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What Would You Do With a 92 TBps Router?
enodev writes "Cisco announces today it's new 'Carrier routing system' For a price tag starting at $450,000 it's able to route up to 92 Tbps. It also features IOS-XR and the first optical OC-768c/STM-256c optical Interface." update changed TBps to Tbps and suddenly things seemed less cool ;)
I begins with 'p' and ends with 'r0n'.
"Juniper Networks has individual routers that are at least as fast, but the company cannot combine as many routers to ultimately produce the same speeds, according to Chris Nicoll, a telecommunications industry analyst with Current Analysis, a research firm."
and more....
"The new router design is the first developed by Cisco that allows several routers to be connected, according to the company. A single router would be able to transmit data at 1.2 terabits a second. But as many as 72 routers can be hooked together to send data at 92 terabits a second, far faster than any router sold now. In telecommunications, data transfer is usually measured in bits per second. A terabit is one trillion bits. "
Hmmm.
Route traffic.
Always value the individual over the system. --Bruce Lee "I don't need a Sig - I have a custom 191" - me
Horny bastard: Porn. Lots of porn.
Script kiddie: OMG I CAN DOS PPL!!!!!!!111111111oneone
Pirate: Warez, and other assorted treasures.
CowboyNeal: Hey, we can use it to host slashdot!
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...because my home network equipment only has 100Mbps adapters, and I can't afford to upgrade them all.
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
Sell it for $450,000. Then get a house.
Hang it off the back of my 56k modem, what do you think I'm gonna do with it? Sheesh!
"What Would You Do With a 92 TBps Router?"
Pinky : "Gee, Brain what do you want to do tonight?"
Brain : "The same thing we do every night Pinky. Try to take over the world!"
(Karma = auto -1)
Yeah, is there any other thing to do with that much bandwidth? You could get porn at such high resolution you can see the ingrown hairs on the porn "actress'" butt.
"My bunghole itches. Is it because I am a girl?"
pump out a lot of spam...
Failing that with enough filespace it could server an awful lot of mp3/ogg/aac
CJC
Interestingly however it does not use IOS. Which brings up several questions: is Cisco going to start replacing IOS with redesigned-from-scratch (watch out for second system effect!)? Or will they maintain two routing software bases, IOS and whatever the new one is called? Will this be an issue from either a marketing or technical/CCIE perspective?
sPh
Make a CD Case?
actually, I just hook it up in my apartment and not tell anyone- then the next lan party I host not get complaints that my network is too slow.
(bastards.)
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My cable modem choked on just downloading those specs (and that pricetag)!!! O_o
Now it's huddled in the corner crying about "too much pressure to perform" or some such crap! Thanks a lot you insensitive clod!
I'm studying Optical transmissions at the moment, and just getting my head around how bytes were interleaved and mapped across AU's, TUG's etc in *one* STM was a stretch enough, (the diagrams are nuts), and now there's an STM2565! That's a bloody lot of multiplexing....
Bet they're glad they don't use PDH anymore....
I mean, really, is there any other obvious choice on slashdot, besides pr0n of course?
Heroscape, it's like legos combined with anachronistic wargames.
Now you guys please be careful not to /. Cisco :)
I will work to elevate you, just enough to bring you down
download the internet
... I'd sell it and buy an Aston Martin. I'm not THAT much of a geek -- big routers just don't attract the babes the way I'd like.
I'm not normally an irrational zealous dickhead, but I figure "When in Rome..."
Denial of Service attack on the entire internet. ;)
-Alex
the worlds biggest game of counterstrike. All those players on one server, teamkilling and camping like nothing on earth.
doesn`t it sound great
CJC
I I wasn't looking for a faster NIC, higher-quality cabling, a new ISP, and probably an all new place to live just to use the damn thing, I'd probably be looking for a way to sell it discreetly and anonymously -- because I'm certain I lack the means to acquire one legally.
Why- I would heat my house with it of course. Anyone have any numbers on the power consumption of this beast?
It's a small point, but the article calls it 92 Tbps, not 92 TBps. Which means its really 19 terabytes per second, which works out to some ungodly number of libraries of congress per fortnight. Either way, it's a lot.
Cisco announces today it's new 'Carrier routing system'
It's "its," not "it's!" Sometimes I think the grammar behind this is starting to devolve... or at least I'm having difficulty parsing it now.
Terabits/sec (Tbps), not Terabytes/sec (TBps).
I'm not surprised some moron doesn't know his units, especially when it's mentioned in the article and placed in its proper notation. I'm surprised the EDITORS refuse to change it to be factual.
occultae nullus est respectus musicae - originally a Greek proverb
Looks like overkill for most uses I can imagine, except perhaps for linking two extremely transfer-happy facilities together.
The first thing I'd do is set it up for use with my Cable Modem connection.
Immediately, I'd notice it wouldn't work.
Then I'd call up my technical support for the cable service, and tell them I couldn't connect.
They would have me unplug the modem from the "PC", shut down my computer, and reboot it. It wouldn't work.
Then they'd have me cycle the cable modem.
Then they'd ask me if I had a router. I would say "Yeah, I do bitches! I got me a Cisco 92TBps. Cost me almost a half-mil, but it's sooo cool!"
Then they'd tell me it was unsupported, to which I'd respond I would wedge that pizza box sideways up their asses.
THE END
I would pretend there were enough other people out there with high speeds to make this even remotely useful.
Who says you can't get performance from a microkernel?
This was the product whose internal development code name was HFR (Huge Fscking Router).
Sweet!
p.s.
Note the other key word "self-healing".
I would...
for the first time ever...
*gasps*
attempt to slashdot slashdot.
Well, with all of that bandwidth, I would imagine that volumetric data feeds of realtime sources with collision detection at high rez could be sent uncompressed, both ways.
This could be quite usefull in the medical field for say, exploratory surgeries. Collision detection could exist 3 dimentionally instead of the current 1D point sensors.
Nurse Jameson, this is Dr. Peter North calling, is the patient prepped for the 'probe'?
Sigs? We don't need no stinking sigs!
TCP/IP over OpenGL over DRM?
Compete for the X-Prize with it?
*ducks*
I'd host a beowulf cluster of Unreal Tournament 2004 servers with 32-player maps.
lease it out to a large company, and actually make some money off it. At the end of the lease, I might actually have enough money to connect my own stuff to it, as well as to live off of.
"Forget the engineers." -Carly Fiorina, briber of MIT Technology Review.
TBps = TeraBytes per second Tbps = Terabits per second?
...over carrier pigeon
And why do we need to route this much traffic? Because over 60% of all email is spam. Because unpatched systems are getting trojans, which in turn are contacting their makers.
We all get along together like tornadoes and trailer parks.
90% of posts will be 1.1 standard deviations away from one of the following:
... 4. PROFIT!!!"
0. "fist pr0st!!!!!111~"
1. "92TBps of pr0n!!!"
2. "Imagine a beowulf cluster of these!"
3. "I for one welcome our OC-768c/STM-256/optical Interface overlords!"
4. "1. OC-768c 2. STM-256 3.
5. "If IOS is based on unix, does that mean Cisco will have to pay SCO for licenses?"
6. "I use BNC you insensitive clod!"
7. "emacs does this
This convinced me we do have a need for a space based freakin' laser cannon.
Its a shame that no matter how good cisco claim to be juniper is still a better product with a better interface... IOS is cr4p on large installations
I would download the Library of Congress...
and then porn.
On a more serious note, I would very much like to setup my own "Internet Node". No need for me to pay for sattelite internet any more, the internet comes to me!
Physics makes the world go 'round.
I would sell it on ebay!
Nick Powers
Encryption: I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to encrypt it...
What good does the router do with nothing to connect too..
They dont work in a vacuum.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
How do they go about testing the full capacity for these? Would a customer ever know if was not quite getting full throughput?
"A microprocessor... is a terrible thing to waste." --
GeneralEmergency
Sell it and buy a lot of pidgeons... think aboot it.. train all of 'eom to carry small hard drives long distance... can maximize capacity transfer at the sake of speed. OF course there may be data loss due to collisions and bad birds.. but if you stripe the data across multiple drievs you can rebuild the data! And thank god that pidgeons aren't migratory like swallows (European AND African!)... otherwise you may haev your network go south on ya! Oh.. weather proofing.. coconuts... wait... that means swallows... oh dammit.. this just won't work!
(1st sig) If this were a snappy sig, you'd be reading it right now. (2nd sig) I'm a karma whore. >Insert FUD here
What would Jesus do with a 92 TBps router? Route traffic, of course! Maybe that's what the afterlife uses to route new arrivals to their appropriate final destinations.
Hmm. If Peter is just a sysadmin....?
Sell it for $450,000 and buy something useful, like a house.
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Counter-Strike!!!!!
SIG: TAKE OFF EVERY 'CAPTAIN'!!
...route all traffic to www.slashdot.org and slash the dot.
+1 Insightful, -1 Troll. What can I say, I'm an Insightful Troll.
I had a silly asignment for a class of mine: look up and a router, tell me what it can do, and then compare/contrast the router you picked with one another classmate picked.
:P)
Being the sadistic mothrefucker that I am, I hopped over to cisco's site at about 1am and saw this beast listed "Carrier Router System". I didn't recognize it as a "normal" Cisco offering, and 92Tb/s is really fucking fast. Though, beyond that, I didn't think anything of it. Cisco is just expected to have the fastest stuff out there, right? And to think, were I more up on my Cisco products, I could've submitted this to the front page. (And they could have denied me access, and posted someone else's submission 12 hours later, as tends to be the case around here
As it sands, those sorry sons-of-bitches in my IT200 networking course are going to hate me. They likely all picked SOHO equipment to compare/contrast and won't know up from down when it comes to comparing/contrasting. "What's 'Tbps' mean?" they'll ask.
~/ssh slashdot.org ssh: connect to host slashdot.org port 22: too many beers
... maybe it will be enough for an 8 nodes Windows supercomputer. Obviously, if you want a 16 nodes Windows cluster, you will need a slightly more speedy hardware.
Signatures are for stupids.
"I'd install Linux on it!" gets shot
I wonder how much Slashdot was paid to run this ad. Doesn't seem they even changed the wording from the 160 x 600 gif ad running elsewhere.
Just because he didn't know doesn't make him an idiot... relax dude it's only /.
/.
Repeat... relax... it's only
And it is an open source product! So cool!
I bet the spammers are grinning.. large email systems connected to large network gear connected to a few of these.. = spamers wet dreams
10. Tell all my mates. Note the names of the one or two who don't laugh at me, and remember to send them, and only them, Xmas cards this year
9. Get a really really fast sniffer, so I can make sure there's no porn traffic going through my router
8. Write out 92Tb as a decimal number, just because I know it'll look really impressive
7. Use it to pick up chicks. Revert to old story about being in astronaut training program, as it would be just as successful and slightly less geeky
6. It's optical, right? See what happens when I cross the beams...
5. Sleep with it under my bed. Less painful than a vasectomy, and probably just as effective
4. Paint go-fast stripes on it, put a "Turbo" sticker on it, then track down and razz anyone who spent $450k on the "old, non-turbo version" by mistake
3. Use it to beat the living daylights out of everyone associated with "Big Brother". I really really hate that show
2. Advertise it on eBay with a photo, no reserve, and a description of "some sort of computer network thingy"
1. Buy 2 and see if they'll reproduce in captivity
Take the bible set it up as a loop between them. Create the worlds best game of broken telephone.
Put some instant coffee inside to see if I could go back in time....
Will this IOS be OpenSource too ? :)
I'd still be connected to the net at the same speed so who cares.
All this router stuff really confuses me.
Could somebody please tell me how to hook this thing up to my PDA?
Now we just need to shift their focus from network traffic to car traffic - If people can't get to work to manage the router, it may as well be a box of crackerjacks. Now I am hungry for strange colored popcorn.
www.olin.edu
conf t
int pos 2/0
*giggle*
shut
*cackle*
no shut
*snort*
shut
*ROFL*
no shut
"Sir, I can't see anything wrong with the network. It must (shut) be a problem (no shut) with your equipment.
Sell it and pay off my mortgage.
Also, John Dvorak has noted that whenever Intel says "this chip isn't designed for desktops" they are about 3 months away from releasing a desktop version.
So, where will Cisco go with this? Keep a specialized IOS version for carriers only? Or start filtering the new version down through the product line while claiming they aren't going to do that? Or some other strategy?
sPh
Obviously, the system is not all it's cracked up to be. (Or all its cracked up to be, either.)
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I'd post pictures of it online with a caption..."all your bandwidth are belong to us".
Liberalism...the next best thing to thinking.
From the department of redundancy department.
I'd rather have someone respond than be modded up.
Hook a modem up to it and start surfing!
-- I am. Therefore, I think!
I'd build a keggerator into it and bring it to LAN parties.
...Hey there sweet thing. Wanna come back with me to my folks house, and I'll show you my 92 TBps Router in the basement?
Erm duhhhh!
1) Get 92TB/s router
2) ??
3) Profit!
I think thats pretty obvious (but not too obvious to mod as redundant.. ah fuck it ive got more karma than piss!
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who has that much bandwidth anyway
Should be 92 Tb/s. See the link. Still mighty zippy, though... I think I'll take two.
heh
Type-o or not, the slashdot post doesn't agree with cisco's own information. They say 92 Tbps, not 92 TBps. That's a difference of only 644 Tbps (80.5 TBps), but who's counting?
I don't personally care about moderation one way or the other, but to moderate my OP "troll" and give this one +5 Informative borders a bit on the bizarre.
sPh
mirror, in case of slashdotting
More music, fewer hits
what WOULDN'T I do with it. except maybe make my busted-ass dsl line faster.
Can it make Cisco website faster?
Am i the only one who immediately thought of RFC1149?
20 mil and I will! Learn Esperanto with 20M others.
Casemod it :)
In other news, MS says such routers need to be installed in every home to allow the downloading of Longhorn patches.
...would be ppl with lists of the other 90%.
God, i love this place!
>>Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky? /. before we plot our schemes?
>>I think so Brain, but how can we afford to get a router that can do 92 Tb/s?
>>Pinky, what did I tell you about reading
"A witty saying proves nothing." ~Voltaire
"d'Oh!" ~Homer
I'd rent it out to the government, and then use the resulting rent to make payments on:
(1) a condo in NYC
(2) a Maserati
(3) a NetJets account
With that much bandwidth, I'd make my own Internet.
I think I'd call it... Internet Reloaded....
Keep my system up to date with windowsupdate.microsoft.com.
...beowulf cluster...
I can think of that would need that capacity right now
QNX Powers Universal Media Gateway for Next-Generation Digital Video Networks
QNX Software Systems today announced that the QNX® Neutrino® realtime operating system (RTOS) will be shipping as part of the Cisco uMG9850 QAM Module, a new quadrature amplitude modulation product designed to let cable operators use Gigabit Ethernet to deliver video-on-demand and other multimedia services efficiently and cost-effectively to TV set-top receivers.
'Little OS that could' just might
"In a deal signed two years ago, Cisco (csco) chose QNX as its preferred real-time OS vendor as part of Cisco's 'ongoing efforts to increase the reliability and availability of data-voice-video networks.' Since then, not much seems to have materialized from the partnership."
Cisco's HFR is here
"The IOS-XR operating system kernel was acquired from QNX Software Systems, a small Canadian developer of realtime operating system code to companies in the automotive, communications, defense, industrial automation and medical device markets. Cisco already ships QNX operating system code in its uMG9850 QAM digital video module for the Catalyst 4500 Gigabit Ethernet switch."
Cisco Unveils the HFR
" The transition is analagous to Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT - message board) moving from DOS-based operating systems to Windows NT, says analyst Stephen Kamman of CIBC World Markets.
Just as NT did, IOS XR could begin trickling down to lower-level systems, eventually permeating Cisco's entire portfolio, including edge and enterprise boxes. "The question is how quickly they can push that software through the product line," Kamman says."
"The software is based on a kernel licensed from QNX Software Systems, but tailored for the job. 'We have made some pretty substantial modifications to [the QNX code] that are Cisco proprietary,' Volpi says."
[Disclaimer: This is a very happy QNX Employee.]
I'd sell it and buy myself a house, car, ... and all the gadgets i can think of and retire 8-)
Has Cisco installed the same backdoor as in previous version of their software?
--
"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
I'll take 4.
-- The box said Windows 2000 or better... so I installed Linux
This is a just a bid for PR.
Juniper's router interconnect product is being announced shortly, and will allow users to interconnect T640s already installed in their network - no forklift upgrade. Cisco just wants to get something in the news before it rolls out, so that they don't seem quite so much the technological also-rans that they are, in this space.
Considering the number of delays this box's development has undergone, one can only imagine how many exciting 'Cisco features' have been left in to make this rush to market possible.
Us it to route TCP/IP Over Bongos
Aside from those of us that are in the data wharehousing business most carriers are very space concious. Now I havent gone to look at the unit but even if they were all the size of the standard 3600 routers you're still talking a serious space consideration to even set this up.
Not to mention medusa living on the back of this thing to connect it.
I have also seen many carriers more critical centers and I can tell you not many of them would have the room without knocking out a few walls. Perhaps if some of them would finally rid theirselves of the outdated sun servers that for some reason have to be 12U high most of the time and run about as fast as a PII they could accomodate these.
Do they even make the OC-768 cables yet?
I don't even own that many tablespoons, but even if I did, I don't know that I could route that many all at once.
*** once i really listened, the noise just went away. -liz phair
Pluris offered a scalable multi-terabit router back in 2001. Avici offered something somewhat similar (but not as good, in my biased opinion), and AFAIK it is still available.
1. Build 92Tbps router /.
2. Test it by posting a story on
3. ???
4. Profit!!!
It's 8 times faster than the one in the article
Hmmm, looking at the T640 node docs this seems to say that the CRS-1 is the same, 1.2Tbs. The Juniper docs don't say how many nodes can go in a matrix tho, could be more/less than 72.
A bigger issue with someone who would compare them is that all features are available, and have been for over a year, on the T640 node but the CRS-1 most are TBD on a spanking new OS.
Other points are the T640 node takes half the space and less power; could be an issue if realestate and HVAC are costly...
It will be interesting to watch Juniper and Cisco snipe at each other in the upcomming CRS-1 vs T640 battle!
On the other hand, the new Cisco router costs 10,000 times as much and is almost 100,000 times as fast, so perhaps the Cisco *is* a better deal!
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
What does a desktop hard drive have to do with a router?
I'd probably use it as a footstool or doorstop or something. Or maybe just take it down to the pub, and be all like "'ssup d00dz.. check out my pimpin' new 92 Tbps router. It routes!"
Curiosity was framed. Ignorance killed the cat.
I would hide the Ark of Cisco in the city of Tannis. Any network that carried this infront of it would be immune to getting /.'ed. But, you have to be careful for those network Nazis. Now, does anyone know where I could get a staff of RAM ?
two chicks at the same time.
Not sure where Cisco gets 96Terabits from? 72 Chassis with 16 slots of 40Gigabite available - 72x16*40=46080Terabits. The slot capacity is 40Gigabits, not 80. Surely they're not marketing their 40Gig slots as full duplex 80Gig throughput slots... OC768 doesn't do full duplex! So 96 urm - bollocks more like!
I hope I am not the only person who misread "carrier routing system" as "carrier PIGEON routing system". Talk about flashbacks to old slashdot posts.
The CRS-1 is a huge mucking beast. Seven feet tall, 23" wide, 36" deep. Fully loaded, it weighs over 1500 lbs. Then there's power. Using 120v AC, it would take over 130 amps to run the sucker. Then you need over three tons of air conditioner to cool it.
Nah, I think I'll keep the 4-port Linksys.
Buy shares in power companies. To run 72 chassis to get the bandwidth they're touting needs approximately 1 megawatt of power.
erase start [confirm] Y reload
There are many QNX machines around, but most of them are "faceless". Railroad switchyard control. Nuclear power plants. Avionics. And now, big routers.
I find it interesting that the exact same story is categorized under different topics.
From http://www.cisco.com/application/pdf/en/us/guest/p roducts/ps5763/c1031/cdccont_0900aecd800f8118.pdf
;-P
"Each route processor manages shelf controller functions and supports up to 4 GB of DRAM plus a 40-Gbps hard drive for storing software images and dumps."
I'm sure they meant "40 GB hard drive"
OTOH, if they have a 40Gbps HD, I sure could use one.....no more need for that expensive RAM....swapping will be plenty fast.
I used to get high on life, but I developed a tolerance. Now I need something stronger.
... and get rid of my old Craftsman router, of course.
i'd change my name to Sisquo and then i'd have a KRS-1 router