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WebTV/MSNTV Virus Dials 911
Semji Rkim writes: "Though not the first virus to direct modems at 911, ABC News is reporting a bug in WebTV (Now branded as MSNTV) units which causes the infected unit to hang-up and dial 911. The virus spreads via email and Microsoft officials are looking into how it is able to replicate and also control the modem. Affected users are advised to delete the email and call Microsoft at 1-800-469-3288."
Sweet
This is excellent news. It should affect only Linux users, who should have the cops called on them anyway.
Cunning linguists
Effected users are advised to delete the email and call Microsoft at 1-800-469-3288.
:-)
I wonder how they will get charged
fp!
Microsoft actually has a support phone number? I wonder how much that costs per incident.
This can't be true. Microsoft just spent a whole month focusing on security. There must be some mistake.
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That's good enough for me!
F is for firsty,
That's good enough for me!
Firsty firsty firsty ENDS WITH POST!
Now only if i could come up with some witty comment for this to be modded up to 5, funny. oh well.
Tying up 911 lines costs lives. In many jurisdictions you can be fined for prank calling 911, especially if you are a repeat offender. WebTV users would be well advised to be very careful with their email until this problem is resolved.
I read the internet for the articles.
Lol
"911, what's your emergency?" "I've got a Microsoft product in my living room!" "What?" "I've got a Microsoft product in my living room! AIIIIGH!"
This tagline is umop apisdn.
It's not a virus!
It's just the poor MSN infected boxes crying out for help!!
I stole this Sig
Doesn't that figure? A piece of hardware that surely no one can work on and it's open to this kind of attack. Can they even upgrade the firmware within a reasonable amount of time over a modem connection?
I prefer a void in conversation to a vacuous one.
I don't know how many of these exist in the wild, but I know someone at 911 who isn't going to be happy at all.
How are users supposed to get the phone number for Microsoft Technical Support if they can't get online?
sig.
When 911 operator answers, the virus plays a wav file, in the voice of Stephen Hawking's voice thing:
"Help Me. I have Web TV. Help Me"
"Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
Any knowledgeable hacker knows about ATH0, it effects around 50 percent of 56k/33/28 modems.
With this, I was able to hang up peoples connections and even make them dial phone numbers, you send the modem commands and because of a bug, the modems obey the commands.
Its not a virus, Its something thats been going on for years, its an old trick/exploit.hack
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
that a virii could hack a MSN/WebTV unit *and* propagate itself to other MSN/WebTV users.
Microsoft advises affected customers to delete the email and call 1-800-469-3288.
Suggestion for next iteration of virus: dial this number instead.
I guess they never said trustworthy phone dialing.
"That's the sort of blinkered, philistine pig ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage."-Monty Python
- Insert generic "HELP, I'm using MSNTV, HELP!" comment here -
If (incredibly hypothetical?) the guy/gal who wrote this virus gets caught, can he/she be fined/jailed for each and every call made to 911? If so, how long would you be in jail for/how much would you have to pay?
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From the article: Technicians are advising victims to "hard nuke" their unit -- in other words to reset the machine by entering a new code.
What does that mean, exactly? How would entering any type of "new code" besides a software upgrade protect the box from being hit again?
Microsoft IS trying to police our use of their products! "Those reports say that once the infected attachment is opened, the WebTV shuts down, reboots, then calls 911. Several people have reported this happening and then having a police officer show up at their door. "
Change it so it makes Windows PC's open a browser window of Goatse!
This is bad, because 911 services cost real taxpayer money. The question is: can Microsoft be held liable for wasting my taxpayer dollars because of their product's flaws?
None of this will be possible once you all surrender minute-by-minute control over all your computing devices to Microsoft. Duh.
314-15-9265
If I get my hands on the people responsible for this, they're going to need to call 911!
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Whats black, blue and green and doesnt like sex?
The Girl Scout locked in my basement.
Whats the worst part about having sex with a six year-old?
Getting the blood out of your clown suit.
Whats the best thing about getting a hand job from a five year-old?
That little hand makes your thing look really huge.
Guy comes home from work to find his girlfriend sitting on the porch, crying.
Whats wrong, honey?
Im leaving you! I just found out youre a pdophile!
Pdophile? Why, thats a pretty big word for a ten year-old.
How can you tell when your sisters on her period?
When your dads dick tastes like blood!
Two pdophiles are lying on a beach tanning, one turns to the other and says, Excuse me, youre in my son.
What is the sickest sound you hear when fucking a nine year-old?
Her hips snapping!
What is the best sound you hear when fucking a 13 year-old?
Her hips snapping!
Whats 18 inches long, blue, veiny, and makes a woman cry?
Crib death.
How could the mans seven year-old son tell that his dad had fucked his eight year-old sister? His dads weiner tasted like blood!
Watson returns home to find Holmes in bed with a child. He shouts, Is this some sort of a schoolgirl?
Holmes replies, Elementary, my dear Watson.
So I was having sex with my girlfriend, and I decided I wanted to get kinky and try and do her in the ass. So I slipped around back; she looked over her shoulder at me and said, My, how presumptuous of you. I said, Presumptuous? Thats a big word for a ten year-old.
Two guys are walking down the street when a beautiful woman passes. The first guy says, Damn! Id love to tear her clothes off, do her in the rear, smear my fces all over her, slice off her breasts, chop her into little pieces, put her in a garbage bag and toss her into the river!
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First guy says, Whatre you? A fag?
A kindergarten teacher is asking the kids what their father does for a living. All the kids answer except for Little Johnny. The teacher asks Little Johnny what his Dad does and Johnny replies, My dad is dead.
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A guy calls in sick to work.
Whats wrong? asks the boss.
Im sick, the guy replies.
You sound all right.
No, Im really sick. Believe me.
Listen, you were fine yesterday, and we have a lot of work today. I want you in here. You cant be that sick!
Dude, I just banged my sister. Dont tell me Im not sick.
A little girl accompanied her father to the barbershop. While her dad received a haircut, the little girl stood next to the barber chair, enjoying a snack cake. The barber smiled at her and said, Sweetheart, youre going to get hair on your Twinkie.
I know, the little girl replied. Im gonna get tits, too.
An older man and a small boy walk hand in hand through the woods.
Boy: These woods sure are spooky!
Man: You think youre scared, Ive gotta walk out of here alone.
Whats the difference between Neil Armstrong and Michael Jackson?
One walked on the moon, and the other rapes little boys.
Has anyone read Michael Jacksons new book, The Ins and Outs of Child Rearing?
Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and a golden delicious apple?
A: I dont cum all over the golden delicious apple before I take a bite out of it.
Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and my girlfriend?
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9M8EaAZ6P5 Post #536
Kinda makes you ache for a phone-firewall, doesn't it? Heh.
Hmm I could block 911 & telemarketers...
"Derp de derp."
can we get one of these puppies released which instead of calling 911, call's the white house and says "Bush is an idiot!"? :)
first post worth reading!
HAPPY TROOOOOOOLL TUUUUUUESDAY
From the time I was about ten, I noticed that there was something different about me but couldn't quite place it. I had had a few boyfriends but in reality, to me they were no more than friends and most of the time when I went out, the thought of having to put out for them was disgusting. I only really had one close friend that I could confide in almost anything but Emily's family had moved to Florida and when I was fifteen and we lost touch with each other. Growing up in the small town of Moberly Missouri, there was not much to do but at the mature age of ten, Emily and I found plenty of girl things to get into. Over the years we had our first periods around the same time, we played practice kissing, skinny dipped at the pond together and eventually by the time we were thirteen or so, we discovered how to pleasure each other. Secretly, I had developed a crush for her but I never told her and I would never share those feelings with her or anyone else.
During high school, I noticed that I would check out and sometimes fantasize about some of the other girls in school. I didn't consider myself to a lesbian but I did secretly check out other girls. I would try and catch a glimpse of some of the prettiest ones when we were in the showers or at sleepovers. A couple of times when I'd be at a sleep over or when a friend stayed over at my house, I'd make sure I would steal a copy of Penthouse from my Dad's stash so that we could look at them, giggle at some of the pictures and get the conversation of talking sex started. I had a nice room with a twin-sized bed and whenever anyone stayed over, they would have to share my bed which was not unusual I guess and that's when I would break out the magazines. My secret plan was to see how excited the other girl would get. I would never let on that I even considered being with another girl. I guess I was more afraid that word would get out that Rose was a lezzy.
Sometimes during those sleepovers I would pretend to be asleep and position myself so that my night gown or oversized T-shirt that I often wore for bed rode up my waist enough so that my bare pussy or ass was exposed. Or I'd find ways that I could expose my bare breasts in such a way that it didn't look like I was doing it on purpose. I got off on teasing my sleep over friends and no one ever knew the better. Those high school days far gone now and all through college I pretty much worked my little part time job and dated only seldom.
After high school, I attend Columbia and got an undergraduate in business. I had finally found a job and was able to move out my parents place. Not that they were all bad or anything, just that I'm 22 and it was time to be on my own. I landed a job with an advertising firm and that would mean I had to move to Detroit Michigan. It was a far cry from Moberly Missouri. I guess you could say I was moving to the big city. I didn't have a boyfriend and my social life was practically zero so I was looking forward towards the move. I got settled in my entry-level advertising position at the agency and found that it was difficult to make friends around here. Most people commuted to work and after work most would want to get going home. I had a 40 minutes commute as well so by the time I got home, I wasn't in any mood to socialize anyway. I spent a lot of evenings and weekends alone.
So here I was in the big city. Tonight, instead of heading home I thought I'd drop in at the local bar, "The Dugout" and see what was going on. I didn't want to be alone tonight, since it was Friday night. I found out about this place from some of the girls at the office, they'd come here for lunch sometimes and I had gone with them on occasions. I noticed a familiar face at the dartboard and struggled to remember where I had seen her before. She came up to the bar and noticed me right off. "Rose Brooks?" she inquired.
"Yes, that's me" I replied still racking my brain as to where I had seen her.
"Remember me? I was in line with you when I was renewing my drivers license, Ann Andrews.' She reached out her hand to shake mine. "Yes of course, I remember now, I was changing my Missouri license to a Michigan one. Wow, that was about three months ago, I'm surprised you recognized me." I said.
"Well Rose you're not easy to forget, practically every guys' head in that place was turned including some of the woman." She said kidding around. "Oh, well thanks for the compliment but I'm not all that!" I said a little flattered. "Hey can I buy you a beer?" she asked. "Sure can" I replied in my mock Southern drawl.
Ann was meeting some friends for a few drinks after work before heading home but she had a call on her cell phone that no one could make it. She was about to leave when she recognized me and decided to come over and say hello. We had a few beers and tried to talk over the loud music coming from the jukebox. Hey have you eaten?" she asked. "No but I'm starved" I told her. "In that case I know a great little place in Greek Town that has the greatest salads and the most sinfully delicious desserts, how about if you join me, it'll be my treat." She said. I was pleased she invited me since I could use the company. I liked her and I had been enjoying her company from the first moment she came over to say hello.
We took a short ride on the people mover and got off in Greek Town. So there we were in a quaint little Greek restaurant, shuffled back in a cozy little corner, sharing each other's salads and huge desserts, sipping Greek coffees and talking as two new friends would when they were getting to know each other. Ann was a little on the wild side and really funny with some of her stories. She was older me, thirty she said, she was fun to be around and she was certainly very attractive. She worked as a Para legal downtown and as a result; she was dressed to the nines. She was defiantly a classy lady and she had certainly made an impression on this twenty two year old small town girl.
Ann had long black hair just past her shoulders. She was about 5'6," about two inches taller than me with her heels on. She was about the same weight as me maybe a little lighter. I weigh 125 lbs tops on a good day as I call them. She was wearing a dark blue business suit. The usual conservative looking jacket and skirt outfit that someone in her line of work would wear and she wore her tailored skirt just above her knees. High enough to get your attention but low enough to still look professional. To top it off, her nails were perfect and her white frilly blouse fit loosely under her jacket. She was a knock out by any standards but I was surprised that compared to me, she was flat as a board. I think I had little tits like hers when I was twelve. Not that it's that important but since I have a nice set of 36c's, I tend notice these things. My tits are my best assets. Apart from our breast size differences, I think we're about the same size and I was thinking how sharp I'd look in an outfit like hers at the office. Anyway, she seems to have plenty of confidence and charm. I admire that in a person. She told me that she had completed her masters three years ago and had landed the Para legal work. During that time she had married and divorced not really knowing why she even married the guy in the first place. After the divorce she managed to save a few dollars for a down payment and bought a nice condo in a high-rise apartment complex overlooking the Detroit River and the city of Windsor in Canada across the river. In any event, she was single, attractive, had a good job. She was the sort of image I had for myself.
"I don't know" she sighed; I just haven't had the time or desire to date guys since my divorce. My hours at work are long and by the weekend, I'm burned out." She said. "I need to get out more," she added almost whimsically. Ever since my divorce, to be honest with you Rose; I've had bad taste in my mouth when it comes to guys. I'm thinking that most of them are assholes. Apart from work and the odd night out with the guys at the office, I usually just stay home."
"How about you Rose? Do you have a boyfriend?" she asked. "Not right now." I answered. "Actually I haven't met anyone to hang out with yet since I've moved here." I told her. I told about Moberly and some things about past boyfriends and she looked genuenly interested in what I had to say. I was really enjoying our time together. "Holy smokes!" Ann said. "I need to get home and let Kramer out for his walk, I can't believe we've been here for almost three hours, where did the time go?"
"Kramer?" I asked, "Ya Kramer, that's my Great Dane, he's about the closest friend I have these days," she said. "Actually, now that I think of it, next to my Dad he's the only other male I've been able to depend on" she said kidding. "Well I guess I better be going" I told her, "I'm so sorry for keeping you this long" I said. "Hey no problem, it's only eight o'clock, if you like, why don't you come over and meet Kramer and we can watch a video. I'll get you back to your car later, what do you think?" She asked.
I was delighted and I think it showed it on my expression when I blurted out a resounding "Ok." Ann paid the check and I trailed behind her as we left that quaint little place. Walking behind her on our way out I caught myself stealing glances at Ann's ass. Old memories of fantasies gone by flashed through my mind and I quickly tried to change my thoughts. After all, this is the first friend I've met since I moved here, I don't want to blow it and have her think I'm weird or something..
We jumped back on the people mover and rode a couple of stops near her building. Within a few minutes, we were standing in front of two of the nice buildings, fairly new on the riverfront. She picked up her mail, we went up the elevator to her unit, and she slipped the key in the door. Of course Kramer was all over her barking and wagging his tail. He was a beautiful big black Dane. He liked me as I petted him and of course the first order of business was to get him out for a walk. We stopped by the corner video store on the way back to the apartment and Ann went in and selected Pretty Woman and another one that she told me was a surprise while I waited outside with Kramer on his leash.
Ann's apartment was decorated in contemporary black leather sofa and love seat, glass tables' abstract works of art, a big screen television set and an expensive stereo system. She was doing pretty well for herself, I hoped to be as comfortable as her in a couple of years. "Make yourself at home Rose" Ann said as she put away Kramer's leash. I'll make some popcorn get some drinks. How about some red wine?" she asked. "Sure" I said.
Ann came back with the drinks while Kramer settled himself down on the floor at my feet. "He really likes you" Ann said. "He's a very gentle dog isn't he" I commented while petting Kramer behind his ears. Ann handed me my drink and she settled down on the sofa next to me. "Well isn't this nice? "Ann said. "I never had a sister and now that we know each other a little better I think you're pretty cool." I was an only child so I never had a sister either, and I think you're pretty cool too." I told her. "It's settled then," she said, "lets be sisters!" With that we sipped of our wine and then Ann moved over to me and gave me a big hug. "There, it's official" she said. The hug seemed innocent enough, sort of sisterly like but she seemed to linger the hug just a little longer than I would have thought, or did I just think it was longer than it really was. When she had moved closer to hug me, our thighs touched and rather awkwardly we managed to embrace so that I could feel her small breast on mine. For an instant I was surprised but secretly I enjoyed it. Ann moved away after our hug and now we were both sitting so that our thighs touched and I could smell her scent. "Cheers" she said as we raised and drank from our glasses again. "Easy sweetie, that's not grape juice you're drinking." I had downed a big gulp, "Opps! I forgot. I guess I'm a little thirsty." I said.
Ann slipped the video into the VCR; we ate popcorn and sipped wine for the next hour and half. Between the both of us, we went through two bottles of Merlot. I had gotten up to go pee a couple of times and I knew that I had had a few too many. Thank goodness it was Friday and I didn't have to work tomorrow. Around midnight I could see that Ann was about as wasted as I was because she walked right into the bathroom while I was peeing, laughing and giggling and she spilled her wine on my hair and the front of my t-shirt. "Oh shit!" she says "sorry" and with that she started to dry me off with a towel which just smeared it worst. "Don't worry about it," I said and I got up laughing as I pulled my pants up. Ann sat down and started to go pee feeling awkward I went back to the living room. Ann was defiantly feeling no pain. She came back from the bathroom to flop down on the sofa beside me but tripped over my feet, got off balance and landed on me instead. My right hand grabbed her left breast in an effort to break her fall and she fell on my lap with her face on my neck and her right hand on my chest. We were both laughing so hard that we just lay there for a few minutes trying to catch our breath. I realized that her hand was on my breast and that I was holding Ann in a close embrace. "Is it time for another sisterly hug again?" Ann asked. "I think so," I said. With that Ann held me closer, she let her hand remain on my breast and she nibbled on my neck. "Listen Rose, I don't think you should drive home tonight, you're a little wasted." Ann whispered in my ear."
"You can stay here tonight and we'll get your car in the morning." She said. "I think that's a good idea, never drink and drive." I slurred, all the while I was secretly enjoying her warm slim body against mine. My secret pleasant moment was interrupted when Kramer tried to get up on the sofa with us, thinking it was time to play. Kramer got up on his hind legs and licked both our faces, then he nestled his snout against my sensitive and already wet crotch. He pushed his snout all the way up my hiked up skirt and at first I was a little startled but then I relaxed and he began to sniff Ann's crotch. "Watch out for Kramer, she said kidding, "he's like any other guy, he loves pussy and he has the tongue to do it with!" Ann said as we both looked and laughed hysterically at Kramer. Then out of the blue, Ann asked, "Have you ever had your pussy licked?" I was a little taken by surprise, I hesitated then replied, "well yes once or twice I guess" Still on top of me, Ann looked at me and asked, "by a guy? The truth was that I had only been licked once by a guy and I didn't want to tell her that Emily and me had licked each other for over a year but she didn't need to know that. She sensed a little aprehension and I answered, "yes of course by a guy"
"You don't know what you're missing sweetie. Girls can not live on cock alone." Little did she know just how little of cock I don't get! I thought.
Ann shifted off of me slowly commenting how comfortable she was laying on top of me. "Your tits make a perfect pillow, I'm so jealous" she pouted and then looked down at her own little breasts saying "maybe one day they'll grow up to be big and busty too. "I like them just the way they are. I think you're a very sexy lady." I said to her to my surprise. I knew the wine was allowing me to say what I really wanted to say. "Do you really think so? She asked, "Yes I really mean that" I told her. "Hey we better get that stain off of your blouse before it dries, let me soak it" she said while unbuttoning my top. I untucked my blouse and helped her take it off. I'm not sure whether I looked to eager or I realized that the wine stain was going to ruin my blouse if we didn't do something about it, in any event there I was in my bra wearing only my skirt and stocking feet. "I wish I was as big breasted as you" she commented. Let me try your bra on." She asked. "You're kidding right?" I said. "No way"
"Ah come on, let me try it on, I'll stuff it, then we'll see how nice I could look!" Ann said. With a frown on expression on her face, undid her blouse and took it off. Now she was standing just inches away with only her bra, skirt and panties on. "There" she said, "now you won't feel too bad, we have our tops off." Ann was right, she was practically flat but to me she was very sexy. "Hey we better pre soak your bra as well." She said as I looked down and noticed the wine stain had gone right through. "Do you have something I can wear Ann?" I asked her nervously. "Well since you're staying the night you might as well come on back to the bedroom and we can pick something out." I followed Ann back to her room and looked at her wide array of under wear and clothes. I picked a nice pair of satin pjamas but I was a little unsure as to where to change. Ann began to strip down and get into her pjamas and that opened the door for me to go ahead and strip. I faced away from her but she her naked through the dresser mirror. She turned and saw me as well and commented how beautiful I looked. I told her I told her that I thought she was pretty attractive looking as well.
I could feel my pussy heating up and knew that we would end up in bed together. I was really hot for her. It had been a few years since I was fifteen with Emily but those old desires were back in full force. "So, you can crash on the sofa and have back problems or worst still, have Kramer pounce on you all night or you can crash in here" she said. Her bed was a large king size bed and it surly looked much more comfortable than the sofa but then again, if I slept in here I did she mean she would take the sofa or stay in here with me. I was hoping that she meant to stay so I replied "I'll crash in here if you don't mind."
"I was hoping you'd say that" she purred, and walked up to me wearing only her panties and put her arms around my neck. She was inches away from my face and she kissed me gently on the lips. "Are you sure you made the right decision?" she whispered. "Yes, yes I believe I did." I confirmed to her.
By now my thoughts were on making love to this woman. I only ever did anything with Emily, not an experienced older woman. I wanted it to happen and I was ready. I didn't need to make the first move, she had already done that. All I had to do was make it happen. God I wanted her and I was ready.
Ann proceeded to kiss me and pull me close to her and my legs felt weak and limp. Her tongue probed to enter my mouth and her hands moved to feel my 36 C size breasts. What she lacked in breast size certainly was made up in talent and expertise. "You've done this before haven't you Ann?" I asked. "Yes, a few times."
"Oh Ann" I moaned "please don't stop." Ann moved her tongue deep in my mouth and pressed her top naked body into mine. "God I had never felt this way before." I told her. "Only a woman can understand how to love another woman." She told me. My legs were weakening from under me and I was so horny.
Ann was a gentle aggressor as she walked me to the bed. "Are you sure you want to do this?" she asked. "Yes, yes, more than anything in the world right now, yes please make me cum." I begged her. Ann stripped off her panties and I did the same. We kissed and licked each and every inch we could of each other's needing bodies. I didn't know what to do but nature did take it's course. I pushed my fingers into her hot wet pussy and she did the same to me. God I wanted her deep inside me. I wanted something deep inside me as I thrashed on the bed ready to cum any moment. I was on fire as Ann was working every inch of my hot flesh with her fingers and mouth. I couldn't hold on any longer, I exploded in wonderment as every living organ in my body climaxed then subsided. I was laughing uncontrollably since I had never experienced anything like this before. Ann had the look of a predator after catching her prey and she knew I had willingly and fully submitted to her.
I held Ann tightly as if she might get up and leave me. Ann moved down my body to lick my tummy and belly button. She moved her tongue down to my wet and tender pussy and began to suck on it. "Ahh I moaned with pleasure. I had never been eaten before and this was more than I could ever imagine. "Just lay there and relax sweetie." Ann said. "Just stretch out and relax. Your sister is going to make you feel sooooo goood." I was in a lustful daze, I felt so relaxed, weak, and vulnerable. My pussy was being lapped up sending shivers of pleasure each time her tongue made a pass up my slit. Ann's hands were caressing my breasts and her lips were planted firmly on mine. What? I thought if her lips are on mine, oh my God who's licking me? Oh my God Kramer! I though. I was too close to the edge to worry about that. God Kramer was good! His tongue was long, smooth as silk and moved slow and deliberate. I arched my body to have all of him in me as my dam holding back my love juices exploded and flooded my pussy as fast as Kramer could lap it up. Ann shifted her body so that her pussy was squatted just inches away from my mouth. I tried to reach her pussy with my tongue but she wouldn't allow me the satisfaction to return the pleasure just yet.
Ann slapped me gently on the ass and motioned for me to switch positions. "Are you ok with all of this so far Rose?" she asked in a concerned tone of voice. "Oh yes Ann, God yes I've never been better." I whispered. Ann laid on her back with her small but sweet tits facing me. I began to do to her what she had done to me. I loved the taste of her small breasts as I sucked one of them taking it all in my mouth. I had breasts like that when I was thirteen I though as my mind flashed back. I licked Ann's body as I slid down to her pussy and for the first time I too could taste a woman's love hole. I knelt down at the foot of the bed licking Ann's pussy like I had been a pro. Ann was squirming in lust and I wanted to give her all I could, throwing all of my concentration and energy into it.
Suddenly I felt pleasure and pressure on ass. God Kramer get away I was thinking to myself not wanting to release my tongue grip on Ann's pussy. "Ahh" I screamed, "Kramer!" he was into me. Kramer found my pussy and with his heavy paws on my shoulders, he thrust his shaft deep into my pussy. I screamed with both pleasure and apprehension. He was huge and I loved him deep inside me. Ann was thrashing wildly under my mouth and me, well I was so hot in lust I blacked out and collapsed on the carpeted floor with Kramer still inside me. I awoke with Ann cradling me in her arms and kissing me on my face and forehead. "I must have blacked out?" I heard myself say. "Just for a few minutes sweetie" Ann said. "We have had us one hell of a drunken party little sister!." An overwhelming feeling of guilt overcame me as thought about what had just happened with Kramer and I began to cry uncontrollably. "Here now Rose, relax honey it's ok" Ann held consoled me. "It's all right Rose, there now my sweet, " she said. "I feel so guilty, not because we had sex together, no that was wonderful, but because I did it with Kramer. The odd thing is that I loved it." I told her while holding back tears. "I'm sorry Rose, I was going to stop him but I didn't. I knew you'd enjoy it and by tomorrow it will be no big deal. I felt the same way the very first time Kramer fucked me but now it's no big deal."
"You mean you fuck Kramer regularly?" I asked astonished at hearing this.
"Yes why not, he's a great fuck and you don't have to put up with the head games some of these guys play." she explained. I thought about it for a few moments and really, it made a lot of sense I reasoned. We got up off the floor, jumped into bed and curled up into each other's arms and fell asleep. I had a feeling that this was the start of great relationship.
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Well, that's a long claim.
We are Legion, for we are many.
-Anonymous Coward
How much longer will it be before unscrupulous 900 number operators enlist people to alter this virus to make it dial their numbers? Given that it takes a month to get a phone bill, the culprits can close up shop and move on long before anyone even realizes there is a probem...
"Chances of RHIC-induced Armageddon are exceedingly rare, but... you never know." - MIT Physicist Bob Jaffe
Why can't the fucking virus writers understand that they need to be portable across platforms? It seems most virus writers these days are targetting Microsoft products without so much as a thought about portability. What about users running MacOS, Linux, Solaris, *BSD or any other operating system? What about users who don't even have a modem? And what about users in other countries where the emergency number is different from that in the US? This virus is buggy as hell, I wouldn't want it if my life depended on it! (pun intended).
I can somehow imagine a frustrated kid making a virus "for fun" or "because I can". But this is *evil*!! And stupid, not to mention! What if someone close to him dies due to his crime?
"It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful." - Anton LaVey
M$ sends an automated voice message out to all their subscibers. Either that or make all the access numbers just play this instead of sending any actual data.
"Services will not be availiable today because of a virus that affects webtv users. The virus takes control of the webTV modem and causes it to dial 911. Please unplug your webtv unit from the phone line until we can fix the problem. Please call 555-1212 if you suspect your webtv has been affected"
Clean up your mail servers. Install something to filter out the virus and any varients. Even the least tech savvy people will understand "It dials 911" and "Unplug your webtv"
Just some advice.
--toq
'All your modem are belong to us.'
Next thing you know, WebTV will be dialing 1-900 numbers and Microsoft will try and pick up the profits. Just another reason to go broadband.
We're Doomed
See the Digital Sky is falling! So that thread has been validated. Sure it ain't a pacemaker, but it is an appliance, and clogged 911 circuits could cause serious life threatening damage.
There's an argument to be made that having a Microsoft product in your living room could be termed an emergency.
I personally find this alleged virus' behaviour entirely appropriate.
It's just trying to help.
Can't you see that?
Blearf. Blearf, I say.
I called 911 when I was gang-Taco-snotted by the Slashdork crew but the line went dead before I could explain my peril. The last thing I heard was: "Hold on, our emergency dispatch service just migrated to Linux."
In order to be able to pass Hayes commands to the modem, you first have to establish a terminal session to the modem itself; if you can do this, it's already game over.
Otherwise, knowing about ATH0, ATA, ATDT and ATM0 (well, the last is useful if you're dialing late at night and don't want to wake others) isn't so much l33t as having paged through the manual while waiting to get an open line.
OTOH, figuring out that you can down a BBS you don't like by requesting a file named COM1:? That's getting warmer...
Easy does it!
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For those of you not familiar with the US emergency system ;-)
911 is a phone number used in the US to report emergencies (police, medical, etc)
...just have the MSNTV units call the 1-800-469-3288 number directly.
Why don't the people who write viruses ever have a sense of humor?
"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"
How about the bill thats in legislation Here. What if you cause a death by clogging up the 911 lines....would that qualify for the life sentence under the bill?
The virus should call Microsoft Technical Support and not 911. Every WebTV would be calling MS. Now that would be funny!
what about ping? or is that too 733t for you?
Part of the purpose of 911 is to report crimes.
Hacking is a serious crime.
The virus is just calling 911 to report itself.
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if after it dialed it played popular music using only dial tones.
Maybe the rolling stones "Start me up"..
But it have to take the form of "Hi, I am an attachment. Please download me to a local disk, chmod me to be executable, and then run me with administrator privileges, you can trust me, really", seeing as Linux e-mail clients don't have the kind of Mack-truck-sized-security-hole access that Outlook and other MS clients have.
Odds of it happening? Not that likely. Windows is so easy to exploit that my grandmother could probably write a virus and get it to replicate and spread worldwide through Outlook/IE holes. On Linux/UNIX/etc. you at least have to try usually and know something about the system to write a viable exploit.
This, right about the time ax-Microsoftie security snake oil salesman is harping about the dangers to our infrastructure because of the Internet, and when Microsoft is promoting Palladium as the solution to its MUA scripting bugs.
Coincidence? Probably. But geez, you can bet they will spin this to their favor. Instead of apologizing for their incompetence, they will use it as evidence of the dangerous new world we live in, and request us to please bend over for all their new security initiatives.
Our infrastructure is under threat from hacker terrorists! The free world is at stake! Join up at your NET Guard recruiting office now!
As someone mentionned earlier, if this thing ties up 911 some people might actually pay with their lives for this stupid little prank.
Maybe Micro$oft is to blame for the security flaw, but the author of this virus should be severely punished if he is found. impacting life-or-death services like 911 is downright terrorism as far as i'm concerned.
I'd personally beat him up real good and let him get the busy signal while trying to call for help because of his work.
Shame on you, this is the kind of stuff that gives hackers a real bad name. (Even if the target IS a Micro$oft product)
It is now official. Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
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sq8q5Rq1wL Post #540
Why would anyone write something like this... using up valuable 911 phone-time is serious stuff. Those call centers in some places are very taxed and when someone really needs emergency help it may not be available. The creator of this virus could be responsible for deaths, even.
Hello, operator? Give me the number for nine one one!"
if this happened on 9/11, and there was a WebTV in one of the WTC's, and there was a business man reading his e-mail on webtv, and the virus took control of the webtv and called 911, and then the plane crashed into the wtc, would the fireman have arrived quicker, changing history so that an errant virus writer saved the lives of thousands?????? nah.
I don't know the exact in's-and-out's of the webtv e-mail system but back in the BBS days, we used to send each other (amongst friends) DOS TSR's that would be disguised as a trusted executable file for a legit program. The person would run it and hang up their modem used ATH0. And dial out numbers using ATDT. To get rid of it, they would have to reboot using a bootdisk since the TSR would be in their autoexec.bat file. Anyway, the point is that this method of modem-"hacking" is very easy to do and shouldn't be tough to adapt for the modern day webtv.
A part of me actually finds the idea of Microsoft being held liable for the 911 calls pretty amusing. But the reality is that it costs money and unfortunately it could cost lives. I hope all of you people make sure to tell your moms/dads/grandparents/spouses/friends/etc. to disconnect their boxes from the phones lines.
i'd be calling for help if i was using something called MSNTV, because it certainly wouldn't be my choice. maybe the little boxes are simply crying out for help ...
when it rains, it gets real soggy. when it pours, i'm under the tap just _waiting_ for the joy
man this is a funny thread...i haven't laughed this hard on slashdot ever.. :o)
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- Bwana
is that the unit then asks the emergency dispatcher "Can you install Linux on me?"
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"Mmmm... this feels good..." I sighed.
"Shhh!" hissed Hemos. "We don't want Mark to come in here!"
True. Having Hemos's 16 year-old brother walk in on us at that moment would not be good. I didn't think he'd be too cool with finding his 12 year-old brother lying naked with me, holding my 11 year-old dick in his hands. But, in all fairness, my hands were eagerly playing with Hemos's dick and balls at that moment, too.
Hemos's mom and dad had gone to the drive-in, leaving his big brother in charge. In our favor, leaving Mark in charge pretty much guaranteed that we weren't to bother him, and in turn, he'd leave us alone unless we were making too much noise or breaking something. Well, we were being careful to keep quiet because we very much wanted to be left alone.
We were in Hemos's twin bed, snuggled under the covers with our underwear pushed down to the foot of the bed. The only illumination in the room came from the faint sliver of light that crept in under his bedroom door. Even in the shadows I could make out the shape of my friend; about my height, but heavier. (Hell, I was such a skinny runt that everyone was heavier than me.) Hemos had a crew-cut of white-blonde hair, and was only starting to sprout some pubic hair. But, you had to feel for it because what little pubic hair he possessed was as blonde as the short hair on his hea and could not yet be seen by even a minimal distance.
And, I was happily feeling for it, running my hands all over Hemos's slightly larger erection and fondling his larger testicles while he courteously stroked my dick. I could tell that he didn't possess the same enthusiasm for cockplay as I did, unless you count his appreciation for the attention devoted to his member. And I knew that my willingness to satisfy his sexual urges was one of the few reasons he even had me sleep over at his place. But, I didn't let that stop me from finding pleasure in the handling of his meat.
I'd recently had an "introduction", of sorts, to seeing what someone could do with a man's dick with their mouth. While spending the night with my Uncle Jerry a couple weeks before, while I watched in secret, I was treated to a visual display of the intensity and unabashed pleasure that my uncle had obviously enjoyed having another man suck on his cock. From that moment on, I had a yearning that I needed to satisfy. With who was my only question.
I guess it was time to find out.
"I... heard that sucking on it feels even better than playing with it." I ventured.
In the darkness, I could feel a slight jerk of revulsion in Hemos's body.
"Put a dick in your mouth?" he croaked.
"Well, " I countered, my heart pounding with anxiety, "I think adults do it all the time."
"Well, I'm not gonna do it!" Hemos hissed. "That's homo stuff!"
"Yeah." I sighed disappointedly, while still playing with Hemos's dick. "I guess it is."
As I stroked his shaft in a steadier, milking rhythm, I could sense Hemos's breaths getting quicker. His manipulations of my dick began to falter as I could feel his body tense beside me. His hips rocked slightly in time with my pumping of his cock, and I cradled his balls tenderly in my other hand. When any attentions to my own dick has completely ebbed, I knew what was about to happen, so I picked up the pace just a bit more while lending a touch more pressure in my grip. Finally, Hemos's breath caught in his throat, and he turned his face fully into his pillow to stifle the moans that broke free as his cock pulsed and throbbed in a dry orgasm within my hands. I continued to massage him and didn't release him from my grasp until his member had gone fully soft.
"Man," sighed Hemos dreamily after finally catching his breath. "You are so good at that, CmdrTaco."
At least I had something to be proud of, I guess, as my friend gently withdrew himself from me and rolled onto his back.
Even though I was only eleven, the irony of Hemos's words and actions were not lost on me. My sucking on him would have been a "homo" thing, but beating him off was okay. Go figure. Within the few moments I had spent mulling over the irony of the thoughts, Hemos had drifted off to sleep. I slipped out from under the covers and down to the cool floor so I could masturbate without shaking the bed. As I toyed with my own dick, I imagined Hemos's cock in my mouth, wondering if the chance would ever really come. Finally, my own climax washed over me, and I got back into the bed.
I don't sleep real well to begin with, and even worse when I'm not in my own bed. And now, with the thoughts of a dick so close to me, as well as the vivid memories of secretly seeing man-to-man cocksucking pleasure floating through my prepubescent, sex-filled brain, I was not about to fall asleep anytime soon. Lying awake until around 11:30, I finally decided that I needed to do something to satisfy my hungers, or I'd never be able to let it rest. The trick was in finding the guts to follow through.
I knew that whenever Hemos fell asleep, he pretty much stayed asleep. So, since he was sleeping soundly, lying on his back, I took a deep breath and gingerly ducked my head under the covers and scooted down as much as I could to the foot of the bed. That put my head right at Hemos's hip level. I raised my head and upper body to help create a tent over his crotch. Sniffing around, I found the faint scent of young penis flesh. I inhaled deeply, both in the love of the scent, and in an attempt to slow my pounding heart. I opened my mouth wide over the area where I sensed Hemos's dick to be, and lowered my mouth squarely over his soft cock and balls until I could feel his sparse pubic hairs tickling my cheek. I finally had a dick in my mouth! I just wasn't sure what I'd do if Hemos woke to find his "homo" friend in this situation.
I remained like that for a long moment, partially in fear of trying anything more, and partly to savor the moment. I carefully let my tongue start to explore his tender penile flesh, enjoying the texture. Then came the excitement that welled within me as his cock began to respond to my attentions and harden in my warm and wet mouth! Butterflies seemed to explode in my stomach and drown out my heartbeat as I felt his dick get to its full size in my mouth. Concentrating in that dark environment, I found myself beginning to identify the shape of his member by taste. The shaft actually seemed to taste different than the head, and the thin skin of his scrotum seemed to harbor another distinct flavor.
I started to softly suck on Hemos's dick, becoming fascinated at how it just seemed to, well, 'fit' in my mouth... how the head lent itself to the back of my tongue, and how the shaft rested between my tongue and the roof of my mouth. My excitement was so great that my own recently satisfied dick was responding again, inviting me to play. I was sucking a cock, and I was in heaven!
However, within seconds, Hemos seemed to get restless. In fear, I quickly pulled my mouth away from Hemos's candy stick and held still. The covers rustled, and pulled back.
"Whatcha doin'?" mumbled Hemos.
"I... uh... was trying to find my shorts down here," I lied, starting to fumble near our feet. Well, partial lie, because it was a good idea to do so, anyway, and now was as good a time as any.
"Oh, yeah," said Hemos. "Get mine, too, willya?"
"S-sure" I stammered, relieved.
I located the two items of clothing and scooted back up towards the head of the bed. Thankfully, our underwear were pretty easy to distinguish since Hemos wore boxers, and I wore briefs. We both fumbled to put them on in the dark, and then settled back into the bed. I lay stiffly on my back, still harboring some fear that my friend discovered more than he let on, but Hemos simply rolled onto his side, facing away from me, and promptly went back to sleep.
And, here I was again, so close to my fantasies, yet still so far.
And very much awake.
After hearing the clock in the hallway chime midnight, I finally got up to go to the bathroom. Figuring it was late enough not to be an issue, and since even if Hemos's parents were home that they would be in their own bedroom downstairs, I didn't bother to slip on my pants for the short trip down the hall. I walked softly to the bedroom door, and then stepped out into the hallway, illuminated dimly by a bare-bulb night light. I walked past big brother Mark's door to the bathroom at the end of the hall and turned on the light as I shut the door.
Peeing into the toilet, I looked up at my reflection in the large mirror and smiled slyly to myself. I actually sucked on a dick, even if for only a moment! At that moment I was Rob Maldo, secret agent double-O-seven, who could sneak in and suck a dick, and sneak away without being caught!
I flushed the toilet and switched out the light as I headed back down the hall. Slipping past Mark's door once again, the door flew open, and a hand covered my mouth while a muscular arm snapped around my waist and drew me into the room. Squirming in the arms of Hemos's athletic older brother was a waste of effort, and he only squeezed harder until I settled down.
"You'll keep quiet if you know what's good for you,' growled Mark into my ear. "You gonna be quiet?"
I nodded. Mark let go of my mouth and reached over to close his bedroom door, the other hand and arm still holding me firmly with my feet off the ground. I heard something click, and recalled, and not without a certain amount of childish fear, that Mark had a lock on his door.
The room had a yellowish glow from the large lava lamp next to Mark's bed. He took me over to the bed and tossed me face down onto it, kneeling next to me. I thought briefly about trying to get up and run, but to where?
When I felt Mark's hands on me again, I was determined to fight him off, but I was no match for him as he flipped me onto my back and straddled me, sitting squarely on my upper chest, his knees pinning my shoulders and my arms locked between his legs. I gazed up at his lean, muscled torso, his stern blue eyes under a tussled mane of reddish-blonde hair. I could feel the soft fabric of his boxers against my chin.
"Can't get up, can ya?" he said, grinning down at me, all snide and victorious.
I struggled a bit, more out of obligation, but knew it was no use. Mark was just too big for me.
"Whatsamatter?" huffed Mark. "You too weak to fight? Or, maybe you just like laying there, sniffing dicks?"
I started squirming a bit harder, but Mark's legs only clamped tighter. At least he had scooted down a bit, and was no longer suffocating me with his weight on my chest.
"Yeah! Maybe you're a homo-boy who just likes sniffing dicks. Maybe you wanna sniff my big dick?"
I didn't care for where this was going, and I wasn't too comfortable with the tone of Mark's voice. But, I was also not being given much of a choice in the matter. Especially when Mark reached into the fly of his boxers and pulled out his cock.
"Here you are, homo-boy... a nice, fresh big-man dick!" grinned Mark fiendishly. "Ain't it a beaut?"
He held it out for me, then leaned forward and started to rub his cock on my face, tracing my cheeks and nose with the bulbous head. His testicles soon followed his dick through the opening, until they were dangling on my chin, the coarse pubes tickling my lips. Their faint musky scent began to fill my nostrils.
"CmdrTaco's just a little dick-faced homo-boy, ain't he?" sneered Mark, sliding his cock across my face. "I saw you in there, your head under the covers. What were you doing? Giving my little brother a blow job?"
I didn't answer. I was at once shocked at the thought of having been discovered, and confused by Mark's remark. I then guessed that he meant sucking a dick was called a 'blow job'. But... you're not blowing, you're sucking, and-
"You were, weren't you, you little homo!"
It was obvious what had happened; that Mark had looked in on us to find my head under the blankets. I thought I had sensed a miniscule change in the light, but assumed that to be part of my excitement. That must have been what woke Hemos up so suddenly.
"So, maybe you aren't just dick-faced, " he said, rubbing his cock on my face again. "Maybe you're a dick sucker!" He leaned forward, mashing his hairy ball sack into my nose, then pulling back to trace my features again with his member. But, even as Mark taunted me, treating his cock as a threatening weapon, there was something else happening.
He was getting a boner.
And as I closed my eyes, I could feel his cock thickening against my face. I could sense the heat of his hardening dick directly on my flesh. And, I found I was enjoying the sensations of this older cock against my face. There would soon be no way of hiding the fact that I was getting excited, too.
"So, dick-sucker-CmdrTaco... you're gonna suck my dick, now."
My eyes sprung open to see Mark's fully erect cock pointing at my face. While it wasn't huge (I had already seen 'huge' with my Uncle Jerry), it was still big enough to scare me.
And excite me to no end.
"Open wide, homo-boy."
Without another moment of hesitation, or taking my eyes off of Mark's sleek tool, I opened my mouth as wide as I could and watched as he leaned down and slid that beautiful cock into my waiting mouth. I then settled my tongue against the bottom half of his shaft while I could feel the upper half press against the roof of my mouth. Its texture was soft, yet hard; smooth, yet distinct.
"There," he sighed. "Now, you have a real dick to suck on. Now, get started, suck-boy!"
It was so much bigger than Hemos's young dick, I wasn't sure if I could get enough suction worked up to suck on it. It was then that I found out what sucking a cock is really all about: friction.
Mark held the base of his dick to guide himself and started to pump into my mouth, sliding his dick in and out of my salivating lips. He would slip in precariously between my teeth until he was near to choke me, then pull back out until the base of the bulbous head was just close to popping free from my lips, held in place by the suction of my mouth. Then he... we... would do it all over again... over and over... and gloriously over again.
"Oh, you are good, CmdrTaco," he moaned softly. "You suck cock real good."
I don't know about that; it seemed he was doing all the real work. But, I wanted it to be good. I wanted to have this dick in my mouth. And I wanted it again and again. I was definitely enjoying the oral sensations as his near-adult dick worked back and forth in my hungry mouth, and I wanted so much to please him so he would want my mouth again.
Mark placed his other hand on the top of my head to steady me as his thrusts became a little more erratic. His breath quickened, and I could sense that he was trying hard not to ram himself all the way down my throat and choke me. He was making little grunts with each thrust, and I could feel his dick turn to stone in my mouth when, in a mix of fear and excitement, I suddenly recalled what would happen next.
"Oh, baby... oh, fuck..."
Mark's movements got all quick and jerky. I was almost afraid to breathe.
"OHHHH!!!" he moaned, pulling out of my mouth and letting loose with a burst of white goo that seemed to splatter all over as he pumped his dick with his fist. My head still held firmly in his other hand, the warm liquid flew partly into my still open mouth, and all over my nose and eyebrows. I swallowed briefly, not sure whether to gag or hope for more, tasting fully the salty and musky liquid, then opened my mouth once more as Mark stuck his creaming cock back in and worked the thick fluid throughout my young mouth.
I sucked until Mark went soft and withdrew his spent dick. He smiled down at me, obviously proud of what he had done. He finally got off of me (good thing since I thought my arms were going to fall off) and stood there for a moment, an interesting picture with his hands on his hips, and his drained cock and balls hanging out of the fly of his plaid boxers. I just lay there with his juices clinging to my skin, wanting to do it all over again.
Mark bent down and picked up a t-shirt, and proceeded to wipe the remainder of his goo off my face. Finished with that, he tossed the shirt into a hamper and walked over to his bedroom door to unlock it as he tucked his manhood back into his underwear.
"You better get back into Hemos's bed before mom and dad find you here," he said softly.
I reluctantly got off Mark's bed and walked to the door. As I was about to exit, he reached out to stop me briefly.
"You liked that, didn't you, homo-boy?"
I nodded, not sure where he was going with this inquiry.
"Your first taste of cum?"
I shrugged, then nodded again.
"If you're good, maybe I'll let you suck my dick again some time, CmdrTaco. Now, get your ass out of here before I kick it."
I stepped out of the room and felt the door close harshly behind me. I could still taste traces of Mark's cum in my mouth, could still sense the friction of his cock on my tongue. I smiled in remembrance.
I was hooked.
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8SkfFg8wnJ Post #541
Im a little concerned over that so many companies and others are so eager to connect everything including the kitchen sink to the internet. There seems to be enough people stupid and evil enough to hack just about anything to get some fame. The fame they then uses when they start their security firm later on in life.
HTTP/1.1 400
Why bash MS? Has Linux/OS X/*BSD/BeOS rotted your brain to the point where anything mainstream and user friendly is to be feared and loathed. You need to get out and go for a walk. While you're walking consider this:
Almost all the buildings you see have a computer running Windows inside them.
It's my understanding that many communities can fine a person or organization if it's determined that a call to 911 was due to anything other than a real emergency or an honest mistake. So what's going to happen here? Is grandma going to get busted because she opened an email on her WebTV? If this virus becomes widespread and wreaks havoc on the 911 call centers around the nation, perhaps it will signal that the time is ripe to hold software manufacturers liable for the bugs in their products.
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M6OeqOAZyL Post #542
wasnt there viruses that used to call 1-900 numbers?
.. they don't make 'em like they used to.
sigh
i know in some of the suburbs around here (Philadelphia area) they will charge you a "911 usage fee" even if it is valid. 2 friends of mine were playing video games late one night and the guy who's house it was started to have a seizure (they were about 16 then). the guy's parent just sorta freaked and didn't know what to do. the other guy called 911 and the sick kid ended up in the hospital for a few days. about a month later the family got a "911 usage fee" charge and it was something like $250. that's totally insane to me. i know here in Philadelphia you are told to call 911 for almost everything, and they route and log the calls in one system. if it's something like a car breakin then they forward it to the local department. Philadelphia pondered the 922 or whatever system for more casual calls (like a stolen car stereo discovered in the morning), but scrapped it and put all the money into enlarging the 911 system and training the operators to route the calls instead of the upset callers knowing which was the right number for which situation. it kind of makes sense to just have one huge routing system than a few independent groups of dispachers.
anyway, i hope these people get this fixed soon. i would think webTV users are not the most computer literate and things like this just make them hate "those damn machines". besides costing them money, a lot of 911 systems are stretched as is and something like this can really screw them up.
I can't wait til one these virus writers has to call 911 cause "he's fallen and can't get up", but can't get through cause his virus is flooding the phone lines to 911.
This just looks like another ATH0 hack. Check out http://216.239.35.100/search?q=cache:7TqncCwNansC: www.psc.ru/sergey/bgtraq/HARDWARE/ath0DoS.html for more info.
Orange
Back in the days of 2400bps, when modems touted features like "auto-dial," every night when one of my friends made his BBS rounds, the cops would show up at his house.
This went on for days. And no one really put it together until, one night, while listening to the dial-tones coming out the speak of his Avatar 2400 modem, he noticed that anytime the modem attempted to dial an 8, nothing would come out.
And one of the BBSs he dialed started thus:
(8)91-1xxx
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mSsymUXUYS Post #543
Will someone please go and irradiate the whole Redmond area and rid the world of this BS?
Unplug your WebTV from the wall when it's not in use. Then it can't call 911 unless you're using it right then, and you'd notice when your connection was interrupted.
I design user interfaces for a free network management application,
Is this news worthy here??
WAIT!!!!!!! unless this is the front for that ever scrupulous underground hacking cult known as the Lucky Charms... Green Clovers and Purple Mushrooms...
click my heels...
For one thing, I doubt the operators get paid until the customer pays the phone company. In most states, the phone company cannot disconnect your service if you refuse to pay for calls to 900 numbers. The worst they can do is block your access to those numbers in the future...which might be a good thing in this case!
Second, once the complaints came in, the phone company would quickly cease all payments to the operator, and turn their info over to the district attorney's office for prosecution.
Windows XP Shows the Direction Microsoft is Going.
"I've heard WinXP removed the cmd/command prompt."
No, Microsoft didn't remove the CMD.EXE or COMMAND.COM prompt from Windows XP. But Windows XP has reduced functionality, in many ways, not just in the command line. The command line is a big embarrassment because of its limited capabilities, but at least in Win 95 it worked. With every version since then it has worked less well. (There are two kinds of command prompt, and, according to Microsoft employees, the differences between them are not documented.)
The command line prompt sometimes begins to display short file names. Microsoft employees say that Microsoft has no fix, although someone not connected with Microsoft did make a work-around.
Cutting and pasting into a command line program often puts successive extra spaces before each line. Microsoft employees say that there is no plan to fix this.
The fast paste mode that is in Windows 98 is gone in Windows XP. Microsoft employees say there is no plan to fix this.
When using the command line interface, Windows XP doesn't always update the time. After several hours, the time reported to command line programs can be several hours in error.
There is a DOS program called START.EXE that can be used to start other programs. But it does operate the same way as in other versions of Windows. It starts a program, but cannot be made to return control to the command line program as previous versions did. There is no technical reason for this; it is just one of the shortcomings that are allowed to exist.
People often say that DOS has gone away. But Microsoft still calls the command line interface DOS, and in Windows XP Microsoft has added new programs for configuring the OS that work only under DOS.
Sometimes when you press a key while using Windows XP, it is seconds until there is any response. Apparently there is something wrong with the CPU scheduler in XP, because there are a lot of complaints about this in the forums and MS people have said that they are working on it. On one particular fresh installation of XP, on an Intel motherboard with either a Matrox G550 or an ATI Radeon video adapter, it requires 18 seconds to display a directory listing of 94 items. This is apparently related to a bug in the video software, not the adapter drivers.
Something is wrong with the Alt-Tab display of running programs under Windows XP. If there are a lot of programs, not all of them are displayed. The order jumps around in a seemingly random way.
Although articles often say negative things about Microsoft, I've never seen an article that fully documents how bad the situation really is. Microsoft's management is so bad that the company has become self-destructive. For example, Windows XP is spyware. Here is a list of ways Windows XP connects to Microsoft's servers:
- Application Layer Gateway Service (Requires server rights.)
- Fax Service
- File Signature Verification
- Generic Host Process for Win32 Services (Requires server rights.)
- Microsoft Application Error Reporting
- Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer
- Microsoft Direct Play Voice Test
- Microsoft Help and Support Center
- Microsoft Help Center Hosting Server (Wants server rights.)
- Microsoft Management Console
- Microsoft Media Player (tells Microsoft the music you like)
- Microsoft Network Availability Test
- Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Service
- MS DTC Console program
- Run DLL as an app
- Services and Controller app
- Time Service, sets the time on your computer from Microsoft's computer.
- Microsoft Office keeps a number in each file you create that identifies
your computer. Microsoft has never said why.
- Microsoft mouse software has reduced functionality until you let it connect
to Microsoft computers.
These are just the ones I know. There may be others.So, if you use Windows XP, your computer is dependent on Microsoft computers. That's bad, not only because you lose control over your possession, but because Microsoft produces buggy software and doesn't patch bugs quickly. For example, as of July 7, 2002, there are 18 unpatched security holes in Microsoft Internet Explorer. This is a terrible record for a company that has $40 billion in the bank. Obviously, with that kind of money, Microsoft could fix the bugs if it wanted to fix them. Since the bugs are very public and Microsoft has the money, it seems reasonable to suppose that top management at Microsoft has deliberately decided that the bugs should remain, at least for now.
It seems possible that there is a connection between all the bugs and the U.S. government's friendly treatment of Microsoft's law-breaking. The U.S. government's CIA and FBI and NSA departments spy on the entire world, and unpatched vulnerabilities in Microsoft software help spies.
Windows XP, and all current Windows operating systems, have a file called the registry in which configuration information is written. If this one (large, often fragmented) file becomes corrupted, the only way of recovering may be to re-format the hard drive, re-install the operating system, and then re-install and re-configure all the applications. The registry file is a single, very vulnerable, point of failure. Microsoft apparently designed it this way to provide copy protection. Since most entries in the registry are poorly documented or not documented, the registry effectively prevents control by the user.
Note that Microsoft does not support making functional complete backups under Windows XP. Look at Microsoft's policy about this: Q314828 Microsoft Policy on Disk Duplication of Windows XP Installation. Only those who work with Microsoft software will understand the true meaning of Microsoft's policy. Since almost all programs use the registry operating system file, if you cannot make a functional copy of the operating system you cannot make a functional copy of all your application installations and configurations. There are other software companies that try to fix this, but they don't work well, and Microsoft can, of course, break their implementations, as they have often done with other kinds of competitors.
Because the configuration information for the motherboard and the configuration information for the are mixed together in the registry file, the registry tends to prevent you from moving a hard drive to a computer with a different motherboard. That's another implication of the above Microsoft policy. So, if you have a motherboard failure, and a good complete backup, you may not be able to recover unless you have a spare computer with the same motherboard.
Note that Windows XP Professional can support only ten simultaneous incoming network connections. If you want more than that, you must use Windows 2000 server, and pay much, much more. (There is no Windows XP server yet.) Many businesses have very light network traffic; they just move files from staff member to staff member; they really don't need a dedicated server computer. The staff computers could easily handle the load except for this artificial limitation.
Apparently because the Windows XP GUI comes from Windows 98, Windows XP has the same problem with desktop icons that Windows 98 has. The icons sometimes flicker. Sometimes they move themselves around, particularly after the user switches monitor resolutions. Also, sometimes the taskbar settings un-configure themselves, as they do in Windows 98.
Only technically knowledgeable people know how to avoid signing up for a Microsoft Passport account during initial use of Windows XP. The name Passport gives an indication of Microsoft's thinking. A passport is a document issued by a sovereign nation. Without it, the nation's citizens cannot travel, and, if they leave, won't be allowed back in their own country. In Microsoft's corporate thinking, the company seems to be moving in the direction of believing that they own the user's computer. Most people are both honest and intimidated. Apparently about 95% do whatever they are asked on the screen. They give their personal information to Microsoft. They don't realize that, if they feel forced to get a Passport account, they should enter almost completely fictitious information, since the real question is not "What is your name and address", but "Can we invade your privacy". The honest answer to this is "No, you cannot invade my privacy", and the only effective way to communicate that is to give completely fictitious information. Since it is the educated people who have computers, Microsoft is building a database of the personal lives of educated people. Microsoft knows when they connect and from what IP address (which tends to show the area), what kind of help they ask, and information about what they are doing with their computers, including what music they like. It is not known, and there is no way to know, how much Microsoft or other organizations make use of this information, or their plans for future use.
Not only has Windows XP definitely gone further in the direction of allowing the user less control over his or her own machine, but with Palladium, Microsoft apparently intends to finish the job: Microsoft will have ultimate control over the user's computer and therefore all his or her data. Even now, under Windows XP, a recent security patch requires that the user agree to a contract that gives Microsoft administrator privileges over the user's computer. The contract says that if a user wants to patch his or her system against a bug which would allow an attack over the Internet, he or she must give Microsoft legal control over the computer. See this article also: Microsoft's Digital Rights Management-- A Little Deeper. You may need to be a lawyer to take apart the crucial sentence. "These security related updates may disable your ability to copy and/or play Secure Content and [my emphasis] use other software on your computer" legally includes this meaning: "These updates may disable your ability to use other software on your computer." Note that the term "security related updates" is meaningless to the user because the updates have no relation to user security. So, the sentence effectively means that Microsoft can control the user's computer without notice and whenever it wants. That kind of sentence is known in psychology as "testing the limits". If there is no strong public complaint about this, expect to see more and stronger language like this.
This Register article shows the direction Microsoft is going: MS Palladium protects IT vendors, not you. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and Microsoft is well down that road. See this ZDNet article, also: MS: Why we can't trust your 'trustworthy' OS.
Microsoft's self-destructiveness does not mean that the user should be self-destructive. There is no need to apologize for using Microsoft software. The correct solution to abuse is persuading the abuser to stop being abusive. Once I posted to a Slashdot story a link to an article on a web site of mine. By far the majority of visitors from the Slashdot story used Microsoft operating systems. Rather than feel embarrassed because Microsoft is abusive, action needs to be taken to prevent the abuse. If you are against Microsoft abuse, you are not against Microsoft; you are more pro-Microsoft than Bill Gates.
These Microsoft policies mean that any government which wants to be independent of the United States government, and any government which represents itself as controlled by the people, cannot use Microsoft operating systems, or other Microsoft proprietary systems.
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CDlmMWDAkj Post #549
Whoops.
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If I authored this virus, I would *not* think of this as a serious threat to anyone's life. Why? Because it is within Microsoft's power to avert the whole thing by having everybody unplug their boxen if it gets out of hand. This has the potential to be a *big headache* for MS, which could outweigh the outside chance that this would actually be allowed to get so out of hand as to cost lives.
Slashdot 's editors are dickheads
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/etc/fstab file so that it always automounted when plugged in. I was very impressed.
/dev/null, once I find where that actually is.
A Linux user goes back.
By Tony âoekNIGitsâ Collins.
Introduction...
In much of today's online news, we hear of how many people are migrating to GNU/Linux. What we don't seem to hear much of, is users going back to their old operating systems. The reason for this article is to say that I've done just that.
Yes, I've gone back. After three and a half years of trying to make GNU/Linux work on the desktop, I've decided that it's simply too hard for the average home user. Before I go into my reasons for going back, let me outline what I believe an 'average' home user is. Mr Joe Average is someone who wants to install their OS, boot it up, and it works. He wants to be able to upgrade his PC , and have the hardware work in a few short minutes. He wants to read email, browse the web, talk to his mates online, and play some games. Feel free to disagree with me, this is merely how I see myself. Note: I'm not referring to Grandma using Linux, or even my mum using it. I'm referring to average users who know a little about their computer.
Three and a half years; that's how long I've been trying to make Linux work on my desktop computer. Right about now, I'm sure that you are now screaming that I didn't try hard enough, or that I'm just plain stupid. Let me assure you that this is not the case. Stupid users don't doggedly stick at something for three and a half years, trying distribution after distribution in the hope of finding the holy grail of Linux desktops. They give up in less than a few hours of trying to (unsuccessfully) install RedHat Linux. Hear now my sad tale of why Linux isn't suitable for my desktop.
Some background...
The year is 1998. I've had my Windows '95 computer for around six months. Frustrated with the constant crashes, I desperately asked an online mate for help. Even though he was a windows user, he calmly suggested that I try something I'd never come across before...
âoeLinux, eh? Never heard of it.â
âoeOh, it's a free OS that you can download. Apparently it doesn't crash much. Just do an online search for it.â
Armed with this meagre knowledge, I set out on my quest for the ultimate stable operating system. I searched online, and found places where you could even buy copies of Linux! So, I left the comfort of my warm study, and returned forty minutes later with my first Linux boxed set â" RedHat Linux 5.2. After initially balking at the very basic installer (and few false starts), I had it up and running on my lovely AMD K6-233. I even got X working in no time at all. Then the system booted up for the first time.... and it was dead ugly. I had a very stable new OS, but I didn't even want to look at it. I was happy that I had several installed interfaces to choose from, but none of them appealed to me whatsoever. Wanting to download a nicer interface led me to my next problem.
I had absolutely no idea how to even get this nice, stable OS onto the internet! After reinstalling windows and RedHat in a dual-boot configuration, I got the help I needed by using Windows and USENET. Strangely enough, I can still remember the name of the long-suffering person who helped me get RedHat online, but that's another story. After looking around online, I discovered KDE. Only up to version one, it was the closest thing I had to a completely useable Linux system. I downloaded all the KDE packages for RedHat 5.2, only to discover another distro called Mandrake, that came with KDE preinstalled and configured. Back to my local distributor, and I was set.
Mandrake with KDE was exactly what I needed at that stage in my Linux using life, and I stuck with it for over a year and a half. Always seeking the 'perfect' desktop OS, I followed releases from version 5.3 all the way through to 7.0. Eventually I became dissatisfied with Mandrake, and briefly tried a number of other distros until I finally settled on Debian. I was impressed by the simple power, configurability, and the ease of upgrade that is apt-get. I felt good about being among the uber-elite Debian user community. Needless to say, I learned a lot about how to configure hardware under Linux during my time with Debian. I learned to sift through the old HOWTOs on Linux Doc until I found something suitable and accurate, I learned to utilize the power of USENET and IRC. Life was good.
Right now you must be wondering; âoeWhere is this leading? This guy seemed quite happy with Linux!â. True, I was. After a while, I decided I didn't want to have fine-grained control. I wanted something simple. I was getting tired of the 'stable' Debian release being so out of date, and the 'unstable' distribution being so... well... unstable. I got tired of having to recompile my kernel every time I got new hardware. I got tired of using command line to talk to my PC. It was time for a change. I had good experiences years ago with Mandrake, so I figured I'd try it again. As good as Mandrake 8.1 was, it wasn't what I was after. SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional (boxed set) was installed onto my PC instead.
I have to stop at this point, and say that SuSE Linux 8.0 (Pro) is the best Linux distribution that I've ever used. It has an easy installer, reasonable hardware support, and comes with the very good KDE 3.0. The box contains seven CDROMS, one DVD and three decent books that would help even the most inexperienced user get up and going. YaST2 is a decent graphical system configuration tool. When (not if) I go back to Linux, I'll definitely try SuSE again. However, there are quite a number of things that have improve (or change completely) before I'll consider going back. Read on for my brief list of things that must must get better before I'll switch back from the Microsoft camp.
Where GNU/Linux needs to improve...
X11
The X Window System is an awesomely powerful, network transparent graphical subsystem. It's perfectly suited to running applications from remote servers. However, this is NOT what a home user needs. My experience with X is that it's too big, bloated, slow and unstable to be any good to the home user. Most crashes that I ever experienced with Linux have been X's fault. My servers don't run X, and they never crash.
What home users need is something small and fast, so they can run local applications efficiently. I would like to see the X Window System dumped in favour of a hardware accelerated framebuffer, running something like directFB or Qtopia. Home users need a small, fast graphical subsystem, with built in 3d support. BeOS seemed to be on the right track before they went under.
Fonts are truly awful under X. Most distributions ship with appalling fonts, and there is no standard way to add additional (nicer) fonts to the system. Even after extra fonts have eventually been added, many applications (eg Abiword, Staroffice) refuse to use the new fonts anyway. Perhaps the framebuffer-based graphical subsystem I suggested could incorporate decent font support, and use a readable naming scheme as well.
Drivers
While having access to the latest version of the kernel is a good thing for developers, for home users it can be a nightmare. Got RedHat Linux 7.3? Perhaps you run SuSE 7.3 or Debian 2.2. You'll have to download a binary package specific to your distro. (I'm assuming that home users won't change their default kernel, but if they did, that binary package wouldn't even work!) Hardware manufacturers should be able to provide one single driver that works on all minor versions of a major kernel release. This way it would work will all current distros, instead of having to provide multiple binaries or source code. Hardware manufacturers don't want to give out the source, as this often gives away trade secrets about how their hardware is designed.
The solution seems to be to make binary drivers work on a variety of kernel versions. I'm not sure if this is even possible with the way the kernel is designed (I'm no kernel hacker), but it would go a long way toward making Linux more accessible to the home user. Even if the kernel needs to be redesigned to support this, then in my opinion, it should be done. Linux users are always clamouring for drivers... perhaps if the kernel had something like this, it might one day become a reality.
Hardware setup
While SuSE Linux 8.0 gave me some good experiences with hardware detection (such as automatic download of NVIDIA drivers), it also let me down as in this area.
The good: I recently borrowed a digital camera from a mate at work, to take photos of my case mod. Imagine how happy I was when I plugged it into my nearest USB port, and it was automatically configured (as a SCSI device) and mounted! SuSE even added it to my
The bad: Along came my new IDE CDRW drive. At AU$99, I couldn't pass up the purchase. Plugging it in gave me no joy. I was very disappointed that a device so common couldn't be detected and automatically configured under a modern operating system. The instructions on the SuSE support site said to add lines to lilo.conf and reboot. While this is a perfectly acceptable way to get hardware working for a geek familiar with *NIX, I believe that a home user shouldn't have to do more than plug it in. It's an IDE device, it's not that complicated!
The ugly: Once the hardware was finally working (as a pseudo-scsi drive), the next hurdle was to find decent graphical tools to burn and copy CDs. I finally settled on CDBakeOven, an above average KDE application. It burned CDs from data on the hard drive, but for some reason cdrecord (the command line backend) refused to allow me to copy a cd directly. Yes, it was installed SUID root. CD copying is such a basic function nowadays, why is it so hard to do under GNU/Linux?
Software distribution
I'll put this simply. I'm a home user, not a programmer. Why on earth should I have to compile the software I want to use? I know that having the source available is a good thing, but I'll say it again: I'm no programmer. I just want to install software and run it.
This leads to another point. Although having package databases (such as the rpm and deb systems use) is great, there should definitely be seperation between system packages and additionally installed software. There needs to be a standard installer and database for user-installed applications such as word processors, email clients and games, and it should be seperate from the rpm or deb databases used for system software such as lilo, init and cron. This will make it much easier for home users to know what applications they have installed on their PC, and to easily uninstall them if necessary, without knowing some arcane commands and weird package names.
Support
There is a huge wealth of knowledge among the thousands (millions?) of people that run GNU/Linux around the world. If you have a problem, odds are that someone out there can help you, often for free. This is one of the linux platform's greatest strengths. However, Linux users are also its greatest weakness. This may not apply to most of the community, but there is a very vocal minority that gives Linux a bad name. To every Linux user that has ever helped a newbie, I thank you. I have been helped by many a guru, often when I've been asking the simplest of questions. It's the remainder that are a problem.
I once heard a song by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie called Every OS Sucks, where Linux users were described as 'elitist nerdy shmucks'. Sadly this is true for much of the 'community'. Too many consider themselves better than the rest of the world because they run Linux. Can you believe that? It's just a computer operating system, but somehow they think that it makes them better than those people who run systems such as Microsoft Windows! Elitism drives people away, as does saying âoeRTFMâ or belittling people who choose a different distro from yourself.
'Nuff said about that.
So what now?
Well, I decided to go back to a Microsoft platform. Initially being paranoid after reading things about DRM and spyware, I bit the bullet and installed Microsoft Windows XP. Like every OS, it has good and bad points; most of which you can learn about from online reviewers. I'll just point out several things that make me want to keep using it instead of GNU/Linux.
Fast graphical subsystem: Windows has lighting quick graphics, both 2d and 3d. There's no denying it. When I move a window, it refreshes so fast that I don't miss X11 at all. While not quite as nice as some other operating systems, font support is outstanding compared to XFree86.
Drivers: Point and click to install (as a superuser, of course). Windows warns you if the driver isn't likely to work properly, and can roll back to working drivers if you deliberately choose to install one that hoses your system.
Hardware setup: My CDRW worked right away, without a hitch. I am able to drag and drop files from the Explorer file manager to the CDRW icon and they get added to the list of things to burn. A quick install of Nero Burning Rom, and I was able to make a backup copy of my game CDs. (I don't like taking originals to LANs where they can get destroyed or stolen).
Software distribution: All windows software comes in binaries, either with an installer or in a zip file. I hope to never compile an application ever again. Software designed for a different version of windows is 99% guaranteed to run, but if not, there is always 'compatibility mode'. One thing to note, however: Applications designed for single user versions of windows usually only run properly as a superuser, and this includes 3d games. I expect this to be rectified as the rest of the Windows world catches up to a multi-user environment.
I can't comment on the Windows using community yet. I've not yet had a problem that a simple point and click couldn't fix. However, I will say that my original concern with Windows '95 has been addressed in Windows XP. The stability is finally there.
Final Notes
In conclusion, I'd just like to make it known that I haven't completely abandoned the Linux community. My home server still runs Mandrake, and IPCop on my gateway/firewall. There is no way I'd ever put any form of Windows on my server, nor would I ever connect a Windows PC directly to the internet without a *NIX gateway in between. Microsoft has a history of poor security, so I protect myself the only way I know how; using Linux. I will continue to advocate the use of GNU/Linux in the server arena. This is where its strength lies at the moment.
Because of their history of spreading virii, I don't use the applications that Microsoft has provided with Windows XP. My wife and I use Mozilla for web browsing and email, OpenOffice.org for word processing, and Psi (Jabber client) for instant messaging. All of these are true multi-user win32 programs, and are perfectly interoperable with their Linux counterparts.
I expect that the Linux community will have something to say about this article; I welcome comments and constructive criticism. Flames will be automatically sent to the Windows equivalent of
By Tony âoekNIGitsâ Collins
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Qrr1wiptyG Post #550
I had a ctcp command do that on undernet once. Like[1] an idiot, I ran it, and nothing seemed to happen. It had however hung up the modem and dialled 911. I tried it four times. I forgot about it and carried on for about 15 minutes. Then at midnight I heard a knock on the door. I thought maybe a neighbor had some sort of an emergency or something. It was the police. He asked if everything was ok, but wouldn't leave until he saw my mother to make sure I didn't hack them up or something. It was kind of hard to explain that someone on undernet had sent me this command and said that it actually done something else. I wish I could say I learned something from that experience...
[1] maybe "like" is not the best word
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Could this story have anything to do with this one:
Schmidt Predicts Digital Sky Is Falling ??
Shome mishtake shurely?
This came in as a Civil Emergency Message through the National Weather Service this morning:
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
CIVIL EMERGENCY MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OMAHA/VALLEY NE
220 PM CDT MON JUL 22 2002
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Stop the Slashdot Effect! Don't read the articles!
Anyway, I don't know how many times this poor sysop's machine had dialed 911 when attempting to call-back verify 911-1234, etc. And I don't know if anyone ever bothered that first day to see if was smart enough not to dial 011 numbers.
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With that big wad of cash, Microsoft has purchased the numbers 911. The side effect is that people trying to call for help get Buddy, the Microsoft help desk attendant instead of thier local police.
Credits: 70%
It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)
Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.
Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!
Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our governme
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oIuHr7Dvy4 Post #551
The year: 2006
"ABC News is reporting a bug in Palladium (now branded as "MSNPC") which causes the infected machine to launch the MSN Explorer web browser and bring up the Whitehouse.gov website."
Hell, they can't even get a set top box right... imagine what happens when they are in charge of a whole friggin PC!
"To make a mistake is only human; to persist in a mistake is idiotic." Cicero
THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW!!!!
AMERICA, AMERICA
Go starve in your fetid stinkhole of a country!
411 might have been amusing.
911 is just sad.
This now concludes our broadcast day.
Be happy for me!!
I love you all!
No longer a teenager! (but still a lil' kid :p)
thank you for your attention...
carry on your usual bussines
"The majority is always sane, Louis." -- Nessus
http://slashdot.jp
From the article,
This virus only affects Microsoft WebTV/MSNTV units. Windows PCs, Macs, Unix, and Linux machines are unaffected.
Huh!? I thought viruses affected EVERY computer and email client the same! I mean they've never suggested anything different on the news before this?!? Do you mean that when checking my email on Red Hat using Pine I won't get klez or code red???
I stole this Sig
It's great that the virus dials 911. I mean, my local Stonecutter lodgemaster told me only suckers dial 911.
The real emergency number is 912.
*grin*
I wish I had a kryptonite cross, because then you could keep Dracula and Superman away.
So this is the company we're supposed to trust to make the internet more secure with Palladium?
Humorless sig goes here.
.. the exact behavior of this 'virus'? just hangup and dial? or dial again and again and again? dial after every online session?
members are seeing something, your seeing an ad
Not really. Happy 20th! :o)
Happy Troll Tuesday!
Credits: anonymous
"Mmmm... this feels good..." I sighed.
"Shhh!" hissed Hemos. "We don't want Mark to come in here!"
True. Having Hemos's 16 year-old brother walk in on us at that moment would not be good. I didn't think he'd be too cool with finding his 12 year-old brother lying naked with me, holding my 11 year-old dick in his hands. But, in all fairness, my hands were eagerly playing with Hemos's dick and balls at that moment, too.
Hemos's mom and dad had gone to the drive-in, leaving his big brother in charge. In our favor, leaving Mark in charge pretty much guaranteed that we weren't to bother him, and in turn, he'd leave us alone unless we were making too much noise or breaking something. Well, we were being careful to keep quiet because we very much wanted to be left alone.
We were in Hemos's twin bed, snuggled under the covers with our underwear pushed down to the foot of the bed. The only illumination in the room came from the faint sliver of light that crept in under his bedroom door. Even in the shadows I could make out the shape of my friend; about my height, but heavier. (Hell, I was such a skinny runt that everyone was heavier than me.) Hemos had a crew-cut of white-blonde hair, and was only starting to sprout some pubic hair. But, you had to feel for it because what little pubic hair he possessed was as blonde as the short hair on his hea and could not yet be seen by even a minimal distance.
And, I was happily feeling for it, running my hands all over Hemos's slightly larger erection and fondling his larger testicles while he courteously stroked my dick. I could tell that he didn't possess the same enthusiasm for cockplay as I did, unless you count his appreciation for the attention devoted to his member. And I knew that my willingness to satisfy his sexual urges was one of the few reasons he even had me sleep over at his place. But, I didn't let that stop me from finding pleasure in the handling of his meat.
I'd recently had an "introduction", of sorts, to seeing what someone could do with a man's dick with their mouth. While spending the night with my Uncle Jerry a couple weeks before, while I watched in secret, I was treated to a visual display of the intensity and unabashed pleasure that my uncle had obviously enjoyed having another man suck on his cock. From that moment on, I had a yearning that I needed to satisfy. With who was my only question.
I guess it was time to find out.
"I... heard that sucking on it feels even better than playing with it." I ventured.
In the darkness, I could feel a slight jerk of revulsion in Hemos's body.
"Put a dick in your mouth?" he croaked.
"Well, " I countered, my heart pounding with anxiety, "I think adults do it all the time."
"Well, I'm not gonna do it!" Hemos hissed. "That's homo stuff!"
"Yeah." I sighed disappointedly, while still playing with Hemos's dick. "I guess it is."
As I stroked his shaft in a steadier, milking rhythm, I could sense Hemos's breaths getting quicker. His manipulations of my dick began to falter as I could feel his body tense beside me. His hips rocked slightly in time with my pumping of his cock, and I cradled his balls tenderly in my other hand. When any attentions to my own dick has completely ebbed, I knew what was about to happen, so I picked up the pace just a bit more while lending a touch more pressure in my grip. Finally, Hemos's breath caught in his throat, and he turned his face fully into his pillow to stifle the moans that broke free as his cock pulsed and throbbed in a dry orgasm within my hands. I continued to massage him and didn't release him from my grasp until his member had gone fully soft.
"Man," sighed Hemos dreamily after finally catching his breath. "You are so good at that, CmdrTaco."
At least I had something to be proud of, I guess, as my friend gently withdrew himself from me and rolled onto his back.
Even though I was only eleven, the irony of Hemos's words and actions were not lost on me. My sucking on him would have been a "homo" thing, but beating him off was okay. Go figure. Within the few moments I had spent mulling over the irony of the thoughts, Hemos had drifted off to sleep. I slipped out from under the covers and down to the cool floor so I could masturbate without shaking the bed. As I toyed with my own dick, I imagined Hemos's cock in my mouth, wondering if the chance would ever really come. Finally, my own climax washed over me, and I got back into the bed.
I don't sleep real well to begin with, and even worse when I'm not in my own bed. And now, with the thoughts of a dick so close to me, as well as the vivid memories of secretly seeing man-to-man cocksucking pleasure floating through my prepubescent, sex-filled brain, I was not about to fall asleep anytime soon. Lying awake until around 11:30, I finally decided that I needed to do something to satisfy my hungers, or I'd never be able to let it rest. The trick was in finding the guts to follow through.
I knew that whenever Hemos fell asleep, he pretty much stayed asleep. So, since he was sleeping soundly, lying on his back, I took a deep breath and gingerly ducked my head under the covers and scooted down as much as I could to the foot of the bed. That put my head right at Hemos's hip level. I raised my head and upper body to help create a tent over his crotch. Sniffing around, I found the faint scent of young penis flesh. I inhaled deeply, both in the love of the scent, and in an attempt to slow my pounding heart. I opened my mouth wide over the area where I sensed Hemos's dick to be, and lowered my mouth squarely over his soft cock and balls until I could feel his sparse pubic hairs tickling my cheek. I finally had a dick in my mouth! I just wasn't sure what I'd do if Hemos woke to find his "homo" friend in this situation.
I remained like that for a long moment, partially in fear of trying anything more, and partly to savor the moment. I carefully let my tongue start to explore his tender penile flesh, enjoying the texture. Then came the excitement that welled within me as his cock began to respond to my attentions and harden in my warm and wet mouth! Butterflies seemed to explode in my stomach and drown out my heartbeat as I felt his dick get to its full size in my mouth. Concentrating in that dark environment, I found myself beginning to identify the shape of his member by taste. The shaft actually seemed to taste different than the head, and the thin skin of his scrotum seemed to harbor another distinct flavor.
I started to softly suck on Hemos's dick, becoming fascinated at how it just seemed to, well, 'fit' in my mouth... how the head lent itself to the back of my tongue, and how the shaft rested between my tongue and the roof of my mouth. My excitement was so great that my own recently satisfied dick was responding again, inviting me to play. I was sucking a cock, and I was in heaven!
However, within seconds, Hemos seemed to get restless. In fear, I quickly pulled my mouth away from Hemos's candy stick and held still. The covers rustled, and pulled back.
"Whatcha doin'?" mumbled Hemos.
"I... uh... was trying to find my shorts down here," I lied, starting to fumble near our feet. Well, partial lie, because it was a good idea to do so, anyway, and now was as good a time as any.
"Oh, yeah," said Hemos. "Get mine, too, willya?"
"S-sure" I stammered, relieved.
I located the two items of clothing and scooted back up towards the head of the bed. Thankfully, our underwear were pretty easy to distinguish since Hemos wore boxers, and I wore briefs. We both fumbled to put them on in the dark, and then settled back into the bed. I lay stiffly on my back, still harboring some fear that my friend discovered more than he let on, but Hemos simply rolled onto his side, facing away from me, and promptly went back to sleep.
And, here I was again, so close to my fantasies, yet still so far.
And very much awake.
After hearing the clock in the hallway chime midnight, I finally got up to go to the bathroom. Figuring it was late enough not to be an issue, and since even if Hemos's parents were home that they would be in their own bedroom downstairs, I didn't bother to slip on my pants for the short trip down the hall. I walked softly to the bedroom door, and then stepped out into the hallway, illuminated dimly by a bare-bulb night light. I walked past big brother Mark's door to the bathroom at the end of the hall and turned on the light as I shut the door.
Peeing into the toilet, I looked up at my reflection in the large mirror and smiled slyly to myself. I actually sucked on a dick, even if for only a moment! At that moment I was Rob Maldo, secret agent double-O-seven, who could sneak in and suck a dick, and sneak away without being caught!
I flushed the toilet and switched out the light as I headed back down the hall. Slipping past Mark's door once again, the door flew open, and a hand covered my mouth while a muscular arm snapped around my waist and drew me into the room. Squirming in the arms of Hemos's athletic older brother was a waste of effort, and he only squeezed harder until I settled down.
"You'll keep quiet if you know what's good for you,' growled Mark into my ear. "You gonna be quiet?"
I nodded. Mark let go of my mouth and reached over to close his bedroom door, the other hand and arm still holding me firmly with my feet off the ground. I heard something click, and recalled, and not without a certain amount of childish fear, that Mark had a lock on his door.
The room had a yellowish glow from the large lava lamp next to Mark's bed. He took me over to the bed and tossed me face down onto it, kneeling next to me. I thought briefly about trying to get up and run, but to where?
When I felt Mark's hands on me again, I was determined to fight him off, but I was no match for him as he flipped me onto my back and straddled me, sitting squarely on my upper chest, his knees pinning my shoulders and my arms locked between his legs. I gazed up at his lean, muscled torso, his stern blue eyes under a tussled mane of reddish-blonde hair. I could feel the soft fabric of his boxers against my chin.
"Can't get up, can ya?" he said, grinning down at me, all snide and victorious.
I struggled a bit, more out of obligation, but knew it was no use. Mark was just too big for me.
"Whatsamatter?" huffed Mark. "You too weak to fight? Or, maybe you just like laying there, sniffing dicks?"
I started squirming a bit harder, but Mark's legs only clamped tighter. At least he had scooted down a bit, and was no longer suffocating me with his weight on my chest.
"Yeah! Maybe you're a homo-boy who just likes sniffing dicks. Maybe you wanna sniff my big dick?"
I didn't care for where this was going, and I wasn't too comfortable with the tone of Mark's voice. But, I was also not being given much of a choice in the matter. Especially when Mark reached into the fly of his boxers and pulled out his cock.
"Here you are, homo-boy... a nice, fresh big-man dick!" grinned Mark fiendishly. "Ain't it a beaut?"
He held it out for me, then leaned forward and started to rub his cock on my face, tracing my cheeks and nose with the bulbous head. His testicles soon followed his dick through the opening, until they were dangling on my chin, the coarse pubes tickling my lips. Their faint musky scent began to fill my nostrils.
"CmdrTaco's just a little dick-faced homo-boy, ain't he?" sneered Mark, sliding his cock across my face. "I saw you in there, your head under the covers. What were you doing? Giving my little brother a blow job?"
I didn't answer. I was at once shocked at the thought of having been discovered, and confused by Mark's remark. I then guessed that he meant sucking a dick was called a 'blow job'. But... you're not blowing, you're sucking, and-
"You were, weren't you, you little homo!"
It was obvious what had happened; that Mark had looked in on us to find my head under the blankets. I thought I had sensed a miniscule change in the light, but assumed that to be part of my excitement. That must have been what woke Hemos up so suddenly.
"So, maybe you aren't just dick-faced, " he said, rubbing his cock on my face again. "Maybe you're a dick sucker!" He leaned forward, mashing his hairy ball sack into my nose, then pulling back to trace my features again with his member. But, even as Mark taunted me, treating his cock as a threatening weapon, there was something else happening.
He was getting a boner.
And as I closed my eyes, I could feel his cock thickening against my face. I could sense the heat of his hardening dick directly on my flesh. And, I found I was enjoying the sensations of this older cock against my face. There would soon be no way of hiding the fact that I was getting excited, too.
"So, dick-sucker-CmdrTaco... you're gonna suck my dick, now."
My eyes sprung open to see Mark's fully erect cock pointing at my face. While it wasn't huge (I had already seen 'huge' with my Uncle Jerry), it was still big enough to scare me.
And excite me to no end.
"Open wide, homo-boy."
Without another moment of hesitation, or taking my eyes off of Mark's sleek tool, I opened my mouth as wide as I could and watched as he leaned down and slid that beautiful cock into my waiting mouth. I then settled my tongue against the bottom half of his shaft while I could feel the upper half press against the roof of my mouth. Its texture was soft, yet hard; smooth, yet distinct.
"There," he sighed. "Now, you have a real dick to suck on. Now, get started, suck-boy!"
It was so much bigger than Hemos's young dick, I wasn't sure if I could get enough suction worked up to suck on it. It was then that I found out what sucking a cock is really all about: friction.
Mark held the base of his dick to guide himself and started to pump into my mouth, sliding his dick in and out of my salivating lips. He would slip in precariously between my teeth until he was near to choke me, then pull back out until the base of the bulbous head was just close to popping free from my lips, held in place by the suction of my mouth. Then he... we... would do it all over again... over and over... and gloriously over again.
"Oh, you are good, CmdrTaco," he moaned softly. "You suck cock real good."
I don't know about that; it seemed he was doing all the real work. But, I wanted it to be good. I wanted to have this dick in my mouth. And I wanted it again and again. I was definitely enjoying the oral sensations as his near-adult dick worked back and forth in my hungry mouth, and I wanted so much to please him so he would want my mouth again.
Mark placed his other hand on the top of my head to steady me as his thrusts became a little more erratic. His breath quickened, and I could sense that he was trying hard not to ram himself all the way down my throat and choke me. He was making little grunts with each thrust, and I could feel his dick turn to stone in my mouth when, in a mix of fear and excitement, I suddenly recalled what would happen next.
"Oh, baby... oh, fuck..."
Mark's movements got all quick and jerky. I was almost afraid to breathe.
"OHHHH!!!" he moaned, pulling out of my mouth and letting loose with a burst of white goo that seemed to splatter all over as he pumped his dick with his fist. My head still held firmly in his other hand, the warm liquid flew partly into my still open mouth, and all over my nose and eyebrows. I swallowed briefly, not sure whether to gag or hope for more, tasting fully the salty and musky liquid, then opened my mouth once more as Mark stuck his creaming cock back in and worked the thick fluid throughout my young mouth.
I sucked until Mark went soft and withdrew his spent dick. He smiled down at me, obviously proud of what he had done. He finally got off of me (good thing since I thought my arms were going to fall off) and stood there for a moment, an interesting picture with his hands on his hips, and his drained cock and balls hanging out of the fly of his plaid boxers. I just lay there with his juices clinging to my skin, wanting to do it all over again.
Mark bent down and picked up a t-shirt, and proceeded to wipe the remainder of his goo off my face. Finished with that, he tossed the shirt into a hamper and walked over to his bedroom door to unlock it as he tucked his manhood back into his underwear.
"You better get back into Hemos's bed before mom and dad find you here," he said softly.
I reluctantly got off Mark's bed and walked to the door. As I was about to exit, he reached out to stop me briefly.
"You liked that, didn't you, homo-boy?"
I nodded, not sure where he was going with this inquiry.
"Your first taste of cum?"
I shrugged, then nodded again.
"If you're good, maybe I'll let you suck my dick again some time, CmdrTaco. Now, get your ass out of here before I kick it."
I stepped out of the room and felt the door close harshly behind me. I could still taste traces of Mark's cum in my mouth, could still sense the friction of his cock on my tongue. I smiled in remembrance.
I was hooked.
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Cifm7vf1cC Post #552
no big suprise there
we can rebuild this sig. we have the technology
Hmmm, makes me confident about driving my Volvo with a MS OS in charge. Lemme see, it gets infected and we drive down to the police station? ;) Or maybe it replicates itself by ramming other cars? ;) ;) Then, it adjusts the flow to the heater core so that the car interior is cold or in cars with power windows rolls the windows down regardless of driver control. Soon, both car and driver have a cold. Randomly give the timing a spin so that it sneezes (backfires). ;) ;)
How about cold.vbs? First it checks to see if the outside temp is below 45 F. It causes the radiator fan to slow down and make the car run cold, cracks open the drain plug so that the car's nose drips and adjusts the thermostat so that it runs a little hot.
So, do we then need to see Norton for a cold remedy for it? Or just park it in the garage for a few days and give it plenty of antifreeze? Or chicken soup?
The fun has just begun!
You must be the change you wish to see in the world - Ghandi
would be funny if the guy who made this virus died because he couldnt call 911 because all the lines were tied up.
EOM
I dont know how web tv works, but i do know that on a webtv the maker has a complete control over the software and the hardware that runs on it.
And it still has viruses.
My Playstation is jealous. Now it wants its own line, too. All the other set-top appliances have one.
This is my post. There are many others like it. If you don't like what you read here, go try one of the others.
Happy Troll Tuesday!
/etc/fstab file so that it always automounted when plugged in. I was very impressed.
/dev/null, once I find where that actually is.
A Linux user goes back.
By Tony âoekNIGitsâ Collins.
Introduction...
In much of today's online news, we hear of how many people are migrating to GNU/Linux. What we don't seem to hear much of, is users going back to their old operating systems. The reason for this article is to say that I've done just that.
Yes, I've gone back. After three and a half years of trying to make GNU/Linux work on the desktop, I've decided that it's simply too hard for the average home user. Before I go into my reasons for going back, let me outline what I believe an 'average' home user is. Mr Joe Average is someone who wants to install their OS, boot it up, and it works. He wants to be able to upgrade his PC , and have the hardware work in a few short minutes. He wants to read email, browse the web, talk to his mates online, and play some games. Feel free to disagree with me, this is merely how I see myself. Note: I'm not referring to Grandma using Linux, or even my mum using it. I'm referring to average users who know a little about their computer.
Three and a half years; that's how long I've been trying to make Linux work on my desktop computer. Right about now, I'm sure that you are now screaming that I didn't try hard enough, or that I'm just plain stupid. Let me assure you that this is not the case. Stupid users don't doggedly stick at something for three and a half years, trying distribution after distribution in the hope of finding the holy grail of Linux desktops. They give up in less than a few hours of trying to (unsuccessfully) install RedHat Linux. Hear now my sad tale of why Linux isn't suitable for my desktop.
Some background...
The year is 1998. I've had my Windows '95 computer for around six months. Frustrated with the constant crashes, I desperately asked an online mate for help. Even though he was a windows user, he calmly suggested that I try something I'd never come across before...
âoeLinux, eh? Never heard of it.â
âoeOh, it's a free OS that you can download. Apparently it doesn't crash much. Just do an online search for it.â
Armed with this meagre knowledge, I set out on my quest for the ultimate stable operating system. I searched online, and found places where you could even buy copies of Linux! So, I left the comfort of my warm study, and returned forty minutes later with my first Linux boxed set â" RedHat Linux 5.2. After initially balking at the very basic installer (and few false starts), I had it up and running on my lovely AMD K6-233. I even got X working in no time at all. Then the system booted up for the first time.... and it was dead ugly. I had a very stable new OS, but I didn't even want to look at it. I was happy that I had several installed interfaces to choose from, but none of them appealed to me whatsoever. Wanting to download a nicer interface led me to my next problem.
I had absolutely no idea how to even get this nice, stable OS onto the internet! After reinstalling windows and RedHat in a dual-boot configuration, I got the help I needed by using Windows and USENET. Strangely enough, I can still remember the name of the long-suffering person who helped me get RedHat online, but that's another story. After looking around online, I discovered KDE. Only up to version one, it was the closest thing I had to a completely useable Linux system. I downloaded all the KDE packages for RedHat 5.2, only to discover another distro called Mandrake, that came with KDE preinstalled and configured. Back to my local distributor, and I was set.
Mandrake with KDE was exactly what I needed at that stage in my Linux using life, and I stuck with it for over a year and a half. Always seeking the 'perfect' desktop OS, I followed releases from version 5.3 all the way through to 7.0. Eventually I became dissatisfied with Mandrake, and briefly tried a number of other distros until I finally settled on Debian. I was impressed by the simple power, configurability, and the ease of upgrade that is apt-get. I felt good about being among the uber-elite Debian user community. Needless to say, I learned a lot about how to configure hardware under Linux during my time with Debian. I learned to sift through the old HOWTOs on Linux Doc until I found something suitable and accurate, I learned to utilize the power of USENET and IRC. Life was good.
Right now you must be wondering; âoeWhere is this leading? This guy seemed quite happy with Linux!â. True, I was. After a while, I decided I didn't want to have fine-grained control. I wanted something simple. I was getting tired of the 'stable' Debian release being so out of date, and the 'unstable' distribution being so... well... unstable. I got tired of having to recompile my kernel every time I got new hardware. I got tired of using command line to talk to my PC. It was time for a change. I had good experiences years ago with Mandrake, so I figured I'd try it again. As good as Mandrake 8.1 was, it wasn't what I was after. SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional (boxed set) was installed onto my PC instead.
I have to stop at this point, and say that SuSE Linux 8.0 (Pro) is the best Linux distribution that I've ever used. It has an easy installer, reasonable hardware support, and comes with the very good KDE 3.0. The box contains seven CDROMS, one DVD and three decent books that would help even the most inexperienced user get up and going. YaST2 is a decent graphical system configuration tool. When (not if) I go back to Linux, I'll definitely try SuSE again. However, there are quite a number of things that have improve (or change completely) before I'll consider going back. Read on for my brief list of things that must must get better before I'll switch back from the Microsoft camp.
Where GNU/Linux needs to improve...
X11
The X Window System is an awesomely powerful, network transparent graphical subsystem. It's perfectly suited to running applications from remote servers. However, this is NOT what a home user needs. My experience with X is that it's too big, bloated, slow and unstable to be any good to the home user. Most crashes that I ever experienced with Linux have been X's fault. My servers don't run X, and they never crash.
What home users need is something small and fast, so they can run local applications efficiently. I would like to see the X Window System dumped in favour of a hardware accelerated framebuffer, running something like directFB or Qtopia. Home users need a small, fast graphical subsystem, with built in 3d support. BeOS seemed to be on the right track before they went under.
Fonts are truly awful under X. Most distributions ship with appalling fonts, and there is no standard way to add additional (nicer) fonts to the system. Even after extra fonts have eventually been added, many applications (eg Abiword, Staroffice) refuse to use the new fonts anyway. Perhaps the framebuffer-based graphical subsystem I suggested could incorporate decent font support, and use a readable naming scheme as well.
Drivers
While having access to the latest version of the kernel is a good thing for developers, for home users it can be a nightmare. Got RedHat Linux 7.3? Perhaps you run SuSE 7.3 or Debian 2.2. You'll have to download a binary package specific to your distro. (I'm assuming that home users won't change their default kernel, but if they did, that binary package wouldn't even work!) Hardware manufacturers should be able to provide one single driver that works on all minor versions of a major kernel release. This way it would work will all current distros, instead of having to provide multiple binaries or source code. Hardware manufacturers don't want to give out the source, as this often gives away trade secrets about how their hardware is designed.
The solution seems to be to make binary drivers work on a variety of kernel versions. I'm not sure if this is even possible with the way the kernel is designed (I'm no kernel hacker), but it would go a long way toward making Linux more accessible to the home user. Even if the kernel needs to be redesigned to support this, then in my opinion, it should be done. Linux users are always clamouring for drivers... perhaps if the kernel had something like this, it might one day become a reality.
Hardware setup
While SuSE Linux 8.0 gave me some good experiences with hardware detection (such as automatic download of NVIDIA drivers), it also let me down as in this area.
The good: I recently borrowed a digital camera from a mate at work, to take photos of my case mod. Imagine how happy I was when I plugged it into my nearest USB port, and it was automatically configured (as a SCSI device) and mounted! SuSE even added it to my
The bad: Along came my new IDE CDRW drive. At AU$99, I couldn't pass up the purchase. Plugging it in gave me no joy. I was very disappointed that a device so common couldn't be detected and automatically configured under a modern operating system. The instructions on the SuSE support site said to add lines to lilo.conf and reboot. While this is a perfectly acceptable way to get hardware working for a geek familiar with *NIX, I believe that a home user shouldn't have to do more than plug it in. It's an IDE device, it's not that complicated!
The ugly: Once the hardware was finally working (as a pseudo-scsi drive), the next hurdle was to find decent graphical tools to burn and copy CDs. I finally settled on CDBakeOven, an above average KDE application. It burned CDs from data on the hard drive, but for some reason cdrecord (the command line backend) refused to allow me to copy a cd directly. Yes, it was installed SUID root. CD copying is such a basic function nowadays, why is it so hard to do under GNU/Linux?
Software distribution
I'll put this simply. I'm a home user, not a programmer. Why on earth should I have to compile the software I want to use? I know that having the source available is a good thing, but I'll say it again: I'm no programmer. I just want to install software and run it.
This leads to another point. Although having package databases (such as the rpm and deb systems use) is great, there should definitely be seperation between system packages and additionally installed software. There needs to be a standard installer and database for user-installed applications such as word processors, email clients and games, and it should be seperate from the rpm or deb databases used for system software such as lilo, init and cron. This will make it much easier for home users to know what applications they have installed on their PC, and to easily uninstall them if necessary, without knowing some arcane commands and weird package names.
Support
There is a huge wealth of knowledge among the thousands (millions?) of people that run GNU/Linux around the world. If you have a problem, odds are that someone out there can help you, often for free. This is one of the linux platform's greatest strengths. However, Linux users are also its greatest weakness. This may not apply to most of the community, but there is a very vocal minority that gives Linux a bad name. To every Linux user that has ever helped a newbie, I thank you. I have been helped by many a guru, often when I've been asking the simplest of questions. It's the remainder that are a problem.
I once heard a song by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie called Every OS Sucks, where Linux users were described as 'elitist nerdy shmucks'. Sadly this is true for much of the 'community'. Too many consider themselves better than the rest of the world because they run Linux. Can you believe that? It's just a computer operating system, but somehow they think that it makes them better than those people who run systems such as Microsoft Windows! Elitism drives people away, as does saying âoeRTFMâ or belittling people who choose a different distro from yourself.
'Nuff said about that.
So what now?
Well, I decided to go back to a Microsoft platform. Initially being paranoid after reading things about DRM and spyware, I bit the bullet and installed Microsoft Windows XP. Like every OS, it has good and bad points; most of which you can learn about from online reviewers. I'll just point out several things that make me want to keep using it instead of GNU/Linux.
Fast graphical subsystem: Windows has lighting quick graphics, both 2d and 3d. There's no denying it. When I move a window, it refreshes so fast that I don't miss X11 at all. While not quite as nice as some other operating systems, font support is outstanding compared to XFree86.
Drivers: Point and click to install (as a superuser, of course). Windows warns you if the driver isn't likely to work properly, and can roll back to working drivers if you deliberately choose to install one that hoses your system.
Hardware setup: My CDRW worked right away, without a hitch. I am able to drag and drop files from the Explorer file manager to the CDRW icon and they get added to the list of things to burn. A quick install of Nero Burning Rom, and I was able to make a backup copy of my game CDs. (I don't like taking originals to LANs where they can get destroyed or stolen).
Software distribution: All windows software comes in binaries, either with an installer or in a zip file. I hope to never compile an application ever again. Software designed for a different version of windows is 99% guaranteed to run, but if not, there is always 'compatibility mode'. One thing to note, however: Applications designed for single user versions of windows usually only run properly as a superuser, and this includes 3d games. I expect this to be rectified as the rest of the Windows world catches up to a multi-user environment.
I can't comment on the Windows using community yet. I've not yet had a problem that a simple point and click couldn't fix. However, I will say that my original concern with Windows '95 has been addressed in Windows XP. The stability is finally there.
Final Notes
In conclusion, I'd just like to make it known that I haven't completely abandoned the Linux community. My home server still runs Mandrake, and IPCop on my gateway/firewall. There is no way I'd ever put any form of Windows on my server, nor would I ever connect a Windows PC directly to the internet without a *NIX gateway in between. Microsoft has a history of poor security, so I protect myself the only way I know how; using Linux. I will continue to advocate the use of GNU/Linux in the server arena. This is where its strength lies at the moment.
Because of their history of spreading virii, I don't use the applications that Microsoft has provided with Windows XP. My wife and I use Mozilla for web browsing and email, OpenOffice.org for word processing, and Psi (Jabber client) for instant messaging. All of these are true multi-user win32 programs, and are perfectly interoperable with their Linux counterparts.
I expect that the Linux community will have something to say about this article; I welcome comments and constructive criticism. Flames will be automatically sent to the Windows equivalent of
By Tony âoekNIGitsâ Collins
- posted by poopbot: who doesn't like scat?
OWaXDiWSRG Post #554
Happy Troll Tuesday!
Credits: dmg
Yet again the Linux so-called elite, backed up by their pseudo intellectual cohorts of the w3c conspire to ruin Linux's chances in the marketplace by sowing confusion and complexity. As someone with years of experience in the marketing world, I am constantly amazed at the willingness of the W3C and other bodies to pollute the acronym space with their content free "TLAs".
Basic marketing 101 (and an undergrad course in psychology) would tell them that the normal person is only capable of remembering approximately 7 items of data in their short-term memory, but now we have to remember HTTP, HTML, XML, XSL, DTD, PHP, SSL, DSL, ADSL, ISDN, Perl, etc etc etc
This is a text book example of the tail wagging the dog from a marketing perspective.
I have been following the standardisation of the web for many many months now, but one thing has become clear, E-commerce will NEVER become popular so long as there are so many confusing acronyms involved. The guys in charge of marketing Linux absolutely MUST work to reduce the number of acronyms. One possible solution would be to merge those protocols which are not all that different. For example, why not merge XML with SGML ? (they could call it XSGML or SXGML or perhaps XMSGML), they seem to address the same problems. Or would that be too simplistic a solution for their pampered elitist ivy-league minds to comprehend ?
If something is not done URGENTLY, and I mean URGENTLY, Linux (and other more experimental derivatives such as FreeBSD) can never hope to be taken seriously as an e-commerce platform by the people who count - the accountants.
The miracle of Linux is that anyone actually runs it at all, considering one seems to require a masters in computer science to install it! (contrast this with NT4 which was so easy to install, we let our receptionist upgrade her own machine).
As usual my "open source" advice is free. Hopefully this time my valuable advice will be taken into account the next time the w3c smell an acronym brewing.
Finally, in conclusion, as an American, I am saddened that the Internet seems to have been commandeered by a European based protocol. Was America so short of talent we had to buy the HTML protocol from Tom Berners-Lee at CERN ?
Think of the security implications of the worlds strongest economy, running an e-commerce protocol developed by a foreigner from Socialist Europe. Remember the wall has not been down for that long. Who knows what kind of trojans might be lurking within the depths of these complicated protocols.
I am afraid I am behind Al Gore on this point, how can this be necessary in the home of smart corporations such as Microsoft and Intel ? The answer is the vast subsidies given by European socialist governments to fund development of the HTML specification.
The solution is clear. The federal government should mandate and strongly subsidise the use of Microsoft software for all US corporations involved in e-commerce. Only with a US-developed set of protocols can we be assured of the security of our transactions.
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rsfK34h9jz Post #555
Maybe this is off topic but can anyone actually give me a good example of a use for a macro in an email message - what could this possibly achieve, and even more so, what could allowing it to auto-run achieve? what about allowing it access to the users address book, or modem? is there any valid application that anyone can think of that could not be done another, safer way? The average user doesn't even use macro features in any application (spreadsheet doesnt count) so why are they installed/enabled by default in the first place? The need for a macro feature is even less likely for a WebTV user. Does Microsoft take security seriously? since im not even a programmer and i can see the mistake, im thinking no.
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What's more, they're going to win. A jury will take nanoseconds to decide between a grieving family and a convicted abusive monopolist sitting on $40 billion in liquid assets.
Lacking <sarcasm> tags,
...is that the loser who made this all happen has a heartattack and can't get through to 911 emergency services because his/her own virus/hack/whatever is tying up the line.
Sometimes these pranks go too far.
Tuus crepidae innexilis sunt.
If the person who wrote this virus has caused 911 to be tied up, and this has possibly caused somebody to die, would they be prosecutable under the new anti-hacker law that Congress put together?
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Gotta be at least one story like this.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
One of the big selling points of the WebTV unit was that it was "impossible" to get viruses. The sales staff were trained to say this (I knew a few). Obviously this isn't the case.
A lot of people have commented that Schmidt is full of... well, Schmidt, because anything critical should not be hooked up to the Internet. But here's an example of one way the ubiquity of Internet-connected computers could disrupt things.
Hypothetical scenario:
Whether this "virus" was planted by terrorists is not at issue, though. Perhaps we should pay more attention to Schmidt -- after all, who would know more about the insecurity of 95% of US PCs than an ex-MS security chief. We need to start looking at how our non-Internet-connected infrastructure might be indirectly vulnerable to Internet-based attacks.
It is a virus on my WEBTV/MSNTV device.
:)
After dialing 911, I like to call those 1-900 numbers and order things for myself off of web stores.
P.S. All your base are belong to us! I just networked with a Sega Genesis running "Zero Wing"
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In order to be able to pass Hayes commands to the modem, you first have to establish a terminal session to the modem itself
.1% of modem users on the Internet are vulnerable, which is probably way too high. If you did have a system set up like this, you'd experience frequent hangups during normal operation.
You are correct.
The problem is that normally "+++" drops the modem into terminal mode.
To keep this from being a problem (whereyou actually want to send "+++") is that modems are *supposed* to have a guard time where "+++" must not be followed by any data for a certain period of time. If any data comes in, they do not drop into terminal mode. This time is called the guard time. The guard time can be set to zero in software, however (if your dialup software is being braindead or is misconfigured), and a few modems (ones that Apple shipped) had a zero guard time by default. So all you had to do was get the remote computer to send *any* data containing +++AT(a Hayes command). This could be accomplished by sending an ICMP echo (ping) packet and waiting for the pong to hit the modem.
I thought this was fixed for just about everyone, but evidently the WebTV guys still have a zero guard time.
This "50% vulnerable" number is absolutely ludicrous. I've had a 33.6 and three 56k modems, and none of them have had a zero guard time by default or set to zero by the two Linux dialers, the two MacOS dialers, or the Windows NT dialer that I've used. I'd say that *maybe*
Setting the guard time to 255 is probably overkill...I can't see it being a problem at much of anything but zero.
May we never see th
...Microsoft officials are looking into how it is able to...control the modem.
I always knew that Microsoft wrote Windows not knowing exactly how it worked, and now they've got a hardware product that they don't understand how to control the modem of. They bring me a good laugh every day.
Near my 7th year, I became frustrated, started telling people how stupid I thought they were to their face (Usually after the 8th time of explaining something) And generally degraded into the self absorbed irritating prick that I am today.
No, that's not right. It should be self-absorbed, irritating prick. Watch that punctuation! :)
Interesting that this virus comes out so soon after the House OKs Life Sentences For Hackers. If the 911 lines get tied up, and someone dies as a result, can the virus writer be charged with murder?
"If a hack causes death the hacker can never be the only one to blame IMHO." - AVee
I guess in this case it could, unless you want to blame the user for hooking his computer up to a phone line.
Disclaimer: this is Slashdot, so everyone has to shoot their mouths off without knowing what they're talking about, right?
-jhp
/. -- the Free Republic of technology.
One of these days a virus will dial up the Virus Hotline and report itself.
Table-ized A.I.
Since this apparently affects pre-Microsoft WebTV boxes, though, it may be in code from the original WebTV people in Palo Alto. But that was a long time ago. Microsoft owns it now, and has to take the blame.
Is it actually running unauthorized code, or does the exploit just change what it dials?
As noted in an earlier article, if it leads to someone's death -- then a possible life sentence could be handed to the author of this expliotation.
But this is also assuming that it could be proved a life could have been saved if the 911 lines were not tied up due to this bug.
Compare Windows vs. Linux worm-writing:
Windows - Write five lines of code, stick them in an HTML email and wait for people's mail clients to execute it.
Linux - Spend a LOT of time tinkering, examining the source, experimenting, writing one test exploit after another, get one that works. Then release it and have it work against the n% of Linux users running that particular service, that particular version, probably on that particular distro.
I didn't say it was invincible, just that IMO it takes more skill, time, and effort to crack Linux. Why? Because Linux boxes get patched quickly and still tend to be run by people with at least half a clue about security. That means a vulnerability lasts a couple weeks at the most, whereas clueless users and Microsoft's inherently insecure coding practices have opened up the combination of buggy software and systems that go unpatched for years. Hence, Windows = easy to crack. Linux = harder to crack.
It's not a virus, it's a bug.
As someone who supports the damn thing, we're aware of this...umm... "feature". I don't speak for MS, or MSNTV - but the email doesn't spread. It's a one time thing sent by a malicious malcontent to a webtv user.
WebTV users can forward the email to each other, but the origination is obviously non-webtv since such things are impossible to create on the pitiful excuse for an internet access device.
I toggled a toggle and buttoned a button, but when I got done, I was done doin' nothin'.
Really? Is there a patent on the delay after "+++" to enter command mode? Is that why some modems don't impliment this (absolutely needed) feature?
Yes. That someone was called Hayes Corp... they were big bullies back in the early modem days... back when I got my first 2400baud. By the time I making the choice between Kflex and x2 when 56k came out, Hayes was a dirty word and you couldn't even buy their stuff anymore. (Retailers weren't selling them, at least not around here.)
I guess they're a pretty good example of how you can get short term gains from patenting offensively simple details, but in the long run you lose because you've pissed the whole world off. When was the last time you heard of someone buying a Hayes product??
Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all the unhappy people.
NT :)
God is real unless declared integer.
The wording's loose enough that it could be branded as terrorism. That'll get you the death penalty.
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Bleah! Heh heh heh... BLEAH BLEAH!!! Ha ha ha ha...
Choose using computers.
Choose hanging out on Slashdot.
Choose knowing enough about the patent system to make a lawyer blush.
Choose not having a girlfriend.
Choose your hand every night.
Choose Linux, and its politics.
Choose videogames, LAN parties, XL shirts, and big screen TVs.
Choose a career in the IT field.
Choose bitterness.
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Internet Explorer (n): Another bug -- that is, a feature that can't be turned off -- in Windows.
So.. if we call the webtv support line and ask for help, will they help? Give them a fake number and phone number and let them know that you've been notified of a hold in webtv that makes it dial 911. Lookup a google image search on BSOD and report to the guy every so often the content of the image... good times. Just remember: act dumb!
I thought (it has been a while) that most modems could be configured to ignore the +++ command and only drop carrier if the DTR (Data Terminal Ready) line was lowered? I seem to recall that &C1 and &D2 set this behaviour.
The MS Support phone number is supposed to spell out 1-800 GO-WEB-TV but it can also spell...
1-800-HI-WEB-TV when the user is on IRC
or if the user has been watching porn...
1-800-HO-WEB-TV
From excellent karma to terible karma with a single +5 funny post...
Talk about efficient AI...Microsoft probably didn't look at that code after stealing it, heh... "hello 911, this is the Box reporting Microsoft frauded my owner for selling him overpriced underfeatured and buggy hardware, thank you."
--- Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
Never send a set-top-box to do a PC's work... and one serviced by Microsoft no less!?!?
izm
It's a complex argument.
Laws gets passed against hacking.
Lessee...
Microsoft has a flaw in their program. It doesn't exist as a problem, until some hacker pushes them to fix it. Therefore if hackers did not exist, it wouldn't be a problem, right?
So let's pass a law - hacking bad. The law gets passed, because of these bad programmers (I think we're talking hackers, but I digress.) Things like this causes the ball to roll much easier for their lobbying group.
*OR*
No one finds the flaw, *whew*. We don't have to fix it unless there's a real problem...that would *kill* my chances of moving up...
Now, what we should *really* be asking, is it an error being generated by flawed Microsoft code? Maybe Joe was working a little late, got sloppy, and when someone clicks *here* it generates a strange string in an e-mail, causing problems. (Or some programmer in their employ who was miffed with...?)
Someone's mentioned that MSNTV is a closed system - do we have faith that Microsoft would actually disclose its own error? That would be the *only* way the win/win condition does not occur, ie, bad press existing only for Microsoft.
-Jimmer
Without noise you cannot filter truth. -DKM
and not very original either - maybe it should call Microsoft tech support instead.
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I'm sure the microsoft hater fan boy thought it would be funny to focus the blame on MICROSOFT THE EVIL EMPIRE while placing lives at risk.
...always playing catchup
Nice job! We all apreciate the idea you came up with. I personally have accomplished a better task by posting this message on the loserboard then he accomplished in all his high and mighty coding.
Linux for the masses!
F U
Thought this was appropriate..
"I've heard WinXP removed the cmd/command prompt."
No, Microsoft didn't remove the CMD.EXE or COMMAND.COM prompt from Windows XP. But Windows XP has reduced functionality, in many ways, not just in the command line. The command line is a big embarrassment because of its limited capabilities, but at least in Win 95 it worked. With every version since then it has worked less well. (There are two kinds of command prompt, and, according to Microsoft employees, the differences between them are not documented.)
The command line prompt sometimes begins to display short file names. Microsoft employees say that Microsoft has no fix, although someone not connected with Microsoft did make a work-around.
Cutting and pasting into a command line program often puts successive extra spaces before each line. Microsoft employees say that there is no plan to fix this.
The fast paste mode that is in Windows 98 is gone in Windows XP. Microsoft employees say there is no plan to fix this.
When using the command line interface, Windows XP doesn't always update the time. After several hours, the time reported to command line programs can be several hours in error.
There is a DOS program called START.EXE that can be used to start other programs. But it does operate the same way as in other versions of Windows. It starts a program, but cannot be made to return control to the command line program as previous versions did. There is no technical reason for this; it is just one of the shortcomings that are allowed to exist.
People often say that DOS has gone away. But Microsoft still calls the command line interface DOS, and in Windows XP Microsoft has added new programs for configuring the OS that work only under DOS.
Sometimes when you press a key while using Windows XP, it is seconds until there is any response. Apparently there is something wrong with the CPU scheduler in XP, because there are a lot of complaints about this in the forums and MS people have said that they are working on it. On one particular fresh installation of XP, on an Intel motherboard with either a Matrox G550 or an ATI Radeon video adapter, it requires 18 seconds to display a directory listing of 94 items. This is apparently related to a bug in the video software, not the adapter drivers.
Something is wrong with the Alt-Tab display of running programs under Windows XP. If there are a lot of programs, not all of them are displayed. The order jumps around in a seemingly random way.
Although articles often say negative things about Microsoft, I've never seen an article that fully documents how bad the situation really is. Microsoft's management is so bad that the company has become self-destructive. For example, Windows XP is spyware. Here is a list of ways Windows XP connects to Microsoft's servers:
1. Application Layer Gateway Service (Requires server rights.)
2. Fax Service
3. File Signature Verification
4. Generic Host Process for Win32 Services (Requires server rights.)
5. Microsoft Application Error Reporting
6. Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer
7. Microsoft Direct Play Voice Test
8. Microsoft Help and Support Center
9. Microsoft Help Center Hosting Server (Wants server rights.)
10. Microsoft Management Console
11. Microsoft Media Player (tells Microsoft the music you like)
12. Microsoft Network Availability Test
13. Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Service
14. MS DTC Console program
15. Run DLL as an app
16. Services and Controller app
17. Time Service, sets the time on your computer from Microsoft's computer.
18. Microsoft Office keeps a number in each file you create that identifies your computer. Microsoft has never said why.
19. Microsoft mouse software has reduced functionality until you let it connect to Microsoft computers.
These are just the ones I know. There may be others.
So, if you use Windows XP, your computer is dependent on Microsoft computers. That's bad, not only because you lose control over your possession, but because Microsoft produces buggy software and doesn't patch bugs quickly. For example, as of July 7, 2002, there are 18 unpatched security holes in Microsoft Internet Explorer. This is a terrible record for a company that has $40 billion in the bank. Obviously, with that kind of money, Microsoft could fix the bugs if it wanted to fix them. Since the bugs are very public and Microsoft has the money, it seems reasonable to suppose that top management at Microsoft has deliberately decided that the bugs should remain, at least for now.
It seems possible that there is a connection between all the bugs and the U.S. government's friendly treatment of Microsoft's law-breaking . The U.S. government's CIA and FBI and NSA departments spy on the entire world, and unpatched vulnerabilities in Microsoft software help spies.
Windows XP, and all current Windows operating systems, have a file called the registry in which configuration information is written. If this one (large, often fragmented) file becomes corrupted, the only way of recovering may be to re-format the hard drive, re-install the operating system, and then re-install and re-configure all the applications. The registry file is a single, very vulnerable, point of failure. Microsoft apparently designed it this way to provide copy protection. Since most entries in the registry are poorly documented or not documented, the registry effectively prevents control by the user.
Note that Microsoft does not support making functional complete backups under Windows XP. Look at Microsoft's policy about this: Q314828 Microsoft Policy on Disk Duplication of Windows XP Installation . Only those who work with Microsoft software will understand the true meaning of Microsoft's policy. Since almost all programs use the registry operating system file, if you cannot make a functional copy of the operating system you cannot make a functional copy of all your application installations and configurations. There are other software companies that try to fix this, but they don't work well, and Microsoft can, of course, break their implementations, as they have often done with other kinds of competitors.
Because the configuration information for the motherboard and the configuration information for the are mixed together in the registry file, the registry tends to prevent you from moving a hard drive to a computer with a different motherboard. That's another implication of the above Microsoft policy. So, if you have a motherboard failure, and a good complete backup, you may not be able to recover unless you have a spare computer with the same motherboard.
Note that Windows XP Professional can support only ten simultaneous incoming network connections. If you want more than that, you must use Windows 2000 server, and pay much, much more. (There is no Windows XP server yet.) Many businesses have very light network traffic; they just move files from staff member to staff member; they really don't need a dedicated server computer. The staff computers could easily handle the load except for this artificial limitation.
Apparently because the Windows XP GUI comes from Windows 98, Windows XP has the same problem with desktop icons that Windows 98 has. The icons sometimes flicker. Sometimes they move themselves around, particularly after the user switches monitor resolutions. Also, sometimes the taskbar settings un-configure themselves, as they do in Windows 98.
Only technically knowledgeable people know how to avoid signing up for a Microsoft Passport account during initial use of Windows XP. The name Passport gives an indication of Microsoft's thinking. A passport is a document issued by a sovereign nation. Without it, the nation's citizens cannot travel, and, if they leave, won't be allowed back in their own country. In Microsoft's corporate thinking, the company seems to be moving in the direction of believing that they own the user's computer. Most people are both honest and intimidated. Apparently about 95% do whatever they are asked on the screen. They give their personal information to Microsoft. They don't realize that, if they feel forced to get a Passport account, they should enter almost completely fictitious information, since the real question is not "What is your name and address", but "Can we invade your privacy". The honest answer to this is "No, you cannot invade my privacy", and the only effective way to communicate that is to give completely fictitious information. Since it is the educated people who have computers, Microsoft is building a database of the personal lives of educated people. Microsoft knows when they connect and from what IP address (which tends to show the area), what kind of help they ask, and information about what they are doing with their computers, including what music they like. It is not known, and there is no way to know, how much Microsoft or other organizations make use of this information, or their plans for future use.
Not only has Windows XP definitely gone further in the direction of allowing the user less control over his or her own machine, but with Palladium, Microsoft apparently intends to finish the job: Microsoft will have ultimate control over the user's computer and therefore all his or her data. Even now, under Windows XP, a recent security patch requires that the user agree to a contract that gives Microsoft administrator privileges over the user's computer . The contract says that if a user wants to patch his or her system against a bug which would allow an attack over the Internet, he or she must give Microsoft legal control over the computer. See this article also: Microsoft's Digital Rights Management-- A Little Deeper . You may need to be a lawyer to take apart the crucial sentence. "These security related updates may disable your ability to copy and/or play Secure Content and [my emphasis] use other software on your computer" legally includes this meaning: "These updates may disable your ability to use other software on your computer." Note that the term "security related updates" is meaningless to the user because the updates have no relation to user security. So, the sentence effectively means that Microsoft can control the user's computer without notice and whenever it wants. That kind of sentence is known in psychology as "testing the limits". If there is no strong public complaint about this, expect to see more and stronger language like this.
This Register article shows the direction Microsoft is going: MS Palladium protects IT vendors, not you . Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and Microsoft is well down that road. See this ZDNet article, also: MS: Why we can't trust your 'trustworthy' OS .
Microsoft's self-destructiveness does not mean that the user should be self-destructive. There is no need to apologize for using Microsoft software. The correct solution to abuse is persuading the abuser to stop being abusive. Once I posted to a Slashdot story a link to an article on a web site of mine. By far the majority of visitors from the Slashdot story used Microsoft operating systems. Rather than feel embarrassed because Microsoft is abusive, action needs to be taken to prevent the abuse. If you are against Microsoft abuse, you are not against Microsoft; you are more pro-Microsoft than Bill Gates.
These Microsoft policies mean that any government which wants to be independent of the United States government, and any government which represents itself as controlled by the people, cannot use Microsoft operating systems, or other Microsoft proprietary systems.
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I never post to slashdot, but I love to read along. After reading this, I had to say something. I only tested 3 or 4 of your claims on my Windows XP box, and found them all to be untrue. Many of the claims sound completely untrue based on my experience with XP. I'm not saying that problems don't exist, but you seem way over the top. Testing your copy paste claim in a dos window only takes a second. I'm amazed that whomever rated this note neglected to verify its validity also.
I recall once trying some obscure open-source dial-up package (can't remember the name I'm afraid) which for some reason had the (unconfigured) default phone number as 99999...
Now, 999 is the UK equivalent of 911.
Just typing the command caused it to dial...
Wouldn't it be better to forward the e-mail to Micro$oft instead...
...and he grinned, like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush.
At parties, every so often I say I'm a greengrocer. Trust me - people are much more interested in it than with the answer "I'm in computers", and you also don't risk the dreaded "yeah, I've got a problem with my computer. I just can't get it to...<insert MS Word function here>".
Cheers,
Why isn't MSNBC reporting anything about it? They usually jump at the chance to prove they are unbiased even though (MSNBC is a joint venture between Microsoft and NBC)...
I'm a 2000 man.
Educating the public won't fix this. Only Red-Ass Baboons with VCRs flashing 12:00 use WebTV. A bios flash won't work. Again, that's to complicated for the RABs. All WebTV baxes need to be smashed into bits. Maybe RABs can be convinced to do that.
How ya like dat?
There are two others with three digits. 411 is directory assistance. 611 is the number to call for phone system problems (you figure out the logic in that one...).
So, the creator of this prank could tie up lines that someone needs it for a real, life-threatening emergency, instead of playing a funny prank. I hope they nail his/her ass to the wall.
Virg
Wouldn't the first line of defence be to unplug the thing from the phone socket?
yeah, but 411 would have cost the webtv owners money because phone companies typically charge a $0.35 surcharge for DA calls?
</tongueincheek>
There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.
Consider this: this exploit has been around for more than a decade. Also, not all modems are affected by this. Also, it's fairly easy to fix this hole in the modem's init string, so even if you have affected hardware it's a simple fix to disable the escape sequence.
Now, considering these three points, and most strongly the first, the case can easily be made that due diligence was not used. I have little difficulty believing that somebody working on this project in Redmond ran a BBS at some point in the past (BBS operators know about this because schmucks would knock your board out all the time if you didn't compensate for it). Therefore, it was either willfully ignored for some reason, or nobody tested it who was qualified to test systems that use modems to communicate.
In either case, they're at fault.
Virg
If a criminal by some coincidence owned one of these webTV boxes, could he/she possibly expose themself to a probable cause search? In other words, if I killed a person and the five-o were too lazy to get a search warrant, (and somehow knew I had a exploitable modem) couldn't someone from an outside source have the box dial in and make the call to 911 so the poilce now have a reason to enter my house?
Sollt Ihre name nicht "gutentag" sein? Was bedeudet "guttentag"?
Virg
The article is very short on details, but if it is what it seems to be, it's just an old modem exploit, not hacked code. The idea is to send a ping with "+++ATH0" and then a modem command to dial 911 in the ping data. When the system responds to the ping, it sends back the data (including the escape string). Since the outgoing data goes over a dialup link, the return ping gets handed to the modem, and the modem sees the +++ATH0 in the data stream as an escape sequence/command sequence and responds by doing what it's told (in this case, hanging up and dialing 911).
It's bad, both to do such a hack (tying up 911 is very bad) and to have a modem that's not init'ed to prevent it, but it's not really a code hack.
Virg
As of TUESDAY NIGHT Microsoft issued a patch against this.
Turns out it's NOT a virus, it DOESN'T propogate.
Where's the love?
Yea what about that classic tune?