Star Wars Episode III Teaser Trailer Today

In other news by base_chakra · 2004-11-04 05:59 · Score: 4, Funny

"... Lucasfilm also indicated that the trailer will be available via Usenet and BitTorrent, and that the complete film was officially released last week on IRC."

Re:In other news by Kredal · 2004-11-04 06:24 · Score: 2, Informative

People moderate things they think are funny as informative, because that way the poster gets a karma point. "funny" doesn't rate karma for some reason.

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Re:In other news by Ryosen · 2004-11-04 08:50 · Score: 3, Informative

Proving that, even on Slashdot, Rodney Dangerfield would get no respect.

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Re:In other news by Cplus · 2004-11-04 17:36 · Score: 1

Speaking of Karma, I don't usually Karma-whore, I'm generally more of an occasional-smartass-comment kind of guy, but I've got a link and after reading a couple hundred comments here, didn't see it anywhere.

Cheers

http://users.megapathdsl.net/~jbaum/swep3teaser.mo v

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Re:In other news by irc.goatse.cx+troll · 2004-11-05 12:35 · Score: 1

I assure you gaining karma is no problem. KarmaWhoring started out as whoring for informative/insightful, not funny. Just look back at the original whore, cmdr^H^H^H^HSignal11.
Getting modded up on slashdot is a game with the difficulty level stuck on easy.
Rather than adding the 50 cap and the stupid word games, they should of added a high score page, and then to combat people with insane ammounts of karma, made it so being modded up has a dropoff relative to your karma; Eg, karma: 10 modded up = karma: 12. karma: 80 modded up = karma: 80.1

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Teaser? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 06:00 · Score: 4, Funny

Telling me George Lucas isn't directing would be a real teaser.

Re:Teaser? by iezhy · 2004-11-04 06:06 · Score: 1

Lucasfilm is just trying to set a new buck-per-movie record
Re:Teaser? by Donoho · 2004-11-04 06:20 · Score: 1

Telling me George Lucas isn't directing would be a real teaser.

Telling me Genndy Tartakovsky was directing would be a Real teaser.

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Re:Teaser? by mpupu · 2004-11-04 08:59 · Score: 2, Funny

I read that as "Tell me George Lucas isn't directing the teaser"
Re:Teaser? by madprof · 2004-11-04 10:04 · Score: 2, Insightful

The original was targetted at children. This explains the ewoks.
You were just younger then so it was OK.
Re:Teaser? by aoteoroa · 2004-11-04 10:15 · Score: 1

My mistake. I followed the imdb link in a parent post, but didn't realize that the link was to a Star Wars TV show, and not the current "revenge of the sith" movie.
Re:Teaser? by Starsmore · 2004-11-04 14:53 · Score: 1

Genndy Tartakovsky also directed the Clone Wars shorts that also aired on Cartoon Network, and in my opinion they were alot better than the last two movies.

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lost it! by theMerovingian · 2004-11-04 06:01 · Score: 4, Funny

AOL customers will be able to download the trailer today

Dang it, where's one of those CD's when you need it?

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Re:lost it! by TheClassic · 2004-11-04 06:09 · Score: 3, Informative

Have you ever tried to cancel your free trial? It is nearly impossible. They tell you all the things you'll miss out on, tell you to enjoy your experience more, tell you that you don't have to cancel yet because you still have 3 weeks left in your free trial, and thats it. No cancellation. I had to call back a second time and deal with the same thing. You have to get pretty mean for them to cancel it. They must get paid a commission for every person who want to cancel that they keep signed up.
Re:lost it! by Leibherk · 2004-11-04 06:17 · Score: 1

The trick is to fax them a short letter saying that you want to cancel making sure to include a signature. It might cost a few cent to send the fax(number is not 800 number), but you dont have to deal with them trying to talk you out of it.

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Re:lost it! by Lehk228 · 2004-11-04 06:17 · Score: 4, Informative

one line will do it "If you do not cancel my subscription i will issue a chargeback and report you as committing credit card fraud"

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Re:lost it! by erasmus_ · 2004-11-04 06:52 · Score: 3, Funny

I completely agree, it's ridiculous. I just went through the same experience that you describe a few weeks ago. When attempting to cancel a free trial that I didn't even use once (long boring story), I spent 10 minutes on the phone with the rep without getting anywhere. He would not let me cancel, telling me that the free time has already been allocated and that I could just call back again, which I kept refusing to do. At one point, I asked him if he's ever heard the phrase "the customer is always right" in his training, and he claimed that he'd never heard that phrase in his life, which actually does not surprise me.

He also refused to put a manager on the line, because supposedly he was in a meeting. After we got disconnected, because I think I started shouting at him and he hung up, I called back and got a more reasonable person on the line, who kept me on the phone for only 5 minutes, after which he told me that there was nothing to do because the first guy already marked the account as cancelled. I hate AOL.

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Re:lost it! by Ironsides · 2004-11-04 07:07 · Score: 1

You got off lucky. There is this one lady at work that used the trial and then it expire. An AOL charge showed up on her credit card bill. She never gave AOL her credit card number. The only way we have been able to figure out that they got it is that she bought something through Amazon. We think they picked up the number through their browser and sent it to a central database. I'm not sure , but I don't think it is legal.

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Re:lost it! by CySurflex · 2004-11-04 07:09 · Score: 1

how do you know where to fax to? does it say it when you sign up ?
Re:lost it! by Leibherk · 2004-11-04 07:19 · Score: 2, Informative

In the aol account help section, if you look around for a while, it has a section on "how do i cancel?"(or something), and that section lists faxing as an option with instructions and the number.

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Re:lost it! by Amazing+Quantum+Man · 2004-11-04 07:26 · Score: 2, Funny

your mom is pregnant with an aol executives child.

Well what do you expect when she runs all over the executive board's table? That was her in those commercials, right?

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Re:lost it! by XMyth · 2004-11-04 07:30 · Score: 1

Funny...I thought the lack of horns on the executives in that commercial was indicitive of them being actors and not actual AOL execs.
Re:lost it! by tntguy · 2004-11-04 07:47 · Score: 5, Informative

(general tip here) Never ask to be transferred to a manager. End your conversation and call back. As soon as it's your turn to start talking, ask to speak with a supervisor. If you try to escalate the call with the person you're having a problem with, they will likely warn the supervisor why you want to escalate things -- and it'll only be their side of it -- if they bother to do it at all.
This won't always work, but you'll increase your changes of actually getting to a real supervisor faster.
Re:lost it! by g8x · 2004-11-04 07:48 · Score: 1, Informative

You can download the install from here

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Re:lost it! by Savet+Hegar · 2004-11-04 08:09 · Score: 1

>>You can download the install from here
Ummm.....are you sure it's wise to be posting virus links on Slashdot?

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Re:lost it! by EddWo · 2004-11-04 08:35 · Score: 2, Insightful

I didn't think you could even sign up for a free trial without giving them your credit card. Perhaps she just forgot about it.
I doubt they were listening to all her web traffic, unless they were able to crack the ssl session between her browser and amazon.

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Re:lost it! by IronChef · 2004-11-04 09:20 · Score: 3, Funny

but you're right, if you call to cancel you're screwed.. you'll end up thinking you cancelled but you'll find out later you were given 2 more months free and satan owns your soul and your mom is pregnant with an aol executives child.

That happened in my family and let me tell you, the kid is a total dick.
Re:lost it! by big+daddy+kane · 2004-11-04 09:23 · Score: 3, Informative

my parents had trouble kicking aol, until my dad told the credit card company to refuse all further charges from aol...
Re:lost it! by crimson30 · 2004-11-04 10:30 · Score: 2, Interesting

I tried AOL once for some free access and had no problems at all with cancelling. Perhaps you lack the mocking tone that I used when talking to the rep?

Next time, try asking the rep why on earth you should stick with AOL and then proceed to attack with counterpoints. Eventually they will read something in their script and when you call them on it, they will stumble. I recall the rep mentioning a revolutionary "7 layers of firewall protection" or something of the sort. When I asked what in the hell he was talking about and started getting technical, of course he didn't have a clue.

Se if you turn around the frustration factor and sound like you're having fun at their expense, they'll probably be more likely to want to hurry up and get you cancelled so they don't have to deal with you instead of the other way around.
Re:lost it! by hikerhat · 2004-11-04 10:56 · Score: 4, Interesting

My credit card company (mbna) has a web site where they will generate a temporary credit card number for you. You pick the expiration date and max dollar amount that can be charged to that number. It is great for services that auto-pay themselves when your subscription runs out. I just generate a number with a limit of what one subscription costs. Then they can't charge your card again unless you renew your subscription with a new card number. You have to explicitly renew. And if a database with your card number gets hacked that number is no good anyway. I assume all AOL wants from you to get a free trial is card number. So you could generate a number with a $1 limit that expires before the end of your free trial, and there is no way they can bill you.
Re:lost it! by Lord_Dweomer · 2004-11-04 12:52 · Score: 1

I disagree. Ask to be transferred to a manager, but only after you've gotten the employees information, whatever you can get. Name, employee ID, whatever. You should get that at the VERY BEGINNING of the conversation. Then if they fail to satisfy you in any way (well, almost any way), ask to speak to a manager and if they refuse to put him on, just say "well, you can either get someone above you on the phone right now, or I'll be calling back later and informing the on-duty manager that (insert phone monkey name here) was very rude, and unhelpful and that you might have considered keeping the account, but that they made you lose any desire whatsoever.
When the person on the phone has a vested interest in keeping you happy, its amazing how many hoops they will jump through.
And of course immediately after getting the persons info, I would simply say, "I'm cancelling my account, I don't want an extension, I don't want to use my remaining time, I have no interest in continuing my service and I don't want to listen to any spiel you may have to try to convince me otherwise."
If they don't, thats when you ask for the manager.

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Re:lost it! by Lally+Singh · 2004-11-04 13:10 · Score: 2, Insightful

This works fine for me:

while (true) {
say "No thank you"
}

Don't hold a conversation. They're not, they're reading from a script. Do the same.

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Re:lost it! by Lehk228 · 2004-11-04 13:36 · Score: 2, Insightful

aol broser could catch it before ssl

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Re:lost it! by lzygenius · 2004-11-04 17:03 · Score: 1

They are primarily paid commission instead of an hourly wage according to my Aunt who used to have that job.(yes she repents the sin of working for AOL)
Re:lost it! by CrashPoint · 2004-11-04 20:52 · Score: 1

As a former phone monkey, I can assure you that silly threats such as this will get you less help, not more. Maybe if the monkey in question is on his first day on the job you'll get somewhere, but anybody who's been on the phone for more than a couple of weeks will know that nothing you can do will get them in the slightest amount of trouble.
Oh, the monkey will play your game all right. They'll let you have your illusions of being in control. But you never are, not for a moment. For better or for worse, you are at the monkey's mercy, no matter how obseqious he seems.
Oh, and managers? From the perspective of the customer, they don't exist. Ask/demand to speak to a manager, and if you get anyone else, it's just going to be another monkey. Any help that you get from this new monkey is exactly what the original monkey was going to do anyway, although of course they'll do their best to make it sound like you're getting the red carpet.
Bottom line: If Monkey 1 isn't cooperating, make an excuse to leave, call back, and hope that Monkey 2 is more inclined to help you. I say "make an excuse to leave" because if you just hang up, Monkey 1 will leave a note on your account saying what a punk you are, earning you two strikes with Monkey 2 before you even get to talk to him. Whether you deserve this note or not is immaterial.
Re:lost it! by irc.goatse.cx+troll · 2004-11-05 12:42 · Score: 1

I'm too lazy to check the lower scored posts so someone might have pointed this out already, but yes, they do get commision for everyone they talk out of canceling.

My tip: ask them for their full name so you can report them to their supervisor for harassing you when you just wanted to cancle. Should change their attitude.

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Too nervous to watch it by Dekks · 2004-11-04 06:01 · Score: 3, Insightful

I already read the plot leaks, about the lava surfing etc, I'll go see it anyway but I know the moment I see the trailer I'll probably be disappointed.

Re:Too nervous to watch it by war3rd · 2004-11-04 06:41 · Score: 2, Funny

So we get lava surfing in SW:E3 and stair surfing in LOTR:RoK, what can we expect next...? I think some of our favourite franchises are setting an annoying precedent.

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Re:Too nervous to watch it by Pxtl · 2004-11-04 06:47 · Score: 1

Given his past track record and that news, would someone remind me why we still care?
Re:Too nervous to watch it by creep · 2004-11-04 07:15 · Score: 2, Informative

For what it's worth, the stair surfing was in LOTR:TT, not ROTK.
Re:Too nervous to watch it by Joe+Random · 2004-11-04 10:36 · Score: 1

Correct. ROTK was the one with the oliphaunt-trunk surfing.
Re:Too nervous to watch it by bckrispi · 2004-11-04 13:56 · Score: 1

Sad... The crappy british tabloid that mentioned the "Lava Surfing" (and the *only* source to mention this) is the same one that leaked the title "Birth of the Empire". How's that for credibility?? I would think that slashdotters would be more savvy to believe every crappy rumor they read on the Internet. I bet you believe the Yoda Farting one too.
IMHO, if you're disappointed with the trailer, you've gotta be either comatose or have no business calling yourself a fan. There are plenty of things in it that even "prequel haters" will appreciate.

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Re:Too nervous to watch it by bckrispi · 2004-11-04 13:58 · Score: 3, Insightful

A better question is "why do you keep bitching about it"? If you don't like the prequels, don't fricking watch them.

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Re:Too nervous to watch it by alib001 · 2004-11-04 23:16 · Score: 1

I think some of our favourite franchises are setting an annoying precedent.

Bond (, James Bond) was guilty of surfing twice in Die Another Day.

If there wasn't a shark in the first stealth-surf sequence for him to jump then there surely must have been in the second parasail-surf-on-cockpit-canopy on several tidal waves sequence. He, of course, looked like a twat.

At least with Legolas it was done in-character as a dextrous feat.

The best part... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 06:02 · Score: 5, Funny

I think the best part of the trailer is the Jar-Jar decapitation scene...oh wait, that was from a dream I had last night.

Now where did I put that Princess Amadala blow-up doll...

Re:The best part... by stienman · 2004-11-04 06:58 · Score: 1

The one you decapitated last night? Your parents never mentioned that you sleep walk, did they?

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Re:The best part... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 07:36 · Score: 1, Funny

Now where did I put that Princess Amadala blow-up doll...

A Jedi knows no love.
Re:The best part... by ConceptJunkie · 2004-11-04 08:27 · Score: 4, Funny

ObSimpsons

Comic Book Guy: Oh, Jar-Jar. Everyone hates you but me. *Kiss*

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Re:The best part... by Jonathan+the+Nerd · 2004-11-04 14:00 · Score: 1

A Jedi knows no love.
There's actually a good reason for that. You see, Jedi carry their lightsabers on their belts, and as we saw in Ep. 1, the power button on a lightsaber is very prominent and easy to push accidentally. One little accidental bump, and suddenly a Jedi can no longer love. :-(

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Re:The best part... by hairy+balls · 2004-11-08 09:23 · Score: 1

Replying to the first Jar-Jar reference I could find ... I just watched the teaser today and at the end the theme switches to a reggea feel. So Jar-Jar may not be in the movie, but he lives on in spirit.

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this movie will be awesome! by ValuJet · 2004-11-04 06:03 · Score: 4, Funny

a lightsaber duel with hovering surfboards over lava... what genious will lucas think up next?

/sarcasm

Re:this movie will be awesome! by dirtstar · 2004-11-04 06:37 · Score: 5, Funny

Will these surfboards be jumping lava sharks by any chance?

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Re:this movie will be awesome! by Richard+Whittaker · 2004-11-04 07:21 · Score: 4, Funny

Didn't I see that in Highlander 3?

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Re:this movie will be awesome! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 07:52 · Score: 1, Funny

what genious will lucas think up next?

The Deathjar: a Death star dedicated towards the total extermination of the entire rotting Jar Jar race.
Re:this movie will be awesome! by hartba · 2004-11-04 08:03 · Score: 5, Funny

Hovering surfboards?! The next thing you know they'll be converting a Delorean into a Star Cruiser.

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Re:this movie will be awesome! by Dyolf+Knip · 2004-11-04 08:24 · Score: 4, Funny

With friggin laser beams maybe?

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Re:this movie will be awesome! by dabigpaybackski · 2004-11-04 09:24 · Score: 1

Will these surfboards be jumping lava sharks by any chance?
I don't know about the lava part, but this series was jumping sharks when The Phantom Menace was just a twinkle in Lucas' eye, which quite possibly coincided with something involving Ewoks...

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Re:this movie will be awesome! by Mr.Progressive · 2004-11-04 10:52 · Score: 1

ValuJet, you bojo! Hovering surfboards don't work on lava!
Unless you got power!

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Re:this movie will be awesome! by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 16:22 · Score: 1, Funny

All you base are belong to our new "sharks with laser beams" overload, whom I welcome.
Re:this movie will be awesome! by jfengel · 2004-11-04 18:21 · Score: 1

That's your fault for not giving up after Highlander 2 like the rest of us.

Hmm.. by MalaclypseTheYounger · 2004-11-04 06:03 · Score: 5, Funny

I can't imagine how badly Lucas is going to mess up how Anakin becomes Darth Vader.

Maybe replace his light saber with a walkie talkie?

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Re:Hmm.. by Rude+Turnip · 2004-11-04 06:24 · Score: 1

You know, I waited 28 years for Lucas to finish all 6 episodes so I could watch them in order and here you come blabbing about the surprise ending! Damn you to hell!!!!

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Re:Hmm.. by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · 2004-11-04 06:28 · Score: 2, Informative

if you're watching them in order, then this isn't the ending... you're only half-way there...

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Re:Hmm.. by mcwop · 2004-11-04 06:35 · Score: 2, Funny

How Anakin becomes Darth Vader: A mutation of the midi-chlorians caused by a STD picked up from Queen Padme.

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Re:Hmm.. by fiannaFailMan · 2004-11-04 06:35 · Score: 2, Interesting

What I'm dying to know is how Anakin's fall from grace caused him to dump the American accent and adopt the Imperial English accent.

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Re:Hmm.. by CreatureComfort · 2004-11-04 06:46 · Score: 3, Funny

He didn't change accents... that was the fine British engineered voice box he used as part of the Vader helmet.

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Re:Hmm.. by rudeboy1 · 2004-11-04 07:04 · Score: 3, Interesting

You know, that never occured to me until I read your post. Damn. Ewan McGreggor worked like hell to pick up Alec Guiness' accent. There is definitely a large gap between Hayden Christianson's diction and that of James Earl Jones. JEJ definitely sounds much more upper crust, well educated, while HC sounds like a whiny street rat. And by the way, all credit to the way the character was written, I saw "Life As A House." He's a whiny bitch in all his movies.
I wonder why it is that they spent so much time working on Ewan McGreggor, but apparently none on Hayden Christianson.

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Re:Hmm.. by fiannaFailMan · 2004-11-04 07:07 · Score: 1

He didn't change accents... that was the fine British engineered voice box he used as part of the Vader helmet.
No way Jose. When Luke pulled his dad's helmet off at the end of Return of the Jedi, Vader/Anakin spoke with an English accent. "You were right about me," he said. Remember?

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Re:Hmm.. by ArsSineArtificio · 2004-11-04 07:23 · Score: 3, Funny

He didn't change accents... that was the fine British engineered voice box he used as part of the Vader helmet.

Actually, since it's British engineering, the voice box was the entire helmet.

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Re:Hmm.. by Moby+Cock · 2004-11-04 07:25 · Score: 1

Because they knew it would be a waste of time.
Re:Hmm.. by chromaphobic · 2004-11-04 07:28 · Score: 1

Well, Luke was a whiny bitch too, so... like father like son?
Re:Hmm.. by An+ominous+Cow+art · 2004-11-04 08:20 · Score: 1

I assumed it was because Anakin wasn't well educated and came from a backwater planet, and he would pick up some refinement through association with the Emperor and the rest of the higher imperial society.
Re:Hmm.. by ConceptJunkie · 2004-11-04 08:33 · Score: 1

I'm dying to know what caused him to change from an emotionless sulking slug to someone who sounds like one of the most talented voice actors America ever produced.

Oh wait, because in Episode 2 he was played by a emotionless sulking slug* and in Episodes 4-6 he was played by one of the most talented voice actors America ever produced.

*To be fair, I don't know if Hayden Christiansen is an emotionless slug, because Natalie Portman can certainly act and _she_ was an emotionless sulking slug, too. Apparently the director was a talentless slug, director-wise anyway. Christiansen could be a fine actor for all I know.

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Re:Hmm.. by Deanalator · 2004-11-04 08:39 · Score: 1

He didn't change accents... that was the fine British engineered voice box he used as part of the Vader helmet.

Didnt Hawking had similar issues with his speech synthesizer?
Re:Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 08:44 · Score: 2, Funny

> Didnt Hawking had similar issues with his speech synthesizer?

You're right. When Dr. Hawking first got back to work with his new synth, he found several of his students in a break room. He had the synth say something, they were all amazed, and then he cracked them up by adding "I apologize for my American accent."
Re:Hmm.. by chad_r · 2004-11-04 09:23 · Score: 1

I think you missed a cultural reference there. The parent was probably refering to the South Park episode where Spielberg had re-done all his movies to digitally replace guns with walkie talkies, and Lucas had the entire cast of Empire Strikes Back digitally replaced by ewoks.
Re:Hmm.. by fiannaFailMan · 2004-11-04 09:31 · Score: 1

Well it is common knowledge that all evil comes from British accents and all that is good is voiced through American (or Canadian, afterall hayden is Canadian) accents.
The stormtroopers all had American accents. So did Boba Fett in the original versions of the movies, and it was a lot nicer on the ear than the croaking rasp of the guy who played Jango Fett, or whoever did Boba's voice in the Empire Strikes Back redux.

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Re:Hmm.. by ozbird · 2004-11-04 09:32 · Score: 1

Of course - it was made by Lucas. (rimshot)

I reckon that Annakin got the voice box before he joined the Sith - anyone who has had to deal with Lucas products will understand why he turned to the dark side...
Re:Hmm.. by SkippyTPE · 2004-11-04 09:50 · Score: 1

I wonder why it is that they spent so much time working on Ewan McGreggor, but apparently none on Hayden Christianson.

I doubt "they" spent much time on Ewan McGregor. I'm betting Ewan McGregor took the time to work on the accent because he takes his craft seriously. Hayden Christianson... well, we've seen the performances he's turned in.
Re:Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 12:25 · Score: 1, Funny

> I can't imagine how badly Lucas is going to mess up how Anakin becomes Darth Vader.

"I need a new name to fit my new identity. Darth something... Darth, Darth Evil? Darth Earl Jones? Darth Strangler. No, Darth Lukesdad..."
Re:Hmm.. by whovian · 2004-11-04 12:49 · Score: 1

After all, it is the Brits who are known for creating the concept of dimensional transcendentalism, thereby making it possible to stuff a generously sized James Earl Jones into Vader's helmet's voice box.

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Re:Hmm.. by Doom,+Thulsa · 2004-11-04 13:42 · Score: 1

Alec Guinness never told you that I can't help that I'm big boned, you insensitive clod.
Re:Hmm.. by AGMW · 2004-11-04 23:39 · Score: 1

I need a new name to fit my new identity. Darth something... Darth, Darth Evil? Darth Earl Jones? Darth Strangler. No, Darth Lukesdad..."
er .. Darth And-the-whole-world-darths-with-you?

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Re:Hmm.. by unitron · 2004-11-07 04:20 · Score: 1

"Darth And-the-whole-world-darths-with-you?"
Jar-Jar and you Jar-Jar alone.

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Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by BortQ · 2004-11-04 06:04 · Score: 4, Interesting

I call on all slashdotters to join me in a protest against the sucky star wars prequels. Now I know that an all-out boycott would never work with most of you guys (myself too). So this is what I propose:

Wait a minimum of 1 week after the movie's release before seeing it. This act in itself would send a message that people were not happy with the prequels if lots of people did it.

Some people will undoubtedly see it right away. If they say that the movie was actually good, then feel free to go and see it after your week of abstinence. If they say the movie was as shitty as the last 2 then wait 1 more week. Repeat as you see fit.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by jmays · 2004-11-04 06:06 · Score: 5, Funny

Yes! Giving them the same amount of money a week later would REALLY prove a point. You stick it to those execs!

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Donoho · 2004-11-04 06:13 · Score: 4, Insightful

"This act in itself would send a message that people were not happy with the prequels if lots of people did it."

To what end? I suggest you go see the movie as soon as possible and do what movie makers are justifyable terrified of... Tell everyone exactly what you think of it (without spoilers of course) as soon as you exit the theatre. /., IM, SMS, blog, you name it.

It's to late to protest the movies have already been made. The best things to do is tell the truth. If the movie sucks, don't delay the profit, cut it off.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by gjh · 2004-11-04 06:14 · Score: 5, Informative

Oddly enough, it really would stick it to those execs.

I believe that the deal that movie theatres get goes something like this:

The studio gets almost all the revenue for the first week of release. After that it tails off, and theatres start to get more of the revenue.

So - support your local flea pit and watch movies late :-)
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by }InFuZeD{ · 2004-11-04 06:14 · Score: 2, Insightful

Lucas has plenty of money, I think his ego would be hit harder than his pocket if Star Wars didn't do well the first week.
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Coryoth · 2004-11-04 06:20 · Score: 4, Informative

Yes! Giving them the same amount of money a week later would REALLY prove a point. You stick it to those execs!

Surprisingly enough it probably would have at least some effect. Tese days the Hollywood blockbuster films rely on huge opening weekends and huge first weeks to create buzz, attention and momentum for a film. Just consider how much time the media spends discussing which film opened bigger this weekend. If such a boycott actually took place on a large scale it could conceivably suck a lot of the thunder out of Episode 3s opening week and probably create significant negative buzz about the film "not living up to hype" with regard to its failure to open as big as expected. Sure the geeks will go later, but the people that don't care as much will come away with a negative view of the film.

Of course all of this presupposes that the proposed boycott actualy occurs on a mass scale. Which it simply won't. This guy and his friends giving Lucasa the money a week late is, as you say, going to make no difference at all.

I, myself, am simply planning on not seeing the film at all. Perhaps if it's on TV, or a second hand DVD selling for $1 I'll consider it. It doesn't take a huge act of will power - the first two sucked. Badly. Why on earth would I care about this one, which sounds like it has the potential to be even worse?

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by BortQ · 2004-11-04 06:22 · Score: 1

. If the movie sucks, don't delay the profit, cut it off.
You will cut it off more if you don't go and see it right away. Let other people tell YOU that it sucked. Then you won't be contributing any $$$ to the bullshit.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by MagikSlinger · 2004-11-04 06:24 · Score: 4, Insightful

It's not the same amount of money. In the 1st week of business, 80%-100% of your ticket price goes to LucasFilm and Fox. The next week, it drops to 50%-80%, and then a sliding scale after that. In fact, that 1st week is so important that many studios judge the movie's success ONLY by the 1st week (because DVD & rental income is 1-2 years away thanks to Lucas and the "debt" is accumulating interest). So if the majority of fans stay away the 1st week would:

a) Deprive George & Fox of box-office money
b) Send shock waves through the industry
c) Put pressure on George to change the way he makes the films in the future (you heard the rumors of the final triolgy)

I'd say stay away for 2 weeks.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by BenjyD · 2004-11-04 06:25 · Score: 1

>Is it just me, or have special effects not gotten
>visibly better for a couple of years now?

If anything, the over-reliance on CGI has made effects worse. Compare 2001:A Space Oddysey's model shots with any modern computer drawn space film and 2001 looks far more real.
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by forgotten_my_nick · 2004-11-04 06:30 · Score: 1

He's probably doing it to try and cull the herd at the local movie place so he can see the movie faster.

I wonder if Lucas will have any tie ins on the game SWG?
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by eviloverlordx · 2004-11-04 06:33 · Score: 2, Insightful

Ah yes, the usual knee-jerk anti-GL ravings as soon as anything Star Wars-related shows up on this board. If you don't like what he's doing, by all means don't go and see the film. It's unlikely that that all three slashdotters who actually boycott Episode III will have any effect on either GL's bottom line, or the number of people who actually go and see the film. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing it.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Greenisus · 2004-11-04 06:34 · Score: 1

Here's an idea: if you're really so unhappy with giving Lucas money, just buy a ticket to a different film, and then go in to see Star Wars. Most theaters I see don't check the tickets too carefully (it might be tougher if there's a big crowd).
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by dragoncortez · 2004-11-04 06:42 · Score: 1

I actually had this same idea and have encouraged many of my friends to spread the word. I don't know if enough people will actually go through with the boycott to make a difference, but it would be cool if we did.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by quizwedge · 2004-11-04 06:43 · Score: 1

I totally agree! I've been planning for some time to not see it opening weekend. Now if I can just convince my friends so they don't pressure me into seeing it. As some have pointed out, Lucas and Fox make the most money the first week. If we wait a week or two, it will hurt them financially and, more important, their ego as opening weekend won't be the blockbuster they want. If enough of us slashdotters actually boycotted, we could make a difference. Even better, if another movie opens that weekend, drive up the numbers by going to see that one opening weekend.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Kurt+Gray · 2004-11-04 06:47 · Score: 1

No matter what Lucasfilm will still send out the press releases and video news marketing segments showing the usual crowd of groupies camping out at the theater in full costume to be first in line.

By the way, Lucas is announcing later today there will be a Episode III Trailer Special Edition Box Set which is a lot like the Episode III Trailer, except the picture is sharper and all characters are replaced with green screen silhouettes which will make it easier to replace each character for the Episode III Trailer Deluxe HD Gold Edition due out in 2008.
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by dswensen · 2004-11-04 07:10 · Score: 2, Funny

Wait a minimum of 1 week after the movie's release before seeing it. This act in itself would send a message that people were not happy with the prequels if lots of people did it.

I'll see your week and raise you "don't see it at all."

I'm never spending another nickel on anything Star Wars-related. I spent most of my youth buying Lucas's stuff, and he gave me a giant middle finger in return.

To quote The Who, I won't be fooled again.
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by gosand · 2004-11-04 07:12 · Score: 1

I'd say stay away for 2 weeks.

I didn't see Attack of the Clones in the theater. I waited until it was out on DVD, and I rented it about a month after it was out. Thank god for the ability to FFWD. You know what? I didn't miss out on anything. When you go see a movie on opening weekend, what are you getting? Nothing. Bragging rights? The joy of seeing a movie with a crowd? Personally, I would rather see a movie just before it leaves theaters, if in the theater at all. I would actually rather watch it at home. I'll only go to the theater to see movies that I am really looking forward to seeing. And anything by George Lucas is most certainly not on the list.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by orthancstone · 2004-11-04 07:13 · Score: 1

While in most cases you'd be right on how much money they get, Lucas forces a different deal. I remember that back during The Phantom Menace (when I worked at a movie theatre), he got pretty much near 100% of profit for the first 3 weeks and a major share of it for the 5 weeks following that. The bastard cleans up no matter what.
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by cparisi · 2004-11-04 07:37 · Score: 1

Ok, but what if I actually *like* the prequels. Do I get to see it a week early?
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by MadChicken · 2004-11-04 07:47 · Score: 1

In my (limited) experiences, if you see the early evening opener (6:30-7PM) there's a half-full theater. It's the 9:30 show that gets packed-out. At least around here.

Of course, it could be said that yes, you do miss the joy of seeing a movie with a crowd. Sometimes the crowd-response is quite enjoyable. Ok, cue the bad experiences, NOW. Heh.

I thoroughly enjoyed the opening of Sky Captain. It was well worth seeing on the big screen.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by gl4ss · 2004-11-04 07:53 · Score: 1

I gave episode one the chance of being good..

and went to see episode 2 too, thinking that the episode 1 was just a serious cock up and ep2 would kick ass like empire strikes back.

now I don't have much hopes for ep3.. so I'm seriously thinking of just waiting for it on dvd to loan.

like.. the factory scene in ep 2..

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by mcmonkey · 2004-11-04 08:03 · Score: 1

I'll see your week and raise you "don't see it at all."

Word. What part of being a geek means you have to be a sucker? Saw the first trilogy in theatres--waited in line a couple hours for the first showing of Jedi--they were good. Saw TPM in theatre--it sucked.

So when AotC came around, I waited for it come out on cable; caught bits and pieces; Portman's a hottie. For the next, and all future SW movies, I'll do the same.

Of course, I cannot understand why people still go to Star Trek movies. If you got hit with a bucket of shit everytime to went to a particular place, how long until you stop going to that place?

Last original cast ST movie I paid to see was Search for Spock. One shit bucket is enough for me, thank you very much.

I did see Generations in the theatre, then waited for First Contact to hit HBO, and done. Haven't see any of the ST movies since then. Unless I hear some rave reviews from all sides, I'm done with new Star Trek--movies and TV.

I really have no urge to see any Sith trailers. Quite the opposite, I'm avoiding them. I admit, I still hold some nostalgia for the Star Wars universe, and even if I won't go to a theatre for it, I will see the next movie when it's out on cable.

I figure my best chance to enjoy it will be to have some surprises. Otherwise, why bother?
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by WinDoze · 2004-11-04 08:12 · Score: 1

Very sneaky... Trying to get us all to hold out so YOU can get in to the first showing!
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by zerocool^ · 2004-11-04 08:20 · Score: 2, Informative

Last original cast ST movie I paid to see was Search for Spock. One shit bucket is enough for me, thank you very much.

I did see Generations in the theatre, then waited for First Contact to hit HBO, and done. Haven't see any of the ST movies since then. Unless I hear some rave reviews from all sides, I'm done with new Star Trek--movies and TV.

I agree with the rest of your post, but come on! This is a really easy one to solve!

1.) Star trek the motion picture.
2.) The Wrath of Khan
3.) The search for spock
4.) The Voyage Home
5.) The final frontier
6.) The Undiscovered country.
7.) Generations
8.) First Contact
9.) Insurrection
10.) Nemesis

The even ones are good. It's as simple as that. There; all your star trek movie problems solved.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by StalinsNotDead · 2004-11-04 08:36 · Score: 1

If such a boycott actually took place on a large scale it could conceivably suck a lot of the thunder out of Episode 3s opening week and probably create significant negative buzz about the film "not living up to hype"

Especially if a prequel of Gigli grossed more in the same weekend.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by StalinsNotDead · 2004-11-04 08:43 · Score: 1

Ok, but what if I actually *like* the prequels. Do I get to see it a week early?

Yes, but only if you promise to start taking your medication again.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by PMuse · 2004-11-04 08:52 · Score: 1

Why bother to go? Just blog from the previews.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Ryosen · 2004-11-04 09:07 · Score: 3, Insightful

Ordinarily this is correct. However, The previous two prequels had special deals whereby the studios retained a very high percentage for a longer period of time.

Since the success/popularity of a movie is measured by its opening weekend, waiting a week would, in fact, have a negative effect on the studio's perception of the film's performance. Yes, in the end, it's all about the final gross receipts, but the opening weekend carries an inordinate amount of weight.

Also, with respect to the crappy deals that the movie theaters have to accept in order to show the film (like they have another choice?), if you want to support your local cinema, spend some cash at the concession stand. That's where they make the bulk of their actual revenue. Although, and this was true for the prequels, the movie studio takes a percentage of the snack bar, too.

Still, support your local cinema - buy that large tub of popcorn. Colon be damned.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Hank+Reardon · 2004-11-04 09:10 · Score: 1

I thought that Nemesis broke that rule...

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by zerocool^ · 2004-11-04 09:25 · Score: 1

Eh, kinda-sorta. The Undiscovered Country wasn't that good either, and I think Nemesis is on par with it. Nemesis wasn't bad, it just wasn't Wrath of Khan or First Contact. It's still far better than search for spock.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by kin_korn_karn · 2004-11-04 09:56 · Score: 1

Colon be damned.
I had one of those at taco bell the other day
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Ender_Stonebender · 2004-11-04 09:57 · Score: 1

1) This a web site, not a "board".

2) Did you even stop to think that the original poster might have thought this through instead of having a knee-jerk anti-Lucas reaction to anything? No, you didn't, because if you had, you would have realized that a knee jerk reaction would have the OP not seeing the film AT ALL.

3A) I'm not going to go see it, and that reduces the number who see it by at least one. One person is probably not enough to change the numbers that will be reported for how many people see it, but it's still a change in the number who see it.

3B) There's going to be more than three people who were so unhappy with the last two movies that they won't go see it.

4) Whoever the asshole that modded this "Insightful" is, he should have his moderation privileges removed.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Yoda's+Mum · 2004-11-04 10:08 · Score: 1

That's actually spot-on. Though Nemesis was a bit lacking, not really in the league of the other even-numbered movies. Still, a good movie.
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Greyfox · 2004-11-04 11:23 · Score: 1

Not only am I not going to see this one, I didn't see the second one either. Not even on DVD. Not even as a Blockbuster rental.
I have a limited tolerance for seeing movies in theaters and only manage to get out to them about twice a year. This largely due to my objections to paying $10 and still being subjected to half an hour of commercials before the show. Especially those self-rightous MPAA commercials. Those really piss me off.
So anyway the upshot of that is that if Lucas wants to make chidren's movies that's fine, but he's not going to get another dime from me unless I have kids. And hopefully my kids will have no higher tolerance Lucas' prepackaged cheez-whiz plots than I do.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by eviloverlordx · 2004-11-04 11:27 · Score: 1

1) Whatever

2) There are many types of kneejerk reactions. Your response is one of them.

3A) Ok.

3B) It's called sarcasm.

4) Well, I'm worried now.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by aztektum · 2004-11-04 12:49 · Score: 1

or if you have "cheap" theatres, wait a month or 2 before u see it. 3 bux for a night showing is about all i plan to spend on this one.

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by xSauronx · 2004-11-04 13:53 · Score: 1

wont work, i knew the second one was going to suck and went to see it anyway
hi my name's david and im addicted to star wars =( please send leia pics

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Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by jfengel · 2004-11-04 18:25 · Score: 1

Ya might want to listen to the reviews before deciding whether or not to see it. Yeah, the first two sucked, but the second one was better than the first. And this is the one with all the tie-ins to Ep IV, which for my money was still the best of the lot.

And the special effects will be a lot prettier if you see 'em on a big screen with the good sound.

So let it come out, listen to your friends, and then decide. Cuz it would suck to miss out on a good movie just because you want to stick it to Lucas.
Re:Hit Lucas Where It Hurts by Coryoth · 2004-11-05 07:21 · Score: 1

So let it come out, listen to your friends, and then decide. Cuz it would suck to miss out on a good movie just because you want to stick it to Lucas.

I have no interest in "Sticking it to Lucas", I just have no interest in paying money to see a film that I have every expectation will be bad. Listening to early reviews doesn't help either. The people first coming out of Ep 1 thought it was great. The people coming out of Ep 2 were saying "Wow, so much better than Ep 1". To be honest I thought Ep 2 was no better than Ep 1. It had more interesting action scenes, but it also had far more cringe worthy scenes. They were both crap in my opinion. If you thought Ep 2 was an improvement, by all means go to Ep 3 as yo may find that to be improved yet again... myself, I saw no improvement, and no reason to waste money on Ep 3.

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CmdrTaco's Personal Vendetta? by DLWormwood · 2004-11-04 06:08 · Score: 4, Funny

from the post-links-if-they-show-up dept.

Admit it, you created /. just to wage guerrilla warfare on the Internet, didn't you? Comments like that are just a form of boasting; you've created Frankenstein's monster and set it loose.

Frankendot smash server, arrrgggh!

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Re:CmdrTaco's Personal Vendetta? by euxneks · 2004-11-04 09:39 · Score: 1

I haven't actually laughed at a comment modded funny in a long time. =D Thanks.

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Who cares? by Ender_Stonebender · 2004-11-04 06:09 · Score: 2, Funny

Episode I was bad, just barely watchable. Episode II was so terrible that I sat through it once. My girlfriend bought the DVD as soon as it came out and it has *NEVER* been in the DVD player.

I can only imagine how incredibly bad Episode III will be.

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Re:Who cares? by wibskey · 2004-11-04 06:42 · Score: 2, Insightful

Why is *every* negative comment about the prequels moderated as trolls? They did suck. Moding people down isn't going to change that fact.

Bitorrent located here... by StressGuy · 2004-11-04 06:10 · Score: 5, Funny

...that's what I'd be saying if I knew where I bitorrent file was located, but I just had to take this opportunity to tell you about the wonderful world of Arghway products. From the Orange-marmalaid and tomato paste shoe brightening products, to thier soy toothpaste/hemmeroid cream (yes, now you can eliminate the worry of getting those to products confused early in the morning).

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Re:Bitorrent located here... by Hawkxor · 2004-11-04 06:38 · Score: 2, Informative

This is a video that was leaked ages ago, not the trailer.

It's up! by xTK-421x · 2004-11-04 06:11 · Score: 4, Informative

Go go go!

http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/member/episode- iii/release/trailer/teaser.html

(Hyperspace Required)

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Re:It's up! by the+morgawr · 2004-11-04 06:16 · Score: 1

Anyone know where we can get it for free?

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Re:It's up! by Str8Dog · 2004-11-04 06:18 · Score: 4, Insightful

This is almost as lame as exclusive game demos on FilePlanet... why the hell are they asking for money to see a teaser? that will get the word out for sure..

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Re:It's up! by Naikrovek · 2004-11-04 06:22 · Score: 1

lucasarts want's nothing to do with consumers that are only HALF committed to their products.

you are therefore ignored. as am I. as is every intelligent person.

its the same elitism that makes GL refuse to listen to anyone who actually has a rational thought about his movies. he's making them his way no matter what.

we also just voted in a president that is the same way. yay democracy.
Re:It's up! by tepples · 2004-11-04 06:25 · Score: 1

Bandwidth to survive a Slashdotting of a video costs money.
Re:It's up! by drakaan · 2004-11-04 06:34 · Score: 1

You *have* heard of bittorrent, right?

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Re:It's up! by Apiakun · 2004-11-04 06:41 · Score: 1

A friend just told me he is going to go see the trailer tonight at 12:01 before the Incredibles. He is not, however, staying to see the movie. $8.50 for a trailer? *rolls eyes*
Re:It's up! by erasmus_ · 2004-11-04 07:19 · Score: 1

Considering that every indication has been that The Incredibles is going to be a great movie, I would venture a guess that your friend doesn't have very good taste in movies. Pixar + Brad "Iron Giant" Bird = Movie Magic. The tag line for the Shrek 2 DVD should have been "The best animated movie of the year (so far)"

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Re:It's up! by CrazyTalk · 2004-11-04 07:40 · Score: 1

Hmmm according to this link:
"We are currently experiencing technical difficulties. Our droids are hard at work bringing the system back on-line. Please try again later. "
Cute.
Re:It's up! by Kombat · 2004-11-04 07:48 · Score: 1

[George Lucas] refuse to listen to anyone who actually has a rational thought about his movies. he's making them his way no matter what.

Uhm, considering that he's financing them, and it's his vision, why shouldn't he make them however he damn well pleases? Should Tolkien have listened to input when writing LotR, or should he have been free to capture his own vision exactly as he wished? Should Hitchhiker's have been a collaborative effort, or do people enjoy them because the genuinely like Douglas Adams' own original work?

I can't believe you're critisizing a director for making the movie the way he wants. That's what makes him a director, and not just a manager! If you like what he makes, then great. If not, then don't go see the movies.

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Re:It's up! by santos_douglas · 2004-11-04 08:11 · Score: 1

What? This isn't a game demo? The visual FX are so awful I was sure it had to be.
Re:It's up! by drinkypoo · 2004-11-04 09:32 · Score: 1

Let's all slashdot this site for requiring a stupid membership. :P

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Re:It's up! by |/|/||| · 2004-11-04 10:00 · Score: 1

No kidding. I used to be a big Star Wars fan (I still enjoy the original trilogy) but I have 0 excitement about ep3, which will probably be the worst animated movie of whatever year it comes out.
The incredibles, on the other hand, looks pretty promising. What kind of hand does Bird have in it? The Iron Giant was an excellent movie, which I would highly recommend to anybody.

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Re:It's up! by bckrispi · 2004-11-04 14:08 · Score: 1

The teaser will also be on several tv channels tonight, opening w/ The Incredibles tomorrow, available for free download on starwars.com on monday, and is already on just about every torrent p2p and newsgroup out there.
If anything, it's lucasfilm giving a little bit of priority to those who spent the $40 (ouch) for the Hyperspace/fan club subscription. If I spent that much, I'd expect a little 'special' treatment.

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Re:It's up! by Sputum · 2004-11-04 15:22 · Score: 1

Exactly. It's something to get disappointed about maybe, that Lucas doesn't seem to see things quite the way his fans do, but it's nothing to get angry about.

If one is going to get worked up when someone else's art isn't good enough they should try doing it themselves!

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Re:It's up! by Jugalator · 2004-11-04 20:36 · Score: 1

(Hyperspace Required)

Damn, that's some nasty browser requirements. :-o
Is there a Firefox plugin for that?

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Re:It's up! by mdielmann · 2004-11-04 21:13 · Score: 1

why the hell are they asking for money to see a teaser? that will get the word out for sure

Who said they're trying to get the word out? George had a meeting with his market droids and they came to the conclusion they could make just as much money if they charged people to see 5 minutes as they would if they waited for it to come out in theatres.

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Re:It's up! by erasmus_ · 2004-11-05 02:15 · Score: 1

Brad Bird has a pretty big hand in The Incredibles, considering that he wrote it, directed it, and actually does one of the voices in the movie (Edna Mode). Iron Giant is definitely a modern day animation classic, and if anybody hasn't seen it yet, now is a great time to check it out, considering that a new special edition DVD is about to be released.

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Hey, it's up! by sg3000 · 2004-11-04 06:14 · Score: 5, Informative

The first 45 seconds are from the previous movies (Episode 1, 2, and 4), but the rest looks really cool. Looks like Yoda gets to fight some more, and apparently Darth Sideous has a lightsaber, too. Obi Wan looks like he gets his ass handed to him by Anakin.

I hope the entire movie won't have that yellow "H" in the bottom right hand corner, though. Kinda distracting.

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Re:Hey, it's up! by IBeatUpNerds · 2004-11-04 07:56 · Score: 1

I hope the entire movie won't have that yellow "H" in the bottom right hand corner, though.

You know, if you hold shift and alt when you click the yellow H, it takes you to the official Pentagon conspiracy database. Sorta like the movie "The Net". Try it.

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He already knows this by Infonaut · 2004-11-04 06:16 · Score: 1

Lucas knows his recent films have been panned by the people who loved the original Star Wars trilogy. But he doesn't care if the Slashdot crowd waits a week or two weeks or a year to see his films. He maintains creative control, he makes buttloads of money, and he sees the Star Wars universe as his creation, to do with as he will.

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Also available for AOL Members by xTK-421x · 2004-11-04 06:18 · Score: 1

http://channelevents.aol.com/movies/broadband/star wars/videovault.adp

Click on "Episode III Trailer" in the upper left and then enter your AOL username and password.

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Re:Also available for AOL Members by TheAngryMob · 2004-11-04 06:26 · Score: 1

Is it just me, or are the AOL servers crushed under the load. Dear lord. We've slashdotted AOL!!!

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Re:Also available for AOL Members by kitzilla · 2004-11-04 18:50 · Score: 1

"We're sorry, this feature is not yet available for Macintosh."
Odd, considering AOL happily sells subscriptions to Mac users.

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Star Wars is so... 20th century by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 06:18 · Score: 1, Insightful

You don't have to see it just because it's Star Wars. That doesn't mean anything anymore. Save your cash and buy a good Star Wars game instead.

Re:Star Wars is so... 20th century by lukewarmfusion · 2004-11-04 08:31 · Score: 1

Man, you couldn't be more right on. I've gotten far more enjoyment out of Jedi Knight 2 than either of the two new movies.
Re:Star Wars is so... 20th century by megarich · 2004-11-04 09:42 · Score: 1

I'll second that. I mean i wasnt even a huge star wars fan but then battle front came out and now its slowly sucking me into the star wars universe. i love that game

lava surfing? by nurb432 · 2004-11-04 06:18 · Score: 1, Insightful

Dear god.. how far into the land of stupid can Lucas go?

I couldnt even finish epII.. 1/2 way and i gave up and turned it off.

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Re:lava surfing? by flyneye · 2004-11-04 06:27 · Score: 3, Funny

Yeah,wait'll you see Burts "Smokey and the Bandit 10: Deliverance" Lucas has actually agreed to direct and theres talk of Natalie Portman riding in the seat beside him.Watch Burt squeeeeeeal as Natalie impales him on her fiber optic sabre.Jerry Reed as his spiritual guide "Yodel". "Use the clutch not the force" With guest cameos from Corey Feldman and Don(Darth) Knotts.

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And you laughed at my AOL address... by CodeWanker · 2004-11-04 06:21 · Score: 4, Informative

Just saw it. Anakin gets red-rimmed yellow contacts to show he's evil. The wookies are taking over where the ewoks left off. Alec Guinness does the narration/explanation for most of the trailer... Thank goodness there was some decent monologues in Star Wars.

Of course, AOL folks get the "The making of" mini documentaries, where we all get to rage at the loving detail of George Lucas retrofitting explanations to his choices. It's fun! Could almost make a drinking game out of them.

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Re:And you laughed at my AOL address... by Glial · 2004-11-04 06:37 · Score: 1

Alec Guinness? Is it dialog from the original trilogy? Because Alec Guiness died 4 years ago.
Re:And you laughed at my AOL address... by NaugaHunter · 2004-11-04 06:55 · Score: 2, Funny

Alec Guinness does the narration/explanation for most of the trailer.

Great. First Lucas replaces him in the end of ROTJ, now he forces him back from the dead to lend credence to the new movie with a voice-over.

Dammit, Lucas! He did you a favor doing those movies in the first place, leave him alone!

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Re:And you laughed at my AOL address... by Reducer2001 · 2004-11-04 07:06 · Score: 1

He didn't replace Alec Guinness, he replaced the guy who played Anakin, something Shaw.

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Re:And you laughed at my AOL address... by ravingsanity · 2004-11-04 07:16 · Score: 3, Informative

No, Alec Guiness wasn't the one replaced in the end of ROTJ it was Sebastian Shaw that was replaced by Hayden Christensen. Alec is still there to Yoda's left (your right).

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Re:And you laughed at my AOL address... by cpt+kangarooski · 2004-11-04 11:11 · Score: 1

Well, Lucas has been killing the original trilogy for even longer.

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Re:See lucas ruin your childhood yet again by Timesprout · 2004-11-04 06:22 · Score: 4, Insightful

First, you dont have to go see it.

Second, if George Lucas fucking about with his own ideas and creations affects your childhood in some way then you are a truly sad individual.

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Re:Direct Link to 4 mirrors by FlunkedFlank · 2004-11-04 06:24 · Score: 3, Informative

That's not the trailer. That's the 5-second preview of the trailer from Entertainment Tonight.

Re:Direct Link to 4 mirrors by techwolf · 2004-11-04 06:25 · Score: 2, Informative

There's only clips of the trailer from Access Hollywood there. There isn't a full trailer.

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Re:Direct Link to 4 mirrors by Str8Dog · 2004-11-04 06:26 · Score: 1

parent is clip from hollywood access TV show, may not be the real thing

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Re:It's up! Nah it's down! by GrAfFiT · 2004-11-04 06:27 · Score: 1

Starwars.com Site Error

We are currently experiencing technical difficulties.
Our droids are hard at work bringing the system back on-line.
Please try again later.
Maybe they should try real human technicians too (or alien or whatever).

The Incredibles? by ebooher · 2004-11-04 06:29 · Score: 4, Interesting

I heard somewhere [Local Radio Station Perhaps?] that the new trailer is supposed to be played at the beginning of The Incredibles movie. Anyone know if there is truth associated to this?

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Re:The Incredibles? by reidhoch · 2004-11-04 07:08 · Score: 5, Informative

It is true, the theatrical trailer airs during The Incredibles.
Re:The Incredibles? by CyberHippyRedux · 2004-11-04 08:43 · Score: 1

I hope you meant "before" The Incredibles - or has product-placement reached a new low?

Usenet by Lord+Bear · 2004-11-04 06:30 · Score: 3, Informative

Its out on usenet.

alt.binaries.starwars

getting it now... May the force be with you.

I have the trailer by That's+Unpossible! · 2004-11-04 06:30 · Score: 1

I downloaded it from AOL, 10MB in size. I am not hosting it, where should I upload it for others to bittorrent?

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Re:Direct Link to 4 mirrors by Hawkxor · 2004-11-04 06:31 · Score: 1

It was a TEASER TRAILER, not the FULL TRAILER. Star Wars teasers in fact show much more than teasers from most other movies.

Mirror right here! by scoser · 2004-11-04 06:32 · Score: 2, Informative

http://odj310388.com/other/videos/medit.mov

Re:Mirror right here! by the_2nd_coming · 2004-11-04 06:38 · Score: 2, Informative

NICE!!!!!!

to all the old fools who get their panties up their crack when Lucas changes something. tough crap.

SEIII looks awsome!!!!

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Re:Mirror right here! by Str8Dog · 2004-11-04 06:39 · Score: 1

thanks this is pretty damn awesome....

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Re:Mirror right here! by Pontiac · 2004-11-04 06:39 · Score: 1

This link is the real deal.. Oh yeah.. looks like it'll suck!

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Re:Mirror right here! by techwolf · 2004-11-04 06:39 · Score: 1

Mod parent up. Working link at the moment.

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Re:Mirror right here! by drakaan · 2004-11-04 06:40 · Score: 1

You, sir are a true gentleman. Thank you.

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Re:Mirror right here! by Bifurcati · 2004-11-04 06:48 · Score: 2, Informative

Good stuff!
Honestly, perhaps the movies weren't as good as the originals, but I still enjoyed them. Watching the trailer definitely gets me enthused about seeing the next one! Both Yoda and the Emperor look like they're going to get some screen time with sabers - awesome!
Actually, that's one thing which I think has been done really well in the preques - the light sabre battles are just awesome.
Ah well, now to wait for the actual trailer.

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Re:Mirror right here! by gamgee5273 · 2004-11-04 07:11 · Score: 1

Rumor has it (and it is only a rumor right now) that Yoda and Palpatine fight each other.
I guess we'll see in six months.
Meanwhile, the teaser looks like Lucas learned his lesson from Jackson and the LOTR movies, but does Vader's voice sound a little off to anyone else? Is it Anakin's state? Or is James Earl Jones just starting to sound old?
Re:Mirror right here! by Bifurcati · 2004-11-04 07:24 · Score: 1

No doubt a little of both of the above :) I guess though we're assuming he's just recovered from a little dip in a bath of molten rock, and that would probably be enough to dry anyone's throat out. Let him have a couple of sips of water and crush a few Trusted Lieutenants' throats, and he'll be right as rain again.
And I have to say, a Yoda vs Palpatine fight would be very impressive indeed. Although, it does raise a question. Yoda only lost against Count Duku (sp? No idea!) because he's a nice guy who had to exert all his efforts holding up the pillar. So, not really a fair fight, and the Count got away. So what happens when/if Yoda fights Palpatine? Obviously, neither wins in the the kill-or-be-killed sense, so I wonder what happens? Pulling the same trick as last time or simply fighting as a stalling tactic while the other get away, etc, is a bit of a cop out. Oh well! Guess we'll find out soon enough (or not, depending on who you talk to!)
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Re:Mirror right here! by Egorn · 2004-11-04 07:25 · Score: 5, Informative

We're have 3 people trying to maintain a live link on this site: http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2782

It can be seen there now.

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Re:Mirror right here! by gamgee5273 · 2004-11-04 07:55 · Score: 1

I don't know what the fight would be over. Clearly, Yoda has to: 1) end up on Dagobah; and 2) lose his lightsaber (after all, why wouldn't he teach Luke some moves if he was the best with a saber in the order?).
It's a fan thought (no basis in fact on this one) that Yoda defeats Dooku on Dagobah, and Dooku dies in the tree-cave that Luke has to enter in ESB. Of course, most people think Anakin has to kill Dooku to become Palpatine's apprentice, so I don't know if I buy the Dagobah fight (but it might work).
Re:Mirror right here! by Bifurcati · 2004-11-04 08:13 · Score: 1

Actually, that's something I don't know - how do you build a lightsaber? Luke builds a new one, so couldn't Yoda? Or was it just that he didn't have the parts available on his humble planet? (Incidentally, does anyone know if Yoda had a ship etc on the planet? Was he stuck there by choice or by necessity?)
Re the moves, I wonder how much of using a lightsaber is taught as moves etc, and how much simply comes from letting the force guide your blade? I don't think we've really seen anything about this? Supporting the force-guiding idea, I guess, is the way Obi-Wan trained Luke, covering his eyes and just letting him feel the force, and also Luke turning off the guidance computer before attacking the Death Star. On the other hand, you'd want to know at least the basics of not chopping of your own arm (or hand... ;)

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Re:Mirror right here! by gamgee5273 · 2004-11-04 08:42 · Score: 1

It is generally agreed that there is an accident that lands Yoda on Dagobah. I can't think of the name of the ship, but I know it's been batted around many of the SW forums for well over a year at this point.
Also, I know the books go into lightsaber construction, but there are two "canonical" sources that touch on it: Shadows of the Empire (the only book Lucas has stated definitely does happen in the SW universe) and the Clone Wars cartoon (technically, however, they are still part of the "Expanded Universe" and Lucas reserves the right not to abide by them if he wants).
A Jedi's final major part of training (before the trials, I guess, but TPM was the first I ever heard of "The Trials"... or, that matter, Qui-gon, or midichlorians, or Naboo or... ) is building his/her own lightsaber. In SOE, Luke builds the green one from materials Obi-wan hid long ago on Tatooine (SOE has a decent story, but pretty dull writing). In CW Luminara Unduli and Barriss Offee are on Ilum, which is supposedly where the Jedi get the crystals for their lightsabers. I have no clue if Ilum will show up in ROTS or not.
BTW: If you have not seen the cartoon, I suggest hunting it down (there have to be bittorrents of it all over the place by now). Even prequel naysayers should enjoy it.
Re:Mirror right here! by Bifurcati · 2004-11-04 08:50 · Score: 1

Heh! Cool - thanks for the info! I'm going to go and see if I can hunt out a copy of the cartoon now...

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Re:Mirror right here! by coaxial00 · 2004-11-04 10:12 · Score: 1

You should take me off there - my 100 megabit line is saturated. It's still working, but at 1kb/s for each of the hundreds simultaneously downloading. At least move me down from the #1 spot on the list :) Josh neverhost.net
Re:Mirror right here! by zr-rifle · 2004-11-04 12:27 · Score: 1

Another good, fast mirror over here:

http://www.ngi.it/filebrowser3.php?f=3223

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Re:Mirror right here! by gotmemory · 2004-11-04 14:02 · Score: 1

Direct links:
http://neverhost.net/public/full.mov
http://www.cornstar.net/ep3tease.qt
http://www.worldofepic.net/ep3.mov (Seems to only be teaser)
http://www.corrosiveproductions.com/files/mirrors/ starwars/starwars3trailer.mov (Verified by me as of 8:00)
http://www.crackabit.com/home/ep3teaser.mov (Seems to only be teaser)
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dbldn11/ep3.mov
http://www.jackpearce.info/full.mov (Verified by me as of 8:00)

Torrents:
http://www.numbski.net/downloads/sw3trailer.torren t
http://www.filerush.com/torrents/swep3-480.mov.tor rent

Pay for the honor of watching an advertisement by Jooly+Rodney · 2004-11-04 06:34 · Score: 5, Funny

It's nice that you have to be a member of some shitty online Star Wars site (or one of its affiliates) to watch an advertisement for the new Star Wars movie. It's like paying to beta test a new version of Daikatana.

Re:Pay for the honor of watching an advertisement by Sepper · 2004-11-04 06:55 · Score: 1

yep... and they keep comming back for more :)

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Re:Pay for the honor of watching an advertisement by Kombat · 2004-11-04 07:51 · Score: 1

t's nice that you have to be a member of some shitty online Star Wars site (or one of its affiliates) to watch an advertisement for the new Star Wars movie.

Is it really any dumber than paying $40 for a T-Shirt with a big Nike "swoosh" emblazened on the front? Congratulations, you just paid $40 for the privilege of being a walking billboard for Nike.

Consumers are brainwashed.

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Re:Pay for the honor of watching an advertisement by drinkypoo · 2004-11-04 09:29 · Score: 1

Just because sticking my hand in a blender isn't any dumber than dangling my nutsack over the pirahna tank doesn't make the blender thing good.

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Re:here it is by SGreth · 2004-11-04 06:36 · Score: 1

Dead link....

Got it! by numbski · 2004-11-04 06:36 · Score: 4, Informative

Spread the seed my breathren!

Torrent!

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Re:Got it! by Hawkxor · 2004-11-04 06:43 · Score: 1

hmmm...there's 200 connected peers with 0% downloaded and 0 connected seeds on this torrent. And I was wondering why it was taking so long.
Re:Got it! by numbski · 2004-11-04 06:52 · Score: 1

Something's wrong. I'm trying to fix it as we speak.

Sorry!

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Re:Got it! by ArsSineArtificio · 2004-11-04 07:26 · Score: 2, Funny

I'll take "Imaginary Star Wars Trivia" for $400.

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Re:Got it! by opiespank · 2004-11-04 08:17 · Score: 1

I will seed this from my work OC3 when I get it downloaded. It will be seeded by me till 5:15CST.
Re:Got it! by numbski · 2004-11-04 11:04 · Score: 3, Informative

Sorry guys but I just got a takedown notice from Lucasfilm:

Dear Webmaster,
It has come to our attention that your website,
http://www.numbski.net/downloads/sw3trai ler.torren t is posting
unauthorized copies of content (Episode III Teaser Trailer) from the
Official Star Wars website (www.starwars.com
) and in particular, content from the
subscriber-only area of the site - Hyperspace
(www.starwars.com/hyperspace ),
as well as content from Star Wars Insider magazine, a Lucasfilm
publication.

We believe this content is protected by copyright and other laws and its
use elsewhere on your website is a violation of the starwars.com Terms
of Service..

We trust this is an oversight or miscommunication and that any such
content will be removed from your site immediately and no future
re-posting will occur. This will allow us to avoid a more formal
communication in the future.

Thank you for your enthusiasm for Star Wars and thank you in advance for
your cooperation on this matter.

I didn't get this from the 'subscriber only' area. I downloaded from the link in the article at the AOL website.

Weirdness. Sorry guys, I have to kill the torrent. :(

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Re:here it is by techwolf · 2004-11-04 06:36 · Score: 1

No, yank the space from the 2004 part and it sends you to a sign-in page. It may work after that, but I don't use AOL...

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Star Wars Fans = masochist by Jakhel · 2004-11-04 06:37 · Score: 4, Interesting

You know it's funny, all of these "hardcore" star wars geeks complain about the changes and ideas that Lucas comes up with, bash the prequels, etc.; and yet, they will be the ones camping outside of the local Megamovieplex with their Jar Jar sleeping bags dressed in full Jedi costume with toy lightsabers just to see the first showing of the movie. THEN they will go out and buy 10 different versions of that SAME 4-6 movies just to complain about them all over again.

If you think/know it's going to suck so bad, why even go see it? Would you go see Gigli 2 or Bride of Chucky, then buy the DVD and collectors edition DVD just to complain about them as well?

My point is that no one is forcing you to watch the movies. If you don't like them or the direction they're heading in, then don't support them. Unfortunately, this is the only way Lucas will get the message because he has already publicly stated that he doesn't give a fuck about the fans' opinions; and why should he since he is practically the RJ Rynolds of the Sci Fi world with millions (if not billions) of addicts feening for just a taste.

Re:Star Wars Fans = masochist by davew2040 · 2004-11-04 08:00 · Score: 1

For all the Lucas bashing I see in every Star Wars thread, I see dozens of these as well (except these tend to be modded higher). Do you just paste them straight from old threads or what?
Re:Star Wars Fans = masochist by geekoid · 2004-11-04 09:46 · Score: 1

"If you think/know it's going to suck so bad, why even go see it? "
Yes, but they don't have the force. The force is powerfull.

I am George Lucas's bitch.

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Re:Star Wars Fans = masochist by merky1 · 2004-11-04 11:52 · Score: 1

"If you think/know it's going to suck so bad, why even go see it? "

Because maybe, just maybe, since there is so much ground to make up in this one, there won't be time for it to suck?

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I hope for more story and less special effects by theshowmecanuck · 2004-11-04 06:37 · Score: 5, Interesting

I hope it doesn't suck as bad as Episodes 1 and 2.

Don't get me wrong. I like the (original) Star Wars. I think the Episode 4 was/is a great movie and I can't count how many times I have seen it. Episode V was very good as well. But I think maybe it is because there was less money involved back then (either for special effects or with merchandising). They had to work on the characters and acting more because they didn't have such a huge budget for special effects (i.e. they didn't rely on special effects as much to 'make' the story).

I think the more they rely on 'green screens' and CGI, the poorer the quality of the movie, specifically the story. And I think when Lucas relies increasingly on the movie to be a big commercial for his merchandising efforts (e.g. Jar Jar Binks) it ruins the movie.

I don't plan on seeing this in the theatre. I plan on renting it. I am gun shy after the last two releases. I don't believe they were worth the exorbintant cost of today's movie tickets (never mind the hassle of going through the morgage application to pay for my popcorn and drink).

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Re:I hope for more story and less special effects by jdavidb · 2004-11-04 07:37 · Score: 2, Funny

That's surprising because most people here really liked Episodes I and II. You must be the only exception.

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Re:I hope for more story and less special effects by zerocool^ · 2004-11-04 08:42 · Score: 4, Insightful

I think the more they rely on 'green screens' and CGI, the poorer the quality of the movie, specifically the story. And I think when Lucas relies increasingly on the movie to be a big commercial for his merchandising efforts (e.g. Jar Jar Binks) it ruins the movie.

You, my friend, are a person of wisdom. This is the number one problem with star wars: To borrow a phrase from Jurassic Park, they were so concerned with whether they *could*, they didn't stop to think if they *should*.

All of this CGI and whatnot has killed the sci-fi industry. Everyone gets a look at these movies, and goes "woah" as they see the special effects, but no one actually thinks about the quality of the movie its self. So, what we have is a situation in which every single solitary moment of a star wars film is visually beautiful, and utterly devoid of life.

You have cardboard cutouts for your human actors, and CGI characters everywhere. Every background is a living microcosm, but after a while, it just looks cluttered, it looks like people wander into the background just to make more motion. You end up with people talking "in the vague direction" of the CGI character, and other missed visual cues. It's horrible. It doesn't make a movie better.

You end out with the Jedi Master of the known universe flipping his shit and flying around a room in a show of physical prowess and cgi flash, but in Empire, yoda denies the need for raw, brutish strength, in favor of mind-over-matter. Yoda, in my mind, should be a character who is powerful by virtue of his presence, not his actions. But, no. CGI could bring him to life. Whether it should have or not, no one stopped to consider.

Add to the top of that the utter marketability of the movies, and it becomes sickening. The pod race scene in TPM? Exists in order to make video games. Jar Jar? Exists because the other actors have no hope of accomplishing situation comedy, as well as to put on lunch boxes.

Star wars has been killed, and Lucas pulled the trigger.

If you want an example of Sci-Fi done right, look at farscape. Brilliant actors. Excellent script writing. Voice-acted puppets where they are needed. Given a bigger budget, rigel and pilot could have been CGI, but why? They are more convincing as puppets. CGI is used for Moya and other space effects, where it's most effective.

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Re:I hope for more story and less special effects by radish · 2004-11-04 09:40 · Score: 1

I largely agree, especially with reference to Lucas' movies. But, this doesn't have to be the case. There are a number of movies which are largely CGI, or even entirely CGI, which are rather good. I'm thinking of Spiderman 2, Shark Tale, Shrek 2 and Sky Captain. I really enjoyed all of those - nothing serious but good solid entertainment.

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Re:I hope for more story and less special effects by Dr.+Evil · 2004-11-04 09:41 · Score: 1

I have to agree mostly... the pod-race though was a cool idea. The movies always seemed to have that kind of thing. The Death star, the land walkers, land speeders on Endor, the Millennium Falcon in the asteroid belt, scenes like that where there's some cool sci-fi setting for some incredible battle or chase or something. I think all of the examples I gave were turned into games at some point or another.
The pod-race was a little bit lacking in execution... or maybe it was all the crud around the pod-race which detracted from it, but it was one of the few things IMHO, which had some of the spirit of the original films.
I thoroughly agree that the Yoda stuff was stupid, but plenty of people disagree with me on that, so it must have had some audience... just not me.
I caught the second film on DVD and couldn't stop laughing at it. I don't think I've watched it end to end. The third one I'll probably miss altogether unless it gets good reviews.
Re:I hope for more story and less special effects by rhombic · 2004-11-04 13:45 · Score: 1

I don't think anyone (who has some rational thoughts) would disagree that Lucas has an incredible imagination, and a real skill at developing the outline and concept for a great movie-- it's when he tries to write dialog and direct it that his skill level drops down below that of a ten year old with a camcorder.

Why was TESB the best movie of the original trilogy? Somebody else wrote the dialog and directed it (ahem, co-wrote and co-directed). Sadly, Lucas is powerful enough to do it his way now-- Get me more Ewoks!

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Re:I hope for more story and less special effects by ryanmfw · 2004-11-04 14:57 · Score: 1

I'd say an even better examle would be "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." It was written and worked on by primarily one guy over several years, until he had two minutes of footage to use to convince studio execs to invest in it. Even though it has good cg, it also has a good storyline(although character development could have been better). Farscape is also good, although sometimes too weird for my tastes. ;-)

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Download here... by WhoDang · 2004-11-04 06:47 · Score: 1, Informative

http://206.208.58.220/ep3.mov

enjoy.

Re:Direct Link to 4 mirrors by Hawkxor · 2004-11-04 06:49 · Score: 1

You didn't download the right file.

The file we're all talking about is indeed a trailer. You downloaded a segment of Access Hollywood. And the trailer is more like 40 seconds long.

Re:here it is by zutronics · 2004-11-04 06:53 · Score: 4, Informative

Shucks. Follow the link in my profile for redemption.

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Tracker by numbski · 2004-11-04 06:54 · Score: 2, Informative

Here's the tracker url:

Tracker

I'm using azureus. I think I'm having firewall probs, not sure yet though.

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FIXED! Leech away! by numbski · 2004-11-04 06:58 · Score: 1

So like I have to put text here huh? :)

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Re:Direct Link to 4 mirrors by Sandman1971 · 2004-11-04 06:59 · Score: 1

This isn't the trailer, so don't bother. It's a mirror to the Access Hollywood intro/promo. It shows about 1.5 seconds of the trailer.

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You forgot something from your list... by WIAKywbfatw · 2004-11-04 07:01 · Score: 2, Funny

d) It would give 99 percent of the people wanting to see the movie a better shot at the best seats for the first week.

Really, do you think that George Lucas is concerned about the $50 million you might cost him in your scenario? According to Forbes, the guy is worth $3 billion, and that estimation was calculated before the original trilogy was released on DVD. Even if Episode III was panned by the critics and early audiences he'd still make his money and then some from the deal he has in place with 20th Century Fox, merchandising, etc.

Debt? The guy could probably fund the movie ten times over without having to raid his savings account.

Stay away for two weeks if it gives you a warm fuzzy glow inside. Just don't pretend that it'll make a blind bit of difference to how Lucas does business or interacts with his audience.

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It's for you! by mrpuffypants · 2004-11-04 07:02 · Score: 1, Informative

http://www.tomservo.net/etc/vid/starwars3teaser.mo v

Destroy my server!

Re:It's for you! by mrpuffypants · 2004-11-04 07:05 · Score: 1

http://www.tomservo.net/etc/vid/starwars3teaser.mo v

Well, now don't I look dumb =[
Re:It's for you! by GreyWolf3000 · 2004-11-04 07:20 · Score: 1

I'm totally going to seed this on bittorrent if it isn't already...thanks!

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Re:It's for you! by ParnBR · 2004-11-04 07:20 · Score: 1

Thank you! =) It was really nice of you. I hope it didn't cause you any trouble.

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Re:It's for you! by yorugua · 2004-11-04 07:26 · Score: 1

I'm trying http://www.tomservo.net.nyud.net:8090/etc/vid/star wars3teaser.mov and downloading..!! Let's see if we get a mirror as a side effect.
Re:It's for you! by stienman · 2004-11-04 07:31 · Score: 2, Informative

It's also cached at .

-Adam
Re:It's for you! by mrpuffypants · 2004-11-04 08:49 · Score: 4, Informative

Well, I just got a cease and desist for posting the video of supar sekrat Episode III:

> Dear Webmaster,
> It has come to our attention that your website,
> http://www.tomservo.net/etc/vid/starwars3teaser.mo v is posting
> unauthorized copies of content (Episode III Teaser Trailer) from the
> Official Star Wars website (www.starwars.com) and in particular,
> content from the subscriber-only area of the site - Hyperspace
> (www.starwars.com/hyperspace), as well as content from Star Wars
> Insider magazine, a Lucasfilm publication.
>
> We believe this content is protected by copyright and other laws and
> its use elsewhere on your website is a violation of the starwars.com
> Terms of Service..
>
> We trust this is an oversight or miscommunication and that any such
> content will be removed from your site immediately and no future
> re-posting will occur. This will allow us to avoid a more formal
> communication in the future.
>
> Thank you for your enthusiasm for Star Wars and thank you in advance
> for your cooperation on this matter.
>
> - Lucasfilm, Content Management
> http://www.starwars.com || http://www.indianajones.com
Re:It's for you! by MouseR · 2004-11-04 09:10 · Score: 1

Woah... Palpatine with a light saber... that ought to be interesting. And more Kermit action.

And somehow, I knew Vador was into bondage.
Re:It's for you! by Buran · 2004-11-04 09:11 · Score: 3, Funny

A pirate you were meant to be? ... they even included the slashcode-fubared-rogue-spaces link. Obviously, they have minions reading geek forums... so they know people are disappointed in the quality of their stuff. And ignore all the comments. Yup. They're egotists for sure. Now, they did make the movies so they don't HAVE to listen to customers... but it's a good idea to -- and pays off later.

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Re:It's for you! by finkployd · 2004-11-04 09:54 · Score: 1

they even included the slashcode-fubared-rogue-spaces link.

Are you sure? Is it possible that since this IS slashdot, it just furbared the link when he posted it just now? :)

Finkployd
Re:It's for you! by Saeger · 2004-11-04 14:06 · Score: 2

How dare you distribute their Advertisement without permission! :)
Even though I despise what's become of Star Wars, I'll be seeding the FileRush torrent until I've got a 10X up/down ratio just to spite those greedy "Members Only" fucktards.
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Re:It's for you! by Buran · 2004-11-04 14:26 · Score: 1

Good point. Could even be both. ;)

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Re:It's for you! by complete+loony · 2004-11-04 16:16 · Score: 1

It's not like they could have found that link via google yet. How else do you propose they found all these links so fast? Hmmm?

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Re:It's for you! by complete+loony · 2004-11-04 16:18 · Score: 1

So, dont post any more torrent here. Post them in other topics or in your journal, they may last longer.

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Re:It's for you! by finkployd · 2004-11-05 00:11 · Score: 1

I don't know. The force?

Finkployd

Spoiler by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 07:08 · Score: 4, Funny

Episode III begins with "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way...

Re:Spoiler by coaxial00 · 2004-11-04 09:59 · Score: 1

ah shit, way to ruin it. I won't even bother renting it now. asshole.
Re:Spoiler by xSauronx · 2004-11-04 14:08 · Score: 1

the teaser is mostly stuff from the other 5 movies as it is....nevermind that what *is* from episode 3 looks awful.
lava scenes reminding me of LOTR shots at mt doom; hayden with the lame yellow/red contacts on, darth vader being raised in the cheesiest way i have ever seen...i mean jesus, young frankenstein had the creature brought to life better...more wookies than i had ever wanted to even think about seeing at once.
I watched the Empire STrikes Back today and Vader is just....awesome. Just this great villain. And then you see him "rise" strapped to a table like the emperor-to-be had been using some foreign object on him almost made me punch my monitor. Ill see this, most likely rent it from netflix rather than see it in a theatre....but i have this terrible feeling that Ill be cringing through most of it.

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OK, Now Shuddup in Advance by Spencerian · 2004-11-04 07:08 · Score: 2, Insightful

The first person who says that George Lucas stole their childhood will have the spleen stolen, forcibly.

For more clarification on how you should feel about this issue, please note this commentary by this popular game developer.

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Re:OK, Now Shuddup in Advance by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 07:26 · Score: 4, Funny

George Lucas stole my childhoo...Aaaaugh! My spleen!
Re:OK, Now Shuddup in Advance by greatmazinger · 2004-11-04 08:41 · Score: 1

No. They didn't steal my childhood. How the heck would that be possible for them? But Lucas ruined a perfectly good movie.
Re:OK, Now Shuddup in Advance by SeaDour · 2004-11-04 09:21 · Score: 2, Informative

Um, Kurtz is not a game developer, he's a web comic artist. Big difference.
Re:OK, Now Shuddup in Advance by drinkypoo · 2004-11-04 09:36 · Score: 1

More to the point (for me) the fans want the original movie, but he decided his way was better. The fans disagree. He doesn't care. To me that is the primary reason to avoid his movies - he doesn't give a fuck about you, he knows you'll eat whatever's in the trough. Make the right decision, and download the original movie from a LD rip. You'll be glad you did.

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Re:OK, Now Shuddup in Advance by daeley · 2004-11-04 11:13 · Score: 1

George Lucas stole my childhoo...Aaaaugh! My spleen!

George Lucas stole my splee...Aaaugh! My childhood!

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Re:It's up! - it's down... by pete-classic · 2004-11-04 07:11 · Score: 1

We've gotta be able to get some kind of reading on that server, up or down.

It's a trap!

-Peter

and down! by brauwerman · 2004-11-04 07:18 · Score: 1

mirror down. that was quick. mod parent down today, up tomorrow.

YES!!! by StressGuy · 2004-11-04 07:22 · Score: 1, Insightful

The cartoon link pretty much nailed it. Star Wars was never "high-literature" OK?. It's an enjoyable little Sci-Fi yarn chok full of eye-candy and action scenes. They had lazer crossbows for crissakes!!!

All of you who need to rip on how George Lucas ruined your childhood need to just sit down and shut up so the rest of us can enjoy the movie.

thank you and goodnight...

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Extremely fast mirror by nakedbonzai · 2004-11-04 07:23 · Score: 3, Informative

Mirror here

...at 500kb/sec. Well, not for long I'd imagine!

Re:Extremely fast mirror by yorugua · 2004-11-04 07:31 · Score: 3, Informative

and just in case : http://mywebpages.comcast.net.nyud.net:8090/traile rnews/full.mov
Re:Extremely fast mirror by theanonymousbrit · 2004-11-04 10:43 · Score: 1

Likewise: theanonymousbrit.com/starwars has small and medium sized versions from AOL.
Re:Extremely fast mirror by theanonymousbrit · 2004-11-04 14:14 · Score: 2, Informative

My provider is soon to disable my site until 12:01 AM tomorrow (Friday) morning due to my exceeding bandwidth restrictions. I've torrented the files, but if my site is suspended, there goes my tracker. I've mirrored the files themselves here. This is where I'll post updates.

Better idea by sg3000 · 2004-11-04 07:26 · Score: 1

> I call on all slashdotters to join me in a protest against the
> sucky star wars prequels

I call on all slashdotters who want to protest the Star Wars prequels to boycott all future Star Wars-related stories on Slashdot. That will really show George Lucas. Show him good.

Plus, it will increase the signal to noise ratio for the community as a whole.

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Too Late by Anonymous Coward · 2004-11-04 07:26 · Score: 3, Funny

I have a friend who has a sister who works with somebody who knows a registered member of StarWars.com and they heardd that Lucas felt the trailer did not convey his artistic vision correctly and had it edited digitally. So any trailer you see now is not the original.

Torrent sites by Khuffie · 2004-11-04 07:30 · Score: 1

Its already being seeded on the popular torrent sites out there...wow, it looks stupid, but Natalie Portman is hawt.

Re:Torrent sites by bujoojoo · 2004-11-04 08:01 · Score: 1

Its already being seeded on the popular torrent sites out there...wow, it looks stupid, but Natalie Portman is hawt.

'Hawt' as in 'grits'

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Nah. Buy a ticket to a different movie. by BraveLittleHamster · 2004-11-04 07:36 · Score: 1

You can always "change your mind" once you are passed the ticket takers.

No, this is how Anakin really becomes Darth Vader by cmdrwhitewolf · 2004-11-04 07:37 · Score: 5, Funny

After Queen Padme turns Anakin's ardent requests for sex down for the umpteenth time, he attempts to use 'the FORCE' and due to his raging male hormone levels, when she blasts him with a friggin laser - he spontaneously catchs fire and jumps into the Emporers daily meglomania booster cocktail that was sitting in the balcony below in order to put himself out, and thus earned himself a life sentence of working for the Emporer in order to just pay for the Emporers' ruined shirt...

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Yoda fight by Beardo+the+Bearded · 2004-11-04 07:38 · Score: 1

I found the Yoda fight disappointing. My understanding was that Yoda didn't NEED a lightsaber - they were futile to someone as strong as he was.

Imagine if the end of 2 did this instead:

Yoda walks into Dokku's room, fixing all the tumbling pillars without raising a hand. He yells out, "Dokku!" and we can see the glaze clear from Dokku's eyes.

"Yoda... what ... where am I?"

Yeah, that's better than a pinball fight. It's creepier, too, because there's something that can force persuade a Jedi Master...

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Re:Yoda fight by Bifurcati · 2004-11-04 08:05 · Score: 1

Mmm, I do see your point. But on the other hand, they tried to battle it out using the force (I loved Yoda's block the lightning too) and the were basically evenly matched. Only when they were using light sabres did it become clear that Yoda was the master - in tune with the force, moving smoothly, etc. The light sabre has always sort of represented the physical part of the force, and the "honour" associated with hand to hand combat, as opposed to guns and the like. In some sense, once you're at a certain level, it's the cheap tricks like lightning, force push and the other video game standards that become unimportant. It's just you, your light sabre and the midocl, er, and the force. IMHO, anyway :)

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Re:Yoda fight by Number14 · 2004-11-04 10:13 · Score: 1

But on the other hand, they tried to battle it out using the force (I loved Yoda's block the lightning too) and the were basically evenly matched.

No, they didn't. Not really. Telekinesis! Deflect! Telekinesis! Deflect! I was really stoked when I heard they were going to have a force battle because I hoped it would rock- lots of subtle effects, a heat haze of power expanding around them as they stared at each other unmoving as wind picked up, something... instead we got "well, that didn't work, so I'll throw THIS at you!"

*sigh*

I would have prefered never see Yoda use a saber, but I did enjoy the fight. I hope we never see Palpatine lower himself to that point, though, he's much cooler in my opinion as a consummate manipulator.
Re:Yoda fight by TiggsPanther · 2004-11-04 21:26 · Score: 1

I remember seeing this discussed on /. a year or so ago. People thinking that Yoda was "stronger" or "above" needing to fight the way he did. One problem with this would be that if he really could be all-but-unstoppable using the Force then how come everything still went pear-shaped?

I think the best theory I saw here was that, for one thing, this is a somewhat younger Yoda. Possibly something occured between AoTC and ESB that turn him against thinking that fighting is always an answer - quite possibly the events concerning Anakin's turning to Vader. Ep2 Yoda isn't the same as Ep5 Yoda. He's younger. He's one of many many Jedi. Realisation about the Sith threat is still relatively new. In ESB he was tired, in hiding and quite possibly a bit jaded. Something had obviously changed him, and with the very large turnaround in the "World Order" it's a rather believable change.

Also remember that Yoda didn't pull out his lightsaber until he'd tried other methods first. He only drew his weapon as a last resort - which still seems a very Yoda thing to me.

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Re:Yoda fight by TiggsPanther · 2004-11-04 21:48 · Score: 1

I was really stoked when I heard they were going to have a force battle because I hoped it would rock- lots of subtle effects, a heat haze of power expanding around them as they stared at each other unmoving as wind picked up, something...

I'm not sure that would work so well in a film. Certainly I don't think that the more casual viewer would find it quite so interesting.

I've seen that kind of scene before. Subtle tests of power, or even just two opponents facing off, unmoving, playing out possibilities before finally committing to an attack. It does work well, but it was in a TV series where it doesn't take up so much of the overall time in comparison.
Unfortunately in a film it wouldn't necessarily be quite so effective. Especially in a cinema, as these kinds of encounters rarely happen near the beginning of the film. So you'd get two characters standing still, nothing major visibly happening, and the effects of a cinema-size bucket of cola making it's effects known...

Unfortunately, flashy fights do grab your attention. They're also more likely to get more bums on seats, more word of mouth, even more heated discussion if it comes down to it.

I would have prefered never see Yoda use a saber, but I did enjoy the fight. I hope we never see Palpatine lower himself to that point, though, he's much cooler in my opinion as a consummate manipulator.

It's all-but-inevitable that he will use one though. And for the same reasons I think. Although from a pure-story point of view the strongest show of power is never having to actually use it, from a Movie point of view that simply doesn't always work. People want to see people use their powers.

Besides, even if he does then just think about it. In a total of six films (well, five he's visibly in) Palpatine will have only drawn a lightsaber once. Yet still had been basically the Big Bad of the entire saga.

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fast link to full version by coaxial00 · 2004-11-04 07:38 · Score: 3, Informative

In case another mirror is needed, http://neverhost.net/public/full.mov Should be very fast :) Directory listing allowed for this folder.

Re:fast link to full version by Gurp · 2004-11-04 11:04 · Score: 1

5.0KB/s.

You're using some new definition of 'very fast' that I wasn't previously aware of.

link by gmr2048 · 2004-11-04 07:41 · Score: 1

found buried in theforece.net's page:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/trailernews/full.m ov

i have copy by o0m · 2004-11-04 07:45 · Score: 1

i have a copy any one have band width to host it? it is 8.5MB quicktime.

How to play trailer in Linux by dowobeha · 2004-11-04 07:47 · Score: 2, Interesting

OK, I would be really grateful if anyone could tell me how to play this in Linux.

I know that one option is to use the crossover plugin to play quicktime files in Linux. Does anyone know of another option to successfully play this quicktime trailer in Linux?

I've tried totem, xine, and mplayer on Mandrake 10.0. I haven't tried compiling my own copy of mplayer, but I have the codecs, and the output from mplayer makes me think that mplayer is using the quicktime codec. But I still just get a blue screen and no sound when I try to play it.

Thanks...

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Re:How to play trailer in Linux by LeninZhiv · 2004-11-04 09:27 · Score: 1

Well, I can get the video but no sound using just a fresh compile of mplayer (pre5 but this goes back at least a few versions earlier) and the codecs from mplayer.hu. I'd be as happy as you to find a way to get sound in quicktime though...

Try different video outputs if you're getting a blue screen, sometimes when SDL gets screwy it does that. mplayer -vo help to get availible choices. FWIW I have to use mplayer -vo x11 -zoom -framedrop on this machine but this isn't as nice as some of the more advanced options if and when they work. But it beats aa :-)

(I have a habit of changing my X11 resolutions all the time when movies are playing and if I do this using xv I get a snow crash.)
Re:How to play trailer in Linux by machiabelly · 2004-11-04 11:58 · Score: 1

This is a perfect example of why I stopped using Linux. Too often the simplicity of things just working is a luxury in Linux.
Re:How to play trailer in Linux by LeninZhiv · 2004-11-04 13:31 · Score: 1

Mock all you want: the salesman at the computer parts store where I bought this system assured me that I would never be able to view DVDs on it (when I took a DVD-ROM drive without taking an expensive video card). Thanks to mplayer and me knowing my way around a computer I can prove him wrong today: but if you prefer spending money for ignorance rather than gaining it through competence that's your business, the end result is the same.

And to bring this back to the original question, it's not Linux's fault Apple is behind the times with its software support--and this is from someone who would have loved to buy an iPod if only he could use iTMS on his computer...
Re:How to play trailer in Linux by LeninZhiv · 2004-11-04 22:45 · Score: 1

Okay, not happy with my previous response, I've got it working with video & sound now. mplayer is a dead end since it barfs on loading the qdmc codec, which is what this clip is using.

Xine plays the movie just fine, however, on my system, so I would check that you're using a recent enough version of it. (I don't know anything about Xine internals so I can't give any more relevant detail than that.)

Re:No, this is how Anakin really becomes Darth Vad by mcwop · 2004-11-04 07:47 · Score: 1

Now that is really funny.

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Another Strategy by MooseByte · 2004-11-04 07:52 · Score: 1

"I suggest you go see the movie as soon as possible and do what movie makers are justifyable terrified of... Tell everyone exactly what you think of it (without spoilers of course) as soon as you exit the theatre."

I suggest we save our money, never see the movie, and just hang out in front of the theatre telling everyone how patently awful it is. :-)

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bit torrent link for trailer by freonchill2 · 2004-11-04 07:56 · Score: 1

grab the torrent http://www.lokitorrent.com/torrents-details.php?id =55030&hit=1

AOL and Access Hollywood? by gad_zuki! · 2004-11-04 07:59 · Score: 1

Err, how far from the core demographic are they trying to get. I'd expect the trailer to first (or also) hit places like Comedy Central or the Cartoon Network. If not trailers.apple.com

Sure, the marketers know they have the core, but celebrity gossip news is where they choose to unload the trailer?

Re:AOL and Access Hollywood? by Cylix · 2004-11-04 14:22 · Score: 1

It's actually on a lot of places.

A quick google reveals some good spots, but I found the aol one particularly useful as the plugin installs easily within firefox.

http://channelevents.aol.com/movies/broadband/st ar wars/videovault.adp

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Excuse me... by SuperKendall · 2004-11-04 08:01 · Score: 1

I do *NOT* have a Jar-Jar sleeping bag. My Jedi cloak is quite warm enough thanks.

And the lightsaber is a "master replica" not a toy!

Sheesh. :-)

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Fark "Episode III poster" photoshop contest by cant_get_a_good_nick · 2004-11-04 08:12 · Score: 1

Check it out

Hmm, can we slashdot fark, or will it fark slashdot?

Use MrPufflyPants link- by madmaxmedia · 2004-11-04 08:19 · Score: 1

He posted this link to his server a few pages up, it worked for me about 5 minutes ago and is pretty fast- http://www.tomservo.net/etc/vid/starwars3teaser.mo v This link has the whole trailer. A little choppy but pretty good. I for one actually am kinda jazzed after seeing the trailer. FWIW, I hated Ep. 1 and tolerated Ep. 2.

This link worked for me by Black+Cardinal · 2004-11-04 08:25 · Score: 1

http://www.the-trades.com/trailers/ep3.html

19 may by j_sp_r · 2004-11-04 08:35 · Score: 1

What a wunderfull idea to spoil my birthday :D

Re:19 may by Joel+from+Sydney · 2004-11-04 17:05 · Score: 1

My birthday as well! From memory, Episode 1 was released on May 19 as well...

Box-Office vs. Distrubutor by ryth · 2004-11-04 08:45 · Score: 1

Actually, having worked in the film distribution industry I'd have to debate these figures.

In the first week you usually would get between 55-65% of box office on the first weeks take, however since this is such a huge release I'd say it would run more about 75% at most. Second week would usually drop 5%, and then after that you usually drop to 40-50% of total take. After week 4 you may go as low as 35%.

Now this number of course is what goes directly to the distributor. The amount that goes to the filmmaker themselves would be negotiated outside of that.

Re:Box-Office vs. Distrubutor by MagikSlinger · 2004-11-04 14:30 · Score: 1

Actually, having worked in the film distribution industry I'd have to debate these figures.

How long ago? Because it changed around the time Godzilla (Emerich & Devlin's version) was released. Sony managed to extort an 80% first week (then a record). Although I'm not following every release, I've heard the big releases are charging in that range too. And I also heard the rumor of 100% first week take for Fox & Lucas, but I can't find confirmation anywhere. Thus my comment.

The days of making a honest buck just from ticket sales is dwindling.

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I feel a great disturbance in the internet... by rune2 · 2004-11-04 08:50 · Score: 1

As if many webservers suddenly cried out due to Slashdotting

Re:I feel a great disturbance in the internet... by splint3r · 2004-11-04 16:42 · Score: 1

I laughed out loud, so humour is subjective, so ... erm, shut up :P

download it here now, for free by Khyron · 2004-11-04 08:59 · Score: 2, Informative

Just in case the Empire diabled your Hyperspace account... http://notendur.centrum.is/~arnari/epi3.mov Enjoy!

don't bother, 404 by bani · 2004-11-04 09:08 · Score: 2, Funny

didnt take long...

BitTorrent == Suprnova to them by tepples · 2004-11-04 09:10 · Score: 1

You *have* heard of bittorrent, right?

Remember we're talking about Lucasfilm and Lucasfilm's publisher, Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation, which is a member of MPAA. They probably associate "BitTorrent" with Suprnova.org, a web site containing primarily pirate torrents.

Real Mirror by theanonymousbrit · 2004-11-04 09:11 · Score: 1

Here

Both the small and medium sizes, as seen on AOL, are available for as long as my bandwidth holds.

Re:Real Mirror by theanonymousbrit · 2004-11-04 14:08 · Score: 1

My provider is soon to disable my site until 12:01 AM tomorrow (Friday) morning due to my exceeding bandwidth restrictions. I've torrented the files, but if my site is suspended, there goes my tracker. I've mirrored the files themselves here. This is where I'll post updates.

don't bother, 404 by bani · 2004-11-04 09:12 · Score: 1

it's dead.

Real Torrent by lexbaby · 2004-11-04 09:16 · Score: 2, Informative

http://www.filerush.com/torrents/swep3-480.mov.tor rent

Just under 9MB, but it's the real thing.

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Re:Real Torrent by lexbaby · 2004-11-04 09:19 · Score: 4, Informative

You'll proabably get a webpage. Click the "torrent" "button" on the bottom left. link again

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Re:Lucas' real motivation behind SW by Gil-galad55 · 2004-11-04 09:21 · Score: 1

If I only wanted special effects, I would stick to 64K demos, okay?

While the plot in all of the Star Wars has never been, say, Citizen Kane material, the first three were certainly not all about special effects. Okay, Carrie and Mark are not the greatest actors in the world; but the cast at least had some dynamics. Nothing like that in these new ones.

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Cartoons by sbowles · 2004-11-04 09:23 · Score: 1

The site is French but the cartoons are the english versions ... Enjoy ;^)

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So if you have AOL by Cro+Magnon · 2004-11-04 09:25 · Score: 2, Funny

does it say "Yousa gotten mail"?

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No, as in by geekoid · 2004-11-04 09:42 · Score: 1

petrified.

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Re: !(Star Wars Fans = masochist) by Trogre · 2004-11-04 09:44 · Score: 1

Perhaps because they're not the same fans.

Not all star wars fans hate the prequels or the altered original trilogy, and not all star wars fans are in a hurry to see ROTS.

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No... by geekoid · 2004-11-04 09:50 · Score: 1

you got all the stuff you bought in return.
Unless you manageed to purchase a garuntee that all future films won't suck. If that was the case, you got screwed.

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Re:here it is by geekoid · 2004-11-04 09:56 · Score: 1

Even on slashdot you have to tell n AOL user how to do something....truly a sad commentary.

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Re:See lucas ruin your childhood yet again by Attaturk · 2004-11-04 10:01 · Score: 1

Second, if George Lucas fucking about with his own ideas and creations affects your childhood in some way then you are a truly sad individual.

There's a lot of us out there you insensitive clod!

a question for folk with cable by mrmez · 2004-11-04 10:06 · Score: 1

Cable isn't available in my neighborhood, and so I've avoided seeing the Clone Wars cartoons until I seek them out shortly before seeing Star Wars 6 (aka Episode 3). Am I correct in assuming that what looks like shots from a cartoon in the trailer are actually animated (I mean, special effects) scenes from the next movie?

teaser trailer via real player here by ceasol · 2004-11-04 10:47 · Score: 1

http://click.real.com/?clipid=99730&pageid=summary -results-in-boxster-wrapper

I Disagree by Greyfox · 2004-11-04 11:07 · Score: 2, Interesting

I used to work in phone support and it's inevitable that the squeeky wheel will get the grease, no matter how much of a dick that wheel is. The first person you talk to is a phone monkey with no real power and a limited amount of time to talk to you. The attitude you should take with them is that you're looking for the slightest provocation to go ballistic and demand to talk to their supervisor. This includes even the slightest hint that they can't help you.

I don't care what company you're dealing with, they'll walk all over you if you show the slightest sign of weakness. To get results you're going to have to be mean to the poor unfortunate bastard who answered your call. If you can't do this, don't bother talking to phone support.

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Re:I Disagree by Twanfox · 2004-11-04 13:31 · Score: 1

Generalities don't gusually hold up, though. Dell, I tried to get to a manager when it was obvious the tech was incompetant. However, the Tech, being a complete and utter retard, continued to argue with me and refused to help as well as refused to get the manager. I had to hang up in order to get anything done.
Re:I Disagree by Vinnie_333 · 2004-11-04 14:53 · Score: 1

I hear you. The squeezed dick gets oiled. Got it. I'll keep that in mind.

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Re:I Disagree by ZB+Mowrey · 2004-11-05 01:02 · Score: 1

I used to be an example of this: I was practically armed and dangerous every time I'd call tech support, or even pick up a call from a telemarketer. Some of those calls ended on some very ugly notes.
Lately, I've been experimenting with niceness and vocal warmth - trying to establish rapport, etc... and *gasp* it works. I seem to be getting what I want, and quickly. YMMV.

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I'll tell you why. by Headius · 2004-11-04 11:13 · Score: 5, Insightful

Ewen McGreggor is an actor.

Re:I'll tell you why. by MajorCatastrophe · 2004-11-05 01:24 · Score: 1

Ahem, I think you mean:

Ewan McGreggor is an actor?
Re:I'll tell you why. by grouse · 2004-11-05 05:57 · Score: 1

Ahem, I think you mean:

Ewan McGregor is an actor?

Legolas is Young and Impressionable by irhtfp · 2004-11-04 11:14 · Score: 2, Funny

You have to forgive Legolas. He's young (for an elf) and trying to find himself by emulating popular middle-aged X Game Hall of Famers.

We've all had a "Tony Hawk Moment" from time to time. Cut the guy a break.

And while I truly enjoyed the LOTR movies, that part had me yelling at the screen in the theater. I yelled again when Legolas had his "Luke Skywalker" moment in RotK. Damn Middle Earth Imperial Walkers!!!

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you should... by interactive_civilian · 2004-11-04 11:15 · Score: 1

Actually, you should watch Episode II one more time. The second time is not nearly as traumatic as the first time because now you expect the terrible acting, the shallow characters, and the weak story and can tune them out a bit and watch the eye candy.

The first time I saw Episode II (in the theatres), I wanted a lobotomy. But the second time, since I knew to expect and therefore ignore Hayden Christianson(sp?)'s terrible acting, I was actually able to somewhat enjoy the movie (much in the same way I occasionally enjoy mindless action flicks...)

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Re:you should... by Maserati · 2004-11-04 12:03 · Score: 1

Agreed. And, when watching Ep. II at home, just fast forward through the "frolicking" sequence and you end up with a markedly better movie. Eliminating that one scene greatly improves the pacing of the film and it removes the worst of the directing.

Yes, it's the directing. Natalie Portman is a better actress than that. Hell, Hayden Christenson is a better actor than that.

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Pretty good... I love the wookies! by hools1234 · 2004-11-04 11:29 · Score: 1

Looks like there's going to be lots of wookies in number III. Nice! http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2791 Mirror 4 was nice and fast! Make sure you check out http://hoboe.net/in.php?in=hools

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Correct, Star Wars jumped the shark when... by jayveekay · 2004-11-04 11:32 · Score: 1

...Luke used his Jedi powers to levitate 3PO over the Ewoks in order to convince them not to cook and eat him and Leia.

Re:Correct, Star Wars jumped the shark when... by AGMW · 2004-11-04 23:31 · Score: 1

... to convince them not to cook and eat him and Leia
Now, tell me more about this eating Leia to which you allude ...

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Didn't we hear about this yesterday morning? by ILL+Robinson · 2004-11-04 11:43 · Score: 1

Um, I think they have the dates wrong.

News was that "Revenge of the Sith" actually premieres January 20th, 2005 in Washington DC.

Bad Lucas Marketing, BAD! by Lord_Dweomer · 2004-11-04 13:00 · Score: 3, Insightful

Ok, I understand the purpose of sending the takedown notices. They have special deals with those affiliates whereby they pay for exclusive distribution of the trailer.

But Lucas, don't be dicks about sending takedown notices. Your trailer WILL get distributed via other methods, and you should be FUCKING GRATEFUL FOR IT. We're using our own bandwidth (or our schools hehehehe ssshhh) and saving you precious PR dollars with a word of mouth campaign you could never match in a million years with all your greedily earned millions.

I say its about time Lucas shows some fucking appreciation for their fans.

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Traffic by NoMoreFood · 2004-11-04 13:07 · Score: 1

I guess it makes sense this came before the BitTorrent article.

General public clearly wants fancy effects by Namarrgon · 2004-11-04 13:07 · Score: 1

I think the more they rely on 'green screens' and CGI, the poorer the quality of the movie, specifically the story.

I was about to take exception to this (being in the visual FX industry), but then I realised I'd read it as the more they use , rather than rely. But I agree with what you really said, mostly.

VFX are a tool to convey the story like any other, they just happen to be a popular and easy-to-overuse tool. Like building a house using only a hammer, just because it's such a cool thing to hammer with, & because everyone likes watching you use it. You might be able to charge admission while you're building, but nobody's going to want to live in the result.

Hollywood simply realised that people apparently were prepared to pay good money for a couple of hours of eye candy, without being necessarily burdened by a story, and that this was easy to provide on a regular basis. This is fine, the problem is only that you just need to know in advance whether to expect a story or not.

In the absence of more helpful movie labelling laws, read the reviews first so that you know which movie is which. For those that want story and flash, they do come by occasionally, just don't set your expectations too high for everything you see or you'll just be disappointed...

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removed at request of LucasFilm by coaxial00 · 2004-11-04 13:21 · Score: 1

removed at request of LucasFilm

Trailer will be shown with The Incredibles by rubberbando · 2004-11-04 14:02 · Score: 1

A local news station giving away tickets to an early showing of The Incredibles tonight (12:01am) mentioned that the trailer for Episode III will be shown with the movie.

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argggghhh by torrents · 2004-11-04 14:21 · Score: 1

must... refrain... from... dissing... star wars... fans...

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No, I think I'll see it right away. by Glytch · 2004-11-04 14:42 · Score: 1

Just to piss off people who want to be oh-so-edgy and omg-starwars-sucks-lol!

Hear that, you whiny little oh-my-god-my-childhood-is-ruined freaks? I'm going to watch it! And probably a few times! And I'll buy overpriced popcorn, too, and I'll bring friends to drive up ticket sales!

Why?

Because it's just fucking entertainment. It's not the bible. Lighten up.

I am going in, fully expecting an epic battle of good versus evil with lots of special effects and lots of bad acting. I know what's coming, so I'm going to enjoy it for what it is.

Re:No, I think I'll see it right away. by Glytch · 2004-11-06 15:32 · Score: 1

No, but I just stole it form some other slashdotter's sig. They had both the latin and english.

Re: Vader's voice by Starsmore · 2004-11-04 15:05 · Score: 1

Heh.

Imagine if they had kept David Prowse's original dialogue in.

He was scottish!

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Yeah, amazingly by bill_mcgonigle · 2004-11-04 15:56 · Score: 1

I was surprised to have a similar reaction myself. I loved IV, V, 2/3 of VI, 1/8th of I, 1/6th of II, and this looks like it might get over 50%.

Starting the trailer with Alec Guinness is very interesting. On one hand we're reminded how a guy sitting on a bench can be a hundred times better than the multi-million dollar CGI characters that followed (and just how atrocious they were). On the other hand, maybe, just maybe (eternal optimist) it's Lucas code for "I'm sorry, I realize what I did wrong. I'm going back to basics".

If Lucas has a good plot, we're going to get a good movie.

Aye, there's the rub.

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Here is a torrent that will not go down! by mowler2 · 2004-11-04 16:21 · Score: 1

The Piratebay has one, and this will defenitly not go down, like the other torrents.

(not direct link, press the link, and then download the .torrent file)

This torrent is closed down! Use this instead. by mowler2 · 2004-11-04 16:24 · Score: 1

The Piratebay has a torrent that works.

All torrents by AmVidia+HQ · 2004-11-04 16:49 · Score: 1

Searches all main torrent sites:
http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=star+wars+trai ler&ihs1=8&iho1=a

It doesn't look bad. Here's hoping it will suck less than ep 1 and 2 (grin)

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Episode III? by UglyTool · 2004-11-04 17:37 · Score: 1

After I spent good money on Episode I, I have still yet to see Eposide II. Why should I be excited about Episode III?

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Re:Episode III? by inkswamp · 2004-11-05 20:52 · Score: 1

If you didn't like the prequels so far, I guess you shouldn't be excited about it. So why post about it?
Not trying to be confrontational. I just don't get what compels you (and others for that matter) to waste your time on something that doesn't interest you.

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Shattered Glass by Sorcerer13 · 2004-11-04 18:07 · Score: 1

I think it might be the director. I saw Shattered Glass, in which Hayden Christensen was actually really good.

my youth pastor... by absolutes · 2004-11-04 20:28 · Score: 1

my youth pastor runs theforce.net...well he was my youth pastor. way to go pastor josh! haha.

I like all the movies and #2 is my favorite by sundling · 2004-11-04 20:38 · Score: 1

Out of all the movies, episode 2 is actually my favorite. If you watch episode 1, Jar Jar isn't as annoying. If you watch episode 2, the romance isn't as bad. Episode 2 really sets up the next movie well and the entire last half was bad assed.

Personally, the dialogue from their romance actually sounds like something that might have come out of my mouth. Yes I'm a romantic who can sometimes talk in meladramatic hyperbole. :)

Take a movie like terminator 3, I enjoyed that too, but the only thing that movie did well was set up the 4th movie. I wonder if Arnold will have trouble getting around to the 4th movie being governer and all.

Re: Vader's voice by ralphclark · 2004-11-05 00:50 · Score: 1

Dunno where Prowse originally came from, but his accent is definitely West Country (think: corny pirate accent - ooh arr jim lad!). About as far away from Scots as you can get.

Damn those greedy bastards are quick! by Snaller · 2004-11-05 01:36 · Score: 1

You were just stormtrooped ;)

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Not a jock. by Col.+Bloodnok · 2004-11-05 03:20 · Score: 1

He's from Bistol, I believe.

Oo-aaah, my lovely.

German TV by Amorpheus_MMS · 2004-11-05 04:26 · Score: 1

It'll be on Pro7 just before the 20:15 movie.

Mirror List by Embedded+Geek · 2004-11-05 12:31 · Score: 1

From http://www.foxforums.com/index.php?showtopic=543.. .

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2953....com% 5D.torrent (BitTorrent)
http://www.worldofepic.net/ep3.mov (Mirror #1)
http://members.cox.net/chambers30/teaser.mov (Mirror #2)
http://www.larney.co.uk/ep3.mov (Mirror #3)
http://www.jackpearce.info/full.mov (Mirror #4)
http://www.astercity.net/~jerry/full.mov (Mirror #5)
http://ufies.org/txt/switzler084hs_dl.mov (Mirror #6)
http://www.mindspring.com/~bodyslide/Video...er084 aol_dl.mov (Mirror #7)

IMDb:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/

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Millenium Falcon? by Embedded+Geek · 2004-11-05 12:36 · Score: 1

OK, I feel unclean for admitting this, but I saw something in the trailer and I was wondering if anyone else saw it. Specifically, there's a quick cut just before we get to see the Emperor's delightful dental work of a hangar door slamming shut (right after the last shot of Anakin and Kenobi slugging it out). If you freeze it just before it starts closing, you see a ship in space just outside the hangar. It might be one of the big ones you see fighting broadside earlier in the trailer, but it actually looks like the Millenium Falcon to me. The more I look at it, the more I think it is.

Tough to tell, with only a partial portion of a songle frame, but I have to wonder. Has anyone else seen this?

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