Slashdot Mirror
Google Turns 5
Gantic writes "The BBC has an article on Google's 5th birthday. The popular search engine now handles over 200 million queries a day and the word "Google" is now a noun, adjective and verb. Lets see how long the most popular search engine in the world can last, here's to another 5 years and more Google!"
Simple and to the point :-)
I was using dogpile, and other engines that searched other engines.
I find that hard to believe. And If it is true, what's so hard about writing 200 Billion?
Even people that believe in pre-destiny look both ways before crossing the street.
Why another five years? Do we not want a better search engine to come along? Google is nice and all, but if someone can come up with something better... Well, I'd prefer that.
And to think i only found out about it 2 years ago :(
the article states 200 million queries a day, not 200,000 million (200 billion) queries as the slashdot post says.
Well, that's just about the Google-ist thing I've ever heard!
The US Army: promoting democracy through unquestioned obedience
What OTHER search engine do you still use, and why?
What about a fscking link??
Where can I find this Google company?
Where would we be without google toolbars? Portland Linux User Group
Robby Russell
PLANET ARGON
Robby on Rails
To be used as a pronoun!
I have never heard of it...'google.com?'
Sounds made up to me...
We apologise for the fault in this post. Those responsible have been sacked. -- Signed RICHARD M. NIXON
At last, my sig is relevant to a story!
Let's see, today's total is:
Results 1 - 10 of about 344,000,000. Search took 0.10 seconds.
Not bad.
What Google would Google Goo ?
And thats why Firecrackers and kittens don't mix.
It may be 5 years old, but it's not the same as it was back in the day (say 2-3 years ago)... when it truely did 'google' the internet... Now it has all sorts of filters and junk.
Do you remember when you could do a search for a file and it would return hidden ftp sites? Now I do a search for something and all I get are the top sponsored sites. I can't find anything useful using google anymore... all the darned links point to mainstream sites. At the first sign of a potential lawsuit google removes references to potentially offensive material... what good is a search engine that doesn't do a good search?
At this time I can't find anything better than google, but I really hope something comes out that is, cuz I miss the good ol' days when I could actually find stuff on the net...
---
Programming is like sex... Make one mistake and support it the rest of your life.
While I normally have nothing but praise for google, there have been a number of recent censorship issues which one should be mindful of. Google is a privately own company, based on profit, don't forget it.
That said, thankfully you can still type "google censorship" into google itself and get a heap of results. The force may be strong with this one.... but it was strong with Vader also.
I think google's great, but just to counter the usual fan boy posts here is a link to some people who don't think so:google-watch
The thing that makes feel good about google is that it is a company that is so driven by what tech people think would be useful to people rather than by MBA marketer types who seem to want popups and cluttered image filled pages. Employees spend 1/3 of their time just creating new wild ideas. I wish I was good enough to work there.
I would guess that living under the law of the DMCA will eventually be the downfall of Google.
I hope Google can keep it up. This search engine is by far the best one out there. I use many, many times a day. My only fear for Google is what dooms many of the other search engines, that is, they sell out to the man. They become an advertising whore and make their searches completely worthless. A prime example of this is Microsoft. I know they are in the process of revamping their engine, but let's be honest, if they keep up the advertising whoring, nobody except the ignorant masses that use MSN as their ISP will use the engine.
Stay true to the cause Google! You are the best.
No trees were harmed in the composition of this; however, numerous electrons were inconvenienced.
Google is great, but most of my searches are linux devolpment related and it would be great to have some sort of quality filter and an intelligent handling of mailing list based results...
Since google is the most popular search engine out there, they have the power to "remove" you from the internet. If someone at google headquarters decides to remove you from the search results, you don't exist. I know this debate is old but maybe some restrictions should be enforced since they hold much power, some would say too much.
Dont just mail it - Maileet
What toolbars and other tools do you use with Google?
Man, we've come a long way. Back when they bought the Dejanews Usenet archive, all comments I saw were of the "Who are these guys?"-"What do they want with our beloved archive?"-"Will they keep it public or they'll make it a paid service?"-"Is their search engine any good?" kind.
Now we take its groups search feature for granted, we think nothing of other search engines (Yahoo!, anyone?) and we use Google to search for images (back in MY day, those were the hardest to search, having to search and download lots of stuff from ftp sites and then discard the junk).
I love Google.
"Trust me - I know what I'm doing."
- Sledge Hammer
What are the best web sites that give information about Google?
When Teoma etc came in I thought Google would be in for some tough competition - but everything has blown away in front of them - a case in study for technology and services analysts for years to come.
.
Their PageRank technology is something that they have leveraged on . .
[PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important."
Important, high-quality sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Of course, important pages mean nothing to you if they don't match your query. So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query]
Their continuing language translation initiative and innovative Google Labs keep up the momentum in their favour - searching now is heading for Google thats it, nothing else comes to mind !
Also there have been amazingly few outages too on their side; as they add more and more pages to their cache and more services !
It got about 350 different search engiernes (like alltheweb.com (the second largest...)), divide into categories like Newsgroups (The only one I know there isn't where is Google :))
Great, it's increasing in age but becoming as worthless as AOL-Netfind.
Pls No Negative Modding!
Wow, five years and it's still only been around for less than half the time I've been on the Internet. Before that we had webcrawler, which we thought was the shit. Anybody remember webcrawler's old URL? I believe it was http://webcrawler.cs.washington.edu. It was kick ass when it came out, like a version of Archie for teh web.
___
Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum.
Is google that young? I remember I it was a big success back in 1998..... google is one of the reasons internet became so popular. What will be next?
Just 'google' for it.
How do Google make money ? Is it purely from advertising or do they ofer other services as well ?
Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
What truth?
There is no dupe
Google has added a calculator function to it's primary search page. Simply type in 4*6 or (9+13)/7 into the search box and out pops the answer. Unit conversions (i.e. "how many inches in a lightyear") are performed as well. And if that wasn't enough, simply type in "the answer to life, the universe and everything" for a calculation that takes significantly less time than seven and a half million years. A nice plug for Google's computing power being equivalent to Deep Thought of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Searched the web for 5.
Results 1 - 10 of about 820,000,000. Search took 0.25 seconds.
taken! (by Davidleeroth) Thanks Bingo Foo!
A boss at work has observed that if WW III were to hit and Google survived they would probibly worship the thing. heh
So, why hell didn't anyone tell me about Google in 1998?! God damn... back then I was using HotBot... oh the pain... the horror.
"To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit." -Stephen Hawking
ln /sbin/fsck google
google-watch-watch
I only post comments when someone on the internet is wrong.
I figured I ought to google
it: http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.htm
Big Brother Bush is doubleplus ungood.
the article states 200 million queries a day, not 200,000 million (200 billion)
C'mon, this is Slashdot. Po-tay-to, po-tah-to...
The coolest voice ever.
As much as I like Google, it is far from perfect.
One big problem with carrying out searches on Google is the 10 word limit it imposes on queries: because of the sheer amount of commercial junk there is out there, it is often hard to filter out distractions without limiting the actual query terms so much that one has to wade through hundreds of results. 10 words simply aren't enough in today's world of highly repetitive and commercialized rubbish.
Now it has all sorts of filters and junk.
Care to eludicate? I still seem to be able to find what I need.
At this time I can't find anything better than google,
Or to be more precise, anything other than Google. As I said, for me Google is dandy, but competition, as we've said over and over, is always a good thing. Microsoft is preparing to enter the search engine arena, and whatever else may be true about them, they are certainly not a company to be dismissed. Grab your popcorn, folks.
The coolest voice ever.
just try building a new website in a commercial area. You will not get high ranking no matter how many websites link to yours, unless you pay google
eat shiat and bark at the moon
Here is the cache for it
;)
E.
Never rub another man's rhubarb - The Joker
I've now used Google for so long that I can't remember what I used before.
However, when is Google going to let me use full Perl-style regular expression searching?
eludicate
:P
Yeah, I'll just pounce on that typo now. before someone else does.
The coolest voice ever.
You probably want the Google weblog. (Note it is run by someone outside of Google. Just for the record.)
That really is quite interesting. That made me see google in a slightly different light, especially the whole google toolbar/alexa connection, and the "immortal" cookie; Anyone know if France or Germany are creating an alternative to Google? (Hey, I like France's Linux distro, Mandrake...So maybe they could make a search engine I would like too =)
In case that gets here's Google's cached verson.
My favorite line is:Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its content.
You made a funny joke! You called him Mr. Gates! From Micro$oft!! (they're evil) because he doesn't agree with the Slashdot groupthink!!!! LOLOLOLz0r0s
I used to bulls-eye womp-rats in my pants
Now we see the real problem with the googlish editors. I can google at google and find the verb (inifinitive) and noun (of course), but where the google is this googling adjective form???
I wonder how many of those are courtesy of Slashdot.
- shazow
Use quotes around the words, and it won't do that. Most search engines operate this way.
Oh, and RTFM.
In the news media, I've often come across the assertion that "to google" is now common usage, but to date, the only place I've seen the usage of the mythical verb "to google" was in the dialog in William Gibson's recent novel "Pattern Recognition" -- has anyone run into this verb in real life?
Everyone let us go to Google to slashdot it!
I don't know I used to search before I found Google. I think I used AOL's search or Dogpile, ugh. I mean, what other search engine has their own spyware-free toolbar?
Isnt that what google cache is for??
You have 5 Moderator Points!
Which Helpless Linux zealot/MS basher do you want to mod down today?
something i'm still missing at google are 'file searches'. lets say i know a name of the file and would like to find some ftp servers that still have it. how i do that with google?
I watched an article on the CBS "Sunday Morning" show where they interviewed Google founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page while sitting at the breakfast table absorbing my first cup of coffee when noticed stackes of boxes in their office labeled "Penguin Computing". That put a smile on my face!
-=- Many seek good nights and lose good days.
Haven't you ever been asked the same question over and over again, or simply "where can i download XXXx V3.0" ?
If I can, I usually help, but if I am busy my answer is: "just google it"
__
Sig: Marine Stock Photos
The 'prenatal' Google was already being discussed on netnews in March 1998. [more history]
3.1 billion web pages indexed
A search for 'the' on Google gives 5,140,000,000 results, indicating their index is above 5 billion. The results are very interesting. Strangely, the first result is theonion.com, America's finest news service, indeed!
getSexySig();
I pared down the url to it's most basic form, and then used wget to compare the output. It's identical.
So then I used Proxomitron's header watching log to see if anything funny was going on.
BytesTemplar.com
Their new toolbar is great (when I'm stuck on IE). Forms autofill, popup blocking, and even the ability to vote a site up or down. Hmm... site to vote down... of course, sco.com!
I use Macs to up my productivity, so up yours Microsoft!
Lets hope that they can live to be a googol (10^100)
Yeah, that's right... I said google sucks. Well, okay, I have to admit that I still use it for 99% of my searching without even a second thought. But they still suck.
They suck because of this stupid page rank algorithm they use... they need to re-think that. How do I know? Well, when I search google for my name (which is unique... I am the only human being on the planet with this name, I'm almost positive) it comes back with all the questions I posed to mailing lists and the articles I've written for newspapers... but it doesn't return my own personal web site, which has my name on every page and the url of which is my name!!
I mean if the idea is to come back with the most accurate results possible, what could possibly be a better result than a site that is all about me!!! But, no, google knows better... they've got their top secret algorithm. Every other search engine I've tried finds at least one of the pages from my site. Seems to me that their inferior algorithms have google beat in this case.
But, then again I know I'm biased on this... and hell, I'm too lazy to use a different search engine. Actually, I really should use a metasearch that includes google and some others... anyone know of any?
I guess this is a mistake, first of all, why isn't there anything on the frontpage, and why was there something last year, on 27 september? http://www.google.com/intl/nl/logos_archive.html
Logos Celebrating the birthdays of Piet Mondrian and Claude Monet and earthday
BTW, here the first goolge logo . Prior to that it was called Project Backrub back in the Stanford days.
Looking forward to the launch of Froogle Cool!
I've often wondered why, in all of the attempts to mimic google's toolbar, no one has ever reproduced the handy pagerank indicator; I began hacking at it, wondering if I'll be the first, only to run into a brick wall.
/search?client=navclient-auto&googleip=O;216.239.5 3.104;131&ch=53856195705&freshness_check=3f1eAVUrj Mj2meFfx-IZI&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&features=Rank&q=inf o:http%3A%2F%2Fslashdot%2Eorg%2F HTTP/1.1
Here's the request it sends; if you duplicate it with telnet or whatever, it really will spit out slashdot's pagerank:
GET
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; GoogleToolbar 1.1.70-big; Windows XP 5.1)
Host: 216.239.53.104
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: keep-alive
But there's a little program, the ch= field. That's a special hash of "http://slashdot.org," and if you don't send it, it doesn't work.
So as I continue attempting to work out the algorithm for this mysterious hash, I wonder: why has Google gone to such great lengths to make sure nobody duplicates the toolbar's pagerank indicator? Would a copy of that feature for Mozilla's google toolbar really be so awful?
I made a PHP/MySQL library that prevents SQL injection & makes coding easier!
One thing I'm not sure of is why new searches in the search box from the original URL return a num=0 instead of whatever number you have set as the number of results you wish to see on google
The num=x is an offset; it tells the script how far into the results to index. So the correct way to display the first set of results is to start at result 0 (or skip 0 results, if you want to think of it that way). Num=20 would be the second page of results at 20 per page, since it tell Google which result to start with when displaying the page.
Personally, I'm glad Google has come this far. I started using Google first in early 1999, and quite frankly, it's great to see that the basic search hasn't quite changed all these years (although Google has, obviously, added features).
More than mere navel gazing.
How is the parent post a troll? It provided useful answers, and was funny, too.
I had often thought someone should write about "Slashdot trolling phenomena". I didn't realize someone already had.
I still recommend you install the full (but inofficial) Google Bar to get the most out of Firebird + Google. It is nice to have a built-in like they have, but the full thing does so much more. :)
La engine du cherchez Frannnncais!!
:-(
Desole, mais les clients autres que le '.fr' ne permet pas.
== Jez ==
Do you miss Firefox? Try Pale Moon.
They are my primary search engine. I just like their technology.
I also feel that Google shouldn't be a complete monopoly (when is that ever good?) and that others who do good job should be encouraged.
Alltheweb.com is quite good too...
Treehugger? Treehugger... Treehugger!
I guess google is no longer affiliated with itself, from the google cache of google: Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its content.
Sig: I stole this sig.
Do you remember the "bad old days" before SEs and the Internet? We often recall an article of news that may be relevant to a discussion with friends and colleagues. We want to retrieve the article, but we have already forgotten the title (or worse) the source of the article. With a SE, you can now find the article via the Internet. Many of the relevant articles shall remain on the Internet for a long time.
In general, any reasonably educated person (i. e. a person who distinguishes reputable news sources from unreputable news sources) can now have ready access to high-quality information about almost any subject of interest. Just go to the SE and do a search. In this way, SEs and the Internet benefit society greatly. Now, we can more intelligently make decisions about the actions of governments and whole societies since we can easily retrieve and review the previously read information that is necessary for those decisions. Agents of deception seeking to manipulate, for example, American society and American government will be defeated. With the power of the SEs and the Internet, we can more easily distinguish lies from truths.
A case in point is "Reality of Taiwan". I was able to retrieve key information that might have been lost in the "bad old days" before the SEs and the Internet. Using the retrieved information (which comes from reputable Western sources), I constructed an accurate image of Taiwan. This image is the same one that senior government officials have contructed in the highest echelons of the American government. The image is quite shocking to the general American public, which Taiwanese agents (including paid lobbyists, Taiwanese politicians, etc.) have long manipulated.
Another reason Google triumphed is not just that tech gets a priority, it's that there's any tech at all. Before Disney took it over, Infoseek was a really innovative and sophisticated search engine. This seemed to stop suddenly when Disney changed the name to Go and decided it had to be a "portal" -- meaning helping people find the right site was less important than helping people find your site. So the search engine languished, and even the spidering got half-assed. Which lost them all the users that they needed in the first place.
But the biggest reason Google is so damned kewl is that they've resisted the temptation to go public for so long. All the founders would be rich by now if they'd gone that route. Though that would have meant ceding control of the company to a bunch of Wall Street idiots. So would you rather be rich, or have a cool place to work? People don't usually make the right choice when asked that question.
The other night I saw an aweful movie with a cool Gogoel reference - "Maid in Manhattan" with Jennifer Lopez. In the movie she has this son who is obsessed with the 70's and within the first ten minutes of this disaster of a movie, there is a pretty cool dialog.
The kid is asking J Lo how Simon and Garfunkel broke up. She says to him "you can google it at school".
I wonder if this is the first pop culture reference to "google" the verb.
I also wonder if the writers knew it would be the only interesting part of the movie.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
The reason their is a Opera complaint icon at the bottom is for mutual benifit. In opera you can type "a searchterm" in the URL bar to search alltheweb directly, alltheweb repay the favour by linking to Opera. Also both companies are based in the same city.
started using Google because of the "more evil than satan himself" index?
Before the news hit about that, I wasn't even aware of Google. Happy Birthday!
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
:wq
I think Google is a great example of capitalism at work. It succeeds based entirely on the quality of their product. Their competition is just a click away, but people use their product because its good. People geniunely like to company because their product is so good. I say, hats off to Google!
There is no need for me to contrast this situation to Microsoft...
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
You have got to be kidding me. Taiwan supports the geopolitical aspirations of Beijing? Are you smoking some of SCO's crack? Good god, how naive.
I had a hard time remmebering, but before Google I always used:
- WebCrawler
- MetaCrawler
- AltaVista
- InfoSeek
Metacrawler is still good sometmes when Google isn't returning completely desirable results (hey, it happens), but other than that, I didn't even know any of these searches where still active. I wonder if they all use Google software now?CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
Don't we all love the google logos...
Here is the guy behind them : logo guy
Life starts at the end of your comfort zone.
I know. I was just using that to show that it really isn't "Fair and Balanced," just as FOX News isn't.
blog & fiction: jd87
Check out http://www.google.com and search for:
answer to life, the universe, and everything
Comment removed based on user account deletion
Or if you use Opera.
This is my digital signature. 10011011001
Just a couple of quibbles...
2. Google records everything they can: It's obviously that they have to record some information to function, but everyone expects information to be collected in aggregate. If someone can say that google has all my search terms linked to my IP address, with dates and times, then I would be concerned.
The problem is not aggregation. The issue is personal data. If I know you search for slash stories, and have a thing for Mr. Wharf, I can make certain other assumptions, which may or may not be something we want to encourage in the wider framework of our culture.
5. Google hires spooks: Any large company has people that have been emplayed in unusual places. That doesn't show any rational link.
I have a problem with former spies working for Google. Much like the airline industry, there is a revolving door bewtween government and industry. I do believe that Google is too prone to making nice-nice with creepy countries, be that China or, well, now, the US. That said, they seem to want to be rational, but the past behaviour does not inspire trust.
I forget what 8 was for.
i'm looking for a new search engine already, since you can't find kazaa lite ++ on there anymore....
http://www.kazaalite.tk/
thank you.
rhy
I hold very few opinions. I hold information based on observation and fact. If you wish to disagree, please use facts.
..until it's a preposition.
"So I put the toothpaste google the breakbasket..."
mod me redundant, and you admit you say this everyday ;)
VIVA1023.com | Political Fashion.
Opera annoys me, Instead of going for standards compliance, they've sought to emulate every little IE bug, and even to present itself as IE in order to fool stupid webdesigners that try to refuse connection to browsers other than IE. It's not helping anyone, it's bug-emulation isn't perfect which creates it's own problems. I find Mozilla Firebird a much better, and standards compliant alternative.
It is up to you, there is a "quirks" mode and a "strict" mode. If the page designer specifieds a doctype opera redners to the standards presented in that doctype. If a designer is too stupid to know what a doctype is, Opera renders in quirks mode.
If you'd spent any time developing for these browsers you'd know that they all render differently, despite being in standards mode. Opera's problem is it mimics the bugs in IE, but doesn't do it perfectly. And I for one can't be bothered to edit my code to keep an annoying commercial browser like Opera happy.
Well I'm no expert "web-programmer".
lol