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Yep. I prefer "when it's done" release date, but don't take too long like this company!

The new RoTT blows away BattleField and Cal of Duty ... These older than dirt games kick the pants off of newer games.

Damn right dude, those were good times!

Rise of the Triad

    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

        386DX/40 Computer (486DX2/66 strongly recommended)
        4 meg of free memory (An 8 meg machine is strongly recommended)
        Local Bus Video strongly recommended
        16550 Serial Port strongly recommended for modem play
        8.5 meg of Hard Drive Space (for shareware)
        20.0 meg of Hard Drive Space (for registered)

Wow - Seems a shame to waste a whole RaspberryPi on it, but I guess you need the extra grunt to do the x86 emulation in software ..

LOL - well paint me silly;
    Rise of the Triad – Raspberry Pi Edition

But he's always got a cigar.

The release date was always just "when it's done" before.

I have been a fan since Duke Nukem I, best we start playing from the beginning!

I'm not kidding, it *really* does give you great insight into duke's persona.

Duke Nukem II sported a kick-ass soundtrack, I was blown away.

I hope the game doesn't contain such crap music like the trailer has. Really now, you can't kick ass, and chew bubble gum, without metal!

I thought the project had been retaken a couple of months ago.

Hail to the king, baby! 2K Games and Gearbox Software today announced that Duke Nukem Forever will make its long-awaited debut in 2011, when it will ship on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC. Attendees of this weekend's Penny Arcade Expo will be able to go hands-on with the game at the 2K Booth (booth #3417), and see that it is very much alive. With this news, we are closing our Duke forums. However, fear not, as you can continue to talk with your fellow Duke fans in the new Dukem Nukem forums on GearboxSoftware.com.

Source: http://www.3drealms.com/

3d Realms is taking it badly -- they forcibly closed all forums related to Duke Nukem, even the older ones. It looks like Take 2 stole their IP.

You should probably actually visit their forum before posting misinformation. What has actually happened is that the main forum moderator, Joe Siegler, has been hired by Gearbox to handle their Duke Nukem community. As such they have moved Duke Nukem related forums over to the new Gearbox forum.

See his posts here and here for confirmation.

Whether they now own the Duke Nukem IP is unknown as no announcements have been made one way or the other.

At least link us to a site or two.

I just have to share this here - if you are a Duke Nukem fan... or really if you are just a fan of 'the funnay' then be sure to visit 3D Realms' Duke Nukem outtakes collection page: http://www.3drealms.com/duke3d/outtakes.html (note, it says realplayer is required by they also have .wav links)

If you listen closely, you hear it say: Kiiiiilll meeeeee....

and said they wanted their Shareware model back. I do realize that dlc's are not exactly the same thing, but we're not talking apples to oranges here... http://www.3drealms.com/history2.html

I suppose thats all dependant on whether E17 will come out at all.

Duke Nukem Forever will never come out.

You DO know the Development team at 3D Realms got sacked for not producing a game, right?

was it math rescue from apogee?

shareware episode: http://www.3drealms.com/downloads.html
buy full version download: http://www.buy3drealms.com/

Will Duke Nukem Forever wait to take advantage of DirectX 11?

Me investing, or believing in this crap, could happen.

It probably has about as good of a chance of success as Duke Nukem Forever.

Which was just shitcanned! Muhahaha!

Actually, there is verification - a forum post (on the 3drealms forums) by Joe Siegler, saying that "It's not a marketing thing. It's real."

They're really gone.

Apogee is saying ther are not affected by what happened to 3DRealms, and are refusing to say any more.

If you read their site you'll see they seemed to do lots of fun stuff along the years.

Of course they've been having fun. They've been playing around for over a decade.

What'll be interesting is to find out how true this is.
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=58519

By: mourningstar Crosspost from SA:

Channel_F, a previous employee of 3DR, posted some interesting info:

In my best interest, I'm going to be somewhat candid for now. I will, however, elaborate a bit on some things:

The 2001 trailer was 100% scripted cinematic, and not actual gameplay. They built specific demo maps just to record video from to make a trailer. Everything you see in that trailer was phony.

The typical work flow there went something like this: Designer would be assigned a task (build a new map, rebuild an old map, polish a bit of a map, etc.). Designer would work on said task for two, three weeks, a month, all the while lower management would be looking over it and making sure it was going in a "good general direction." Designer would move on to another task. A month or two later upper management would finally look at the work and say, "It's all wrong, do it again." Rinse, repeat.

Entire maps would be done from the ground up, almost to beta quality, and then thrown out simply because no one would make decisions early on in the process. (Read up on Valve's 'orange box' method of design -- that's how you make games)

Another example of WTF is the fact that there was one part of one map that was being worked on before I started working there. Nineteen months later and the same designer was still working on the same part of that same map... I'm not blaming the designer, it wasn't his fault.

I think the biggest problem that the company had in general is being self-funded. When you're a developer working directly with a publisher and you have milestones to meet it's a whole different ballgame. If you don't meet those milestones, you don't get any money. That right there will keep your project on schedule. If, however, you're funding it yourself, you don't really have anyone to answer to except yourself and you can quickly lose sight of just how much money is going out the door.

If you read their site you'll see they seemed to do lots of fun stuff along the years.

Really? Well, I've attempted several times this morning to actually load up their site and I'm seeing Page Load Errors. Seems that they're officially gone off the web for the moment.

I came across the DNF forums a while back and was surprised to see how active it is, continuous posting everyday, constantly breathing in the hype and now it's all gone and they are in denial. oh dear

If you read their site you'll see they seemed to do lots of fun stuff along the years.

I think most of there where to have fun and do what they liked. If you read their job posting, you'll see they offer revenue from sales of their projects and honestly are a cool company to work at. And that probably was what caused their shutdown, with all the EA and others just going for profits and making developers and programmers a slave.

Also see their company info page, theres lots of fun stuff. I wish I had worked there, they had a great mentality and fun in it.

But it's for the Apogee Duke Nukem games, the first of which is released on September, according to 3dRealms.

Well, the only big code that remains unreleased under GPL from that era is Build, but—

Actually, I spoke too soon. The source for Duke3D is here. NUTS TO YOU GUYS NOW, ODAMEX!

from http://www.3drealms.com/gethired.html

Freedom from arbitrary completion date pressures, which allows the game to be made on its schedule, and not some suit's schedule.

That is pure win!

System Requirements

• 486DX2/66 with 8 megabytes of memory and VGA graphics. We STRONGLY recommend a good Pentium with 16Mb of memory and PCI local bus video.
• For the SVGA modes, a VESA compliant video card is required.

Interesting paper:
- relies on the fact that *any* changes in the blueprint would be prohibitively expensive, could be, but just replacing components by pathways does not *sound* very expensive to me
- RSA key pair generation on chip: bad idea, RSA key pair generation can take a lot of time (ECC key pair generation could be used as a replacement), needs PRNG
- PRNG on chip might prove expensive (where does it get its entropy???)
- no mention of X509 or any other PKI scheme, lets hope they are smart enough to see that they need some form of key management scheme
- cost of maintaining a PKI (public key infrastructure) might be rather expensive, especially if both parties are new to the game

Overall, interesting idea, but I'm not so sure anyone would want this. Lots of hassle for the buyer without any benefits to him, this makes it 1) expensive, thus a less favourable solution to others without this scheme 2) more likely that they will screw up the PKI system that is needed for this to work.

Well, they called it EPIC, and we all know that it may take some time before EPIC products come out (e.g. this one :)

It'll be worth it though...

http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/

complete with blinking text and "we know its taking a long time"

at least they have a sense of humor about it.

Back in the day, Apogee games came up with a similar model. They put out the first in the series (usually 3 games) for free--I remember getting Commander Keen on a floppy disk with my joystick purchase. If you liked the first one, you could order the rest of the series for a nominal fee. It seemed to be a fairly successful business model.

I have played Tux racer with my girlfriends two year old daughter and she loves it. My girlfriend likes it too, she was just amazed and happy the first time she saw her daughter playing it. In the future I have thought that maybe in 3 or 5 she could start playing some old games like Jazz Jack Rabbit and Wacky Wheels, of course with supervision from either one of us.

I really don't see nothing wrong to let small children play games. The only question is what games and how much. I have thought myself that the games, played by children, should have no violence, no sexual content and no scary content, preferably no human characters. When children are older and understand clearly difference between a game and reality, then at the age of 9 - 12 they could with consent play some more serious games, but games with violence like GTA series should not be played before 16.

Today a new teaser was released for Duke Nukem Forver was released.
Since it's been 6 whopping years since the last one I think this could qualify as one of the 50 biggest Gaming Events this year.

You can find links to it at http://www.3drealms.com/ but beware, there is some servermelting going on right now (and a slashdotting wont help either).

As if to justify all those people who claim these lists come too early to include all the big events of 2007, 3D Realms had to go and release a Duke Nukem Forever Teaser. I certainly think this qualifies to be on a revised version of the list.

Well, to be fair, we never ever saw any demo of Duke Nukem Forever. Or any footage at all. Not even a screen shot.

Or am I wrong on this? Is there any DNF screenshots or footage out there?

3drealms has released screenshots of DnF here.

Well according to this: http://www.3drealms.com/keenhistory/keenhistory2.h tml
Keen 7-9 would be in 3d if the original creator could get the rights back to him. So, it would be a possible, if extremely long, shot.

I must say that I would like to see ID do something other than a FPS. Perhaps I am getting old and persnickety, but the side scrollers are still quite entertaining when one does them correctly.

Especially from this game.

Duke Nukem forever.

Then, when word gets out that I actually have a working copy, these people will definiatly be searching for me: http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/

Cause, they'd like to see a finished product to.

"One being that the majority of released games are fun for about 5 minutes. Congradulations you wasted fifty bucks."

Oh man. Someone should invent a free sample of what the real game is like.. That would be so cool!

Are there any other 'big picture' problems out there you think would benefit from the grid approach?

I can think of two:

this

...and this.

At the time, Sweeney's big competitor was Apogee Software, which created shareware hits like Castle Wolfenstein and Commander Keen.

At the time, Sweeney's big competitor was Apogee Software, which created shareware hits like Castle Wolfenstein and Commander Keen.

from the blog:

The largest software project in mankind's history now threatens to also be the longest.

Vista will be the largest software project until this is released...

Well, Vista will be the largest software project!

They left of Duke Nukem Forever for the Atari 2600.

Wolfenstein 3D, Commander Keen, Duke Nukem I, II, 3D, Monster Bash, Wacky Wheels. These are now at the 3d realms website.

BBSes provided a major launching ground for shareware and online text-based games like Tradewars, I remember dialing in with my 2400 baud modem every day tying up the phoneline for my daily fix.

I haven't tried freedos in a while, but I tried dosbox and it worked well with commander keen on winxpsp2 =)

(I am not affiliated with any of the software listed above)

That is not entirely true, there is always the atari 2600 version.

"There are games I've pirated and deleted, the latest being Prey. Meh. Make your game worthwhile to me and I will buy a copy."

http://www.3drealms.com/prey/download.html

Sheesh! There's absolute NO WAY a publisher can please a pirate. The above is a FREE demo, so people can try-before-they-buy, AND THEY STILL PIRATE. Then to add salt to the wound, they complain. Maybe all the content creaters SHOULD go out of business, just to shut all the complainers up* (my money's on some BITCHIN about that too)

*And for those who do play by the rules, it'll be a perfect lesson were the fault truely lies (blame the car alarm, not the thief)

"The prices have gone up a fair bit so I'm not surprised that piracy has. Especially when a large chunk of your target audience is under 25s and a lot of that is still in school and college earning 6.25 an hour."

And they're running Prey on their 8088's with VGA monitors, and downloading over two tin cans and some string. Yeah! I can see why they're too poor to afford games.

"If they have to have copy protection it'd be nice if game companies just made their games FOSS after a few years because they aren't going to sell it anymore really"

Psst! Nostalgia! Nostalgia! Nostalgia!

"The cd protection is just annoying - fricking cd-keys are such a pain to keep"

I use a label-maker and put it on the CD itself.

"...and I hate that I cant legally back up so many of my cds now."

You might want to read the EULA's sometime. Some companies DO allow a one copy backup.

"Abandonware is a great idea guys!"

I'm waiting for the copyright to expire on some GPL code.

Sorry, but that trademark has already been awarded.

- Stealth Dave

P.S. - Kudos to the DNF web team for creative use of the <blink> tag!

yep, and it was supposedly completed.

This isn't that bad compared to say, the Lo Wang character in Shadow Warrior - http://www.3drealms.com/sw/

http://www.3drealms.com/history2.html

Yes, Prey was due out in 1998. This is 3d realms, and they finally released Prey, now imagine if Duke Nukem comes out this year. They'll have nothing to work on :(

The funniest thing is that they tout portal technology. Portal is due out with Episode 2 of HL2, producing a more interesting a better version of dynamic portals made by the player.

Feel free to laugh at meantions of DNF also on that history page.

You can take solace in the fact that 3DR will remove the CD protection in a future patch. No word when the plan on doing that though.

or you could download Prey via Triton, and have no need for a CD whatsoever