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Human Clock (Complete with Hands!)

soulsteal writes: "Some people with too much time on their hands have decided to make a clock of, for, and by the people! Humanclock allows for anyone anywhere to set their time zone and view over 1100 pictures of people posing with one of the 1440 minutes available each day. On the geek side, their server is a Radio Shack 2.4mhz TRS-80 Model 100 portable running a port of Aache and PHP." Something seems extremely suspicious about that server ...

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  1. Down already.... by Marty200 · · Score: 1
    Nuf said..

    MG

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  2. aache by linuxpng · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    are you kidding me? The 'p' is on the otherside of the keyboard.

  3. Netcraft says.... by blogan · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) PHP/4.0.3
    AuthMySQL/2.20 on FreeBSD

    So it looks like they ported BSD to the TRS-80 now...

    1. Re:Netcraft says.... by geekoid · · Score: 2

      there site gives a thanks to Amazing!

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    2. Re:Netcraft says.... by JiffyPop · · Score: 1

      well acording to the site it is actually running the apache server on the native BASIC interpreter. i really doubt that BSD would fit into 32k... much less BSD and Apache.

      this of course all depends on whether or not that is really the server. while it all looks relative possible, i have a doubt or two about how it is attached to the network. in the picture it looks like an RJ45 plug is somehow attached to the side of the box... although they do have what looks like a hub on top of the box (and under the tape deck).

      i'm going to guess that the box really can do the time, but that there is another server for other pages on the site. otherwise i doubt that both i and a friend could both have gotten to the server description page. That poor little tape deck that stores the images would have to be in flames by now.

      oh well, i'll go back to the site in a week when the excitement has died down a bit...

  4. That's what the internet is all about! by byoung · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This harkens back to yesteryear. The FishCam, the internet enabled coffee maker, etc.

    Reminds me of the good old days, when people had way too much time on their hands and creativity was rampant.

    A nice break from the current spam infested and x10.com peddling (oops, I mean, "business friendly") Internet.

    1. Re:That's what the internet is all about! by SilentChris · · Score: 3, Funny
      "Reminds me of the good old days, when people had way too much time on their hands and creativity was rampant."

      Well, when everyone's been fired... :)

    2. Re:That's what the internet is all about! by caferace · · Score: 1
      Uh-oh. It looks like even the Amazing Fishcam has recently taken a dive. Ahem.

      Fishcam

  5. Notes From a Clock Human by sparcv9 · · Score: 2

    Some of my friends and I populate almost the entire 1 AM hour. All the photos in that block were taken at a club here in Pittsbugh, PA. Not all the photos are of us, though -- running around the club and asking random people to let us take their pictures for a website was really fun while drunk, and a surprising number of people agreed. I think we only had one or two people refuse.

    I think my favorite pic of the three of us that did the photo-taking is the one at 1:59 AM, because I'be been told I ended up looking like Gary Oldman in that one.

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    1. Re:Notes From a Clock Human by TMB · · Score: 1

      Which club? I used to know a lot of the Pittsburgh goth scene before they all up and moved away...

      I'm going to have to check in again at 1h just to see if I know anyone. :-)=

      [TMB]

  6. .. by vbrtrmn · · Score: 1

    hey, that's a picture of me, how'd they get me up there?

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  7. Re:Well, it's good, but could be better... by wbav · · Score: 1

    When I said stealing them, I was refering to, having your own webpage with your own code (that may have a better timming alogrithm) from getting the pictures off their server, and ahead of when they want. It would be possible to use php to constantly reload the page to get the next picture, in every timezone to use in your own timing meathod, but you would still be limited to not being able to get a picture ahead of time, so your clock would be even more off than theirs.

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  8. Re:My god.... by 10Ghz · · Score: 1

    Actually, it was the Hindu god Vishnu who said that in Gita (Hindu sacred text). Oppenheimer just quoted that piece of text.

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  9. It thinks It can by Yazheirx · · Score: 1

    Amazingly I actually got to see all three clocks. I think this gives testimate to the power of open source software (apache and PHP)

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  10. Re:Your Cable Information by maX_ · · Score: 1

    Actually it was an Amiga. They used them with Gen Locks or video toasters to overlay the video.

  11. Source Code Joker by BandWagon · · Score: 5, Funny
    Has anyone besides me looked at the source code for the page to find the image names..? Quote:
    Welcome to the source code for this page. Not much here.
    The picture filenames all took a one-way trip to MD5 city to mask their true identity (if that is what you were looking for).

    Since you are here though, we might as well tell you a joke since you took the time to look at the source code and you shouldn't have to close this window empty-handed.

    q: How can you get four suits for a dollar?
    a: Buy a deck of cards.

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    1. Re:Source Code Joker by Raven667 · · Score: 2

      Hello, neighbor. 8^)

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    2. Re:Source Code Joker by Narmi · · Score: 1

      The joke changes every minute.

      q: What country makes you shiver?
      a: Chile

    3. Re:Source Code Joker by geekoid · · Score: 2

      And the joke changes...

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  12. Re:Oh come on, use Netcraft - its FreeBSD not a TS by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2

    You know, when I first read this post, I thought "Wow, thanks for pointing that out, I never would have gotten it..." But, then I realized something. There are a fair number of Slashdotters who *didn't* get it! I find that remarkably unbelieveable... but, perhaps that's just my misplaced faith in the intelligence of the common man rearing it's ugly head...

  13. Re:My god.... by rjs0977 · · Score: 1

    I have become death - destroyer of worlds" -Oppenheimer

    it is actually from the bhagavad gita, a indian poem that is dialogue between arjuna, a prince, and the god, krishna

    and if you wanted to get real picky, it's actually 'I am become death' but who's counting?

  14. Re:Apache ported to Tandy BASIC? by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Read the post. They are running the Aache server, not Apache.

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  15. Re:Poor TRS-80 (Mirror) by mooneyguy · · Score: 1
    Mr. Sketch, either you've been hacked or you're one sick jerk.

    Everyone else: that like was not a mirror.

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  16. It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oh dear lord, some people have *no* sense of humour. This isn't a hoax. Hoaxes are, generally speaking, at least marginally believable. There is usually an attempt on the part of the hoaxers to actually convince others that what they are claiming is true. This, OTOH, is *obviously* a JOKE. I mean, come on... 4 gigs on a tape? The webserver powered on 4 "AA" batteries (double coupon day)? Heck, even tim knew it was a joke: "Something seems extremely suspicious about that server..."! OTOH, at least I can now see just how thick some Slashdotters are...

  17. Well, it's good, but could be better... by wbav · · Score: 1

    As I see it, the pictures seem to take a long time to load, and pitty the fool who opens up a new window from that one.

    It seems that this page uses a meta refresh, which in web circles has it's own considerations. But this could be improved by using php to change the refresh time based on when you load the page and the server clock. Also there could be some improvement, if they would precache the pictures, but as it seems they run them through md5 to keep you from stealing them, I doubt that precaching is possible.

    I do like the nice saying (like at 1:11) and the pictures of Oregon. I come from the Beaver State and love to see pics of downtown. Overall, a good waste of time. Now if only I could make that window stay on top.

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    1. Re:Well, it's good, but could be better... by __aaahtg7394 · · Score: 2

      they can't, really. but they can make it terribly difficult to get the images by naming them cryptically (the md5 sum is a one-way hash of image contents... so trying to guess them is non-trivial). so you could manually visit the site, once a minute, for 24 hours, and save every image that comes up, and rename it locally.

      or you could just take the pictures yourself. that would be my best option.

      ('while true; do wget -r -l0 http://thesite/; sleep 60; done' for 24 hours would also work, with some awk/perl goodness to rename the files, but who really cares that much?)

    2. Re:Well, it's good, but could be better... by Have+Blue · · Score: 2
      but as it seems they run them through md5 to keep you from stealing them
      Can someone explain how a web server can stop me from saving a picture locally? Every browser I have ever used had a client-side "save downloaded data" function.
    3. Re:Well, it's good, but could be better... by sideshow · · Score: 1

      The guy wrote a few comments back that the reason for the MD5 is to keep people from just going through and looking at each picture. He wants you to wait for the actually minute to see the picture.

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    4. Re:Well, it's good, but could be better... by srvivn21 · · Score: 1

      It can't. But it would take you all day of sitting at your computer hitting "reload" at least once a minute (or running a cron job... Hmmm...) to get all the pictures.

    5. Re:Well, it's good, but could be better... by Everlasting+God · · Score: 1

      Yep, they totaly stopped my from stealing pics. Wish there was some, you know, key on the keyboard that could copy the frame buffer into some sort of temporary storage, a 'clipboard' if you will...

    6. Re:Well, it's good, but could be better... by norton_I · · Score: 1

      He actually said that he used to set up the refreshes to happen at the minute rollover, but it generated really high peak traffic from people leaving the window open. So he switched to the 1 minute refresh to spread it out.

      Most UNIX window managers will let you put any window always on top...

  18. Re:Nice by Fjord · · Score: 5, Funny
    Stupid people talking on their mobile phones about things like "honey I left the office and I will be home in half an hour"

    Spoken like an unmarried man.

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  19. Re:From the horses mouth by huskerdoo · · Score: 1

    After about 6 server reboots and one kernel rebuild (thanks Myke) the server seems to be holding steady. I had to go downtown and babysit the server. I kind of felt like a husband helping his wife go though labor. Anyway, I was a bit suprised about all the /. chatter over the "webserver". Good thing I never built an Atari 2600 webserver. (Wanted to, but I didn't have the keypad controllers for i/o, just that damn Star Raiders one).

    If you remember the days of Atari and Vectrex, be sure and check out 2:12pm-2:18pm.

    I'll try and get a FAQ written tomorrow, but in short:
    - the webserver is in fact real, if you want it to be. (isn't this from a movie or something?)
    - the girl at 11:11am is in fact single (and knows what interrupt vector table is).
    - humanclock.com isn't some website with a mega-corporation lurking behind it, it is just created/ran by me.
    - the analog clock should be done this weekend
    - 7:39am is the best / most creative clock photo I've received so far.

    DCG

  20. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by LedZeplin · · Score: 1

    But, I couldn't care less about the human clock the only reason I'm paying any attention to this story is because of the TRS-80.

  21. Re:That Poor Poor Box by malfunct · · Score: 1

    The page does refresh every minute :) Just not "on the minute" like you might expect.

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  22. Re:Mods: by dermotfitz · · Score: 1

    and if they knew what to do they wouldn't have given him points. Asswipe.

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  23. Apache ported to Tandy BASIC? by ibirman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now that is a feat! > We hired a crack team of crafty crack monkeys > that were able to modify the Apache source code > and reduce it down to a 25k text file that runs > under the BASIC interpreter native to the Tandy > TRS-80 Model 100. Those were some smart monkeys. I would love to see that code.

    1. Re:Apache ported to Tandy BASIC? by markus+o'farkus · · Score: 1
      Smart had nothing to do with it--there were just an infinite number of them with teletypes. duh.

      Actually I believe they just scanned the digits of Pi until they found the right program.

    2. Re:Apache ported to Tandy BASIC? by malfunct · · Score: 1

      We need to port this 25k version of apache BACK to unix :)

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    3. Re:Apache ported to Tandy BASIC? by __aaahtg7394 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Smart had nothing to do with it--there were just an infinite number of them with teletypes. duh.

    4. Re:Apache ported to Tandy BASIC? by JiffyPop · · Score: 1

      ummm... then try downloading it. there are two links right after that paragraph.

    5. Re:Apache ported to Tandy BASIC? by bigpat · · Score: 1

      they did post the code... :)

  24. Re:If it's really true.... by Alan · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's dead jim!

    Yegods, the poor thing never had a chance...

  25. Re:TRS-80 (Slightly OT) by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1

    It's been automatic for me since it first came out...it was an old PCWism, wasn't it? (David Tebbutt where are you now when we need you?)

  26. Re:My port of Linux for older machines by donpardo · · Score: 1
    The $ goes in front of string variables.

    $PASSWORD
    $LOGIN

    At least it did in 1977.

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  27. Re:The Tape Recorder is bogus by codepunk · · Score: 2, Informative

    And being a hardware hacker myself I would also insist that you are dead wrong and it is possible. It may be a bogus story but your reasoning is dead wrong.

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  28. Re:I call bullshit by Fishstick · · Score: 2

    err, that wasn't the point

    I was talking about using tapes on trs80 in general, not using z80 assembler on a model 100

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  29. down time by daanger0us · · Score: 1

    downtime of 12 hours to replace AA batteries? Where's he live?? It doesn't take me that long to walk to the corner market.

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  30. Re:Oh come on, use Netcraft - its FreeBSD not a TS by malfunct · · Score: 1

    Um come on and use your brain guys, its NOT a TRS-80. #1 basic source for webserver would not even run (um POOP and PUKE are not keywords in basic) #2 A casette tape connected to one of those would NOT hold 4gb. #3 even if the casette tape did hold 4gb it would take about 3 minutes to load a single 200k jpeg and then got knows how long to output that data to the network. I never thought that the general /.er was smart but guys you are being pathetic here :)

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  31. Verbal clocks.. by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1



    My favorite little utility for AmigaDOS was a thing called MultiClock.. It sat nicely up in Workbench's titlebar, and would annouce the time in English at user-specified intervals. The guy who wrote it recorded a series of sound samples of himself saying different numbers so that he could play them on-the-fly whenever someone requested the time. "The time is" + "Eight" + "Oh" + "Six" + "PM".

    The timing of this article is sort of interesting. We released a verbal clock toolkit on System 26 earlier this morning, featuring the voice of yours truly. Time to start coding.. :)

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  32. hey .... by ReidMaynard · · Score: 2, Funny

    I bet we could overclock the cassette tape recorder .... get higher thruput ....

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  33. Real Human Clock by mr.+phantastik · · Score: 1

    Common, this isn't a true human clock! It's a cheap immitation. A real one consists of a man standing on the street, telling the time with his arms and his...um...pendulum...

  34. Re:ok dammit by thefritob · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually You can lease the 4:20 spot. The current auction is over at ebay. Here's the link.

  35. Your Cable Information by Quizme2000 · · Score: 1

    Most local cable compaines have a channel that displays (in 16 colors) local information: time, garbage pickup, things of that nature along with some really bad music. When I saw it yesterday I saw the "desktop" of Commodore 64 with the Flash Rom and Ram Disk icons and all. Of course it was displaing the current date as 1948, but It still brought back a few memories.

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    1. Re:Your Cable Information by VJMadProfessorZERO · · Score: 1

      I've seen Amiga screens on local channels as well, but the one that I personally saw was the famous C=64, no icons, just a blue screen with the ROM revision info at the top of the screen.

    2. Re:Your Cable Information by VJMadProfessorZERO · · Score: 1

      I know exactly what mean! I saw the same thing once, and on top of it all, I saw the guy typing on the console! I forget what he was working on, but it was funny to see him mispelling and gong back to fix it....Hell, it was just funny to see a C=64 unit being used in broadcasting.....

  36. Drugstore Cowboy by bejasus · · Score: 1

    Why do all the photos look like they are of Portland in its Drugstore Cowboy era? I keep expecting to see Matt Dillon dragging Heather Graham's corpse into an attic with 11:38 written on her T-shirt.

  37. Re:Oh come on, use Netcraft - its FreeBSD not a TS by Kazymyr · · Score: 1

    Frankly, I think FreeBSD may be the frontend only - what sends it on the 'net at large. The backend server may very well be a TRS-80.

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  38. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by jvmatthe · · Score: 1
    Believe it or not, some people seem to think that the new window manager twm-gl is a hoax.

    Whatever.

  39. Re:I call bullshit by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 1

    No, no TRS-80, but I did have a VIC-20 with the tape drive.

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  40. Re:They are leasing the rights to 4:20!!! by Fjord · · Score: 2

    I love the first bid on that auction.

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  41. Re:If it's really true.... by garcia · · Score: 4, Funny

    well at least we don't have to worry about it spreading the worm ;)

  42. Re:way off... by thefritob · · Score: 1

    Yeah, sorry he's got it running here in Portland. So only us west coast freaks can watch it. :)

  43. Just another example... by the+Man+in+Black · · Score: 1
    ...of the ubiquity and portability of UNIX, I think.

    From Netcraft...
    The site www.humanclock.com is running Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) PHP/4.0.3 AuthMySQL/2.20 on FreeBSD.

    No uptime available, though...I blame the Slashdot Effect. :-)

  44. Not only Apache and PHP... by iabervon · · Score: 2

    Server: Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) PHP/4.0.3 AuthMySQL/2.20

    Getting MySQL to fit on a TRS-80 is even more impressive, I think.

  45. Re:I don't believe it!!! by kenh · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Did you look at the source code (and I quote):


    9999 ' subroutine for reading from packet driver
    10000 FD$ = -1
    10010 READ FD$
    10020 PEEK FD$
    10030 POKE FD$
    10040 POOP FD$
    10050 PUKE FD * 7
    10060 IF FD$ = "YUMMYPACKET" THEN 10080
    10070 GOTO 10010
    10080 FILE$ = FD$
    10090 RETURN



    Uhm, are there really poop and puke commands in BASIC?

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  46. Re:I call bullshit by Fishstick · · Score: 2

    Of course, I still have some of my earliest z80 code on cassette somewhere still in my basement (the integrated monitor on my ModelIII died and I never got around to trying to get it fixed while there might have been replacements parts around, now forget it. Man, I never should have donated that model 1 to the library!)

    I think the point is that without a record head, a walkman would be pretty useless for a TRS-80 (unless you already had the data on tape and just wanted read-only).

    Yeah, this is obviously a joke. Part of me was momentarily hopeful that someone had actually hacked a TRS-80 into a http server, though. ;-)

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  47. Re:This should win an award. by i22y · · Score: 1

    The hoax was a PCI card with onboard processors to work on Distributed.net's challenge. The perpetrators of the hoax pulled the plug after some people started actually trying to purchase the product.

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  48. looks like... by ocie · · Score: 3, Funny

    it went down with all hands :)

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  49. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by AugstWest · · Score: 2

    troll? huh?

  50. Re:Do I want to see this? by Coq · · Score: 1

    George Carlin had a joke in his ways to keep people on their toes segment. I think it was "next time someone asks you the time say: 'it's either 6:30 or Mickey's got a hardon!'" since only the minute hand was his hand and everything else was just a black pin.

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  51. Re:ok dammit by smack_attack · · Score: 1

    http://humanclock.ees.com/livefiles/pic-450/aac5da 6776b6954e6adf23eaf31.jpg

  52. Re:I call bullshit by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not only that, "all I/O done through the headphone jack"? Right. Sure.

    (And is the plural of "walkman" walkmans or walkmen?)

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  53. TCP/IP and more by zothorn · · Score: 1

    Another thing, since when did early 80's microcomputers have a TCP/IP stack? This reminds me of the guy that made a WAP browser for a C64. It was connected via serial cable to a linux box that stripped html code and removes pictures, converted it to wap, and sent it over the serial port. Plus... The contents of the website total more than the 32k of ram can handle. AFAIK random seeks on any tape drives do not do very well.

  54. doubting thomases by dutky · · Score: 2
    The TRS-80 web-server isn't quite as much of a joke as the authors' indended:

    First, there is a Zilog Z80 variant that is marketed as a web server on a chip. Of course, the ez80190 runs at 50MHz and can address up to 16MB of memory, a far cry from the old Z80-A or 8080. (the chip itself only appears to have 8KB of SRAM, however, which is pretty similar to a TRS-80 or yore)

    Second, the storage capacity of audio cassette tapes should not be underestimated. We can reasonably espect that the maximum storage density of an audio cassette is similar to the maximum bandwidth of vioce telephone lines (audio cassettes probably have a higher storage density, in fact, because the vioce telephone line bandwith is artificially limited in order to filter out varous kinds of noise). If we could record at 32Kbaud we would be able to store 10MB (that's Mega BYTES) on one side of a 90 minute tape.

    Looked at another way, a cassette tape can store about the same amount of information as your average CD (they store about the same amount of music, and cassette tapes are actually better fidelity that audio CDs, they just degrade faster and don't reproduce well on consumer grade equipment), which means that we could actually expect to get something more like 600MB-800MB if we had really good recording and playback equipment. Not too shaby.

    Of course, with a normal tape player we would have an average seek time of over 20 minutes, but you have to make some compromises for this level of geekiness. I can think of a few ways to decrease the seek time, but we are still talking about something on the order of minutes rather than a reasonable value in the range of seconds.

    1. Re:doubting thomases by mj01nir · · Score: 1

      The TRS-80 web-server isn't quite as much of a joke as the authors' indended:

      First, there is a Zilog Z80 variant that is marketed as a web server on a chip . Of course, the ez80190 runs at 50MHz and can address up to 16MB of memory, a far cry from the old Z80-A or 8080. (the chip itself only appears to have 8KB of SRAM, however, which is pretty similar to a TRS-80 or yore)

      Bah. If you want to talk about minimalist web servers, setup Minix i86 on an original IBM 5150. I did. I works. For one person at a time :^)

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  55. Re:Site mirror with Pics .. - updated, corrected by cgenman · · Score: 1

    Make that http://www.geocities.com/satsuke1/webserver.html geocites.com seems to be a cybersquatter group.

  56. To see the site use Google's web-cache at: by wo1verin3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:j7H61q2E32M:w ww.humanclock.com/+&hl=en

  57. This sounds very cool by kiwimate · · Score: 1

    Wish I could get to the site to check it out.

    It strikes me, however, that they don't need to represent 1440 minutes in a day; a clock is a 12-hour representation, with signatures for AM and PM, so you only need 720. Yes, I admit, I'm going purely by the writeup; that's because a TRS-80 doesn't handle the /. effect very well...

  58. Re:Poor TRS-80 (Mirror) by Don+Negro · · Score: 1

    nice try...

    I'm faster than your redirect, goatse.cx boy.

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  59. joke by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    Q: How long does it take to slashdot a Radio Shack 2.4mhz TRS-80 Model 100 portable running a port of Apache and PHP?

    A: I don't know! I can't get to Humanclock to set my watch!

    rimshot

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  60. They are leasing the rights to 4:20!!! by pgpckt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't believe this. For those of you who can't access the page because the poor TRS-80 couldn't handle it, these guys are leasing the rights to 4:20 am/pm! For the current bid price of $66, you can have your picture come up when it turns 4:20. See the auction at ebay

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    1. Re:They are leasing the rights to 4:20!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      by obscure do you mean "I'm calling attention to the fact that I listen to a bad band"?

    2. Re:They are leasing the rights to 4:20!!! by pgpckt · · Score: 1

      Too obscure...what are you talking about?

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    3. Re:They are leasing the rights to 4:20!!! by room101 · · Score: 1

      Dude! Front242!! rocks forever!! Old-school-hard-core!

      --
      room101 -- how much can you stand before they break you?
      (they always break you eventually)
    4. Re:They are leasing the rights to 4:20!!! by glassware · · Score: 1
      ... What about 2:42?

      Or am I too obscure?

    5. Re:They are leasing the rights to 4:20!!! by jazmataz23 · · Score: 1
      that guy's the high bidder all right.

      jaz

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  61. Great New Source for UTC! by ayden · · Score: 1

    If we could synchronize the Human Hand clock via NTP and set it to display UTC, I could use it to set the system BIOS time when I build new Linux boxes.

    --
    "I'm The Bounty Bear. I will find him anywhere. I'm searching."
  62. This should win an award. by scott1853 · · Score: 2

    Slashdot should start an annual geek hoax award. Let people vote on whether or not they consider certain websites/products to be hoaxes or not. The winner is the one that fools the largest percentage.

    Does anybody remember some story on here about some PCI card that turned out to be a hoax?

    1. Re:This should win an award. by GweeDo · · Score: 1

      I am curious why this should win an award? It works (when the server responds atleast).

    2. Re:This should win an award. by scott1853 · · Score: 1

      Thanks, couldn't for the life of me remember what is was that they claimed the card could do.

  63. Re:My port of Linux for older machines by beebware · · Score: 1

    In every version of BASIC I've used (BBC Basic, MS Basic, ARM Basic, Spectrum Basic, RM Basic etc), string variables have the dollars at the end.

  64. Re:My port of Linux for older machines by WWWWolf · · Score: 2
    You don't notice this until you actually try: after a few years of Perl programming, it's hard to put those dollar signs at the end, and even harder to leave off the semi-colons. :-(

    ...and it's even harder to use two-letter variable names.

    I assume you meat U$ and PW$ (or DIM PW$,7 - see getpwnam(3) man page!)... not lame long names like LOGIN$ and PASSWORD$, those weren't there until DOS and QBasic.

    Well, I suppose I will use cc64 and raw 6502 assembler for my microcomputing needs. Commodore basic was one of the most hideous programming environments Microsoft has ever produced =)

  65. News from the AP wire by kleenx · · Score: 1

    Headline:
    2 People Narrowly Escape burning house, cause under investigation

    Portland, OR - In what officials thought at first to be arson, 2 young men narrowly escaped as they found their computer on fire.

    The 2 men (who wish to remain nameless) were sitting at home, setting up their ebay auction for "4:20" leasing when they smelt something funny. John Doe 1 went to investigate and found an inferno where his computer once was.

    In a brave attempt to save the Tandy TRS-80, setup as the webserver for "humanclock.com", the 2 men attempted to douse the fires with their extreme amounts of spare time. This only agrivated the fire and soon after the 2 escaped

    An investigation has revieled that the tape reel, originally meant for 50mb of data, was re-worked to fit almost 4gb. This combined with unexplainable phenominon called the "slashdot effect" caused the tape drive to heat up massivily. At the same time, the overclocked 2.4Mhz (overclocked 200%), running at 4.8Mhz, caused a fire to break loose in the computer's body itself.

    John Doe 2 was quoted at the scene saying "damn, i think we just got slashdot raped" while Mr Doe 1 added "we just didnt expect that we'd make it onto slashdot".

    Charges have been brought upon Radio Shack/Tandy for "not warning about the risks of overclocking using TRS hardware" and on the entire slashdot community for "causing a mass DOS overload"

    More breaking news to come as it happens

  66. Re:way off... by malfunct · · Score: 1

    There is a timezone bug in the code. The creator gives you a link to reset the timezone correctly which will fix the time you see.

    --

    "You can now flame me, I am full of love,"

  67. Re:congealed geek froth by AugstWest · · Score: 4, Funny

    oh god, thinkgeek is going to pack it into corn syrup and add caffeine by the end of the week....

  68. Web Server Description by DaneelGiskard · · Score: 2

    Here is the Web Server Description: *click* (unslashdotted google archive :))

    Ah yes, and it is a joke for everyone who did not get it the first time :))

  69. OK, I'll bite... by Ctrl-Alt-Del · · Score: 2, Funny

    > i have two if they need a spare!

    Cool, we could set up a Beowulf cluster...

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    "Life is like a sewer - what you get out of it depends on what you put into it" - Tom Lehrer
  70. I think my human clock is broken... by plexxer · · Score: 5, Funny

    All I get is a picture of a guy holding up a sign that says 12:00, then he takes it away, then he holds it back up again, then he takes it away again, then he...

    --
    The government's moral compass is controlled by GPS.
    In times of crises, they alter it to suit their needs.
    1. Re:I think my human clock is broken... by wbav · · Score: 1

      You know, you can fix that with a little masking tape.

      --

      =================
      Unix is very user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are.
  71. I dont know if I want to see this... by Ratteau · · Score: 1


    Thanks to the /. affect, I cant see how things are displayed.... does anybody really want to know how the digital clock is going to display 1:11?

    1. Re:I dont know if I want to see this... by Havokmon · · Score: 1

      There's no nudity allowed, so it'd have to be 1:01.

      --
      "I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
  72. Re:What a bunch of idiots.. [SLASHDOT] by davey23sol · · Score: 1

    You're the fucking idiot. Why don't you read before you post?

    --


    "Yes.. no matter what the culture, folk dancing is stupid." -MST3K
  73. Why Nobody Refers to CowboyNeal? by robbyjo · · Score: 1

    I was quite surprised why people doesn't seem to recommend CowboyNeal to assume a new human-clock hire. You guys have asked him to be a 75Hz monitor in the recent poll. Probably it would be nice to hear him scream on the roof: "Bong... it's four o'clock a.m."

    Just a little thought... maybe Slashdot should ask this question in the next poll. :-)

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  74. Only if it uses Engergizer Batteries! by farrellj · · Score: 1

    Then it keep going, and going and going and going...until you put them in backwards...then it keeps cumming and cumming and cumming...

    ttyl
    Farrell

    --
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  75. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2

    Yes... yes, precisely... :)

  76. Source? by Necroman · · Score: 1

    I am guessing a lot of you have tried to see the source code for the main page.. and maybe... just maybe find where all the pictures were hidden, so you could look at all of em at one. Well. Go for it. Look.

    Welcome to the source code for this page. Not much here.The picture filenames all took a one-way trip to MD5 city to mask their true identity (if that is what you were looking for)..... And some more to it too.. go look for yourself.

    --
    Its not what it is, its something else.
  77. Bill's Last Fling by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder if it's significant to the joke in some way that the ROM of the Tandy Model 100 is reputed to be the last code that Bill Gates actually wrote himself?

  78. Martianclock.com coming REAL SOON by mfarah · · Score: 5, Funny
    Mr. Xxxx, the famous martian, tells me to relay this bit of information:

    We are inspired by this human clock thing, and will implement a clone ourselves.

    Look for martianclock.com, featuring pictures for all 24 hours and 37 minutes using photographs of live martians.

    Unlike humanclock.com, and due to the long distances involved, we'll be using a cluster of Commodore 64 and Atari 800XL machines to handle the web server(s).

    --
    "Trust me - I know what I'm doing."
    - Sledge Hammer
    1. Re:Martianclock.com coming REAL SOON by tbone1 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Unlike humanclock.com, and due to the long distances involved, we'll be using a cluster of Commodore 64 and Atari 800XL machines to handle the web server(s).

      Too bad; I know where you can get a Beowulf cluster of Timex Sinclairs dirt cheap ...

      --

      The Independent: Reverend Spooner Arrested in Friar Tuck Incident - ISIHAC, Historical Headlines
    2. Re:Martianclock.com coming REAL SOON by Ack_OZ · · Score: 1

      hey! get your Xs right... Marvin doesn't even fit into Xxxx

  79. Re:That Poor Poor Box by suwain_2 · · Score: 1
    I know, they're going to need a Quad Xeon or something just to support me... I'm thinking that it'd be real cool to whip up a script to refresh the page every minute... Of course, I'd feel *real* bad doing this on a 2.4 MHz computer... Especially seeing that I'm thinking of buying a computer that's 1,000 times faster than this. (Dual 1.2 GHz)

    Cool site, really cool hardware, but I don't think the hardware will last long, especially after we link to it...

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  80. congealed geek froth by rjs0977 · · Score: 1

    congealed geek froth...the next new thing from mcdonalds...or the military's new weapon?

  81. Seek times Re:doubting thomases by mitheral · · Score: 1

    The human clock is a special data case because the data isn't randomly read. If you record the data correctly (IE: the time images in seqential order) you would only need to seek once per day. You could reduce that to once a week, month or year by repeating the storage of a day's worth of time display seven, thirty, or three hundred and sixty five times.

    1. Re:Seek times Re:doubting thomases by topham · · Score: 2

      Better yet, use a looping tape. So, the real question is, if you encoded the information onto a fibre-optic line, how long would the line have to be to hold enough data in-transit that youwould need no other storage medium. And, would all the data go past fast enough that you could display a new image every minute (or even second), or, would you have to interleve the data. Or, spread it out...

  82. Re:Poor TRS-80 (Mirror) by Fjord · · Score: 2

    Did anyone else notcie that goatse.cx now has a warning. That wasn't there on the weekend.

    --
    -no broken link
  83. Do I want to see this? by Tim+Macinta · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's Slashdotted right now, so I guess I'll have to check back later... I'm just hoping they didn't get creative in using certain appendages for the second hand.

    1. Re:Do I want to see this? by dermotfitz · · Score: 1

      funny? yeah that's a frickin blast.

      --

      How perfectly goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure. - Charles Crumb
  84. What about a slashbox? by Alternity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's it... I want a humanclock slashbox :o)

    --


    "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear"
  85. truth is stranger than fiction! by twitter · · Score: 2
    No way! POOP and PUKE were Tany embrace extentions. They thought they would rule the BASIC world with their superior technology. VB would run databases, email, ecomerce and webservers!

    See, they really knew what they were doing but those spoilsports in Redmond, M$, took over the world with their inferior version of BASIC that they bundled with the OS. It has caused untold missery across the world. Millions of Dollars have been lost, hundreds of millions of man hours wasted trying to fix things. It would all be OK if only they had POOP and PUKE.

    Timex Sinclair also had superior IT, and my site uses a 1600, much expanded. It takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:truth is stranger than fiction! by malfunct · · Score: 1

      The TRS-80 portable ran a version of Microsoft basic written by Bill G. himself. In fact the last actual code that he wrote for production.

      --

      "You can now flame me, I am full of love,"

  86. god bless the rts-80 m100!!! by jpellino · · Score: 2, Funny

    i have two if they need a spare!

    --
    "Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
  87. I don't believe it!!! by Anonu · · Score: 2, Funny

    WOW, can you really do that?!?! How many users can it support during a certain time frame?
    I gotta make myself one of those!
    Wonder if anybody has any links about incredible web servers like this one?!?

    --
    SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped)
    1. Re:I don't believe it!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's quite possible really, anything with an RS232 port can act as a webserver, providing it has at least enough ram for it.

      Mind it, it won't be fast, or all that good, but it's possible.

    2. Re:I don't believe it!!! by gorilla · · Score: 2

      I'm not familiar with the TRS implementation, however no BASIC I've seen has POOP or PUKE. Also, POKE requires 2 paramaters, the memory address and the value to place in that memory address, both of which should be integers, not strings, and PEEK is a function, which should be assigned to a variable, eg RES%=PEEK(ADDR%).

  88. Re:Site mirror with Pics .. - updated by satsuke · · Score: 1

    Make that http://www.geocites.com/satsuke1/webserver.html - all previous comments still apply

  89. Re:That Poor Poor Box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    And now, instead of:
    /.'ed

    it will forever be known as:
    /!'ed

  90. Plural of Walkman by hawkestein · · Score: 1

    (And is the plural of "walkman" walkmans or walkmen?)

    That very question is answered in "The Language Instinct" by Steven Pinker. If I recall correctly, the official plural according to Sony is "Walkman Personal Stereos".

    --
    -- Will quantum computers run imaginary-time operating systems?
  91. Re:My port of Linux for older machines by lostguy · · Score: 1

    You have a great future as a beat poet. ;>

  92. oh yeah by gnurd · · Score: 1

    thats gonna take a slashdotting real well.

    --
    "i was saying gnu-rd"
  93. My god.... by soulsteal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...what have I done?

    "I have become death - destroyer of worlds" -Oppenheimer

    That brave little TRS-80 never had a chance....

    1. Re:My god.... by soulsteal · · Score: 2

      I know it's from the Bhagavad Gita but I felt more like Oppenheimer after the release of the nukes against Japan. Except in this case, it was a froth of geeks congealed into the "Slashdot Effect" sent against a poor PHP clock.

  94. Where the heck is Porltand? by jmp · · Score: 1

    First up, let me say I think this is brilliant, and it's been running on my desktop all day. This is obviously a labour of love, and the creator of the site is to be congratulated for his hard work and creativity.

    Many of the pictures were taken in and around Portland, Oregon. Looks like a lovely place, inhabited by charming people.

    Reading the captions, I see that many of the other pictures were taken in nearby "Porltand, Oregon". Can't find that one on the map.

    --
    jmp
  95. Re:way off... by suwain_2 · · Score: 1

    Maybe the batteries are running low again...? ;)

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  96. Re:ok dammit by Havokmon · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Umm. Just change your timezone.

    * Havokmon slaps smack_attack with a tuna.

    --
    "I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
  97. Re:ok dammit by smack_attack · · Score: 1

    HA!

  98. A Full Hour Of /.'ing, and it still works! by Trinity-Infinity · · Score: 1

    I was surprised to see the brave 'lil webserver still churning out pages an hour after this story was posted. My cue-crap didn't last an hour of use, and that was free =/

  99. Re:Nice by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

    It is a waste of bandwidth ... So what?

    Indeed, most of the Universe is just a tremendous waste of time, space, matter and energy. Somehow I think that's the way God meant it to be.

    --
    try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
  100. Putting the "BS" in "BSD" by Rimbo · · Score: 2

    I'd be amazed if anyone actually believed that it was a TRS-80. Those things didn't have the RAM to even hold a single JPG image, much less serve them from a tape cassette player!

    But still...there's one born every minute...

    1. Re:Putting the "BS" in "BSD" by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 2, Funny
      "Barnum was wrong - it's more like every 30 seconds"

      -Somebody

    2. Re:Putting the "BS" in "BSD" by shogun · · Score: 1

      Well it wouldn't need all that much RAM to serve images no matter how big they are, it only needs to pipe them out on the network, not keep the entire images in memory locally.. Assuming of course you can work out some way to get TCP/IP onto that things and a useful network interface....

  101. Re:I call bullshit by sommere · · Score: 2, Informative
    Adapting a Walkman for I/O when 99% of walkman don't have a record head?

    you obvously didn't have a trs-80... I had one, and I used a audio tape to save my basic programs. Yeah, its a joke, you can't save 4GB on an audio cassette, but using a cassette tape for a TRS-80 is quite real.

  102. Re:4:20 by TheMidget · · Score: 1

    Any bets about for how much it will sell for the two last weeks of next April...?

  103. Re:That Poor Poor Box by moonboy · · Score: 2, Offtopic



    The term "Slashdot Effect" is so passe, so...nineties.
    Now "Slashdot-Gangbang"...much better!

    All in favor??

    --

    Co-founder and designer at Music Nearby: http://musicnearby.com
  104. Isn't this ironic... by Old+Wolf · · Score: 2

    (110) Connection timed out

  105. but I shoulda clicked the link before I tried it. by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

    ignore me. :)

  106. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Worst... Time... Ever!

  107. php home again. by bigNuns · · Score: 1

    wasnt PHP originally written for the TRS-80 and its just ported to linux? right?

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    .................... ...mmm farm fresh...
  108. Re:Nice by Shotgun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Reminds me of some sage advice once imparted unto me that many here can benefit from.

    Do not go straight home from work for the first week of marriage. Hang out, go to a park for an hour, park and read a book, do anything, but do not go straight home to your new wife. If you go straight home, she will expect it to be that way for the rest of the marriage.

    Trust me on this one.

    Yes, this may seem sexist, but I don't know any guys who flip when their spouse shows up at 6:05 instead of 6.

    --
    Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
    Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
  109. Come on, this is FREEBSD... don't you check this? by phoenix_orb · · Score: 1

    Have you checked netcraft? This site scans sites and tells you what there are running and uptime and a whole lot more. It is very helpful in my line of work. Here is the link below. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off&mo de_w=on&site=www.humanclock.com&submit=Examine

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    Blah Blah Blah.
  110. Re:Oh come on, use Netcraft - its FreeBSD not a TS by thufir · · Score: 1

    Take a look at the basic source code that he put up as the source of the apache port. It is kinda funny; even if it doesn't make you laugh it will make you realize its a joke.

  111. always nice to know . . . by fetta · · Score: 1

    that there are people with more time on their hands than I.

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    ** The opinions expressed here are my own, and do not reflect those of my employers - past, present, or future**
  112. TRS-80 (Slightly OT) by Seanasy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is just me or does anyone else here read "TRS-80" as "Trash Eighty?" It's just automatic for me now.

    1. Re:TRS-80 (Slightly OT) by CajunArson · · Score: 1

      Yeah TRS == trash :)
      I should know, I had a CoCo II (16kb wow!) and later a CoCo III (128KB... I'll never need more than that!)

      However they did have one thing that modern computer makers are still striving for.... instant on capability!

      --
      AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
  113. Check out the HTML source... by srvivn21 · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    Oh... You can't? Here is the funny part:

    Welcome to the source code for this page. Not much here. The picture filenames all took a one-way trip to MD5 city to mask their true identity (if that is what you were looking for).

    Since you are here though, we might as well tell you a joke since you took the time to look at the source code and you shouldn't have to close this window empty-handed.

    q: What clothes does a house wear?
    a: Address.

  114. From the horses mouth by huskerdoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, it looks like it only took three weeks from putting the site up until it got Slashdotted. I've been building the site and taking pictures for the last two months. I haven't had time to write a FAQ for the site yet. But the reason the picture filenames are MD5 hashes is so you can't easily see other times. A lot of people want to just be able to clickity click their way through the entire set of pictures as if it were a p0rn site...and I didn't want that. If you want to see a certain time, you have to wait.

    There are some interesting photos on the site. Jimi Hendrix's grave is at 8:15pm, Richard Buckner is at 8:14pm, and there is an entire hours worth of pictures from 1am - 2am that were taken at a Goth party in Pittsburgh. (thanks D33!)

    Now I gotta go downtown and reboot the server... (on -> off -> on)

    1. Re:From the horses mouth by yolfer · · Score: 1

      oh man! I wanna see the single girl that comes at 11:11am. I'm gonna be in a meeting at 11 tomorrow. :(

  115. Looks Bogus... but funny by KMitchell · · Score: 1
    They list the source code for their 25k BASIC Apache server and I don't remember either the "POOP" or "PUKE" tokens in BASIC...

    I really do like their storage system though :)

  116. humanclock.com slashbox by jjsjeff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is there someway we could also add a humanclock slashbox? You know I need that right below my 'Oblique Strategy' box.

    -Jeff

  117. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 1

    Right. So we're all supposed to sit around and smirk at each other in our "yes, we get it, we see through it" superiority? Hell fucking NO!

    It would have been much funnier (and/or entertaining) if it'd at least been the TINIEST bit plausible.

    They went to at least a little time and trouble, why not make it at least a little believable?

    I think I'll drag the Vic-20 out of the garage, run some Cat5 behind it, hook it to the five old walkmen I have kicking around, stick a cartridge in the cartridge slot, and claim it's a webserver. Then I'll submit it to /. No, wait, that's utterly ridiculous and everyone would flame me for thinking anyone would believe it. Like hell...

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  118. Now we just need the naked clock... by Uttles · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine, playboy-esque models posing to the time of day, ticking along on your desktop...
    It'd be almost like the Naked News

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    ~ now you know
    1. Re:Now we just need the naked clock... by alexburke · · Score: 2

      Now we just need the naked clock...

      As the old adage goes, be careful what you wish for -- you just might get it...

  119. Re:I call bullshit by suwain_2 · · Score: 1

    Everyone says "Walkmans", and I believe that may be correct. However, "Walkmen" does sound far better.

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  120. The server by j7953 · · Score: 1

    "On Tuesday the server went down for about 12 hours because the AA batteries in it died and I had to go out and buy new ones."

    Well, with fresh batteries, the server will certainly be able to handle the /. effect.

    --
    Sig (appended to the end of comments I post, 54 chars)
  121. My port of Linux for older machines by idistrust · · Score: 3, Funny
    10 PRINT "LINUX 2.4.7-OLD"
    20 PRINT "LOGIN: "
    30 INPUT LOGIN$
    40 PRINT "PASSWORD: "
    50 INPUT PASSWORD$
    60 GOTO 10

    You don't notice this until you actually try: after a few years of Perl programming, it's hard to put those dollar signs at the end, and even harder to leave off the semi-colons. :-(

    Mike

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    --Ask a silly person, get a silly answer.

    1. Re:My port of Linux for older machines by Puk · · Score: 2

      Heheh. Indeed. I've been so Perl-ized that I even looked at their code to remind me how strings were done in BASIC again, and I still managed to get it wrong.

      And as that other guy pointed out, I'm a dumbass. That program really does (again, assuming it works) perform the function of a httpd server, so I shouldn't make fun of that. But it's no more a port of apache than linux is a port of MS-DOS. Still very cool, though.

      -Puk

    2. Re:My port of Linux for older machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      youre absolutely right
      punctuation has no place in programming
      all those semicolons just get in the way
      stupid delineation of logical thought
      while were at it we shouldnt end sentences with periods
      just use a linebreak its easier to type that way
      heres a section of my up and coming scripting language called fucktradition
      ft for short

      print please log in
      print username
      get username
      print password
      get password
      crypt is encrypt password
      realpasswd is getpasswd username
      if crypt is realpasswd
      jump success
      else
      jump failure
      endif
      see its a lot easier to understand that way
      none of that pesky punctuation getting in the way
      its going to be the next big thing
    3. Re:My port of Linux for older machines by donpardo · · Score: 1

      Crap. My bad.

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      Nothing to see here. Move along.
  122. Re:That Poor Poor Box by Joe+Jordan · · Score: 1

    The poor bastard never stood a chance :(

  123. Site mirror with Pics .. by satsuke · · Score: 1

    Just a note .. I've posted a mirror of just the opening page @ http://www.geocities.com/satsuke1

    Satsuke

    Solaris 8 user since - oh wait

  124. Re:I call bullshit by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

    "Walkmans". It's a headless noun.

  125. Funny source by MattHawk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Take a look at the page source on one of the pages with a clock picture on it - The web programmer who put the site together was having a little fun (The joke changes every time the page reloads) :)

  126. Re:I call bullshit by Hadean · · Score: 1

    Notice the big foot icon?

    "It's funny. Laugh."

    'Haw Haw' and all that.

  127. Re:What's the deal with 4:20? by malfunct · · Score: 1
    420 is the police radio code for a narcotics infraction (if I remember right)

    Also april 20th is hitlers birthday which is also a famous 4 20.

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    "You can now flame me, I am full of love,"

  128. Re:If it's really true.... by hazehead · · Score: 1

    It's not... the Cat5 cable is taped to the port.

  129. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2
    "I think I'll drag the Vic-20 out of the garage, run some Cat5 behind it, hook it to the five old walkmen I have kicking around, stick a cartridge in the cartridge slot, and claim it's a webserver. Then I'll submit it to /. No, wait, that's utterly ridiculous and everyone would flame me for thinking anyone would believe it. Like hell..."

    Umm... the fact that they claim the webserver is running off a TRS-80 is a total sidebar to the story. The original story, if you notice by the title of the posting, and most of the content, was about the Human Clock they're hosting. Try to read things a little closer next time, m'kay?

  130. Re:That Poor Poor Box by Havokmon · · Score: 1
    You mean they don't have a couple speaker wires attached to the battery terminal's, spliced into a power supply, that's just sitting open?

    What kind of a hack is that?

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  131. back up by Teflon+Coating · · Score: 1

    the website is now back up, i'm guessing it will take 10 minutes of punishment and crash again

  132. hahaha by Bandman · · Score: 1

    wow. 0 of 4 comments, and the server is down. Whoops.
    The poor people probably didn't even know that they had been submitted to /.
    Sad sad sad
    User Friendly has a consolation badge. Maybe /. should have the same?

  133. ok dammit by smack_attack · · Score: 2

    please don't /. the hell out of the site before 4:20, I kinda want to see that.

  134. Re:That Poor Poor Box by pi_3 · · Score: 1

    i second that notion ;) "Do or do not, there is no try." - Yoda

  135. Re:Site mirror with Pics .. INCOMPLETE! by Bitmanhome · · Score: 1
    Maybe you should finish the site before you announce it .. And then, just maybe, you might want to post the correct URL, but only if you actually want visitors.

    Any way, the link is http://www.geocities.com/satsuke1/webserver.html, if he ever gets it working.

    -B

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  136. Re:What's the deal with 4:20? by Old+Wolf · · Score: 1

    It's a codeword for Kevin Mitnick, or something like that.

  137. Re:That Poor Poor Box by Omerna · · Score: 2

    So my calculator uses as much power as his server... ouch

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  138. If it's really true.... by DESADE · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder how a TRS-80 is going to handle the Slashdot effect...

    1. Re:If it's really true.... by austad · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hrm, I think the tape player ate the PHP tape. The site seems to be down.

      Time to pull it out and wind it with a pencil.

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    2. Re:If it's really true.... by PaxTech · · Score: 4, Funny

      Answer : Not well.

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    3. Re:If it's really true.... by rpi · · Score: 1

      Shure, must be a very eficient TRS-80.

      A telnet to port 100 shows
      +OK POP3 virtual-host.amz.com v7.59 server ready

      Gezz, they are doing virtual hosting on that machine too? (NOT!)

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    4. Re:If it's really true.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Answer : Not well.

      The blind and stupid must be out today, how the hell did this get +1 informative?

  139. The Tape Recorder is bogus by Joe_NoOne · · Score: 1

    Ok, a walkman works by mechanical means to rewind/fastforward, and a 32K machine can't store all the pictures. No way to "wire" a walkman to receive a signal to rewind or fast forward, so it's obviously bogus (sorry - had to state the obvious).

  140. That's Fair by pokrefke · · Score: 1

    Slashdotting a site running off a TRS-80. Do you steal candy from kids too?

  141. I call bullshit by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 5, Informative
    4 gigs of data on a cassette tape? Adapting a Walkman for I/O when 99% of walkman don't have a record head? And oh, oh, this is the best part:

    9999 ' subroutine for reading from packet driver
    10000 FD$ = -1
    10010 READ FD$
    10020 PEEK FD$
    10030 POKE FD$
    10040 POOP FD$
    10050 PUKE FD * 7
    10060 IF FD$ = "YUMMYPACKET" THEN 10080

    Hoax. Right up there with the potato server.
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    1. Re:I call bullshit by RESPAWN · · Score: 2

      You mean the Spud Server wasn't real!?

      Next you're going to tell me that computers can't really date and that it really isn't this easy to hack a computer!

      Now I'm beginning to wonder if even Project E.U.N.U.C.H. is true.

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      If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.

  142. Imagine... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1

    I can see the pr0n sites catching on to this ... something like www.nudeclock.com or some other adult oriented site. They would probably charge by the hour, too!

  143. "Port of Apache" by Puk · · Score: 2

    Assuming it does work (which it looks like it might), calling that a port of apache is like calling INPUT $NAME: PRINT "HELLO "+$NAME a port of MS Word for my Apple II. Sure, it prints some stuff out... Configurable stuff, at that... But...

    That site is great -- funny as hell.

    -Puk

    p.s. Sorry if my BASIC is rusty -- it has been like 15 years.

  144. Oh come on, use Netcraft - its FreeBSD not a TSR-8 by lordpixel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slashdot comment wrapping may break this URL:

    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off& mo de_w=on&site=www.humanclock.com&submit=Examine

    Besides, the webserver page claims all the data for the images is stored on a TDK cassette tape. They say "we estimate we can get 4gb on the tape before we have to turn it over".

    Its a joke guys. A funny one, but a joke ;)

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    A little bigger on the inside than out

  145. Nice by friday2k · · Score: 2

    Why not? It is a nice example of people coming together, making some funny pictures out of real life and go and make them a clock. I don't care if this is "too much time on your hands production", but I like it. It is a waste of bandwidth ... So what? Stupid people talking on their mobile phones about things like "honey I left the office and I will be home in half an hour" and jamming up the capacity of the mobile phone cells during rush hour are wasting bandwidth, too ...

  146. That Poor Poor Box by jgaynor · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the site:

    On Tuesday the server went down for about 12 hours because the AA batteries in it died and I had to go out and buy new ones.

    And you think this thing can stand up to the usual slashdot-gangbang? Novel idea but you'd better invest in some real hardware if you're gonna put up Geeky cool content like this!

    1. Re:That Poor Poor Box by spudnic · · Score: 1

      They must have had a power outage:

      The webserver is powered by a 6 volt TRS-80 AC Adaptor (CAT NO. 26-3804). We take our web hosting very seriously at humanclock.com, therefore we have installed 4 "AA" batteries in the webserver in case of power failure. Whereas some battery backup systems last for only 20 minutes and cost hundreds of dollars, our power backup solution lasts for 20 hours and costs $2.49, (due to it being double coupon Tuesday).

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  147. It has to be a TRS-80 by Kagato · · Score: 1

    It has to be a TRS-80, it took a full 5 seconds before it was slashdotted. Feel the power!

    1. Re:It has to be a TRS-80 by LocalYokel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unless they were overclocking it, the TRS-80 isn't fast enough to crash in anything less than seven seconds. =)

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  148. listen... by skotte · · Score: 1
    I've used pieces of this technology. (no, not that exact tape drive, nor that exact program..) the TRS-80 takes several minutes just to save a fFile. it takes a ridiculous amount of time to access a tape. so you're telling me it's gonna serve up web pages like it were sitting across the room on an AMD? i dont think so.

    and next yer gonna tell me these genii rebuilt a walkman, andwired it into an entirely alien configuration?

    congratulations to those that guessed right. it's a joke. probably the most refreshing joke i've seen in a long, long time.

  149. That's nothing... by nougatmachine · · Score: 1

    I'm working on a website powered by ten hamsters running on excercise wheels. This generates enough power to use my old Commodore 64 to host my upcoming web site. I wonder how they will handle the Slashdot effect?

  150. How they made it... by Anonu · · Score: 4, Funny
    For people who came after the /. effect, here is the text of how they made their server:

    With names like Western Family, Realistic, Tandy and TDK; humanclock.com's middle-management attempts to cut every corner possible when it comes to industrial-strength webhosting. Many web hosting companies use expensive servers with complex software for their web operations. Our engineering staff rewrote the popular Apache webserver software to run on an 18 year-old portable computer with 32k of memory.

    Humanclock.com runs on a Radio Shack 2.4mhz TRS-80 Model 100 portable computer, using a stripped-down version of the Apache webserver software (version 100-BASIC.12 beta). The graphic files are stored on magnetic tape accessed via a modified Radio Shack personal cassette player (CAT NO. 14-1215). The webserver is powered by a 6 volt TRS-80 AC Adaptor (CAT NO. 26-3804). We take our web hosting very seriously at humanclock.com, therefore we have installed 4 "AA" batteries in the webserver in case of power failure. Whereas some battery backup systems last for only 20 minutes and cost hundreds of dollars, our power backup solution lasts for 20 hours and costs $2.49, (due to it being double coupon Tuesday). In the case of power outage however, it takes our webserver about one second to come back online, something that would take a common UNIX/NT system over two minutes.

    Apache software in action We hired a crack team of crafty crack monkeys that were able to modify the Apache source code and reduce it down to a 25k text file that runs under the BASIC interpreter native to the Tandy TRS-80 Model 100. Those were some smart monkeys. Our engineering department was able to rewire this ordinary personal cassette player (not to be confused with a "walkman"), to handle the vast storage needs that humanclock.com requires.

    All I/O is performed through the headphone jack. The storage media consists of a single TDK type I cassette tape. The "Rigid-Construction cassette mechanism" gave our IT deparment an overwhelming sense that it was 65 cents well spent. We estimate that roughtly 4 gigabytes of data can be stored before we have to turn over the cassette and record over the side labeled "Kick ass Toto mix tape".

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  151. way off... by greysky · · Score: 1

    The time it gave me was off by about 6 hours and 15 minutes. Cute, though.

  152. are you insane? by dermotfitz · · Score: 1

    It is handling the /. effect miraculously well. I've seen sites die much worse deaths than this. It's as slow as my 14.4 connection of 5 years ago. But it is still working.

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  153. Re:Poor TRS-80 (Mirror) by jimmcq · · Score: 1
    Did anyone else notcie that goatse.cx now has a warning. That wasn't there on the weekend.


    So... ummmm... how many times a day do visit that site? Obviously its often enough to notice the change.

    *Backs away*
  154. Let us not forget the Apple Newton... by paratek · · Score: 1

    While I cannot recall the exact URL of the server, there is at least one Apple Newton-based web server still running. How's that for using 4 AA's for good instead of evil?

    :)

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  155. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by grammar+fascist · · Score: 1

    Believe it or not, some people seem to think that the new window manager twm-gl is a hoax.

    I say, that sounds to me like a shameless plug.

    Whatever.

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  156. Bah by NathanL · · Score: 1

    I can port Apache to the C64 in two seconds. All I have to do is type in "Blitz!"

  157. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... by Havokmon · · Score: 1
    OTOH, at least I can now see just how thick some Slashdotters are...

    You mean all the guys who look like "The Comic Book Guy" on The Simpsons, are going to have their pictures up there?

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  158. What's the deal with 4:20? by faqBastard · · Score: 1

    Apologies for my lack of knowledge, but what's the big deal about 4:20?

    1. Re:What's the deal with 4:20? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      4:20 is, at least in the USA, the "smoking time" for all the pot smokers out there.

      There are tons of stories about why, because it's the police call sign for a marijuana bust or because it's Bob Marley's birthday. But you're supposed to smoke at 4:20... and don't even get me started about 4/20 @ 4:20... that's a national holiday for tokers ;-)

  159. Call me offensive but... :) by Balinares · · Score: 1

    Does goatse count as hour 0 or something? :)

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  160. They know we're out here by andrewjnr · · Score: 1

    "After about five server reboots and one kernel rebuild, the site seems to be holding together despite the fact that it was posted to slashdot.org today."

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  161. Dammit people, JOKE != HOAX by mic_n · · Score: 1

    guys, anyone who's not stuffed with straw and looking for the Wizard should see that the TRS-80 bit is a JOKE... C'mon, "Apache ported by monkeys" people, MONKEYS! Quit it with the 'Hoax' comments.. a Hoax is generally something that sets out to be deceptive.. these guys are making no effort at deception.. the claims they're are making are too ludicrous to to be taken seriously. I love the joke source too... very funny. Congrats to the ppl involved.. a genuinely funny site.

  162. Anyone who read the source code... by Erik+Hollensbe · · Score: 1

    Knows that the TRS-80 thing is a total joke... The BASIC contains commands like 'POOP' and 'PUKE', which last I checked, aren't BASIC commands :)

  163. Re:It's a JOKE! Yeesh... -- it really uses 4 AAs by Chirs · · Score: 1

    Actually, the model of TRS-80 that they showed really did run for 20 hours on AA batteries. I knew a guy at the local TRS-80 users group that had one of those things.

  164. 4:20 is the stoner's time! by rahl · · Score: 1

    Peace, dude :)

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  165. TRS-80 Model 100 by Phroggy · · Score: 2

    Damn, that's hysterical.

    If anyone's wondering, the TRS-80 Model 100 really does look like that, it really does run 24 hours on 4 AA batteries, it really does have 32K of RAM, and it really is 2.4MHz. The reason it takes one second to reboot is because there are no drives; everything is stored in 32 of RAM (including the operating system, all programs, and all files).

    The port on the left side that these guys have an Ethernet cable plugged into is a DB-9 port labeled BDR (Bar Code Reader). I've never tried connecting anything to it; the manual says nothing about how to use it (it just says "special Bar Code Reader software is required" and has pinouts in the appendix). I'd imagine it's probably RS-232 serial...

    My casette player is the CCR-81 Model 26-1208A, looks quite a bit different from theirs, and doesn't seem to have a catalog number printed on it. The TRS-80 itself is catalog number 26-3802.

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  166. yup. by vampdsy · · Score: 1

    "We hired a crack team of crafty crack monkeys..."

    I think they just hired from the /. pool.

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