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Re:Boot-to-Game
Someone did create it.
http://live.linux-gamers.net/?s=download
Try the big edition. It's awesome (seriously).
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Tons of free games
Works off a CD, DVD or USB flash drive. live.linuX-gamers.net
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Re:Debian
Just give me a debian build for my phone including dialer, messaging, etc..
Then I can play REAL games on my phone.. Or as real as they get in Linux!
Games aren't real on Linux? Yeah, PenguSpy and Linux Gamers don't have real games, really written for real Linux. You know, like Quake 4, Doom 3, Vendetta, and X3 - those aren't real games... oh, wait.
And nevermind that wine actually works really well, nowadays, running many top games "flawlessly, out of the box", and tons more "run flawlessly with some special configuration".
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Re:Slashdotted
http://live.linux-gamers.net/?s=download
also slashdotted. anyone got a torrent?
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Slashdotted
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Linux Gamers
Seems strange nobody yet mentioned the linuX-gamers' website.
It has an extensive list of games of all genres, indexed per category.
In addition to the many good titles already submitted by other posters, I would like to mention Savage: the Battle of Newerth. It is a quite old game (2003, if memory serves me well), got open-sourced when original publisher rolled out the sequel, but latest mod is kept closed-sourced.
It's a mixed FPS/RTS game, OpenGL, multiplatform (Windows, Linux and Mac [there were issues with previous mods, seems resolved with latest]), online-only cooperative game wich faces humans and beasts with the goal of destroyng enemy's main building. One player per team takes role of "commander", and plays the game RTS (Startcraft-style), and the other people play on the field, in FPS mode.
There are buildings, enchantments, AI controlled workers and many many more.
I mentioned mods: developement of the game continued by third parties (community-driven, at most) to keep it up-to-date. Latest "stable" is the SFE (Savage Full Enchantment), while there's the almost-released XR (at rc1 stage, or rc2... iirc).
All can be found at the community site Newerth, officially backed-up and supported by S2Games, the original publisher. Downloads from the home page are directly for the XR. In the menu donwload section there are others aswell.
*Disclaimer*: I'm not affiliated to the site/organization in any way except for the fact that I'm a registered user, in quality of gamer.
An old Athlon@800MHz with a Nvidia FX5200 was sufficent to make it playable. Actual hardware should not suffer from any inconvenience. But keep in mind XR introduced use of hardware shaders (among with other visual improvements) which may raise the bar.
After all those years I still like this game: its unique mix, in comunion with many really good players (and many many many more newbs ;) make me still enjoy loggin-in for a few rounds. -
Try a Linux 'Games' Distro.
For example: http://live.linux-gamers.net/
Or, if your distro has lots of installable packages available as a rule (like Ubuntu), try poking through it's 'games' section.
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Ask at a linux games site
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Re:This is great
I would like to see someone use it to create a Linux gaming CD with popular open source games on it, to help convert the GameHeads to Linux from Windows.
This is one of the best I've seen so far.
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live.linux-gamers.net
I think this might be a good start.
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Recommendation for games with Couples
Well I could say "buy a console" but I don't want to give you that blut reply. The big catch is you are on a laptop so for gaming that is probably the worst of 2 worlds: Less power along with fewer gaming options that are not stragety. However there is one thing I could tell you: If you put Linux on it you have a number of options as Linux takes more resources. If Adventures Games don't count as Stragety (but to some it may I feel the are different) there are actually a number of commercial games for Linux and non-commercial games of considerable quality.
http://www.linuxgamingworld.com/
Among these include action, simulation as well as the RPG and stragety games (which are my favoriate in case you didn't guess). WINE is in many ways better for running certain games than Windows since you can no longer buy Windows 2000 new, and if MS does withdraw Windows XP on June 30th, 2006 (which would drive MANY business people AND gamers to using WINE on Linux, MS just isn't that smart I guess) the only laptops you can run Windows on will need 2 Gigs of RAM minimum according to reports. (In other words 17" Laptops or nothing for MS). So again, Linux is a nice alternative you can run on just about and laptop and you don't worry as much about things like poor framerate. (although its still an issue on some games).
The following site has info on noncommercial Linux games and Linux emulators
http://www.linux-gamers.net/
The SNES emulators are awesome and although I have a SuperFamicom (Super Nintendeo, the Original from Japan), the Emulators work nicely. Get a ROM chip reader, and WOW! Imagine! Truth be told, because of the old hardware limitations, the old games were FAR more original and creative than most games today.
Of course every geek on earth (and beyond) knows about SourceForge.net. Frets On Fire is a Linux version of guitar heros that is very popular. Several Dance, Dance Revolution games I Believe are on Linux as well as long as you have USB foot dance pads. Awesome!
There are emulators for Windows of course, but given all the weird stuff out there, I go in assuming any closed source solution that is non-enterprise (and a few that are) are laced with some kind of Spyware (Remember Vista itself has some spyware elements including the "kill switch" and MS activity monitoring "features" you agree to have imposed on you when you install it under the EULA). So if you can't trust MS to respect the customer...(okay, MS not the most trustworthy company but still...), I think open source is the only way to keep software companies on the straight and narrow.
I use Windows 2000 and XP for only two things: testing for windows environments of clients, and a few odd games that don't quite work on WINE...yet... The Mac OS X isn't bad for gaming: You can pretty much run almost all Linux software on them, and you can play a few games not made for Linux like Neverwinter Night II (no authoring module however) but as that is a RPG game anyway you don't want that.
The best Console gaming solutions in my opinion is the Wii. Its the only console that adds physical elements to get you off your seat outisde of the DDR (Dance Dance Revolution games for the Playstation). Of course the laptopt will do Flash games too, if you like pure arcade type of stuff.
For couples, I think the simulation games are ideal: Car Racing, Airplane/Spaceship combat games, are the best for couples.They can interact and act out their differences. :D The Super Mario SNES games (on an emulator or packing on the Wii) are FANTASTIC for couples as are Tetris games. An old Japanes Favoriate (not available in English), Pyo Pyo, is in my opinion the ulitimate couples games as in this tetris variation, it has tons of cute victory sounds, and you can really mess up your opponent by dropping "bubble" on your opponent's space to make their life more "interesting". I was introduced -
Re:I tried to get more people into it.Because nobody makes games for linux. There are a lot of reasons for that:
Unreal Tournament 2003/4 comes with a script to install it on Linux. Runs better under Linux than in Windows , IMO. There was an issue with a library, but a soft link fixed that.
1: Check out http://www.linux-gamers.net/ They have how-tos on getting games to run under Linux, and also have install scripts for other games. I got Steam, MoH, and CS running, almost got BF2142 to work.
2: Nearly all of the Linux users I know have no trouble with using closed source programs. People need to got off their high-horse when it comes to this issue. I do know a Linux guy who makes religious-fundos look tame though....
3: Never had any problem here. Well, apart from graphics drivers and having to reconfigure my settings every time I installed new ones.
4: Make the games (or make Wine easier to install windows games), and the market share should follow. Maybe someone should make games for the ee and see what happens...
I've been considering the move to Linux, but until I can get my games to install easily, I'll have to stick with windows. Although I might even give up on PC gaming, and game only on the PS3. PC gaming has been rife with cheating and bots for years now, and if more games come out on the PS3 supporting Keyboard and Mouse, that's where I'll likely spend my time. The PS3 onliners seem a bit more mature as well. (Not like those Xbox360 Halo-Whores, from what I've heard. I'm sure there are nice people there, but I only hear about the bad ones.)
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Re:Full Support
That is handled by Xorg.
xmodmap gives a good idea of how you do it. xmodmap is the key to mapping the buttons to what you want. -
What?!?
So, does this mean that they don't "have a lengthy certification process" for PC patches? What is the real problem anyway? If they need feature and update parity between PC and console versions, then just keep doing what they already do: don't let systems with different versions play each other, but if users (Xbox360, PS3 and PC) have the same version, then let them play! Also, they plan a linux client version. Will linux users not be able to play against PC users either?
The proposed brick wall between the different platform users would make this a pointless purchase for me because I would want to play against some friends that use consoles. I wonder if this would also mixed prevent lan play? -
Re:Answered your own question there, didn't ya?
With regards to the part of the article that talks about corporate customization of games for corporate or military training, I'm surprised that I didn't see anyone else here talk about this but how about turning to the OSS world for custom game mods? cube shows great potential for modification. Nexuiz looks really nice and plays sweet. Tremulous is a great example of a FPS with non-traditional FPS rules.
I would be terribly, terribly remiss not to mention http://live.linux-gamers.net/ which I have blogged
about previously. I'm sure that any of these folks would make it happen if you waved $5M in front of them. -
Re:Well...SuperGamerLiveDVD http://librenix.com/?inode=10887
live.linuX-gamers.net is a Linux live-dvd distribution: "boot 'n play" http://live.linux-gamers.net/
One of My Favorites, AdvanceCD is a bootable live CD, DVD and USB disk of a minimal Linux distribution containing the AdvanceMAME emulator.
You can boot it in any PC and play the contained games without any installation. The default distribution contains the arcade games Gridlee, Poly Play and Robby Roto and it uses only 20 Mbyte leaving the whole disk for your roms. http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/cd-readme.html
Games Knoppix
Review http://www.linux.com/articles/113906
Download http://www.games-knoppix.org/http://gamer-linux.pappapc.com/
and on and on and on. You have heard of Google, yeah?
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Re:This is my single biggest push to free software
It's really all come down to games for me. If my games would all run on Linux I'd be there tomorrow.
this is the reason my desktop is still XP also. it's become not much more than a gaming console. but you'd be surprised how many good, native linux games there are. i was (recently). check out the linux gamers live cd. -
They are porting it
They are porting it.
http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.p hp?storyid=1870
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Re:THAT IS NOT PIRACY
The actions you claim to have done DO NOT fall under piracy (well unless you did them whole boarding a vessel with a cutlass between your teeth), they are fair use actions that your a perfectly entitled to do.
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Re:Physics, the Legal System, and Geography
> First of all, why is there no Mac OS X or Linux client?
Given that they have announced that they are working a linux client the question is: When when will it be ready? rather than why not make one.
(I can't wait personally!)
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Re:Eval version? Listen to customers?
You can always try looking for the CVS installation script...
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Re:It was only a matter of time...
And time for me to eat crow - I've been using Cedega to play it, but I did come across some links that said it worked via Wine. When I googled it, I just grabbed the first one, and it actually said it didn't work when I looked through it.
Here's a better link: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index. php?page=HOWTO+Steam -
Re:Missing the most crucial test
You'll need Win32 Codecs (for vent).
Ventrilo guide using Cedega. I am not having luck with getting ventrilo working under WINE (the sound devices).
Steam guide for CS:S & HL2.
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Check out Cedegahttp://www.transgaming.org/
Costs $15, but well worth it. Also, there are more native Linux games than you might think. Check out http://www.icculus.org/ , http://www.linuxgames.com/ http://www.happypenguin.org/ , http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/ , http://www.tuxgames.com/ , http://games.linux.sk/ , http://games.linux.sk/ , http://www.linux-games.com/ , http://www.linux-gamers.net/
... Of course for me gaming is just gravy, Linux is my ideal OS for actually getting work done. But I find that games run much more consistently in Linux than in Windows, which makes my gaming flings that much more enjoyable when I do have time for the occasional LAN.There are much more games for Windows, so if gaming is your number one reason for owning a PC Linux will probably dissapoint you. If you're like me and gaming is secondary, I think you'll get along just fine.
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Review at Linux-gamers
Linux-gamers have put up a review, if anyone are interested.
Doesn't seem too shabby. -
Don't forget...
... you can get the CVS version of Cedega/Wine/X for free and build it yourself (or better yet, have a nice shell script automate the process of wgetting and building it for you -- you still have to configure the app yourself). AFAIK it's not updated to 5.0, but it's probably worth the trouble. Check out http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Pa
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Re:games?
I resent having to pay again just to play them (with varying degrees of (un)playability) on Linux
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Re:The one reason they forgot:
1. You are using a buggy, most likely power-user oriented distribution.
Arrow keys on mouse scrolling not working? What, are you using Gentoo, and compiling everything with bizarre USE flags?
2. Yes, Windows can be cheaper if you pirate everything, because sometimes its difficult to pirate Linux software, so you'll have to buy it. Sorry if I don't cry a tear for you ;-)
Oh, and you can get a free & legal copy of cedega using this script
http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Pag e
3. You can install Win2k via bootp, too
4. Why should they standardize on update systems? It's not like you'll be running multiple distributions on the same system. Pick one that's best for you (if you are new, than a noob-friendly distirubtion, like SuSE), and update/package management will be easy.
Plus, Windows needs a crap load of stuff to work 'Out of Box'. Of course, you've probably pirated all the stuff you already need, like MS Office, Photoshop, Winzip, etc . . ., so you didn't notice or took for granted that all of that was installed by default on your linux system.
Oh, and if you are running Mandrake, SuSE, or Fedora, all of your drivers (including ATI/Nvidia OpenGL drivers) can be installed automatically via the distribution. No need to go driver hunting, which is a Pain In The Ass on windows. -
Re:Necessary Evil
Starcraft? - Check
Warcraft? - Check
Command and Conquer? - Check
While these games not run "natively" on a Linux box you can use wine in such a way that you wouldn't be able to tell a difference because of how evolved wine has become.
Try SuSE 9.3, it comes with wine and is great about putting icons in a folder under the menu and on the desktop if you want. Once its there all you do is click and it starts.
Oh, and about Half-Life 2... you might want to check this out:
Here
And thats all about using FREE software, you can pay transgaming to give you updates and software to run Windows (directX) games even easier, but I don't really like paying for games AND the ability to play them. -
Re:Images here
The extra buttons on my MX510 work just fine for whatever I want them to in most native Linux games. There's a guide on Linux-Gamers.net that worked for me.
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Time to Push for a few things
1. better Cedega Support - http://www.transgaming.com/
2. native installers - http://liflg.org/
3. Greater development in the SDL world
4. Push for support of
http://www.happypenguin.org/
http://www.linux-gamers.net/
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Re:Let me spell it out for you
Mouse button How-to.
ATI has been notorius for bad drivers. It is hardly surprising that the driver quality lags in Linux. My Nvidia Fx5900 works the same in Doom3 in win2k and Linux. -
Re:Outstanding
Get Linux for gaming, and pay Transgaming (www.transgaming.com) to get your games working on linux.
Price of 1 XP Pro >> Minimum Transgaming Price ($15)
Or build it from CVS, using the very slick, very easy to use WineCVS, avaliable here: http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Pag e
Linux gaming is here, now. Sure, I don't have a huge catalog avaliable.
But I've got the Unreal series, Doom 3, Half-Life 2, World of Warcraft, Eve Online, Guild Wars, Everquest, most every game developed before 2 years ago, and a good portion of games developed since then.
Linux gaming is a far more viable option that Mac gaming at the moment, and I say that as someone with a great deal of Linux and OS X experience.
Don't get my wrong, I love my powerbook. And my mac mini. But for gaming? My AMD64 box with a Geforce 5950 (getting a little dated now, but still quite powerfully) rock. In SuSE 9.3. -
Re:Will WINE be relevant?That depends on who you're talking about, to the typical Emailer/web surfer, Wine is already irrelevant. They can already Email people and surf the web just fine with any number of native Linux programs.
At the other end of the spectrum though, you will have large companies that have a pile of internal applications that run exclusively on Win32, making a move to Linux extremely difficult or largely pointless if they needed to use QEmu/VMWare on every PC just to run their internal applications. This is where Wine really shines, for applications that are needed, but have a low chance of being ported to Linux, and for which no native application exists. In the future they may decide to rewrite the applications to be native to Linux, but the chances of doing that as a part of the initial transion are low, as the time required to develop and test such applications is generally non-trivial.
I think in general, Wine is one of the catalysts for Linux adoption, which, ironically, will at the same time will cause it's own irrelevance at an accelerated rate. Without Wine, Linux adoption would be much slower than it is right now, even if only initially, people like to stick with what they're familiar with. Every person I know who has tried out Linux (including myself), has attempted to run the programs they used to use under Wine. I can also point out that they usually find native applications that replace the functionality of the programs they were running under Wine. I certainly did, and I no longer have a use for Wine, I've been running Linux exclusively for about 2 years now.
The one sticking point for a lot of users is still games however. Few Win32 games will ever be ported to Linux, and finding native games that can act as a replacement can be very difficult except for some of the most popular games, for example, the Civilization series => FreeCiv. Not to say that there aren't any games available for Linux, but if there was no Wine, the list would be significantly shortened, and many of the games that people want to play have no equivalant.
I don't think Wine will ever be completely irrelevant, but as it gets better, it will drive itself that way.
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directx 9
Why is no one talking about this.
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Re:Screw WineX, Cedega...
You know you can get it from CVS without the GUI for free fight? Here's a script that does it all http://cvscedega.linux-gamers.net/WineCVS.sh
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Re:The problem with Cedega
Why pay when you can use cvscedega? http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/art
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Re:Wrong Games
"HL2 runs just as well through cedega"
LOL! Your definition of "just as well" is apparently 20 minute level loads, with a solid 5 fps (my GF4Ti4200 / 1.6Ghz / 512 DDR ram runs it at a playable 25 fps on windows). Read this review of halflife 2 under cedega. I'll post a quick excerpt that summarizes it for you:The graphic looked pretty raw and 'edgy', gameplay wasn't smooth, the sound skipped every now and then. I opened the options again and reduced averything to 'low' or 'medium' were available. After applying the changes (which worked this time), it felt a little smoother but reducing graphic options didn't really help the raw look. After playing a while, I experienced a sudden drop in fps, I activated the fps-display to check and indeed, I've been to 10-20 frames the moment any NPC or another moving object came to view. I restarted HL and I'm able to reproduce this behaviour every time: Runs ok in the beginning, even if the framerate is far from beeing stable, at 30-70fps and after a while the framerate drops to the above mentioned 10-20 fps.
"The latest games are being added to cedega support"
Cedega is not the solution, stop hailing it as one."The latest games are...being ported to Linux."
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Re:Avoiding to piss off their consumer base?
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Re:Cedega questions
Opensource? Uhh.. done: transgaming.org. No binaries, but this script makes things a snap.
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Re:I wonder if the hardware specs are the same...
According to Linux-Gamers.net, Timothee Besset of ID software said about the linux port, "I'm getting surprisingly good performance compared to the Windows version".
This is great timing too. ID release the Linux client only 2 days after my girlfriend gave me Doom 3 for my birthday! -
Re:Two things to note:
Here's a download for a tarball that has no installer or Windows files "to pick out"
http://0day.icculus.org/ut2004/ut2004-ECEBonusPack .tar.bz2
Also Linux Gamers are working on getting this into a Loki Installer, hopefully we'll see it early this weekend -
Cedega
I downloaded the Windows demo earlier this week, in the hope of getting it to run on my (somewhat rubbish) PC. Of course, my games-only Windows 98 installation turned out to be somewhat insufficient - while the demo installed, it refused to run. Some hex-editing of the Doom3.exe as recommended for the full game turned out to be worthless, making it crash immediately after launch.
So, I decided to give Linux a try. I found a clever shell script for downloading the latest Cedega from CVS, and gave that a try. It worked brilliantly.
Absolutely no visual glitches, no audio glitches, and completely, utterly and boringly stable. Only criticism was that the frame rate was rather low, but I'm not surprised - my PC's below minimum specs processor-wise (1.1GHz Athlon), although merely low-end graphics-wise (128MB GF4Ti).
It'll be interesting to compare the performance of the native client with the running-on-Cedega one - I really wonder how much processor time Cedega takes to do all its API-translation thing.
As for the game? It's ... Interesting, but highly derivative. Pretty atmospheric, and an intriguing engine - but gameplay was rather dull, and the poor sound-effects really didn't help. Footsteps sounded horrible and far too repetitive, likewise a lot of the other sounds. Plus the repetition wasn't confined to the audio, with way too much scripting and linearity...
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Re:Or you could go the MasterCard approach...
Ive got a MX-700, and I didn't have to do anything to use those, the only ones that need work are the side buttons.
You could try this:
http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/arti cle.php?articleid=46
After glancing over your post again in preview, I think you mean remap them to do something else, which I don't think is possible. It looks as if those buttons send the same signal as the mouse wheel, so there is no way to remap them. -
ATI Radeon 9200
ATI Radeon 9200 might be the best card for OpenSource use. I bought myself a Apple iBook laptop because of the ATI Radeon 9200 GPU.
The only thing I didn't buy was the WLAN card for the iBook. I think it is a unsuported Broadcom (crap) WLAN chip.
The iBook 12" with ATI Radeon 9200 is a nice laptop with Linux.
Looking forward to try the new XOrg X11 Server Release 6.8 with my ATI Radeon 9200.
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Re:you mean like...
by the way, how well does doom 3 run under wine?
*Does 5 minutes of research*
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Re:Just Tried WineX...WAKE UP!
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Re:A couple of questions...I set up MDK10 w/ cvswinex for my daughter's computer. She was able to run Pajama Sam, but not a couple of her other games. So it's pretty much a crap shoot when seeing if a game is going to work with winex or not. However, that's not to say that we haven't seen significant improvements with Winex 4.
Btw, if you want to get cvswinex up and running, follow the instructions at linuX-gamers.net
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Half Life for FreeValve has put a lot of work and bug fixes into their internet gaming platform, Steam. It's not perfect, but it's working pretty well these days. As part of their promotion, you can now get Half-Life for free by downloading and registering Steam.
If you haven't played Half-Life yet, it's a great way to try it out (especially since stores still seem to be selling it for $30).
If you are into the online games, that means you can also play Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, Team Fortress Classic, or, my personal favorite, Natural Selection.
I haven't tried it, but you can also try installing steam under Linux, using WineX