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Gateway's 7200 line uses BTX.

and please tell me what nvidia or ATI card handles 4 head.

this one does (this particular page had specs, google for quadro4 400 nvs pci). A little old and hard to find, though, as this is not nVidia's hottest market.

Wish i had the money to drop on a real tapeless cam. Bought one of these last week along with a 512MB SD card for parties. Mixed reviews, but the price is right for a poor college student.

admittedly, i've never understood the all-in-one idea, seeing as i'd much rather have the modularity of a separate box and monitor.

now, what gets me about this hip-e, and the imac g5, is that people seem to think that the flatpanel all-in-one thing is new, and even better, since apple made it...

which isn't the case, because gateway (a crap company, imho), had a model that was like that a few years back. sure, it was ugly, but... [ gateway profile ]

And when will Gateway sue Gateway?

The Profile 4 isn't being made, that's because the Profile 5 series is around now. That would be a more useful comparison. That doesn't change your point (which I agree with) since the specs are nearly identical, just some info.

Since then, there have been no compelling reasons to get a newer Mac. The Blue-and-White was by-and-large a "future proof" machine, like it was advertised to my bosses at the Dot-Com I used to work at. The machine was loaned to me for telecommuting and when the company went bust I was able to buy it from them at fire-sale prices with part of my last paycheck.

The new iMac is the first Mac that has really screamed "UPGRADE TO ME!" in a while. My Blue-and-White is getting long in the tooth now, and even with 512MB RAM it struggles a little.

Do any of you realize just how hot this machine will be once the first 64-bit version of MacOS comes out???? No, I don't mean cooling problems, I mean hot as in bitchen. Agreed, they should have gone with a better Nvidia video chipset, (but I suspect the 5200 is a choice for power draw and heat as well as low price) and it should have come standard with more RAM, but dig: it's still pretty good.

And let me point out something else. Compare this all-in-one machine to the 32-bit Gateway Profile 4, which is no longer a production machine and is selling through Gateway's site as a refurb. Los Angeles Valley College has a computer lab full of these low-end machines, bought when they were still new.

Even as a refurbished machine, this is selling for $1,200 US. This is with Windows XP Home (not Pro, Home) and Works (not Office) pre-installed, a basic tray-load CD-ROM, Intel "Extreme Graphics" (anyone who's worked with it knows how laughable this term is) and 10/100 Ethernet.

Now look at the iMac G5's specs. The low-end machine is only $100 US more expensive new than the refurbed Gateway Profile 4. For this, you get a CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drive, Firewire to go with your USB, (and I don't know whether the Gateway POS has USB2 or USB 1.1 USB ports) and a wide-screen 17" TFT as opposed to a regular 4:3 17" TFT. Spend $200 more and you get a DVD-/+RW "Superdrive."

Yes, you pay a premium for Apple products. However, as you can see, the premium isn't very much at all. This is a 64-bit xNIX workstation we are talking about here. For only $300 more than a steaming cow-flop from Gateway. (I know from whence I speak about the Gateway: I have seen too many of those Profile 4 machines in the computer lab with "out of order" signs taped in front of them.) Apple builds things, by and large, to last. And yes, they design them to look pretty damn cool.

Maybe next June I can convince the remainders of my family to chip in on one of these as a grad present.

Maybe we can compare the Apple G5 iMac to the Gateway Profile® 5XL-C AIO.

The specs on the Gateway are as follows:

Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Application Software: Microsoft® Works Suite 2004 - including Microsoft® Word and Encarta
Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 3.2GHz w/ Hyper-Threading Technology, 800MHz FSB and 1MB L2 Cache
Memory: 512MB 400MHz DDR SDRAM (2-256MB modules)
Hard Drive: 160GB Ultra ATA100 7200rpm hard drive w/ 8MB performance enhancing cache
Floppy Drive: Integrated 1.44MB 3.5" floppy diskette drive
Optical Drive: Integrated DVD±R/±RW/CD-RW recorder
Extended Service Plan Including Limited Warranty: Desktop Value Service Plan -- 1 year parts/labor/no on-site/1 year technical support
Expansion Slots: (1) Type II PC card slot
External Ports: (6) USB 2.0 ports (2 side, 4 rear), (1) Serial (back), (1) Parallel, (2) PS/2
Input/Output Jacks: Line-in, line-out and mic (back), headphone and mic (front), VGA-out (in back on NVIDIA® graphics configurations)[?], VGA-in
Dimensions: 16.93" x 18.66" x 7.41" (WxHxD), approximately 25.4lb.
Screen: 19" LCD flat panel display
Video: Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 with 64MB shared memory buffer
Keyboard and Mouse: Gateway Wireless Keyboard/Wireless Optical Mouse
Multimedia Package: Integrated sound and stereo speakers
Modem/Wireless: V.92 56k modem
Network Adapter: Integrated Intel® 10/100/1000 Ethernet (Gigabit) adapter

Price is $1999 USD, 100 more than the top of the line iMac. What are the differences?

Extremely crappy video on the Gateway. Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 with 64MB shared memory buffer WTF? The Apple card (NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra w/64MB video memory) isn't the greatest, but at least it's a card, with it's very own memory. I couldn't find a way to upgrade the Gateway's video on their web page.

iMac offers digital optical out, Gateway doesn't.

Gateway offers wireless keyboard and mouse standard, on the iMac it's a $99 upgrade.

Gateway offers 256 more RAM.

The Gateway AIO offers 2 FW ports (like the Mac) but one of them is a 4 pin connector? (WTF? Why? That's like wearing a three fingered glove because your friend (Sony) lost a couple of fingers in an accident.)

Oh, and the Gateway 19" screen is not widescreen.

However the deal killer for me is that the Gateway offers a built in floppy drive. Apple does not. Joke!

1. Rename registry run keys (I append a + sign)
2. Newer versions on Windows delete all Browser "Helper" Objects in the registry
3. Create move items in Startup group to a new directory (startold)
4. Comment out RUN= and LOAD= in win.ini
5. Make sure SHELL= in system.ini only lists explorer or progman

With the number of times I did this, the process was about 60 seconds + reboot time (a little longer with XP) before going though and deleting the applications.

Regedit is your friend.

Yah, uh-huh. I was (working for) one of Alan B. Clegg's customers around '93 or so: http://www.zug.com/pranks/outgoing/gateway.html/ And, even though this suggests Alan prevailed: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/property/domain/gatew ay.html/ This: http://www.gateway.com/ seems to suggest that the Gway2K now has the domain. Anybody know the rest of the story?

While the Averatec is priced right, for the extra cash I rather have one of Gateway's line of Tablet PCs. They're about $400 more, but you get the Gateway name and warranty (although I'm not quite sure how much that is worth these days). Also they use Pentium Ms which have better battery life over the XP-Ms. However if you're on a budget, this system looks nice.

Sony is ... opening retail stores to showcase Sony products

Wow, I hope that tactic works better than it did for Gateway.

There is a firmware update you can download here

Gateway has all in one systems too and with full powered desktop processors too. I don't see this being very useful for PCs. The base on most LCD monitors is already big and heavy enough to fit some decent desktop CPU hardware. Have you looked at a monitor base? It's all dead weight to balance to LCD panel.

It wasn't that hard, there's the Gateway 840 2TB Serial-ATA Raid Enclosure. It only holds 12 drives vs. the Xserve RAID's 14 but with 12 250GB drives it's only $7,528 for 3000GB or roughly $2.50/GB. The 840's drives are SATA rather than PATA and the external interface is Ultra320 SCSI vs. the more expensive FiberChannel which also makes it cheaper to own. You could probably get it to be even cheaper by buying fewer drives from Gateway because unlike the Xserve RAID, the 840 comes with drive carriers for all its drive bays. Apple won't sell you drive carriers without drives. You can also get the 840's 3yr warranty extended to 4 hour response in stead of next day *and* it can be extended to 4 or 5 years. Apple won't sell you a warranty beyond 3yrs.

Consumers are not being told which devices do and which don't contain DRM and therefore there is no opportunity for marketplace discipline to occur. By the time consumers understand what is happening, every new device will have DRM and it will be too late to "vote with your dollars."

I recently saw a full-page ad in the Boston Globe for a Gateway (remember? the company that ran TV ads a year ago saying they support my fair-use rights to music) for something called a Media Center PC. My wife was interested and asked me to look into it. Go here and click on "What can I do with Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004" and it says:

"Watch your favorite shows, whenever you want. Record a single episode or capture an entire series. You can also watch a previously recorded show while recording a live TV program. With the new Media Center 2004, you're able to record a TV show directly to a DVD so you can start your own DVD collection or take it on the road and watch it late."

Only if you go here , click on ">FAQ" and scroll way down do you learn some relevant details:

"Media Center uses a new file format called DVR-MS... Q. Can the file format used by Media Center be changed? A. No... Q. Can [they] be converted to another video format? A. At this time, [no]. Q. Can I edit Recorded TV files? A. Currently, [no].
Q. Does Windows® Movie Maker support the Media Center file format? A. [Not at this time]."

"Q. What is content protection and how is it used by Media Center? A. Content owners and/or broadcasters can set copy protection flags to indicate that a program is subject to content protection. When Media Center detects that this flag is set, it will protect the content by limiting the ability to copy and distribute the program. Q. Can protected Recorded TV files be watched on another PC? A. No... Q. Can protected Recorded TV files be played back on the same Media Center PC using Media Player 9 or other DirectShow-enabled applications? A. No... Q.
Can I record a TV show to my hard drive and then to a DVD using my DVD-R and play it on my home DVD player? A. No..."

Since few programs are currently using the broadcast flag, few consumers will discover these limitations either before they buy it or during the period when they could conceivably return it. DRM is currently in stealth mode. Like a virus that doesn't release its payload until it has infected many PCs, over the next five years millions of consumers will buy devices with DRM and not even know it. Then, suddenly, media companies will start turning on their protection flags and it will be too late to do anything about it.

When I asked direct questions to Gateway representatives about whether I could "use it like a VCR or DVD recorder to record my favorite shows on DVDs" they assured me that I could. Essentially the reps seemed to know about the "what you can do" paragraph I quoted above, but not about the "funny file format" and "content protection" issues I summarized below.

Consumers are not being told which devices do and which don't contain DRM and therefore there is no opportunity for marketplace discipline to occur. By the time consumers understand what is happening, every new device will have DRM and it will be too late to "vote with your dollars."

I recently saw a full-page ad in the Boston Globe for a Gateway (remember? the company that ran TV ads a year ago saying they support my fair-use rights to music) for something called a Media Center PC. My wife was interested and asked me to look into it. Go here and click on "What can I do with Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004" and it says:

"Watch your favorite shows, whenever you want. Record a single episode or capture an entire series. You can also watch a previously recorded show while recording a live TV program. With the new Media Center 2004, you're able to record a TV show directly to a DVD so you can start your own DVD collection or take it on the road and watch it late."

Only if you go here , click on ">FAQ" and scroll way down do you learn some relevant details:

"Media Center uses a new file format called DVR-MS... Q. Can the file format used by Media Center be changed? A. No... Q. Can [they] be converted to another video format? A. At this time, [no]. Q. Can I edit Recorded TV files? A. Currently, [no].
Q. Does Windows® Movie Maker support the Media Center file format? A. [Not at this time]."

"Q. What is content protection and how is it used by Media Center? A. Content owners and/or broadcasters can set copy protection flags to indicate that a program is subject to content protection. When Media Center detects that this flag is set, it will protect the content by limiting the ability to copy and distribute the program. Q. Can protected Recorded TV files be watched on another PC? A. No... Q. Can protected Recorded TV files be played back on the same Media Center PC using Media Player 9 or other DirectShow-enabled applications? A. No... Q.
Can I record a TV show to my hard drive and then to a DVD using my DVD-R and play it on my home DVD player? A. No..."

Since few programs are currently using the broadcast flag, few consumers will discover these limitations either before they buy it or during the period when they could conceivably return it. DRM is currently in stealth mode. Like a virus that doesn't release its payload until it has infected many PCs, over the next five years millions of consumers will buy devices with DRM and not even know it. Then, suddenly, media companies will start turning on their protection flags and it will be too late to do anything about it.

When I asked direct questions to Gateway representatives about whether I could "use it like a VCR or DVD recorder to record my favorite shows on DVDs" they assured me that I could. Essentially the reps seemed to know about the "what you can do" paragraph I quoted above, but not about the "funny file format" and "content protection" issues I summarized below.

I was wondering about the exact question today. I was intitially planning on getting something like the squeezebox and a Bravo D2 but there seemed like so much crossover technolgy there someone must make a device that does both. I found the aforementioned go-video model, a gateway, and a couple producs from some danish company

Has anyone found others. With DVD-audio, HD, mac-compatibility?

"You're forgetting who put all those PCs on the government worker desks. it wasn't some kickasss software a Unix vendor or local open source guru developed.

Was a little company from Redmond."

I realize this is a troll, but I'll bite.

The company that put the PCs on the government workers' desks wasn't from Redmond, it was from San Diego, or Austin, or Houston. All three of these companies started without Microsoft, and all three would still be providing computers to government workers, with or without the Redmond bully. (Oh, and Compaq was started by three guys from Texas Instruments, who wanted to design a computer to run all of IBM's (UNIX) software.)

[I haven't tried either of these products.]
Gateway 840 Serial-ATA RAID Enclosure is cheaper per GB than Xserve RAID. It has 12 bays and uses U320 SCSI instead of Fiber Channel for the connection to the system. Currently the cheapest config you can do is $4,749. That's with 4 250GB SATA drives and their cheapest 3yr warranty (another nice thing is you can increase the warrany to 4 or even 5 years and they have a variety of response times you can choose). Gateway gives you all 12 carriers no matter how many drives you buy from them. So you buy 8 more 250GB drives for $225/ea. ($1800) for a total of $6,549. Apple won't sell you drive carriers, you have to buy the carriers with their drives. They currently charge $450 for the driver carrier + 250GB ATA drive. Xserve RAID with 12x250GB drives and a 3yr. warranty costs $10,998.

The cheapest way to go is to build you own using a PCI RAID controller and drive cages in a large PC case. There are drawbacks to the DYI method but a 12x250GB SATA RAID system would cost you about less than $5000 ($2700 for drives, $750 for 3ware 8506-12 RAID card, ~$450 for 3 drive cages, the rest is for a big-ass case, mobo, etc.). Note that includes the cost of the computer which the above OEM options do not include.

Has anyone seen the Gateway DMP-X20 20GB Jukebox Player? It looks just like the Apple iPod. I was wondering if it might be an iPod in windows clothing?

~ Taken from gateway.com and slightly embellished ~

1. Our stores get perfect mystery shopper scores
Good thing that the number of sales wasn't part of the score!

2. Try before you buy and gain hands-on experience.
Gain hands-on experience? Oh...come on!

3. Knowledgeable associates
Repeat after me: Monster.com

4. Take it home today
Bring it back tomorrow!

5. You can trust our service. Gateway technicians can visit your home and install your PC, Plasma TV, or even connect your wireless home network.
huh?...we should trust you because you can install a PC?

6. Learn something new Take a class in our stores, on the Web or with interactive CD-ROMs.
I thought you guys sold PC's

7. Best value for the best price
cheep...cheep...cheep

Wasn't Gateway the first to offer the $3000 42-inch plasma TV? I know that the gateway store near my house has a couple of these suckers on display. If they're closing the store, maybe I can get a good deal on the display models...

*de-computers, runs to store....*

HA HA HA HA Your fired!!! April Fools! NOT!!!!!

Here is the press release

This also proves that Slashdot is no longer a joke.

Oh....wait....

Although Apple seems to be doing quite well in retail, Gateway was losing money hand-over fist. (Gee, think that could have anything to do with quality?)

My prediction: Either they merge with another company or they'll be out of business within two years.

RTFpress release. This story's legit.

Not sure why this warrents an ask slashdot when a quick search found this:
Gateway Stores
Circuit City
Dell Direct Stores
Or if your feeling artistic:
Apple Stores

Many analysts believe that Gateway ultimately will abandon some or all of its namesake stores in favor of selling products at third-party retailers

I recently bought a gateway M505X laptop at Office Depot. I chose it over eMachines, Toshiba, Sony, Dell and Compaq. It is a great machine and I could just buy it without waiting for it to ship...
I have never seen a gateway computer at a besybuy or compusa though...

Here are some links to manufacturer's recycling plans. They are not perfect. But, I imagine, these programs are better than throwing an old box in a ditch somewhere.

Dell Recycling and Donations

Gateway Recycling (Large Business)

HP Recycling

John

I don't reccomend gateway ever, seems like every person who's bought one has sent it in for warranty service at least once...

But, these are REALLY reasonable $$wise when you buy refurbs.
current model includes P4 3.0 256 meg ram, 17 inch lcd dvd & less than a grand..

what does a 17 inch lcd cost? eh-- they worked for that location, one died after two years, and was replaced with the same thing, one still works after three years..
this in a industrial type busy location

I'm thinking the best solution for my "need to record HD" dilema might be to just get a HD capable PC. I know there are solutions out there now, but the ATI board might be a cost effective way to go. I realize that the only way I'm going to record DirecTV HD content is with the HD-TiVo, but to be honest the best content (save for Sunday Night Football) comes in over the air.

Plus, I like the idea of having a PC in my living room entertainment center. If I want to use the computer out there now, I have to drag out my laptop. The Gateway media center PC line has me interested. Not so much because of the media center aspect of it, but because they've designed it to look like the other components in a home theater rack. I've gone the DIY route before and the a) the thing still looked like a PC and b) the video recording technology wasn't quite there yet, and c) it was getting exceedingly expensive to make it quiet enough for the living room. A media center PC married up with an HD receiver card might get me where I want to go...

Though chances are I'll just cave and buy the HD-TiVo...

-S

I am currently researching which TabletPC to purchase for a good friend of mine. He is an advertising agent at a TV station and likes the "style factor" and pen capabilities versus a traditional laptop. The essential things that he needs are the ability to play dvd's and burn cd's on the spot. I have reccomended two convertible models with 14" screens and centrino configurations from acer and gateway.

The fisrt is the Acer C300 found HERE.

The second is the gateway M275X found HERE.

For the price and style versus a regular laptop i think it's a decent value for him! Of course I am very open for suggestions as well! Thanks Slashdot!

I'd love a cig!

I think you're looking for the StarTech Screw Kit, available lots of places. Actually, Gateway has it for pretty cheap, oddly enough.

Is it the difference between true HDTV and HD-ready TV's, as pla said?

Or is it plasma screens like the ones from Gateway that are only EDTV?

here is a keyboard that has a built-in track point. The link is to a gateway branded unit, but I have an identical one (except all black) that I got years ago (at best buy, I think) The one I got was branded as "air board" Its IR not RF so it needs line of sight but it did seem to work from a fair distance (10+ feet) The track point was a little too sensitive for my tastes but I got used to it

Gateway has had a similar device for a while now. It can be found right here.

here ya go. my boss has been eyeing one

and epson just came out with a whoopass hdtv. something like 72", built in photo printer, etc. $4k

My question was - how buying a $3000 Plasma TV or a $3000 LCD TV any different from one of the $2000 LCD monitors Apple sells in their online store (non linkable to the product pages) ? Wouldn't you want to see it before buying as well?

It's really painful to watch HP crash and burn. Thanks, Carly!

HP
IBM
Compaq
Alienware
Gateway
Build your own

We have choices, after all.

What about the Gateway Connected DVD Player I picked up the wireless version of this last week... works pretty well... I only hope they improve the software side to support more than just mpeg format.. it looks like it is planned though.. going by what options are greyed out on the setup menus. Anyone know who really makes these?

...is known as the Gateway Connected DVD Player. It's the exact same system as the Oritron, right down to the (Windows-only :( ) streaming server. It's currently retailing for $199, and includes a Gateway-branded 802.11b card (I think it's a rebranded D-Link card, judging by the antenna casing). Given Gateway's superior rep for service, I felt a little more comfortable buying this unit over the ones from GoVideo and Oritron.

Pros: Audio and video playing works exactly as advertised (even low-bit MP3s sound great), transcoded video works nicely, wireless works with WEP (although you have to enter the key in 24-bit hex through the remote).

Cons: Library support highly lacking (can't shuffle playlists, only plays alphabetically through an album), plays some DivX files as audio-only (haven't figured that one yet), aforementioned lack of OGG/AAC/QT support.

And why buy it? Can I build a PC with quality audio for $199? Nope.

TechTV also had a review of projectors under $1000 in September. It featured the Epson PowerLite S1, the Toshiba TLP-S10, and the Gateway 205 Projector. The Gateway came out on top but check out the full review here.

M500

* Install Linux
* Get Gnome 2.4.x
* Get OSX Gnome theme
* Get OSX Background
- $1500 Super Book!

Are you kidding? What do you want apple to do? Not have a computer with a speaker in it? And where do you think computers are going? Everyone's getting into this whole Digital Hub thing. And you want to ban Apple from it just because they happen to share the same name as the beatles who refuse to make their music available online?

Um..

Plastic: Dell Dimension

Plastic: Gateway Sb-4100-B

Plastic: Compaq Presario

3 Standard PC's

Not Plastic: PowerMac G5

Why must companies continue to make multi-purpose products like this? When they do, it seems like they always use sub-standard components, and the whole thing ends up being low level versions of all of the different pieces that the product is comprised of. When someone needs a digital camera, they should buy a digital camera. They're cheap now, go get a good one. When someone needs a video camera, go get a video camera. They're small now, and a lot cheaper. Need a portable video monitor? If slightly over 3" is good enough for you, then be my guest and fork over the dough for this device.

I can hardly see any practicality in this device, and I'm VERY interested to find how many people that buy it that wouldn't have been better off with just a laptop for $200 more (yes, I understand a laptop is less portable).

Yeah, the geek in me would love to get this sweet little thing, but the business person in me knows better.

You mean like this projector?

Gateway 205 Projector - $1099

Projector Model 205 with SVGA resolution featuring DLP(TM) technology and DCDi(TM) by Faroudja 1100 market comparable lumens (1000 ANSI lumens)/1100:1 contrast ratio SVGA, NTSC, S-Video

I've seen these set up in one of the Country Stores playing a DVD. The quality was amazing! I would definetly get one of these over a plasma display.

For stealing gateway.com from the original owner. Don't forget!

*yawn*

I don't understand why this is news, especially when they offer a lower priced 128MB on their website