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King Kong Lived?
Agent Provocateur writes "McMaster University recently announced the discovery of the remains of a gigantic ape, measuring over 3 meters tall and weighing up to 600kg, that supposedly co-existed alongside humans." From the article: "Jack Rink, associate professor of geography and earth sciences at McMaster, has determined that Gigantopithecus blackii, the largest primate that ever lived, roamed southeast Asia for nearly a million years before the species died out 100,000 years ago. This was known as the Pleistocene period, by which time humans had already existed for a million years."
Makes me wonder if someone was paid to withhold this information untill King Kong's release or is being paid to release it when it's unconfirmed..
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Bigfoot/Yeti? Sea Monsters?
I for one welcome our, wait they died out! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
All sorts of strange creatures existed during the plasticine era. I thought everyone knew that.
So the articles "We found a tooth" with nothing much more to back it up..? WTF, I know King kong is out soon but what the hell Monkey?
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Body-mass index of 66.7. Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater. No wonder they got extinct.
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..that Gigantopithecus blackii had a habit of throwing chair-like stones. :)
just in time for that movie thats about to come out?
... can now speak about the 600 Kg gorilla. Good.
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a gigantic ape, measuring over 3 meters tall and weighing up to 600kg, that supposedly co-existed alongside humans."
We still have these today. You can track one down by listening for its unmistakable cry; "Developers! Developers! Developers!"
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Is there anyone from Kansas with some *plausible* theories about this monkey?
Indeed, the right numbers are: 1,200 pounds, 10 feet and 2.6 Million Fortnight
But why did King Kong go to Hong Kong?
Apparantly they found a pocket protector and a "SysAdmins" day celebration card buried along side the remains.
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You can find out more (including how Kong got his artifical heart and found love while on the run from the army) in the excellent documentary, King Kong Lives. Its a mystery to me how this fine movie missed out on the Best Factual Presentation Oscar in 1986.
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I see apes like that all the time here on campus. But we don't have a fancy name for them - here they're called, "offensive linemen."
Anyone else hope this turns out to be some gimmick to boost interest in the King King movie?
What the hell are we gonna do with ten thousand angel ashtrays?
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I knew it, the bigfoots are real!
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That's one big ass ape. Sheesh.
i think the article was carefully worded to imply that new evidence was found. the only actual evidence mentioned in the whole article was the teeth people began finding in 1935. what was the new evidence? more teeth? so, i'm assuming all they did was carbon dated those teeth, "calculated" some dates, and photoshopped a gorilla sketch into this giant ape thing. pretty slick of this guy (and his school) to take credit for doing so little.
With a BMI of 600/(3^2) = 66.6 he was one big fat ape (the healthy limit for a human is 25). I guess these creatures were intelligent enough to invent fast food and maple syrup pancakes.
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This is old news from 2004, and published then. Why all the rush now?;
Morwood, J.J., Soejono, R.P., Roberts, R.G., Sutikna, T., Turney, C.S.M., Westaway, K.E., Rink, W.J., Zhao, J.-x., van den Bergh, G.D., Rokus Awe Due, Hobbs, D.R., Moore, M.W., Bird, M.I. and Fifield, L.K. (2004) Archaeology and age of new hominin from Flores in eastern Indonesia. Nature 431, 1087-1091
In fact, TFA says "Research into Gigantopithecus blackii began in 1935". (70 years ago, recent on the geological scale, perhaps.) The article is about a new dating method that determined that the ape "roamed southeast Asia for nearly a million years before the species died out 100,000 years ago", the same period humans were developing, and thus the possibility of interaction, or that we wiped them out.
Really? On what basis? I've only seen references to Africa for this.
"Pleistocene period"? Is that the same era that Wallace & Gromit lived?
...than King Kong. But still. Cool.
What is the fetish of present-day media with dubbing scientific discoveries and news with hollywood inspired names ????
What is up next ?
"antique car found in a warehouse!" - "WE FOUND HERBIE!!!! "
"Giant crocodile remains found"- "GODZILLA LIVES! IT IS TRUE!!! REMAINS BEING SENT TO TOKYO!!!"
"150 years old skeleton of a cowboy discovered" - "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MAN WITH NO NAME!!!"
"broken phone instrument found lying around the crime area" - "E.T. FINALLY PHONED HOME!!!"
Sheesh!!!
The hell is this doing on Slashdot? It's in my freaking anthro textbook, fer chrissakes. My textbook.
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I guess he is running out of grant money. But he made a mistake, he should have waited until he knew how well the movie was going to do!
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... next you're gonna tell me godzilla lived. Like there ever were a bunch of giant lizard roaming the earth. That's just silly.
Pleistocene era? Then I guess the very early King Kong movies were called the plasticine era....
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No, a ratio of 1:6.5 is pretty extreme already, based on the assumption that their head had to be unusually big to chew up all that bamboo. Considering that (as it later turned out) they also ate other stuff, they might have been even bigger than the guess.
But "ten times as big as a man" would mean 50 feet tall, right? Or at least 30? (They didn't say which man.) So there's still a long way to go to get to King Kong. Or, maybe "ten times" refers to weight; then you get ~1800 lbs, and it still came up short, but not so far short. Anyhow that way he wouldn't have been too big to plug Fay Wray, given a little patience.
Evidence suggests that, rather than completely die out, an enclave of these apes survived and is thriving... gainfully employed as the RIAA legal team.
Research into Gigantopithecus blackii began in 1935, when the Dutch paleontologist G.H. von Koenigswald discovered a yellowish molar among the "dragon bones" for sale in a Hong Kong pharmacy.
Resently, i heard a talk of Russell Ciochon about the Giganto. He was also addressing the possibility that humans and Giganto might have co-occoured in the area. He said that he now thinks that the teeth subjected to early humans might actually belong to some other, smaller ape.
Mighty Joe Young...
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While it's perfectly possible, there is very little evidence to go on - a few teeth and jaw bones. Without a find of much more than this, I'd suggest this is case not proven/wishful thinking and would not be surprised if the fossils turned out to belong to a giant panda or perhaps even a sheep. The article does not inspire confidence with stuff like "This was known as the Pleistocene period, by which time humans had already existed for a million years." For "humans" perhaps one should say "the forerunners of modern man" since my understanding is that homo sapiens did not show up until 900,000 years or so later. In addition, given its diet and the huge quantities required to sustain 600 kg of body mass, I should imagine the alleged creature probably farted itself to death.
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Where'd you think Peter Jackson got the star for his next film?
King Kong isn't a myth. He lives in our hearts.
If you take a look at this map, it suggests that modern man entered asia only about 70-60,000 years ago. So this ceartue may not have lived alongside early humans.
Human history isn't that old really, wikipedia pegs the start of H.Sapiens at 200,000 years ago, and most of that time has been spent in Africa.
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I'd love to know something about the post-cranial anatomy. This is a big Sivapithecus, a ground-dwelling relative of the orang-utan. Sivapithecus seems to have had a generalised way of moving on the ground, neither bipedal nor knuckle-walking. I'd like to see what the increased mass caused G to evolve.
The "gigantopithecus blackii" is a long known species, and scientist already proposed the fact pre-sapiens humanoid species did often have contact. I don't know why this old "news" is dug out again. some kind of "getting-people-to-the-cinema"-publicity for the new King Kong movie by Peter Jackson? by the way, the old one (from the seventies)was great...
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No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
All your blondes are belong to Kong!
Honestly, why is this news? There's absolutely nothing new here. This would be like posting a story like "Jobs, Wozniak found computer company" and acting like it's breaking news.
I think I read this at least four years ago: The Bigfoot-Giganto Hypothesis.
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Why the incesant need to convert english to metric
You are aware that England uses the metric system over the imperial one now arn't you?
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Maybe, just maybe, because the majority of people in the world do use metric?
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This is really more on the Mighty Joe Young size scale.
What have 20% of the moderators been smoking?
The aforementioned giant penis?
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The CGI in the (conveniently timed) move release will be more genuine.
This is impossible! My math teacher in high school told me that this is impossible because the ratio of mass to surface area is too great, preventing the animal from dissipating heat or providing for the body, therefore dying out. Elephants have a low mass to surface area ratio in their trunks, so they're okay, but king kong doesn't have a trunk. Yeah, I'm just sputtering something I vaguely remember from high school...
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I heard about this find years ago.
Heck, it's been on the Discovery Channel at least once or twice.
As far as I remmember Carbon DAting can only go so far (20000-70000 years?). beyond that you need longer lived radio isotope. One of them was Uranium in small quantity and/or thorium and subelement down to lead : they have all different half lives (there might be other method with other radio element , used with thermoluminescence). Other form of dating might involve looking at DNA and its change (rate of change being constant?) I am not too sure.
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Gigantopithecus is by no means new. In fact, it's so not new, it's in my Anthropology text. That makes it a minimum of 1-2 years ago, and I'm sure it's been known of longer than that.
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> What have 20% of the moderators been smoking?
The moderators have a sense of humor. I often read the moderation status after I read the post, and seeing a joke get modded as Informative or Insightful is enough to make me crack up again. Now if only I could metamod as Funny.
Oh yeah, and also some people say this is a way to give karma to the comedians, since Funny apparently doesn't give you any karma credit.
Gigantopithecus has been (as the article states) studied since the 30's. Reading the summary, I thought somebody had found some new fossils. Seems to me they did not even "find a tooth", the article is actually about estimating the age of an existing fossil.
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I had Dr. Rink as a prof for one of my undergrad courses, I remember him discussing electron spin resonance. Interesting stuff.
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Besides ... saying something weighs aproximately 1,322.77357 lbs doesn't sound like much of an aproximation, does it?
We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
This Englishman doesn't.
And most still use miles for car journeys, pints for drinks, stones for body weight and inches for collar size.
I think that's unlikely. Modern-day gorillas actually have very small penises (about 1 to 2 inches when erect); other apes (like chimpanzees) have bigger ones, but they're still not as big as human penises, especially not relative to the animals' body size.
Of course, there's no data for this particular species, but I don't see an a priori reason why they should be different from pretty much all the primates we know in this regard.
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Oh, At first I thought this might be another Geico commercial.
Being an Englishman myself, I know where it is & is not used, it's now almost exclusively taught in schools; the imperial system is dying out here, out of those that you listed already, stones for body weight is questionable, and pints is only for beer and milk, for most other drinks it's litres.
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so scientist are capable of buying a molar at a pharmacy, combine it with a few jawbones and then complete the whole puzzle? It ate bamboo, it had hair and they draw you a picture of what it looked like. CSI Miami is nothing compared to this.
According to what I learned (addmitedly long, long ago in a distant galaxy...), 10^i prefixes are:
- uppercase, if i>0;
- lowercase, for i0;
- non-existent, for i=0.
Such is the difference between Deca- (10 times) and deci- (0.1 times).
So, 1 Dm == 10 meters.
And 1 dm == 0.1m == 10 x 0.01m == 10 centimeters.
Explanation made simple specially for you, foot-in-the-mouth system users.
Palaeontologists Big tooth -> big animal
Reality Big tooth -> normal size animal that can only eat soup
Thank you Eddie Izzard.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4424734.stm
Here is another document which provides definitive proof of the existence of giant apes.
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The universal myth of a great flood refers to the end of the last Ice Age about 10,000 years ago. Huge glaciers that covered half the northern hemisphere all melted relatively swiftly. Maybe in as little as a few decades. Meltwater made sea levels rise 100 meters to create the coastlines we see today. All of the early human cities, were built close to water, rivers or seashore. So every early human city was flooded and buried under silt. All the farmland gone too. The survivors had to start over from scratch. Hence the universality of the story of the great flood. This may also account for the legends of great cities lost under the flood.
Think what would happen to human civilization today if sea levels quickly rose 100 meters. Almost all the cities would be wiped out. Many who survived the flood would die from starvation or disease. Great bodies of knowledge would be lost.
They would add more than a shred of credibility to this story.
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Sounds like a plausible source for the big foot legend.
The less misleading headline should be Mighty Joe Young lived? Get your scale right.
Besides the original Mighty Joe Young was a much better movie than the original King Kong.
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Seriously. Seems like every time a new bone is found, a new species is announced. But then I wonder, what of our OWN giants? We have the occasional human with growth abnormalities resulting in freakishly huge people. 100,000 years from now, will the 'science creatures' of the day assume there was at least two species of humans living side-by-side? What other absurdities will they hypothesize with the little evidence they have?
I'm *not* a troll. I'm just trying to bring to light alternative ways of seeing things. So you know where I am coming from, I'm atheist and I think religion is just practiced mythology. I think the theory of evolution is plausible and that the forces of natural selection are demonstrable.
So, if they were presenting a "momma fossil, a daddy fossil and a baby fossil" that would be a different story... but so far, there's just the one. Why couldn't it be a singular anomaly?
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That's why they disappeared; as they kept getting bigger, they couldn't catch up to the female Gigantopithici, who understandably ran away from them in fear. Except for the few masochistic types who kept the species alive, known as Gigantopussici.
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Homo sapiens haven't existed for millions of years.
The existence of these large apes have been known for quite some time.
Slashdot science coverage is getting on par with the 5 o'clock news.
It was just some Ape - I saw in a Bar - in Hong Kong!
the scientist heard to say after the interview was published.
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Obviously, the analysis of these remains is flawed. All reasonable-minded Slashdotters know the Earth has only been around for fourteen years.
No comment.
What the frick did Noah have against this poor soul. Didn't make the Ark cut, ergo, doesn't exist today...
King Kong lived? Nope. Mighty Joe Young? Yep.
So they found the remains of a giant ape. singular. One giant ape != new species. There are giant and dwarf humans, and they arn't a new species
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...that supposedly co-existed alongside humans
And dinosaurs?
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Gigantopithecus blackii? Those are some rascist anthropologists.
Who wants to bet on whether or not this guy studied these apes to prove another theory that sasquatch is for real?
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Body-mass index of 66.7. Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater. No wonder they got extinct.
So that means that couch potatoes DO descend from the apes?
TAKE THAT, Intelligent Design!
Blackii?!?
I find that racist.
The correct term would be Africanii-Americanii!
Savages.
Nobody recently discovered any remains. RTFA. This Slashdot post is BS. Period.
Gigantopithecus Blackii, the largest primate that ever lived was not very friendly. He got his scientific name from his favourite method of punishing annoying Cro-Magnons and irritating Homo-Erectii.
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Am I the only one who, after reading the mandrake bit, read this title above as "King Kong Livecd"?
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"Research into Gigantopithecus blackii began in 1935, when the Dutch paleontologist G.H. von Koenigswald discovered a yellowish molar among the "dragon bones" for sale in a Hong Kong pharmacy.
LOFL. Righty-O. From a molar. Found in a Pharmacy. Typical anthro shit. Some people will believe anything!
What evidence? Most of the mtDNA evidence that I have seen places H. sapiens and H. neanderthalensis in seperate species. The morphological evidence is more in favor of the same species argument, but the DNA is difficult to account for. What are you citing?
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"For nearly 80 years, Gigantopithecus blackii has intrigued scientists, who have pieced together a description using nothing more than a handful of teeth and a set of jawbones." I'm pretty sure the scientists know their stuff, but with only a pair of old dirty choppers to go on, I'll go out on a limb and say that this is all an educated guess. As far as not finding the rest of the body or other skeletons, I wonder if other animals or humans didn't eat the entire remains and grind up the bones or if the humans they supposedly coexisted with didn't just domesticate them and buried their remains when they died?
It kind of depends on how you define human. When I talk about humans, I generally mean anatomically modern humans, i.e. Homo sapiens. If I am refering to one or more of the ancestor species, I will generally specify the species, or refer to "human ancestors." However, the press release is hardly academic, and may be refering to Homo erectus, which would have existed in the area at the time that this primate was wandering around.
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I wonder if they used one of those Penis enlargement products they advertise on pr0n sites Oh wait they hadn't been invented yet :P
I'm shocked and dismayed. Scientists making shit up? You've got to be kidding. I've been looking all over for Dark Matter like a chump! What's next, they're going to make shit up and graph it? Oh yeah they've done that bit too.
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It is vitally important to add that virtually nothing has been found of G. Blackii - bits of jaw, teeth, etc. No complete skeleton is known to exist, we don't even have a complete skull. All estimates on size are based on ratios that are known to (roughly) hold true for all primates and so presumably held true for G. Blackii. We do not know this to be the case and I would personally prefer researchers to be looking for more finds than looking for more publicity. Otherwise, when something of real importance is discovered, nobody is going to take it seriously. Why should they, when so much hype has been stirred up over the dating of a bunch of teeth?
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They've found Monkey? Any idea if Pigsy or Sandy were nearby? Oh, and there should also be a pink cloud. There's gotta be a pink cloud.
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100,000 years humans did not walk in asia
And did those teeth, in ancient time, walk upon England's mountains green.
Find a handful of Yao-Ming's great-grandfathers teeth and create a new species out of it. Try that with any other scientific discipline, and you'd be crucified. Ask Pons and Fleichmann, the two chemists who deduced that they had discovered cold fusion when they found that they could create excess heat in a beaker filled with water at room temperature in 88 or 89. http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/scien ce/050399sci-cold-fusion.html
But seems from those teeth they were able to determine that it did not walk upright, that it had long apelike arms, black fur, feet with opposing thumbs, short spindly legs... etc, etc. None of which can be assumed without finding at least the base of the skull fully in tact.
*sigh*
Disgusting what passes as "science" these days. This article requires as much of a leap of faith as the Kansas school board.
...so, are they trying to say that King Kong walked with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden!?!
Those pictures look more like "Mighty Joe Young" to me. Also makes me feel better about that movie as being more likely than "King Kong" (at least both original versions). I always liked "Joe" better, myself.
Kong was always impossibly large; and he would have to be in order to fight his "rubber suit" counterpart in the later "Godzilla vs. King Kong", but that didn't make him real to me. OTOH, Mighty Joe Young seems more like an actual possibility - given the existence of larger versions of many animals as recently as 10,000 BC. (Think larger bison, tigers, etc.) Could one be found deep in some jungle somewhere that coexisted with humans? Not today, perhaps, given the reduced habitat - but ~60,000 years ago, when humans first migrated to Asia... Yes, it does makes me wonder.
And of course, as someone else implied in an earlier post, finding one in today's jungle would be about as likely as finding a "Bigfoot" skeleton; so both would appear to be just mythic expressions of some primordial fear of predators larger than ourselves. Kong at least is so big that something larger than standard rifles were needed to take him down from the Empire State Building. Even so, a 10 ft. giant ape still makes more sense to me as a myth than a 100 ft. one.
Anyone else think that remaking "King Kong" **yet again** seems as necessary as a remake of "Attack of the 50 ft. Woman" would be? Still, given that we've been treated to Godzilla in modern NYC, and Hollywood is is full "retread" mode, so this movie may have been unavoidable. At least it's not yet another old TV show on the big screen.
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sounds like where the chinese legend of the monkey king (and his bar) might have originated from...
> before the species died out 100,000 years ago
Yeah, or maybe it died out somewhat more recently than that, but there are no fossils from the last while, because by then the critter was starting to get rare. One can readily imagine that such a thing might be the source of some legends.
OTOH, maybe it was never a separate species in the first place, just an unusually large specimen. It's hard to know now.
Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
So, there's another one ten times as large out there, according to the Bible's logic?
What exactly was found and where's the pictures?
0 5/rink.html says: "For nearly 80 years, Gigantopithecus blackii has intrigued scientists, who have pieced together a description using nothing more than a handful of teeth and a set of jawbones."
http://www.mcmaster.ca/ua/opr/nms/newsreleases/20
Sounds conclusive to me. Can't wait to see the detailed picture of the creature.
So, you did not get a chance to create a map like that when you were a kid in your pajama sugared up on Fruit Loops and jujubes watching a Mummies Alive! marathon, eh?
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Human history isn't that old really...
That's right, because 5000 years ago God created the earth complete with skeletons of giant apes.
See! Evolution is wrong because humans lived alongside primates!
10 feet tall
1200+ lbs.
And some MMORPG makers would think that this thing, with a human brain and a sword, would have a tough time defeating a rat.
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Only cooks, mechanics, loggers, carpenters and sysadmins use anything but metric. The scientific community uses metric. Unless your building a space probe, then you use both.
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But in my book going extinct falls in the cateory of "having difficulty reproducing". Given that we have vastly more evidence of hobbit-like humanoids yet still aren't sure if they existed as a species or an illness, it seems we're inferring a lot from three jaws and the tooth fairy's collection. Oh, and we only rule the world because early humans found the cheat codes.
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See above...sort of.
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When I read this I had to jump in the car and take a drive. I hit 90 on the way to the graveyard. I breathed a sigh of relief when I got there. You see, I was afraid they'd dug up my mother-in-law...
Not saying your "FAT", but a 36" waist isn't anything to crow about. That would seem to indicate you have a spare tire around those parts. You need to work less on building up and more on leaning out. There's no way your waist should be above a 33 unless you have some weird mutation.
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There's some question regarding the intelligence of neanderthals insofar as the brain-to-body ratio. Neanderthals were much bigger-boned and the shape of the bones indicates they were a lot more muscular, so their larger brains were counterbalanced by everything else being bigger on them.
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Again, I wasn't rattling off my numbers to try to brag...only to prove that the BMI formula used by itself can be bogus in certain situations (like mine).
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yup, I made a horrible typo there. A whole word fell through the cracks of my proofreading. Anyway I am happy with the karma anyhow. Can you get more than 'excellent'?
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Art is an interesting type of psychosis.
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It is usually a compulsion that tends to become obsessive - for the 'artist'.
It is usually reiteratively structuralized, reductionist, formalized,
And involves a system of mistaking the reference for the object, reducing the and transferring perception of the latter to the former. And attaching oneself to it.
Artists remind me of caged or shackled animals, shifting their weight from side to side in whatever desperation it is they suffer.
Crazy is probably very close to the point.
Now, what can make a whole population consistently that crazy ? And still allow it to overrun everything, as we seem to have done ?
Where is the biggest dong? It is known that a Kodiak finding a naked woman in the forest would eat her flesh, while an ape would fuck her bloody.
Are'nt T-Rex fossils ususally accompanied by higher background radiation counts, that being a hint in trying to find them ?
Seems I saw something of the sort on some Discovery show or something.
That Shockwave flash presentation of badgers squatting their anus on black dildos wasn't entertaining, neither to the baby I hold in my hands while I was frantically trying to close that window.
If you want to get that BEAUTY AND THE BEAST thing out of your ears, just look for some Disney Porn and play the Korn industrial metal rock song GET THIS PARTY STARTED.
Those assumptions can be reproved. Just get some evidence, yet none can be proved or disproved without evidence. Without evidence, there is no controversey. The Bible exists because there is a controversey that was never settled; mineral rights, liberty, happiness, justice, et al. Who gets what, for how long, or why? There is some land that I can't claim because some dead man and his wife are in a casquette, and a bunch of deranged people keep bringing flowers to the same spot -- preventing me from perfecting my Squatter's Rights on that said grassy knoll. I swear, I'll shit on the tombstone.
Wherer are you coming from? I can't remember either, but here I Am.
Jesus wouldn't show his authority to do good deeds because the Pharisees wouldn't show their authority to do bad deeds; confessions are an admition of guilt, and bearing witness against ones-self admits multiple personality disorder. I can't show you my authority to walk into a market to buy food other than the soles of my feet wherever they stand, and at the moment I appear to be authorized to post from a Slashdot person "NRAdude."
I think if you change a few words around in poems of Homer that he begins sounding like Jesus.
Your intelligence is self-evident. You are claiming neither to be a Stupid Design or an Intelligent Design. If you've been taught to have faith without works, then you have en empty bottle. Don't you get annoyed when people fill the dumpster with so much bottled air, when it could be made compact for more matter to be stored?
In my life of being of sound mind, I read it cover-to-cover in five-month intervals. I looked for some code, found it, and know the meaning this collection of books has been intended and the knowledge it surrenders to competent people that approach it as humble students. It means to me absolutely 3====>.
Think of religion as wit calling forth the masses to assemble for some political purpose. re-Legionaire is an ongoing effort to the unproven end of time.
perhaps you saw that particular Discovery show sometime in 1998... brought to you by Taco Bell.
for a minute there, i lost myself...
Thanks for correcting me. It seems I'll be learning something even to the day that I die... 8-/
Since I was wrong, I apologize to the parent poster who was right in the first place and to everyone for not having researched the answer thoroughly before posting.
This thing was "only" 11 inches taller than the tallest man (3m = 118.1 inches). Take 118.1/107.1 and that's only 10.3% taller. Proportionally that's about the same as between a 5'2" woman (* average is 63.8) and 5'9" man, or between a 5'9" kicker and a 6'5" quarterback (e.g. Vince Young or Matt Leinart), or between a 6'5" quarterback and Shaq.
References:
young: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/pl
o'neal: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?sta
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame/andrethe
http://www.altonweb.com/history/wadlow/ says:
"McMaster University recently announced the discovery of the remains of a gigantic ape, measuring over 3 meters tall and weighing up to 600kg, that supposedly co-existed alongside humans."
McMaster University did no such thing. They did not announce the discovery of Gigantopithecus blackii, which was described in 1935, 70 years ago. They announced that they had narrowed the time frame of its existence, which coincides with that of humans.
Title of TFA: "Giant ape lived alongside humans" [Emphasis mine]
In fact, many Bigfoot enthusiasts over the years have floated the theory that Sasquatch, Yeti et al are relic populations of G. blackii. I implore the editors to not accept such deliberately sensationalist ass-dribblings. Kinda lowers the intellectual tone around this fine upstanding fount of unbiased, objective knowledge. [/sarcasm] "Agent Provocateur" indeed.Man, I want some of whatever it is you're on!
I've know one of these apes for a long time. His name is Joe Miller. I think he was one of Samuel Clemmen's body guard on the "Not for Hire".
I thought he died.