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Lucas, Ford to Start Filming New Indiana Jones Film
Alchemist253 writes "George Lucas has announced that the script for the long-rumored fourth Indiana Jones film has been finalized and is to begin filming this year, with Harrison Ford once again in front of the camera. From the article: 'In a statement, the 64-year-old Ford said he was ready for another turn as the globe-trotting archaeologist. "I'm delighted to be back in business with my old friends," he said. "I don't know if the pants still fit, but I know the hat will."' All three of the earlier movies were shot in the 80s. How well do you think this character is going to translate into a movie made today?
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Just yesterday I spoke with someone from ILM, and they were saying how the film wasn't going to happen because Lucas kept rejecting scripts. Good to hear he found one he liked...
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Especially since they want Indy's dad to play a decent part in the movie. As much as Connery is one of my all time favorite actors, he's up in the years, and probably only has a few years left on the blue ball. I'll see it strictly for the Connery factor.
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The originals were all done in the pulp-action adventure style that was popularized fifty and sixty years ago - I doubt that it'll somehow be less attractive now than it was when the genre was only thirty years old.
Also, all three may have been shot in the eighties, but they took place in the forties, so it's not like we're going to see an Indiana Jones trying to come to terms with teh Intarwebs.
On the other hand, twenty-some odd years later... hey, an Indiana Jones that took place in the sixties might have real potential.
I think so, i dont know about you guys, but i loved the original movies, and ill be going out to see this one for sure. Even though he is 64 years old, he seams to be in good shape... Still did some running around in Firewall. We will have to wait and see, but im sure with some CGI and fancy camera work, they will make it great. I would think that there wont be as much physical action as in the previous movies, as it would probably be later in Mr. Jones' life as well.
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Another great set of films to have its legacy tarnished by trying to cash in on it one... last... time...
Hopefully 2007 ushers in a year in which remakes, sequels, and adaptations give way to original and creative stories and ways to tell them.
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Does anybody else remember when Indiana Jones's hat was deposited in some Hollywood museum (under glass) and they made a press conference about how there would never be another one? Apparently Lucas doesn't. Presumably he was holding out for the script that allowed him to shoot the entire movie in CG except for Harrison Ford.
I read the internet for the articles.
You know, the old guy that Jones goes to for information/help.
Definitely not a main character in an action movie. What was that awful "computer" movie he was just in?
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Watch the movie again, the old man guarding the grail mentions that the grails effects only work if dont pass the great seal, that is the boundaries of immortality.
That'll make Indiana Jones Jr. old enough for something like Indiana Jones and the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
HCUUA: Sign the confession!
Jones Jr.: Gimme the whip!
HCUUA: No time to argue. Sign the confession, we give you the whip.
Jones Jr.: (signs the confession) Gimme the whip!
HCUUA: Adios, señor. (guards grab Indiana Jones Jr.)
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Is it really necessary for Lucas to defecate on another one of our beloved 80s trilogies?
I suppose it is...since he couldn't float another turd across if it wasn't held up by the nations collective nostalgia. Any magic he allegedly had 'back in the day' has clearly faded, or been retarded by senility.
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"All three of the earlier movies were shot in the 80s. How well do you think this character is going to translate into a movie made today?"
Most of us who saw the originals are still alive today. Why wouldn't the characters translate well? The 80's were NOT that long ago. Sheesh!
I absolutely love the Indiana Jones movies. I don't think the fact that the originals were made in the 80s will have a whole lot to do with how the new movie holds up as much as how they approach the character now that Harrison Ford is 20 years older.
I read a rumor somewhere (rotten tomatoes I think) that many of the old principals were going to come back, including the females from Raiders & Temple of Doom, which could be cool.
All in all, I hope they don't try to make Ford too much younger like Stallone did with Rocky... there are plenty of things that can be done with the story with an older Indiana Jones, it just means a post-war setting.
Another great set of films to have its legacy tarnished by trying to cash in on it one... last... time...
The great thing is, you don't have to go see it if you don't want to. Or see it, then pretend it never happened. Just like I did with the Highlander series...
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Is it me or is there a staggering paucity of new ideas around at the moment. If you discount the remakes and the 'let's do another one's there's precious little around now that's truly original. Much as I loved the Indianna Jones movies can't we have a new hero once in a while.
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"George, Harrison and I are all very excited," Spielberg said, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
I thought George Harrison has passed away? Or are they bringing him back as well as Indy? Just amazing what those boys at ILM can do...
Now who are they going to find that's still Indy-level hawt in her mid 60's for the romantic lead... There's a few out there I'm sure.
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Well the knight who was guarding the grail also aged despite drinking from the grail regularly (one would imagine). The grail seems to severely slow down aging, but perhaps only through frequent use (the knight did say something about staying in the temple being the price and limitation of the grail's power) My guess would be that they'll set it forward quite a few years and make up Ford and Connery to look a bit younger. iirc, in the old "Young Indiana Jones" tv series you saw a very very old Indiana Jones in a few segments. Maybe that's how they internally explained how he could be as old as he was and yet more active than someone of his very advanced age might normally be.
He crossed the seal, but even if he hadn't, the knight guarding it appeared to have aged; he just didn't die from aging.
If Catherine Zeta Jones can play opposite Sean Connery (Entrapment), then I am sure they can find someone just as good for Indy.
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They should cast Sean Patrick Flanery as Indy and Harrisson Ford as Jones Sr. Then maybe they could do a decent movie.
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All three of the earlier movies were shot in the 80s. How well do you think this character is going to translate into a movie made today?
Depends on who has the most influence on the movie: if Spielberg then I think it'll be a fun romp, if Lucas then I'm afraid it'll turn into a moralistic pile o' crap (see "Star Wars Prequels").
Lucas has already said he's tried to reedit the earlier movies to make Indy more "heroic" (I believe that he wanted to edit or remove the "Indy pulls his guns on the sword wielding baddies and shots 'em dead on the spot" scene from the first film a'la "Greedo shoots first". Spielberg wouldn't allow him).
Harrison Ford will provide the voice of Indiana Jones but the "person" you see on screen will be a CGI recreation of Indiana Jones based on footage from the previous 3 movies.
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Presumably the knight did leave occasionally. You know, a few days here and there, to gather food if nothing else. It'd add up over several hundred years.
Though the curing of all ills probably would extend life somewhat. 'You know what? That cancer that would've killed you in 20 years? Gone'. Well, that and something along the lines of a professional retuning of the body's systems, fixing up accumulated damage.
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It can be avoided.
Crazy at it may sound, just about every review of Rocky Balboa observes that it's easily the best since the original. OK, not as good as the original but still one to improve the legacy overall and not detract from it.
The secret appears to be:
If Sylvester Stallone is smart enough to figure out how to do it, we can but hope Spielberg is.
Then again, maybe we'll just be confronted with Indy holding a cellphone instead of a whip. *mutter*ET*mutter*
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From Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Panama Hat: This is the second time I've had to reclaim my property from you.
Indiana Jones: That belongs in a museum.
Panama Hat: So do you.
Well, if Sylvester Stallone, of all people, managed to create an excellent conclusion after four increasingly lame sequels, I'm sure Steven Spielberg (yep, George "Jar-Jar" Lucas isn't directing this one) can do it too.
As the other poster said, you don't have to watch it if you don't want to. I still haven't seen the last two Star Wars movies, and not planning to do so.
Indiana Jones and the Craftmatic Adjustable Bed.
Watch the movie again, the old man guarding the grail mentions that the grails effects only work if dont pass the great seal, that is the boundaries of immortality.
Which leaves a very big plot hole on who made the great seal and what is it?
And why does it have anything with the holy grail? Since presumptuously the grail in itself is the power to immortality, but why does it matter that the seal had anything to do with this? Did Jesus show up and bless the seal when the knights made the temple in the Middle ages?
Lastly... Why can't the seal be moved. If immortality is achievable why not move the seal or move into the temple with modern luxuries?
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I'm really sorry they are going back to the well for this.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
IMDb lists Natalie Portman as a rumored cast member. So in case the movie doesn't live up to its potential, just add some hot grits and we'll all go watch it anyway. :-P
River Phoenix signing up as Indy's son? He did a good job in the last movie. Is he even available?
Highlander was great!
They made one fantastic movie and then they made a one good series.
Fortunately they never made any sequels or spinoff series from those.
And it was always strange to me how Babylon 5 ended on Season 4, episode 21. No ending but i guess they couldn't think of a good ending so they just stopped it there.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Old is indeed the good word.
I wonder if the movie is about finding the fountain of youth.
Maybe someone will open the Ark in San Francisco and everybody parties with the glowing spirits until they get fried by lightning or melted. You can substitute San Francisco with Des Moines, if you like.
But don't get your hopes up. I predict a new, young, lame character being introduced, and not the return of the Ark.
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Highslander II: The sickening was a very bad piece of pandering tripe.
Killed the whole mystique of immortals as an ancient race. Instead they are SPACE PEOPLE
sentenced to earth. Lame. Unexplained in many parts and killed the previous story continuity.
I'll give you the director/writers's view of the future was interesting. Though provoking? Hmmmm . . .
I'm gonna say no.
I have the trilogy box set... now they'll get to release indy4, indy4 enhanced, indy4 directors cut, and then the supreme 4 movie remastered box set! What a deal! (Ack! I completely forgot the HD-DVD/Blue-ray re-releases!!)
Sarcasm aside, I'm looking forward to the movie.
Let the market decide. It will probably decide that the franchise has jumped the shark. I wouldn;'t spend paper money, let alone true money i.e. gold on it.
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it's pathetic when a billionaire is so addicted to money that he will do anything to get it
I doubt he needs the money too much but the several thousand 'normal people' who will work on the movie will no doubt appreciate the chance to earn some money.. as will their families. Billionaires dont just make money for themselves..
Everybody can have an opinion... but did you like the 2nd and 3rd Matrix movies?
> Which leaves a very big plot hole on who made the great seal and what is it?
I think you're missing out on the whole "Power of God" thing here. Just to pull something from my nethers, I'd say that the folks who set up the place (the knights who found it) got a vision from God to set up a place for the grail and make a seal on the ground to mark the boundary. The seal itself isn't the boundary, just like a road cone isn't the pothole that it marks. The seal just shows mortals where the line is. As to moving into the place and living forever, it's an artifact from God, so it stands to reason that if you try to find a loophole but you're not devoutly religious, God would just pull the plug on you anyway.
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Think about it.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Lucus must want money. He certainly wouldn't make another IJ movie because it would be interesting.
No, I think Lucas wants another movie because he wants to do something that the fans don't hate, even if it makes a lot of money. Billionaires don't generally want more money, they want more respect.
We have the Iraq war because so many U.S. citizens are excited, not disgusted, by violence, any violence.
Maybe you get excited by the violence (I've noticed that pacifists usually displace on everyone else their own personality disorders), but I personally get excited about the potential birth of freedom in a formerly murderous dictorship. TJ said it best: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
Also, all three may have been shot in the eighties, but they took place in the forties,
The open sequence in Raiders says "Peru, 1936."
What if I do the same thing, and I do get different results?
Seriously not funny. Over 65k people in the US alone died of Alzheimer's in 2004.
that this was a sign of the coming of Duke Nukem Forever?
The only thing worse than the Star Wars Christmas Special is outtakes from the Star Wars Christmas Special. In other words, material that was actually not good enough to be included in the Star Wars Christmas Special.
Honestly though, it's a bit odd that you can accept drinking from a wooden cup could make you immortal, but not that the omniscient omnipotent omniprescent force behind that could set any additional conditions on it whenever it felt like it.
If we assume Indiana Jones will act his age (as played by Harrison Ford) then period of the film will be approximately 20 years after the last movie (~1938). In Hollywood time that could be anywhere from 1955-1965 depending on the desired historical backdrop and Fords makeup. In that time period we had the beginnings of the cold war, the beginning of the Vietnam era, the beginnings of the space race as well as the birth of the CIA & KGB. Prof. Jones would probably finishing his career in academia with an eye to retirement (his relic hunting days probably over at 65, remembering that life expectancy in the 50/60s was under 70, but that never stopped Hollywood). If Lucas and Spielberg want to be interesting they would return to Central/South America and the civilizations of the Aztec, Maya, etc. where we met Indiana Jones and the Bowling Ball of Doom and discovered his dislike of snakes. Through in some ex-Nazis in South America (ala Boys from Brazil), the KGB, CIA, lost cities in the rain forest, lasers (Sun God & Temple of the Sun), and maybe even some aliens (crystal skull). Lucas could even revitalize Jones if he finds the Fountain of Youth.
Given the apparent importance of the grail, I wouldn't assume that the knight ever left the temple. If the grail was as powerful as it's made out to be, wouldn't it be able to "cure" starvation?
Beyond that, I'd be inclined to agree with the "professional retuning of the body's systems" idea, that would nicely explain why the grail knight was just really realy really old, instead of being in his prime.
Indiana Jones finds out he's been cloned and now there are 47 copies but they all have different names: California Jones, Idaho Jones, Texas Jones, Arkansas Jones, Utah Jones, Rhode Island Jones, etc. No Hawaii or Alaska Jones because they aren't states yet when this is set. They are all evil so he has to track them down and bring them to justice.
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Is there a term, "Christian-oid myths"? Perhaps I'm bitter because the judge refused to allow me to name "Indiana Jones" as co-respondent in the divorce suit, merely because he is a fictional character.
erm, given the timeframe wouldnt Fords age place the story somewhere deep in the 70s? I wonder how this fits with the Indy universe... ;-/
"George, Harrison and I are all very excited," Spielberg said, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
Spielberg was actually addressing someone named George, hence the single comma. "Harrison and I are all..." refers to Spielberg's bewildering array of personalities.
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
He was talking about patriots rising up against tyrants, not some invading army coming in and slaughtering both.
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I am holding out my breath and hope they will turn in film what was the 4th "oldy" game of indy (the one with atlantis, point and click). Althoguh it had a sad end (I won't spoil it) so maybe my hope are in vain...
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My guess is that they will introduce Indy Jr. He can do the running and romancing while Harrison and Sean sit and reminisce (and, maybe, save the day with their superior wisdom).
In other words (if it works) New Franchise!
H2: There should have been only one. Mulcahy himself hated it so much that he walked out of the premiere and tried to have his screen credit changed to Alan Smithee. The only thought it provoked was "I can't believe I actually spent money to watch that.
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I'm sorry... what were we talking about?
You could make the same argument with any of the Indy movies. They all take a leap of faith to enjoy.
Prepare yourselves for a digitally inserted, blue glowy River Phoenix.
Tremble before the mind blowing revelation when Sean Connery announces to the Nazis, "I am the Senate!"
And witness the incredible love scenes between a reunited Indiana and Marion Ravenwood, "I hate snakes. They're slimy, scaly, and they get everywhere. Not like here, where everything is... wrinkley and aging."
Professor Jar-Jar.
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Oh I'm sorry... you have to watch it high... It's really outstanding when you're smoking alcohol.
How about "Indiana Jones and the Quest for the Daily Bowel Movement"?
But you forget that the other brothers left the sanctuary and lived very long lives when they returned to Europe. Indy says so when he finds the tomb of one of them underneat that cathedral in Venice.
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All three of the earlier movies were shot in the 80s.
Oh, man. I read this and thought "that can't be right!" - then I looked it up and now I just feel old.
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Having sucked the last bit out Star Wars, Lucas proceeds to do this to Indiana Jones? I see..
Since the first 3 films were set in the late 1930s, a 20 year gap would put the fourth one in the 1950s.
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I hear that Jake Lloyd will be playing Indiana Jones Junior. And, in the climax, a bunch of Ewok Freedom Fighters will take on the Nazis and win using rocks and home-made gliders. The whole of Harrison Ford's dialog will be "Get off my lawn, damn kids" or "When I was a kid, I'd steal treasures using nothing but a pouch with some sand in it, while barefoot in the snow."
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Granted, Odessa was nothing more than a conglomerate of people from different walks of life protecting fugitive Nazis, but it's always fun to have stories with Odessa planning for the resurrection of the Reich.
Did you hear about the special edition of 'Raiders Of The Lost Ark'?
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This movie has been in the works for easily 10 years. There have been dozens of scripts by multiple writers that have been repetitively rejected.
In order to preserve the original trilogy as one of the best in American film history, only a damn good script would make it past Ford/Lucas/Spielberg.
Personally? I can hardly wait another year and a half for it. A fourth movie is long overdue.
No, no. He edits it without writing, then does the first theatrical release, then he writes it for the second theatrical release. Then there's more writing for the third theatrical release, and of course it goes without saying that each of the 5 or 6 VHS/DVD editions is rewritten. I'm still waiting for Star Wars Episodes 2 & 3 where Yoda doesn't fight at all. I can't wait to see those movies get worse. Although maybe the midi-colorians (sp?) will get written out entirely for the 20-year special edition theatrical re-release of the prequels.
Speaking of prequels, that's one thing we have to hope and pray about... with Harrison Ford being 20+ years old, please, please don't make this a prequel... everyone else is doing prequels.
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Hollywood begins with remakes, sequels, and adaptations in the silent era. Zorro, Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, The Three Musketeers.
The Wizard of Oz on film doesn't begin with July Garland.
The basic conventions of action-adventure, the cliffhanger serial, were well-established on stage in the 1890s.
Audiences love this stuff, always have, always will.
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You could always update that to be two more bullets.
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Indy: "Snakes... why'd it have to be snakes? On a mother!@#%ing plane???"
"When 900 years you reach, look this good you will not!" - Yoda
This will be similar to Never Say Never Again, when Sean Connery returned as an old-ass James Bond, making Roger Moore look better than ever.
Is it really going to be called Indiana Jones and the Ravages of Time? They are right about the 'ravages of time'.
Harrison Ford sure looks over sixty these days. Maybe they can bring back Sean Connery for this one too, and bring other about-to-die actors as his colleagues. (Is Ed Asner really still alive?)
Has anyone seen the script?
> But if god is directly involved they wouldn't need the grail to achieve immortality.
Oh, come on, this is too easy. It's simple to show that God grants immortality by route of the grail, and thereby imposes the limitation. If you want to live forever, you must do it in that cave in perpetual worship, because immortality means drinking regularly from the grail and the grail can't leave the cave. Seems simple enough in a religion that emphasizes that immortality is for the afterlife, not this life. Again, the great seal is just an indicator, not anything to do with the power of the grail.
This movie was positively cratered with plot holes, but this isn't one of them. If you want to jump on anything about the grail's resting place, try the concept that there are enough crescent-shaped valleys south of cities in the Middle East that a thousand years of searching (including the knowledge of the map with no names) couldn't turn up the right one until Dr. Jones figured out the name of the city.
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I'm pretty sure that what the knight actually says is that he occasionally forgot to drink from the cup. Ya know, "wake up, drink" can get old after a while and I'm sure he tried to mix it up with drinking games he lost or sleeping in on Sunday (shhh). The cup has to stay behind the seal, but the power of the cup was not affected.
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That is a great idea. (the ark peeking one) If they start the movie with that scene, they could use heavy special effects, and maybe even footage from the original movies cutting room floor to have a Raiders Indy right up to the aging. Then from their, they are golden to have an old Indy fighting Nazis.
I think there could really be a story about how they have to avoid / evade huge parts of their life to explain away their very very slowing age and then are called upon again . . . perhaps when the Ark finally gets opened up accidentally while searching for party favors for the celebration being held to honour Bush's successful third term.
that Tales of the Golden Monkey is coming back? That show rocked!
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Ford could easilly play a youthful Indy well into his old age it would just increase the SFX budget. Hell eventually you could have a completley lifelike computer generated Indiana Jones that Ford just does the voice work for.
You're just jealous 'cause suckiness is frequently rewarded with assloads of cash while talent is often overlooked. You're probably one of those talented people who naturally think talent deserves reward and suckiness deserves ignominy. What a telent-centric world view. Face it, most of the world's population isn't in the "talented" camp, and if they want to reward suckiness, who are you tell tell them otherwise?
Yes, that was sarcasm.
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... in which remakes, sequels, and adaptations give penalties up to and including death by fire ants for those that tell them.
Lil spelling error there, but I touched it up for you.
"All these years believing you're the signified monkey, only to find out you're just a big hunk of nobody cares."
To be honest, it wasn't that funny to start with when three bullets were needed.
Noting is new under the sun.
I do, too.
This has the possibility of adding to the legacy and retaining the quality of story and action. Then again, Star Wars episodes 1-3 had huge potential and blew it. I just hope this doesn't end up being a bunch of cliches, dialog that doesn't belong in the 30's & 40's ("Indy, you're so cool.") or overblown digital effects where the more realistic, classical stunts fit much better.
I'm curious if they'll get Sean Connery for more comic relief, too.
As we all know, George lives by another of Harrison's lines: "I don't know. I'm making it up as I go along."
Maybe Spielberg can save it. We'll see.
Oh, quit your crying about 64 - the 60's are the new 30's. I'm sure Harrison has been drinking the blood of young babies for years and everyone in Hollywood KNOWS that stuff keeps you young and spry!
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I hope they don't try to convince us his character is realy only 40 years old. That NEVER works. Best would be for him to be a very active older guy, teamed up with someone younger (a son perhaps?) and this film could transition the major future role to the younger character, while leaving the door open to HF's continued particpation as he REMAINS a fan draw. Let's not also forget that demographics are changing and the Baby Boomer generation wants to see more older characters and the younger generations want to identify with someone their own age. Thus done well this could be a win, win. Done badle it's probably the end of the Franchise.
and just how long will it take slashdotters to predict how "terrible" a movie will be that hasn't even starting filming yet....
All you need to do is bring up the Lucas name....
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I'm expecting indy to be sporting a new lycra and rubber uniform to go along with this rebirth of the series.
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You kids complain about Jar Jar. Back in my day we had to put up with that supid kid and his muppet pet on Battlestar Galactica, or Buck Rogers and his robot bidibidibidbidibidi! Jar Jar is straight up street gangsta by comparison.
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Nice fantasy, but I personally get depressed about the reality of the birth of a theocratic murderous dictorship in a formerly secular murderous dictorship, an exchange obtained at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives.
Problem is, the tree of depostism is also refreshed by blood.
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Since the rumour has it that Natalie Portman will appear in Indy 4, I guess we can say with some certainty that the film will include an artifact that petrifies whoever touches it.
The other problem is the viewing audience. They don't want to see new things
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I'd like to see Indy fight Taliban and other terrorists...
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The grail prevents you from dying, it doesn't prevent you from aging, eh?
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
to store all of his relic's images...instead of a half-burned image on a chinaman's hand...
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Indy 4 might work. --If they write a story about a guy in his sixties dealing with the amazing. He'd be living in the Kennedy/Nixon era if Indy reflects Ford's age. The world had taken on a whole different energy by then and magical archaeology could be an interesting thing. Might even be UFO stuff. Though, I'd really like to see the crazy fist fights left behind. Old guys learn to be crafty and clever rather than brute-force types. It could be a really great film if done right.
I hope we don't get any Zionist/Christian propaganda. That's the last thing the world needs today, powder-keg that it is. It'll be interesting to see whose vision is represented better; Lucas' last films, despite their failings, carried a very smart, anti-government message. Spielberg. . , not so much. His late offerings have included things like, "Catch me if you Can," and "Terminal," which seemed to carry a message which told us, "The state is too powerful to fight. Better to follow the laws and take solace in whatever pathetic little victories you can muster." Hm.
If Lucas' comment about the new film being a "Character Piece", means what I hope it means, then it might not stink. I didn't like the last one very much; thought it was poorly written, and the whole Grail thing to be silly.
We'll have to wait and see. I wonder if the next Die Hard will offer any indications.
-FL
Ummm... according to the movie (i.e. within the Indiana-Jones-verse), yeah pretty much.
The grail knight makes a comment to the effect that he's grown old and weak over the centuries of waiting for someone to make it through the traps to challenge him so presumably he was not old and weak when he first arrived in the temple. Remember, the average life span of people back when he and his brothers originally found the grail was probably somewhere in the 30s-40s at best, it would be highly unlikely that an old man (as he appeared in the movie) would be alive, let alone be able to undertake the journey to find and then hide/construct traps/guard the grail.
While that does seem to be true for most of Spielberg's movies (he even managed to put a cute kid in peril in Munich), I don't recall there being any kids featured in Raiders or Last Crusade (unless you count the Indy-as-teenager flashback). Though I suppose Short Round and the hundreds of captured kids being forced to work in the mines in Temple of Doom make up for that oversight.
Did anyone else watch The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles in the 1990s? Each episode had a framing sequence that took place in the then-present day with a 90-year-old Indiana Jones. He'd encounter something that reminded him of an event from his childhood or teenage years, then start telling the story to whoever was nearby. Then it would shift into a standard narrative presentation set in 1910, or 1916-1920. Once, for a ratings stunt, they set the framing sequence in the 1950s instead and got Harrison Ford to do the intro.
What we know from these framing sequences: Indy lives until at least 90, ages normally, and has a daughter.
I can see GL is milking his successful franchises for all their worth. Indiana Jones toys must not be selling like they use too. I don't expect George Lucas to come without another blockbuster franchise or even be motivated to even try. But, sometimes, I would like for Hollywood people to just retire or step aside. Not that Ford is capable of still acting, but he is too over the hill for an action movie. Just like Rocky lacing his gloves for one more bout, Indiana should not pack the whip, holster the pistol, and put on the hat for another adventure searching for lost treasure. He just start collecting social security and bust the Ark out storage for more study while his young protege fights someones during the quest for some relic.
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It's rumored that Karen Allen is going to be brought back.
I'd go for Annette Bening for an older romantic lead though. BTW, her husband Warren Beatty is older than Harrison Ford.
I wonder what it would be like if Albert Einstein did a second paper on the Photoelectric Effect in 1925
I wonder about the crowds response if Steve Jobs release the Apple II in shining aluminum chassis at next Macworld Expo
Maybe George Bush should have just reinvaded Japan rather than to start that whole Iraq thing.
It seems to work so well for Hollywood
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Whats next, a 'later' Blade Runner? Or was his term 'predetermined' like the others... Who knows.. Perhaps he can search out the real Tyrell and get his ( their, cant forget Rachael ) life extended....
Hmmmm
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I remember when I was about 12 years old, my Dad was trying to talk me into seeing this movie about an archeologist searching for some ancient jewish artifact. I couldn't imagine anything more boring sounding. "Dad, I don't wanna see some dumb archeology movie, it sounds boooooring! I don't care if Han Solo is in it. It's still gonna be dumb!" Well he and my Mom dragged me along to see it anyway. We were a bit late because of my foot dragging. We walked into the Villa Theater (huge wraparound screen that made IMAX look like a video ipod) right as the Paramount trademark was fading to the jungle mountain. I'm getting chills up my back remembering it. That might have been the most pure unadulterated FUN I ever had in a movie theater.
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An actor's ego increases greatly with age.
The fact that Ford is even doing this movie proves that.
I'd like to see him do the stunts Daniel Craig did for the latest Bond. We'd not see any more of Ford subsequent to that effort, I can guarantee you.
That said, I'll undoubtedly go see it, 'cause I'm a sucker for action/adventure movies. I just wish Vinn Diesel would do another "Triple X" - the stunts in that movie were absolutely awesome.
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Jones, Indiana Jones.
Nonono, you've confused the order. The grail already had the attribute of immortality granting if you drank from it daily. That was the point. It got the power when Jesus used it in the Lord's Supper.(1)
God figured out this was a bad idea to leave laying around, so he had some knights collect it and store it, and, just in case they failed, he added an off switch, where it couldn't leave the cave.
Why he didn't just zap it to start with or hide it inside a mountain, I don't know. But the point wasn't to give anyone immortality, the point was to keep something safe and hidden that already gave people immortality.
1) Actually, stories of 'the cup that grants eternal life or just unlimited clean water when you drink from it' predate Christianity, and got sucked into the mythology of Christianity like a lot of other things.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
Either you're lying, or you've just disproved the existence of a just God.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
As long as the movie stays consistent with its own internal logic everything's ok. The seal is that way because God said so. It doesn't matter why, it's just a plot device. Take the Indiana Jones movies for what they are, good pulp movies. Part of what makes them so much fun is the fact that they don't have to draw an entire logically cohesive universe to support the meaning of each action.
And the name's "Nostra-du-mahss."
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This sounds like a reference to the (supposed) fact that Harrison stapled his hat to his head for stunts in earlier Indiana Jones films.
Overall, the eighties sucked. I know that Sturgeon's law says that 90% of anything is crap, but it really seemed closer to 99% in the '80s. There were a few gems though, and Indiana Jones was one of them. That you can even ask this question:
And not have people go "what are you talking about?" should tell you something. I agree that I think they are just trying for more money and beating a dead horse, but of all the things that could be resurrected from the '80s, they could do much worse than Indiana Jones. Here's hoping the fourth film doesn't suck.
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According to this page, Ford noted in a book that it was dysentery while Spielberg at least once said in an interview that is was "the local food", thus perhaps the confusion.
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