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GTA: Vice City Sells 8.5 Million Copies in 3 Months
Gus writes "Take Two Interactive Software reports that Grand Theft Auto: Vice City has sold more than 8.5 million copies in the first three months since its late-October launch. The good news is Rockstar Games has 11 titles in the works. The bad news is the chances of the next GTA making it out this year are pretty slim." Also, there's still a couple people waiting on Duke Nukem Forever, and their patience is wearing thin.
I still think the original GTA is neat -- it also has an interesting perspective (overhead). If you haven't played it, go check it out if you're looking for a GTA fix!
do you think this has to do anything with the high rate of unemployment, and discontent among the people?
Consensus is good, but informed dictatorship is better
Honestly, I thought Rockstar dropped the ball with Vice City. The graphics seemed less polished, the controls seemed choppier, and, well, it just seemed a lot less fun than GTA3. Oh well.
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Another 8.5 million were stolen at gunpoint from stores nationwide.
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I think this just goes to show that any publicity is good publicity. The GTA series has been the poster-child for anti-violentvideogame groups. However, I have to agree that it's a kickass game, and I'm glad to see that Rockstar is being successful and not taking a pounding in sales for having some content that several concerned mothers don't approve of.
"You don't mess with another man's automobile. You just don't do that."
--From 0 to 1,000 fans in less than 2 months.
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Why oh why did rockstar replace the rocket launcher with the minigun? how am i supposed to kill those pesky helicopters? Every other shooter loves to include the rocket launcher, but not vice city.... why?
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some people claim that that games like GTA:VC cause influences in their behavior.
i think they're right. ever since i've been playing, i've been on a kick for 80's music.
The One Rule Of Chess You'll Ever Need: Don't play someone who carries a kit in their bookbag.
was the comercials..they were over the top, silly, and fun to listen to..some of the ones in GTA:VC are just a little too realistic, in that they're anoying, and you want them to end, and get back to the music.
------ Work is so much easier when you don't
Between encouraging people to act out violence on a TV rather than on the street, and these numbers refuting the "modchips cut into sales" arguments, I think we have the next crime-control device on our hands. Beats anything Ashcroft would come up with.
"Anonymous Coward" is for whistleblowers, not unpopular opinions.
"Also, there's still a couple people waiting on Duke Nukem Forever, and their patience is wearing thin."
Sorry, but I don't understand the correlation between GTA and vaporware. Has Take Two ever not released promised software?
Heard it to be released May 13th with advanced options, improved graphics, and better quality sound. Woohoo!
Anyone know how this ranks in comparison to all other games? I remember last year an article on slashdot (I can't seem to find it right now) telling us that The Sims had overtaken Myst as the top selling game of all time.
I'd like to see a Grand Theft Auto game set in 1930's Chicago. That'd be so awesome -- the mob, the depression, prohibition; there's huge number of possiblities! I just hope they don't do the 1970's... I mean, Vice City already did all the "boy, people were weird back then... look at their clothes/hair/idioms!" jokes.
If I never meet a woman who won't let me say, "it's just fun to kill hookers with a chainsaw"....well, then, I'll have more money for games!!!!
Yeah, because the only place in the entire world this game is sold is in the United States.
Turd.
GTA Vice City made this Nintendo fan boy buy a PS2 last week. I love it, and it's developers and designers deserve every penny they are making from it.
But don't think for one second that I didn't preorder the new Zelda. =)
I'd love to see what happened to Laslo, as he himself says "This is Laslo on Chatterbox, cause I got thrown off the rock station"...dying to see the game! "I save your daddy! I save your husband! It is a miracle!!!"
Grand Theft Auto & Mr. Rogers in the same thread. How weird is that? One advocating "show love & kindness to your neighbor" ...the other recommends a nice 12 ga. shotgun...
Compared to the piracy-laden music industry, the video game industry seems to be doing quite well. I'll keep this short and sweet: perhaps people are putting what little extra money they have in their pockets these days into products that offer more "play" than just a list of songs. Shuffling the playlist to make track 2 come before track 1 just doesn't seem as interesting as defeating the next big boss, or trying a different course/weapon/whatever. Maybe that could explain for the downturn in music sales. I don't have any stats or pages to back this up, but video games in general seem to be doing respectably well even in the down economy right?
station, and you'll hear music that was in GTA:VC And when they picked the music for that game, they didn't pick the biggest hits from each artist..ie "Thriller" isn't on there, but there are some other Michael Jackson songs
------ Work is so much easier when you don't
So your viewpoints are completely different, and she disapproves of the things that you think are fun, and you have to lie to her about your opinions just to be allowed in bed with her...
Do you really want to be marrying this chick?
That's why I love my wife... she'd be right there blowing up polygon hookers with me :)
End of lesson. You may press the button.
That's all well and good, but what about the rest of us unwashed heathens without a playstation?
Has anyone heard anything about a PC version? I know with the original the PC version lagged the PS2 by almost a year, but you'd think they'd have most of the heavy porting aleady done.
Unless of course the sales of the PC version were lackluster and they don't have any interest in investing the time in porting it. Notice this time around there hasn't been
I'd really like to play it, as I loved the first...but i'm not buying a $250+ console system just to play one game.
-Chris
PS-I know at least one person who
--an unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys--
Remember back when Super Mario Brothers was popular? You know, when all Amercians aspired to be overweight, Italian plumbers with a 'shroom problem?
Or perhaps they are just video games after all.
Yeah, thought so.
Finkployd
Uh huh, yeah, there's a lot of rape in that game alright. Dumbass.
:), but it's interesting that you can abandon the game plot and lead a moral life within the game.
Incidently, you can also be a "good guy" in this game (more so than GTA 3). You can stop criminals (through non-lethal methods) and get jobs (ie/ pizza boy), save up and buy a house, all without committing crimes.
I'm not trying to justify the game (the whole point of the game is to commit crime and that's how it is sold and we like it like that - nothing wrong with escapist fantasy, depending on the shrink you talk to
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
All I know is I cant wait for this game to be released for the PC in a few months. I love GTA3!
Manipulate the moderator system! Mod someone as "overrated" today.
Gee, my girlfriend is about as pure as snow, but even she thinks Vice City is cool.
Does your fiance' ever watch violent movies? If so, what weak argument does she offer to excuse that but still condemn GTA?
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You poor, poor soul.
My cousins have the game but I don't own a PS2 nor own the PC version. My fiance and I play it everytime we're at my aunt's house. My fiance likes it more than I do! (yes we're heterosexual and she's female... lol)
Anyway she's bugging me to spend the money to purchase a PS2 just so we can get that game. As much as I'd love to we just can't afford it.
Moral of the story... there are attractive females out there who enjoy what men do and are completely "feminine" as well.
- Garett
Fourth quarter sales were down for: puppies, toy trucks, jacks, and bikes. Meanwhile oddly enough sales for duct tape and plastic sheeting continue to rise based on a scared populace that thinks "There are madmen running loose int he streets!"
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What?! Violence is a part of human nature. Every living organism on this planet destroys and consumes other organisms to survive. Humans, America specifically, thrives on violence. The back bone of this horribly mediocre society is the Bible, one of the most violent works ever written. As a whole, we need to stop fearing violence and death. We need to teach our young ones that death is a part of life, and vice versa. Before I go off more and become flame bate, I will stop here and leave you with a neat quote. "If adult entertainment killing our children, or is killing our children entertaining adults?"
i assume that all the assholes of /. have told you that would be worldwide sales, so i wont mention it any further...
though i will offer you this link to a very important speech that might answer your... questions
YOU SUCK BALLS!
>My heart's content wants me to get Metroid Prime since Super Metroid was my favorite game of all time, but then again my brain is screaming for the hilarious drop dead fun of Vice City.
>I can only afford one so it's quite a tough decision.
>Any advice, geeks?
Sell one of your two systems and then you can afford the game of your choice, and you'll be able to spare enough for a second controller.
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
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Now as all the married and almost married men out here know, that if i was to say what i was thinking, it would have been a very lonely night for me and my PC! :-)
Yeah, but you would have to got to blow away some hookers!
My girlfriend cackles like a banshee and says things like "Come here and die, bitch!" when she runs over people in Carmageddon. I'm almost afraid what's going to happen if I hand her GTA3.
-R
8.5M copies. That means a fairly large percentage of the population has played this game.
So if the "fake violence breeds real violence" crowd is right, we should be seeing a fairly significant spike in violent crime, right?
No? That's what I thought.
-S
--- What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?
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I have both, and let me say that while I am a huge Metroid fan (ok, I'm only 190lbs, but that is still a pretty big fan), AND while metroid prime is very very well done....I have to recommend GTA:VC. ONLY because there is just so much to do. If you get bored with the game's plot, you can just try to do cool stunts, or play one of the many sidegames. Just exploring around the city is very entertaining.
:)
If you get bored in Metroid Prime (or if you cannot beat the damn giant plant thing with the mirrors pointing sunlight at it), there is not much else to do.
If you can only buy one, go with GTA:VC. Then do what I did, wait until Circuit City has a deal where you get metroid prime free with the purchase of a gamecube, then buy a $130 open box gamecube
Finkployd
Now as all the married and almost married men out here know, that if i was to say what i was thinking, it would have been a very lonely night for me and my PC! :-)
That's funny, I've been married for 10 years, and on the things that my wife and I don't agree on, she'll listen to my opinion and consider my viewpoint. I think there's something seriously wrong if you're letting someone control your life and tell you what you should think.
Interested in open source engine management for your Subaru?
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Heh, while working i was posting the same story and its pending, oh well another rejected story. But in the meantime i'll put my questions here. With the massive profit margins of games these days. Do the designers see any of it. Or have the days of the Multimillionaire games designers gone like those of Adrian Carmack, John Carmack, Tom Hall, and John Romero from id software. If they don't see a share of the profit should they be paid like a movie star, after all there work is bringing in the same $'s at better profit margin. CD ~10c? (with front label), Box+paperwork ~$1? Shipping ~$5 per 100? So what $1.15 for a game that sells for $50. Who gets what out of the other $48.85.
--+> Life, is there any?
GTA:VC is still selling for $50 on store shelves, which means that Take Two has probably grossed at least $400 million (using conservative numbers) on this title in three months.
Few movies ever rake in that kind of cash, and let's face it: the movie market has been saturated for 50 years while the gaming market is still growing rapidly. When you think about it, it makes sense. Games are much more interactive (with the possible exception of pr0n, I guess) and typically deliver a lot more "bang for the buck". I can spend $6-$10 to own a 2-hour movie, or I can spend $20-$50 to play a 20-60 hour game.
Games also traditionally cost less to produce, meaning MUCH higher net profits for the publisher.
Frankly, I'm amazed that EVERY company in the movie business doesn't also produce games, as there's a lot of overlap between the two media. Sure, a lot of big-budget films (usually targetted at kids) end up with movie tie-in games, but I mean why not take some of the stories that are pitched and spend the money on making a game *instead of* a movie? It's going to be the same-or-lower risk, and potentially much greater profits.
playing with boobies every night is a hell of a lot better than looking at ones with 16 million colors
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Finkployd
GTA3 is the only game that my girlfriend (of 8+ years) has given a name to: she calls it Carjack.
Although she's yet to pick up a joypad and start racing around town, gunning down cops, putting out fires whilst picking up secret packages, she does see the lighter side of the game. It's fun, it isn't meant to be taken seriously, so why treat it as anything more than light entertainment?
Honestly, if your girlfriend can't appreciate that playing GTA3 doesn't make you an evil person and that it won't turn you into an Uzi-totting, maas-murderer then she's the one with the problem, not you. (Unless, of course, you are an Uzi-totting, maas-murderer, in which case you're both screwed.)
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
My girlfriend runs Linux. 'Nuff said. :)
Dude, they're only *pixels.* Lighten up.
Also, at the end of a game of chess no one has *really* commited Regicide. It's just symbolic.
Don't get me going about Chutes and Ladders though. That game is disgusting. Oh, the humanity!
KFG
You're taking what I said out of context.
My statement indicated that Americans enjoyed being able to carry out the actions of criminals. They like living a lifestyle of crime and being able to have sex whenever they want with any hooker they want, and then getting the chance to beat them up afterwards.
In Mario Brothers, the graphics were child-like and the plumber brothers just went through pipes and smushed plants. It was all very kid-like and innocent fun.
Vice City is nothing at all like that. It's rude, crude, and downright degrading to women and policemen alike.
I stand by my original statement. Anyone who has a sick fetish for being a crime boss should be tossed into jail.
Like I said earlier, it's no wonder you are all such privacy nuts -- you're busy at home raping and killing on your videogame systems.
Background: 28/M/Bi-Sexual; Owner of a Linux company; MBA Harvard 2003; B.S. Comp Sci MIT 2000
I get to play with boobies every night (no, not my own) and GTA:VC - sometimes at the same time - neener neener neener to infinity.
:)
Plus 1.
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
The giant plant thing is easy, only took me two tries... Just aim for the mirrors, go into a ball when the plant shrivels and fucking hit the turbo boost asap to get into the canals
Why isn't Vice City on the PC yet? Why did they release it on an old console that has no life left in it? Oh yeah, I forgot there for a second....Sony is frucking greedy! They're obviously delaying or even stopping Rockstar from releasing it on the PC or XBox because they want to sell more consoles. Bullshit.
Hey man, don't ya know? It's coming out in July of 99!
There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
most of us won't be able to afford it.
-- Lemmy
That's a tough call, so why make it?
Get a part-time job, "borrow" the money from your parents (or grandparents), hold up a bank (but not a small store - always rob from the rich, never from the poor), sell a kidney or just wait 12 months for them to appear as budget titles.
Buy both and you'll never be bored (or seen in public) again.
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
It would have saved keystrokes!
So, who is it that loves violence, terror, and rape so much again?
Yeah, thought so."
Nice stereotype. I can play too.
Rockstar's next game: Le Reddition (The Surrender)
Welcome to France.
From the country who rolls over like a flock of sheep, snootiness and horrible hygiene comes a story of one man's rise to the top of cowardice. Le Reddition is a huge urban sprawl ranging from that half-finished skyscraper know as the Eiffel Tower to Marseilles, and is the most varied, complete and alive digital city ever created.
I like big butts and I cannot lie.
, or write code for the next big thing.
But I do! I am going to school to be a computer system administrator. I program in visual Basic, I play chess decently, and while i haven't read the art of war, i have read are fair amount of books.
And yet, while I do all of this, I still went out and bought the game. Am I an idiot if when i graduate I get a job for $20 an hour? Am I an idiot?
Oh ya, I also play EQ, known for being one of the biggest time wasters of all...
Aren't there other ways for people to relax and have fun. I personally would rather make love to my wife a couple times than sit around all Saturday afternoon staring at the TV screen. Maybe that's just me though.
Now you're asking which video game you should buy.
That's a huge amount of sales. How many people would have pirated this if it had come out on PC instead of console?
This is perhaps one of the upsides to being a PS2 game, at least at first. If it had come out on PC earlier... a lot of people probably would have just pirated it instead of buying. I know I would have, though I would have bought it later had it met approval (judging by popular opinion, it would have) - though of couse on PS2 I can also rent it.
It makes a good statement about the popularity of console games though, wonder if anti-piracy is one of the reasons it's still console-only?
And yet, I'm aware one could play a pirated version with a chipped PS2... but it is *much* more a pain in the butt (and DVD+R is expensive) than PC piracy. Of course, on PC, people may have bought more than 1 CD to play multiplayer between machines.
Not to spark the software-piracy holy war, but it's an honest consideration for console games, and such high sales numbers may prove their increased profitability.
If the thing were only available on the PC platform...
I seriously don't understand the whole Rockstar/Sony rights-marketing-distribution-restriction thing. I'd have bought this game the second that it was available for my computer.
Dammed if I'm going to shell out over $200 US dollars on hardwired-console-crap for the 'privilege' to play one game.
Do I spend that much on my PC+graphics card? Yes. Why? Oh, I dunno. Other games not available for the PS/2, AutoCad work, tinkering with alternative operating systems, you name it.
It all comes down to flexibility.
Bah! Enough of you kids and your fancy new consoles. I'm going back to 1978 and kicking my older brother's ass at old-style-console "Coleco" hockey!
Everybody Wang-Chung tonight!
Why, he'll still be able to play with the boobies, they'll just be lower.
You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
GTA-SA.com is a message board dedicated to the new Grand Theft Auto (SA is for San Andreas) as well as all of the previous Grand Theft Auto games...
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Just something about courting prostitutes and being a druglord's monkey that wasn't appealing to me. Sure it was fun to drive around, but when I killed innocent sprites on the side of the road I felt bad.
Oh well, I think I'll go to kill some people in [insert your favorite first person shooter here] now.
This statement is false.
Bring back the game play, bring back the immersion, bring back the innovation, bring back the stories, bring back the non-linear play options, bring back the well designed internal mechanics, bring back the occasional uniqueness, bring back the fun
"Do you really want to be marrying this chick?"
Yeah, because if he's posting on Slashdot, you know he can choose from any woman he wants!
"8.5 million drones will buy a buggy, unpolished game just to: "
If that were remotely true then the console market would be a lot more successful than it really is.
Honestly, I don't see why your post is 'Insightful'. The only insight that you've provided is that you don't like the game.
I don't even play the game, but am always making jokes about how I or one should ravage the environment in context. ex: "GTA Downtown Naperville. " "GTA Kmart."
*I used to be quite irreverent and ignorant. I am probably much smarter now. I seem to realize this every 45 days or so.
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You're taking what I said out of context.
There was no context. It was three sentences
My statement indicated that Americans enjoyed being able to carry out the actions of criminals. They like living a lifestyle of crime and being able to have sex whenever they want with any hooker they want, and then getting the chance to beat them up afterwards.
As others said, the sales figures were worldwide. But let's pretend they were not. What you are saying is still false. I play Gran Turismo, yet I do not enjoy driving fast. I play NCAA Football 2003, but I don't like playing football in real life (or perhaps I just suck at it). I loved Max Payne, but I have no desire to be a cop pushed too far with nothing to lose.
That, and the 2001 census estimate on the US is 284,796,887 people. If 8,500,000 bought this game, that is only 3%. Not a good sample to base such a statement off of.
It's rude, crude, and downright degrading to women and policemen alike.
No arguement here, it certainly can be that. However I personally know some women and policemen alike who thought it was very entertaining. Either they are very masochistic people, or they are capable of seperating entertainment from real life.
I stand by my original statement. Anyone who has a sick fetish for being a crime boss should be tossed into jail.
I'm relieved you personally do not direct public policy in such matter. Any other thought crimes that should be punishable by jail term?
Like I said earlier, it's no wonder you are all such privacy nuts -- you're busy at home raping and killing on your videogame systems.
I don't use gpg and ssl to protect my credit card numbers, or keep marketers from getting personal information on me with which to market to me. Nope, I only want to conceal my unmentionable video game fetish.
Seriously, I get your point and belive it or not, I kinda agree. It is a pretty rude, crude, and sometimes degrading game. Certainly not something for kids.
However, if I can legally listen to gansta rap, watch 'shoot em up' movies, and read mystery novels where people get horribly murdered, how is the more of a crime? I'm certainly not emulating the game in real life. Feel free to look down on me, curse me, or experiment with voodoo while thinking of me, but don't equate playing a game with something that warrants jail time.
Finkployd
Every minute of the day, I'm gorgeous and kinky.
Awesome....thanks guys.
-Chris
--an unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys--
A good parent will buy this game for their child. HOWEVER, they should partition the length of time with other games so that influences are spread evenly.
Use ration like: 1 hour Grand Theft : 1 hour Flight Sim : 1 hour Bean Hunt game : 1 hour Race Rally.....
No one game is good or bad. Only a distinct combination can damage your child by making him either dumb, slow, perverted, ETC.
I suggest you read Slashdot
"Uh huh, yeah, there's a lot of rape in that game alright. Dumbass."
Heh. I'm sick of stupid comments like that too. I've noticed that the people who are loudest about GTA 3 are people that have never actually played it.
The funny thing is that it's more like a sim. Which means, just like the parent poster said, you can choose to be a good guy if ya like. You get out of what you put in. I think that's pretty much why the ppl who've played it aren't complaining.
It ain't rape if you have to pay for it! :P
e.g. in GTA3.
Nothing to see here; Move along.
I always thought Rockstar should take Grand Theft Auto and mix it with a game like Gran Turismo. Get some actual cars in the game instead of the Cheetah and such. I'd be much more happy swiping a Grand Am than I am a fictional gang car.
Those of us still left that are still fans of Duke Nukem Forever have an epic level of patience, and will easily be able to wait until it is released - and that include cryogenics if necessary!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
CRRRRRRAAAAAAKKK! goes the whip! On a more seriosu note, my fiance loves the game, because it is fun, and because she realizes it is just a game.
Wow. I wish the best of luck to Rockstar, but going from one title to two to eleven is a recipe for disaster.
That's probably one of the main reasons that a lot of studios become one hit wonders.
Ahh well, as I said, best of luck to them. I hope they prove me wrong.
I currently have no clever signature witicism to add here.
But it's all worth it for the motorcycles. Roaring down the streets on the PCJ-600, leaning slightly forward to get the slight speed boost (nice touch in the game), racing between cars, knowing that a slight miscalculation will throw you a hundred feet. That's my addiction.
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You should have "told" her that good wives don't sit their fat asses on the couch watching TV and lecturing their husbands.
After that you could have "asked" her to scrub the bathroom and do the laundry.
You wouldn't have been laid for a few days, but it might encourage her to keep her preachy bitchiness to herself.
Conformity is the jailer of freedom and enemy of growth. -JFK
I personally really enjoy this game, but my girlfriend was at my house, and I was playing the game and she (naturally) was informing me of how horrible the game was, and I decided to go downstairs to get a drink, when I come back up, I find my girlfriend playing this game. She had managed to become hooked on the game that not five minutes ago she thought was horrible. Long story short, she "borrowed" the game, and I have not seen it since... God am I bitter...
My wife loved GTA3. She couldn't stop playing it, and she is not a gamer. Rent the game and have her play it and see how addicted she becomes. People need to realize that games and real life are separate worlds and that it's ok to enjoy something violent for entertainment value as long as it's fiction.
--zemote--
However, it is a bad idea to just limit yourself to just a single platform, I agree. They should have released it simultaniously to the PC and Gamecube as well.
WTF are you talking about??? Vice City doesn't require any expensive graphics card, because it isn't played on the pc, it's ps2 exclusive, but it wasn't exactly programmed in C either, the ps2 uses a derivative of C, but I see you are okay with C#, so I take it that you are ok with derivatives of C.
Damn you! Beat me to the joke!
You're being a complacent, pandering, pussywhipped fool (albeit "in love"), bordering on co-dependent. In 10 years you'll ache for the ability to say and act the way you really feel, as you two blend more and more into the same mediocre person.
And yes, this is speaking as someone who's currently in, and has had a few, long term (>1 year) relationships. Maintain your personality, your uniqueness, your vigor that makes us human. The boobies, the body parts, will sag -- make sure your personalities (you know, the things that you really fell in love with) don't!
Waiiiiiiit a second.
:P
I know you, you are the guy I just gave advice to on whether to buy GTA:VC or Metroid here
You sneaky bastard. You've been playing me like two bit violin
Finkployd
um unfortunately, no not everyone has
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Silly, you don't get the turbo boost until later in the game. I can understand the parent's frustration with that boss, as it was pretty difficult when you have to hit more than one or two mirrors -- by the time you get to the last one, the first has usually dropped already so you have to start all over. The trick is to use missiles or charged blasts to quickly hit up the mirrors, and use your targetting to hit them from farther away. If you're quick enough on the later tasks (3 and 4 mirrors), it's not too bad, but it took me 10-15 tries. Most of that was due to Metroid Prime's poor controller interface, though.
I was going for +5 funny, not plus five +insightful
Now,son, you dont have to lie to us. You have a valid problem out there and we at SLASHDOT (yes, of all the fucking places in the world) are going to fix it !
Can we have your fiance's email address please?
She needs to look have a look at this post.
The situation is SERIOUS.
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Damn sellouts... I bought an X-Box banking on GTA3 coming out for it (the release date was Spring 2002 at once point). Then Sony had to go and pay them obscene amounts of payoff money (heh much like in their games, talk about twilight zone)
Here be comment:
Why isn't Vice City on the PC yet? Why did they release it on an old console that has no life left in it? Oh yeah, I forgot there for a second....Sony is frucking greedy! They're obviously delaying or even stopping Rockstar from releasing it on the PC or XBox because they want to sell more consoles. Bullshit.
So, I google(tm) for "PS2 sales figures 2003" and the top article is one from ZDNet with "PS2 sales up 24 percent" (Jan 2003)
It's since gone, but the google cache has it. The relevant paragraph is the first one:
Sony said on Thursday that it sold 8.5 million PlayStation2 game consoles during the key holiday shopping season in November and December, up 24 percent from a year ago and holding well ahead of rivals.
Now, that's just about the same time period the sales figures from Take Two are referring to, which means that almost everyone that bought a PS2 bought Vice City! Cool!
Now, in reply to the troll:
(also from ZD) The Sony figures followed an announcement by Nintendo on Wednesday that it sold 1.5 million of its GameCube machines in Europe in all of 2002.
Also, according to Sony, they've sold 41 Million PS2s. :)
-T
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You mean trolling?
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It s obvious, that parents are not monitoring what game their children play with. The next 16 year old kid that goes nuts with a car they'll take legal action against RockStar game and the parents will seem totally blameless.
I don't know who Mr Roger is, but Mr Nice Guy is Jackie Chan. It's another movie about a cook that kicks ass. Not very good, either - but then it's directed by Sammo Hung, waddya expect?
Karma: Could be worse (could be raining)
need persistent worlds! Need be able to level the entire city!! >
-- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
The attention to detail is amazing - at the right time of day, the sun can be "in your eye", so it's hard to see where you're going, AND the light will glint off the sides of the cars in traffic!
I especially love all the secret stuff in the game. I don't just mean the 100 or so "hidden packages", but the real stuff you can find if you try. Have you managed to get a golf-cart out of the country club? You can do it - and drive it around on the regular streets. Have you found "the" motorcycle, the one that lets you try to complete a sequence of highspeed jumps in a 2 minute time period? How many Unique stunt bonuses have you gotten? Have you been up in the top of the lighthouse?
Then - when you get tired of the game (I assume that may actually happen to me some day), there s many pages of cheats out there, some that are really original, and a lot of fun. Don't go and download a cheat-sheet until you've played the game for a few weeks, though.
I haven't owned the game for very long, but I bought a PS2 just so I could play it. GTA Vice City rocks.
I understand you not wanting to know about it... I waited for years for Command & Conquer:Tiberian Sun to come out, frequented fan boards, downloaded all the movies and screen shots. By the time the game came out (Oct 99 - I remeber cause I was starting exams) it was a huge let down. But, looking back it never could have met those huge expectations that the community put on it. I sort of fear that the same will happen to DNF (Did Not Finish?) where despite being good without hype, results in being crap with the hype.
/ramble
Strangely enough, last year I went back to C&C:TS and its not too bad a game, I quite enjoyed it. One thing Westwood always did well was the FMV (Full motion video). And I like the music in it better now, especially since I found a cool little patch that I could import my music into the game. (Insert Rage Against The Machine!)
Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. -- Leo Tolstoy
Dude, you've just given the parents a target for the reason their kids do drugs! Now every time some kid does shrooms they're going to be boycotting Nintendo! Oh no, he crushes small creatures as well! We're all done for!
I wonder if anyone else out there enjoyed the original music in GTA3 as much as I did. 'Fadeaway,' 'Forever,' 'Rubber Tip,' 'Life Is But a Mere Supply,' 'Stripe Summer.' While perpaps not fully realized, neverthless the production and feel were there, and I preferred it to that in VC, which after the initial rush (like hearing 'Automatic' by the Pointer Sisters for the first time since a roller skating birthday party in '86) became annoying. I also thought the missions were more interesting and challenging and the city was better designed. VC felt like a huge sprawl.
Actually they don't give a flying fuck what I play... I'm all into GOOD violent games, CS, Unreal Tournement, etc.
Umm..not to piss on your parade, but this kind of attitude in a relationship will likely come back to bite you in the ass later. I'm not saying you should curb stomp her opinion, but you are entitled to have one of your own, too. And, no, having your own opinion dictated to you by her doesn't count. :P
There is a difference between understanding and subservience. Oh, but maybe you like bein a sub. N/M *reads on*
Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
You try to do fucking better, it's all about the idea of it, we all know that a PC emulator is loads better.
Oh me oh my! I insulted GTA3, I shall burn in slashdot hell where wanna-be skaters will laugh at me and make untrue alligations toward me... oh me oh my.
I realized a while back that I played VC WAY too much. When I drive down the street I just keep looking for a bike and I have to force myself not to ram the dude and steal his bike. Another funny thing. The other day me and a friend were talking about games in my garden. He was going on about some RPG and I just said," No thanks, I'd rather be shooting people and stealing cars" just as the neighbors walked past. I got some strange looks...
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The whole point of GTA is to run around doing stuff you could never get away with in Real Life (tm). Some of the misogynistic stuff in it raises hackles, but hey, considering the age/sex of most gamers, I understand completely why that's in there.
The fun of the game is just to drive around and create as much havoc as possible. Mission? What mission? Bloodshed, mayhem...and nobody...NOBODY...gets hurt for real.
In Huxley's Brave New World there was a hormonal/psychotropic treatment given on occasion called "violent passion surrogate." You had to get it done at least once. In a world without anything resembling pain or violence, where survival was assured and the happiness of their subjects the prime duty of the World State, apparently people needed the occasional safe release of adrenaline to maintain health.
Perhaps GTA3 and other violent games are this civilization's answer to this adrenaline safety valve. I know I feel REAL GOOD after blowing bots away in UT. I know that back when I was building websites for people who couldn't make up their fsckn minds what they wanted, a nice round of Doom 2 was just the ticket. "You want me to change the counter? Good! I'll make the death count go up, beeyatch! BLAM!!!"
Just as long as you don't go over the edge and start acting things out IRL, like those lamers in Oaktown did.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
Funny, I'm in love too, and my biggest problem is getting the girlfriend to stop playing Vice City long enough to get the controller in my hands.
So while I'm certain we all appreciate that you sacrifice your game-playing privileges in order to get some, understand that not everyone has to. So there's no need to crow quite so loudly.
YHL, HAND.
Note that God (recently created annoying poster) is a troll. G'day mate.
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
Also, there's still a couple people waiting on Duke Nukem Forever, and their patience is wearing thin. THAT'S why it's called Duke Nukem Forever I mean, come on, it's not called Duke Nukem Any Time Soon
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And yes, this is speaking as someone who's currently in, and has had a few, long term (>1 year) relationships. Maintain your personality, your uniqueness, your vigor that makes us human. The boobies, the body parts, will sag -- make sure your personalities (you know, the things that you really fell in love with) don't!
Amen to that.
I want to see Segways in the next GTA. It'd be so much fun to kill people in smooth efficiency!
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YHL, HAND!
(hint, treat post from high slashdot acct # with caution)
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
actually, the real trick is to keep shooting the plant as you go around and hit the mirrors. you'll stun it again before it can start knocking the mirrors down.
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From a review of the cleaned-up version:
Battlecruiser 3000 AD, the developer, was it Derek Smart, went as far as to insult most of his potential customer's mothers, and could barely even get people to try the free version several years later. I guess something that was playable was finally released.
Degaussing scares the bad magnetism out of the monitor and fills it with good karma.
the ps2 uses a derivative of C,
Because if you hadn't, I'da marked you down -1 Fucking_Idiot.
a) You fed the worst troll ever, (1337) God
b) Someone wasted mod points on you
c) The PS2 is not like a fucking LISP machine or JVM hardware thing... you program it in whatever. If they used C, they used C. If C++, then C++. etc. The PS2 dev kit doesn't come with uber-pseudo-C, just an SDK and toolchain. It could be ADA, the language of criminals, for all you know.
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
She sounds fun.
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That was my take on it too--it's dead. Geez--talk about frittering away a brand name. At least when Pets.com went under, they were able to sell the sock puppet.
I can see you are taken off guard by the response, as your intended post was not have people pick a part your personal life. It comes off (to me) as a post intended to show a "true-ism" which happens in all relationships. To a degree these true-isms hold, but from the language used in your post and rebuttle, it appears there is a problem in your relationship with your fiance'.
If you've been dating for a long time (6+ months), haven't had any break-ups (or time-outs), and no periods of an overwhelming desire to be left alone (even for a little while) then your okay. If any of these have occurred, tread lightly.
I speak from my own experience. I've been in about half a dozen serious relationships, with one that seemed to mirror your situation. I found it more important for me to be sure my girl-friend was happy than for me to admit I enjoyed "The Man Show" or do one of a dozen other things I enjoy. Just like your situation, my girl-friend had valid points but I also LIED to her in order to make her feel good about her statements and that I shared her opinion.
These may seem like innocent statments, but in the context of the thread they act as a warning:
P.S.: In my above situation, I was in love too...the physical relationship was the best I had ever had (or yet to have)...but it cost me my identity, which I found is much more important than playing with boobies.
Think about the numbers here...
8,500,000
X $49.95
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$424,575,000
Does anyone have more concrete numbers? Cost to manufacture, advertisement, packaging... ETc...
I mean those are freakin' HUGE!! numbers for one game. What kind of profit is that??
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Methinks you failed to notice that you're responding to what we call a "humorous anecdote." These are not meant to be taken seriously or literally. I know, it's probably a foreign concept to those of us interacting with computers all day. Perhaps you should ask your wife to explain it. :)
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Duke Nukem Forever Forever!!!
Does anyone know if/when the PC version of GTA: Vice City is coming out? I had to wait several months for the PC version of the original (it was worth it) and I was wondering how much longer I had to wait for this one.
Woe for we with no console systems.
Wow! 8.5 Million copies! Image that! That makes me want to run my car through the glass wall in the video game store, steal the game, shoot some random person and bust out my flamethrower or bazooka to take out the cops when they come by. Megapoints here we come!
In the long run, we're all dead.
8.5 million WORLDWIDE, there are another 270 countries on this planet other than USA, it really is true that you people live in bubble
people are playing this game from timbuctuu to the north pole
I think such a sucess can partially be attributed to the media's facination with this game. Simply by being controversial, this game has managed to do the brunt of it's advertising in the news.
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Does anyone realize what this thread has devolved into?
A bunch of guys.
On slashdot.
Talking about relationships.
GOOD GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE.
I think the only "crime" spike you'll see is the number of copies available on gnutella!
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
Now, that's just about the same time period the sales figures from Take Two are referring to, which means that almost everyone that bought a PS2 bought Vice City! Cool!
:)
Also, according to Sony, they've sold 41 Million PS2s.
I think that maybe your logic is a bit flawed... it's highly unlikely that all the sales of Vice City were for PS2s bought in the same period.
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - famous hero and womenizer Duke Nukem was found dead in his Los Angeles, CA penthouse this morning. There were no more official details, but the rumor has it that he was surrounded by radioactive green babes and was looking good even dead. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his exploits, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon. May his soul respawn in a nice, seedy place where hotels can be rented by the hour.
I, on the other hand, am still waiting for Teamfortress 2. Has it been an eternity already?
I'm sure Rockstar knows what they have on their hands. The story is nice with GTA3, but the engine is also just as important in it's success. Expect an extremely explorable GTA3 type universe, except set 150 years in the future with crazy weapons, floating cities, flying cars, moon bases, etc. Ohhh, I can't wait for such a game!!! Hey, do you all remember Mean Streets (one of the first VGA games, it was awesome!). That would be a great game to remake with the GTA engine...
LS
There is a fine line between being a cultivated citizen and being someone else's crop. - A. J. Patrick Liszkie
From the /. headline: Take Two Interactive Software reports that Grand Theft Auto: Vice City has sold more than 8.5 million copies in the first three months since its late-October launch
8.5 million units sold in October, November, December.
From the ZDNet article: Sony said on Thursday that it sold 8.5 million PlayStation2 game consoles during the key holiday shopping season in November and December, up 24 percent from a year ago and holding well ahead of rivals.
8.5 million units sold in November, December.
Unlikely that there's a direct correlation - for instance, I bought my PS2 last spring, so I bought a copy of Vice City without buying a PS2 at the same time - but it's likely that a strong number of new PS2 sales also bought Vice City.
Anyways, my point was the interesting coincidence of sales numbers.
-T
uh, dude, your married. There is NO benefit to the male side of marriage. You lost the war 10 years ago, he still has time to get out while the going is safe.
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Well, his advice during Desert Storm that parents advise their children they would always be safe stired up the child psychologist set. There were a few other such incidents.
And sometimes just being a sweety is enough to be controversial in itself.
They've assasinated a distressing number of people just for saying "be excellent to each other."
People were prone to making rude comments when passing by his house. (My brother went to Carnegie-Mellon and Mr. Rogers house was just outside the campus. He got to see a lot of this first hand)
KFG
What is up with the 'controversy'? I remember being shown the original GTA3, where you could pick up the hooker, get the blowjob/health, beat the shit out of her and take your money back. Yet suddenly Vice City is appearing in various media, and is a Joe Lieberman target. What happened? Did someone troll or astroturf all the parents' groups to drum up controversy?
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
Well lets have a bit of analysis... the GTA3 pc version took a while to come out... not just for the port, but also the hi-res graphics and additional code for effects and multiplayer.
;) I hope so!
:)
Yes, multiplayer. There is multiplayer code inside the original GTA3... gamespy imports and graphics for the menus, etc. Guess in the end they found the synchronisation issues to be too tricky.
So fast forward to now. Vice City is being ported across. Now while the artsy folks are doing the hi-res textures and sounds, the coders are doing the quick job of porting it... theyve done it before.. they end up with time on their hands. They also know that with working multiplayer they will probably sell double the copies.
Think they might have a crack at finishing the multiplayer? I suggest so
Im sure the team wants to play it multiplayer as much as we do
those who control the past, control the future. those who control the present, control the past.
naaaa! the selling point isn't having sex. we're not talking leisure suite larry here... ;-)
the selling point is committing senseless slaughter on pedestrians while being chased by an angry flock of police cars!! isn't it obvious?
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what a waste of ressources
Unless she's lying too ..
That's the thing, once you start modifying what you say you like for other people you can never stop ... and you don't know if they're doing it too.
In relationships honesty really is the best way forward; besides if she knows you don't like watching something she does, for example, you get brownie points for going along too ;)
Man, you are so right.
I hadn't played videogames for the las 3 years and i had always said i would never buy a console. But the other day a friend stopped by my house with is PS2 and GTA:VC.
All i know is that the next morning i was buying a PS2 and GTA, and have been playing a lot since then. I love it.
Curious. I take it she's heard about this game from the news, and believed every word of it, then.
I didn't have any problem explaining to my wife why I'd bought the game, but then as I've managed to clock up upwards of 30 hours on GTA3 without once feeling the need to use the "pick up hooker" feature that I wasn't even aware of until the media told me about it, I think its less of an issue.
The evil stuff you can get up to in the game is just that. You CAN get up to it; you aren't generally forced to. Yes, you can kill women in the game. Thats because you can kill people in the game, and coding an explicit "don't kill these ones, they are nice people" routine would be a flaw in the game world.
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"if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music"
The first time I parsed that sentence, I missed the word 'up'. :/
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I think this quote sheds some scarily spooky light on the matter:
"If life immitated video games, we'd be running around in rooms, listening to repetetive music and popping pills all night".
-- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
The thing that concerns me is he should have known what her opinion was before he even bought it. Especially if he has proposed. My wife hates GTA3 and what it stands for (she questions the morality of it) but she could care less if I like it and I play it a lot in front of her, actually she understands why (me being a guy and all that)
amen! too bad i don't have any mod points. excellent point though; you know you're with The One when you *don't* have to LIE like that to keep things smooth - you can just say "naw, screw that, they're just polygons...i respect your opinion, but i'm going to go play for awhile" and then still be allowed into bed.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley
Slashdot needs a "-1 Didn't RTFA" moderation.
Idiot.
Quick lesson in causality in statistics. Just because the numbers are the same doesn't mean they are related. If 100 people bought PS2s and 100 people bought GTA:VC in a day doesn't mean that the same who bought a PS2 also bought GTA.
It also doesn't mean that the same people who bought GTA that day bought a PS2 that day (one is allowed to own the console before buying a kickass game).
ax_42
so how soon will it be before the number of gta vice city games sold will be greater than the number of xbox's sold?
So, if they're porting it to the PC, does that mean there's a chance we'll see it on the X-Box? As ports go, it can't be that hard porting from PC to X-Box.
:(
Then again, I've got say I'm disappointed with a lot of cross-platform game ports for the X-Box. They seem to go for the lowest common denominator (obviously), which results in the lower PS2 quality
Don't they just have the most annoying of web sites too? Designed by a fool. Why the hell did it have to be implemented in Flash with every link popping up a new window? That's why browser has bach and forward buttons. I can't even right-click on the links and select "open in new tab". Grrr. Idiots.
I don't think the graphics in VC are worse then in GTA3. In fact, I've read that the looks are just different because of the setting. Since Vice City is based on Miami, they tried to give it the touch of humidity and heat, that makes your vision blur. And I think they succeeded in creating an atmosphere.
Yeah, who could ever take a multibillion dollar industry serious?! Especially when one considers that the gaming industry is actually profitable and is GROWING when other tech sectors are failing.
Heck, Sony only, yes ONLY, makes 40% of its profits from Playstation. It's a drop in the bucket!
And the fact that GTA: Vice City sold twice as many copies in the last 3 Months than the best selling CD sold last year! Who cares?! It's still JUST gaming! And because it's merely gaming, and utterly profitable, and successful, it's not worthy of anyone's time!
Yep, the gaming industry is a joke. Anyone associated with it is a loser. Slashdot should stick to industries that lose money, have shrinking markets, and no future!
If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
February 14 - Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Coming to the PC Today, Rockstar Games announced that the PC version of the global blockbuster, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, is set to hit retail shelves in North America on May 13th and in Europe on May 16th. The PC version will have enhanced features including improved graphics and sound, additional PC controls, as well as several options for players to customize the game. Stay tuned for more details and for the launch of the PC-version dedicated area of the official Vice City website.
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"Hmm. I am to metaphor cheese as metaphor cheese is to transitive verb crackers!"
One thing that may have inflated the GTA Vice City sales is that CompUSA was advertising that you could get a PS2 for $150USD with purchase of GTA Vice City (or maybe other games).
Not exactly true. The Sims have sold 19 million copies so far - which may outdistance the installed userbase of the PS2.
yeah, but at least you'd still have GTA :-)
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
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I'm familiar with the subject to know other costs exist. Just so you know, gross traditionally means "revenue before before costs are taken out".
While I'll give you the fact that video/DVD sales are additional revenue streams that movie makers can count on (at least for movies that make over $30 million nowadays), foreign sales, licensing, and merchandising all exist for games. In fact, game tie-in merchandising is becoming even more popular given the success of stuff like Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh, but even years ago you could find Link (from Zelda) and Mario figures in stores. Some of the more popular and marketable games (like Tomb Raider) even pull in movie and video sales revenue as well.
The first time I played GTA I ended up with some chick going down on me to try and distract me from the game.
Of course it didn't work. If it had, she might have stopped!!!
Funniest post.. EVER.
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Why does everyone think GTA3/VC games are violent? Has anyone played SOF/SOF2 on the PC? Now THAT is violent.
I have so much pleasure unloading my shutgun and blowing a body to a bunch of gibs. Death. Kill. Very satisfying in this game.
Heh heh, my wife bought Vice City for me for Xmas...
-T
by Rockstar themselves, and Amazon's preordering info.
Agreed. Let's get back to the more serious topics of Anime, Star Wars, LOTR, Star Trek, and comparisons to Soviet Russia...
Sleep is for the Weak
I got my wife hooked on Medal of Honor, and she's not been the same since. She now has her own PC so she can game whenever she wants... She's pretty good, too! She killed her fitty men before the Nazzies machine-gunned her shins...
Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
As much fun as the open gameplay is, the most fun I had playing GTA3 (the PC version) came from altering the cars. I made Borgnine's "Escape From New York" taxi AWD, 300mph, 9000lbs, max. acceleration, max. traction, and max. durability. Then I put the center-of-gravity 2 feet below the bottom of the tires so it would always roll back to rubber-side-down like weeble-wobbles. Finally I lowered it until the bumper scraped the ground so that I could get under the other cars and trucks and pop them up in the air.
I could then ram even the big box vans and send them flying through the air in lazy circles, while I would giggle with glee like a 3 year old. The challange became to see how far from the river I could hit another car and still get it into the drink on the fly. The danger became getting your own car stopped, and you couldn't stop if you were airborne or on your side.
So that is why I am waiting for the PC version of Vice City, and I bet I'm not the only one.
Don't moderate flamebait as Troll. Know the difference or you will be Meta-moderated.
I believe they have to be out for a certain amount of time first as well. I forget how long that time is. It's either 6 months or a year.
I can't wait for it to come out on the Degenatron!
And in other news, hook your PS2 up to your vid capture card and make a crime spree divx clip! Rack up as many stars as you can, and show the world!
I really hate signatures, but go to my website.
It's 10 months + 500,000 copies or more.
So why isn't GTA 3 Greatest Hits? The same reason that Halo for Xbox isn't a Platinum Hit -- too much money into people's pockets. This subverts the spirit of the Greatest Hits/Platinum Hits line, which is supposed to make budget gaming easier for people (especially with younger children).
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As a note to what I'm replying to:
Your woman will get the picture or she should not be your wife. PERIOD.
It's bad enough if you have OTHER problems, but if she doesn't get what you're about -- forget HER.
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