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Fedora Core 2 released to Mirrors, Bittorrent
tom taylor writes "Fedora Core 2 has been released to mirrors, due for public consumption on Tuesday 18th May. However, you can grab it now via BitTorrent, so get it while it's fresh! It's available in both the 4 CD or DVD versions."
Despite all recent negative publicity, Fedora is a great distro for the hobbyist desktop. I've been running FC1 since its release without any problems. I wish they'd stuck to 3 CDs though. IIRC, the 4th CD consists of lots of languages (and nothing else) so most people can skip it. Kernel 2.6, gnome 2.6, kde 3.2... can't wait.
You know in my day DOS3.3 still fit on one 1.44 floppy!
I know it's a test platform but do they need to include a test copy of war and peace with EVERY release? Does anyone have a particulary clever reason (besides source disks) why it needs to be this frigging big?
This is one of the big reasons I switched to Debian, I didn't want to get sadled with a multigig *BASIC* install. No flame wars, please, but for my personal taste I can't fathom RH any more.
I would rather be ashes than dust!
test3 came out at the end of April.
this is the final
Why not put it on a P2P network like eDonkey? People will probably have other downloads moving at the same time, so the particular file will have much more sources for a much longer period of time than with Bittorrent.
Really, Bittorrent seems like a poor solution to a problem better solved by real P2P software.
Software piracy is victimless theft.
Use the official torrent when it appears on the tracker:
http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/
Why is it so big? Well they give you a lot of packages on the CD but these packages needs to be updated later. Anyone who knows how much disk space a full/medium/tiny install requires?
only being 'used' if you provide bugreports, etc.
How many people actually do this? Very few. And why are you complaining, you get a free operating system in the process.
A minimal install of FC2 will be 500-something MB.
The "everything" install is considerably smaller than full Debian, which is amazingly (in a good way) comprehensive.
As you well know, your DOS 3.3 floppy had no applications and barely any useful tools. You can do better than that these days with a single (or, okay, probably two) floppy distro with blackbox.
Which you could *make* using Fedora, if you wanted.
Anyone know if it's possible to upgrade through Yum repositories? I don't know about you, but after the 3 CDs of Core 1, I'm a bit annoyed at the extra 6 for Core 2 :-\
newer things. better versions. faster. bugfixes. security fixes.
I can keep going if you like.
there are plenty of reasons to upgrade your operating system and/or kernel.
Did they release Core2 For the PPC?
-Imidazole2
If you've got a big connection and can just apt-get/yum/emerge the upgrades, then why not bother - you'll be getting the latest and greatest versions of the software, which can really only be better than the last ones. Dunno how feasible this is in Fedora though and I appreciated that 6 CDs for non-obvious improvements may be a bit much.
emerge -UD world is a very, very dangerous way to upgrade your system.
emerge -Du world is the way to be. the U implies upgradeonly, when really a bad patch could have been applied. -u keeps you at the latest and greatest version. U can very easily break your system, even if you are Johnny Careful.
I ran RH6.2 for the longest time, but ran into problems with tring to update some programs, and really ran into problems trying to install it on my laptop (2 years ago) that was when I updated, when I couldn't do everything I wanted with it. I still have yet to find a distro that I like as much.
Unlike traditional P2P, Bittorrent was designed especially for purposes like this: Getting large files out to a lot of a people in a relatively short time. Mirrors simply do not scale for this, and those traditional P2P networks like eDonkey are way too slow for downloading something as large as FC.
I don't know about you, but I actually like being able to download the entire set of ISOs in under 12 hours, rather than waiting the required week for my downloads to finish like on other P2P networks.
oh yeh just as a P.S., the official schedule is here
As a user who migrated my box from FC1 to Gentoo 2004.1, emerge world is all well and good - once you have the thing installed. After the luxuries of anaconda, untarring and compiling the whole system yourself is somewhat tiresome and you are bound to get most of it wrong the first time.
Don't get me wrong, I am a devout Gentoo convert and wouldn't use anything else now, but for someone coming from the graphical handholding of Fedora, the Gentoo install is like walking blind. And heaven help you if you didn't print off the install manual - better hope those Fedora disks are still lying around for you to get your internet connection back after attempt #1.
And people talk about windows bloat...*sheesh*
I tried Fedora recently using a DVD install on my Shuttle w/Athlon XP2400. This was the only distro that completely got lost and went away when trying to start X-Windows. Had to hit reset to start over but eventually gave up. Debian, SuSe and Mandrake all installed fine. Don't know why it happened, but there it is.
In other words, this is test4.
...and I know a lot of other people in the community who don't do that, sure some people will turn their client off straight away but then some people on kazaa or whatnot will just turn off sharing and be e leach.
I've got my bittorrent client (Azureus) running 24x7 but only sharing torrents that need seeders. I stop seeding when there is a seed for every 4 peers (as long as I've upped 50%). When the seed/peer ratio goes down I have Azureus auto start the torrent and continue uploading. This way I give my bandwidth to those torrents that need it most.
I also leave my computer on at night and since I'm on broadband with no cap I keep it uploading stuff. Hey, I'm paying for always on so I may as well use it, plus I'm not saturating the local loop during the day and pissing off other people.
I am NaN
FedoraNews.org has a great tip on installing the isos over NFS . This way you can save yourself a few blank CDs and the actual installation takes no time at all.
Because I'd really post a verbatim account of personal experience with my favourite distro, non-AC , just for the hell of trolling O.O Maybe it's flamebait for those without the same experiences, but troll it isn't. Mods these days...
Gentoo already did. I'm asking for the benefit of my little brother's box - he likes the look and feel of Fedora and I'm not going to try a source-distro on his ancient i586 ;)
No it isn't. May 14 was the release to mirrors date. This is a part of that I understand. It's the real thing.
...I regularly max out my connection (512k ADSL) downloading a torrent. It gets to the point where the net is unusable it's sucking that much bandwidth. So I use it at night when I'm in bed. Last night I downloaded 1750 MiB in ~8 hours.
Remember, download rate is dependant on your upload rate so if you're only upping at 1k/s you won't be downloading that fast, other peers play tit-for-tat and choke you (don't honour your requests) if you upload blocks too slowly.
I am NaN
Apparently there are some systems that yum simply can't handle because it has to update the system while it is "online" (e.g. LVM). So it looks like the answer is "it depends on your set up".
See Seth Videl's post about it. My advice is to wait and see what the pitfalls are since there *will* be gotchas.
...hmm. advogato's being a bit strange today so let me post a quote:
Unfortunately, when I followed the story's link to bit torrent, and then looked for a bit torrent RPM for to use on my Fedora system, I learned that ... there doesn't seem to be such an RPM available.
I guess I'll be downloading this Fedora update in the old-fashioned way.
I'm getting an average of 200k. I may have connected at a later time. If you're still not getting fast speeds, try this:
Get Bittornado. If you're getting a yellow lighty it's because you're getting torrents from a firewally. Forward TCP portys 6881-6945 to your system, disconnect, and try againy.
I'm not a newb.
To each point in the faq:
- Be patient, wait for others. Thats the point of my post.
- Make sure torrent is live. Check - downloading is occuring.
- Limiting upload rate can help. Check - its limited.
- Allow outgoing connections. Check - its wide-open, and obviously working, since I mentioned people downloading from me.
- Don't use NAT. Check - not using NAT.
- Firewall has openings for all ports needed.
So whats your brilliant idea, moron.
GPL'd web-based tradewars themed space game
The idea is that the company distributes the torrent have set up a seeder. This way, if nobody besides your are downloading, you'll still get good download rates because you are the only one accessing the primary seeder. If the primary seeder gets overloaded, it wont matter much since your btclient will download from one of the many other client downloading the file.
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Think of this as a peer2peer accelerated download server, not a peer2peer network.
try giving this a look:
http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/introduc
This scalability is the primary reason that mandrake and blizzard is using BT, chances are this why fedora is using it too.
The Fedora Core 2 schedule release schedule indicates that this the final Core 2 release.
The core was supposed to be released for mirrors on the morning of May 14th, then the open release will be announced on May 18th. Presumably there should be sufficient mirrors to manage to the load by then.
If you're getting a yellow lighty it's because you're getting torrents from a firewally. Forward TCP portys 6881-6945 to your system, disconnect, and try againy.
Thanky for thisy tipsy, my Swedishy friendy. Borky bork.
"Oppression and harassment is a small price to pay to live in the land of the free." -- Montgomery Burns.
Is it possible to update FC1 to FC2 via yum?
I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
That's all well and good for those of us that know how to do a recompile, but for Joe User it could be a bit of a hang-up.
Error 404 - Sig Not Found
Seriously, I haven't run Linux in a while so I have no preference as far as distros go. I'd be interested to know how this turns out and what you normally install on the Shuttle. Thanks.
-truth
I had a steady B+ in my AI class until I failed the Turing test...
Finally. KDE .3.2, Gnome 2.6 and kernel 2.6 out to the masses! So much easier than using Konstruct, Garnome etc for most new linux users.
Can we consider this the debut of these three technolgies to the masses? I like to think so. I can't wait to install it on my machine, my brothers machine, my mothers machine my....
We should all be proud of the Linux, KDE and Gnome community and send our thanks:)
Thank you!
What kind of support does FC2 have for nforce chipsets and geforce video? Should I download the drivers from nvidia's site and burn them onto disk before installing FC2 (as I had to do with RH9).
And a more general question, do any distro's ship with support for nvidia hardware "out-of-box"?
A long time ago I switched from redhat to mandrake. I wonder if it's time to switch back.
___
If you think big enough, you'll never have to do it.
I noticed that previous versions of Fedora Core were available for the x86_64 architecture, but all the links that I have seen are for i386. Anyone have a torrent for the x86_64 arch, or an estimated release date? Then the only thing I'll be waiting for are the ATI x86_64 drivers.
When I goto Fedora I see not a single link to download Fedora Core 2. On the mirrors I get 550 permission denied or could change directory?? Is this story genuine? Regards
One of the reasons that Bittorrent doesn't go faster is that there is to few upload-slots pr default on the bt-clients.
Please add the option --max_uploads 20 if you have good bandwidth, and you help all others get their cd's, and eventualy, you get better access in downloading because everybody is downloading from you, other people starts to get free upload slots.
I just want to express my gratitude to the Fedora developers and community for releasing a well-packaged operating system. I upgraded from Fedora Core 2 - Test 3 to the official release via yum, and it has been working great. Very stable, fast, and featureful.
Thanks again!
Daniel
Remember that this is a unofficial torrent, Core 2 will not be released to the public before tuesday.
x t
Read this about unofficial torrents:
http://livna.org/~anvil/fc2-torrents.t
You don't have to download everything if you're running FC2 Test3, simply update using yum.
yum -y update
This will bring everything up to the full FC2 release. I did this days ago (it's been out via yum repositories that long).
$ cat
Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang)
- Preferences: Solaris 10 (servers), Ubuntu (desktops), Solaris 11 (personal servers) -
For FC1 -> FC2 upgrading is NOT recommended using apt, yum or any other depsolver. Anaconda has a fair bit of magic to fix things for you. Most things are manually solvable but if you're using LVM "it has a high chance of blowing up spectacularly" according to the anaconda developers - don't bother unless you like blowing up systems :)
In any case upgrading with anaconda is the recommended way.
So it looks like they recommend getting the install disks and upgrading through the installer.
Please read the following before using an unofficial torrent to download FC2. Apparently, the official release of FC2 is not until Tuesday, and what you are downloading may or may not be the real FC2 release (it may be a Rawhide snapshot, or a trojaned distribution, for example). You can verify the signature on the MD5SUM file to check it, of course, but you'd have to waste your time and bandwidth downloading it first.
The scalloped tatters of the King in Yellow must cover
Yhtill forever. (R. W. Chambers, the King in Yellow
Has anyone actually verified that these ISOs are legit by using the Fedora GPG key?
tettnang
I know it might be an uncommon configuration, but the thing that really put me off fedora/redhat was that it, up to FC1 at least didn't have support for multiple sound cards. It simply detected one fairly arbitrarily and told you that was what sound card you have. I found redhat a little hard to hack so I went back to debian and was happy. Windows allows me to use multiple sound cards and prioritise them ... why can't RH/fedora?
Any news on a new ATI driver? I'm guessing not.
The DVD and CD's will be added to the UCR ACMSERVER at 8pm this evening. It has 1 gigabit of bandwidth. Location: http://acmserver.cs.ucr.edu/fc2
Benjamin Arai http://www.benjaminarai.com
What kind of crack are you smoking? Seriously? I'm downloading it right now with the bittorrent rpm available on pbone which was easily found on the first page of a google search for "bittorrent fedora rpm"
----- - The beatings will continue until morale improves
I got the torrent for the cds and its been sitting here for 15 minutes not doing a thing. What are you guys downloading at currently?
Just in the installation program, check custom install, then go check off what you want. You can pare it down a lot that way. It's not as detailed as I would like it to be, but you can carve off big huge chunks if you want to on initial install.
You can also just keep what you have, wait for the downloads to settle down in a coupla weeks, then do just apt-get or yum upgrades in pieces as well. Well, or so I hear. I've never done it, but they claim you can. I'm on dialup, so I just send off get the disks, a lot easier that way.
But ya,I know what you mean. In another discussion I was turned onto Vector Linux, basically shrunken redhat, go check it out.
I've been running a Test3 that was updated just after their 7 May freeze. Pretty slick.
If you're after a noisy, flashy Linux with umpteen ways to play music and videos, Fedora is not for you.
I you're after a professional piece of work that seems to have been built by adults for adults, look at Fedora.
-- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
That was exactly what i meant. Well there is one thing to add in your list. Since there is 4 cd's it is much easier to buy it than download it. So then we got, (5) More profit
I just edited the /etc/yum.conf and added the lines to the 1.92 release (rc3) and ran the yum update / upgrade and it worked fine.
I don't run LVM, however i was running the raid and tons of other features.
Machines are much more stable with rc3, so i'm anxious to plug the final in. Kernel 2.6 is much more reliable on HT & Xeons for me running java stuff in this release
Taking a look at the torrent file seems to suggest that the DVD version is just an ISO and nothing else. Be careful folks - without *signed* MD5SUMs you can't be sure of what you've downloaded.
So, the bittorrent rpm that's installed on my FC1 system is just a figment of my imagination? The very bittorrent install that's currently downloading FC2? Drat!
Same here. I posted earlier this morning similar effects, and it hasnt changed in several hours.
I see (thanks to bittornado) that there are people downloading at 300k+.. but I have ports forwarded, have been connected for some time now, have 15 peers, and yet 0 seeds.
My download rate has varied from 0-12k.
So far, Bittorrent blows in my book.
GPL'd web-based tradewars themed space game
I'm currently getting about 140KB/s, which on my link means I'm pretty well saturating the downlink.
If you're on an ADSL link, I've found it helps to limit upload rate (in my case, to 15KB/s). Otherwise, the uploads saturate the uplink and actually slow ACKs for the download. I don't know if that's your problem, but it definitely helped here.
Bittorrent isn't part of Fedora Core, but *is* in Fedora Extras (a.k.a. fedora.us). This hasn't been completely integrated into the main Fedora project yet, but for now you can find it at http://www.fedora.us/.
Or do I have to download 4 CDs of obscure programs I'll never use just to get a funcioning system with Gnome/KDE?
I downloaded test3's CD1 and even the minimal (400 MB) installation required more than one cd.
I've let it run for about 2 hours now with no luck - still the same problem. Is the tracker a victim of /.?
Problem connecting to tracker - timeout exceeded
Thanks for the tip, I have it limited though.
When I look at the other peers I see a long list of nobody getting crap for speed and then 3 or 4 who are getting anywhere from 100k to 500+k.
I have a theory as to why bittorrent sucks. Most people with fast download have slow upload. So the download links greatly outweight the upload the links.
12 people with 512 down and 256 up cannot all serve eachother at max speed, it just doesn't add up, even if the host server is 512 up it still doesn't add up. And it especially doesn't add up if they are limiting their upload rate.
I sure hope this isn't someone's 2gb release of test3 and is the real deal.
It would be really depressing to find I'm downloading at a rate that MIGHT get me this thing before tuesday just to find out I could have downloaded at full speed and had it in two hours come Tues.
The first person here to verify the integrity of the Torrents needs to post the results here for the rest of us. If this is FC2T3, then there is no reason everyone should keep distributing it the way we are...
Linux with kernel panic...
MadPenguin.org
No, they are properly forwarded. Bittornado shows the beautiful blue light, not the ugly yellow.
GPL'd web-based tradewars themed space game
Can you provide also a rsync server ? I have already downloaded all the packages so I just have to transfer a couple of Mbyte to complete the cd-images.
how can you upgrade to something that hasn't been released yet (remember, release date is in two days -- the 18th)?
Please disregard my previous post - obviously I don't know too well how bittorent works - it still modifies the MD5 sum of the first CD, so I guess it's not completely downloaded, yet.
You can't check the md5sums of the ISOs until the entire bittorrent download is complete. Bittorrent makes no guarantee that all of ISO 1 is finished downloading before you start getting ISO 2. It's common for bittorrent to go back and patch "holes" in files near the end of the download - and any gap in the file will mess up your md5sum check.
Ita erat quando hic adveni.
FYI I have been running the DVD image on a T1 1.5/1.5 for about 4 hours.
400Mb Downloaded
980Mb Uploaded
36 hours remaining....
Any idea how much should be downloaded if I update Test3 images via rsync? Could I use old images with BT?
if you could back that up with some umm... you know, information or evidence that would be super handy.
Can anyone varify this. With 700+ clients in teh torrent it would be a very bad if this is comprimised.
What could possibly go wrong?
So sitting on the back of our office T1 and getting 79 bytes a second.
Est finish time: 2443:08:30.
Woowoo!
Of course not, silly boy.
...users who value ease of use over and in place of technical merit, and users who themselves lack the technical prowess to develop more effectivve and efficient computing practices but still wish to identify themselves with an elitist technical community.
>>
First of all, no conflict exists between ease of use and technical merit. Deleting a file using "rm" or with a mouse get you to the same place and do the same thing.
Second, the technical community, if there is one, is no more elite than the marketing community, or the realtor community, or the barber community. The elitism in the tech community is bogus, and primarily finds expression in the arrogance many of its members express toward anyone else. It's rather like someone prancing around arguing that people who drive cars with autotmatic transmissions are trying to "leverage" a little glory from the "elite auto mechanic community".
>>...they are rightly the target of ridicule in the legitimate FOSS technocrat community
For using the same damn software that's in every other bleeding Linux distribution? Fedora drops a couple mp3 players, uses a Gnome theme that doesn't glow in the dark, and gets beat up for it. By some nonexistent "legitimate FOSS technocrat community".
>> The Redhat: Fedora Core product is for users who:
# Would prefer to use the tools prescribed for them by others or by default in their corporate environment.
Well, like I said, it's the same damn software. And, if your boss owns the hardware, your boss gets to "prescribe" the software that's on it.
# Value a shiny, flashy system initialization screen where essential details are hidden by a pretty picture.
It's not shiny or flashy. It's rather dark and blue and it just sits there and does nothing. ANd those intitialization details are not essential to a user, who won't understand them anyway. They get paid to work, not understand Linux messages.
-- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
In soviet russia, Linux disables your Windows installation.
BT can use push or pull to both download and upload files. The announce method contacts all clients you're connected to with what you have.
So say you're behind a firewall.
-You ask the tracker for peers, and see me.
-You connect to me and ask me what I have.
-I say "these bits," you ask for some and start sending.
-I ask you (on that same socket) "hey, what do you have?"
-You tell me, I try to connect to you, and fail. I tell you I failed, and say "hey, you connect to ME and send me these bits"
-you do so, and you're uploading!
The problem with firewalls is (obviously) two people with unholed firewalls in place cannot communicate. BT could eventually try some SIP style tricks to get around it, but for now at least one of you has to have ports open.
Fedora Core 1 runs fine under VirtualPC 6. The Core 2 tests have all installed fine and then refused to boot, crashing straight after the booting kernel message. Posts to the test list have not met with any helpful replies. Does anyone know if the final release of Core 2 works in VirtualPC?
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This indicates that the MD5SUM has been verified correctly with the indicated key
This indicates that gpg can't find a chain of signatures from either your key or from a key marked as 'trusted' in the trust database to this particular key. If you've never signed anyone else's key, or you're never maintained the trust database in gpg, you can pretty well expect to get this message on any file you verify. It's pretty well meaningless unless you've taken steps to use the 'web of trust' features in pgp/gpg. Unless you're really paranoid, I wouldn't worry about the validity of the signature
[root@mrsparkle FC2-i386-isos]# gpg --verify MD5SUM
.torrent appears to be legit.
gpg: Signature made Thu 13 May 2004 03:25:04 PM EDT using DSA key ID 4F2A6FD2
gpg: Good signature from "Fedora Project "
[root@mrsparkle FC2-i386-isos]# md5sum -c MD5SUM
FC2-i386-disc1.iso: OK
FC2-i386-disc2.iso: OK
FC2-i386-disc3.iso: OK
FC2-i386-disc4.iso: OK
FC2-i386-rescuecd.iso: OK
The only thing I can't verify is the boot.iso. No MD5SUM was provided. This
Well, my bit-torrent is sitting here reading 0.0 for the last 20 mins. SuprNova show people are d/ling and I assume it's the quota that's holding me up, but I wonder...
...are you behind a firewall or router? Are you natted? All these things can affect dl speed. If you are natted make sure that you forward the ports. You wouldn't believe the number of people who diss Bittorrent because they get crap speeds. When probed slightly deeper 9 times out of 10 they are using some sort of router (linksys et al) which is between them and the internet - at which point I run them through Networking 101 and explain why, how to fix it and lo and behold they come back and say "wow...now I see what you mean".
Of course, it could be because there's 1 seed and 20000 peers, with the 1 seed upping at 1k/s. Sucks? Yup, deal with it and wait until there a more seeds. Normally though after the release of a new torrent the people on fast pipes are able to download and start seeding large files after 10 or so minutes, if not less.
I am NaN
Well, if it is, they've managed to get hold of or cracked Fedora's signing key, as the MD5SUM does validate to that key.
Can't wait to download and test SELinux, which should work out of the box. It's disabled by default, but you should be able to enable it by adding add "selinux" to the install line when installing. More information: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/selinux/
I used the torrent mentioned...4 F2A6FD2.t xt
i so was 824f016217c93b8aa06b59d003882ab0i so was a66b43f876e47658405a8dd6603388bci so was c736f8048b12315b5c0b070de1d74867 which is good!
1 86 FC2-i386-disc2.iso9 0e FC2-i386-disc3.iso8 67 FC2-i386-disc4.isof 98 FC2-i386-DVD.isof FC2-i386-rescuecd.iso
The MD5SUM file checked out against the key I found on the Fedora site...
http://fedora.redhat.com/about/security/
But most of my MD5s didn't match the MD5SUM file.
My md5sums:
FC2-i386-disc1.iso was 6d601e663bb242fa449deb8eecfdc707
FC2-i386-disc2.
FC2-i386-disc3.
FC2-i386-disc4.
This did not match the MD5SUM text file below:
c366d585853768283dac6cdcefcd3a2d FC2-i386-disc1.iso
fc3c926442cc85a469268651bd04c
5ad870e696953f4bbd0a919368738
c736f8048b12315b5c0b070de1d74
2d8a20014af287bf8c6b29f2da031
22f4bfca5baefe89f0e04166e738639
Anyone have similar results? Or is it me?
-b
If anybody was looking for an update without downloading the entire isos to do it, if you have apt, add this to your sources.list: rpm http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora fedora/2/i386 os updates rpm-src http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora.us/fedora fedora/2/i386 os updates rpm http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/2/i386 os updates rpm-src http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/ fedora/2/i386 os updates
I think it's you:
The failures on the DVD and the SRPM isos, I expect because they aren't included. The 4 install disks and the rescue disk look good.
Forgive a n00b question. I do not understand all the subtleties of md5sums and how they relate to determining authenticity of source.
My ISO files match the md5sum file included, but does that mean that they are really from fedora? Or does it just mean that the ISOs I have are the ones that were inteneded to be sent over the torrert...ie. no corrupted files?
Shouldn't we be using a resource FROM ferdora against the ISOs to determine they really do come from Fedora?
I'd really hate to install and discover I have a modified version of FCtest3 with a bad habit of spamming every mail server it can contact.
Would someone be kind enough to show me how I can determine that these files do indeed come from fedora? I'll let you download the files from a new and unburdened server with a 100mbit internet connection if you do...
ftp://acmserver.cs.ucr.edu/fc2 Will have the CD isos soon.
Benjamin Arai http://www.benjaminarai.com
Get it from here (Gigabit): ftp://acmserver.cs.ucr.edu/fc2
Benjamin Arai http://www.benjaminarai.com
The matching by itself only means the latter - that the files you received aren't corrupted.
What gives some confidence that the files are from Fedora is the fact that the MD5SUM file is digitally signed by Fedora's signing key. Once you've installed the Fedora Project's key into your gpg keyring (run
), you can verify this by runningSince the MD5 checksums are digitally signed by the Fedora Project, you can be pretty confident those checksums come from the Fedora Project, and since the torrent files match the checksums, you can be pretty confident that these files come from Fedora.
I meant: Get it from here (Gigabit): ftp://acmserver.cs.ucr.edu
Benjamin Arai http://www.benjaminarai.com
I think you're right!
-b
Does anyone know how well the included OpenOffice.org is integrated with the rest of the desktop? This is the main thing that keeps me coming back to Ximian -- their OOo is extremely well-integrated. Xft2/fontconfig support throughout, tight hooks to CUPS and Ghostscript so you don't have to futz around with the printers separately (once it's defined in the OS, it's defined in OOo, and there's really no excuse to have otherwise).
How does Fedora Core 2 do in this department?
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So it's basically like passive-mode FTP. Gotcha.
Thanks for the info!
The biggest problem with BitTorrent is the centralized tracker. There are (I assume) enough people downloading this that I should be getting great download speeds, but instead I'm getting:
error(s): [20:46:22] Problem connecting to tracker - timeout exceeded
"It sure was strange to see something on Usenet about me that didn't involve Klingon gang rape." -- Wil Wheaton
First of all, to correct some of the absurd rumor and inuendo running around, yes, these files are genuine and they match checksums signed by the fedora@redhat.com GPG key. So if you can't trust that you can't trust the distributor in general....
Now, for all of the snotty people who were poo-pooing BitTorrent because their downloads weren't going a million megs a second, let me explain precisely why:
YOU WEREN'T INVITED
Y'see, the torrent that got posted to Slashdot was never intended for widespread consumption. The tracker was hosted on an individual's home DSL via a java client and simply wasn't expected to handle the load of widespread usage. Once the hordes of gimmie gimmie kiddies showed up it fell right over. Repeatedly. No wonder you couldn't get a decent transfer rate and your connections were timing out. Then, to make matters worse, half of the people who started connecting in the first big wave decided to disconnect and throw their downloads in the trash. Boy, that's going to help a torrent with one seed just a whole bunch. And again, let's remind ourselves: YOU WEREN'T INVITED.
So now there's a new tracker and faster seeds and things are moving along nicely. And now you're invited. I'm sure you won't disappoint us by disconnecting your client the instant your download is done.
http://kuix.de/fedora/
Thank you for your patience and cooperation.
I don't know if I'm suffering from buster browser cache, but the official site (http://fedora.redhat.com/) hasn't been updated with news of this release, nor has the usual official Torrent location (http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/)?
:)
Also, the fact that the torrents are on Suprnova makes me a bit suspicious (not that I'm casting aspersions on the quality of that site - I'd download them to check them out but I don't want the FEDS to see me hitting that site with BitTorrent
fedora.redhat.com is still showing test 3. That seems odd to me. Why would some other site have the release version before the project's site? Am I just being paranoid?
Did you mount a military-grade, variable-focus MASER on an unlicensed artificial intelligence?
Is it me, or is the torrent's tracker down?
http://blog.nexusuk.org
I'm not in much of a hurry, so I'll go for the boot.iso which creates a CD which can be used for a network install from your favorite mirror.
Does anyone have a Torrent tracker for boot.iso ?
(Yes, I know that the mirrors will be slow. Maybe the installer will have a "torrent" option in the future next to "ftp" and "http"....)
-- From Denmark
There's only one problem: The MD5SUM file does not contain an MD5 checksum for the boot.iso contained in the torrent.
Am I too paranoid?
Can anyone give any hint towards the authenticity of the boot.iso?
while (!asleep()) sheep++
Getting timeouts now to the tracker, after almost fully downloading, and uploading almost 4GB... Damn it!
Anyone know what happened?
-- Note: If you don't agree with me, don't bother replying. I won't read it.
ftp://ftp.gaminguk.net/Mirrors/fedora_FC2_bittorre nt_cd_iso/
Hi. i ve just made a clean FC2 install. when i do a yum update, i get error 403 (forbidden). the path to the repository seems ok . moreover the RHipdate agent indicates no updates available (what seems normal to me) anyone with that behaviour ?
There are people working on it(PPC), and also on SPARC. Near future.
Today 'only' runs on x86 and x86-64
Looks good to me.
# gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 4f2a6fd2
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
gpg:
gpg: key 4F2A6FD2: public key "Fedora Project " imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: imported: 1
# gpg --verify MD5SUM
gpg: Signature made Thu 13 May 2004 02:25:04 PM CDT using DSA key ID 4F2A6FD2
gpg: Good signature from "Fedora Project "
gpg: checking the trustdb
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: CAB4 4B99 6F27 744E 8612 7CDF B442 69D0 4F2A 6FD2
Thanks for the great directions man. So, Oloryn, want access to the server before it gets crowded?
And quite buggy. Not quite sure what that's got to do with Virtual PC though.
Give it a shot, let me know what kind of speeds you get, and if you want web hosting with us, check us out at http://www.serversunderthesun.com The mirror is here - FC2-i386-disc1.iso
-Imidazole2
I Googled for that MD5sum, and got this: which contained the following: But when I used GPG to get the fedora@redhat.com keys off of a public keyserver, I got:Uhhh. Should I be worried here? Can anyone validate this md5sum before I risk it?
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Read here if you're still trying to download from the original torrent
The tracker posted in the original torrent apparently couldn't handle the traffic. After some digging, I was able to find another. You should just be able to resume where you left off.
http://kuix.de/fedora/fedora-core-2-DVD.torrent