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Ask Slashdot: What Video Games Keep You From Using Linux?
skade88 writes "Everyone knows content is king. Many of us use Windows or OS X at home instead of Linux because the games we love just are not available on Linux. With Steam moving forward for a Linux launch, I would like to hear from the Slashdot community on this topic. What are the game(s) you cannot live without? If they were available in Linux would you be happy to run Linux instead of Windows or OS X?"
the sound subsystem fragmentation is what keeping Linux from being an obvious target for game publisher.
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I would love to be able to play GW2 on Linux, since it constitutes 99+% of the gaming that I do these days. Mass Effect 3 would be cool too, but I don't really play it much anymore. I'm looking forward to playing native versions of Portal and Left 4 Dead on Linux soon.
The real question should be... what games do you want now, and in the future. Just getting all games to work that I want now doesn't really help me when Awesome cool game 15 comes out and I really want it. This is coming from a person who has been using Linux for years.
None at all.
I use Windows for two reasons:
Games
They run it at work, and I get paid to support it.
If they ran linux at work, I'd support that.
Games are a windows thing, and my primary hobby, so....yea. ALL the games!
Aside from a couple of great indie games, the majority of the games I've enjoyed in the past few months are not available for Linux.
The opposite question would have a much shorter answer.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
I use Linux as my desktop OS, and I use a console for gaming.
Enough Said.
Drivers, installed base, drivers, familiar windows interface, drivers, most users can barely power their machine on much less install linux, drivers, forget installing linux software...see comment before the last comment, drivers, lack of vendor support, and drivers.
Oh did I mention drivers?
Only the dead have seen the end of War. - Plato
To be honest - Microsoft Office. Most of the people I communicate with use MsOffice products, and yes, I have heard of OpenOffice and LibreOffice, however, their cross-compatibility is not perfect. This is a no-go - when I send a customer an important document - I have to be sure everything is looking good / professional and that the other side has no issues with what I sent them. When I receive a document from a client - I have to be sure I get exactly what the customer sent. Sometime PDF is not a valid solution. LibreOffice does not promise it to me, yet (in my current opinion).
I don't have any kids (yet), who else would've use my computer for gaming?
I play a little (read: a lot of) Minecraft, which is available on Linux. The reason I started playing it in fact is because it was for Linux and that's all I had. I've also started accruing a library of games from Steam that I tend to not play, including a few games that I play online with friends. I suppose those games would keep me from switching back to Linux, all other things being equal.
But in all honesty, I haven't switched back to Linux since Windows 7 came out because I don't mind using Windows 7. If it sucked, I'd be on Linux and no game could pull me back. But, much to the chagrin of many, Windows 7 is a pretty good OS and I have no problem using it even though I almost never play really serious games on my computer.
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dishonored, xcom, torchlight and chessbase
Games are the one thing that still ties me to Windows as opposed to having a choice. Yeah, some games run on OSX/Linux, but not the vast majority.
At this time Natural Selection II is holding my interest.
No attention span. I pick up a box in the store, feel the hours sucked vampirically from my body into the box. I put the box down.
Disclaimer: it's really all the fault of Sid Meier's Civilization series.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
xbill
i kid i kid.
i really enjoyed playing xevil. anyone remember lokigames? seems like most of the vocal /. community these days is not even remotely oldschool.. mad nubage
I'm really done with computer gaming. Now if you want to talk about how Netflix keeps me from using Linux, I'll be glad to talk.
"Technology.....the knack of so arranging the world that we don't have to experience it." Max Firsch
I have been a avid World Of Warcraft player for some time, i think that would be one of the top games not available in Linux. Other games I'm playing now include Battlefield 3, and COD.
Hell, I like to make things run on WINE, that's a game in itself!, but untill Joe Sixpack can drop in DVD / Download-and-play-with-one-click, LINUX gaming will struggle. (Remember even WINDOWS gaming is too hard for a lot of people, with DX updates, various runtimes, licensing, etc,etc .. thus, IMHO, console sales)
My last 2 computers had the obligatory Linux partition on the HDD, yet I never loaded Linux on either. Why? Cygwin. I can work in a *nix environment and game in a Windows environment.
So even though I first used Unix in '84, Linux in '94, and have written a handful of Linux device drivers, I don't see the need to run Linux at home.
The only reason Windows still lurks in my computer is Photoshop. True, GIMP is good, but it just doesn't measure up in terms of features or speed of workflow.
I say this is a silly question because it's not only about games I am playing now, it's also about games that will be playable in the future.. If the games are limited, for a gamer it doesn't seem worth it. I don't know many gamers who only play one game with the exception of those who stick to one MMORPG or something. I would switch if all steam games worked and there wasn't some crazy wait time after release for windows. And yes, it's because I'm too cheap to buy windows.
deal with it, nerd.
The answer of every average person is, "Yes." Please now proceed to mod me into oblivion for speaking the truth...
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
How come people dying for games don't just run Linux and their Windows OS of choice on dual boot? I use Ubuntu for most things and Windows 7 for Dungeons and Dragons Online.
This is still a problem on OSX even. It's depressing seeing all the cool new games on steam and not being able to play them.
Team Fortress 2. I need to play my digital hat game.
Ka-Bewm!!
KShisen, and KMahjongg. Oh, wait. You mean actually USE linux?
Sid
The ones that are going to come out that I want to play on day one and do not want to have to futz around with compatibility issues on.
Though with all the nasty DRM, lately (and unfortunately) I've been gaming on consoles.
iRacing is practically all I have time for, as it eats a LOT of time. But even if that didn't exist, practically every other game that exists is for Windows anyways. I'm fine sticking with Windows until every single game is available for Linux.
I've basically been waiting for steam. All the games I own are on steam now (thanks to introversion providing me a lovely steam key after they switched stores). Anything else I play is already Linux compatible (minecraft)
EVE Online works rather well with Linux on WINE, though I have had to switch back to Windows to use specific portions of it that aren't related to the core gameplay. Otherwise, with the Steam Linux beta out, and with the Linux Humble Indie Bundle titles, I'm rather set with Linux as a gaming platform.
Any of those will do.
I don't play games anymore, but with Linux, I always hated dealing with X.org. In Windows it is easy to change monitor resolution on the fly, or add a few extra monitors. Then there is also bad sound support, and Flash can be troublesome.
I like having the option to play new games or whatever games I stumble upon.
I do not know "what games I cannot live without" but in the last few months I have been playing:
Borderlands2
Diablo3
League of Legends
Cockatrice (free online magic the gathering program)
Terraria
And I have FTL and XCOM Enemy Unkonwn installed and ready to check out when I have free time.
But that M$ game doesn't run on M$ Windows either.
The Halo series?
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
Instead of complaining about this and that, ill do as the summary asks and actually list the games I currently cant do without:
- EVE Online
- Most of the DCS series ( A-10 Warthog, Black Shark )
- MS Flight Sim X
- Civilization V
- ARMA II
- PKR
Dark Souls.
It's not that there's any current game out there that's keeping my Windows partition around. It's knowing that the next AAA title I want to play with my friends isn't likely to support Linux. A lot of them are flashes in the pan, especially if multiplayer is a big component, and I'd like to play those with my friends around release day when WINE support isn't too hot.
I want to know that Borderlands 3 is going to have Linux support right out of the gate so I can have a release day LAN party. And hidden gems like Section 8 too- the multiplayer community dwindled pretty quickly.
Pretty much anything with 3D acceleration, the open source drivers are horribly slow compared to Catalyst and thanks ATI for dropping my video card in the legacy pile where it still flies like a champ in Win 7 and 8.
Driver rant aside, nothing really jumps to mind, plays better in Windows, never mind a bunch of software that won't run under Wine that I must use.
Try and beat my high score of $1,100 in a day.
Final Fantasy.
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I like games. New and old. Small and big. I am a consistent Linux user, but I almost never use Linux for gaming. My home desktop is Windows, that got most computing power of all my machines and is used mainly for gaming. If I need to work on something I fire up Linux (or whatever I need) in VM (thankfully VMWare supports multiple monitors quite well, and graphic support just keeps getting better and better) and do all my work from there.
In the office I've got the opposite situation. My main workstation is Linux and I run Windows in VM when I am programming something Windows specific.
All of my laptops run Linux, since I've always considered gaming on a laptop to be a torture. Small time-killing games are Ok, but any serious gaming is terrible.
Most of the games that I am waiting for are Windows only (new Hitman, new Bioshock, new GTA) and I do not expect them to support Linux any time soon. However I try to support developers who develop games for Linux by buying them, but this is mostly small indie games.
Bottom line is as long as there are Windows-only games I want to play, there will be Windows on my system, and it is not going anywhere. If there is a game I must have on some other platform, it is likely that I will get that platform. I have couple xBoxes 360 and PS3. I have bought PS3 because only of one game (it actually collects dust since then). I do not have Wii though, and have no plans on getting one since the games just never seemed appealing to me, and I am not of Nintendo grown population. All my friends had consoles, my family had computer in my childhood.
According to Steam, the games I have spent the most time on in the while are (with the caveat that I play old games xkcd.com/606 style, and therefore will play the new versions when I get around to upgrading);
Fallout 3
Civ 4
Half-Life 2
Far Cry 2
Portal 2
Doom 3
FEAR
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Quake 4
I would also play copious amounts of DCS: Black Shark, if I wasn't also trying to have a career, stay fit and chase girls.
Oh, and Gratuitous Space Battles - but that works natively under Linux already. Yay!
How come people dying for games don't just run Linux and their Windows OS of choice on dual boot?
Having to disconnect from instant messaging. Losing all your open web browser windows. Music stops playing.
Netflix
It is buggy as all hell even on Windows, but for me it is one of the all time greats and I miss being able to play it.
I'm already running Linux instead of Windows or OS X, so I guess my answer is "none of them." Games aren't very high on my software priority list. That said, I'd probably buy some titles, if they were available on Linux.
I'd switch to linux with Valve's steam engine porting over, but... The closed source AMD graphics driver is fast-ish, but crazy glitchy. The opensource radeon driver runs really well, but isn't nearly fast enough. I'll be pleasantly surprised if Valve games work at all under AMD cards.
I can't switch until AMD figures their drivers out, the radeon driver gets MUCH better, or I switch to an Nvidia.
This engine is now sporting the best real-time lighting tech available, as well as one of the most usable programming, mapping, and scripting systems to date. A single person can build a AAA quality game. And I doubt Epic is currently targeting OpenGL and Linux. :(
I realize this isn't a game, but it will be the basis for a multitude of future games.
The game I stick with Windows for is Unreal 2004, which I still play several times a week with a small group of friends. But the more important answer is that, while I've used Steam for some demos and freebies and an old copy of HalfLife that I was forced to use with Steam when I reinstalled it, I'll never buy a product with Steam DRM built in, so it really doesn't matter to me what games they support. I prefer to own the things I buy, not have use of them as long as some one else thinks is long enough. With so many businesses that have failed and so many people complaining (even here) about having lost something that they thought they had bought because of DRM, I'm amazed that so many supposedly knowledgeable people are still being suckered into the scam of DRM.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
almost no good games (for me) are for linux... :(
but the main reason is i need unity3d to work, so windows and mac no linux
Xcom 2012, Civ 5, Elemental Fallen Enchantress, Fallout New Vegas, Battlefield 3, and Medieval 2 Total War. Those are the games I've installed and play as the mood strikes me. However they aren't the only ones, I have a list of other games I own but haven't the time to play yet. More or less I want all of the games. I love games, and I own a ton.
Games aren't the only things though, I'd also need Cakewalk Sonar (and affiliated plugins), or something very much like it, Native Instruments Kontakt and EastWest Play.
I'd also need support for my hardware, some of which is a bit esoteric (like a MCU Pro).
If I had a good DAW, good VIs, and all the games, I suppose I could consider switching. Of course I'd still need to be sold on a reason as to why, since personally I find Linux more frustrating to use.
However it isn't as simple as one or two games. I want all of the games I have, and all the new ones that spark my fancy.
Although I haven't tried it in wine, as the catalyst video drivers hate Linux on HD7000 series it seems. That said, I think it's working atm, I just had to downgrade kernel, install a beta driver. I don't think I've got rid of the watermark yet though. It's just easier to use Windows... and ssh into the other Linux box.
The political games that some FOSS advocates keep playing is what keeps me from running Linux. I'll stick to FreeBSD for now.
To everyone whining about how poorly linux runs modern games because of SDL/PA/ALSA/FUD/drivers don't forget that in 2007 I was gaming on Windows 7 with my other more dedicated GNU\Linux users on the same damn server with the same performance! I fail to see why it's so hard for any other developer to ignore this (other than ETQW's failure to actually take hold as an FPS but thats another issue entirely).
Now if Chris roberts was to get Star Citizen running in Fedora I would be a happy camper!!!
I really need this game
We all vote for Civilization. Most people are holding back just because they realize lifetimes are finite.
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I mostly play indie games nowadays, and the ones I like tend to release Linux clients. Other games I really like (read Warsow) are already for Linux. On the RTS front, I really only play Supreme Commander, and with the success of the Planetary Annihilation Kickstarter, it won't be long until my RTS itch is taken care of. On the RPG front, there are rumors that The Witcher 2 is being considered for a Linux release, and if that's true, we can expect CDP's future games to be on Linux too. I do really like the Evochron series, but as much as I bug Starwraith about it, they just don't have the resources to port it over, so I guess that would be a major reason.
So right now is essentially a transition period to using Linux on my main, gaming desktop for good. All my other computers already run Linux.
None. :-) There are a ton of games on Linux. See apt-get and yum for more info.
Just because Valve is creating a Linux-compatible client doesn't mean that developers and publishers are going to fall over themselves porting their wares to Linux, any more than they did to OSX. Some people may get rid of their Windows partitions because of it, through enticement or relief, but for the vast majority it will be irrelevant.
I spend a lot of time playing solitaire instead of doing something useful. Yeah, it's the Linux version but I don't consider playing Solitaire to be "using Linux."
Cheers,
Dave
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To be honest, I'm relatively happy with the combination of FOSS games, indie games like in the Humble Bundles, and older commercial games like Doom 3 and Wolf-ET such that gaming solely in Linux wouldn't be an issue for me. The problem, however, is a question of effort. Let me list one example:
- Doom 3 -
Windows:
* Install game
* Patch
* Play
Linux: .pak files from the game's CDs to where the binary is installed, because the official installer won't do it automatically (though it's possible someone's written a script to do this by now).
* Install using the latest Linux installer using the text interface (which was only supposed to be a backup in case the GUI works, which it doesn't anymore because it was built to use the GTK1.2 libraries which don't work properly/aren't available with modern distributions).
* Copy the required
* Run, then find out there's no sound because OSS was deprecated in modern Linux distributions. Spend an hour googling and trying different options until you find out the correct method to launch D3 with sound:
doom3 +set s_alsa_pcm plughw:0 +set s_driver alsa
* Create a .desktop file/link because the installer fails to do so properly, otherwise you don't get a shortcut in your DE of choice.
* Play, then discover you have massively jerky framerates because the Linux kernel changed to use a different method of timing (too complicated for me to understand) which affected how Doom 3 determines timing. Fixed using this additional variable during launch
set com_fixedtic 1
* Play and enjoy the same game that worked with far less effort in Windows.
Sure, half the problem was in iD not giving a crap at producing a good installer that would do most of the work for you (like copying required files) and not using static GTK libraries that would survive changes to distros. But things like the removal of OSS within the default builds of distros as well as the change to kernel timings, kinda do make a few problems for older games.
Newer stuff tends to works better, but often there are quirks even in newer Linux ports (I won't keep listing stuff but there are a number of complaints about bad Linux ports of a number of Humble Bundle games - look them up). For gaming, I get tired of messing about when things just fucking WORK in Windows. It's suppose to be entertainment and escapism after all.
Dude...
Linux already has a ton of games. Look through the repos via apt-get and yum, maybe open source is good for gaming too?
Oh, come on, Gabe, we know it's you. ;)
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Steam on Linux will be nice.
Mostly it's Battlefield 3 and the likes (new games with shiny graphics and DRM), they won't work well or at all.
i use linux but i sure would like to play the GTA franchise on linux native instead of playing it on ps3
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starcraft 2 is extremely terrible under wine, and I want it to be perfect, so yeah, I dual boot for sc2.
This is what a lot of /. really doesn't "get", although most of you clearly think you do. For the average user, of any OS, why switch?
I find The Secret World the only new and interesting game so far. I still dable in Dungeons and Dragons Online, have had varying success with it under wine.
Many a long talk since then I have had with the man in the moon; he had my confidence on the voyage. Joshua Slocum
there aren't any games that makes me stick with windows, pretty much all the games I play either for Linux, console games that run I in an emulator, or Windows programs that I run in Wine. though I probably won't be using the Linux version of steam, they only target Ubuntu based systems and won't let anyone package it for any systems, so getting it to run on anything but Ubuntu is a pain in the ass, plus all the DRM they put in it makes me not want it
while
CS:GO hands down.
I don't play them, I use to play games. But I'm not interested in playing games. I read alot of whining here about "Linux will never be successful because it cwarnt pway gwames". I'm sure there are many people that enjoy and like using linux, both as a desktop and in production enviroments. Hell, I even think plan9 is damn cool.
Why are games so important? for success on the desktop? for who?
Remember noobs, theres no Jobs or Gates in the linux desktop world, peeps try and come and go.
There is no captialistic ideal about linux "BEING A SUCCESS" on the desktop. Because remember, it doesn't belong to anyone.
So when people whine about linux sabotaging providers of binary blobs. Remember, linux doesn't give a shit because ITS NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR LINUX TO PLAY GAMES OR SUPPORT YOUR BINARY BLOBS - IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAT LINUX *DOES NOT SUPPORT* YOUR BINARY BLOBS.
Think about that for a minute. think about it *taps skull*. If you want linux to be around for many years to come...think about it *taps skull*.
In the meantime Install ..windows or whatever.
Now for more important things, like building my wormhole...
Splinter Cell........Hitman........SWTOR........TERA Online.......Blade & Soul.......
I don't know the demographics, but it's really not games that's keeping me personally on Winders. I want Adobe Lightroom and Adobe Creative Suite (not freeware "alternatives", not fiddling around with Wine but those specific applications running natively on, hell, any Linux distro) and something reasonably like the full version of Nero. Give me those working well on Linux, and I will gladly leave Windows and never look back.
If it's about content, let's port the prime content creators.
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>"What Video Games Keep You From Using Linux?"
Nothing. I don't play games at all on my computer. Play some on my Android phone and tablet, occasionally, though.
Linux keeps me from playing a good few games. Though, a lot of excellent ones run under WINE.
I have bought every blizzard game since warcraft 2 , so that would go a long way. battlefield 3 is pretty much the best FPS at the moment so you need that too.
These are my top three franchises...
- Fallout 3 & New Vegas
- Borderlands 1 & 2
- BioShock 1 & 2 (and Inifinite, coming soon!)
Well, plus the entire Valve catalog, but I guess that goes without saying.
I became a heavy user of windows, not because I like windows or wanted to use it. It was because it had the most focus from the developers. Games come out for it first, the software is written for the platform first (usually) and typically ran better than the games ported to the Mac (at the time I decided on buying my last few PCs). Ported games generally suck for a number of reasons, and that's why I don't run OS X or Linux for games. Even though games run on a particular alternative OS, they are usually a sub-par experience mainly due to lack of developer focus on those platforms. Ports typically run worse than their windows counter part. I know this isn't intrinsic, but its an accurate rule of thumb up until this point. Often times mod support is poor on OS ports. I know for a long time, ports could not even play with clients on windows for whatever reason. This is less of the case these days, but think back to 2004-2005. I would REALLY love to get away from windows and start running linux for gaming too, and am willing to help out on that effort simply by doing it, which is why this Valve/Linux direction pleases me so much. Windows is a terribly crippled OS in so many ways, I would love to get away from it as much as possible, and hopefully mostly avoid apple where I can since they will never support building your own systems which is pretty core to PC gaming.
I'll pretend you asked which games I would like to see come to Linux as an existing user, these are (in no particular order);
Assassins Creed, Total War, XUniverse (X3 etc), Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Kings Bounty, Football Manager, Arkhams, GTA and Hitman.
I would never boot Windows again. I know it's shooting for the stars but I can dream. To be fair many of these have been ported to OSX and Linux can't be that different, plus I read earlier that Egosoft (X3) is going to do it.
Also, the Dawn of War series (RPG)
However, most of the programs I want including DoW will run on Wine. Sins ... not so much.
...Steve
I can easily list a bunch of games that stop me from using Linux at home: Starcraft2, Heroes of Might and Magic series, Various MMOs. There are also ones like Braid, Portal 1/2 and World of Goo that I expect to be playable on Linux within a year (some already are).
None of that matters when the next game comes out and I can't play it.
Worse still is when gaming on Linux causes a bad experience relative to Windows games. After my days messing with WINE and OpenGl the time I'm not mucking around in Linux is time I'm actually playing. If I value my free time similarly to what I'm paid, any attempt to game on Linux easily justifies my Windows license.
I really do hope Steam gets it going, but don't count me as hopeful. Until that day, Linux will remain a work tool while Windows allows for stress free fun.
What Linux really needs is some draw for home use that I can't do on Windows.
Note: Games are not the only thing holding me back.
The correct answer is all of them and also my mouse's custom software/driver, my GPU's drivers, my sound drivers, and the fact that I'm usually watching Netflix on monitor 2 at the same time.
It's all games really. Classics. New releases. I can fire up damned near anything on Windows (8, even), and have it run just fine. When I can do that on Linux, I'll move away from Windows completely.
The C&C series is probably the biggest thing keeping me from Linux-as-a-main-OS (gaming wise that is). That and Elder Scrolls.
For me it would used to have been World of Warcraft but I'm not playing now. Now I would say Silverlight that works(Need it for School), Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, and the like.
Why should I switch to Linux if it's only going to do the same things as Windows? If there isn't something seriously broken in Windows (there isn't that I care about), and the only reason to switch to Linux is to play the same games as I can on Windows or do the same stuff there, then why should I bother switching?
It's the eternal problem with WoW clones. Why would anyone switch to a clone of the game they're already playing if doesn't improve on WoW?
At the moment that is what I'm playing the most. I also play Battlefield 3, Civilization 5, and its been a while but Team Fortress 2.
I welcome you to point out anything that is wrong or incorrect in my post. Anything that so many people who've failed to completely switch to Linux have encountered themselves.
Dude...
On top of that, it needs to be as easy as it is on Windows to get multiple monitors working, install new drivers, and apply patches. Granted, it's been 4 years since I've tried, but I couldn't get multiple monitors working in Kubuntu. The phrase "recompile the kernel" should never be seen by the user. I want to just check "I agree" and click "next".
Photoshop etc.
It really isn't the games which I can not live without, it's the fact that when I get drawn into a game, then I don't want to have to wait until I can get it to work with WINE. Normally, I'm one of the people that are in pre-release and enjoying the game. Granted, I would love to be able to run it on Linux, but my game time is limited (work, family, sleep, etc.) So when I get a game, I want to be able to just play it. The last game I played was GW2 and I'm just so in the mentality of "play video game" = boot to Windows...
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." General James Mattis
If they ported the engine to Linux I'd MAKE the games keeping me from using Linux.
No, not games, but I've never known anyone that stayed away from Linux as a primary platform because of games. I have known many, though, that needed a handful of specific apps that simply didn't exist on Linux and that didn't run well in emulation.
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
All my linuxes are terminals, and I use putty to access them. That works wonder for me, and I still find that the windows interface works better for this. Now, about games, I`d need linux to be as fast as the windows one, and at this time it would be borderlands 2 and the war z. What it means is that this will always be a moving target.. Then, there are all the tools for work that I woudl need.
At this point, I really like linux for my servers, windows as my main workstation, and those small apple mini for my build machines for ios..
...except Solitaire and Mahjong, so I have almost no need for Windows. Now if someone would just put out a decent video editing application, I wouldn't need to turn on my Windows Netbook except when traveling.
I guess since I already accepted years ago that many of the newest and hottest games are not available to me (since I wont install STEAM or other DRM) I may not be the demographic this was aimed at. However I am a longtime gamer who has put unbelievable amounts of time and money into my games over the years. I love games, and if most of my games are old it's simply because most of the new ones require DRM that I am never going to install on my machine, period.
I am running windows because it is required for work, not because it is required for my games. I am not sure how many would run under WINE today but I bet a pretty good percentage - last time I had a dedicated linux machine I remember WINE handling a good percentage of my games. Unfortunately work is not so liberal. A large and critical portion of my required software load wont run without windows. Because of poor programming, absolutely, but I still need my paycheck.
And frankly, I wouldnt want Linux to take the sort of steps that would be necessary to change that situation from that end. I have to use windows because my job is support - supporting crappy software. Even if there werent specific required tools that would fail, I still need to eat the dogfood I am supporting to really do a good job supporting it. Changing it enough to make it usable for my work, or for my games, would just be making it into the same crap I want to get away from. Better to wait a few more paychecks till I can afford a second machine for my own use, then I will have the dogfood I need to eat in front of me, and a real useful system off to the side - and the ability to use the best parts of each to accomplish my tasks.
If you want a free windows clone support ReactOS, please dont make Linux into a windows clone instead. That would be the definition of tragedy.
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Linux is already fun without games.
None, I used to use Windows 7 due to League of Legends but at the end I got to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the hassle.
Tux Racer
Games: Sword of the Stars 2 (for me) and lego Star Wars (my son). Other: Adobe.
All of them, or close enough. I play far too many games that having a single one running on Linux isn't enough for me to warrant ditching Windows. 10% running on Linux wouldn't be enough, it would have to be closer to 95%. And for that to happen, there would have to be some sort of miraculous movement of concious thought within the game industry to start developing games for Linux instead of Windows. Lone developers can't shift the industry. Games are the sole reason I use Windows.
I tend to run a generation behind on PC games due to budget / hardware decisions. Because of this many of the games I wish to play are well supported by WINE. However online only games which receive regular updates tend to fall at this hurdle. The MMORPGs obiviously spring to mind, but other games such as the MOBAs suffer the same frustrations. Currently my poison of choice is League of Legends. When this current obsession finally fades, I'm sure another gaming drug will leap to fill its place. Being offline even for a couple of days waiting for a Linux patch would give me significant withdrawal symptoms.
Matrix Sexplorer. Easily the most fun and addictive game that's not available on any other platform.
With the help of Cygwin there's more or less nothing I would ever do on a Unix/Linux system that I can't do on a Windows system, and do it easier, and typically faster and more reliably. And that includes software development targeted at Unix.
The inverse however, just isn't so and most likely never, ever will be.
So the choice is really:
The best of Windows + The best of Linux
vs
The best of Linux
Despite the fact that I'm an old school Unix guy and still strongly prefer it for my work systems (servers), the fact is Unix lost the "workstation" market a decade ago and there's just no sane reason to believe they'd ever capture the "gamer" market, for all the same reasons and more.
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I would say the COD and HALO series; and of course my favorite Battlefield 3. Multiplayer, of course.
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Tomb Raider and Half-Life
I used to zone out for hours on games. I would enter that world and not come out until some sort of physical discomfort would result... needing to pee, eat or something. But lately? I just don't get those quality hours to myself any longer. Life is filled with "things to do" and crap like that. Worse, sometimes I look back at myself thinking "look at all the time I wasted." I don't want to think that way really. There is some value in it... somewhere... somehow. I guess my problem was that I can't really do it in moderation. So the games I play are games I can put down at a moment's notice. The pain of having to stop when I'm in the middle of an involving situation is just too much sometimes.
But I'm only one type of gamer. There are lots of others... others I can't understand. Like the cheaters. I seriously don't get that. Many of us are addicted to the accomplishments and achievements; The goal setting; The execution of a strategy; the prefection of trial and error. Then there are the troll cheaters whose only purpose is to make other people angry with their faux-god-like cheats making themselve believe that knowledge is the weapon. (Yes, in the real world, knowledge IS the weapon, but in games, it's about actually being better or at least the best you can be.) All the cheaters do is take away from others.
And then there are the kiddies who do a thing which annoys other players... camping and hoarding. Reminds me of a certain set of children... they had to have been between 10 and 14 years old. I was playing Halo2 online. It was one of those one-on-one levels where if you got the rocket launcher, you could pretty much run the game. And that's when the kiddies started arriving. It became a race to get the rocket launcher. Took the fun out of it. Finally, I just let him have it. I got the shotgun and somehow managed to hit him in the chest and point blank range 5, 6, 7 times in a row. He just quit the game. Another player... same damned thing. I countered with shotgun... another quitter. And a third. It's not quite "cheating" but it is playing in a way that sucks the fun out of it. Why do people have to do that?
But I just had to be the vigilante, fighting the injustices with counters and proving that their flawless strategies weren't quite so flawless. Reminds me of the Street Fighter 2 game days... where one person would play a favorite character and thought he could be anyone with it. What'd I do? I asked them "pick the character I will use to beat you..." And I did. Because in the end, it was their singular technique that made them weak. I simply worked out a counter to whatever strategy they wanted to apply.
Gaming is not about winning for me. It's about overcoming limitations and things that hold me back or making the most of any given scenario. Cheating is changing the scenario and a false win. It doesn't matter to me if I win each time just as long as I do better than my last try in one way or another. And I can make games last a lot longer that way.
I'm sure a ton of people will disagree with my approach(es). They are different gamers. Even a few will probably even try to justify cheats somehow calling it a service to others or some such thing. It's crap. It's trolling and seeks to get one's jollies by causing someone to rage. I pity those people. They have no idea of the harm they are causing to their character... their personal character... that is who they are as people. There are simply too many of those people... the people who bought up the Nexus 4 phones only for the purpose of dumping them on eBay for twice the price. They don't enjoy the gaming... they are just gaming the system... taking without giving anything back. "Flippers." I have no use for those dirt bags. A net loss on society as their gains don't even come close to the harm they cause like artificially raising values and creating scarcity where it shouldn't exist.
I guess I'm just about done rambling... it's time for bed. I'm tired.
I miss gaming.
A good quality flight simulation software game using XSquawkBox that can be easily installed using Debian package management that compares to the Microsoft FSX or FS2004. Yes, X-Plane 9.X and 10.X are out there, but it is extremely difficult to get X-Plane to run on a Linux box - believe me, I've tried. A lot of add-ons (both aircraft and scenery) can be created by the flight sim community and be taken advantage of by the community and also create a better product for the community of users! Personally, if I could get a flight simulation game that accomplished this, I would get rid of my only Windows box and be a full-time Linux user.
My wife got addicted to this game and I mostly reboot under linux to play it. It could probably work under wine/ubuntu but I confess that I didn't have the courage to redo the whole day of configuration to activate the accelerated graphics of my ATI card.
The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
Does Unity count? The thing is a steaming pile of dog shit. Gets worse every time I peak in on it too. Christ, it sucks.
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Hi, AC here who spends 10-20 hours a week on PC games.
... they have an opportunity to succeed in the video game market where several niches exist unfulfilled and the big players have (so far) failed to execute successfully.
My requirements:
1) All current Steam games that run on DirectX9 must be fully playable on Linux.
- This will cover most items from 2001-present. Only a handful of games are DX10/11 exclusive.
2) All current third-party trainers, tools, etc. must be ported to Linux.
- Torchlight on Linux is nice to see. Now get the Mod Manager to work on it.
3) Other exclusive platforms must be ported
- I'm looking at you EA/Origin. Origin needs to come to Linux or you have to negotiate a new deal with EA to make Origin exclusive titles available on a Linux-based platform (Steam itself not a requirement, though ideal).
4) Performance must be the same on Linux
- Crysis should be one of your benchmarks. If I can't run Crysis on Linux as well as I can Windows, forget it.
5) Non-game software
- Turbotax, Quicken, iTunes, Chief Architect Home Design, Logitech Harmony software all must be native and 100% functional. No WINE or other hacks.
For the $100 tax, I'll stick with Windows7 at home and not be forced to spend the time to find workarounds to all of the above. Good luck.
P.S. Steam's target market isn't current Windows gamers and getting them to switch to Linux. They will keep their current PC gamers as just that, PC gamers, regardless of which OS they use. Think much broader
I can fuss with WINE and hope that the next patch of WINE, EVE, the kernel, or whatever, doesn't break it; or I can keep running EVE on Win7. Since I can afford Win7, it's a pretty easy choice.
I have my system setup to dual boot Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 7. I use Windows 7 for gaming only, and Ubuntu for everything else. If it wasn't for PC gaming I would dump Windows entirely. Steam for Linux is a step in the right direction, but I don't think it will be enough for me to ditch Windows. I doubt that Dead Space 3, Thief 4, Bioshock Ultimate, and other non-Valve games I care about will run natively under Linux. Games run unreliably under WINE, and Linux video driver support isn't the best. I can currently run Fallout: New Vegas with WINE, but it lacks nice things like Anti Aliasing.
Drivers are what keep me from using Linux to game or work in general! I have a fairly powerful desktop, run several virtual machines (one with Slack13 and one with the latest Ubuntu) and play a bunch of games when not working. I tried installing Ubuntu on my hardware and instantly got hit by video card drivers, incompatible sound libraries for this and that version of Linux, distro specific packaging systems, you don't have this dependency so sound won't work...
Games I'd love to have working in Linux:
X-Plane. There IS a linux version, but my joystick and sound require hours of work and fiddling with dependencies to even get them to work
XCom 2012
Civ 5
Simcity 4 (yes, still here)
F1 2011/2012
Dirt2/Dirt3 (and get the actual steering wheel working in Linux no matter what distro!)
I don't game, but I WAS an Ubuntu user until 12.xx came out. Upgraded and it sucked! Flaky browser, hard to navigate. Finally, Linux has reached parity with Windows!
I guess I'm not as lazy, or as addicted as some of the other posters here. I am simply unwilling to pay for a closed-source operating system. I might dual boot Windows if it were free, or might even pay for it if it were open source and freely extensible.
I liked gaming, but I won't be shackled to MS or Apple and their current business models. I have gotten what I care about to work in WINE under Play On Linux, and the rest of them won't see another dollar from me until they are Linux native.
I play some games casually... Eve Online, Empires at War. The former runs in Cider and the latter one may or may not be native OS X. I don't care. They work good enough.
I've played around with Linux since some early RedHat days on Acer (I think) laptop, dating back to 1998 or so. I'm not afraid of command lines, X86conf files, etc., and such is hardly even needed these days. I install the latest Ubuntu in a VM for a few weeks every time there's a new release (Unity was particularly offsetting) but there's nothing there that compels me to switch away from Mac OS X. It’s like switching to the metric system (which I use professionally) in my daily life: why bother?
If WINE worked flawlessly with Office 2010, then at least I’d consider migrating my Win7 VM to Linux. I only need to run OneNote and Access (and, yeah, EveMon) from time to time, and that’s merely for work.
Yeah, maybe someday Mac OS X will be completely iOS-ified. The day that happens, I will consider fully switching (although, I use iOS instead of any of the Android operating systems, jailbroken of course (except for my phone – stupid “Good For Enterprise” is a tattletale).
Oh, I am talking about my main, home desktop machines. I keep Ubuntu around on some nettops that I used as Plex front ends, and for many years my main, household file server was a Debian box until I Hackintosh’d it. My offshore seedbox is Linux.
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Games don't keep me from linux on the desktop. The fact that linux sucks on the desktop does. And my servers are headless--not sure why I would want to play games on them in the first place.
I use Linux for a much more productive work environment. If I want to play a game I get out my iPad or iPhone. I only game for a quick fix anyway. Who wants to be tied down to their desk for hours on end when they aren't even working anymore? I get console games from the couch still but people really still let games dictate their OS choice?
I've been using linux on my laptop straight for 9+ years but every one of those years I've had to keep a spare harddrive with windows...because every single time I've upgraded 'yum -u' my wireless has stopped working. I switch distros, it stops working. I have a thinkpad t420 and I just upgraded to fedora core 17 and guess what, it stopped working.
So I figured, since I have to keep windows around since I can't trust linux everytime I update/upgrade/switch, I might was well just use the OS that I don't have to keep a spare around to ensure it works. Just two months ago I made the switch back to windows for my laptop.
Now, my personal server is always plugged in via a cat 5 cable,so upgrading/updating/switching has never been a problem and I will continue to use linux here. I like that I can play games on windows, I love that I can trust my internet will always work with windows. (personally, I've never been a huge fan of windows, but windows 7 is not that bad...actually, it's pretty good)
Toughest game ever. We play it at work as a team building exercise. Can you make that work on Linux please?
Maybe slightly off-topic, but the biggest impediment to my full-on adoption of linux is a lack of reliable color calibration. And, while capable, Gimp is a bear. Finally, I really like the ease of use of lightroom—not too many options there.
There is a community of people trying to run Eve in Wine on Linux. It's is such a painful experience... We have been asking them for a native client, or even just simple Wine support, for years.
TuxRacer would be awesome to port to Linux !!
I'm not 12 years old, nor do I have the emotional and intellectual development of a 12-year-old.
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The only reason I have reinstalled Windows on my PC's at home is for games and NetFlix. BattleField 3, Torchlight 2.
I am able to do everything else that I need with Linux.
It's not just a question of past and current games, but future games as well.
Will the next Arkham game support Linux? The next Battlefield? The next Crysis? The next Deus Ex? The next Elder Scrolls? Odds are the answer is "no" to all of them, and I'm only five letters into the alphabet.
More than that, will it run well? It's already rough enough, playing console ports on Windows - having to put up with bad control schemes, limited graphics options, often having to do some fiddling just to make a game work, simply because the developers considered Windows to be a second-class system. And if you think they won't consider Linux a second-class citizen or worse, you must be smoking something good.
There's no single game holding gamers onto Windows. There's no group of games holding us on. There's pretty much every game, ever.
Yes, for some of you, one or two games would suffice to pull you over. But ask yourself - are you a "gamer", or are you a "person who plays games sometimes"? As for me, I'm a gamer. This week alone, I played seven different games. Twenty-two in the past month. For people like me, Linux just won't cut it.
At least, not for a while. If 90+% of the games released on Windows also come out on Linux, over the next few years, it will be a serious contender. Or if there's a good, AAA-quality title that is released as a Linux exclusive, that could push things.
But it is not going to be an overnight process. Linux is only recently beginning to appear attractive to developers. Next you'll have to convince the marketing executives, THEN you can start convincing the gamers.
Thre is no game that is "keeping me" from running Linux. I have two computers - one for gaming running Windows and one for everything else running Linux. I do believe Steam for Linux will change the paradigm, though, for PC gaming. I am excited to see what games will be released. Whether they are released for Windows or Linux, I am ready.
Not a game, but Microsoft OneNote. And it's not that it keeps me from using linux, but it does force me to keep a Windows partition that I'd rather do without.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
Give me a media player with the capabilities of zoom player & i'll switch in an instant.
If you can port Outlook to Linux, I'm in.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
Well, in fact its more than the games (maybe 100+).
Twenty years of windows application purchases/acquisitions have given me quite a large library of things I use on/off but am not willing to part with. Old legal license of matlab, protel, photoshop, anydvd, Office 2003, MS money, corel painter, etc. Then there are the metric ton of assorted electronic tools with GPIB interfaces, flash/EPROM programmers, etc that only really work in windows.
Plus, most of the best opensource/free software runs very well on windows, inkscape, blender, firefox, freemake. KEGS, The list goes on, many of them work better on windows than Linux.
The one reason I use windows has been the consistency, and the near guarantee (until vista at least) that my existing software and training investments would be maintained going forward. This is something that MS has completely forgotten. Sure there are a lot of people willing to throw their PC's away in exchange for a iPad or whatnot (have one of those too), but catering to that customer base is risky because they lose the vendor lock that put them in the position they are in today. No one buys windows or Intel because they like them. They buy them because they provided a small sense of stability
I have been running linux on machines since the days before there were distributions. But its never been on my primary desktop machine as anything other than a dual boot or a VM. I've been employed working on linux for 10+ years now, and in all that time I still find that it runs best when relegated to a VM or external server with an X server in windows. To this day, I have yet to find a linux distribution that works with multiple heads, and can rotate only a portion of the heads (its all or nothing, or its broken).
So, the effort to get Kings Quest running on my windows machine for my daughter pays for the windows license in the hours of avoiding screwing with wine, or for that matter buying it again from GOG (those guys rock! I have a bunch of GOG games now too).
And this is sort of the barb, that Apple has too, once you have spent thousands of dollars on apps/movies/music/books/etc and your standing in the store next to the geewiz new tablet from korean vendor XYZ or the ipad+1 for twice the price and 1/2 the features which one do you choose?
There are plenty of games that work on Linux and it's a general trend that indi gmes are released for Linux now. There are some games that I would like to have on Linux but to be honest I could just as easily spend my time playing games that already do.
I don't run Windows at all anymore - I don't even have a machine that runs it. That's not to say I won't welcome Steam on Linux - I think they'll find me a good customer.
Children. Feh.
its the fact that there are dozens of games out there that are far above crap. and they are being released with directx and pandering into the microsoft monopoly. we need game developers and corporations to be willing to stand up to these contractual games and just release games with an opengl or many other graphics systems available.
then we can have the game on whatever the hack system or OS we feel like consuming them on
Currently, I am playing Freespace 2 like games for Linux; like Battlestar Galatica: Dispora. This game is very easy to install; not much in going to other places to download requirements because everything needed is included. Very fun game for me to play. Now, if I can get some kind of flight stick insteaed of using a mouse.....
that's it.
If my comment didn't sound as good in your head as it did in mine, then I guess we all know who's to blame
You can play Infocom-style text games on Linux. What else is there? Oh, you mean that modern whiz-bang FPS stuff? Nah. If I have Zork, my world is complete.
If I could have MWO, Battlefield 3 (and all future releases) plus valve's library, i'd be good.
I don't have the time to play games, you insensitive clod.
I do everything useful in debian and reboot just to play Skyrim in win7. SSD and parallel init on both sides make this very quick: 20 seconds gui to gui. (I set grub up to automatically toggle back and forth)
Assassins Creed series, Borderlands 1 and 2, Torchlight 1 and 2 also GOG.com
A better one would be "What games would you buy IF you could run them in linux?"
After years of fighting with getting new games running I "gave up" a few years back and I haven't tried ANY games that weren't linux-native (or at least Steam) for a long time.
WINE can work great but depending on distro, kernel version and video card, it may take some work to get it running well. When it does it sometimes does better than native Windows, but... yeah, it can be a lot of work.
SC2 and the newer editions of Diablo are not that new but are two of the games I WOULD buy if they ran linux-native.
Because I don't run windows or mac on my computer, however, and I am not willing to shell out $40+ USD for a game that may or MAY NOT ever work well...never mind the effort it takes to get it running.... yeah, none of the major game publishers have gotten any money out of me for quite a long time.
I admit it would probably not add up to more than 500 USD max over the last 5 years or so, but that's still money they lost.
And there may be more like me out there.
It's not that current games are keeping me from switching, it is that I want to be able to play new games when they come out, not after an enormous delay. That delay may have become shorter in recent years, but that is the reasoning that sticks with me.
While I play games on Linux, older wine'd and emu'd games along with good native titles like Amnesia, I mostly gave up on PC gaming due to DRM. When i bought retail Orange Box and installed it, typed in the key, then it insisted on having Steam running and downloading everything again, I went out and bought an Xbox 360.
I'm pretty happy with this setup, as good software which really requires a computer to play works fine on Linux, such as strategy and simulator titles (Xplane in particular). The rest is more fun to play on the TV anyway, and as I work all day on computers the last thing I want to do is tinker with one just to play games.
But it'll never happen so I stay on Windows. :/
Currently, I am playing Freespace 2 like games for Linux; like Battlestar Galatica: Dispora. This game is very easy to install; not much in going to other places to download requirements because everything needed is included. Very fun game for me to play. Now, if I can get some kind of flight stick instead of using a mouse.....
I have enough consoles at home to keep my self occupied with 100's of games from years past. Just today I bought NBA Jam for my Saturn. Spent 3 hours playing wth the kids.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
I'm considering the switch to Linux from Win7 now that Steam is in the works. Personally, I would like to see HL2/3/CS:GO and Source, Arma 3 and DayZ standalone, Blizzard's next MMORPG; I would say the next Mass Effect, but no, that franchise has fallen into a black hole. Crysis 3 looks pretty sweet but probably no dice there either. The good news is that Star Citizen might be winging its way over and I see X-Plane 10 has already landed. I'm sure that GTA5 would capture an audience, too.
I know this will sound odd coming from the guy who helped popularize games on Linux w/ the Doom & Quake ports, but I actually want more text-based games like nethack.
I've been playing nethack constantly for about 20 years now, and I've only won a few dozen times. I just won again as a monk last night, and it was still concentrated awesome. I think a big part of its excellence is that it doesn't have pretty graphics to lean on, so it was forced to be seriously fucking fun and different every time. You just don't find games with that amount of procedurally generated, radically different gameplay every time you play them anymore. I also love that it's turn based because it actually lets me play the game faster the better I get at it, and I type 100wpm, which means I get a shit-ton more enjoyment out of it than I can out of most graphically-intensive real-time games. I also love that I can play it entirely with the keyboard without ever having to slow myself down with a mouse. I also love that I can read the source code, scour the nethack wiki, and still be challenged every time I play it. Plus, every time someone catches me playing it, they think I'm hard at work on something technical. :)
Nethack is really a masterwork of game design, and I'd love to play more masterwork text-based RPG's as well as other genres like strategy.
I think like most people, I use Linux only on servers and over ssh, so it's really the format I want the game in. The fancy graphics I want are coloured, extended-ASCII graphics. That's plenty, thanks!
Can't go without some battlefield 3 or netflix, but that's what dual boot is for.
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I use Linux.
99% of the time
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Although I can play it with the c64 emulator.
Don't get me wrong it sucks right now but what is going to happen is that in 10 years consoles will be dead. The hardware to push a 1080p 3D scene isn't all that expensive. Look at the WiiU, they say that it is barely more powerful than an XBox 360. In a couple of years something equivalent to a Raspberry Pi will be all you need in terms of hardware and at that point the cost of the OS becomes a major factor. Anybody will be able to put out a "console". You'll have a race to the bottom in console hardware just to get buy-in to an online game store. Gabe/Valve/Steam are trying to get a jump on it but I'd bet that GoogleTV/Android get pulled in that direction too.
My Hello World is 512 bytes. But it's also a valid Fat12 boot sector, Fat12 file reader, and Pmode routine.
World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, get blizzard to play ball with linux, i'll move there, period, so will everyone else, microsoft will go bye bye >
you need to VM the video card or have some kind of pass though for 3D and maybe even some 2d stuff as well.
Even if VGChartz (http://www.vgchartz.com) represents the mainstream buying pattern for all platforms, they list a lot of games strict Linux users probably would have bought too had they only known about them. It has weekly stats for all games, platforms, etc. for the last eight years by USA/EU/Japan. Surely it must represent fairly well what keeps the mainstream away from Linux.
And I would completely switch to Linux if this would be available: Splintercell... All of them...
and play everything by Sid Meier and Microprose.
Tribes:Ascend is the game I'd switch to linux for. But then another game would come along and I wouldn't be able to play it because I use linux :(
Until games are released for both platforms at the same time I don't see switching.
Your post sounds like a meme. The real clue is where you said you installed "Win8" which 1) a shortform of the OS that seems crudely updated for the times because 2) no one says "win8" yet, or would much less recommend it, especially being a career linux user. Its still windows 8 because its new.
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Sounds like a "bsd is dying" post, the composition anyways. grain of salt this ac at the very least!
All my emulators, most notably dolphin. The directx 11 and 9 shaders work much better than the opengl shader.
also, its not a video game, but Notepad++. I can't seem to find a better text editor on any other platform.
I don't like running random executables on the same OS that I do my banking.
I'd like to play The Game: Configuration Edition.
Where you never think about environment configuration, and if you do, you have lost.
When I'm using reasonable hardware, I should be able to get triple screens set up with practically no hassle, and never have to touch a text editor.
If I could play League of Legends, which is free to play: http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4efaeb1eb680d980013579 along with photoshop and office, I would leave windoze behind forever.
I get the feeling that gnome and kde are just too far up in the stack to get anything good going on. Seems that this should have happened a long time ago.
I thought that Linux was meant to me a player in the market and wanted to beat the socks off Microsoft, But does not look like it will ever get there??
Android started fresh with the best of both worlds, not too many over heads to slow things down, same with IOS.
This is where ones vision of pcs back in the earlier days people thought that one day the pc will do everything. And it does, but just not that well. infact poorly.at the end of the day people will just use what they are used to or what ever gets the job done. If you can play games then thats a bonus.
I think really the gaming platform is the way to go. leave the pc to the business world, and push this area to its max!!
I'd really like to play Project Eternity, that new Shadowrun IP, and a few other kickstarted games on Linux. Those are the games I'm looking forward to, so those are the ones I'm most concerned about. I think that this move should be about the future; trying to migrate Steam's vast library of games from their native platforms (mostly Windows) to Linux just seems impractical. If devs really want to care about this, they should try to focus on making their future games compatible with Linux, not try throwing resources into holes with no profit.
my entire steam library. I want to switch 100% to linux but probably never will because my entire steam library won't work and I refuse to lose access to those games. they all run in windows now so there's no point in the hassle and timewaste of a dualboot when I can just stay in windows. If linux supported all my games I'd switch in a second.
I have to use Windows at work, there's no way I'm using it at home as well. Have been running with various linuxes for the better part of a decade. Ignoring the wastage of a weekend trying to get Magicka to work under Wine, there is no game that would ever make me go back to Windows. Stupid AMD drivers!
League of legends
World of tanks
Word of warplanes
COD (last two actually)
I really don't give a damm what my OS is. So long as its operating.
Windows might be a piece of shit. But its a POS i've got to know and already have experience with.
No i don't want to learn thousands of little tricks to make any given game work that day on one of the THOUSANDS of linux builds out there.
If it was actually as easy as install os, install ANY game, play. I might consider switching....
But i doubt it. I've already got windows. And it's already operating. I spend very little time messing with it.
I spend my time playing games. Not playing OS choices and configuration.
The total customization possibility and infinite variability of a linux system is its greatest strength.
And a huge dealbreaking killer weakness when it comes to games.
I use Linux almost all the time at home, I have been playing some online games recently which just play in a browser. But all in all I game a lot less than some years ago. Even my USB2 soundcard (Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6) works in Linux.
After all the dual-booting to play games (and mostly remaining in Windows after playing), last year (10th nov 2011 actually) I managed to play my first hours on a virtual machine. And I'm talking Deus Ex HR at 1920x1080.
I managed to use my i5-2500 (non-K) to virtualize (VT-d) my Radeon 5850 and a USB controller, thus having native GPU and input (audio took half a year of trial and error, and now my Hercules Fortission IV is working flawless). I've scored all my 80 hours of Skyrim, around 40 of DXHR and already 35 hours of Dishonored. Also a log of iRacing (which just released a 64-bit binary).
The downsides:
- obviously Windows is still present
- extra step to start VM (but I've got SSD....so not that bad)
- extra HW (IGP and GPU, 2 sound cards, 2 NICs)
- !!! hard to make it work
I'm looking now to upgrade to 7950 and 2 additional monitors for eyefinity.
I know I'm a little off-topic, but I just wanted to say I found a workaround.
The list? Call of Duty, I guess I could live with out it. There will be the source games before too long. Battlefield 3, My clan mate's play that and I would miss playing with them. ArmA 2 + Dayz, I would have a great deal of trouble missing them. So I keep Windows around just for Dayz...
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Works great on macs. VMWare has gotten good enough to play Skyrim on a 3-year old mac config in a VM.
Video driver support from the manufacturers should come first.
I'm running Ubuntu with Gnome, since I hate Unity. I've been trying to install the ATI drivers for my Radeon card, but it's a horrible mess. I can't get it to work and I'm a Unix sysadmin with kernel development experience so I'm not a newbie. I could probably spend a few weeks time working on it, getting to know the exact in and outs of video driver configuration under X, but honestly I don't want to. I've got other things that I'd rather spend my time on.
When video driver support becomes as easy and as solid as under Windows 7, then a huge hurdle would fall for Linux as a gaming platform.
AoE :P
I use Linux on my primary desktop since 1994.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
WTF did you just ask me?
Guess I'm not the target for the question but I use to be an avid gamer, sometimes 30-50+ hours a week only so many years ago. Even today, when I pickup a game, I just have to play it through like a long movie with ramen snacks during downtime.
With that said, I've been primarily working from my laptop which is running linux, and I just don't play games anymore b/c it's inconvenient. I dont want to dual boot, I've messed with wine for over 10 years, and the only game I'm actually active in right now is EVE Online. I run the client in VMWare Workstation 8 on an intel video card of my laptop.
Id like to see steam for linux b/c then I'd have a no nonsense way to see what's available for my platform and who knows, maybe I'd be playing again. If there's some crazy insane awesome sauce windows game that causes me to divorce my wife and disown my kids, I have an old desktop in the corner collecting dust I can play it on.
Everyone knows content is king. Many of us use Windows or OSX at home instead of Linux because the games we love just are not available on Linux
You got the wrong way round, I think - lack of games isn't keeping gamers off Linux, it is keeping Linux users away from playing the popular games, which isn't quite the same thing. If your interest is playing games, by all means buy Windows/Mac/PS3 or whatever.
As you say, content is king; Linux has the kind of content that matters to Linux users: perfect facilities for a server, or for software development. It's a tool, not a toy.
Is Linux going to take over the desktop this year? Who cares - I think it will, eventually. Just think back: 5 years ago I was the only one using OpenOffice, that I knew; but now there are signs that it will be MS Office that tries to catch up in future: the newest versions of MS Office has reluctantly become able handle open document format. We are winning, slowly.
Borderlands 2
Starcraft 2
Diablo 3
steam +
Natural selection 2
Team fortress 2
Civilisation 4 and 5
Firefall
Minecraft
1. World of Tanks
2. Borderlands 2 (at least by the time my mates get a copy too)
3. Guild Wars 2
4. Orcs Must Die 2
5. Civilization 5
That's what's keeping my Windows gaming laptop a Windows gaming laptop at the moment.
It's not just the games themselfes. If you want to use some special teamspeak software or stuff like GameRanger, editors and all the stuff around the games, it really hurts. I tried to play Age of Empires 2 with a friend using GameRanger. While the game works fine, installing GameRanger under wine (or even the native Linux version of it) failed due to AdobeFlash. That left me frustrated and wishing for Windows for more than a day.
I don't play much games anymore since I have dropped out of the hardware upgrade race since I got a laptop. My 3yr old Macbook Pro runs all programs just fine even virtualization when I need to practice things. But games are of course not doable, except from my old favorite, Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, that I play a couple of times each year.
I run OSX, not because I can play games. I run OSX because shit works and when it doesn't, rarely does it require me to go edit a config file or run a command line. None of these things are 'hard' for me, I'm a developer, I generally live by the command line. I don't however want to spend my time dicking with the OS to get multiple monitors to work in the way I want. I don't want to deal with half finished apps that care more about having every option than accomplishing a task. I want my music and videos to play in the background without hunting shit down to make it work right ... almost right anyway, always not actually correct.
Linux is trying too hard to be everything. My OS doesn't try to do that. It doesn't get in my way (well, most of the time). It doesn't' shove RMS's philosophy down my throat by actively going against anyone who doesn't go it 'their way' such dealing with binary only drivers. It doesn't have every one of its users screaming 'its going to be the year of the OSX desktop!' because people don't care about ruling the world, they care about getting shit done.
My OS is polished, does what I need and otherwise stays the hell out of my way. It serves a purpose that I need, to give me a common way to run all apps with common user interface conventions.
In short, I don't run Linux not because of Games, I play those in VMware or boot to Windows to get proper performance for that.
I don't run Linux because of philosophy. I have no problem with the Linux philosophy in general, but I just don't give a shit about promoting it. If you want to run Linux you almost have to convince yourself that all your pains you take dealing with an unpolished collection of 900 ways to skin a cat and 1200 new wheel designs is the right way to do it because its part of the philosophy.
I have shit to do, I don't have time for the philosophy.
10 years ago, I ran a FreeBSD desktop and was pretty much a promoter of the philosophy. 10 years ago I had more time than money. Now I have more important things to do than care about hardline GPL promotion zealots and their artificial restrictions.
GPL does not dominate my life. It does if you run a Linux desktop. I just don't care about running Linux and there is no compelling reason for me to care. I make money writing software. GPL pretty much is the opposite of what I care about.
Persistent Volume manager for Kubernetes - https://github.com/dwimsey/openshift-pvmanager
Starcraft II, Diablo III, Aion, GW2
Since I'm on Linux I play Heroes of Newerth because it has a Linux version, instead of League of Legends or Dota 2. It's good fun and it works brilliantly with the open source ATI drivers. I would also play some Minecraft, but I can't really get into it...
Like many others, I dual boot into Linux for work and Windows for gaming. Linux has automated backup and is optimized for my workflow, Windows is just as it were when I got it with 100 additional icons on the desktop and no backups. The only other reason I'd need windows besides playing games is for correcting papers in Word when a journal insists on .doc submissions and for some mysterious reasons formulas from OpenOffice never show up correctly in Microsoft's product.
I have around 100 games, mostly on Steam, but only play 2-3 titles from time to time, among them also X-Plane which already works on Linux. There is only one reason why I'd switch to Linux from Windows for playing games: speed. I'd switch to any platform for a substantial framerate gain with the same hardware. Other than that I see no reason to switch. Having to reboot also has the advantage of not allowing me to play when I should work.
My long term goal is to not play any games any longer at all, because (a) they suck more and more (or I've outgrown them?) and (b) there are so many better things to waste your time with, e.g. ad hoc programming for fun which is very similar to gaming anyway.
I guess both titles will need some decent HW vendor support first (FFB for my logitech G25 wheel and drivers for the HOTAS Cougar Stick).
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Vanilla NetHack hasn't had a release since 2003 but there have been several forks of it, one I did myself (look at my sig).
Considering the "far better roguelikes" that's something just asking for a flame war but I guess he thinks about ToME4 or Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.
ToME4's root go back a long time, originally an Angband variant but the 4th version separated completely from that heritage and created vast amounts of original content that makes Skyrim look like a coffee-break activity.
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup is sort of an Anti-NetHack, trying to avoid many of the design mistake NetHack had. Like the needs for spoilers, that different races play the same in the long run, grinding, or that the game doesn't stay challenging after a certain point.
DCSS and ToME4 are big games but in the last years there has been a trend to develop smaller roguelikes. Like DoomRL which is exactly what its title says or roguelikes for mobile devices like 100Rogues and POWDER.
UnNetHack: NetHack Improved!
Mostly MMO's which require anti-hacking software which isn't compatible with Linux/Wine due to the nature of how it it works.
Let's see:
1. Nexon's games, Mabinogi - Which is already notorious for crashing on windows, and doesn't run on Linux, yet it's pretty clear that the game could easily be ported, Vindictus (source engine), and Maplestory primarily. Hackshield keeps it from running on Linux. All these games have some dependency on MSIE as well.
2. Just about anything by Telltale games, all their games are Windows, though some have seen releases on consoles.
3. Everything by Valve (source engine), if they can do a Mac Port, they can do a Linux port.
4. Sims/sims2/sims3/simcity4000/Spore/etc, anything by Maxis
5. Tera
I don't play WoW, LoL or CoC , but these are games I see frequently mentioned by players in my social circles.
Minesweeper. Also, the game.
This is the only game I'm playing at the moment. It rocks, but it's sadly Windows only.
I play WoT.
I also go out of my way to play it only on Windows.
Mainly so I can keep Work and Play separate...
In about 10 hours, Planetside 2 will be released, and cause quite a stir in the industry. Being a DX11 based engine, windows is the ideal platform to play it on.
Before people move to Linux they have to have a reason to move from Windows. So long as Windows continues to play all the games they want, why would they move? These guys are not tech geeks like 90% of us here, they just want something that launches web browsing or the latest games. Unfortunately for Linux, even if it has the latest games on release it will still only be doing what windows already does and will provide no reason for gamers to move.
No.
And, more to the point:
SuperTux. Seriously. I can't use a system that has this stupid game.
Upward mobility is a slippery slope - the higher you climb the more you show your ass.
This game has two expansions to go. and it will be a game that i intend of enjoying for several years.
i don't play many games on linux (except the original starcraft-broodwar under wine) but i don't play many games in windows either
a lot of games are coming out that are better on things like PS3, xbox360, wii, and the smartphones (android and ios)
i received angry birds rio as a present, except that it was a windows version... it sucks bad compared to the touch interface on my galaxy s2.
otoh... if i had 3 46" LED panels and a water cooled awesomeness eyefinity graphics card setup with the widescreen fixer program... that would make for a fucking awesome windows gaming experience! unfortunately i have a life, so...
Dota 2
I'm lucky in that I've been primarily into console games (traditionally a Nintendo/Sega fan), and there are very few PC games I give a damn about. As for Windows-exclusives, well... the Flight Simulator series, maybe Monster Truck Madness 2... and, uh, I seriously can't think of anything I can't get elsewhere that I absolutely must have. Luckily for the majority of PC games I do care about (and that majority is itself quite small), DOSBox has me covered. And I don't need Windows just to be able to run it.
'nuff said
What's keeping me from using Linux? Linux. I have simply no desire to use it over what I use right now. Switching to Linux would at best let me do the exact same things that I'm doing already, so for my investment of time I would get nothing in return. So I do not have any intentions of switching to Linux any time soon.
No text.
Microsoft Office or a high end open source pres. program.
Open office and other just don't cut it in comparison.
Anyone know how this can be run on a modern OS? I haven't played it since Win98 but would love to give it another shot. And as I need to replace my PC soon an answer to this question would help me decide whether to finally make the jump from Win* to Lin*!
My game of choice at the moment is Battlefield 3. The availability of that game isn't the only thing preventing me from converting to Linux for gaming. What about the next game I want to play, and the one after that? Are they also going to be released for Linux at the same time they're released for Windows?
Further, there's better support for the hardware I'm using when I play:
- Thrustmaster HOTAS joystick and throttle for flying in the game (including drivers to remap the buttons, toggles, etc)
- nVidia GTX680 with 3 LCD panels attached, running nVidia's surround video
- Sound Blaster from Creative, which includes utilities for controlling which output the card sends sound through, etc.
When I'm gaming, I just want the rig to work. I don't foresee that happening with Linux any time soon.
Jason Van Patten
ALL OF THEM
Hopefully without provoking the usual anti-SOE trollfest, I would be thrilled to see EQ2 run natively on a Linux box, without the necessity of VM lag/overhead.
Not because I love Sony. I just love EQ2.
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
...of course.
Linux would be big except for [insert random word] FUD ...
AccountKiller
For me it's not that my games 'don't run' in Linux, it's that they run poorly or inconsistently. With WINE I can get 90% of the games I want to play to run, but when they do they tend to either have sound issues or wildly fluctuating framerates (I'm looking at you D3). Couple this with the fact that getting games to run is usually much more complex than it is in Windows and I just throw up my hands and go back to Win 7 installation. Thankfully I dual boot so this isn't as big of a hassle for me as it is for others, but I'd love to just have one Linux installation on my computer and be done with it.
I used to always say that there was no way Linux would ever become a serious gaming platform, but if Win 8 is the future of Microsoft then maybe it has a chance.
Despite LO's best efforts, interaction with MS Word is just to hazardous when it comes to things of this financial magnitude.
every single game I own on steam, wow, gw2 and any other game I may purchase. I want them to be able to install and run as seamlessly as on windows. If it weren't for video games I would have made the switch to linux long ago.
Or Windows, or backgammon, or orienteering, or talking. The actual 'free time' humans have to develop and sharpen skills is diminishing with the deepening economic crisis, as the timespan in which one must work to survive is increasing. The endless cycle of distraction provided by on and offline gaming short-circuits the human tendency towards crushing boredom -- the kind of boredom that gets people out into the world to face problems, gather (in person) to discuss those problems, and solve them.
Anyone can install an operating system, load disc and click Next a dozen times then Finish... but to use an operating system is to understand its principles, adapt it optimally to the hardware, choose a set of packages geared to your general purpose and explore its commands and utilities, explore the landscape. While ding this one is engaged in inner-directed activity that has no set goal -- save to enrich the mind and 'prepare' for what comes next.
What comes next? A video game perhaps. But when you have explored the various toolsets like perl and php there are other alluring places your mind can easily drift into -- CONSTRUCTIVE (arrogant emphasis mine) realms where the fiddling with MySQL and Apache on the box might lead (amazingly, easily) to deployed applications in the cloud. Or a sense of 'can-do' ism that pervades every aspect of life.
I have long desired to assemble a real workshop with routers and lathes and such tools that one can look at almost anything and say, "I could build that." But it has remained just out of reach because acquisition of these things requires time, space, money and opportunity.
But in the digital realm our civilization has reached its pinnacle with Linux! Here in a well organized group of free packages is the Ultimate Workshop. Grab and grok Linux and you have at your fingertips every basic algorithmic and organizational tool yet imagined. Delve into data structures more easily than Knuth could back in the 70s, manipulate photos and videos with as much capability as million dollar dedicated workstations of the 80s, build and deploy net based applications at the eBay level of complexity. The assembly tools and building blocks are all there.
The modern open source workshop IS the dream workshop. All the tools are there. It is ready for you to acquire. All you need to do is reach out and grasp it. And add your own PRECIOUS TIME.
Which is why when I see so much of the modern Internet devoted to these social enclaves of gaming, to me it is as if a significant part of the population has developed a fixation with throwaway plastic knives. They come in different shapes and colors, they don't last very long, they don't even cut your food properly -- and unlike the little yarn about manual dexterity -- a fixation on gaming seems more to impair survival rather than assure it. The Grand Linux Workshop remains on the FTP site unyearned-for while the gamers collect and trade shiny plastic knives. And forks and spoons.
And that is why as you sample the fantastic moveable feast that is the Internet, you spend so much time spitting out the broken tines of plastic forks.
<blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>
steam games have been the ones, that and WoW when I still played. But mainly CS, MW2 for a bit, CS:S, and more recently TF2. I prefer to play them competitively enough that not having things like drivers or getting fps as high as windows make a switch not worth it on my main desktop. I run linux on every other PC. However there might be some other issues, mainly video/image editing, not sure if that works in wine or not.
When valve was saying they were getting 30% fps boosts in linux I was salivating and I'll definitely switch when linux steam is out of beta.
aka BroodWar.
1. Wargame European Escalation
2. Mark of the Ninja
3. Torchlight II
4. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
Those are the games what keeps Windows on dualboot. Mark of the Ninja is a game what is short and casually played but it is fun. Rest of three are what I play every week in Co-Op.
But if I would take Linux for gaming, I would say it needs games like:
1. Mark of the Ninja
2. LIMBO
3. Deadlight
4. Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet
5. The walking dead
6. Trapped Dead
7. Trine 1&2 (already ported for Linux)
No, they are not the latest FPS shooters (Crysis, CoD, Halo and so on) what makes gaming good. But the community and smaller good story games. HL3 being exclusive for Linux can change that community can create more great mods and games using next generation source engine and it is the awesome part.
...a truly good Flight Simulator. Yeah, there are ones that let you fly around, but I'm talking ones that are truly usable for realistic flight missions (like the old MS Flight Sim and X-Plane are). Gotta have all the real world data and approaches. Get me one like that on Linux and I can start dumping Windows machines at home.
...none of them. I keep a Windows box for playing games on and Linux box for everything else.
YOUR "CODE" lacked error trapping here -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42016197 (if you call using prebuilt functions coding, that is - more like a kid using legos, lol!)...
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Additionally - Didn't YOU say THIS also, in regards to coding:
"...cos we all try to write code that "looks cool" and you know, writing code that functions and easy to debug is all of secondary importance" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday November 18, @02:55AM (#42017605)
FROM -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42017605
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QUESTION - Where's YOUR code that functions AND is easy to debug?
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It isn't - LMAO:
* You write code like a NOOB does, completely omitting error trapping... and the proof's right in that 1st link above!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly/Again - Funny my code ran 5x perfectly here too, eh?
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http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42016015
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42014957
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42014957
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42015649
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(As well as 100's of times the past 1.5-2 yrs. now using it vs. trolls like yourself... perfect, every single time!)
* Care to EXPLAIN those PERFECT OUTPUTS, (lol) 'CruTcHy'?
So much for this "tidbit" from you, eh (lol) 'CruTcHy':
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"i have never been talking about the code that you actually run in your python interpreter" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday November 18, @04:02AM (#42017797)
Man - First of all - You can't even write ENGLISH properly - sentences begin with capital letters!
Perhaps it's MY FAULT here, lol (not)... How on EARTH could I expect you to write maintainable code WITH error trapping?
Clue/New NEWS/Newsflash : That's the code of MINE'S providing WHAT YOU NEED shown in the links above (& for others like you, as trolls, probably you posting again as ac)... rotflmao!
What's THAT kids? Oh, yes - that's right: You GUESSED IT - A dose of "ReVeRsE-PsyChoLoGy"... lmao!
... apk
What's wrong with HTML?
You mean other than the fact that widely used user agents tend to undersupport CSS paged media? Or that the differences between IE and everything else at rendering HTML are at least as big as the differences between Word and everything else at rendering Word files?
All of them?
I don't play games enough to justify using a subpar operating system as my main working tool.
I really don't understand why it matters to others.
No worries about drivers, Windows breakdowns, etc.
Instead, you have to worry about system updates that disable all your homebrew.
If you get a nice new controller, just plug it in, and it will work.
Nice new controllers just work on Windows and Linux as well. Since Windows XP Service Pack 1, Windows has come with class drivers for both standard USB HID gamepads and Xbox 360 controllers. And a few weeks ago, I tried all my USB gamepads on an Xubuntu machine; they worked.
More likely that you can do multi-player.
I've been told World of Warcraft is massively multiplayer. CronoCloud keeps telling me that single-screen multiplayer is overrated, that the advantage of multiplayer games with a separate machine per player is that you can play online at any time with a pick-up group of strangers instead of having to arrange schedules for all your real-life friends to come visit you. That and publisher greed are why PS3 and Xbox 360 games have become more likely to require a separate console per player. But there are still several PC games that support single-screen multiplayer.
Play in the living room and connect to the TV
PCs output VGA and/or HDMI video. TVs made since about 2007 can display both, and even older TVs can display PC video through a $30 VGA-to-composite scan converter. I don't see anything stopping people from putting a media PC next to an HDTV.
If you were a gamer, and you found an indie PC game that had a mode for multiple Xbox 360 controllers connected to a home theater PC, would you try it?
Civ 4 & 5
Half Life 3 (Valve can't count to 3 so ohwell)
Space Pirates And Zombies
Don't Starve
Faster Than Light
Star Ruler
Endless Space
Torchlight II
Guild Wars 2
I'm sure I'm listing some games with Linux ports, but like everyone above me I just use win7 and call it a day. I am so sick and tired of bashing things in to working order that it's no longer worth the effort. I'm a sysadmin for a living, the last thing I want to do when I'm off work is to be a sysadmin for fun.
I used to be a pretty avid PC gamer but as a father of six I tend to fill a support role in our household, which doesn't leave a lot of time for gaming. However, I live vicariously though my six, nine and eleven year old daughters who like PC games (especially Minecraft - I set up a LAN server for them), but they also spend a significant amount of time watching YouTube, playing Flash games on websites, and watching Netflix. We have a PS3 slim that gets a significant amount of use by my three year old daughter (Little Big Planet 2, predominantly), and a Nintendo Wii that's been mostly neglected (haha Nintendo). We also have a PS2 slim, and four vintage arcade cabinets (of the four, Soul Calibur III gets the most use).
The desktop computers are also primarily needed for school, and because three of our children need them for schoolwork each day, if one of them is down it causes a problem. When the desktop running Windows 7 (for game support) was compromised by a drive-by trojan, presumably from one of the flash game sights that are rather heavy on the advertising, I spent four days trying to repair it before throwing in the towel (bear in mind I've worked over a decade in the PC repair industry, and my malware removal/repair skills are not insignificant - this was an unrepairable mess).
Each computer in our house (except my wife's Windows 7 laptop) is now running Debian stable. I wouldn't wish this solution on someone else due to the amount of time getting everything set up, but for us it works. I've also found that once I have a LINUX system established, it tends to remain stable (with the exception of when my three year old somehow enabled all of the Accessibility options on one of them simultaneously - that was fun to undo). Each desktop has Minecraft installed. The girls would like Windows games, but the amount of effort involved in getting one running via Wine (or Crossover, or even PlayOnLinux) typically far exceeds the amount of free time I currently have available. Whenever they complain I point out the PS3, the PS2, the Wii, the arcade machines, and that pretty much ends that dialogue. Yes, first world problems.
I Didn't have too much of an issue with games (Im old, and the games i play are like 10 years old), trouble i had which eventually led me back to windows was Xfire client, and Ventrillo, they just didn't run well though wine :/
To answer the question directly, right now, for me, it's Borderlands 2.
Companies should focus Linux game development on tried-and-true esports titles, such as Counter-Strike (Source/Global Offensive), Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, League of Legends, Heroes of Newerth, StarCraft 2, DotA 2, Call of Duty, etc. Fortunately, some of those are Valve titles already headed to Linux. Heroes of Newerth has a Linux version that works pretty well, and will certainly only get better.
What's it going to take to convince Activision Blizzard to port its big games to Linux?
Moreover, what's it going to take to get developers of Mac games to port to Linux, because they're apparently pretty easy to port to Linux once on OS X.
Colin Dean Go a year without DRM
Sim Kity
Kivilization
Kommand and Konquer
PaKman
KPong
SoniK the HedgehoK
The Kims 3
The list goes on and on and on.
Can someone please let the KDE people know?
starcraft broodwar
[citation needed], I call total and complete BS. My system is about one or two tiers below prime and it still hitches slightly but noticeably with really water intensive scenes.
A VM wouldn't be able to run Skyrim at playable frames outside of dungeons regardless of the hardware.
None, but I'd buy a Netflix subscripting if desktop Linux/XBMC were supported.
My home is full of Linux systems. There is only 1 laptop that has Windows. I will not purchase software that does not support native Linux anymore. There are 3 XBMC/Linux machines connected to the TVs. None of the TVs are "smart" or networked, so there's no possible way to have Netflix on them directly. XMBC is the only input currently.
I will not purchase a BluRay player until the DRM is freely and trivially broken on Linux, like DVD DRM is today. That is driving my kids crazy, but is is also teaching them a valuable lesson about DRM. The kids have bought some DRM games and movies only to discover they cannot play them here. That taught a better lesson than I ever could have explained.
Open data formats are important.
I don't really game, so while I do own about 20 games, they are all from older generations of x86. C&C, X-Wing, Sentinal Wars, Starflight, Real-War ... I tried to get them working under Windows7 after an ice storm a few years ago and couldn't. I think WINE support under Linux will be easier.
My newer games are for the PS2. I made a conscious decision to not purchase a PS3 due to DRM of BluRay. I used to be weaker and dumber.
My friends have Xbox and Wiis. Gaming is a social thing these days - it is easier to have a gaming night over at there than purchase everything necessary to have here. Bringing a 12-pack of beer is a nice trade.
All of them. In particular WoW and Diablo X, but really all of them. Yes, I've run WoW under Cedega, yes I've run Diablo on VMs, yes one can run them under Wine, but I want true native code, not emulated, simulated, virtualized. I'm looking forward to maybe -- just maybe -- seeing this happen over the next 3 years. Games with actual accelerated high density graphics, compiled for and running on Linux. What a concept.
rgb
Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. --- Bertrand Russell.
The last time I installed Windows over an open source operating system for my own purposes was to play the first version of Quake.
If I had a time machine, I would go back and tap myself on the shoulder. Look dude, Quake rocks, but the skills you could be learning in Linux or BSD will serve you forever. I also quite liked Age of Empires at the time.
Dual booting wasn't a viable option. Around that time I think I paid $600 for a 6GB SCSI disk drive, thinking it would pay for itself in time saved in my software development work. Maybe it did, but I suspect it didn't.
The other problem is that you could install Windows on some cheap ass disk drive, but the installation process was long and tedious, and you had to ask what value you placed on your immortal soul sitting there feeding borg cookies into the 3 1/2" borg infection port.
I seemed to recall NT never told you about the mistake in your LUN assignment until digesting _all_ the borg cookies. More cookies, please!
But even then I had a deal with myself that I would multitask cleaning the bathroom with every large Microsoft application installed (or re-installed). Dev Studio kept my pipes clean. DLL hell polished my chrome.
I'm older and wiser now. I can clean the bathroom just because it needs to be done.
Is there any other games?
I would say that Linux is seems like the computer man's OS. Not the layman's so there is this certain....lack of accessibility and understanding concerning linux seeing that MS and Apple based products are used EVERYWHERE from business to research to personal entertainment. Games would be an "apparent" reason but it is more that it isn't as marketed or advertised compared to its rivals. I used to use Ubuntu 10.0 on an older machine but when i got a new computer, I used Windows 7 as that it and its software are widely used everywhere so my problem is more of a lack of proper knowledge and skills....and laziness to be proficient.
Ha Ha! Only serious.
I tried several of the Linux native iPod managers and none of them could be made to operate in a way I liked. Somewhat ironically, I normally only run two programs on my desktop at home. Chrome and iTunes. If Apple can get their Podcast app to work properly, I might just cut the cord completely and move my Chrome activities not to Linux, but to a tablet.
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I dislike the whole concept of Steam and other schemes to required persistent online connections in order to play single player games. I have friends who currently have many hundreds of dollars in Steam games and Steam can lock them out of their account at any time for many different reasons. They are in effect holding all that money and games hostage. If at any time you disagree with something they have done (such as their new policy against class actions) they lock you out and you lose several hundred dollars of entertainment that you have purchased in good faith.
I don't play a single game, I play them all. Bring the entire hundreds of titles who get released per year. Don't stop at 2-3 FPS and MMOs.
A number of libraries I have are in NKS format, NI's container format and are encrypted so that only Kontakt can open them. EastWest's stuff all works only with their own Play software, it is a proprietary format. Neither are Windows only, they are Windows and Mac, but they are not Linux.
This is the reality of high end samples. Many companies do not distribute them in open formats because of piracy concerns (legit or not). You find that most of the really good stuff is locked down like this.
Also, you can argue if it was a good decision or not, but the money is already spent. I have thousands of dollars of samples. I'm not interested in rebuying them, even if I could find something of similar quality in an open format (so far, no luck there, I do sniff around for samples all the time).
It's actually all of the games since I pretty much gave up on wine years ago because of the aditional hastle to run the games. But the reason I don't even try anymore is because a friend of mine couldn't run Street Fighter 4 on wine at all 2 years ago.
Windows has updated its sound model several times. The current MS recommended way of doing audio for games would be XAudio 2, same as the Xbox 360.
However, it still supports old school sound APIs, all the way back to MME, which a surprising number of newer programs still use. So you can load up something quite old, and sound works no problem. Same deal with graphics. When a new DirectX comes out, it includes all the old DirectX APIs, bugs and all, inside of it. So if a program makes DX 3 calls, it can make those calls on a system with DX 11.1.
There's something to be said for that. It is nice to be able to run most programs without fuss. There are limits to how far back you can go, and at a certain point an emulator makes more sense, but MS does a pretty good job of keeping old APIs working, while still adding new ones when they want to.
So you'll point me then to the Linux distribution that "works already" with all my hardware? I'll need one that has drivers for the GTX 680 that support OpenGL 4.2, so the binary nVidia drivers, drivers for an Auzentech HomeTheater HD card (CA20K2 chip), MCU Pro drivers, i1Display Pro drivers (and software that can allow it to talk to an NEC 2690), and soon drivers for a MOTU HDX-SDI.
What's that? You don't have one of those? Ok then.
Crowing about Linux systems "already working" is silly because that's only the case with quite standard/low intensity hardware which is the same for Windows. Install Windows on a system with integrated graphics, a UAA spec soundcard, and an Intel NIC and it works out of box. Same with Linux (usually). However when you start getting some higher end hardware, which gamers are wont to do, you need to go fetch drivers. Then things become problematic in Linux often.
CIV V is the only reason I have windows installed.
The main reason I usually use Mac OS X more than Linux is because of fonts. I don't really play computer games anymore. But no matter what type of antialiasing or whatever I install on Linux I can't get the fonts to look as crisp as they do in OS X, which makes a difference when I'm making presentations.
It's gotten to the point where I can get by without Word. The imagine manipulation I have to do is basic so Gimp works fine. But two things hold me back: I still need Excel (in Windows - only thing I use Windows for) and I need beautiful fonts. If someone could point me in the right direction to amend my font troubles on Linux then I'll love you forever.
The funny thing is when I do play games I do it in Linux. There are all sorts of awesome logic/math/puzzle games available on Linux and they're free. I don't play games for eye candy, I play them for mental stimulation. I disapprove of hobbies where the goal is to zombify the individual so they can 'pass the time.' If your time is so invaluable you feel like you need time wasters then just kill yourself already. Seriously. If you spend a large portion of your waking life playing WoW or Call of Duty or watching reality TV then please just die already. You are the living dead.
"From the depths of my skeptical and rationalist soul, I ask the Lord to protect me from California touchie-feeliedom."
I love gaming but i'm not willing to sacrifice the rest of my computer experience for it. I dual boot, Gentoo & Windows 7. It's the best way to make sure you can run anything.
linux *IS* the game. I'd rather be creative than just a consumer of content. But that's me.
I've been playing a lot of SpaceChem recently (got it from the Humble Bundle a while ago) and was surprised to find out it runs much better on Ubuntu than Windows. The Windows version has cleaner sound (bugs in the Ubuntu sound drivers) but the Ubuntu version has a bunch of extra features. The big ones are saving movies of solutions, and the ability to see the action inside factories while zoomed out in the landscape view (Windows offers only waiting markers in the latter case).
For me, it would probably be slightly older games like Oblivion. Ideally anything from Desura's Indie Royal would be nice if they were Linux-friendly. Most of the time, it is Windows only. The Humble Bundle is great for that, but I really only like about a third of them (I prefer RPGs and 2D platformers).
I know Steam is going to eventually move to Linux (might have to get Ubuntu for that... dreading that) and Desura has a client, but I wish they were slightly further along the way also. The Windows side is so better polished than the Linux.
That's all. Once it's there, I'm switching.
Battlefield 3 and Diablo 3 would be on my short list. I already play Lord of the Rings Online (LotRO) on Linux. I will even sometimes run two instances of LotRO simultaneously, which I can also do on Windows, but Linux runs two LotRO clients much more smoothly on Linux than it does on Windows.
Yes, you can play WoW, and a few other games natively on OSX, perhaps more than are available for linux, but I don't think anyone in their right mind is using OSX because of the games available. Most folks I know who use OSX do so except when they want to play games, and are then forced to boot up to windows for that or to keep an inexpensive machine specifically for playing games on.
I would love to drop winders for linux completely and never use it again.
Not a big fan of WINE.
My game that keeps me on Windows is Champions Online.
Any game available on Steam or coming from Blizzard
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It's not just games that keep Linux from being a preferred operating system, it's mostly the various UI's which still feel like something out of the 1990s and of course the lack of drivers for EVERYTHING.
Who cares if the OS is "free", that's not a compelling reason to use it. Windows and OSX are both "now" affordable, are much more user friendly, have the drivers, support controllers, video cards, sound cards, cameras out-of-the-box experience and that's the key to success.
To be honest, with all the news this past year including today's Linux Rootkit iframe injection INCLUDED in the latest Debian squeeze kernel, 2.6.32-5 Linux SOURCE Linux simply can't be trusted for the desktop space.
Well, not really. It's a great and important question, it's just that Slashdot has gone about asking it in a really stupid way.
Rather than having to wade through answers, and all the arguments, to get a good analysis of the answer, this should have been asked in the form of a POLL, though a check-box approach would be even better, and it could be that the Slashdot site's code doesn't support that. If it did, or could be bashed together in 10 seconds by one of the Uebergeeks who works for Slashdot, it might go something like this:
It could have gone something like this:
What's keeping you using Windows XP-8 or OS-X instead of using freely available Linux? (If you only use Android or iOS, please refrain from answering this.)
O What's a Linux? (Or I don't have the time or inclination to learn a new computer system despite the acknowledged benefits. Yes, I'm THAT busy.)
O I NO CAN USE KEYBOARD ONLY MOUSE CLICK ICON
O I'm a student and have to use a particular software package for school and it only runs on Windows (i.e. Solid Works)
O I'm a student trying to learn MS Windows or OS-X system management or programming, etc.
O I game, and [game 1] doesn't run [well | at all] under Linux.
O I game, and [game 2] doesn't run [well | at all] under Linux.
O I game, and [game 3] doesn't run [well | at all] under Linux.
O I game, and [game 4] doesn't run [well | at all] under Linux.
O I game, and [game 5] doesn't run [well | at all] under Linux.
O I game, and [game 6] doesn't run [well | at all] under Linux.
Etc.
This would give a decent gauge of why people who aren't using Linux aren't using Linux, and take less time to wade through than making it a story in Ask Slashdot form.
Speaking only for myself, I got Windows for $10 through my school, and at the time of install I had to have it to use Solid Works. (Hence how I know that's a reason why one might resort to Windows 7.) It was a pain because it was an upgrade edition, so I had to format the drive for use with NTFS manually, manually copy Windows files from the Windows install disc, to trick Windows into believing I already HAD Windows so it would install the upgrade version over a previously blank HDD. Took a little trial and error, but eventually got it up and running. Now that I no longer need Solid Works to Solid Work, I may switch back, but for now, Windows is working, with Avast as my free AV provider, Firefox, LibreOffice, Foxit PDF reader, the GIMP, and Media Player Classic providing me the free-ness I like without having to use bullshit like McAfee Useless Antivirus, Microsoft Internet Destroyer, Microsoft Office 2150 or whatever it's called this week, Adobe Malware Infection Vector, Photoshop, or any one of twenty things I categorically refuse to install to play music and movies, like anything from Microsoft, AOL, RealMedia, Apple, Sony, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam.
I can't read the comments because the page doesn't load fully or something. I don't get the dumbass sliders and I can't see the full header. This site is shit.
I have a lot of PC games... hundreds on my Steam account, at least another 30 on GOG... and those two numbers continue to increase over time.
So, my problem isn't with Linux not supporting one PC game, it's with it not supporting every PC game I have or want/plan to buy.
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All of them? Linux would not be a viable option until it has complete support for Windows games. Not ports, but support for. Not Wine...but true support for (or at least...native-speed support, which WINE has never been in my experience). Never said it would happen, merely that is what it would take to be viable for me.
People have been suggesting using WINE to run games. I have heard stories that Blizzard bans players who use WINE. Any truth to this? I do not want to lose my entire Blizzard game library.
The real tipping point will not come when Linux supports all of the games people want to play today. The tipping point will be when Linux supports all the games people want to play on release day. When I know I can reliably and easily download and play the latest Blizzard or Valve game the day it's released, then Linux will be in a much better position to be a serious contender for gamers.
But the bigger question is why would I want to switch to Linux when I'm content with Windows 7. As far as I know, Windows 7 does everything I need it to do and I'm not left feeling like I'm missing out on any huge features, so...why invest the time and effort to switch to something that arguably is more difficult to use and less compatible if I'm not one of the geeks that has near religious zeal for it?
Sure, it's free, but the Windows tax is what, maybe $150 when you buy a new PC? That's $50/year assuming you'll use that computer for three years, and $50 is WELL worth paying vs investing my personal time to learn a new OS. Sorry, but there needs to be a compelling reason to switch. Just having working games is not a compelling reason, I already have that.
. . .is Linux itself. Endlessly modifiable, you can tweak it, test different desktops, software and configurations. And it doesn't cost a penny!
Who needs Windows?
Outside of MMORPGs like WOW and GW gaming on the PC is out of style. Serious gamers are all about the console and their XBOX 360 these days.
I do play all kinds of games. Most are either browser games, or old enough that you could easily play them in a VM (in fact, some are old enough that you have no choice to play them in a VM or equivalent, i.e. dosbox). For those that aren't, I would be willing to dual-boot on the occasion that I wanted to play one.
No, it's not the games. It's primarily the desktop environments: there are several choices, but they all blow. You have your choice between bloated, overgrown shiny garbage (Gnome or KDE), or intentionally not-bloated, not-shiny choices, that are so intentionally not-bloated that instead they feel crippled in their lack of basic features Windows has had since 95. In either case, they're being designed by a combination of clueless-about-UIs programmers, and useability "experts" that care more about doing something crazy and new than actually giving people what they want. No thanks.
In fact, I'll even go so far as to say this: if anyone were to give me a simple (but not simple to the point of crippled) window manager that basically just acted like XP in all the important ways, complete with a file manager program that worked as well as the one in XP (i.e. not the one post-XP that keeps getting buggier and more annoying), I'd probably try it out. But I haven't seen one yet.
Since most of these are Windows only I'd have to keep a Windows partition if nothing else for these game nights.
Games: Civ III,IV
Galactic Civilizations II, Fallen Enchantress (Pretty please Brad?)
Mechwarrior Online
Skyrim
Star Citizen (forthcoming)
Other Apps:
Office. Seriously. This also keeps me tied to Windows and I hate it. Yes, I know about OpenOffice, but there are certain things that just don't work the way I need them too and I can't spend hours fixing every powerpoint presentation and revision I receive just so that I can use it under OO.
EVE Online is a deal-breaker for me. I don't mind running Linux on a secondary computer, but my primary has to be Windows to play EVE.
I can tell you its not the games that keep me from using Linux. Its all the bullshit that gets in the way using it as a general purpose OS.
I just can't start "using linux", i'm always playing nethack.
gaming on linux would have been much better if they dump ALSA for OSS/v4, a previously commercial suite of OSS drivers which has become open-sourced.
It offers COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT software mixing support in kernel - fast and with no configuration required and no file permission issues, and no compatibility problem due to oss emulation - every developer know such mixing functionality is fucking important but ALSA for years refuse to implement it in the core (the dmix plugin is a damn joke and it's bad with oss emu), and even to this day some morons still recommend people to use sound cards with hardware mixing, which don't exist on market anymore.
The next step is to kill those all poor graphics drivers without acceleration and software-rendering version of OpenGL. They're useless and their existence in distros are just confusing.
Microsoft is still the most supported OS. I've always had drivers for any hardware I could name on Windows. Linux, not so much.
League of Legends (currently the most popular game on the planet) would be a must-have.
On a more general note, what we really need is for game developers to move away from DirectX and over to OpenGL.
Specifically, ChessBase. Which isn't a 'game' or playing engine, but rather a database platform for chess games.
I cannot do without it, and the freely available SCID for Linux won't do it for me (I've tried, and it is very close. But no cigar yet. And no, XBoard doesn't do it for me, either.)
Which is sad, because Convekta/ChessBase GMBH seems to be heading more towards a SASS model.
I could live with Chess Assistant instead of ChessBase, but that isn't available for Linux either. And older versions of CB do not get along with Wine (I've tried.)
Someday, somebody will figure out how to do this with Access and/or OO Base. It seems anybody can and does build chess playing engines, but good chess databases are another matter.
I know it's not a game, but it is entertainment. Sad to say that this one service has kept me from ditching windows in my home for over 4 years now.
Whats keeping me (and my clients) from using Linux is web development, not games. I ended up coding Classic ASP based websites as a career. Yes, I know all of you hate Classic ASP and feel it should be banished, but the reality is that companies have stuff written in it and they won't be throwing out or rewriting their stuff it anytime soon as long as it still works. And as long as I can't legally redistribute LAMP-server-like version of linux with Chili!Soft or Halcyon pre-installed and pre-configured to just work immediately after installation, I just don't see myself or my clients ever making any real progress towards getting away from it. Nevermind the games; we're just suck-in-the-mud here in Windows-world for business reasons.
Creative Suite and Lightroom. Specifically, the A/V side of Adobe CS. I love linux, have used it on the desktop and use it daily on the server as a sysadmin, but there are no competitive alternatives to Premiere/After Effects/Photoshop/Lightroom on the Linux stack. I wish there were, but there is nothing I've been able to find in years of looking that supplies the featureset with any degree of daily usability/stability. In several situations, there is nothing that supplies the features period. So for now this triplebooter will be stuck with OSX or Windows as daily driver, and Linux solely as an experimental/occasional OS on the desktop.
For me its simply choice... an OS that allows me to just install and run any game I want to play. I have to acknowledge that I lay all the blame at Microsoft's feet; they have blocked alternative OSes ruthlessly over the years, but, I still like my games.
I call computer-illiteracy job security
I'd like to see Starcraft II for Linux If there's ever another version of Never Winter Nights, I'd like to see that on Linux. Same for any of the ElderScrolls series of games from Bethesda.
A native installable without need to tweak Ultimate Tournament Series games, and HALO.
UT games reported to be available, but each time I try a post it doesn't work.
The odds of Halo coming to Linux is quite slim.
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No games. I need a suite of content creations tools for photography, video, and game development and a great user experience.
I switched to Mac from Windows for Final Cut Pro and for the simplicity and versatility of the operating system. I don't have to install extras to handle the technical things I understand to a degree, but don't want to bother with.
Other small things: drag and drop can be done with anything; can use 'Spotlight' from anywhere; switching between languages is simple and works seamlessly; Asian (and English) fonts are rendered beautifully; I can scroll background windows; 'Expose' and 'view desktop' on hot corners is much quicker than the Windows taskbar when using a mouse (because it doesn't require precision clicking).
I actually don't mind that the Mac isn't a major gaming platform. I like not having the temptation to play games where I should be working. And if I do play games I like just having one or two good ones, not a whole collection.
Another advantage of having a Mac is that when you take it on a photo shoot, everyone can use the same workstation. The desktop always looks familiar. If I showed up with something else people would need me to operate it, and we only have minutes between shots.
Since Final Cut X I've switched to using Adobe Premiere and After Effects. I would consider Windows, but I just don't like the feel and flow of the OS. Apple used to be supportive of the creative community, but now they're (and Windows) are targeting the larger casual consumer market. Both Windows and Mac are becoming claustrophobic. I doubt I will buy another Apple product.
I'm hoping Linux will become a platform for both technology and art content creators.
I want to switch to Linux, and probably will try to soon. The main programs I need are:
- Scrivener (I think there is a Linux beta version)
- Adobe Premiere
- After Effects
- Lightroom
- Unity 3D
I think the great advantage of having an open source operating system and applications, is that every application could integrated into the operating system, and designed to work with other applications.
In my dreams, what I want is an operating system that is designed to support mass collaboration. Then a set of integrated tools more advanced and integrated than Adobe and Autodesk suites. For example, I could be in a game engine similar to Unity 3D, and invite other people into my work environment. When I want to edit a basic 3D model I would have tools similar to Maya or Blender. Or for more technical designs, an AutoCAD equivalent. If I want to edit a texture, I'd pull up tools equivalent to Photoshop.
On top of this, I want a 3D GUI for working in a virtual environment using data gloves.
Dreaming, yes. But I think my main barrier to using Linux is not having an integrated workflow similar to Adobe Premiere + After Effects. I don't have time to mess around with spending more time trying to get applications to work, rather than getting creative stuff done.
I play FTL and Minecraft, both of which run natively on Linux. I do have a Windows HDD lying around with some shooters on it, but I haven't used it in months. If I ever get a hankering for Windows-only games, I'll just pop that HDD in my SATA dock, then boot back into Linux for everything else.
My wife & I love PC games but prefer safe bank transactions & better web browsing. Dual-booting's a pain, so we just stick with Linux & Linux HumbleBundle games. We own StarCraft2, but don't play it much since I don't want the whole procedure to get there.
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Some of these will undoubtably run on Linux. Until they all do, I'm going to keep booting into Windows because they all run on that OS::
Football Manager 2011
Football Manager 2012
Football Manager 2013
(future Football Manager games)
Empire: Total War
Borderlands
Gratuitous Space Battles
Company of Heroes
Dragon Age: Origins
Mount & Blade: Warband
Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planewalkers (and 2012, and 2013)
UFO: Afterlight
Star Wars: Empire at War
Test Drive Unlimited 2
Frozen Synapse
Portal 2
Total War: Shogun 2
Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War II - Retribution
Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War II - Chaos Rising
Spellforce
DC Universe Online
King Arthur - The Role-playing Wargame
Star Wolves
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II
Supreme Commander 2
Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance
FTL
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War (four variants of)
Air Conflicts: Secret Wars
Alpha Protocol
Amnesia: The Dark Descent
The Binding of Isaac
Crusader Kings II
Dear Esther
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Disciples III: Renaissance
Divinity 2: Developer's Cut
F1 2010
Gratuitous Tank Battles
Half Life 2 (and various episodes)
Heroes of Might and Magic V
Jade Empire
LIMBO
Machinarium
Majesty 2
NWN2
Portal
Psychonaughts
Rocksmith
S.T.A.L.K.E.R (and sequels)
Spellforce
Spellforce 2
Victoria: Revolutions
Victoria II
Wargame: European Escalation
X: Beyond the Frontier
X2: The Threat
X3: Reunion
X3: Terran Conflict
There are also a few games I've installed, played a bit and removed, and at least 7 MMOs that have between them clocked up around 8 months of in-game time.
Hey, nobody said I had a life.
The correct question is: "what games make you keep a windows system around?"
Of the linux group that I know, we all have either dual booted machines or a separate machine for games, but we all use linux as our main system.
To answer the spirit of the original question I keep my machine dual booting right now for the new remake and awesome execution of X-Com!
Most other games I play right now I can have a great time through wine and not bother!
I can probably get 100% of things done in windows, but with 60-75% efficiency. Getting things done isn't always the same as getting them done well.
The game of games!!!
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I'm an old-time PC player but have been using my PS3 console for gaming over the last couple of years.
I am currently playing Skyrim. I started playing on the PS3, but bought the Windows version when it became obvious that the DLCs either will not be coming for the PS3 or will be scaled down. I also bought a XBox controller and a USB receiver so that I could continue to use a gaming controller. I also output the sound and video to my TV/surround system. I was amazed at the better graphics, sound, etc. on the PC. I had forgotten that PC gaming was such a rich experience, in comparison to the consoles.
That being said, even if Skyrim was available for Linux, I would not switch. I also use Microsoft Outlook/Office, Video editing apps (i.e. TMPGenc), Photo Editing apps (Photoshop Elements), etc. which are not available on Linux. As the iPad/iPhone/iCrap users like to say, it's all about the Apps, man, it's all about the apps....
Really the important part for me that would make me truly consider switching my gaming rig over is if I had a strong guarantee that FUTURE games would be available on the Linux platform. The old games I already own? I aleady played those, and there are not many I reload over and over again. Maybe the CIV series and Elder Scrolls. Even with those I can understand "if you want to play old games, use an old platform [windows]" logic. But new stuff. That's the clincher. If all, or a huge majority, of new games will run on Linux/Steam just fine? I'd give it very serious consideration.
I'm not a PC Gamer, and am stuck on windows. I need to use it so that I can be familiar with every bug, every fix, and every funny thing it does in order to support the mass of end users at work. My computer usage is basically one big UAT that never ends.
No single game, but the vast library of titles that I own or want to own. It would take quite a swell of linux ports to get me to consider going there. I buy 1 to 4 games a month, and only very rarely is a game I buy available on linux. It would help my pocketbook to switch, but not my addiction.
The problem, for me, isn't the games that are currently out. In many cases I can make older games run on Linux. The issue is new games. I want to make sure I can play new game X the day it comes out if I so desire.
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This is probably an odd one out, but: Touhou. Yes I know it works in Wine, but it's really wonky. It tends to break between Wine releases and some of them work while others don't.
The only game I ever really care to play that I cannot play on Linux. It makes me sad panda. If I won the lotto, I would pay to have DirectX 11 ported to Linux in full functionality.
To be honest, I've kind of "grown away" from video games (and before anyone gets resentful, no, I don't mean I'm "too grownup for video games", I just have other hobbies that eat all my time these days), but even if I were gaming more often, I have more than enough from TuxGames (especially ones I never finished or are endlessly fascinating to me). I tend to "suck the marrow from games" and get a lot of worth from them.
I am not really your target market. But I'll say this: maintaining Windows (or OSX) for games just isn't worth the hassle, and keeping the hardware up to spec eats too much into my budget. If I were still gaming, I would not buy a game that didn't run under Linux. Full stop.
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My kids love Wizard101 (and Pirate101).
Everyone of the games that I have played recently works just fine under Linux
World of Tanks, Rift war, World of Warcraft, Rune of Magic, Everquest....
The problem I have is Graphics card driver support. (So I run Windows 8 Beta)
I want Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim to work on Linux. (Daggerfall would be nice to, but I'm trying not to be picky) Because once the effort has been made to have those running smoothly, it will probably guarantee every future release will be on linux as well. The first time I built my own computer it was solely to play Oblivion. Upgraded it a year later just to play Fallout 3. Built an entirely new PC when Skyrim came around. If you have the elder scrolls series you really don't need any other games. You can basically play each game until the next one comes out and never run out of things to do :)
I would LOVE to run Linux on my computer, but I can only do that if it runs Adobe Creative Suite. Which it does not, c'mon guys!
Yes, and World of Warcraft is the main reason I don't switch, but there are other games I would want to play as well.
Which games keep me from using Linux? All of them, even the ones that have native Linux builds. I used to play UT2003-4 a lot and I remember the visual quality and performance just could not match that of the exact same game on my Windows XP partition using the dates DirectX.
And heaven forbid I accidentally a package update and durr OpenGL broke until nVidia updated the video driver.
What kinda graphics card are you running? Which distro of Linux?
You win points for father of the year there! Good man with all the Debian and gaming around. :D
Thanks to DOSBOX, now I have my dear Master of Orion.
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I think this one is tributed to me for an earlier post.
Any games (mostly online games, in my case, Dragon Ball Online) that use GameGuard, a hacking/cheating prevention system.
Due to its rootkit nature, it doesn't work under WINE.
IMHO it is not preventing any hacking or cheating, since people are still able to get around and cheat all they want.
It only prevents people who really want to play the game from playing it.
For me I have to keep one windows box for this one game and the annoyance level is over 9000!
All of them? I don't care about linux if there's even the slight chance that I'll be looking at some game and going "aww it's not available for me". I don't see any problems with Windows, so it's just fine.
The above is what makes Steam the killer app it is. Right-click, install, play.
Yup, seriously. I still play on the Half-Life 1 engine (Natural Selection 1 and Team Fortress Classic) and I still love Dawn of War 1.
If these ran natively on Linux, I would be using Linux constantly. Yes, I know Wine can generally run both games, but I've tried it and there are some glitches and other annoyances that were not present when playing on Windows (i.e., Alt+Tab, sound problems, and added CPU latency).
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Definetely SC2! It is theoretically possible to run it via Wine.. although.. it is a waste of time. Dual booting to windows for the only reason - Starcraft
Games are for children.
Starcraft 2 and Natural Selection 2. I dual boot Windows and Linux and am pretty happy with that honestly. Linux for real work, Windows for fun and games.
FPS such as Battlefield 3 (which I play daily). I dual-boot Win to game and Linux for the rest of the day...
What!?! Tron isn't popular anymore?
YOUR "CODE" lacked error trapping here -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42016197 (if you call using prebuilt functions coding, that is - more like a kid using legos, lol!)...
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Additionally - Didn't YOU say THIS also, in regards to coding:
"...cos we all try to write code that "looks cool" and you know, writing code that functions and easy to debug is all of secondary importance" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday November 18, @02:55AM (#42017605)
FROM -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42017605
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QUESTION - Where's YOUR code that functions AND is easy to debug?
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It isn't - LMAO:
* You write code like a NOOB does, completely omitting error trapping... and the proof's right in that 1st link above!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly/Again - Funny my code ran 5x perfectly here too, eh?
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http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42014943
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42016015
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42014957
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42014957
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42015649
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(As well as 100's of times the past 1.5-2 yrs. now using it vs. trolls like yourself... perfect, every single time!)
* Care to EXPLAIN those PERFECT OUTPUTS, (lol) 'CruTcHy'?
So much for this "tidbit" from you, eh (lol) 'CruTcHy':
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"i have never been talking about the code that you actually run in your python interpreter" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday November 18, @04:02AM (#42017797)
Man - First of all - You can't even write ENGLISH properly - sentences begin with capital letters!
Perhaps it's MY FAULT here, lol (not)... How on EARTH could I expect you to write maintainable code WITH error trapping?
Clue/New NEWS/NewsFlash: That's the code of MINE'S providing WHAT YOU NEED shown in the links above (& for others like you, as trolls, probably you posting again as ac)... rotflmao!
What's THAT kids? Oh, yes - that's right: You GUESSED IT - A dose of "ReVeRsE-PsyChoLoGy"... lmao!
... apk
Baldurs gate enhanced, elite dangerous, machine for pigs & project eternity. If these games would be available, linux here I come
Why on earth would you be using pixel-perfect layout and CSS in important content-centric shared-editing documents?
Because we are collaborating on a document that will eventually be printed.
At the moment the only game I play is League of Legends. My main PC will have to run Windows because I don't really care for the FPS drop I get when running LoL in wine and the fear of breakage on patch days.
In regards to the rest of my computers scattered throughout the house, since the recent release of the Netflix PPA that runs firefox and silverlight in wine, I've been able to convert my wife's laptop and my media PC to Ubuntu 12.04
Can't believe anyone did not mention StarCraft. A game that will last at least a decade. Isn't that a good investment?
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Windows is my favorite game.
ASDF
I'll actually answer the question instead of shooting off on a tangent about how pulseaudio sucks...
* Borderlands (1 & 2)
* Crysis
* Deus Ex
* Valve titles (Portal, HL, etc -- but those are coming)
* Serious Sam (well, 1.1 and 1.2; the rest were a bit of a waste; haven't played 3 yet -- when my harsh mistress Borderlands2 gives me time...)
* Painkiller (series)
* Torchlight 2 (apparently it wines, but I'm quite sick of wine and its artifacts, no reflection on the wine devs -- I think their efforts rock, just that many games take a serious penalty in the arena of performance and quirkiness)
There are plenty of games that I can play across both though, like Trine (1&2) and Torchlight and, of course, the great stuff from the Humble Bundles (of which I have them all!).
The sad truth though is that win8 actually runs smoother on the same hardware for regular use than my Linux Mint (KDE). Please don't suggest a different DE -- I've tried basically everything and they're either strange to use (though I should try Unity again -- I gave up on it because of the introduction of other artifacts which broke other GTK apps) or just plain fugly. I've even recently considered moving my daily operations to win8... It's a huge step up from the 2 decades of crap to fall out of the ass of Redmond in the past.
DOTA, Counter-Strike atleast ... these games should run smoothly in Linux. Games like these run in Linux can also increase my system's shelf life. I really hope someday that atleast mhttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/20/0048228/ask-slashdot-what-video-games-keep-you-from-using-linux#ost popular apps and games run on Linux.
http://xkcd.com/619/
Fable: TLC (which is I think is the best thing MS have ever done) and The Witcher. Morrowind is no longer a problem since we have OpenMW :-) I am also a big fan of Titan Quest.
Check out my virtual machine: http://viuavm.org/
Say no more... it rocks !
Crysis, 1 & 2, and futures.... COD, entire series Ghost Recon, and series Far Cry 1/2/3 Battlefield just for starters. If these had LINUX version with support for SLI/Crossfire configurations as well, it would be a no-brainer to buy and build such a machine.
I've been playing Runescape because it has a Java client. Since Java is nice and cross platform, it just works on Linux. I'm also working on my own MMORPG with a Java client that is technically an alpha but I call it pre-alpha cause so many of the client/features are bugged or missing. Still, the Java client is a huge improvement over trying to program a client in x11 for the game I'm working on. I used to play a lot of windows only games, but when windows xp came out I decided I would not upgrade(downgrade) or get any games that needed later versions of windows. After win 98 became obsolete, and my old dual-boot computer died(hardware) I gave up windows only games.
Like a lot of intellectually curious programmers, I have Windows, Linux, Mac, and a number of microcontroller development environments at home. There are no video games that keep me from using Linux and no server applications that keep me from using Windows or Macs. DRM, more than anything, is what keeps me from buying and using software of any kind.
For me it is my game that I am developing and tried to compile under a virtual box Ubuntu. .
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All my gaming is done under emulators now. Snes9x, MAME and DOSBox already work perfectly under Linux.
They're there in their room. You're on your own.
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Diablo 2. MS Train Simulator. RR Tycoon 3.
YOUR "CODE" lacked error trapping here -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42016197 (if you call using prebuilt functions coding, that is - more like a kid using legos, lol!)...
---
Additionally - Didn't YOU say THIS also, in regards to coding:
"...cos we all try to write code that "looks cool" and you know, writing code that functions and easy to debug is all of secondary importance" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday November 18, @02:55AM (#42017605)
FROM -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42017605
"?"
QUESTION - Where's YOUR code that functions AND is easy to debug?
---
It isn't - LMAO:
* You write code like a NOOB does, completely omitting error trapping... and the proof's right in that 1st link above!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly/Again - Funny my code ran 5x perfectly here too, eh?
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http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42014943
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42016015
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42014957
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42014957
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3258205&cid=42015649
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(As well as 100's of times the past 1.5-2 yrs. now using it vs. trolls like yourself... perfect, every single time!)
* Care to EXPLAIN those PERFECT OUTPUTS, (lol) 'CruTcHy'?
So much for this "tidbit" from you, eh (lol) 'CruTcHy':
---
"i have never been talking about the code that you actually run in your python interpreter" - by crutchy (1949900) on Sunday November 18, @04:02AM (#42017797)
Man - First of all - You can't even write ENGLISH properly - sentences begin with capital letters!
Perhaps it's MY FAULT here, lol (not)... How on EARTH could I expect you to write maintainable code WITH error trapping?
Clue/New NEWS/NewsFlash: That's the code of MINE'S providing WHAT YOU NEED shown in the links above (& for others like you, as trolls, probably you posting again as ac)... rotflmao!
What's THAT kids? Oh, yes - that's right: You GUESSED IT - A dose of "ReVeRsE-PsyChoLoGy"... lmao!
... apkb
Games:
Diablo, then Diablo 2 and now Diablo 3 (yes, I like it).
Also, various versions of Command & Conquor (and Red Alert).
However, it's not just games:
As long as there is no Winamp (the basic version) for Linux you can count me out, I haven't seen a single media player for Linux that comes even close to Winamp's simplicity and speed - which I love!
On top of that, fast and easy to use imaging software like Ifranview - again, very simple and fast!
COD & NFS there are many more but I need these two so badly
I game on a PS3, not a PC or a Mac, although I do have "Postal 2" for my Mac. My favorite games are MOH 2010 and MOH Warfighter, PS3 all the way.
Oh yea, I was the character "Deuce", man do I relate to MOH 2010.
If it were just gaming keeping me on Windows, i'd gladly boot Linux and Vmware some Win 7. As it stands, I both personally and professionally use Windows, as I develop windows services, and the practicality of booting Linux at all is nearly nil.
Straight to the point:
I wanna play:
- Battlefield 3 (and 4 in the future)
- Diablo 3 (yeah, I have real bad taste)
- Dark Souls
- Sleeping Dogs
- HAWXS
- Batman
- also, Nethack
Thats my 2 cents, ty.
I'm using Windows just to be able to play games fine. Otherwise, I'd not have bought Win 8. Here goes the list of games I'd like to play on Linux without any *major* issues: a) MaxPayne Series b) GTA Series c) NFS Series d) Assassin's Creed
I would love to play Assassins Creed series on Linux
We use whatever works better its not just a games issue. We use Linux for development, FreeBSD for ease of system administration and ZFS for our movie collections, Windows for games, and for love of god stay away from Apple and Solaris for having nerve of non-opensource unix.
These are the games that I want to use on linux.
Pro Evolution Soccer Serise, Football manager serise, and Need 4 Speed
Microsoft flight simulator.
World of Warcraft. I'll most likely switch over to MAC which is Unix-based OS.
Really want to play these titles:
1. Counterstrike source
2. Command & Conquer Generals
3. Command & Conquer Tiberium Wars
Would be awesome if I was able to play:
Far Cry 2,3
Medal of Honor: Warfighter
Left 4 Dead 1,2
Need for Speed: Shift
Dirt 2, 3
I think it would be super great if Linux gaming enabled me to play all those games. It would really challenge Microsoft's market share on the PC platform.
http://www.themiragemall.com/games/ console or PC games available free, to download or to purchase.
League of Legends. My other favorite game is already available on Steam for Linux beta, Killing Floor.
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