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The Return of Chewbacca
BrunoC writes "It's official! Peter Mayhew is going to play everyone's favorite wookie once again: Chewbacca is returning in Episode III, currently in pre-production phase. Peter says (quoted from StarWars.com) "I'm delighted to return as Chewbacca, I think his re-appearance in this film is a fitting way to tie the whole saga together, especially for Wookiee fans." Woa! Just for the records: Artoo and C-3PO will be there too! You can read the official annoucement here, at StarWars.com."
WHY can't the editors realize that there are people who don't want these spoilers, even seemingly minor ones like this?
It's extremely inconsiderate. Presumably they don't want people to stop reading their site, right?
Uhhhhh on behalf of the 1.5 million geeks WHO DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW THAT, thanks a bunch!
Time for a padlock on the mousebutton that hits that 'post' button, mayhap?
Octavian
"In the end, we all fall back on fiction." -- Lonely Planet
Let Chewbacca take out Jar-jar! Please? I'd pay money to see that.
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And with this Lucas's conversion to the dark side will be complete. Does he really have to shit all over every character from the original trilogy by associating them with the crap he's been making?
I'd rather see chewbacca appear in a romantic comedy with sandra bullock before the shit that will be Episode III. at least then the plot would most likely make sense to anyone over the age of three.
Isn't transliteration fun?
In other news they won't be rehiring Harrison Ford!! Because they can't make a Harrison Ford suit!! And because he would have told George Lucas to go **** himself and his Burt Reynolds haircut/scarf around neck under denim shirt!!!
Who are y oo ?
Always let the wookie win....
George Lucas must have been really high to think of Chewbacca. I mean that's where most of these famous directors get all of their good stuff...
*puff*
chewbacca
*puff*
he's a wookie
*puff*
arrr arrr
that's the sound he makes, write this down
All you filthy, bearded linux zealots really identify with Chewbacca. This has to be very exciting for you.
At this point I am so disillusioned with the new Star Wars films that I couldn't care less who'll feature in Episode III.
The last two films have been unspeakably bad and I'm extremely skeptical that the next will be any better.
People not wanting plot details, but in light of the fact that this has become a "news item" ... and not just on /. either ... do you people whining about the spoiler really think you can get all the way to the movie without finding this out?
I mean, hello...welcome to the world of computers, posters and trailers...
The Lone Gunmen are dead!!!
True, how can people really scream "Spoiler" since they already know how the series ends?
Shock news: Luke is Darth Vader's son!
Since Harrison Ford feels that reprising a young han solo would be going back to his pre-star days and would look utterly rediculous (I agree), does that mean we're going to see someone like Tyler Hoechlin as a young han solo? "Some people say that Jango Fett was a good man, other people say that there was no good in him at all..."
Or are we going to get an ALL CGI Jar Solo? "Mesa wanna play you sabbac for your hunka junka ship!"
Or maybe a Golem Solo that runs around shouting "My creditssss...."
...with "The Lone Gunmen are Dead". What an ass.
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I've got three in there so far.
I was excited before Episode I came out. Excited for probably the worst movie I've seen in the past 10 years (except for maybe D&D).
You remember what Scotty used to say, "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me".
I should have known, because I was fooled a second time with Episode II.
I'm not even going to bother with Episode III. Lucas has so discraced the legacy of Star Wars I can't even watch the origonal trilogy anymore.
[offtopic rant star trek vs. star wars]
Star Trek would obviously win. All they have to do is beam the Jedi through the transporter and all the midichlorians get stuck in the Enterprise's biofilter and you've got Chief O'Brien saying "Ok, Darth, who's your daddy?"
[offtopic rant - star trek vs. star wars]
If Chewbacca is a wookie, you must acquit.
Star Wars Episode 3 will feature Chewbacca, Han Solo, Darth Vader, Luke, Leia, the Death Star, and everything else you remember from the first Star Wars movie... because it will in fact be the first Star Wars movie. That's right, George Lucas will be slapping the name "Episode 3: Whatever" on to "Episode 4: A New Hope" and selling it as a whole new movie! The tagline? "If you loved the original Star Wars, you'll love Episode 3."
Step 1: Go to your preferences page.
Step 2: Scroll down to the "Star wars Prequels" checkbox.
Step 3: Check it.
Step 4: Done.
Then you won't be bothered with those pesky Star Wars articles that will contain filthy spoilers.
Oh, you want to know about the Star Wars Prequels, but you just don't want any spoilers?
Step 1: Stop reading slashdot.
Step 2: You can't have everything.
Step 2: Done.
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They needed to "tie the series together?"
They've got Obi-Wan, Anakin, and eventually Leia and Luke to tie the series together.
They're throwing in Chewie because:
a) Lucas ran out of ideas a long damn time ago.
b) Characters from the original trilogy sell better than characters from this one.
c) Hey. Don't complain. Could have been Ewoks...
How does everyone keep running into eachother? This galaxy of Lucas' is pretty tiny. Is Wedge going to run around in Episode III and introduce himself to everyone?
...the rest of Chewie's family? Here's hoping Maula, Itchy, and Lumpy will also be making return appearances.
I believe the only reason Mayhew plays "everyone's favorite Wookie" is because he plays the only Wookie, at least in the movies.
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I must admit i feel the same. The first ones were better in all aspects. Hell, even the effects were better. Episode 2 was probably the worst movie i ever watched in a cinema. Cant believe I flew over to NYC to see the premiere. I mean, from GERMANY!!! Stupid me!
Am I the only one on the planet (other than George) that actually liked the Ewoks ?
GL: "Chewie, Jar-Jar is your fah-ther."
Chewie, in his wookiee groan: "Wooooooooooa!" (meaning Noooo!)
Moments later, Jar-Jar is wiped from the slate, as a computer animated character, by the simple method of "Controlsa, Altsa, Deletesa". Oh so priceless. Who wants the clip?!
Lucas points to casting room:
"I don't care what you smell... get in there"
It's true
I would know!!
Who are y oo ?
Well. If Chewbacca is back then where will Han Solo fit in?
"We can rebuild him. We have the technology. But we'll have to start with scrap."
c) Hey. Don't complain. Could have been Ewoks...
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The Ewoks were supposed to be Wookies originally. But then some genius thought they would sell more dolls if they were all small and cute and annoying. So there you go, they just had to flip the name... ee-wok... wok-ee...
With a little bit of mental exercise you can ignore what your eyes see and imagine it's the planet of the Wookies all right.
Use the force, wook.
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Wow maybe the 3rd film will be as crap as the first 2.
If you didn't like the movies don't take this post as an invitation for you to bash it. It seems like every time someone mentions some key word like "star wars" in a NEWS article, the same old damn topics always come up. I myself hated Jar Jar, but overall 1 and 2 were good movies! Lucas's "vision" was to create a precurser to the original star wars series, and he performed the task well imho. Lets keep the talk to Wookies and not weather the movie was good.
This is not a troll, as trolls are green.
OK, we have a galaxy (far far away) with at least a few thousand planets. Each planet would presumably have on the order of 1-10 billion inhabitants. So what are the chances that:
1. a "remote" planet called Tatooine continually becomes vitally important to the fate of the galaxy, time and time again?
2. The same five to ten characters coincidentally reappear, time and time again? C-3PO was actually made by Anakin and just happened to be on the ship that was attacked near Tatooine and end up on Luke's farm? Now Chewbacca is going to show up, as a "coincidence?"
I suppose you could make arguments about the 'Force' making these coincidences happen. But you have to admit that's retro-explanations. Everything in Episodes 4-6 indicated that these characters were meeting for the first time, with no prior history. Now Lucas (and Star Wars fanboys) want to convince us that "no, really there's a whole previous story with these characters, which was never alluded to in the 'later' episodes."
It just goes to show what a crap storyteller Lucas is these days. How he got that way, I don't know. But Star Wars these days is about as well-written as the Daredevil movie.
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I think his re-appearance in this film is a fitting way to tie the whole saga together, especially for Wookiee fans."
:-)
Umm. There's Wookie fans?
Is this a fetish thing?
And I thought this was wierd...
Blearf. Blearf, I say.
.....you insensitive clod!!!
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In seriousness, though, I'm not wild about this; I love Chewie as much as anyone, but to tie him to the storyline at this early point and then just happen to have him intersect with it again in the classic trilogy just pushes coincidence too far, IMO. Characters like Obi-Wan, Anakin / Vader, Luke, Leia, Artoo and Threepio, Yoda, Owen, Beru, etc. who have some connection to the royal houses of Naboo and / or Alderaan and / or the Skywalker family legacy make sense for inclusion in the prequels, but for characters from other circles (Han, Chewie, Lando, Jabba, Boba, etc.) who weren't already established in the originals as being connected to them to suddenly turn out to have some prior connection after all shrinks the Star Wars universe a little too much, I think (but then, that's hardly the biggest problem with the prequels...).
*sigh* Oh, well. I'll still see it, I'm sure, and I hope it's better than the first two (hey, it's possible, right?), and I similarly hope Chewie's return / "debut" is either handled in a plausible way, or is simply good enough not to object to (or better yet, both). I guess we'll see...
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Lucas' new "vision."
Vision? There's a vision? I was pretty certain that crap like ep 1, 2, and prolly 3, COULDN'T possibly be planned. I was under the impression Lucas was making this shit up as he went along. And, IMHO, even though special effects have come a long way, most of what they're not so good yet they can make crap look good. I watched Empire the other day, and couldn't help but think how timeless it was, and how much better a movie it was than ep 1 & 2 rolled together.
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I liked the Ewoks. But I was pretty young when the movies came out.
Hmm... this seems to me to be the second time they've used Chewbacca to "spice up" the series, so to speak. The first time was in the book Vector Prime, where Chewbacca became the first/only one of the surviving heroes from Episodes 4-6 to be killed off. Now, they're putting him in Episode III... *shrug*
I'd ask why, but I already know the answer. Money. *sigh* More and more I'm inclined to agree that Lucas SHOULD have allowed Spielberg to direct Episode III...
Just my $.02...
...you forgot to mention:
- How bad the other movies somehow failed to live up to every one of your impossible expectations
- How much you hate Jar-jar
- How George Lucas should listen to your creepy emails.
- How he should please you and the rest of the mostly conflicting opinions of every guy who went to the movies and fancies themselves a critic.
- To declare "[Will be] worst episode ever!"
- You'd make his vision of his creation of his universe so so much better.
why run from Vincenzo?
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It must be the midiclorians!
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You thought II was worse than I? You don't get out much, do you?
...of course: how i should have used a unordered list instead of pedestrian hyphens. Ack, choking on ...your...ow..own...outrage!
why run from Vincenzo?
Jabba the Hut: Bitch of a Wookie Chewbacca.
(he actually says this at one point)
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Horrible lightsaber accident.
Any other cool ideas on how to have chewy (or anyone) take out Jar-Jar. Just of fun of course, I love the cuddly little bastard (as long as he doesn't take up too much screen time).
why run from Vincenzo?
I dunno ... my favorite wookie is Chewbacca's father, Itchy, who appeared in the Star Wars Holiday Special, along with Chewie's wife, Molla, and his son, Lumpy. There was also an appearance by Bea Arthur, but the word is that she was not actually playing a Wookie.
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What I want to see is Harrision Solo come back for Episode III and play Han Solo's father with Chewie. I think that'd be a marvelous plot twist. Maybe have his dad be a CorSec officer or something - i don't know how the novels portray him.
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Whatever favorable opinion you may have had of the original series, Lucas is completely creatively bankrupt now, not an unusual development for creative types. Does anyone on the planet think Francis Ford Coppela is still as creative as he was in the 70s (Godfather I & II, The Conversation, Apocalyse Now)? Why is it surprising that Lucas has suffered the same fate? Unfortunately, he has total control over SW and thus has dragged the franchise down with him. Too bad a Peter Jackson could not be entrusted with such a project, but, as his right, Lucas is intent on taking his baby to the grave with him.
I'd rather see chewbacca appear in a romantic comedy with sandra bullock
Well, at least there'd be more chemistry than in Episode II.
I agree. It was contrived enough that he had Anakin make 3PO, and it just HAPPENED that Boba Fett, the most popular bounty hunter, was chosen to be a model for the clones. Is he even capable of creating new characters? Oh yeah, Darth Maul. He was cool. Except Lucas fleshed out his character like Kate Moss trapped in a 1-dimensional universe.
And you know, if he wants to maintain some consistency with the first two, he wouldn't use an actor at all for Chewbacca, just some fidgety CGI model.
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I don't know what the lifespan of wookies are supposed to be, but I know Peter Mayhew is almost 30 years older now and we will be playing a character who is 20 years younger. Chewbacca is an action character - his lines are pretty limited, even by Lucas standards. He's a 7ft monkeyboy (hmm, that gives me a casting idea) so I expect him to jump around (no not like Yoda) and be even more physical than he was in Episode 4. Is Mayhew going to be able to pull that off? Maybe he'll be in the fur suit just for closeups so he can do the articulation we're all know while a body double will do the broad action shots (as we saw with Christopher Lee in Episode 2).
Shock news: Luke is Darth Vader's son!
You have ruined it for me forever!
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... that Chewbacca will show up in practically every preview for Ep3.
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One of the things about Epic stories is in how besides the cast-away hero model (Luke in Star Wars) and connection to the inside politics and power struggles you can have perfectly normal Joe Somebody make a drastic difference in the world (galaxy). By twisting and tying of these characters into one little package of former acquantances you weaken the power of the tale. Would you be for a LOTR prequel that showed a younger Gimli playing with a baby Aragorn? How about Legolas adventuring with Bilbo's great grandfather long ago? No, because that would weaken the story and the plot.
BTW, another childish coincidence could be for Star Trek : Enterprise to have a Lunar vacation result in the meeting of an Iowa farm couple, a Russian couple and a Vulcan child that seems to have an affinity for human girls. See where this is going? It is cheesy and demeaning of the story and of those who read/watch it.
do you think he means R2?
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That's not true! That's impossible!
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However, I think that the movies of the post original star-wars era that are most liable to still have people talking about them in 20 years time are the LOTR movies by Peter Jackson.
But I draw the line at Star Trek vs. Middle Earth debates ("Hah! Gandalf's an Istari! He took down a Balrog, he could take down a Borg Cube if he wanted to!") No.... I really don't wanna go there.
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I was waiting to see the prequels before seeing the orginal series... Who's chewbacca anyway?
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... the second Borg Cube it attacked?
The first one having been vaporized....
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Don't blame Lucas, he's just following in the grand tradition of many storytellers. For example, Shakespeare wrote a number of plays in which characters separated earlier in life are reunited by coincidence.
I hear the Ferenghi, Q, and the Borg are going to make an appearance, too, completely spoiling the previous continuity.
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1) Why doesn't Tatooine make sense? It is important because Anakin was born there and all of his remaining family lives there. They take Luke there because that is where his family is. This is actually one of the plot points Lucas seemed to do well with.
2) C-3PO being built by Anakin is a bit hokey, but the droids are in all the films because they are essentially owned by the Skywalkers. Its no coincidence that Leia trusted R2 with the Death Star plans considering how many times the little guy saved her mom's life.
I'm alot more skeptical about Chewy however. A young Lando may make more sense considering the battle he mentioned in ROTJ which allowed the Rebels to trust him enough to become a General.
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Remember, Lucas is trying to show the conversion of a very promising young Jedi Knight into the right hand man for the forces of evil. What could be the triggering factor that would make a character such as Anakin no longer value sentient life? If taking revenge for his mother's death wasn't enough to push him over the edge for good, what will be?
It can only be Jar-Jar. That's the death that would really make the audience think. "Wait, is killing Jar-Jar really evil? Perhaps the dark side of the force is more seductive than we imagined!" "Sure, Anakin/Vader is now going to cause the loss of billions of innocent lives and help his vicious master oppress the galaxy for decades... but isn't that a price I would have been just as willing to pay to see Jar-Jar strangled with his own tongue?"
Obviously not, since someone with an IQ well into the triple digets decided it was a Troll instead of a witty retort to a neanderthalistic posting.
"Has [being a kidnapped teenage girl, raped repeatedly for months] changed you?" - Katie Couric to Elizabeth Smart
In efforts to save money, I heard that Lucas is going to resurrect some of the wookie footage from the Holiday Special and cut it into Episode III...
Personally, I'm waiting for the return of Princess Leia. *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap*
"Woa! Just for the records: Artoo and C-3PO will be there too!" Didn't someone say that the whole series is told by the droids anyways? I mean, that would explain how C-3PO is able to tell the ewoks the story at the end of Return of The Jedi..
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1. Tatooine -- Yes, it was the home world of Darth, and hence Darth's brother Owen, and hence Luke could have been dropped off to be cared for by Owen by Obi-wan, who stuck around to watch over him, and whom Leia was going to see at the start of the original movie (remember that one?)
The only disgusting thing is that Vader killed his own brother in that same movie simply because Owen didn't know where the droids were. Of course, I doubt that plot point had been in the mind of George while conceiving of the original story line.
The only truly odd coincidence is that Lips ended up going there in the first place, to a planet that happened to have a child whose genetic propensity for the Force was exceedingly rare -- rare on a galactic scale! That such a child happened to be on any planet any one person (even a well-travelled queen) would visit during their lifetime is unlikely. That he was on that planet AND their paths happened to cross is unbelievable.
2. I find it hard to believe Darth invented the Goldenrod brand of protocol droid. More likely he assembled his own Goldenrod from parts of busted other Goldenrods. Don't know what the "official" cannon says of this, but the latter makes the creation much more likely. That he might be some super-AI-programmer at age 7 is not likely.
Of course, he is a super-engineer and natural pilot, all independent of the force and before even learning about The Force.
He's kind of the Paul Atreides of the Star Wars universe. The Kwizatz Haderach, being the first true male Bene Gesserit AND mentat AND well-trained prince AND desert fighter leader AND spice-taker all rolled into one.
Paul Atreides
The Kwizats Haderach
Usul (the small moon named for a mouse or something), also a power word for a weirding module
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3PO was on that ship because Leia was on that ship. Yes, they were owned by the captain, but he was obviously intimately embedded with the rebels. The droids were obviously more rebel-owned than captain-owned, as evidenced by them obeying Leia's commands to go take the message to Obi-wan. For all we know, they were hanging with Leia all this time as she grew up on Alderaan and were transferred by "ownership" to the captain since Leia was hidden cargo, thus when interrogated they'd say they were owned by the captain and not Leia: queen of spades in the Galactic Empire's most wanted deck.
3. Who met for the first time in the original? Leia, Obi-wan, and Darth all mutually knew or knew of each other, to greater or lesser extent. (Leia a well-known leader of the rebels.) Everyone met Luke for the first time, although in the first movie it was obvious there was some bad blood between Owen and Obi-wan. If Chewbacca never meets Darth in #3, then we won't really have a problem at all (not that there were any scenes in the original 3 that hinted they did or did not know each other.)
"Has [being a kidnapped teenage girl, raped repeatedly for months] changed you?" - Katie Couric to Elizabeth Smart
Jar Jar's head. On a silver platter. With Ewok sauce on the side.
No, really, I think George Lucas really needs to learn that he's been getting a pretty bad rap for Episode 1 and Episode 2. His storytelling skills have rusted, and he needs to realize that the magic is gone.
It was fresh when it came out, but now we're used to big aliens, flashy special effects, and bad acting. He needs to provide the people with something that actually lives to the level of innovating the originals had, instead of being all high and mighty and telling us it's an epic.
The thing is people know an epic when they see one. You don't need to tell them that it's an epic, because then there's a chance you could get screwed. Instead, imoho, he should revamp his methods, find what works/what the people want, and do it.
Another sad thing that I think the new ones have really lost was the feeling of the originals. The originals felt like they were made on a small budget and stuff, and the new ones just try to impress you with graphics and Jar Jar.
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If you were over 12 when the movie came out, then yes, you are the only one.
I think the reason people hate ewoks so much, is because it was originally supposed to be Wookies.Or so the rumor went.
With that in mind, peple built up how cool that would be. Lucas could touch on how the Empire repressed other species and enslaved the wookies. It would have been much more believable when a wookie hits an armored storm trooper. then the Storm Trooper went down.
I think a couple of minor changes could have made a take over from the ewoks more believable.
If our heros raided a storm trooper outpost that had a weapons cache and gave some ewoks guns.
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is that we'll get another great soundtrack from John Williams. I can ignore the dialogue and still enjoy the movie, and I'll probably get just as much of the "plot", too!
While seemingly obvious, I think this is where the twist will come in. Lucas has alluded that there will be a huge surprise in the 3rd installment. Perhaps the Chancellor is actually a clone? I think it's a stretch that this guy is around as the head politico, dealing with the Jedis, and none of them notices that he's eminating the most powerful dark force of all. Then again, Lucas writes some pretty big plotholes...
... now, this is the kind of debate that makes Slashdot Slashdot... ;-)
Anybody else remember the little ditty courtesy of Mad Magazine and that evil genious William Gaines????
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Of course he's beloved; if it weren't for Chewbacca, we never would've heard Ralph say, "I bent my wookie."
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A spoiler would be something like, oh say, that Chewbacca is bald in this episode or that he's gay or something. That would be a spoiler...
/gay/ ?! Wow! I have a friend who'll be very interested to hear that - she's had this thing about a "Han/Chewie sandwich" for years - but then she went to a terribly posh English girl's boarding school which explains a lot...
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C3PO either can't understand R2-D2, or for some reason chooses not to communicate what he says, so R2-D2 is running around saying things like "Watch out Luke! Vader is your father!" and "Hey Yoda! How's it hangin?" and Threepio doesn't bother to translate them.
Maybe Threepio is still secretly loyal to Vader and doesn't want to tip Luke off?
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Do not meddle in the affairs of ewoks, because thou tasteth of pork when roasted and thine skull will tune up nicely as a party drum!
Weeee hah! Awoo! Yubba yubba yubba!
Now we all know where the anecdote about Wookies' poor sportsmanship originated (ripping arms out of sockets when they lose). In Ep III, Jar Jar will challenge Chewie to a chess match and, stupidly, will embarrass the Wookie. We all know how this ends (and have been looking forward to it since Ep. I).
And you thought you fetish was fucked up.
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Man does Spielberg SUCK as a script writer.
What's next? Han Solo digital actor?
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"Muad'dib" was his public fremen name, meaning a sort of kangaroo mouse on Dune known as "the teacher of children" for its human-like desert survival strategies. It was also the name of a moon. (in the movie, it was "the mouse-shadow of the second moon")
"The Kwizats Haderach" wasn't so much a name as a title or description. Arguably, he didn't turn out to be it after all (he claimed he was "something unexpected"), or a true mentat.
Excised before publication was Paul's remarkable talent at knitting, which the editors thought was one skill too many for suspension of disbelief. The story suffered though, as this was the original, much more logical, reason for he and his mother to be accepted into Stilgar's tribe.
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In A new Hope, Obi-Wan sets up the Han meeting through Chewbacca. Their having a previous relationship lends merit to that little detail. And, slightly off-topic, but if Lucas keeps bringing back characters, why can't we see the Millenium Falcon in its heyday!? The Falcon is the coolest character in all the movies.
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The only way to avoid that bit of knowledge would be for you to live in a hole in remote part of a forrest for the next couple of years...
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I also hear Sir Alec Guiness won't be Obi-Wan Kenobi! Imagine that.
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because they're doing a prequel when the original actors are 25 years older or else dead, Chewbacca was basically a guy in a Wookiee suit with a good script. Sure, the actor did a fine job, but just about anybody of similar size could handle it well enough. So as long as he hasn't gotten too fat or arthritic, then it's nice to give him a job that will probably pay more than most of the actors in the original got.
But it's the suit and the script that really have the part, and if the script is bad enough, the suit's no more helpful than Jackie Chan's Tuxedo...
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Ironically, Star Wars was originally based in part on the Seven Samurai, another Kurosawa great. Lucas never came close in subtlety or grace to Kurosawa's work, never mind Shakespeare.
Hidden Fortress, not Seven Samurai. Plot of Hidden Fortress: a disguised senior General must help a hidden princess survive a crossing through enemy territory from a hidden fortress in their recently defeated kingdom to safety in an allied kingdom with the aid of two fools. The two fools were by Lucas's admission among the inspirations for R2D2 and C3PO. Princess and General seem obvious seeds for Obi-Wan and Leia.
If you've seen Seven Samurai, you'd have a hard time figuring out what about the movie could have inspired Star Wars. Mind you, I think you could have rewritten the big fight scene in AOTC to be a replay of the big fight scene in 7 Samurai (when the bad guys attack the village), but I don't see anything more than minor details suggesting 7 Samurai in Star Wars.
There are elements in the stories that are taken from other Kurosawa films (the bit with Han and Chewy chasing, and then being chased by, the Stormtroopers reminds me of scenes in a couple of Kurosawa films). But the biggest influence from Kurosawa's oeuvre was clearly Hidden Fortress. Anyone who liked Star Was for reasons other than the spaceships ought to watch it.
If you were over 12 when the movie came out, then yes, you are the only one.
I was 11 at the time. Ah, those were the days.
However if my son, now 2 years old, ever watches Episodes I & II and actually decides he likes Jar-Jar Binks... well, I'll have to take another look at the will.
...then there really isn't much need for pants.
Unless you get a boner, I suppose. Then it might be embarrasing.
Bwluuaaauhhhggg!
That was the best I could do... don't laugh.
If the prequel comes after the sequel....does, in this case, pre-production happen after post-production?
This is what is so tricky about the Star Wars timeline. Luke Skywalker is a man in Episode IV and his father is ruling the galaxy. Meanwhile this ancient throw rug is smuggling "rebels" from planet to planet.
You never actually read Dune, did you? Let's stick with the first two books, Dune and Dune, Messiah; better to ignore Children of Dune and after for now; I get the feeling that while according to Herbert, a few scenes in Children of Dune were written before Dune was published, much more of it was probably written after Dune, Messiah, and he started losing control of continuity after Dune, Messiah (originally Alia did not have ancestral memories, but only the memories of the Fremen Reverend Mothers; that changed in Children of Dune).
1. There was no weirding module in the novel. "The Weirding Way" was merely Stilgar's descriptive term for the kind of martial arts that Bene Gesserit taught (because Bene Gesserit are "weirding women," or "witches"). The whole "name is a killing word" thing in the book means only that the name "Muad'Dib" is chanted by the Fedaykin when they leap into battle, nothing more. The "word" Paul would kill Gaius Helen Mohiam with is merely his ability to shock her into silence, supposedly shock her enough to cause her a heart attack, the only thing he yells at Feyd-Rautha is "I will not say it," which shocks Feyd-Rautha (because Paul has been all but silent for most of the fight, and becuase he thinks Paul is about to die) into a momentary slip that is enough for Paul to kill him. And the Baron does not fly away into the storm, he is simply pricked with the Gom Jabbar and runs away in agony. You don't know for sure that the Guildsmen use melange until a contact lens falls from a navigator's eyes (navigators and steersmen are originally different, I think, one normal, one mildly non-human looking; not like the Guildsmen of the film or the late books). Ignore Lynch's oddities, even though it's clear from Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune that Herbert himself was taken with some of Lynch's ideas, they aren't relevant to the first book.
2. Paul Atreides accepts the Fremen public name, Muad'dib, meaning "Mouse," upon his acceptance as a Fremen; his tribe has a secret tribal name for him, "Usul," "the base of the pillar." "Usul" means that Stilgar expects the martial arts talents he and his mother bring with them to provide a new foundation of strength to the tribe; "Muad'dib" he picks because he's amused by one of the kangaroo mice he hears hopping in the night, not realizing that the kangaroo mouse is held in high esteem in Fremen culture as "the instructor of boys" (which, as a teacher of the martial arts, Paul will of course become).
Paul is a mentat only because he comes from a line bred for intelligence by both the Bene Gesserit and the Atreides themselves, and both of his parents think a mentat Duke would be unstoppable. The fact that he's a mentat isn't coincidental to Paul's status as the Kwisatz Haderach, it's an obvious side effect.
3. The Kwisatz Haderach, "the one who can be many places at once," is the male who can survive the Agony that makes a woman a Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother. You get the idea that only a very few Bene Gesserit women in a generation attempt the Agony, and only a certain percentage survive it. And no woman in generations had been stupid enough to try it while pregnant; it was rare enough that Jessica, a trained Bene Gesserit, didn't know the effects.
The Bene Gesserit had been manipulating breeding for 90 generations, primarily the Corrino, Atreides, and Harkonnnen lines (all of them related; the Atreides are cousins of the Corrinos on the distaff side, and Count Fenring is a relative of the Corrinos and probably of the Atreides), looking for the talent which will make the Kwisatz Haderach possible. The key is the ability to look into the future, for Reverend Mothers are only able (through Other Memory) to look into the past. While Guild Navigators are able to look into the future, they see it only dimly, where the Kwisatz Haderach sees it very sharply, sharply enough to fit history around his vision.
4. The Missionari Protectiva, an arm of the Bene Gesserit charged with traveling to dangerous planets
Little Chewbacca's First Life Day
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
What if Lucas plans to make a side story about Chewbacca that never actually interacts with the main story? It's not totally inconceivable that we might have the main story concerning Anakin and Obi-Wan unfolding while we see occasional glimpses of whatever is happening with Chewbacca at the time. Why assume that, just because he'll be in the film, that his story line will directly intersect the stories of the main characters? There is the stuff with the Hutts that needs to be set up (recall that Han Solo was already in deep doo-doo in Episode IV.) Perhaps Chewbacca's appearance in the film will be brief flashes of the beginnings of that story line.
--Rick "If it isn't broken, take it apart and find out why."
--I have no idea why people would consciously avoid SW info (except maybe to avoid all reference to JAR JAR!!... AAAGH) IMHO the movie probably won't be worth it.
--Hope I'm wrong people...
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== WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
When I realized that not only was it an irredeemibly bad movie, it also diminished the originals by making them NOT MAKE SENSE. (Never mind all the dick-waving special effects)
Making Darth Vader build C3PO was beyond retarded...but the lack of recognition can be explained by the fact that C3PO is a robot and his memory can be erased, and that Vader no doubt saw a lot of such droids. Still, if you make a prequel, you should NOT need to do any rationalizing.
But chewbacca is a sentient being for whom things should remain a bit more clear. He had BETTER NOT meet obi-wan...there would be no rationalizing that.
Not that it matters, I won't watch it anyway. George lucas can suck my balls.
I'm too lazy to compose a creative sig.
I'm not sure what your point is, but Luke Skywalker was really just a boy. Like 17 or 18 years old, as I see it.
I'm such a fanboy. Why I bother defending Lucas I have no idea. Probably because it's ten in the morning in Berlin on a Sunday and I've nothing better to do. First, we've no idea how large Chewie's role is in Episode III. Personally, I imagine that it's hardly above a cameo, something to make us grin. Second, even if it is a large role, so what? I hear a lot of people grumbling about this being a small galaxy, how the same people keep showing up and all that. Well, frankly, I see it more as our story follows the same group of people, who naturally bump into the people they know from time to time. A previous poster questioned why Lando was a general. Why not? He's charismatic, a good pilot, and has administrative experience (Cloud City). Sure the alliance has a command structure, but they'll also take what they can get. Look at the high command: Ackbar (former civlian city administator on Calamari), Madine (Imperial defector), Rieekan (Alderaanian technician), Solo (smuggler), Drayson (customs officer), Bel Iblis (senator). Lando fits in this group. This is Lucas's story, whether we like it or not. We must judge something by the standards of the existing universe. We cannot apply our own standards to a galaxy far far away. I mean, you all sound like pedantic whiners. If you don't like it don't go. I didn't care for Ep I very much and I thought that Ep II lacked in the writing. But the effects rocked, and I'll gladly trade five bucks for two hours of being stunned by something I'll never see in real life. For that very reason I'll go see Ep III. Lucas will show me something I can't see anywhere else. End rant. Why did I bother again?
No statement is true, not even this one.
Chewbaacca: To be played by Robin Williams.
"The costume looks good on you"
"What costume?"
I don't care what you smell... get in there and pay your $8.50!
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Lol, relax. I just meant anyone who would be interested in Star Wars already is. You introduce people to things that are at least slightly obscure. Like Mr. Show. I introduce people to it all the time. Great show. But, I assure you, there isn't anyone left to introduce Star Wars to.
Maybe I should've been more clear.
For those of you who don't get the joke, click here for a written explanation.
a gain/bush_fooled_again.php
/.ed--hence no hypertext link. /.'s lameness filter looks like it's putting an extra space in "again"; take out the space to get to the link.
For a more bandwidth-intensive explanation go to:
http://www.brainthink.com/amusements/bush_fooled_
There's a clip on that second page that's almost a meg large and I don't want the poor bastard getting
I'd suggest you don't use Slashdot as your only news source, or you will suffer permanent brain damage.
I'm glad to see Chewie back for one more film, however I hope he doesn't encounter R2 or C3P0 (on screen, or implied off screen). I'm already wondering how George is going to explain why Ben and others don't remember the droids, nor do they remember him.
If Chewie encounters them, then that'll just be another "why'd they forget?" that needs explaining.
Oh well...
Go here for teh [sic] funny.
" Best of luck to the ILM team that has to make the CG fur look right."
Monsters Inc. and Ice Age shown it can be done.
It's much easier to create realistic-looking CG fur, water, etc when the only other point of reference is more computer graphics. When you have a big, furry CG wookie standing next to a real human it better be really well done, or else it'll just look stupid.
I'd suggest you don't use Slashdot as your only news source, or you will suffer permanent brain damage.
The Clone Wars, and Obi-Wan's involvement.
The "Ben Kenobi" that Luke meets is a clone.
Boba Fett was the model for the clone army.
That Luke and Leia's children were the basis for Eps. 7-9.
Really, that's all I remember. But I think it mitigates the "completely contrived" theory. I presume these things were in books, but I could be wrong.
Ok, The movies were shown in this order 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3. Now here is the BIG problem. 4, 5, 6 were writen in a row. Simple they were good to the point and it was not changed really in any way from the script. 1, 2, 3 were designed after/during around the time of the other 3 then they were put on the big screen years later. Lucas decided to "Modernize" the series. And basicly re write his mistakes and explain things. He should have left them because I have a feeling that the Original Scripts would have done fine. I liked starwars, the first 3 but because of the media and the outlook on these movies we will never really experiance the original "magic" the movie gave us, because in the age of /. and P2P File sharing we will always know the ending and there will be no more surprises.
I liked the good ol' days.
Master Of The Tessenjutsu - "He'll Cool you down and cut your arm off in one shot."
No, in fact, I'm not. I wasn't born was Star Wars came out. I was born after Return of the Jedi came out.
It's a time-honored tradition, and bound to work!
Creativity, what's that?
Magius_AR
How can you pluralize The Lone Gunman?
What do you mean?
Well, if there are 3 of you, you aren't exactly "lone", are you?
I have no idea what you're saying.
"Da ist ein Technölüst in mein Unterpanten!"
I admit to being somewhat baffled by it all. If I were an editor I would have posted this story without even thinking that someone might consider it a spoiler.
But if Han is a Storm Trooper, does this mean Han is a clone of Jingo Fet and that makes him the father of Boba.
SW can make for a messed up episode of Springer.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
Or you'll be stuck in a series of trilogies with no meaning except to fund CGI server farms ...
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