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Pirogoeth writes "The fine folks over at Engadget have figured out how to get your new iPod Photo to play movies. According to the article, you use Quicktime Pro to export the movie as thousands of individual frames which you export to the iPod, send the soundtrack to the iPod as well, then, if you haven't guessed by now, while playing the soundtrack, put the iPod into slideshow mode and use the scroll wheel to manually keep the frames in synch with the sound. Sound impossible? Here's a video (in mov or wmv) of the Episode III trailer in action..."
Because it seems like all of their articles end up here.
In the Engadget Podcast the other day they discussed the idea of having Picture Podcasts. Where at certain points during a podcast they could have a way to display a picture on "picture" supported audio players (ipod, iriver, etc). I thought it was an very very cool idea, I don't have a photo ipod or any of the others, but it would be a neat feature if i had one.
Kyle
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Or you could just buy somthing that can play both video and audio. Like a PDA or one of the many portable media centers on the market. This is like saying that your printer can play movies if you print out each frame and then flip through them.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
--Chag
This has got to be a bandwidth test.
Why doesn't Apple just send out an update to do same? Seems obvious to me.
Did we just slashdot his iPod?
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All you do is put the car in neutral, grab a buddy and stand behind the car. Then, placing your hands on the rear bumper...push. Scientists believe it's such a simple process we may all be getting around in these miracle cars any day now!
Not having enough cash for an Ipod - I'm going to use this idea with my 35mm slide projector.
Are all these "innovations" a sign that iPod is in need of a breakthrough? There are more portable players out there with more functions, and I wonder how long will Apple fans stick to it?
For example, the new Creative's Zen Micro has FM, is someone going to pre-record some radio talk shows and put it into iPod pretending that it's doing radio too?
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
Sound impossible?
No, Just stupid.
Geesh. Why not just print all the frames out onto paper and make a flipbook?
If you want a video player in an iPod's form factor, either sit tight for 2 years until a honest-to-goodness Video iPod to come out, or buy a Gmini 200 (Flash page).
I chose the latter and haven't looked back.
Why does apple even put it on there anymore?
its annoying as fuck, and as soon as i got my 3G pod it was muted.
I hope you die painfully and alone.
Here's a video (in mov or wmv) of the Episode III trailer in action...
...which can be played on an iPod, which someone can make a movie of... which can be played on another iPod, which...
play movies too.
I had to flip the pages and hum the soundtrack, but the hand-drawn stick figure animations were outstanding.
Can't you read? It says iPod right there in the subject line.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
...for Engadget, compliments of ptorrone?
My Etch-a-sketch plays doom3 the same way. And I ALWAYS win.
If I wrote something witty, you would say I stole it from somewhere.
I've determined a hack to make my original 20 gig iPod play holographic content in surround sound with no additional hardware needed!
Four hits of acid and stare really hard. Much more elegant (by orders of magnitude) and less of a brute force approach than TFA.
What is more likely?
1) The new color iPod does not have video because the hardware can't support it.
2) Apple does not have a way to sell movies and videos on iTunes.
The Internet is full. Go Away!!!
You could just buy a portable video player that does everything the iPod does and more for about the same price.
Another victim not reading the Do-Not-Slashdot ACT 1996
Coral link here.
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
Mod me as a troll of you wish, but I'm not trolling.
I think the fact that so soon after the new ipod comes out people are brute forcing it to play movies is a demonstration that Apple may be losing its direction in innovation
I'm an avid digital photographer, and in almost all of the photo boards I hang out on, the opinion of the photo ipod was generally disappointing. How hard would it have been to put a freakin CF card reader in it? How hard would it have been to enable movie playback in at least ONE format?
The ipod was helped in its jump to the top by the fact that it was innovative, so much so that people were willing to ignore its high price tag. Apple missed two big opportunities on this one; movie playback AND easy storage transfer from camera media.
I'm not buying a photo ipod now, but I would've in a second if it had those two features. Apple, I hope this is an isolated incident.Let's get one thing perfectly clear, I did not vote for George W Bush, and I do not endorse what he does or says.
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I have another great solution. This one is time tested and will not drain your batteries.
Step 1.Print all the individual frames to paper
Step 2.Animate!
Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard disk?
Mirrordot mirrors of the movies: Quicktime and WMV
How the hell can you scroll a porn movie, hold a kleenex and rub the lamp at the same time?
printf($randomline(sigs.txt) \n "-- "$randomline(authors.txt));
-- myself
You could take the individual frames and print them onto paper. Then you could use it as a flip book and play the soundtrack on your computer. The only problem is that we'll pretty much wipe out a whole forest just to run one movie.
It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
What's worse, this, or someone with a fucking free iPod link in their .sig? Hasn't that horrible, horrible fad burned out yet?
Am I the only one who does not need this feature? I listen to my iPod when I'm on the train, when I'm walking somewhere, or when I'm working out.. all of these activities require using your eyes, so watching video is out of the question. Am in the minority here?
This sounded so really ridiculous, I had to read it again. Then, it seemed even more so :) I laughed so loud I hope the neighbors didn't think I went nuts :D
:D Oh, come on :)
:D
So really, this is something a regular sane fellas would do with their iPods
You even can grab a dead cat and pull it with a piece of rope, but it won't run, even if you mew in the process
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
Sorry for the AC, but I hate registering even for good things like /.
As far as this goes "ipod and video" goes, didn't Jobs already specifically say that the iPod isn't already supporting video because of battery life?
Look, this hack is neat just for being geek cool, but seriously. Wait two years, you will have a video iPod and apple will have a "video streamed directly to your home theatre" device. In the mean time, just copy the dang avis and mpegs to the ipod HD and plug it into your HTPC!!!
Or maybe I missed the point of mobile, inconvenient video. Silly me with my "laptop".
And yes. It is 2:45 PM. My Systems are working great, I went home early, and started drinking scotch. There I said it. Yeah. I'm drunk.
And it won't until I get mine. ;)
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I can see it already, for just 10$ you pay someone to scroll through the slideshow for you. It would be just like watching a movie, but without the work. A human as an iPod accessory? I wouldn't doubt it.
Might as well drive around in a "car" with no floorboards so you can accelerate and brake with your bare feet.
The Gameboy Advance SP can play movies too. No need to convert the files either. Just put on CF and go. :) My brother has one and it was pretty cool until he updated the firmware and broke it... bummer.
It suddenly felt as if a million server threads cried out in pain and were suddenly silenced.
OK, what's with the snobbery? 1. Look at the catchphrase for ./
2. Hang your heads in shame.
3. Go maintain your useless GameCube Beowulf cluster, or whatever other geeky hobby you've chosen, and stop attacking people for doing their useless fun stuff.
...and now, my work done, I'm off to polish my red and blue Snaggletooth dolls, erm, Action Figures!
I get rejected when I try to go there, could some one post the text here.
Says you, who have the time to complain on slashdot about some people having too much time on their hands.
Surely it would be possible to use a few bytes of the image to save the offset within the sound file that should be played?
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christ!
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Mirrordot.org also has a copy available:Mirrordot.org
Big Dig-ing until the money is gone...
if sites with images die... why put a direct link to a VIDEO file on /. ???
bittorrent ppl...
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Now I'm waiting for someone to visit Radio Shack, buy one of those little motors and hook that up to the scroll. Play with resistors to get it to the right speed.
Bonus points if you can pull juice right from the iPod's battery...
You can accomplish anything you set your mind to. The impossible just takes a little longer.
Can someone say "Carpal Tunnel Syndrom"? That's begging for a repetetive stress injury, if you ask me!
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About the way the person using the ipod worked that jog shuttle - I didn't know Lucas' final chapter in the trilogy could elicit such erotic feelings...
I think I'll stick with my zaurus, thanks.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
THIS is something I can get into. I like my movies with a side of RMS.
I really am just so speechless I hate to post something. If you are looking for an mp3 player that actually has half assed video then look at the new iriver, as they came out with a firmware capable of playing low res xvid files or something. Yeah it sucks but it's more news than this is.
more trouble than it's worth.
you can use the original iPod to have conversation by putting thousands of mp3's of voice recorded words and scrolling quickly one from another to piece a coherent sentence?
"This is like saying that your printer can play movies if you print out each frame and then flip through them.
Get a Hewlett Packard Color LaserJet 4650DN (duplex for double-sided printing) and plug it into three-phase power and it'll print fast enough to do this...
Of course, you won't be able to hear the soundtrack over the whine of rollers and gears burning themselves up...
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
because then there would not be much of a reason to buy an video ipod if they ever came out with one in the future
The lameness filter stops posting within 20 seconds, but it doesn't fucking stop dickheads posting 'why is this news?' on every fucking story. If you're not interested, why the fuck did you click 'reply'? Why don't you fuck off somewhere else? Go do something else that interests you.
Read this story - YOU'RE A DICK.
Fantastic new invention found!
Still images placed on a reel and handcranked through light and synched with a nearby phonograph result in what is being called a "motion picture".
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I saw this video a couple days ago. It is funny. THe guy speeds up and slows down a little, and doesn't keep it 'perfectly' in sync, but it's pretty good. (If the click sound were off, and they had it zoomed so you could only see the screen, not the guy frantically scrolling; I would have thought they had actually figured out how to play video on it.)
So, how long until some company makes a 'scroller' device that automatically scrolls at 30 fps?
Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com."
The purpose of that site was not known.
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We voted for Bush because he won't apologize to the world for doing what he believed was right, and damn the consequences.
Oh well done, that's a great arguement. Someday you might learn that these 'consequences' you speak of will actually matter.
Jerky low-res video, out of sync audio, why, it's a perfect pocket-size recreation of XingMPEG on my 486 laptop!
Course, there's probably some old geezer who thinks us youngins have it real good cause in his day he had to crank the projecter by hand. Oh, wait...
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" According to the article, you use Quicktime Pro to export the movie as thousands of individual frames which you export to the iPod, send the soundtrack to the iPod as well, then, if you haven't guessed by now, while playing the soundtrack, put the iPod into slideshow mode and use the scroll wheel to manually keep the frames in synch with the sound. "
Man... imagine porn becoming a workout.
"Derp de derp."
Hi this is the same method used to play movies on Commodore 128 with the SCPU running Wings OS http://wings.webhop.org/ Greg Nacu took out the frames out of the movies with Quicktime and extracted the wav file. He wrote a program in C for Wings OS which calls the jpeg rendered for every frame and the wav player for the audio. We have movies on Commodore now :)
Check it out
You can get a real portible device that is made to play movies like the iriver pmp. Yeah, cuz i want to walk around with my flaming pink photo ipod and pimp out quicktime slideshows with sound.
People haven't learned about Bit Torrent yet?!?
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The US iRiver H320 and H340 models can playback XVID if you flash them with the recently release v1.20 Korean FW (iRiver is a Korean company). Don't worry, all the menus will still be in English. The video does need to be down-converted to the proper resolution and framerate before playback, but it is a trivial process that can be automated using VirtualDub or any other number of programs. At $300, the H320 is by far the most versatile DAP on the market, imo.
'cause if you take the total cost of ink cartridges used in making that flipbook --- the iPod is cheaper....
Remember Police Academy? Now you can dub martial arts movies yourself, in the privacy of your own home...
This seems like something that the Professor on Gilligan's Island would think up to play a movie with an iPod that washes up on shore one day. Then, they would somehow make a raft with it to get rescued or something, or use it to signal for help (may a ship full of iPods washes up on shore...)
Clearly falls under 'psycho hacks'
Damn it Slashdot. Stop killing servers.
Sound impossible?
no, it just sounds stupid.
Good post man.
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Exactly.
I use my 3rd-Gen iPod for exactly what I bought it for: playing music while I'm doing other things.
If I wanted to share photos with people, a PDA would be a better route. Especially when you can store and view your photos on a PDA for the same $499 price, and have nearly infinite expandability, a larger screen and video playback.
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Seems to me there is a bit of potential here for a comic book viewer. Anything longer than a movie trailer is just silly, but flicking through a comic is a pretty natural thing. If your techno-savvy ('geeky') then you probably already have your fave online comic. It wouldnt be any effort to subscribe, update daily before you un-dock your pod for the train.
How fucking ghetto.
This is dumb.
Seagate 5GB CF hard disk, about $250.
That should be enough for a couple of commutes on the subway before you'll want to load something new on it.
My other first post is car post.
Watch the Apple Special Event video from Oct 2004. Skip ahead to about 12:35 in the video. Jobs says, in a humorous fashion, that he believes the competition is making a mistake with video on portable players, and lists reasons he believes they are impractical.
The arguments he makes are:
I think it's safe to say there won't be a video iPod.
am i the only one who sees how FUCKING HARD it would be to watch porn AND _uhhh_ *enjoy* said porn, in this manner? ;)
*ducks*
It is possible to play movies using a book. Simple use Quicktime Pro to export the movie as thousands of individual frames, print each one, bind them together and flick through them really fast. Audio can be obtained by copying the soundtrack onto a cassette tape and listening to it with your walkman.
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A $500 flipbook!
-Randy
slashdot might be out of business!
even for a computer!
no its not... I used to manually synch slide shows with music on my TI-85 back home... and its not much bigger than an iPod.
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
Worst.....hack......ever
if your this guy...
Maybe they should just rent space at the Slahdot offices, alongside Roland. Or perhaps they already do.
Worst. Show. Of. Brand. Loyalty. Ever.
(like, this new iPod suck but we're going try to fake that it sucks less. Lame.)
Couldn't you somehow hack the iPod so it plays a slideshow at like 30fps instead of the 1 frame per 5 seconds or whatever it is normally? Then you could just hit play to start the slide show and it would actually look like a movie.
This is no more a movie player than an apple fans blow up doll is a real girlfriend. (But hey -- points for trying. I would say buy something that can play a real movie and get on with life.)
(+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
iPod Hacks has an article about developing Quicktime applications for iPod. Pretty interesting stuff.
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Bad news - The spinning of the dials stuff precludes having any hands free for any other purpose.
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People have already started posting ipod links on all student email at my school, and when I pointed out that if one person did that, more people would, and it would create a bunch of clutter and NOBODY would get their iPod, well, lets just say the person who sent the link wasn't very appreciative, but he's not that bright anyways.
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I don't own an iPod, I'm too poor a university student to afford one of those fancy things, so this question comes from ignorance... Would it be possible to hack the speed of the slideshow, to 1 picture every 1/24th (or 1/30th) of a second? This would save your thumb, and more importantly, your scrollwheel/clickwheel....
BIG FRIGGING DEAL!!!
It's just a portable personal player. Competitors like Archos have been doing video for ages now. Why is it that every time some little incremental improvement comes out for iPod, people get all giddy over it? I mean it's not like they're doing anything new.
People are like sheep. Follow the crowds. Yippy.
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To start with, for you apple-crazed mods, this isn't a troll.
:). Basically, Apple needs to solve this "there are better mp3 players for less" problem. They're not going to cut prices (see the fact that their computers cost twice that of an equivalent PC--I simply can't afford a decent G5), so they might as well make what they're already selling better.
iPods are nice. Now when I bought my mp3 player a year ago, I got a 20GB Lyra for $180. Since the cheapest iPod was $400, it was definitely worth it. Plus the Lyra didn't have the battery problems the first-gen iPods did, and it had considerably longer battery life.
Well now iPods are lots cheaper. And they have somewhat better battery life, no dying batteries, and hold more. But if I wanted a new mp3 player today, I still wouldn't get an iPod. Because for the price of an iPod, I can get:
1. A Creative Zen Touch 20GB, has a touch scroll similar to the iPod's and has 60-80% more battery life. Plus I save $90. And it looks cool like the iPod.
2. A video player--larger than the Zen or the iPod, but plays both music, video, and all that.
Now if the iPod, at $300, had number two in there... lets just say it might find its way into my budget
They could fool the iPod into thinking something is rubbing the scroll wheel over and over in at a constant speed. The soundtrack could be synced in with the movie and you'd effectively have a portable DVD player.
CONVOY!!!
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
Can't you read? It says iPod right there in the subject line.
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Am I the only one who does not need this feature? I listen to my iPod when I'm on the train, when I'm walking somewhere, or when I'm working out.. all of these activities require using your eyes, so
Exactly! Oops, somebody forgot to tell Apple.
There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
Pretty cool discovery, but I think its too much work. If you have a video you want to watch so bad portably, find a digital camera or something.
Back in June, there was an article in MacTech detailing an iPod hack to enable Quicktime playback, written in (of all things) Snobol.
Of course, on investigation, it turned out to be a misscheduled April story...
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Has anyone tried an animated GIF on the thing? Apple's specs say it'll show GIFs... If it does, won't this guy feel silly.
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Hey, I've managed to get 3 confirmations by having a fucking free ipod link in my sig, thankyouverymuch ^_^
:D
Two more and that's a free iPod for doing absolutely nothing but registering and cancelling some stupid promotion, so pardon me if I feed into that horrible, horrible fad
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Gives a new meaning to the term, "click track."
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No.
Once I would have an opportunity to watch video trough some VR glasses, I could consider. Otherwise, I don't think portable video is going to succeed...
I demand the Cone of Silence!
You can emulate the feel of an iPod emulating Quicktime by dragging the slider in Quicktime to watch the Quicktime video of the iPod emulating Quicktime.
Imagine a...
forget it
Neil is that you? Yeah yeah, it's me... Neil...
I'm sure the only reason they didn't include movie playback in this version is so that all the rich schmucks that buy every generation of iPod will have to for out the cash in a couple of months when they include the software that ads movie playback functionality.
As a kid, I had this little hand-held toy that looked like a movie camera. It had a little crank on it, and there were cartridges for the toy that had short silent films on them, like Mickey Mouse cartoons or bits of Star Trek episodes. Point the toy at a light source, look in the little viewfinder, and be entertained. Ah, those were the days.
And now I see a guy playing a movie trailer in a similar fashion on an iPod, trying to run the wheel at a uniform speed, and I am reminded of my plastic toy. I'd better go see if anyone is selling one of those on eBay.
You are in error. No-one is screaming. Thank you for your cooperation.
iTunes has amazing video functionality already. Apple qt trailers offer full screen iTunes view and when you click it, you get full screen video.
I think apple works with some companies to make small lcd over glasses etc to watch full screen (big) videos now.
If apple not interested in video on ipod, why put video functionality to iTunes?
As everyone knows the prices of electronics are outrageous here in the UK , what would you guys think is the best value for money option here?
Or is it better to wait till one is in singapore/dubai to buy one?
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this is what i posted on their website...
How about automatic spin?! You can probably use some electronic products, i.e. a motor and "speed controller", and attach some type of material that would be recognized by those sensors on the wheel.
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And give ur finger(s) some rest...!
a hand cranked pencil sharpenner and some rubber bands will probably alleviate the finger strain.
The clickity sound reminded me of my 2nd grade classes where someone in near the projector had to hold their finger just right or the whole thing would go nuts.
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
Ok thats a swell idea but My cell phone can play regular run of the mill mpegs and mp3's so me thinks that the ipod is still in developement compared to my tmobile phone which also can play streaming audio off the internet and a big ole gnarly bunch of other things... ipod is very cool... but with 1 gig sd cards I can do pretty much the same stuff... and a bunch more...the only thing I see that it has going for it is the 40 gig drive...