Matrix Reloaded Trailer Online

cheinonen writes "Trying to steal away the thunder from the opening of Star Wars, the trailer for The Matrix Reloaded is online now in Quicktime format. Must say I'm looking forward to this far more than I'm looking forward to Episode 3."

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Streaming Video + Slashdot

[saveth]

A site with streaming geek-type video getting Slashdotted and still being able to hold its own, as far as bandwidth is concerned, is rather impressive. In about ten minutes, I'm sure it won't be doing as well, though. :)

Anyway, trailer is pretty neat. I don't particularly like the fact that it features a song from the previous The Matrix soundtrack, but the rest is good stuff.

Comparing it to the old The Matrix trailers, I'd have to say I'm not so thrilled with The Matrix: Reloaded. I may be jumping the gun when assuming things about it, but it looks like it's less "matrix theory" and more cultish action. I hope the movie doesn't turn out like that.

At any rate, I'll probably get suckered into standing in line for an hour, opening night, and loving the entire movie, so you'd probably be better off just ignoring me. :P

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[stefanlasiewski]

I don't particularly like the fact that it features a song from the previous

This is very common, unfortunately. They probably because a) the soundtrack isn't done yet, or b) they want to keep the soundtrack a secret (since it's a part of the whole movie experience, and they don't want to take away too much of that experience with one ad).

The Attack of the Clones ad has music from Episode I. The most recent add for the Twin Towers (At the end of FotR) has the soundtrack from FotR.

And still, to this day, many action movie ads use the sound track from Aliens (during the part where the Terraforming Plant is exploding); and that song is nearly 16 years old!

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[GoogolPlexPlex]

The most recent add for the Twin Towers

Twin towers? Tolkien wrote a book called The Two Towers, as I recall. Or has the movie been renamed as a tribute?

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[Simon Garlick]

Isn't that just Holst's "Mars", from "The Planets" anyway?

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[foobar104]

And still, to this day, many action movie ads use the sound track from Aliens (during the part where the Terraforming Plant is exploding); and that song is nearly 16 years old!

Ah, yes. The infamous "Bishop's Countdown." Not only has this snippet (about 1:20 into the track, if you care) been used in tons of movie trailers and commercials, but Horner has even plagarized it himself. You'll find it woven through several of his scores.

Of course, that's Horner for you. He writes some great ones-- the Star Trek II and III scores are great, and I've been listening to A Beautiful Mind a lot lately, but the degree to which he "borrows" from himself is pretty startling. Listen to "A Kaleidoscope of Mathematics" from A Beautiful Mind and "The Machine Age" from Bicentennial Man to hear what I'm talking about.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[Gogo Dodo]

A site with streaming geek-type video getting Slashdotted and still being able to hold its own, as far as bandwidth is concerned, is rather impressive. In about ten minutes, I'm sure it won't be doing as well, though. :)

An hour later, the downloading is working fine.

AOL, the service picked on for housing a pile of newbies, proves that it can defeat the onslaught of thousands of geeks. Take that /.!

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[Graspee_Leemoor]

"Actually, I was thinking of the French adaptation; the "twa turets", and I got all confused..."

You must have turets syndrome...

graspee

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[saveth]

Isn't that just Holst's "Mars", from "The Planets" anyway?

I was actually referring to the Rage Against the Machine song. You're right, though, a techno remix version of "Mars" is one of the songs both on the The Matrix soundtrack and in the trailer we've recently watched.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[Monkelectric]

music industry tip - soundtrack has to be written *last* thats because it has to go along with the film that presumably isn't done yet! This isn't to say they dont have an idea what it will sound like, but the orchestra definatley hasn't been hired.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[NeMon'ess]

Can anyone tell me the "operatic" music heard in The Matrix (1) trailer? The music playing while clips of the lobby scene are shown? It isn't in the soundtrack, nor is it in the movie. Thanks in advance.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[10Ghz]

Enigma: The Eyes of truth

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[jdavidb]

Battlefield Earth actually used music from the Matrix for its trailer. (The music from when Neo awakens and looks up and down, seeing human-pods in all directions.)

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[danro]

This is very common, unfortunately. They probably because a) the soundtrack isn't done yet, or b) they want to keep the soundtrack a secret (since it's a part of the whole movie experience, and they don't want to take away too much of that experience with one ad).

Yeah, or Rage Against The Machine's "Bombtrack" intentionally making a return in this movie.
IMHO it is a very fitting "theme" song for the matrix movies.

On the other hand, this song has made an appearance in countless movies. Guess it's just good for action.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[amnesty]

A few things.

Teasers for movie sequels usually are there to say -- hey we got a sequel coming out in 1 year! Get ready for it. So they're going to rely on the stuff you liked in the first movie to advertise it -- songs, action, etc.

Plus they're not going to give away even minor spoilers about the plot/concept this early... and movie trailers tend to be cut very strangely since remember they are meant to get the general public to get INTO the movie theatre, not be an accurate representation of the movie.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[danro]

Sorry, I stand corrected.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[Openadvocate]

Yeah, or Rage Against The Machine's "Bombtrack"
Ah, now there's a CD I haven't played in a long time, time to bug my neighbours now.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[handorf]

The most recent add for the Twin Towers (At the end of FotR) has the soundtrack from FotR.


OK, normally I wouldn't nitpick to this level, but the movie is "The Two Towers". The only reason I'm nitpicking is that there are groups who want to change the name of the movie because they feel it is a reference to 9-11, even though the book of the same name was written > 50 yrs ago.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[TheCrazyFinn]

Ita ctually makes a lot of sense. The Matrix ends with Wake up, so to have the sequel begin with it adds continuity.

Personally I'm hoping for more Rob D and Propellerheads stuff for the new Soundtracks.

The Crazy Finn

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[Saige]

The song is "The Eyes of Truth", from the second Enigma album, "The Cross of Changes" - and the rest of the song, and the entire album, are just as good as that clip.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[WeedMonkey]

that there are groups who want to change the name of the movie because they feel it is a reference to 9-11

Right, that's it, I've now officially lost all hope of the human race ever pulling itself out of the toilet in which it's currently wallowing.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[Decimal Dave]

it features a song from the previous The Matrix soundtrack

I don't remember any singing in the last matrix movie... This doesn't mean they are turning the next one into some kind of musical, does it?

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[jmcmurry]

Sorry, not Holst. At least in the trailer I saw. The orchestral music is from the original score to "The Matrix." Listen to the music during the hotel ambush scene.

Not all heavy, syncopated orchestral music is "Mars", you know.

BTW, check out the Don Davis soundtrack on the DVD for "The Matrix" to hear some great commentary on the score and what it's like to write film music.

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[bryan1945]

Nah, it's not that bad- just wave some shiny things (Spiderman, Episode 2) at them and they will all go "ooooooh, aaaahhh!"

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[bajdev]

I don't particularly like the fact that it features a song from the previous The Matrix soundtrack

It is actually kind of fitting if you remember the Rage song that is used in the trailer was only played at the very end of the movie (When Neo flew off and the credits rolled). The first Matrix ended with this song, so the second Matrix starts with it. Just a thought

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[Ashyukun]

This is definitely common- I've lost count of how many times instrumental segments from the "Backdraft" soundtrack have been used in movie trailers (not to mention in The Iron Chef....).

Re:Streaming Video + Slashdot

[goodhell]

"I don't particularly like the fact that it features a song from the previous....
This is very common, unfortunately. They probably because a) the soundtrack isn't done yet, or b) they want to keep the soundtrack a secret (since it's a part of the whole movie experience, and they don't want to take away too much of that experience with one ad)."

What are you talking about????

I have seen so many movies come out with the soundtrack before the damn movie hits the box office. Take for example Star Wars 2. Hell, I bought the CD several weeks ago, plus all the other paraphanalia. My friend has already finished the book that Salvatore covered. (This irritates me, that all the crap has come out before hand.)

just my 2 kopecks

Download Trailer

[sameerd]

here.

Sound Track.

[KanSer]

I hope they don't just recycle the soundtrack from the last one. Also, who was the guy with the white dreads? That small snippet with the Agent and all those birds reminded me of Harry Potter meets The Crow. Neo looks like he's takin to dancing while fighting, lots of jumps. Morpheus with that japanese Katana lookin sword made my day.

Re:Sound Track.

[Sorcerer13]

from what I have read, the guy with the white dreads is a new model of super agent or something.

Matrix multiplication

[techmuse]

I can't wait for Matrix III: The Matrix Diagonalized. ;)

No one can tell you what the matrix is, but a TI-86 can solve for it in seconds.

Re:Matrix multiplication

[themaddone]

No, see, that's the problem...

Do not try and find the solution. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth: There is no solution.

Re:Matrix multiplication

[kpansky]

> No one can tell you what the matrix is, but a TI-86 can solve for it in seconds.

Ah, that it can. With a little matlab (or octave) fun, you can solve any matrix even ones that aren't linearly independent.

Re:Matrix multiplication

[kelnos]

or perhaps just name the next one "the array." that's what happens when they try to destroy the matrix - they are only able to remove one of its dimensions.

or maybe "the matrix: reducing neo to row echelon form." how about "the matrix: the gaussian elimination of agent smith."

ok, i'll stop now.

Re:Matrix multiplication

[Monkelectric]

might as well list as many as I can ... academic humor

Computer graphics -- Matrix, The Transformation ... Linear Algebra -- The Nth Matrix, Mechanical Engineering -- rxF - the moment of the matrix. The Matrix for Humanties majors -- what the fuck is a matrix? Physics -- Where the matrix represents a spherical cow of uniform density.

I really wanted to work pivot, eigenvaluse/vectors determinants, projections, method of least squres and vector space in, but its too late for that :D

Re:Matrix multiplication

[Anonymous Coward]

At least squares will want to see this movie, so lets hope they put in lots of good sci-fi and not just a bunch of mindless violence.

Re:Matrix multiplication

[CAIMLAS]

No no no... It'll be "The Matrix: Vector Space"

Re:Matrix multiplication

[56ker]

Somehow when you know enough to understand each of those jokes they suddenly lose their humourous quality.

Re:Matrix multiplication

[BlackGriffen]

I disagree wholeheartedly. I understand them all, and I found them hilarious. It's the realization that you know enough to find them funny and, well, that you find them funny that is the real "you are a nerd" type revelation that can cut the ego.

BlackGriffen

Re:Matrix multiplication

[Darth Coder]

I wish someone had told my math professor that :-)

Re:Saving the File

[Blipus]

yeah right click on THIS and do a save as. thats the largest version they got, 24 megs. its kinda slow, says I have 1:20 left

looks sweet, bad title

[Sorcerer13]

and yes, I do understand that at the end of the last movie it crashed and now they have rebooted or whatnot, but it still could be a cooler title

Re:looks sweet, bad title

[MisterBlister]

The Matrix is written in Direct3D version 17. Someone would need to port it to OpenGL, or pull off some good kludges to get it running under Wine.

In any case they seem to have fixed the graphic glitch that causes everything to be slightly green tinted from the last release of The Matrix OS.

Re:looks sweet, bad title

[whovian]

I was thinking "The Matrix 3: ALT-SysRQ-b Rebooted" would work too.

Re:Saving the File

[JAVAC THE GREAT]

Got it, thanks.

Re:Saving the File

[fiftyfly]

check : http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wbonline/reloade d_teaser_1_640.mov

SVCD quicktime

[2MuchC0ffeeMan]

check out the trailer in svcd format
http://www.jimmyhack.net/MATRIX_SVCD_JH.ra r

note: it's not linked on purpose... if anyone wants to mirror it, please do, i give the website 5 minutes before it's dead, and it's routers are dead, and everything else on that side of the planet is dead.

Re:Saving the File

[Blipus]

hah, just realized i was about the third person to post a direct link. sorry for the redundancy or whatever you /. people say. at least it was in response to someone that asked for it though and not an outright karma whore troll or whatever.

Re:Saving the File

[BrianGa]

Here is the way I usually use. In the quicktime settings, there is an option to cache all video files. When this is selected, open the movie and let it full load. Then, open your temporary internet folder and sort by date. Your file should be right on top.

whatisthematrix?

[ObviousGuy]

It's an attempt to squeeze money out of stupid moviegoers who think that contemplating their existence as merely a figment of someone else's contemplation is deep.

It's also a vehicle to hawk toys and other movie-related paraphernalia to these 14-35 year old men.

Re:whatisthematrix?

[Tazzy531]

Isn't that what all movies are about? I mean, suspension of disbelief?

Re:whatisthematrix?

[caca_phony]

It's an attempt to squeeze money out of stupid moviegoers who think that contemplating their existence as merely a figment of someone else's contemplation is deep.

Right on man, that is not funny, it is the truth. The people who treat the Matrix as Philosophy treat Madonna as Philosophy. Hell, Frank Zappa or South Park are deeper than that shit, and I can't stand that tight leather sexy cool pseudo sm but without offending the frat boys image shit. Sexyness is not challenging or daring, it is commercial and good business. And, oh yeah, to wrap up the rant, inspiring thought or introducing challanging ideas is not good for commerce in the world of entertainment.

Re:whatisthematrix?

[sewagemaster]

matrix 1 is about birth
matrix 2 is about life
matrix 3 is about death

Re:whatisthematrix?

[NDPTAL85]

Is it at all possible to simply enjoy a movie without over analyzing it like you're some sort of Harvard educated sociologist?

Re:whatisthematrix?

[scott_evil]

this man is a goddamned genius, moderate him up

Re:whatisthematrix?

[chemix]

Actually, it is philosophy. It just isn't original philosophy. The concept of reality as a false imagination is straight from Orwell's 1984.
But obviously it's not a movie for those who prefer Citizen Kane. It's essentially just made as a well-produced movie that's fun to watch.
Contrary to popular misconception, the human psyche needs entertainment as much as it does enlightenment.

Re:whatisthematrix?

[MortisUmbra]

Be honest, you are that guy who I always sit next to that no matter how good the movie is you say things like "yeah right" and "oh come on" every five seconds.... I know its you....

Re:whatisthematrix?

[Grunschev]

Arguing that people who get their philosophy from movies are shallow is like arm wrestling a quadriplegic. *Of course* you're going to come out on top.

I went to junior high school with a quadriplegic. He lost both legs above the knees, his left arm just below the elbow and his right arm just above the wrist. He was a bit of a chubnik, since he couldn't really exercise. But he did like to arm wrestle.

To arm wrestle him, we'd both lie down on the ground, and I'd grasp his right stump, trying not to think about how weird this was. He definitely had the psychological advantage. He was also quite strong, and beat me handily. (Sorry about the bad pun, I couldn't resist).

I forget his name and haven't really given him much thought since then. But he was one of the most determined people I've ever met. I saw him several years later in a pool hall playing a video game. I don't recall the game, but it had simple push button controls. He kicked ass at that game, too.

I never would have guessed I'd be beaten at arm wrestling by a quadriplegic, and you probably don't think a man with no hands could beat you at a video game, but then again life is full of surprises.

Oh, and there's nothing wrong with getting your philosophy from movies. Just as long as you're careful which movies to get it from!

Igor

Re:whatisthematrix?

[Dragoness Eclectic]

Who thought it was original philosophy? Certainly not the producers--it's blatantly based on Eastern mystical themes. I can see Zen Buddhist and Hindu themes all through the movie... The World is Illusion. Far older than Orwell.

Is that a bad thing? No! It's certainly more interesting than the usual simplistic, one-dimensional themes and plots found in American action movies.

Re:whatisthematrix?

[ChrisCampbell47]

Is it at all possible to simply enjoy a movie without over analyzing it like you're some sort of Harvard educated sociologist?

Judging by the dearth of actual intelligent insight, I think most people posting here are actually DeVry-educated.

Re:SVCD quicktime

[saveth]

I've mirrored it at http://helium.denterprises.org/~saveth/MATRIX_SVCD _JH.rar. I will take it down before I go to work in seven hours, so abuse it while you can. :)

Download the trailer here

[gandalf23]

Here's the link to the trailer in 640x288
http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wbonline/reloade d_teaser_1_640.mov

It's about 24 MB

480x224
http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wbonline/reloade d_teaser_1_480.mov

and 320x144
http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wbonline/reloade d_teaser_1_320.mov

-gandalf23

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Re:Quicktime + Linux = No Slashdot Effect

[saveth]

It's got to be downloaded somehow, right? Er, moron?

Are there two sequels?

[g4dget]

Sorry for being so completely out of it, but are "Reloaded" and "Revolution" two separate sequels?

Re:Are there two sequels?

[Tazzy531]

yup...but they filmed it at the same time. They are coming out within a couple months of each other...

Re:Are there two sequels?

[hajmola]

if you're talking about the "Matrix Revolutions" at the end of the trailer, i believe it was referring to the trilogy.

Re:SVCD quicktime

[saveth]

Somehow, a space ended up in that URL. It's as follows.

http://helium.denterprises.org/~saveth/MATRIX_SV CD _JH.rar

The space works, too, actually, but I'm seeing things like the following in my logs.

xx.xx.xxx.xxx - - [16/May/2002:05:36:01 +0000] "GET /%7Esaveth/MATRIX_SVCD HTTP/1.0" 404 321 "-" "Wget/1.7"

So, yeah. To everyone eating my bandwidth, you're welcome! :)

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Imagine...

[Agar]

A trailer that gives away neither plot nor ending, but still makes you want to see the movie.

Shouldn't this be how all trailers are made?

Sigh. Instead, I'm sure it's only the first one of many. By the time we're a week away from release we'll be able to reconstruct the entire movie by splicing and re-editing the trailers.

Re:Imagine...

[broller]

A trailer that gives away neither plot nor ending, but still makes you want to see the movie.

Shouldn't this be how all trailers are made?

Nope, sorry, this isn't a trailer. As it clearly says when you go to the site, this is a Teaser, which, while similar to a trailer, is not the same as a trailer.

This is the first hype of many and it's supposed to get you excited about the movie. Looks like it worked. :)

Re:Imagine...

[Morgahastu]

I think I have a general idea of what happens in the movie. Now that Neo is a threat, armies of Agents come after him and his buddies. So him and his buddies have to fight an army of agents. And then towards the end they would free everyone from the matrix and the third movie would involve taking back the planet from the robots.

Re:Imagine...

[tb3]

Even better, it doesn't have a guy with an amazingly deep voice saying, "Imagine a world were..."

Re:First productive post?

[CaptainCarrot]

Considering Aaliyah died in a plane crash last year, it's unlikely she's going to appear in a movie that was shooting at the time.

Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[zook]

I've come to think that Star Wars---all of them---and The Matrix are pretty similar: they're all big flashy movies that make the viewer feel like there's some deep meaning in them when they don't.

I have to say, I've enjoyed them all, but I think they're all overhyped.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[fiftyfly]

mmm, I'm in a similar boat, though I think that it's highly cool that the movie(s) borrow from other works that do ask some "better" questions. Watching the first martix was a bit like a game, figuring out where I'd "seen" (read) that little bit first. The fact that the script did that (for me) while still preenting a flick that was fun to watch says something.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[caca_phony]

I've come to think that Star Wars---all of them---and The Matrix are pretty similar: they're all big flashy movies that make the viewer feel like there's some deep meaning in them when they don't.

You said it. It is actually kind of funny, the Matrix takes many ideas from Jean Baudrillard's pseudophilosophy, and creating the illusion of depth is both one of the greatest themes and one of the greatest accomplishments of Baudrillard's works. Baudrillard is probably the most succesfull troll of the world of critical theory.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[namespan]

I had the reverse experience with The Matrix: I watched expecting a total action flick, no real meaning at all. In fact, I didn't watch it until well over a year and a half after it came out. I looked down on Matrix weenies. And the first time I watched it, I saw nothing but popcorn on screen.

Over time, tho', it's interesting... I started to see some of the Greek Philosophy and allusions come through. Now it's something I DO actually think about. Humans as Batteries? Don't make me laugh. Keanu Reeves as a Messiah? It does make me laugh. "There is no spoon?" OK, not deep. But the mythology of overcoming lack of confidence, making a choice to risk, choosing to risk for others, undertaking a quest for something bigger than yourself, looking for guidance from an oracle (and a fairly Delphic one at that!)... all good stuff.

Plus, I just love Agent Smith. "It's the smell!" I'll bet you two of my best baseball cards that Agent Smith could kick Darth Vader's butt.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[ender81b]

Very true. The matrix has huge plot holes throughout.. if the goddam AI's have 'some type of fusion' they would have utterly no NEED for the human's as 'batteries.' Fusion, even in the simple form we are devolping today, gives them all the power they could ever need. Since they are obviously a technically advanced race giant solar mirrors in orbit beaming power to the surface would work alss. The power used to keep the humans alive, and maintain the matrix, would exceed what the humans would generate (Young Lady, in this house we OBEY THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS!) It also never quite made sense to me why they even created "the matrix", simply putting russian sleep sets on the people (3 electrodes passing an electric current through your brain - puts you to sleep until it is shut off) would have worked.

The only thing I could think of, and maybe they will address it in these next 2 movies, is that the AI's still have some sort of vestigal programming to the sort of 'never harm humans' or like Asimov's 3 laws of robots and are literally unable to just swear off the human race. Or, they could feel some sort of obligation to their creators, and feel a need to 'take care of them.' Worse crimes in history have been justified by a need to 'protect the race.'

I still love the movie to death though... =)

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[m95lah]

Or, perhaps the battery thing is only conjecture by the humans that have gotten out of the matrix. In fact the AIs need the human minds for inventing stuff that a "mere machine" could never come up with. This of course would imply that the human mind is still more powerful than an AI, but I can buy that.
Or perhaps the AIs are in fact trying to find The One themselves, that the whole Matrix thing is just a breeding programme for Neos.

We might have the answer in a year...

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[Peyna]

On the subject of batteries, wouldn't the number of liquified humans needed to provide sufficient food for the rest of humans exceed the number of humans in existence? Considering the average human already eats many many animals (not all of us mind you), animals which ate many many pounds of food themselves, I find this system to be pretty messed up. =]

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[Myco]

I think it's more insidious than that. We all know it's not about body heat, it's about processing power. That's right, the Matrix is -- wait for it -- a Beowulf cluster of brains.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[DarkZero]

The Matrix, much like Star Wars, is really a fantasy movie that's trying to tell a story that's almost wholly removed from science fiction (in the traditional "fiction with loads of science in it" sense). Trying to find scientific holes in the quick and easy explanations they give for complex technology is like complaining that lightsabers are "scientifically unsound" and that The Force "has no basis in reality". Star Wars is a story about Flash Gordon-esque fantastic adventures and The Matrix is a story about enslavement by a race completely removed from humans; neither is really about science, but both use science as a thin background for a story, much like fantasy novels use a twisted version of medieval Europe as their setting. Which, by the way, could also be called a historically ridiculous portrayal of medieval Europe.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[atarian]

My take on this is that Morpheus was simply wrong about the battery thing, at least partly.

The AI civilazation may use human brains as "wetware" to run their consciousness either in whole or in part. The recycling the dead, and collecting the heat is just for energy efficiency.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[Peter Harris]

My take on The Matrix is:

* It sets up a semi-plausible explanation which allows the main characters to exhibit "superpowers". The audience doesn't have to suspend as much disbelief as they do to enjoy Spider Man, for example. (Bitten by a radioactive spider? Yeah, that'll do it..)

* There's a fairly strong anti-establishment message, backed up by powerful metaphor. Humans as batteries ~= humans as dumb consumers/peasants/wage slaves, the matrix representing the entertainment and news media. The message is: you are being used; wake up.

* Ironically, the film has made a lot of money from dumb consumers. Heh heh.

My take on Star Wars is:

* (VI) Death to all ewoks. They should have used Wookies as I have heard was the original intention.

* (IV,V,VI) Luke Skywalker is an incredible wank.

* (I) That Jedi with the long neck stands no chance of surviving his first lightsaber fight.

* (I) Death to Jar-Jar. I mean it. The first few minutes of the film were excellent. Then he turns up and ruins every scene he appears in.

* (I) Annie is a girl's name. No wonder he turned evil. It was that or turn gay and shack up with Jar-Jar.

* (I) Midichlorians are a stupid idea. Annakin's mum doesn't know who his father was. I think the usual explanation for that is most likely.

* (II) I hope the last good act of Annakin Skywalker or the first evil act of Darth Vader is killing Jar Jar.

As you can tell, I don't take Star Wars very seriously.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[zik0]

Speaking of which, the movie got out 6 hours ago and we still don't have Taco's review.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[Ummagumma]

" if the goddam AI's have 'some type of fusion' they would have utterly no NEED for the human's as 'batteries.'"

Kinda like we'd have utterly no need for more memory than 640k ? ;-p

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[gidds]

The Matrix... is really a fantasy movie that's trying to tell a story that's almost wholly removed from science fiction

I disagree: The Matrix is about the nature of reality, illusion, telling the difference, and controlling the illusion. Those are very strong science fiction ideas. It also has elements of future history and machine intelligence, though not used very intelligently (something that I hope the sequels might address).

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[FPhlyer]

So, here's the rub.

If Neo and his gang of malcontents do manage to rescue humanity from the clutches of the Matrix, then what?

Suddenly you flood a ruined world with millions of Human beings in need of immediate medical attention? Yeah. That will work.

Seems to me that the AI's are doing humanity a favor. If you "freed" the people "in the matrix" then you would have an immediate problem with food supply. It's called overpopulating the habitat. And you would think SOMEONE would have figured this out by now.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[TheCrazyFinn]

I assume you recognized the motto over the doorway to the Oracle's Kitchen?

'Know Thyself' one of the 2 inscriptions on the entrance of the Oracle at Delphi, the other being 'To Thine Own Self Be True'.

The Crazy Finn
(Who still prefers the archaic translations)

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[arkanes]

Know Thyself, yeah, but I think you're smoking the pot about To Thine Own Self Be True.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[MortisUmbra]

Heh, this coming from a highschooler who seems a) infatuated with JB's writings and b) has neither shown himself to grasp the concept that the BIGGEST money making factor of the matrix was not the action, nor the plot, but rather the intense new level to which they pushed moviemaking. The technical achievements are what won them over in the hearts and minds of most of their viewers. Nor do you seem to comprehend that this is not a book, this is a movei, a ficticious story bent not around stressing you mind (because the large part of the audience would care less about seeing a movie of that nature) and more about being entertaining while scraping the surface of something meaningfull.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[MortisUmbra]

Yup I stopped caring what you had to say when "I'll bet you two of my best baseball cards that Agent Smith could kick Darth Vader's butt." came out.... seriously, isn't there a checkbox when you register that says you have to be over 13?

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[MortisUmbra]

Are you stoned?

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[Cally]

(gloomily) I wish you could explain this to my grilf. I love her to bits and all, but she's got some terrible new-age hippy-freak pseudo-science beliefs... she reckons the first Matrix film was a thinly-veiled metaphor for the view of the universe (and human existence) propounded by Carlos Castaneda. She practically worships Castaneda, she's convinced he's got the profound insight & Ancient Wisdom of the Sages and all that crap. It's long past the point where we just don't bother talking about it any more. (well, /I/ don't bother talking about it any more, I just put my face in my hands when she reads bits out to me ;)

The stuff about the aliens needing humans "for their Energy" plays perfectly with her new-age bollocks ideas. I've pointed out that if this stuff existed, anyone who could prove it could walk away with the Nobel Prize, but she doesn't want to know.
ANy suggestions? (Apart from "find a new girlfriend"... )

--
All I wanted was a taste / just enough to waste the day

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[ender81b]

Ummm.. no. Fusion uses hydrogen, we have a nearly unlimited supply in the form of water. It would take us hundreds of thousands of years to lower the ocean b an appreciable precentage.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[nobody69]

My father-in-law is a Lutheran pastor and he has used _The Matrix_ as a sermon illustration several times. Obviously, he stuck to the risk for others, going on a quest stuff, rather than the 'You are a battery that can warp reality' stuff.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[TheCrazyFinn]

Look it up. Both motto's are on the entrance to the Oracle at Delphi. Know thyself is just the far more famous of the two.

The Crazy Finn

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[jafac]

The Second Law of thermodynamics is just another Lie fed to you by The Matrix.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[arkanes]

I spent 15 or 20 minutes before posting on google and didn't find even 1 reference. Got a link?

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[gabec]

OK i just got back from SWE2.... and there was no Matrix 2 trailer. wtf??

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[William Baric]

Movies like The Matrix are great because instead of pretentiously telling some "deep meaning" they mainly show you symbols. It's up to you to take these symbols and give them a meaning as deep as you want.

You must realize there is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. Free your mind.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[TheCrazyFinn]

My bad, I got an alternate translation of 'Know Thyself' mixed up with the actual other inscription, which is 'Nothing to Excess'.

The Crazy Finn

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[DarkZero]

Judging solely on what you have written here, I suggest that you have her committed, at least temporarily.

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[namespan]

I stopped caring what you had to say when "I'll bet you two of my best baseball cards that Agent Smith could kick Darth Vader's butt." came out.

Altogether fortunate that I was done saying things at that point, eh?

It was a joke.

"No way! Aquaman could take BOTH of them, I tell you... he'd just have to summon a giant squid and a few sharks."

(sharks with frickin' laser beams, I might add :)

Re:Star Wars ~ The Matrix

[namespan]

I didn't pick it up, but one of my serious-philosophy-student friends did, and he passed it on to me. Then we started talking about how Greek the whole "On one hand.... and on the other hand..." thing was.

The Greeks also asked questions like "How do we know we're not just brains in a jar being fed reality by demons?" and Plato had his platonic forms which could be stretched to be code for reality. The classes, rather than the objects, if you will. : )

Re:First productive post?

[BJH]

Apparently, she may appear in some crowd scenes, but all her lines were reshot with the actress they got in as her replacement (forget the name...)

Re:Quicktime + Linux = No Slashdot Effect

[dvanduzer]

That's what Windows partitions are for anyway. Is a 2 minute reboot worth 30 seconds of Keanu goodness worth it?

......yes.

Re:SVCD quicktime

[NightHwk1]

slashdot won't allow you to post long "words" such as that .. you should create an html <A> link instead.

Best Part About the Trailer...

[pycnanthemum]

Someone made the smart decision to show Keanu but not play his voice. One can only hope the movie follows a similar path.

---------
(not the one)

Re:Best Part About the Trailer...

[tresstatus]

everytime i see him i think of that one line from bill and ted..... "dude, it's your mom".....

Re:Best Part About the Trailer...

[TheKey]

Actually, if you watch The Matrix (I), and pay attention, you'll notice that Neo has significantly less lines than the other main characters. Most of the ones he does have are confused one or two word sentences. Of course, I suppose I would be confused too..

I was looking forward to this movie...

[MisterBlister]

Until I saw this teaser.

The Matrix was a really great movie and I loved the fact that it just popped up unhyped..

I wanted to love this teaser, but I just sat there thinking "Uh well this is pretty lame". The ever-so-brief Morpheus-with-a-sword scene looks like it has promise, but the rest looks like boring car chases and silly fights. All of that slo-mo wire-work on the staircases looks stupid, IMO.

I'm still hopeful they can pull this movie off, but based on this teaser alone I'm much less excited about seeing this movie than I was before I saw it.

Re:I was looking forward to this movie...

[Steveftoth]

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Well if you want to hold up this movie like it was some kind of magical experience then go right ahead. The few people who realize that IT'S JUST A MOVIE will go on and watch it and have fun regardledd of your fanboy expectations.

Re:I was looking forward to this movie...

[telstar]

Good! That just means there'll be one extra seat in the theatre for me. I loved the first one, and I'm sure I'll love the 2nd and 3rd.

Re:I was looking forward to this movie...

[Mandelbrute]

The Matrix was a really great movie and I loved the fact that it just popped up unhyped..

There was hype - just not Blair Witch or Episode I hype. The preview web page had some great stuff on it (eg. other stories set in the matrix), and the original trailer blew me away. I still have it on my hard drive - even after deleting numerous games. I think it showed the whole feel of the story better than the movie as a whole did - but watching a whole movie at that pace would be as mind blowing as watching Run Lola Run on fast forward. I hope the new movie is as good a fantasy movie as the last.

Re:I was looking forward to this movie...

[chemix]

Excuse me, but... The Matrix WAS a bunch of silly fights. And you don't seem to have a problem with the slo-mo wire-work in the dojo on the original movie. Exactally HOW is this trailer showing it to be different than the first one?

Re:I was looking forward to this movie...

[DevNova]

Yeah, and I'm sure they condensed the whole movie down to this teaser. Right. What you saw in the teaser is the entire movie. You've seen it now, why bother going to see it in 2003.

"Let's put a complex, involved scene in the teaser! Sure it'll take up 90% of the length. And it will mean absolutely nothing outside the context of the finished film. But it'll make MisterBlister happy, 'cause he can't understand the concept of a normal teaser."

Re:1st post!

[whereiswaldo]

Lots of mirrors, but it doesn't look like we'll need 'em. Downloaded at 10:45PM PDT at the max speed of my DSL! Had to go through my Opera cache to be able to play it twice, though.

Matrix Reloaded Teaser Trailer with SW:AOTC...

[antdude]

Don't forget. You should be able to see this teaser trailer when you see Star Wars: Attack of the Clones movie.

Re:Matrix Reloaded Teaser Trailer with SW:AOTC...

[Anonymous Coward]

It wasn't part of the file that I downloaded. :-(

Re:Matrix Reloaded Teaser Trailer with SW:AOTC...

[tfreport]

Yeah, the trailer was pretty sweet. Especially since the crowd was so reved up about SW tonight! Showed some action to get attention and then added over some Matrix mystery stuff. It should be an interesting movie.

By the way, SW:AOTC turned out really good. So glad I got tickets to the 12:01 showing. Almost didn't after Episode 1, but Clones was really good. Dialogue still a bit cheesy and there were a few scenes where you were lefting wondering why that happened (Amadalla springing up after being hurt), but the movie itself - excellent.

Re:Matrix Reloaded Teaser Trailer with SW:AOTC...

[datajosh]

Don't forget. You should be able to see this teaser trailer when you see Star Wars: Attack of the Clones movie.

It all depends on your theater. I just got back from the 12:01am showing here (AOTC was awesome) and they didn't show the trailer for Reloaded. It's a loose trailer so it won't necessarily be attached to AOTC at your theater.

Re:Matrix Reloaded Teaser Trailer with SW:AOTC...

[antdude]

I said "should" in my sentence. ;)

Re:Matrix Reloaded Teaser Trailer with SW:AOTC...

[bonius_rex]

I saw AOTC last night, and the only Martix reference I saw was an ad for the Toyota Matrix.

:-(

Re:Matrix Reloaded Teaser Trailer with SW:AOTC...

[grink]

The AMC I went to for a 12:01 showing didn't show the trailer.

Re:Matrix Reloaded Teaser Trailer with SW:AOTC...

[m3000]

Same here. An AMC theater and no Matrix trailer.

Re:SVCD quicktime

[saveth]

Ah, so that's what's going on. Thanks. I was just following the dogma of the original poster of this thread, by not linking the link. :)

Re:Episode Three

[edwdig]

Actually, I'm quite curious how they'll make Episode 3 interesting. By they time it comes out, we'll have seen episodes 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6. We'll already know the situation at the beginning and end of the movie before we see it, so unless they throw in some serious swerves. So unless episode 2 really impresses people, I can definately see episode 3 be not very appealing.

low bandwidth version

[Pilferer]

For those of you with low bandwidth connections, here is the trailer, in ASCII:

$ { } & 0
$ @ . . 0
% 1 / ; 1
^ ~ # " 0
@ @ ! . 1
! ( ] @ 0

"THE MATRIX RELOADED"
2003

(and actually, that's pretty much all there is to the trailer)

Re:low bandwidth version

[MisterBlister]

You forgot the 30 seconds or so of nothing but black at the beginning, before The Matrix Scroll(TM) starts.

Re:low bandwidth version

[dimator]

I thought my damn crossover plugin was incompatible or something when I saw nothing but blackness with audio...

Re:low bandwidth version

[evilviper]

Well, that's more than EP2 has in the entire movie.

To save you all your $8.50, the Star Wars EP2 story in it's entirety:

Anakin guards Queen Amidala. That leads to discovering a covert cloning project. Anakin sees his mother die, blames himself, and goes a little evil because of it. Big jedi fight. Reveal corrupt ex-jedi in league with Sith. Yoda makes fearful prediction. Anakin get's the girl.

That's it. There's really nothing else to the movie. Sorry, Lucas may have written a wonderful trilogy, but that's where it ended.

Now everyone, go see The Matrix 100 times so we can get the title of highest-grossing movie back from the ever-idiotic Titanic. Star Wars sure isn't going to do it.

Re:low bandwidth version

[Ryne]

Anakin guards Queen Amidala. That leads to discovering a covert cloning project. Anakin sees his mother die, blames himself, and goes a little evil because of it. Big jedi fight. Reveal corrupt ex-jedi in league with Sith. Yoda makes fearful prediction. Anakin get's the girl.

This is more story than a lot of movies has. E.g:
Some dudes go to the mountain to throw down the ring into the pit

Disclaimer: This was an attempt to be funny. I love Tolkien.

Re:low bandwidth version

[DarkHelmet]

Wow, that woman in the red dress is looking hotter than ever... I can see it. It's the piece of ascii that looks like this o8-< ... See the woman with the big juggies? I never knew they could convey so much just by asking us to turn our heads to the side by 90 degrees.

What will those guys think of next?

Re:low bandwidth version

[Alomex]

Sorry, Lucas may have written a wonderful trilogy, but that's where it ended.

Oh puleeeze. The first three movies (Ep 4, 5 & 6) were not that great either. We were young and impressionable and were blown away by third rate actors which were so bad nobody ever hired them after that. The story line is vapid and cheesy, along the lines of zillion "American boy meets evil, American boy pulls together, American boy beats evil" that were so popular back then. People complain about Jar-Jar, but the Ewoks were no different...

The emperor never had any clothes...

Re:low bandwidth version

[Rupert]

Yeah, what ever happened to that Harrison Ford guy, anyway?

Re:low bandwidth version

[Buck2]

Actually, you are describing _three_ movies in your sentence there.

I think it should go more like:

1) Some people walk haltingly towards a bad place.
2) Other people fight.
3) The first people make it to the bad place and throw a RING into a HOT FIRE! Take THAT, evil!

Re:low bandwidth version

[mckayc]

Luke is American?? I never knew the US was around a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

Re:low bandwidth version

[Alomex]

Luke is American?? I never knew the US was around a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

Blond, blue-eyed, working in a farm that could well be in Kansas and certainly not in Japan, or Russia or Brazil. Shotting rats in the canyon, just like farmers do in the USA (and pretty much nowhere else in the world).

You don't see the cultural references because they are transparent to you, but to a foreigner they are as obvious as a kimono would be for you.

Re:low bandwidth version

[Rupert]

According to IMDb, Chewie hasn't worked in films since RotJ.

Re:Saving the File

[MaxVlast]

Buzzword Linux super anime mega microsoft sucks Linux Open Source whore troll karma Cowboy Neal future JonKatz hellmouth haha. 50!

They fixed the only flaw in the original...

[puppetman]

Neo didn't say a word.

Re:They fixed the only flaw in the original...

[dingo]

Whoa....dude....no way...*confused look*

Re:They fixed the only flaw in the original...

[martyn s]

Actually, he didn't mean "lousy". "Lousey" means filled with lice.

Re:They fixed the only flaw in the original...

[dingo]

bit of both by now actually.
you have no idea how many people get the urge to correct my "spelling mistake" even though it really isnt one. I guess i leave it there against popular opinion because "spelling mistakes" attract attention

Re:They fixed the only flaw in the original...

[Hawk-ML]

Well not really. But it would have been nice if Neo had stayed gagged for the whole movie =)

Re:SVCD quicktime

[Joe Tie.]

Thanks for both putting it up, and for putting up this geek related movie file in a format friendly towards operating systems of a similar nature!

Re:Quicktime + Linux = No Slashdot Effect

[caca_phony]

Err, CmdrTaco mentioned on GIS ages ago that the majority of hits come from IE.

I am sorry, it is all my fault, back when I used closed source software on linux, including Opera, I spent all day reloading the frontpage, giving IE as my spoofed browser id cause I had no life. Now I just use mozilla. Sorry for throwing the statistics all out of whack ;)

I hope The Matrix goes evangelion

[Anonymous Coward]

The 'going evangelion' thing means to not butch the dramatic development in favor of mindless action. It is the opposite of Star Wars - Episode I. You know, it's nice to do things like character and story development.
In the interviews at site the guys say that the sequels are something 'much bigger' than the original. Much bigger like 'episode I', I fear. I pray for this not to be the case.

Of course, they need not exagerate! If the Matrix 3 is like the last TV episode of evangelion, bad things will happen!

Little information, big experience

[Sprunkys]

What a wonderful trailer. It gives little away about the movie regarding the story line and the action scenes but it does tell you a lot about the experience and it certainly gets me excited about it.

If you compare this to the Star Wars trailers for example. Of course we all know the story line, but we don't know about all the action scences and the conversations. After seeing the trailers though, several scenes are pretty much given away for free to the public which, in my eyes somewhat takes away from the experience.

Canada Legalizes Pot

[Lethyos]

Well, the editors are being assholes again. I thought I should share this with all of you.

* 2002-05-16 05:57:50 Canada Legalizes Pot, US Being Stupid About It (articles,usa) (rejected)
Not posted by CmdrTaco on Thursday May 16, @ 02:23a.m.
From the reefer-madness dept.

Lethyos writes, Well, we have lived long enough to see marijuana legalized on the North American continent. What a great time to be alive! This story at canada.com reports that the Canadian parliament has lifted bans on pot. There are ev en plans for the Canadian government to grow marijuana for medical uses. They state, "The Se nate committee concludes there is no convincing evidence that smoking pot leads to using hard er drugs." Needless to say, the DEA is not happy about it and the Bush administration is pla nning to place trade restrictions on Canada for the move. So we're going to whack our friend ly neighbor to the north with a big stick for doing both the right and smart thing, it seems. Lucky for me, I'm going up there next week! :) At Slashdot, we're a bunch of fuckheads who don't post interesting and even historically important stories. We just beat off to hentai tentical rape!

Re:Canada Legalizes Pot

[bocee]

Wow, I wonder why it got rejected.

From the article:

The U.S. fears the next step could be looser regulations leading to more drugs crossing the border and its ready to play hardball with trade to make sure that doesn't happen.

No laws have been changed yet, the senate has just released findings which suggest that there are no real compelling reasons to keep it illegal.

And the Canadian government is already growing medical marijuana, it has been for a while.

--john

Re:Canada Legalizes Pot

[CubicDDD]

Alcohol is legal, driving while drunk is not. Why do you assume that would be different with other drugs ? Oh, you just ASSUMED it would be legal to drive stoned. -- Then please don't sell it as truth!

The Matrix Cubed

[HanzoSan]

Would be the perfect name for the Matrix Gamecube series of games.

Re:SVCD quicktime

[jnana]

it looks like he's in Chesterfield, MO 63017, lat/lon 38.39n, 90.32w...

So I thought i'd be a karmawhore for a change...

MPEG version please

[yem]

for us poor Sorenson-challenged folk?

Re:MPEG version please

[A_Str8]

And for those of us at work with no Admin rights to install quicktime

Re:MPEG version please

[GlassUser]

Hear hear! I've tried to convert, but my software just ain't happy. I'd even host a little. Just get me the MPEG.

Re:low bandwidth version: rotfl!

[markov_chain]

cat coke | nose > keyboard

Candyman!

[telstar]

Every time I see Laurence Fishburn, I keep waiting for somebody to say "Candyman!"

Re:Candyman!

[telstar]

Every time I see Laurence Fishburn, I keep waiting for somebody to say "Candyman!"

• 
  Then I check IMDB and realize I'm tired and dumb ... not in that order.

Re:Candyman!

[GroovBird]

Well, according to this, Candyman is played by Tony Todd, not Lawrence Fishburn.

Re:Candyman!

[Captain Nitpick]

Every time I see Laurence Fishburn, I keep waiting for somebody to say "Candyman!"

Every time I see Laurence Fishburne, I keep waiting for somebody to say "Howdy, Cowboy Curtis!"

Re:Candyman!

[namespan]

I don't know about that, but "Larry" Fishburne was in one of the best B-movies to ever come out of the 1980s. "Band of the Hand," brought to you by the people who made Miami vice, features a group of juvenille delinquents who are put through an experimental youth survival program in the Florida Everglades by a tough but caring ex-marine. When they move to a halfway house in Miami, "Larry" plays a pimp/dealer who resents them cleaning up the neighborhood. So the ex-marine trains the ex-delinquents in automatic weapons and paramilitary tactics and they clean up the streets. Fantastic stuff.

It's weird, you watch it, and you keep thinking "I should be unhappier with this film, but it's strangely satisfying!"

Re:Candyman!

[mav[LAG]]

Watching Apocalypse Now is almost as unsettling. I'd seen the film I don't know how many times when I suddenly realised that Gunner's Mate 3rd class was a 16-year old Fishburne.

OT

[caca_phony]

Spell "lousy" correctly, please.

It is entirely possible the borg gave him a lice infested t-shirt.

Re:Quicktime + Linux = No Slashdot Effect

[Joe Tie.]

>Err, CmdrTaco mentioned on GIS ages ago that the majority of hits come from IE.

I read slashdot at work. And unfourtunatly we're stuck with internet explorer there. While I use Linux at home, I'd say the majority of my loading slashdot happens sitting at work waiting for other people to finish their work so we can continue on.

I expect quite a few people are in the same situation and combined with opera misidentification and the normal IE users, that'd create a pretty inaccurate representation of what people are really using when given a choice.

An idea about our culture

[Darkninja666]

A comment in the orginal post was "I'm look forward to this more than Star Wars III."

The Matrix is the Star Wars of our generation ....

Re:The Matrix Teaser: Disappointing

[VacheRoi]

My lord! You don't mean to say a Hollywood sequel to a Hollywood movie? One starring Keanu, no less? Craziness!

Re:SVCD quicktime

[c0nman]

http://www2.def-con.org/media/MATRIX_SVCD_JH.rar
and it will be removed in a couple of hours

Re:Goof

[grung0r]

on my matrix dvd box the drip is a mix of letters and wingdings. no kanji involved.

Fishburne = Vader?

[Aash]

Is it just me or is Laurence Fishburne's delivery of the line "it is our destiny" awfully similar to Darth Vader's delivery of the line "it is your destiny" in ESB?

Yes, I've seen the trilogy way too many times.

Get Quicktime (free, standalone installer)

[Mika_Lindman]

That online installer totally fucked up my IE. After reboot I thought I'd post this link for the standalone player to those, who have been smart enough NOT to install this piece of crap before. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone / Can't understand why they use quicktime for the trailer.. Mpeg or Divx would have been a lot better choices.

Re:Get Quicktime (free, standalone installer)

[Mika_Lindman]

Well, this one didn't work for me either.. Still wants to connect to Apple for some bizarre reason, propably to take over my PC and turn it into Apple.
Luckily my offices firewall prevents this and therefore I'm not viewing this trailer.

As soon as someone converts the trailer into some proper format (I'll propably look into it when I get home), please post a link :)

Re:Get Quicktime (free, standalone installer)

[debiangruven]

Use linux and you won't get have to use IE. (Which is way fucked up)

No Trailer...

[NetJunkie]

I just got back from seeing Episode 2, and they didn't show the Matrix trailer here. It was at the Raleigh Grand Theater.

Episode 2 was good. :)

Re:No Trailer...

[billvinson]

They didn't show it at South Point Cinemas in Durham either :(

And, Yes, Episode 2 was good :)

Re:No Trailer...

[mgblst]

I liked ep2 as well, i thought that there would be somewhere on slash to talk about it tho??

Re:No Trailer...

[MysteriesAbound]

Should've gone to Crossroads 20 instead!

That Depends...

[BlackGriffen]

Is it a complex vector space? Or do they insist on real numbers?

BlackGriffen

Re:That Depends...

[Ryan Amos]

Why, the standard basis for C^n, of course!

Re:That Depends...

[number one duck]

Its digital, so I would assume all the numbers are discrete at some level.

Names

[BoBaBrain]

How about "The Matrix Too: Piracy Issues".

Don't tell me the agents went to all that effort building realtime a virtual world, but didn't have a hot backup ready.

Re:Episode Three

[edwdig]

I said I could see how it wouldn't be appealing to some people, but that I personally am curious as to how it will work out.

Obligatory 'spot the soundtrack' geekishness

[ringbarer]

And if you've got the Aliens soundtrack, you'll notice a track right at the end that doesn't appear in the film. "Resolution / Hyperspace", I think it's called. But that's OK, as it turns up at the end of Die Hard instead. Even though Michael Kamen did the rest of the music for that one.

Re:SVCD quicktime

[mnordstr]

And you had to pack it in rar?!
From all the formats, you had to choose the one that doesn't come with my RedHat distro...

Starring: GM

[instinctdesign]

GM must have struck a deal with the producers. The majority of the cars shown are GM, including the new CTS (silver one, gets blown up unfortunately... I coulda gone for one of those) and the cops are Chevrolet Impalas. I think the car flipping over onto the CTS is an Olds, not 100% sure though and I'm not sure about the overturned SVU (don't much care for SUVs...).

Sorry, this is what happens when you are a car guy. ;) </mindless babble>

Re:Starring: GM

[GlenRaphael]

GM must have struck a deal with the producers. The majority of the cars shown are GM, including the new CTS (silver one, gets blown up unfortunately... I coulda gone for one of those) and the cops are Chevrolet Impalas.

All of the featured cars are GM. But there are also a lot of background cars that are pretty much whatever the people who worked as extras felt like bringing. (Me, I brought a silver civic, and I think you can actually see a tiny bit of my car at a long distance during one scene of the trailer.)

The boneyard was something to see -- they destroyed at least 40 cars making the film. They had two or three copies of every "significant" car so that if one got messed up they could just tow it away and do another take with the next one. They had about seven of the silver CTS, all with the same carefully duplicated bullet holes in each.

Re:SVCD quicktime

[Anonymous Coward]

try here if you want to get a bz2'd rather than weird rar'd copy.

Movie Trailer Music

[Soulslayer]

For all those people looking for the title of a song that is used for 2 tenths of a second in a trailer... ...try here.

Trilogy of trilogies?!?

[turbomonkey2k]

More importantly it is an epic, a trilogy of trilogy's(sic).
I think you mean a pair of trilogies.

Re:Trilogy of trilogies?!?

[SpryGuy]

I think you mean a pair of trilogies.

Actually, he had stated he envisioned nine movies, or a trilogy of trilogies. He's since given up on ever doing the final three movies. He released authors to write books about that part of the saga when he started work on Episode I.

[MINOR SPOILERSS}

[Soulslayer]

The guy (actually there are several of them) in the white dreadlocks is one of the "Viruses" which if I remember correctly were created by the Matrix to defeat Neo and the resistance, but mutate on their own and now threaten everyone, including the Matrix itself.

Also in the movie are "The Twins" which are a pair of Neo-like super guards for some CEO in the virtual real world.

Gnu/Matrix

[mec]

Gnu/Matrix ... finally, a platform powerful enough for emacs!

Re:Gnu/Matrix

[Ivan Raikov]

Gnu/Matrix ...

Thanks, now I'll have nightmares of RMS dressed in leather and wearing sunglasses...

Opening of Starwars = Trailer

[Nashirak]

Yes!!! The matrix reloaded trailer is with the Star wars Episode 2 previews. It kicks butt! (Along with Episode 2). :)

DIVX! Re:SVCD quicktime

[Anonymous Coward]

I cropped it and encoded that into divx:-D
9.4M MATRIX_SVCD_JH.avi
27M MATRIX_SVCD_JH.mpg
go transcode
http://169.226.225.80/~justin/m/MATRIX_SVCD_JH.avi will be up for a bit someone else mirror it hehe
note: don't even bother trying that link after 5/17
-Justin

Having just seen Episode 2...

[athlon02]

I think I'd rather see Episode 3, I'm very curious how Lucas is going to top himself.

Re:Having just seen Episode 2...

[AngryAndDrunk]

I'm very curious how Lucas is going to top himself.

So, bad film, then? Even so, I don't think it's necessary for the guy to commit suicide...

Quicktime exploded at the end

[Sits]

I just rebooted into Windows to watch the trailer and then just at the end when it was putting up 2003 it made a long beeeeep then crashed with a Program Exception. These trailers become more inventive all the time!

Re:Quicktime exploded at the end

[quintessent]

Ah, but you only perceived a Program Exception. The reality is much more profound.

you haven't seen the trailer yet...

[turbomonkey2k]

... just the teaser. Don't worry though, about 3 or 4 months before the release you'll get to see the trailer that you don't want. Actually, as teasers go, this one was far more revealing than say: the Spiderman teaser which had little more than a spiderweb and a logo.

Re:First productive post?

[3.5 stripes]

Nona Gaye, daughter of Marvin Gaye...

What is progressive.stream?

[Codeala]

IMHO, some interesting info from netcraft.com:

=-=-=
The site progressive.stream.aol.com is running Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_perl/ 1.21 ApacheJServ/1.1 on Solaris 8.
=-=-=

It is streaming a 24MB videos while being linked on /. frontpage, and it is still going after ~3hrs. Now that is reliability!

Episode II

[UTPinky]

I might also mention that the trailer was shown at the beginning of Episode II. (just got back)

Look forward to both

[jdavidb]

Must say I'm looking forward to this far more than I'm looking forward to Episode 3.

Obviously cheinonen hasn't seen Episode II yet. Go see it just for the Matrix trailer; you'll gladly stay for the movie.

Re:Episode Three

[dsb]

the mod trolls come out tonight!

strange indeed

Car / overpass shots

[fahrvergnugen]

Many of the shots in the trailer are clearly identifiable as having been shot at the former airbase in Alameda, CA., an island off the coast of Oakland, across the bay from San Francisco. The view of San Francisco is breathtaking from the airbase end of the island.

• 
  The shots are:
  
• Trinity stopping the shot up car at the 47-48 second time marker
  
• flipping car at 51 seconds
  
• Morpheus with sword at 52-53 seconds
  
• jump stunt followed by rolling SUV at 55 seconds (quick flashes)
  
• Morpheus with gun and explosion at 56 seconds
  

There's some large soundstages there, built from old airplane hangars, all owned by EON Productions, the Wachowski's company. During the Matrix 2 shoot they had the logo for Burlyman, the Matrix films' working title, emblazoned on them, and signs sprang up around town that simply said "BURLY" on them, followed by an arrow.

Near the hangar soundstages, a set was built on a vacant paved area next to the coast of the island. A mock freeway, sturdy enough to drive many cars on, pointed towards downtown San Francisco but ended hanging in space at an incline. (you can see the Bay Bridge in the background of some of the aforementioned shots) When standing on the freeway set, it would appear to lead straight into downtown San Francisco. To add the appearance of "realism," there was a highway sign proclaiming, "Palo Alto 7 miles." Palo Alto's about 30 miles from San Francisco. Whatever.

Anyway, the set was really amazing to see, and since it was right next to public property (the local skate park) you could walk out and take pictures of the set, and the various prop cars (including most of the ones in the trailer) parked in the lot around it. There were always a few guys out firing off cameras when I went by. The set was taken down very quickly, shortly after filming completed and all the "Burly" signs came down.

Also interesting to note is that some of the car chases were filmed in downtown Oakland and in the tunnel between Alameda & Oakland (causing a nasty traffic snarl one Saturday morning). The tunnel is notorious for being covered in grime, and is in fact so filthy that grafitti artists will come in with squeegies and start cleaning their tags into the walls. Even after the truck comes through and washes the walls off once every quarter, the tags are always just a little cleaner than the rest of the walls.

The most prolific of these taggers is apparently known as "wetso," and on Friday night before filming he had his name writ large toward one end of the (fairly recently cleaned) tunnel. I'm very curious to see if it survives into any of the final shots in the finished film. Go Wetso.

Re:Car / overpass shots

[rbeattie]

Holy crap! I had forgotten this email I got exactly a year ago tomorrow from a friend of mine named Will:

I just spent all day as a driver on the film set of the Matrix II in
Alameda. My girlfriend was signed up with an agency and somehow we
both got invitations to be drivers today. They have this unbelievable
1.5 mile long 'fake highway' built on the abandoned air landing
strips at Alameda Naval Station. There were about 50 drivers, and
basically our job was to drive alongside or in the opposite lane
while they were filming to make it look like real traffic on the
highway. We got paid $100 for the day but also a lunch of lobster
tails and filet mignon. The first Matrix movie made $450 million, so
it's not surprising that they have a massive budget to film the
sequel. Anyway, if you see Matrix II when it comes out next year,
keep an eye out for me in a silver Pathfinder.. I'm bound to be in
there somewhere!

I'll have to review the trailer (when it's not slashdotted) to see if I can see the Pathfinder...

-Russ

Re:Car / overpass shots

[daeley]

Alameda... wasn't that where the 'nuclear wessels' were? :)

Re:Car / overpass shots

[GlenRaphael]

I just spent all day as a driver on the film set of the Matrix II in Alameda. My girlfriend was signed up with an agency and somehow we both got invitations to be drivers today.

The agency that lined up the people on this is Beau Bonneau casting. If you're in the SF Bay Area and have a flexible work schedule it's worth getting on their list; you have to pay $20 and get your picture taken to be in their database. Just last month they sent out a call for extras to work on some scenes from the forthcoming Incredible Hulk movie.

Your friend must have been called in on a Friday; they only had the lobster and filet mignon on Fridays. Not that the food was bad any other day, mind you.

There were about 50 drivers, and basically our job was to drive alongside or in the opposite lane while they were filming to make it look like real traffic on the highway.

For a few scenes they called in more than a hundred drivers but 50 was about normal.

In the shot where Trinity is driving the Ducati motorbike past a wreck with lots of smoke, police cars and men in orange vests in the background, I'm pretty sure my car is on screen, but it's way on the far right of the shot, just a tiny rectangle next to a police car.

To add the appearance of "realism," there was a highway sign proclaiming, "Palo Alto 7 miles." Palo Alto's about 30 miles from San Francisco. Whatever.

They changed the signs regularly and shot at different angles such that that mile-and-a-half of freeway will look like it was shot all over the Bay Area. All the signs refer to actual places, but the distances are nonsense.

Anyway, the set was really amazing to see, and since it was right next to public property (the local skate park) you could walk out and take pictures of the set, and the various prop cars (including most of the ones in the trailer) parked in the lot around it.

The prop cars usually had the keys left in the ignition. One weekend one of the security guards took a prop car and tried to see how fast he could go, causing an actual crash on that fake freeway. Another some gusty winds caused a section of freeway wall to fall over. Since they didn't have time to fix it, they just parked a truck on the shoulder such that it blocked the camera's view through the hole and shot around it.

Spiffy

[forgoil]

Looks to be watchable and entertaining.

I just wish trailers could have surround ^_^

Well

[saqmaster]

It looks pretty cool.

It doesn't look a whole lot different from the first one. I hope they just don't take the fighting sections from the first and make a full length feature from it. It _has_ to be a great sequel.

The slash has you.

High-Res Mirror

[rkohutek]

There is a mirror available of the high-res video located below:

ftp://files.rand0m.org/videos/reloaded_teaser_1_ 64 0.mov

I'm the opposite way

[CAIMLAS]

After seeing Ep2 early this morning in the theatre (and being incredibly impressed for the most part - expectations far exceeded. Lucas may live another season!), I'm looking forward to Ep3 as I did Ep1 before I heard anything about it and saw the sucky trailers, etc. :)

As has already been said, The Matrix: Reloaded looks like it might just be another actionish movie w/o the philosophy that helped make The Matrix cool. In my mind, sure, the philosophy and weird scifi made The Matrix cool, but let's face it. It'd have been a pretty weak ending without the revolutionary action at the end. THAT is what made The Matrix totally haul ass. Now that everyone has seen The Matrix almost 100 times each, and there have been dozens of 'immitation' movies, employing the same stop action photography, the effect is somewhat passe, and not all that nifty. I suspect Reloaded will be nothing more than an additional chapter with more action and little real plot development. Like Star Wars Ep1 - 3, we already know basically what's going to happen. We don't need basic plot - we need indepth plot (which, I feel, Ep2 provided fairly well, overall), otherwise it'll be dull and not all that interesting.

I got enough purely action films from the 80's and early 90's, like Terminator. Give me a good solid plot, please, and make it stimulating.

But I s'pose that's asking too much. Episode 1, for instance, got cheers throughout. Episode 2 (being substantially longer - I clocked somewhere around 2 hours 15 minutes) didn't really get much enthusiasm in the theatre I went to at all. I don't understand people.

um, wow

[spectatorion]

i am tingling. one year seems like way too much time. i cannot wait. star wars tomorrow, done with exams, new matrix teaser, plus the above comment that new effects are supposed to be even more amazing that bullet time. i am still blown away every time i watch that insanity on the roof between neo and the agent, although it was recently brought to my attention (in light of the reported spiderman inconsistencies) that when the camera is zooming around neo, all the weapons, bodies, and debris are gone from the roof, but they reappear afterwards. i guess nobody is perfect, but i certainly did not notice it when i saw it the first time in the theaters. anyway, i cannot wait for this new matrix to usher in another new era of computer effects in movies. whether or not the matrix originated these effects it was the first i know of to use them throughout the film and to do them so damned well. it was just insane, and if the next two are as good as they say, i might just get in line tomorrow for tix...

The Matrix is one of the few films...

[Spytap]

...willing to push some boundaries.
It attacked Sci-Fi when Sci-Fi (with a few notable exceptions in Star Wars and Terminator) was not considered a viable genre.
It brought Hong Kong style action and anime inspired cinematography to the masses, when both were considered to be niche markets at best.
It pushed the limits of technology and special effects going so far as to invent proprietary techniques to better show off the ideas of the filmmakers (yes, Bullet time was invented for the Matrix and is a trademarked and patented technique. It was first seen in a Gap commercial as a sort of technology test to see how audiences would react, but was created entirely for and because of the Matrix).
It was willing to have a complex and highbrow storyline that was dark and brooding while still being fun and exciting.
It was also, and maybe most importantly, a test in trust from the studio to the filmmakers. They were given a lot of leeway in developing and making this movie. They were allowed to market it in the way they saw fit and rack up a huge expense bill to make sure that it was as good at they saw it in their heads. It led to other films being made under trust (decidedly rare in Hollywood), such as the filming of all three Lord of the Rings movies at once and letting Spiderman be directed by Sam Raimi of Evil Dead fame (kind of a contrast there) and played by Tobey McGuire who is more known as an arty actor than an audience drawing teen hunk.

Overall I trust these sequels because of how well The Matrix was done the first time around. I have confidence that it will be as esoteric and interesting as the first, while still kicking ass. I also appreciate them for the changes that the first brought about to the movie industry, and hope that these lead to more in the same direction. As a film major, I can only hope that there are more mass movies made to the same caliber as The Matrix, LOTR, and Spider-Man and hope to see these sequels as another catalyst for change. I also hope to be able to leave the theater with the same sense of awe and adrenaline that the first left me with.

Here's to hoping.

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[diabolus_in_america]

You are giving The Matrix way too much credit, especially in the ways you claim it has affected change in Hollywood.

The connections you claim between The Matrix and both the Lord of the Rings trilogy and Spider-Man are simply not valid. The filming of all three LotR movies at one time was simply done for financial reasons. Peter Jackson has said in numerous interviews that it would not have been possible to make the trilogy one movie at a time. It got green-lighted by the studio because of cost, not because of trust.

As for Spider-Man, I don't think The Matrix had anything to do with who directed it, nor who starred in it. Sam Raimi, regardless of his Evil Dead fame, had a vision for Spider-Man that the studio agreed with and which they believed would make them a ton of money. Raimi has also done much more than Evil Dead, such as movies like For the Love of the Game starring Kevin Costner. Nothing The Matrix did got Raimi the Spider-Man job, he earned it himself.

And as for you comments about Tobey Maguire being more of an art-house actor, you are correct. Tobey does have pretty good range for an actor, but again, how did the producers of The Matrix have anything whatsoever to do with his being cast as Peter Parker? I mean, they cast Keanu Reeves in The Matrix!! If anything, that should have prompted the makers of Spider-Man to pick some stiff and painfully awkward and dull actor!!
The makers of Spider-Man may have gone out on a limb, so to speak, in choosing Tobey Maguire for the lead, but they did so of their own accord. Not because of The Matrix.

It was a great flick, but without the special F/X, it would have been pretty hard to watch.

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[TheCrazyFinn]

And the film Black Mask was before the Gap Commercial too. Bullet Time was invented by the Warshowski brothers, and they have been perfecting it for years.

The Crazy Finn

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[hilker]

It attacked Sci-Fi when Sci-Fi (with a few notable exceptions in Star Wars and Terminator) was not considered a viable genre.

And Independence Day, and Men in Black, and Armageddon, and Jurassic Park, and Total Recall, and Back to the Future Part II. Seems to me that in the ten years that preceded the release of The Matrix, there was a sci-fi movie among the top ten highest-grossing films just about every year. If people didn't consider sci-fi viable, they were not paying attention.

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[UberOogie]

Oh lord. Not another one of them. And enough zombies to mod that ball of lies up as insightful.

...willing to push some boundaries.

If, by that, you mean steal some cliches, then yes.

It attacked Sci-Fi when Sci-Fi (with a few notable exceptions in Star Wars and Terminator) was not considered a viable genre.

Welcome to the real world, where there were at least five big budget sci0fi films released that year.

It brought Hong Kong style action and anime inspired cinematography to the masses, when both were considered to be niche markets at best.

You mean, right when Jackie Chan was making a big splash for the first time in America?

(yes, Bullet time was invented for the Matrix and is a trademarked and patented technique...

It existed at least four years before.

It was willing to have a complex and highbrow storyline that was dark and brooding while still being fun and exciting.

Oh god, the laughter pain. The plot was paper-thin, the set up unbelievable. It is the kind of thing that first year philosophy students discuss while stoned.

such as the filming of all three Lord of the Rings movies at once...

No. That was a money-saving issue. It had been done at least a decade before with Back To The Future.

directed by Sam Raimi of Evil Dead fame

This had more to do with Raimi's other body of work.

Overall I trust these sequels because of how well The Matrix was done the first time around. I have confidence that it will be as esoteric and interesting as the first, while still kicking ass.

Why don't you tell us how it gets your whites whiter and had improved your sex life. You sound like a $cientologist.

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[cying]

These above mentioned effects shots (Gap commercial, etc.) are very different from The Matrix's bullet-time effects from a technological standpoint. Look at my previous comment if you want to learn more. (Note: The relation to Dr. Debevec's work is actually more loosely related than I had first mentioned.)

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[meehawl]

It pushed the limits of technology and special effects going so far as to invent proprietary techniques to better show off the ideas of the filmmakers (yes, Bullet time was invented for the Matrix and is a trademarked and patented technique. It was first seen in a Gap commercial as a sort of technology test to see how audiences would react, but was created entirely for and because of the Matrix).

Oh right, then I guess that freeze-frame three-D stuff I saw in pop music videos from the Rolling Stones (Michael Gondry) and Orbital was just a figment of my imagination. Or the similar slow bullet dodge thing in Blade? Or the way the physical landscape in Dark CIty was psychically mutable?

The Matrix, like most great sci-fi movies, was an accomplished pastiche of several cutting edge style trends, but it borrowed heavily from less-successful or non-genre precursors. You can see it in Bladerunner, how it borrows heavily in mood, scenes, and dialogue from the earlier PI movie Klute with Donald Sutherland and Jane Fonda.

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[kylearin]

It was a Sting video. Don't know which, though.

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[flauntbaby]

This is a minor flame-able post 'cuz I don't have any sources. Actually, "bullet time" was invented by a french company that was aiming for interactive tv for sports broadcasts. The idea is that hundreds of cameras would be positioned around a stadium so that the tv viewser could control the angle that was seen onscreen. The Matrix simply used this technology to it's fullest artistic effect.

Re:The Matrix is one of the few films...

[Spytap]

To correct a little bit, LOTR was done all at once for budget reasons, yes. It was easier to do all of them in one fell swoop as well as it kept all of the actors looking the same age and weight overall, which is always a concern.
Now it was greenlighted by the studio as an excercise in trust. If you've ever dealt with a studio, as I do in my day to day life, you would realize that control is a term expected by them, not easily given away. With the production so far along, had Fellowhip bombed, they would have been fucked in an enormous way. The Matrix is credited by everyone throughout the filmmaking community as one of the big movies which pushed the studios to release their stranglehold on creative control and let a little more of it towards the artists.

As for Spider-Man, I wish you knew what you were talking about. The script was finished long before Raimi was ever involved and save a few minor rewrites it was handed to him as is. He chose to take it in the direction that he did with the actors he chose more than anything else. The plot was already there for him for the most part. He took control of the way it was done however, fighting the studios for control of how the special effects were done and seen as well as who the actors he chose were. If you remember for a while, ben affleck was the studio's choice for the lead role, followed by Paul Walker. They chose Tobey because he had final say over artistic control.
In fact, Raimi has stated in interviews that were it not for two movies, Spider-Man would never have been made the way it was. Those movies were Fight Club and The Matrix. From his own mouth.
I was never saying that because of the matrix, all these decisons were made, adn if you read my post you will see that, but that it allowed artistic control to be seen not as a curse, but a blessing among studio films. Studios are very very bossy about what they want to see and why, so for them to back off even a little is a huge deal. The Matrix paved the way by showing how successful a film can be when a little more money is thrown in, and the artists are allowed to control their craft.

Oh and for the record, Bullet Time is not a tecnique, it is a very very sophisticated computer program which allows those effects to be used in an incredibly precise manner. The old trick of firing off cameras all at once has been used in the past, but Bullet Time is a proprietary computer program designed originally for The Matrix. It is a trademarked and copyrighted and leased to other movies such as Charlie's Angels and whatnot, and a license fee was even payed by Shrek for their little joke about it.

Anyways, that's my peace from someone constantly surrounded by the movie industry, feel free to take it however you wish.

So Keanu took some martial arts classes

[HaveBlue34]

...I hope he took some acting classes too.

HB

Re:damn...

[peddrenth]

I would have thought it would be safe from slashdotting -- none of us linux people can open the file!

Is $30 for quicktime on linux more useful than $30 for OEM dual-boot windows with free quicktime player?

Another Fishburne Role

[Mignon]

"Larry" Fishburne was Cowboy Curtis on Pee-Wee's Playhouse, the TV show on CBS that ran some 10 years ago. That was where I first saw him, so it always tripped me out to see him in serious roles.

A.I.'s and clustering brains

[Xenophon Fenderson,]

That's actually a pretty good idea that at least one other author worked into his stories. In Dan Simmons' Hyperion novels, all humans have neural implants allowing them to access computational and communication resources directly, and it turns out that the A.I.'s "live" in the unused storage capacity of the human minds that are networked in. It is chilling, to say the least, as the A.I.'s want to remove any autonomy from the humans, and in fact, the A.I.'s destroy Earth and do lots of other Really Bad Things before the Forces of Good show up to kick some ass.

And one of these days I'll have to finish reading the series! :)

Re:A.I.'s and clustering brains

[daeley]

And one of these days I'll have to finish reading the series! :)

Run, don't walk, to Amazon.com or meatspace store and get those books immediately. You won't regret it.

Thinking of The Shrike still gives me shivers.

i'm sorry...

[suougibma]

ayo yayo, walk around with yayo, all in my nasal, i musta been crazed yo

she don't lie, she don't lieee... cocaine

Not trying to steal the thunder.

[Performer Guy]

Since this trailer was in front of the Star Wars AOTC movie I saw (in California) I'd guess that the web release merely coincides with the theatrical release of the trailer, which in turn is released to advertise with AOTC rather than steal any thunder.

Linux RAR Utilities

[Self Bias Resistor]

If you need a RAR utility for Linux, check this page on Tucows.

Re:Linux RAR Utilities

[moyix]

...Never mind that none of those utilities is actually able to unrar this particular rar file. :( anyone feel like hosting a [b | g]zipped version of this?

ultra-mega-mega-uber coolness?

[tomstdenis]

Hehehe, wow, that trailer sucked ass bigtime. I mean I could make a better trailer half tied to the outside of a speeding train.

w00t w00t!

Tom

The trailer I saw

[rosewood]

Well, I saw Ep2 and this trailer was there. The theatre I was in was DLP so this trailer was as well. The big fat Green preview aproved for all audience screens was flawless - ... however, that was about the only thing I noticed - and after talking to may people, the masses dont notice scratches

also, brand new projector and re-done sound system cut out in this trailer

I got the whole theater to laugh cause when it says 2003 I said "2k3? Thats when the sound will work" -- Yea, Im proud of myself

PS - Where is the official talk about SWEP2 thread? I saw the movie 4 hours ago and can't sleep right now so I wanna talk about this shit!

this trailer has me more curious than SW:AOTC

[f00zbll]

But then again, I am biased. The W brothers have been daring and have great visual skills. Their ability to visualize the entire world and how it plays out is above the average director/producer. Plus the use of comic artists in their story boards in no doubt contributes greatly to the final product the audience sees.

Re:Quicktime + Linux = No Slashdot Effect

[mark_lybarger]

as more and more of us are laid off/out of work due to off shore development efforts, the /. browser numbers will then be a more accurate representation of what people "like to use".

then again, maybe we'll eventually find something else to do. or maybe mozilla/konqueror/opera really aren't our favorite browsers? (at least mozilla is available for those windows desktops)

Ugh, meaning?

[MagPulse]

Morpheus talks about the meaning of life.. I thought the Matrix taught us that our lives are our own, and no one can tell us what to do with them, not even fate or ourselves?

Re:So now the MPAA is good again?

[AntiNorm]

You sing the songs of those whose movies you buy, remember that. I don't wanna hear another whine about copy protection or elbow tactics.

Of course the MPAA is good right now. This is Thursday! We'll hate the MPAA tomorrow.

2 movies in 2003?

[{tele}machus_*1]

I know The Matrix Reloaded is coming out in 2003, but what is The Matrix Revolutions? Is that the name of the third movie? Is the third movie scheduled to come out in 2003 also?

Re:2 movies in 2003?

[anderman]

Yes.

Reloaded summer 2003
Revolutions november 2003

trailer question in general

[argStyopa]

OK, I understand that the trailers are made with a movie audience and TV commercials in mind, where you have X seconds to fill... BUT:
Could some kind /.er please explain to me why it seems that every 1 minute QT trailer on the net seems to have 10 seconds of title track at the front end and 15 seconds of static title crap at the back end? If you're pumping 24 megs of a 640x480 trailer over the net, wouldn't it be a commercially sound decision to chop 10 of those megs off and reduce the time it takes to d/l said trailer? Won't that mean more of them are distributed/seen? Maybe I just don't 'get it'.

Re:trailer question in general

[BubbaFett]

Compression should take care of that.

Re:trailer question in general

[radish]

Assuming the videos are encoded with something "mpeg-like" then the static screens will use up virtually zero bandwidth. They compress by working out deltas from one frame to the next, static image == no differences == perfect compression.

Easter egg?

[Feng]

God that clip is going to give me an epileptic seizure if I keep watching it.

Did anyone notice what was written on the truck in the bit where the car flips over in the freeway? It's "Big Endian... (something)".

There must be a sizeable number of geeks in the crew!

Re:Easter egg?

[demon]

It says "BIG ENDIAN EGGS".

Re:Easter egg?

[Feng]

Do-h!

Re:First productive post?

[schon]

Considering Aaliyah died in a plane crash last year, it's unlikely she's going to appear in a movie that was shooting at the time.

Why? It didn't stop them from using her in that godawful vampire movie. (About the only redeeming feature it had was "Tom Cruise wasn't in it" :o)

Seriously, yes, they re-cast her part in the Matrix sequels (apparently the Watchkowsky brothers aren't the whores that Michael Rymer is.)

Matrix vs. Neuromancer

[theolein]

William Gibson's Neuromancer series (Neuromancer, Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive) were AKAIK *the* stories that kicked off what we know as "Cyberpunk" or modern dark, high-tech, low-life science fiction. I personally have reread the books dozens of times andhave dearly wished that someone would make an excellent movie rendition of them, unlike the piss poor "Johnny Mnemonic" movie with a poor storyline and, ironically, Keanu Reeves doing his best to save the story from total loss.

I think that the makers of the matrix would have made an excellent rendition of Neuromancer and still could, and I wish that there would be massive support for this.

Not really right

[(void*)]

Some dudes go to a mountain to throw the ring into the pit. The ring gets snatched, but the thief and ring falls in.

Re:Quicktime + Linux = No Slashdot Effect

[srichman]

It's got to be downloaded somehow, right? Er, moron?

Er, CrossOver?

Re:damn...

[Kwikymart]

Who needs a quicktime player? Do the people outside the matrix have the ability to render the matrix when they hack in? Of course not! They have to look at the raw code. After a while, remember, its all just blond, brunette, redhead. Open the quicktime file in your favorite text editor and watch it that way.

Re:Episode Three

[Bedouin X]

Uhhhh that's in Episode 2 buddy...

Which BTW just happened to kick all breeds of ass...

Re:So now the MPAA is good again?

[ShavenYak]

Of course the MPAA is good right now. This is Thursday! We'll hate the MPAA tomorrow.

Oh, that's it? I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

Not quicktime

[Baloo Ursidae]

Any trailers converted to Not Quicktime(tm)?

Related Article

[hether]

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue264/news.html

Matrix II Images Posted

Time magazine has posted the first images from The Matrix Reloaded, the much-anticipated sequel to The Matrix. The magazine also offered a few details about the first of two sequels and reported that a teaser trailer for Reloaded should hit the Web soon.

Among the spoilery details the magazine reported from the Sydney, Australia, set of Reloaded and the third film, The Matrix Revolutions: Agent Smith (Hugo Weaving) will be able to replicate himself; Reloaded takes place in the world of the Matrix, while Revolutions is set in the real world; and viewers will visit the underground city of Zion. Larry and Andy Wachowski return to direct the two sequels. Reloaded comes out in May 2003; Revolutions in either August or November of next year.

Putting the "science" back in "science fiction"

[npsimons]

The Matrix, much like Star Wars, is really a fantasy movie that's trying to tell a story that's almost wholly removed from science fiction (in the traditional "fiction with loads of science in it" sense).

Finally! I thought I was the only one noticing this disturbing trend; namely that "science fiction" is becoming more "fiction" and less "science". Not that I don't mind a good fantasy every once in a while, but come on, science can be entertaining too.

Am I one of the few people who thoroughly enjoyed Greg Egan's "Diaspora" and other books like it because it heaps on the science with no apologies? Why can't we have more good movies with a better basis in reality?

Re:Putting the "science" back in "science fiction"

[jafac]

come on, wake up. Science fiction, at least in it's cinematic form, has nothing at all to do with science. Never has, in all likelyhood, never will.

Name ONE sci-fi movie or tv show (other than B5) where space ships actually obeyed the BASIC laws of physics (with regard to acceleration, reaction thrusters, etc).
Even B5 ignores a lot of physics, like - the impossibility of gravity on some of the ships - attributing it to some alien technology, or centrifugal force caused by impossibly slow rotation.

Re:Putting the "science" back in "science fiction"

[npsimons]

come on, wake up. Science fiction, at least in it's cinematic form, has nothing at all to do with science. Never has, in all likelyhood, never will.

Ah, thank you for clearing that up for me. I haven't watched TV for a long time (don't have TV anymore) and don't go to very many movies any more either. I have found decent enough sci-fi in good authors, and I suppose now that my worst fears have been confirmed, I will continue to do so.

Re:Putting the "science" back in "science fiction"

[MrDolby]

I can only think of one movie,
2001: A Space Odessey.

I can't sepll!!

Re:Putting the "science" back in "science fiction"

[DarkZero]

It isn't a "disturbing trend", at least not a new one. There's always been a subsection of science fiction that deals more with the fiction than with the science. It's existed at least as long as comic books and the adventures of Flash Gordon and his ilk. And personally, I don't have a problem with it. There's a place for both bullshit science fiction and science fiction, just like there's a place for both bullshit historical fiction (almost any fantasy novel) and historical fiction. Both can have very potent and interesting ideas.

Neo's powers

[Magius_AR]

I'm still trying to figure out how they're going to justify the fact that Neo is already practically a god in the matrix.

Magius_AR

No one can be told ...

[Wordsmith]

No one can be told what the matrix is.
You must download quicktime to see it.

DivX 5.0 version available now

[Mika_Lindman]

This is not official release of this teaser. Just something I made 'cause I have no life.

Get it here

Cheasy New Icon for the Matrix

[egommer]

If you are looking for to The Matix more than Star then why Wars then why does Star Wars have it's own News group icon? The Matrix has changed the way movies are made today. Yet it has a cheasy generic Icon. How many geeks know that there is no spoon?

Re:Cheasy New Icon for the Matrix

[Erik Fish]

The Matrix has changed the way movies are made today.

Care to back that up? Oh that's right, you can't because it's bullshit!

I'm confused...

[flauntbaby]

... is this the Matrix #2 or the Matrix #5?

Mark Hamill

[MenTaLguY]

Mark Hamill has a really wonderful career as a voice actor, actually.

Jason Bentey working on film tracks again...

[cliveholloway]

According to this, it looks like Jason Bentley, who chose the music for the last film, is also working on the music for the next two.

So it will be another kick ass soundtrack when it does get released.

cLive ;-)