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New iPods on the Horizon
RemovableBait writes "Apple Computer plans to introduce more iPods before the end of the year", a company executive said Tuesday. From the article: Executive Vice President Tim Cook didn't say whether the new iPods will come at a press event Apple has scheduled for Wednesday morning. But during a conference call with analysts, he suggested that the iPod Nano won't be the last new iPod of the year."
Actually, I've heard there's plan for an iPod with integrted e-mail functions...but, it's just a rumor, I'm sure *shifty eyes*
I want a near indestructible one. Make it bulkier if you have to, just don't let it break.
I know this may look like a really dumb comment in about 4 hrs but I don't see video being THAT useful. You can store a ton of low-res video on the ipod if you just want to watch it there, but the real advantage would be to take it with you to friends' houses for viewing on their TVs. Well, in that case, you want hi-res video, video that will take up quite a bit of room. Hmmm.... Wonder how those geniuses will solve THAT little problem...
Cemil.
It would have to be. Initially content will be Video Podcasts (like NerdTV), music videos, and hopefully TV shows. Also Apple needs to release software that will transcode non-encrypted DVDs or VIDEO_TS forlders, and let "third parties" do the rest.
We will know more later today.
Do we really need 5 posts regarding this subject? The question will be answered today. This article's basically saying "Apple will release...something... soon. Mark our words."
P.S. This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.
It sounds like Apple's simply trying to cash-in quickly before their 'bubble' bursts. Don't get me wrong, the iPod is a great little device, but at some point the buzz + demand / supply will stabilize and the rest of the non-innovative companies will play copy & catch-up.
Once all of these features are incorporated into one device with larger than 100GB of storage, I will buy one. For now, I will suffer as being not part of the iPod masses.
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
Shuffle (512MB or 1024MB)
Nano (2GB or 4GB)
Normal (20GB or 60GB)
3 types, 2 size choices for each, with a nice $50 price difference for each model.
I think Apple are really good when it comes to coming up with a product lineup. It's other suppliers that are too confusing.
-- The doctor said I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if I just kept my finger out of there!
Will the influx of new Ipods bring the price of the current models to levels where I may decide to buy one? The main thing that has kept me from getting an Ipod is the battery. I spend alot of time working outdoors and a replaceable battery is something that works very well for me. If the battery dies I just put in a new AA (iriver 300 series). Even if it a proprietary battery if it replaceable I want the ability to poop in a fully charged battery. If I wasn't so flighty I could be sure to charge the device every night but that, unfortunately is not the case for me.
3 is too many? Didn't seem to hurt them last quarter (over 6 million sold) ...
That's why Apple [i]replaced[/i] the Mini with the Nano. 3 before, 3 now. They'll do the same with the regular iPod.
iPod Suppo.
There's no such thing as too many choices. Perhaps grannies and parents will get confused, but that's why we have salesmen to hear them out, listen to their needs, then help them select the most expensive model in stock.
You like your new Mac more than you like me, don't you, Dave? Dave? I asked...She said Yes.
with email too
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
Or even an Ipod with removable/upgradable storage.
I would want one with removeable everything, meaning if my battery goes out, screen gets scratched, etc, it could be replaced without having to buy a new one. I cannot conceive of how that would work, but it sure would be a nice feature to have.
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If you want to catch the latest products about to be released today, check out the rumor sites at 10am PDT, I'm sure one of them will be following it. They currently think the Video iPod will debut today.
thinksecret
appleinsider
Or just checkout apple's website later today!
- what is the definition of simultanagnosia?! I've been meaning to look it up!
Obviously you haven't taken the time to check Intel's roadmap, it's very promising and very low temp. And the IBM's aren't really optimal lately, Apple doesn't use liquid cooling because they procs run so cool..
Have you seen creative's lineup?
Just another example of "one more thing" marketing as discussed, say, here: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,69172,00 .html?tw=rss.TOP.
I wonder -- is preaching to the converted really sustainable though?
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Science -- Sealed, Delivered.
Maybe not indestructible, but they're already pretty damn tough http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3
Wait until Apple designs its own iPod phone, instead of that Motorola ROKR crap. I'm sure that they've got plans for it down the line.
Personally, I'd rather have phone that actually makes good phone calls and an mp3 player that plays mp3s instead of depending on one device to do both, but that's just me.
No, Apple has been pretty ruthless about cutting back on models when they introduce new ones. They seem very much locked into the current 3-model iPod lineup, and offering two sizes of each model. That's not really very much, especially since there is a clear and unmistakable size/weight difference between each model -- every customer is likely to have a very specific preference depending on what activities they're using the iPod for.
Other companies tend to make 3 or 4 or more models that are all the same size and just have different features, and that's where things get confusing for people who don't know the technical specs. Look at the Palm/PDA market as a first-time buyer and try to figure out why some models are $99 while others are $599.
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Anyone know what time the Special Event is? GMT, if you can.
Here's a link to live coverage of the event: http://live.macobserver.com/article/2005/10/specia levent_keynote.shtml
As for whether the move to Intel was a bad idea or not, Apple users have been happy with PowerPC chips for a long time, but dissatisfied with IBM/Moto's ability to get them delivered in a timely fashion. We'll see if Intel can deliver on its promises.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
I tend to agree.
3 8-D9FB-1055-973683414B7F0000 would not, however.
I'm sure the author of this piece http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0006AD
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Why? There is no reason why a combined device cannot be just as good as the separate ones. Plus, combining saves carrying around data-leads, power cables, two headsets and all of the other stuff. Also, by doubling as my phone, it's insured. If it breaks, gets stolen or whatever, I can have a courier drop off a replacement within 24 hours, then after a 5 min backup-restore, my device is exactly as it used to be.
Besides, the media players automatically pauses the song when you get a call, then starts it again when you hang up. All using the same headset. You just don't get little usability tweaks like that on separate devices.
Which was discontinued when they introduced the Nano. The above list is correct until the Apple event later today...
Very worky. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/ 22715&page=10
So you are 'suffering' along with the laptop masses?
If Jesus wants me it knows where to find me.
It seems like there's not much point speculating in the time left!
They'd be mad to fiddle with the Nano lineup right now.
Whatever this announcement is later today, if it's something iPod, it'll be an update for either the Shuffle (which hasn't had a single change since launch) or the Photo (or just 'iPod' as they call it since killing the black-and-white fullsize).
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Whats stopping you from storing your mboxes or Maildirs on it now?
I'm curious since i plan getting a regular thumbdrive to store them on.
I find it interesting that you said this right after Apple announced that sales of Mac-hardware increased by about 50% when compared to last year. If that means that Mac is "dying", I would LOVE to see what it would be like when it's thriving!
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Maybe once cell phones become worthwhile as phones first, then I'll consider converging the two. Until then, I'll keep my iPod separate.
I am suffering with a Rio mp3 player that has an FM tuner and can be used as a storage device. The iPod is much cleaner looking, but I paid a lot less for the one I have and am satisfied with it for now.
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
Do the current models still insert a couple of seconds of silence between every track?
I'd love one, but if they still have this problem, then no way. Nobody would buy a CD player that had the same issue.
Well, the Nanos are brand-new, so they won't be changing. That's one of the few things you can be sure of, so if that was the size/weight you need, then there isn't much that will affect your decision.
:)
But the big iPods will probably be getting SOME change, and by the time you get to the store whatever new models are out will be available, so you can still buy it today
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Do I want to watch a 2 hour movie on an iPod? No.
Do I want to watch a 10 minute news bulletin podcasted to my iPod? Yes.
Do I want to watch a 22 minute episode of the Simpsons on my iPod? Yes.
Don't think films, think TV.
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I hope if I ever get a "death sentence", it only lasts for a year and I get 30 billion dollars in the bank. That's the kind of death I could get into.
The 1990's called -- they want "Apple is Dying" back.
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You all know what Apple is missing in its line up. A Apple DVR. There is Tivo, MythTV, and Microsoft Multimedia Center. Apple needs to enter the arena.
They have the QuickTime technology.
They have the UI skills to make a better DVR.
They have the Hardware experience.
Wait and see.
Think about it. Why would you buy a iPod Video? Because, you have episodes of Star Track Enterprise, and Lost on your Apple DVR. You want to take them on the road. You need a Apple iPod Video that allows you to quickly download those programs over firewire right to a little hand held video player.
By Apple introducing a DVR they create instant content for the iPod Video. They are struggling to get the Movie Studios on board. So they need another way to create content for the iPod Video.
With out the Apple DVR where is the added value of a iPod Video?
Having had my first 40 gig iPod die under warranty, only to have its replacement have a bad dock connector they wouldn't warranty... and having had my 18 month old G4 iBook die a couple days ago with a faulty logic board... Apple needs to seriously get their act in gear where product reliability is concerned. I've had a 25% success rate of their products lasting longer than 18 months.
;-)
I'm fed up enough with the quality problems that I'm actually debating buying a PC laptop to replace the iBook. And that really makes me ill to think about. I hope I can figure out how to get OSX/86 on it
This model is one of those Steve Jobs things. Most any other company would have kept the Mini in its lineup when the nano came out, but Jobs believes religiously in giving the consumer a pretty clear set of choices that way.
(Sometimes you can see new product lines coming just by looking for the holes in existing ones. We have the middle and high-end iPods, but they're priced high; cue the Shuffle.)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
Enough with the battery FUD.
I just replaced my iPod battery last month. It was $20, including shipping, and came with a funky little plastic tool for opening up the iPod case. Changing it was easier than a memory upgrade on most laptops.
The hardest part of the entire operation was lining up the pins to plug the hard drive back into the motherboard. That took me all of about thirty seconds.
If you can't change the battery on an iPod while following the instructions that come with almost every replacement battery, you are a goddamn idiot.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
So, because Apple moves to x86, it means that their computers turn in to crap? Uh, OK... Or are you saying that people will use OS X in their Dell's? Unlikely. Some uber-geeks might do it, but regular Joe's will not, and Mac-fans will not do it either.
Sure! Same place, same time?
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Ok ok, here are your T-shirts. now you don't have to type this out...
i-pod=tired
What you don't want your T-Shirt?
I'm not going debate you
Oh wait this is the internet... oh well
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OK, according to the rumour mill there will likely be a new iPod today, but let's get it straight here: Cook said Apple has some innovative new products up its sleeve, but did not mention whether those products are iPods.
If this story wasn't so misleading I wouldn't have even bothered to read the linked article. Please, Slashdot, be more careful ... this is misinformation that wastes my valuable nerd time.
And _when_ they come out with that, what "excuse" will you have next? (Just curious)
The iPod can also be used as a storage device. It mounts as a regular external hard drive.
`` Will the influx of new Ipods bring the price of the current models to levels where I may decide to buy one? "
No.
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How about announcing an iTunes client for Linux? Or at the very least, allowing third parties to release iTunes Linux clients and not constantly thwarting their attempts to bring new customers to the platform? I don't run anything but Linux, at work and at home. I haven't bought an iPod yet because I cannot get reliable iTMS services.
11*43+456^2
Then I'd finally be able to get a first post.
I am trolling
This company is completely tearing up the rest of the DAP industry, but we all know this already. I think Apple is going to keep on going and end up taking over the whole electronics market. Apple products have style, power and useability. We've already seen Apple grow from just computing to DAPs to DAPs that have can display photos. Now we have one of these buggers that is only a tiny bit larger than a stick of gum. How long until they make this into a phone, like somebody else mentioned?
They seem to love touch-control tech, and so do consumers. Why not do away with the wheel and put a touch LCD in its place? This LCD displays a wheel that functions the same as the physical wheel, but also slides away when you want to input names and numbers into your address book. You can plug your headset in and make VoIP calls in WiFi hotspots, or record audio directly onto your iPod. The touch LCD navigation makes it easy to create playlists and name them.
Resistance is futile.
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While OGG would be of interest to Linux fans, few outside of the
"avid computer enthusiast" sphere have heard of it or would have
use for it.
Now, the optical digital inputs/outputs would be of interest to
me for sure but I can't see the average consumer wanting it or
seeing a need for it.
All iPods have been useable as external storage drives since the
first model was released.
Most individuals consider the lack of a radio a plus mainly due
to the inane radio formats in this country (USA).
Generally, what the average consumer is looking for is ease
of use, that it is compact and looks cool. Sound is probably
a secondary consideration for some of them.
I heartily second the minidisc option. Yes, the software blows.
But the battery life is incredible. I use mine biking and snowboarding, and change the battery maybe twice a year. Plus, it's survived horrible yard-sale-style boarding crashes as well as being dropped onto concrete several times.
Now if someone would just hack together a nicer interface for putting songs on MD devices...
Just so someone actually comes out and says what I imagine many have noticed: this week's free track of the week has yet to be released at the iTunes store. If I was releasing an ipod video, I would make sure the free track was a music video that week so there is instant content to promote.
An ID of 7191 and that is the best you can say?
I expect more, damn you... a lot more!
And _when_ they come out with that, what "excuse" will you have next? (Just curious)
The price is too high? I will probably own one, since it might even replace several devices at once.
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
I would strongly advise against buying an iPod now, but instead to wait and see if this cardinal bug will be fixed or not.
This is something I've noticed....and wondered, does anyone ever just
buy the lower model when it is ONLY $50 extra to often double the capacity of the iPod in question?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
My iPod just died for good last night (my own fault, really... shouldn't bang around a device like that as much as I did), and now my wife just feels really sorry for me. If they release a new one today, I can capitalize on her sympathy and talk her into letting me get one!
Apple, please take note! If you don't release one today, my accountant... er... wife will never let me purchase one of your shiny white products! Her sympathy won't last forever, act today!
Im am personally waiting for the video ipod. I guess as with most computer technologies they created a great ipod, took away all the features, large hard drive, color screen, durability, and are just adding one feature at a time to each new release in order to maximize profits. The final version will be a video ipod with full 32 bit color, Radio Tuner, TV Tuner, some sort of wireless to swap songs and interact with people nearby. And a nice 100GB drive to boot. Not to mention the new accessories that will come with a new adaptor that is not compatable with any current ipod that will allow you to dock with your car, and TV seamlesly.
CS: It is all sink or swim...oh and did I mention there are sharks in that water?
I make sure and give written descriptions and model numbers so they can get it right. I give lots of choices, but, I do help them out so as to make sure they get me what I really want...
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
You've just hit the nail on the head in terms of explaining why Apple takes this strategy - encourages people to buy the more expensive model.
Too complicated and too many devices to keep plugging in and swapping info....I know I am lazy.
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
Any coincidence that iTunes music store (at least in the US and Japan) did not have a "New Music Tuesday" this week? No email notice and nothing but last week's offering on iTunes for now.
I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
I so want an iPhone with rotary dialing.
That would totally rock my retro-chic world.
Optical digital output actually built into the iPod strikes me as an enormous waste of space, but if they could supplement the analogue line-out on the back of the Dock with an optical one it would be very nice indeed. If I need an optical output, it's to feed a hi-fi that's capable of exploiting the difference in sound quality between the two, which probably means it's both big and stationary enough to make the Dock the ideal place.
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the shuffle and nano are both thinner than AAA batteries so how would that work?
if you really cared about being able to buy lots of batteries then you'd have already bought the shuffle and the battery pack connector.
Think Jon Stewart's appearance on Crossfire
Think Super-Bowl wardrobe malfunction
Think just about any online video that you'd email your friends, but since video is sometimes slow to download, think about just handing them your iPod for a second.
(though, as the old adage goes... think porn)
Bluetooth is the answer to that. Most reviews of "mp3 phones" complain about a total lack of synergy - it is _exactly_ the sum of it's parts.
Easy. Shuffle with a colour OLED strip down the side so you can see what you're playing, as well as select tracks.
How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex?
There is more than simple raw technical comparison. The iPod wins out hands down against any other player in terms of form factor and UI. Plus, the consistency of quality of their products keep people coming back. Creative can't capitalize on a name the way iPod can because iirc Creative had a string of mediocre mp3 players before the iRiver.
"If you're talking about a video iPod, what would drive the demand? Music videos? You have a whole generation of people already conditioned to getting those for free," said GartnerG2 research analyst Mike McGuire. Uh, hello? Apple makes money on the iPods! If there a big suppy of free music videos for people to watch online (and there is) so much the better! I could be a research analyst, if that's the kind of insight they bring to the table.
It certainly seems to be a "Jobs thing". From what I remember, you could just watch it happen when he returned to Apple. It's not just an issue of limiting options or anything, it's offering what is basically a standardized lineup with standard naming conventions, and then a little variation in configuration. It's the whole thing. It's called "marketing", and it's one of Jobs' big talents.
You get the iStuff, which is all white plastic consumer goods, and then the PowerStuff, which is all aluminum power-user/business goods. It gets to be pretty clear to the consumer what he's getting himself into. You know exactly which models are "better". They're mostly the same, except the more expensive one is faster, has a couple extra features, etc.
I'm still waiting for a "PowerPod".
And then Apple plays this whole "$50 more" game. More marketing. It's smart. People can say, "You can buy an iPod for only $99!" And that draws people in. They think, well, $100 isn't bad. But then, for $50 more, you can get twice as much memory. But for just $50 more than that, you can get a color screen AND twice as much memory. For just $50 more, you can get a whole lot more memory, 5 times as much. Next thing you know, you're thinking about spending $500 for something where you justified the purchase because it was cheap at $100.
And that's what the "$50 more" game is all about. Make your entry level product cheap enough that people feel like it's silly to think it's "too much money", and then add genuinely useful features at regular and small price increments. Consumers will naturally rise to the highest level of money they're willing to spend.
Allow me to clarify my point:
1. The AAA and AA batteries will certainly enlarge the form factor. The slim form factor is quite nice. I'm willing to compromise on the size.
2. Battery life. I'm not expecting 50 or 2000 hours from the built-in batteries. That is unrealistic. However, my point about the built-in batteries (which I left out...oops!) is this: they tend to last one to two years (depending on usage patterns and if it was properly recharged).
The replacement batteries are costly almost 1/3 the cost of a new unit. I use rechargable Energizer batteries. The batteries also last about the same time but have 1000s of recharges. Replacement batteries are less than $10. The recharger is expensive but I can use it and the batteries on other devies. As well, pulling apart most of the iPods is a delicate operating. While I haven't pulled one apart, from shots I've seen on the Net and so fort, if you make a mistake you risk cracking the case or making it impossible to put back together again.
Look like after all the to-ing and fro-ing, it's definitely not going to be a video iPod.
you're not an apple fetishist? that's the slashdot equivalent of signing your own death warrent.
could be more scratch-resistant than the current ones.
w00t
The article seems to express wonder at where sales will come from, not being able to sell music videos (though that is not quite true as they have been selling some video in bundles with music).
But really the answer for what video Apple plans to sell is simple - TV.
Portable video devices make some sense for movies, but there are not a lot of people that want to watch a whole movie on a small screen unless they are captive (like airplane travellers). But TV shows make a lot more sense to download as they are shorter, require far less brainpower to follow (if any) and can be enjoyed in very small chunks thanks to the pervasive 15-minute commercial editing.
Not to mention that letting Apple sell TV shows would really scoop Microsoft and Sony in the Home PVR space. Who wants a PVR when you can just buy, download and keep forwever whatever video you like from any TV show?
Perhaps they'll start with just old syndicated shows, but that would be enough. Heck, there are a lot of cartoons from my younger years that have not even made it to DVD that I'd be dying to pay for.
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Apple's "One More Thing" conference is at October 12th at 10 AM PST. Two hours from now. According to ThinkSecret and AppleInsider we should see new iPods.
The iPod has been around for four years as of next week.
The reason you get modded "flame" or "troll" when suggesting that iPods are coasting on a "hype bubble" or some such is because that is a flaming troll. We're well past the point of hype.
Someone above laughably said: "When the iPods first came out they were cool, now they're just a fad." Zuh? No, they were a fad when they came out. That's what a fad is. It's long past a fad at this point. Now it's just plain old "cool" reaching the point of "standard equipment" for a certain (affluent) section of the population.
Seriously. Four years of steadily increasing sales != fad or hype. Exactly, precisely, inimitably the opposite.
I love my ipod as much as anyone, but 'cmon - it's about
time they add the ability to crossfade from one track to the next.
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proudly going out of business since 1978"
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Why should I buy an iPod Nano when I can just wait and buy an iPod Vixen?
my 64mb Rio500 dies! Heck I got that thing back in '98 and it's still working. It's survived car accidents (without skipping....ya I know it's a flash player), treadmills, windows(physical and software), and everything. Granted it has broken a few times, but nothing a little TLC (crack open the case the reflow some connections) didn't fix...either way I'm hoping for an ipod soon...but not holding my breath.
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Any links to which you can point us? I would like to buy something like that!
Bill Clinton: Pimp we can believe in. - The Shirt!!!
Sure, but by the time you get a 100G iPod, you'll have decided that 120G is the minimum useful amount that you'll settle for, and the game will continue. Either it's useful and you get one, or it's not and you don't.
~Pev
Then what's this?
(My guess would be a MGB with a 454 Chevy.)
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I make sure and give written descriptions and model numbers so they can get it right.
I do this as well. Then a salesman helps them select the most expensive model in stock instead.
I'm an expert in the stuff. The salesman makes them forget that I'm the expert, because that's what he's expert at.
He's also away from home.
KFG
Registrant: Brad Olson 615 E Marshall Ave Oak Creek, Wisconsin 53154 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name: APPLEIPODVIDEO.COM Created on: 04-Oct-05 Expires on: 04-Oct-06 Last Updated on: 04-Oct-05 website title in the Whois is "It's coming... 10.12.05"
Gladly
Note some of the ads on the side are pimping prices even lower than what I paid.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
I think I've found some neat hidden messages in Apple's announcement, if you rearrange the letters you get the following cryptic clues:
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Then geronimo
Meeting honor
hint
thin
heroine
remote
nitrogen home
ignore hot men
riot
in no other gem
So I'm expecting a diamond studded, highly addictive PVR, with air-con all in a package no bigger than 7 inches cubed.
Maybe its the new iMac.
(Thanks to http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/000966.
Nothing sucks like a Vax, nothing blows like a PowerMac G4
I am going to build my own iPod, with hookers and black jack .. in fact forget about the black jack
I welcome our DAP job stealing Jobs overload.
This picture of the new ipod has just been posted up on macrumors:
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/5G_ipod.jpg
Looks legit to me, has a larger screen but not as large as everyone seems to be expecting.
A friend of mine who reads chinese says that one of the options means "repeat broadcast" maybe a chinese slasdot member could conrim it.
From back in the halcyon days of the Mac: rope the customer into brand loyalty, and then milk him for cash through a series of upgrade cycles, experienced on the customer end as an endless loop of lust, love, and then a new object of lust.
It's like committing serial monogamy with a family that has an endless supply of nubile sisters timed to reach legal age about one per year.
Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
They just posted that live updates aren't allowed for this event so they won't be able to cover it until afterwards. Interesting.
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Check at the link below (if it isn't already Slasdotted):
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/5G_ipod.jpg
Note the screen size. Maybe some sort of video is possible?
This is my opinion. To make sure you don't steal it, it's covered by the DMCA.
Too bad the Nano's battery is soldered on.
No, it's not.
It's connected by three wires.
Wires that are longer than the battery itself.
Sure, those wires are then soldered to the board, but if you can't overcome something like that (either by splicing into the current wires or using a soldering gun to replace them entirely) then you should not be allowed to handle sharp objects, either.
If you ever buy a boat, get somebody else to hook up the trailer lights for you.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
WTF are you talking about? A freaking TV tuner? Cuz you like 8 channels in analog? A freaking TV tuner.... Jesus christ. Does anyone even think about properly engineering a mass market consumer electronic device? Yeah, a freaking TV tuner, and a cuisinart. How about a machine that doles out free knob shines. I used to hawk cell phones, and I tell ya, the modern consumer technorati drives me bananas. These people don't even know what they're asking for, but they want it. It used to be that when you wanted people to think you had a big penis, you just bought a fast car. Now you buy something that's way outside your expertise level, way outside your usage level, and dump all your service and support on the poor hapless Indians. Damn you corporate america, damn you and your digital penis envy executives. I don't even know why they bother. Everyone knows I've got the biggest.
and annoying as hell. Apples only workaround is to rip the album as one track.
Vote for Pedro
Not really, I suffer with a flash card Rio player now and I know its limitations (holds under 1GB.) Something with 100GB storage (or the ability to expand to that) would be great, if the price is reasonable.
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
do i want to use bittorrent to nab all 8 episodes of "That's My Bush" and whack them onto my iPod then take them into the auditorium at work and sit around at lunch time watching some pretty fucking hillarious tv with some workmates? - sure why not; doesn't everyone know someone who has a fat pipe and open ports? do i want to watch an episode of "Nip Tuck" on the 50mt train ride to work? - Is the Kennedy family gunshy? Does the pope shit in the woods? hell I bought the dvd, i should be allowed to rip it to my pod with handbrake. in terms of who'll buy these video ipods there is what i calll the lesser wave: the millions of us for whom every working day, and many holidays, involve a long commute, either on some form of public transport, or as a passenger in private transport. or stuck on a mid-to-long-haul flight. then comes the greater wave. do i want to use iMovie to throw together little video podcasts for my friends back home? I just noticed that my phone saves as little quicktime movies too.. this is the real business driver because it drives sales of hardware and peripherals and software. - if apple can podcast video feeds and make the creation of the same as easy as iMovie and iDVD, then they'll really ride this wave.
I used to have a better sig than this, but I got tired of it
1) That's a third-party alteration, which isn't really a problem, but some people will find it more or less dodgy. 2) The Nano's battery is soldered in, so it will require some re-soldering of the motherboard if you DIY.
Do I want to watch a 10 minute news bulletin podcasted to my iPod? Yes.
Problem is, the ipod doesn't have the Internet. If you have an ipod and decide to watch some news, you can't do it. You have to download it and transfer it in advance. In which case you may as well watch it as you download it, or just read the news of teletext.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Updates from the Media Event
iPod: 30GB/60GB with Video - realtime decoding of MPEG4 and H.264. 260,000 colors. Video out
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1) That's a third-party alteration, which isn't really a problem, but some people will find it more or less dodgy.
Even though it's a better battery than the one that the iPod came with? (The battery sold by most of these third-party dealers has about 20% more charge in the case of the 3G iPod.)
2) The Nano's battery is soldered in, so it will require some re-soldering of the motherboard if you DIY.
Not exactly, no. The nano's battery leads are soldered to the motherboard. Wire strippers and electrical tape will do the job fine if you ph34r t3h solder. I'd be willing to bet that battery sellers will probably eventually include a special clamp-on wire-splicing kit which makes the process even more painless... But we are at least a year away from the first nano battery running out without warranty coverage, so there isn't really a market for such batteries and kits yet.
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I think the gap is because the iPod is busy storing statistics on the songs you're listening to. If I was a conspiacy nut, I'd think Apple was uploading this info when you sync your iPod to figure out how to sell you more songs on iTMS
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Somebody passed this onto me
Now I'm a suspicious chap, so thought maybe it would be a photoshop special..but I noticed those codes stuck on it.
Wonder if those are the sorts of thing you can register on Apple's site?
Seemingly it is and it's a marketing part number
from www.macrumors.com
Apple's managed to block most of the Mac web from updating live. We tip a hat to Apple for finding a location without cellphone or wireless access. Here's information gathered thus far.
New iMac, new Video iPod, new Apps.
- iMac: faster, larger disk, built in iSight. Includes FrontRow (app)
- iPod: 30GB/60GB with Video - realtime decoding of MPEG4 and H.264. 260,000 colors. Video out.
- FrontRow and PhotoBooth Apps.
- 30GB iPod: $299 - 31% thinner than current 20GB; - 60GB iPod: $399.
- New iPods avail next week. Comes with case
- iMac: $1299 for 17" model with 1.5GHz, $1799 for 20" model with 2.1GHz
- iTunes 6 to be released
- Front Row - comes with new iMacs. Lets you enjoy video/music/pictures from sofa. Everything still displayed on iMac screen. iPod-like remote. 6 button remote.
- Photobooth - appears to be slide show application.
- Music Videos. 2000 available to buy. $1.99 each.
- Can "gift" music to other people. Peer reviews and recommendation service.
- Videos have Digital Rights Management built in. Can play on up to 5 computers.
The Apple Store is already down for updates. When I go there now, it says "We'll be back soon. We are busy updating the store for you, and will be back within the hour."
Doesn't look there will be much of a wait to see these things, unless they're just updating the minis or some other product now and the iPods are coming later.
Can anyone tell me how to set my sig on Slashdot?
New iPod announced -- 2.5-inch display, 320 x 240 resolution, MPEG-4 support, and video out. Engadget caught that they are 30% thinner than current full-size iPod. Will be available in 20GB and 60GB versions for $299 and $399, respectively. New iMac, and 'FrontRow' remote as well...
At 11:01AM Pacific time Says: "We are busy updating the store right now and will be back within the hour"
that sucks. did you buy any of these things using a credit card? a little known fact about most cards is that they automatically double the warranty of products purchased on them. call your card company, they will give you the right mastercard or visa number
if non os x makes you ill and you want more than two years coverage, maybe the apple warranty can be justified over 3 yrs. i wouldnt count on anything running on the hacked beta os x x86
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TV shows? Ideal. Considering all the complaints we get here about networks (ahem HBO) not too fond of bit-torrent copies of broadcast shows. Maybe they can partner with Apple, and cop some money from those that dont subscribe but are willing to pay two bucks for a copy
Blacker than my baby girl's stare. Black like the veil that the muslimina wear. Black like the planet that they fear...
Honest to goodness video iPod announcment. Go figure.
Here's the story~EEE~
The new iPod, featuring a gorgeous 2.5-inch color screen, can display album artwork and photos, as well as play stunning video including music videos, video podcasts, home movies and television shows. The new iPod holds up to 15,000 songs, 25,000 photos or over 150 hours of video and is available in a 30GB model for $299 and a 60GB model for $399, with both models available in stunning white or black designs. Oct 12, 2005.
http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipod.html
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
here
"H.264 video up to 768 kbps, 320 x 240, 30 frames per second; MPEG-4 video up to 2.5mbps, 480 x 480, 30 frames per second"
Next thing you know, you're thinking about spending $500 for something where you justified the purchase because it was cheap at $100.
You're entirely right. When the Mac Mini came out, I thought "Wow, now that Apples are affordable, I really want to try out OSX!"
A few weeks later, I bought myself a $2500 PowerBook.
Damn you and your marketing, Jobs!
I yearn for you tragically. A. T. Tappman, Chaplain, U.S. Army.
Heheheeh... they already do this. It's called the PSP. :P Seriously... that's what it looks like, that Apple is going to try to get the iPod to go the direction of the PSP. I'll tell ya... I am NOT a Playstation fan, though I'm a Sony ho, I hate the Playstation. But I *want* a PSP. More than I want an iPod Nano. But not more than I want just a regular plain old iPod. :P
Jho
Sorry man... the Internet pooped on me.
over the 2004 christmas holidays, i was over at my friend's with my 3Gen iPod (15gig),
who has a small kid (4 years old?). had the 'iskin' rubber protection off, and the kid
was curious, and dropped it onto the wood floor while it was playing ,
and it just kept on going.
now, it probably cached the song, and the hard drive could've been idle,
but still -- after almost a year, the thing is still working perfectly, the
hard drive heads didn't get progressively worse from that point or anything.
-- its just one more ipod that survived a baby --
best regards,
j.
I'd rather see video out on an Airport Basestation than on the iPod, anyway.
... and then they built the supercollider.
I prefer to let sleeping clowns lie. That way, they can't stab you. I certainly can't sleep when the clown is awake.
... and then they built the supercollider.
I completely agree. I've used many different devices like that over the years. My present one is pretty good, though there is always room for improvement. For example, on my last phone you could read a text message, hit reply and get a choice of e-mail, fax, land-line call, mobile call and of course text to communicate back. It brought all the functions of phone/text and email together in a seemless interface. My present one does not work like that; it's obvious that the text messaging was added into an existing software package as an after-thought. It lacks this linking, e.g. text is on a different, extended menu. I do forgive it however, because auto-pausing music for a call is brilliant, the headset (wired) has a single button to answer so you don't even need to take it out your pocket. It does however increase the accusing glances implying some sort of schizophrenia disorder.
I hope this time, they add some more features like an FM tuner and not just make it smaller!
You can find that review here, for those interested in a third party review not tied to Apple, Microsoft, or any other major corporation.
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And then Apple plays this whole "$50 more" game.
It's called Market Segmentation, and Joel Spolsky wrote a great article on it.
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Only because AMD have so magnificently outgunned them for a number of years now. AMD wouldn't have put out such a lame processor as the P4 is.
Look at how Intel put all its 64-bit hopes on the Itanium which has all but failed.
The P4 was supposed to reach 10GHz and yet it won't even reach 4Ghz now. Intel have ditched the P4's processing core keeping the memory bus and have reverted to a suped up PIII core. Hardly a ringing endorsement for a company with their resources. In a way it's like Microsoft, they promised the earth for Vista and they had to scrap most of the features promised, fork the Windows server code and get their development practises into gear.
This kinda proves that ponopolies simply breed complacency.
I thought the whole point is, we shouldn't need a battery kit with a special tool and a sheet of instructions to do something trivial like change out a battery.
The "special tool" is a plastic pry-bar, and the instructions are mainly there to make sure you don't do something colossally stupid like jam a screwdriver into a soaking wet lithium-ion battery.
An integrated battery in a $300+ device is a poor design decision, now quit rationalizing it.
No, a poor design decision would be a flimsy snap-on door for easy access to a battery which only gets changed once every 2-3 years, at the expense of bulking up the device.
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