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New .XXX Top Level Domain
Jigabug writes "There's a story over at Yahoo! News mentioning yesterday's approval by ICANN on a new .xxx TLD. Domains are currently planned to be offered at 60.00 each for registration. The .xxx joins the recently approved .jobs and .travel." From the article: "Adult-oriented sites, a $12 billion industry, probably could begin buying xxx addresses as early as fall or winter depending on ICM's plans,
ICANN spokesman Kieran Baker said. The new pornography suffix was among 10 under consideration by the regulatory group..." CNN and the BBC have commentary as well.
Why not .orgy ?
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More TLDs noone is going to use because ".com" just sounds cooler.
Now how are we supposed to talk about all our registered .com, .org, .(etc) domains all at once?
.sex?
"yeah, just update the MX records for www.google.xxx will you?"
"So that's just one domain, right?"
What's wrong with
Everything in moderation, including moderation itself
Goatse.XXX
It's going to be about a year before Congress tries to find someway to outlaw all porn that isn't on a .xxx domain.
Of course, they'll cite the ease with which children could be shielded from the obscenities of the internet...Still, I've heard worse ideas.
eg. "your mummas house has a .xxx address!"
Maybe if they're legislated. But they sure aren't lining up to get .xxx domains voluntarily.
-Eric
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Porn for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
is it going to take for http://goatse.xxx?
So clearly this isn't for the cost-conscious smut peddler.
If they switch all the porn sites over to this .xxx, I can finally go to sites like www.barelylegal.com without finding such gratuitous porn related material. God dammit, I'm just looking for marijuana legalization information!
Peace out, homies.
.jiz ?
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Well then it will be more easy to ban I suppose !
Chris ,
Php Programmers.
I'm pretty sure there's a blow.jobs-joke somewhere in there.
The owls are not what they seem
I look forward to the 20-year running gag that will be the legal battle over "sex.xxx".
Lastly, not all erotica is XXX .. Anyway, whatever makes it easier to filter/detect people browsing porn (for the children). But beware ISP's cracking down on porn browsers in countries where porn is illegal (think middle east).
Btw, look at what prohibition did to drinking in US. I just hope some kid in some corner of the world learns C and assembly just to hack through the school proxy to browse pr0n. Talk about incentive !!.Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
I would have suggested .sex but nevermind . .xxx sites then we could make it far easier for people who dislike pornography to block it out . .xxx domain , like the site for awfull movie xXx.
If we can start moving all the pornography on to
I don't imagine everyone would comply , but the more ethical porn sites would and its atleast a start.
ofcourse you could some realy odd stuff on a
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Of course, the industry needs to support this move as well, and I'm not certain everyone will be willing to switch TLDs.
Well then it will be more easier to ban I suppose
Chris ,
Php Programmers.
Yeah, right. Who enforces that an 'adult site' goes into this TLD? Does vacation pics taken at a nude beach count?
that this will make filtering porn easier. Only the websites that arn't too bad will use .xxx addresses. The really bad stuff that you want to shield kids from (i.e. beastiality) will continue to use .com addresses. So you will restrict the viewable porn to only the bad stuff.
... slashdot.xxx
So, which ICANN member will be first out of the gate as the owner of the celebrity.xxx, sex.xxx, etc. domains?
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I think this is the first actually useful TLD to be introduced in years. Congrats ICANN, you actually did something worthwhile and managed to justify about two weeks of this year's operating budget.
Now of course, we'll see who actually moves from COM to XXX voluntarily.
*sound of crickets chirping*
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
Like .adu instead of .edu, although I'm sure several .adu's would be rather educational.
.XXX is a dumb TLD.
I agree that
http://www.google.xxx?
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we could make it far easier for people who dislike pornography to block it out .
And easier for those that do to find it
One one hand, it will now make censoring a certain amount of porn sites easier.
.xxx sites would be the ones who are less shady about their dealings and willing to comply with blocking.
.xxx TDL.
On the other, this could be a good thing because most
But it'll only work if porn sites wern't FORCED to being on the
Sometimes I wish I was a plumber, then I'd know how to deal with other people's shit.
The concept of a TLD intended strictly for adults is a good one. Giving it a cheesy .XXX extention is stupid. It immediatly paints the whole domain as the lair of animal loving farmgirls and hot transsexuals.
There are plenty of "legitmate" adult businesses who would be interested in a TLD intended for people 18 and older. Alcohol, tobacco, R-rated movies... all of these could have been pitched the idea of putting their stuff on a TLD that parents could restrict access to. But there's no way Budweiser is going to move or redirect their web traffic to budweiser.xxx
Prediction: This will fail miserably.
It's the land of the brave, and the home of the free
Where the less you know, the better off you'll be.
Seems odd to see 'XXX' hanging from a town hall, probably more than a few tourists thought it was a brothel.
Yeah, right. Who enforces that an 'adult site' goes into this TLD? Does vacation pics taken at a nude beach count?
.coms arent nessecarily restricted to commercial organizations and .org isn't restricted to non-profits.
.gov or .edu
I'd wager no one, juts as
this isn't another
...and that's all there is to it.
Why an entirely separate TLD for big, brown jugs of whisky?
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
There's got to be a good joke concerning "mangina" in here somewhere...
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but why can't there be legislation that FORCES pornographic websites to use such a suffix from now on?
.xxx compulsory domain naming apply
of course, there will be sites that sit on the edge according to more social conservative people: sex education websites, contraceptive resources, sex toy sellers, homosexual resources, etc.
but such sites are perhaps 0.001% of what i am talking about. a simple litmus test could be that the obscenity rules that apply to broadcasters being the yardstick against which
it seems to solve all of the problems: freedom of speech is not violated, but it makes management of access to such sites by parents, who are often less computer savvy then their children, easier
it's a win-win situation according to me... what am i not getting?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
When did you ever see a real (not seo spam, ordinary spam, herbal medicine etc) site using any of the new TLDs? This is just ICANN trying to make more money by getting sites to register more domains.
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Next time I need some sporting equipment and go to Dicks.com I won't be unpleasantly surprised.
.xxx might help normal domains register what they want. There are so many porn sites, there is a chance that your domain might be taken and filled with horse on midget porn. It might be a bad decision to use BiteMyNipples.com for a business anyway, but as long as you stay away from the .xxx your customers might not get tricked.
.xxx anyway though, and there really isn't any reason for them to start. Old sites probably won't convert. New sites might choose either or both. I guess it is just one more chance for a site to get the URL they want.
Adding the
This only matters if porn decides to use the
/. ++
The new .xxx domain will make it easier to filter out the porn sites. Too bad ICANN can't force the .com porn sites to move to the new domain. It would make it easier for parents (who want to) to block the graphic stuff.
Of course, it would also make it easier for the adults who want to find porn.
If "disco" means "I learn" in Latin, does "discothèque" mean "I learn technology"?
If anything, I think the internet would benefit greatly (not that this is a reasonable goal) if sites were all on appropriate domains.
.org. A site about goats in the christmas islands? Well.. You know.
Looking for a site in Canada? You know it will be whatever.ca. An american non-profit? It'll be
I guess your beef is more with them actually legislating it, but that doesn't seem like such a big deal to me either. It's not like they would be outlawing it, just trying to keep it in it's proper place.
Ok, so I didn't RTFA, but exactly who's standards are going to be used to judge sites that need a .xxx domain anyway? Is it the US? UK? Holland? Iran? Who? This is just stupid. .org, .com and .logicalsitetype are all fine since they represent an agreed organisational type, but .xxx? Please.
I had a dream, bright and carefree, but now there's doubt and gravity
Now all they have to do is ban this TLD, and the pr0n industry should finally be in check, and the conservatives can all retire as their work will be done.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
could begin buying xxx addresses as early as fall or winter
Not if I beat them to it. Finally, a chance to sit on some domain names like the moron who wants me to pay him to release my defunct url that he snatched up.
If we can start moving all the pornography on to .xxx sites then we could make it far easier for people who dislike pornography to block it out .
.com, and get all the people that have blocked .xxx but will, if you just tempt them properly, subscribe to your site. Result: Profit!
Which is the top reason they *won't* move. Porn sites are fully aware that many people are infact paying for porn while pretending not to like it. People have subpoenaed adult channel subscription to disprove "community standards" and found that lots of people that supposedly don't like porn are subscribing to porn.
It is the same reason telemarketers would love to call people that have reserved themselves against telemarketing, and the reason the show pop-ups to people with pop-up blockers. Many people are weak and have installed those in "self-defense". So you stay on
Kjella
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
I'm very afraid about what some sites that pop up will be like. www.Slashdot.xxx, anyone?
This would make parental controls on web browsers easier if adult content could only be on .xxx domains. What are the chances of voluntary compliance by the industry though?
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
Anyone think the playboy geeks are going to be the registry for this new TLD?
*ducks*
The proverbial "someone" who does this type of thing needs to get net.xxx, com.xxx, org.xxx and all the other tlds as domain entries, and allow anyoen who currently runs a sex site off foo.[org|com|net|whatever] to have the foo.[net|com|whatever].xxx domain name.
.xxx domain would allow parents to block it all completely.
While there are plenty of sleazy porn folks out there, many are responsible, and having pointers to their content on the
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
Do they have to register? Because in terms of good media/news coverage.... they are filth.
This might be a good squatter property. Of course, this will just inflate old Steve's ego even more.
I see a lot of disputes arising out of this. Current XXX site owners on .com or .org etc. should get a free transfer to .xxx. Otherwise I see the competition registering the same site with .xxx on the end to draw away the competition. I hope ICANN is willing to deal with these problems.
So Apple has its own TLD? Where was /. on that one?
The only thing I see happening is that now there will be twice as many porn sites.
Meh.
I'm so registering http://hand.jobs../
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I always figured .cum would be the ultimate pr0n top-domain :-)
Now at xxx.arXiv.xxx.
but why can't there be legislation that FORCES pornographic websites to use such a suffix from now on?
.xxx.us domain, we can make it, but there is zero reason aside from registrars pushing for more short-term money and a few short-sighted people pushing to "solve" the "Internet porn problem".
/rating.txt file that works like the robots.txt that indicates level of content, and have web browsers and proxies respect it. For Christ's sake. But don't do something goddamn stupid like add a .xxx TLD.
Because the entire world uses DNS, and the entire world doesn't have a consistent standard for what is socially acceptable when it comes to sexuality.
Some Islamic countries consider it socially unacceptable to show anything other than the eyes and hands of a woman.
In the US, we'd consider the French and British tendancies to stick topless women on TV unacceptable.
Japan has a real problem with showing genital hair, but no problem at all with representing underage characters.
The problem is that it suddenly tries to stick a single moral standard on the entire world to make a few short-sighted people who are agitating for an "xxx" domain (because they're scared Junior *might* discover what a woman looks like before getting married, God forbid!)
This promises to create an almost unlimited number of social problems. Why, why, *why* is ICANN letting this through? Okay, if we want to have a
It's possible to build a worldwide content-rating system, but tying it into DNS (at least using the current approach) is just plain stupid. You want websites to be rated, add a
Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
Will there be a goatse.xxx? [ducks]
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
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For putting a page with 'XXX' in the title into my browsing history!
... will surely sell these for less than $60.00
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What they should do is allow any site who's had a .com (or whatever, really) site up since before .xxx is available to migrate over for free. You don't have to abandon hotsluts.com and shell out $60 for hotsluts.xxx, you just suddenly become hotsluts.xxx and it's "free" until your lease on hotsluts.com (now transferred) runs out.
If people think they're gettting something fro nothing, they're more likely to do what you want.
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not all sex is related to orgies! Some people just like to watch.
...And now we're waiting for www.ddd.xxx...
Yeah, like it's hard to find porn on the Internet!
Meh.
I want georgebush.xxx.
I do not understand why the comments I've been reading suggest that this will be another avenue to censorship on the web. In reality, it is an opporunity to avoid censorship. I suppose it does provide an easy path for governments to ban access to the .xxx domains, however the purveyors of adult material would just continue to use the rest of the top-level domains to reach consumers. Instead this could be a great benefit to both the seller and consumer by providing a non-intrusive channel to such material. It would provide parents with a tool to prevent inappropriate material from reaching their children. And while most everyone has a general curiosity and interest, they don't especially welcome explicit images flashing across their computer screen simply because they mistyped a URL address. It is the extreme positions that state we either elimante or distribute to all that are madness. There is nothing bad about using a little common sense and responsability. (Unless, of course, you are a typical teenager with raging hormones. Then you can politely ignore this comment and continue your search for 'boobies')
How long till the US government requires porn sites to use .XXX as their domain suffix. How long at least until it's introduced then shot down anyway? :)
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Look at the new thing I am going to do. It is already happening. Don't you see it?
I heard the MPAA will be suing all .XXX domain owners for trademark violation with respect to the Triple X (xXx) movie franchise. BTW - Vin Diesel was much better.
Isaiah 43:19 (NCV)
Look at the new thing I am going to do. It is already happening. Don't you see it?
Porn is one of the most profiting busineses on the internet. What if you just could bunch those profitable business together and force them to pay more? In TFA it suggest a price of 60$ which is about 10 times more then a normal domain. Why should it be this expensive? Are domains with the letter X that much harder to register than domains with the letter c? .xxx. The registar hopes to cash in on that move. Since the expense of 60$ is just small change with profitable porn, they may just get away with it too. Maybe /. should ask a licence to print money from congress too?
This is nothing more than a gamble that legisation will force adult content to
This space is intentionally staring blankly at you
...and buy up all the .xxx domains before they have a chance to. Someone types in analfisting.xxx, and they'll get the Salvation Army's website. Mwuahahahaha!
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P.S. - WARNING - No association between anal fisting and the Salvation Army was intentional.
Who the fuck wants dupe porn?
I always thought it should have been .cum.
I hope the filterers use the fact that the .xxx is a TLD to filter, and don't just filter everything with an xxx in it. At work, our company uses one of those stupid filters which just matches keywords with any part of the url, and it drives me crazy when I want to look up stuff in the lanl arXiv. Yes, I realize that you can look it up through the arxiv.org url, but if the link is an xxx.lanl.gov one, I have to take the time to work around the stupid filter to get my work done.
Not mention how agravating it was when I found my google search for "quantum computation" was blocked. It turned out that "puta" (I believe that's Spanish for whore) was blocked. Great! I can't look up a search for "computation" on the friggin' Internet!
Yes, I have complained to the sysadmin. It gets changed, but always changes back after a while. I've gotten tired of dealing with it.
Remember, kids--sex is perfectly normal and natural.
Except on the Internet. You need protecting from that.
Don't you think the .xxx will carry a stigma? Much like the dreaded X rating for movies most mainstream adult websites (i.e. Playboy.com) would want to stay away from such ratings. Then again, plenty of sites would wear a .xxx like a badge of honor. Guess it depends on the market you are trying to attract.
they should be looking at the needs of other net users. .blog would be a good start.
It would make it so much easier to filter. Google: "usefulstuff -site:.blog". I like it allready.
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No slashdot.xxx!
The thought is just unbearable.
should read: "It will further help reduce the amount of time kids need to search for porn so that they have more time to eat fast food, watch tv, IM each other, and play video games"
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And to those of you that say to legislate or have some kind of ICANN check to see if your site is allowed to be a .com or not, I say it can't be enforced. What's to stop a porn site from setting up an innocent .com non-porn site, then after getting approved, switching content to porn. Who's going to police this?
Meh.
Unless they start making existing porn sites convert to this new .xxx then I really don't see a point. This way, we can atleast just block all .xxx top level domains and our kids (or co-workers if you're a net admin) won't "accidentally" navigate to these websites.
It's going to be about a year before Congress tries to find someway to outlaw all porn that isn't on a .xxx domain.
Because the entire internet is in the US. (Not saying the morons won't try it)
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Besides, I'm guessing most of us figured out what was on 'xxx' before we read the article. At least in the US, this is a rather intuitive high level domain. If you see show.me.xxx, you will have a pretty easy time guessing what you are about to see and remembering the URL as well.
I'm guessing that this could end up with lots of 'teaser sites' with a .com address that will direct users to the .xxx. site. This way, the porm sites can suck you in with all of their current tricks and then offer the goods from the xxx sites. This would give them much greater legal protection and it would still allow them to use their bag of tricks to draw in new subscribers.
Think global, act loco
Sounds like ICANN just wants more money. As soon as they open up this new domain, any non-porn company with a .com domain will instantly register .xxx as well, just to keep someone else from using it "inappropriately." Can you imagine goatse on microsoft.xxx?
Not a single comment out of 125 actually shows in full!!
I guess I'll go read Kuro5hin.org and Technocrat instead.
But wow! The captchas are gone. I guess no captchas no comments... well, as I said: C'est la vie.
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whitehouse.xxx
Nasa.xxx
slashdot.xxx
etc...
The by now obligatory South Park reference:
.xxx top-level domain ...
1. Open new
2.
3. Money!
Yeah, yeah... totally offtopic. Sorry.
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why would Budweiser redirect to an 18+ TLD anyway, even if it was, say, .adult? I'm sure not everything on the Budweiser.com website is only meant for people over 18. If they did that, and new anti-porn filters worked correctly, the audience for their website would be greatly lowered (even legitimate adults who happen to be checking out Budweiser's latest beer from work.)
Besides, the "over 18" rule doesn't apply all across the world. I don't care how much legislation they come up with, webmasters in other parts of the world will still host their material on other TLDs anyway. Additionally, people will still find a way to get to these sites, bypassing filters with maybe the HOSTS file.
Having a smoking section in a public restaurant is like having a peeing section in a public swimming pool.
I still think they should have used .cum
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
I've not been all that keen on this idea from the start. I mean, I can understand the original TLD ideas (.com, .org, .gov, .edu, etc.), but are they planning on semi-forcibly splitting out the adult sites?
.XXX sites are more expensive, they won't have the same recognition for a while so nobody's going to want to change.
.COM domain name and pay more for a .XXX name"? And can they make that stick?
Consider - the new
So my question is - are they planning on saying, "You're an adult site, so now you have to give up your
And if they are and they can, would that really be a Good Thing?
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It may not be extremely insightful, but due to the relativness of things I think it deserves it.
Why? As it seems to be the only post so far that acknowledges the fact that US Congress doesn't rule the world or the internet.
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The porn industry won't be in any hurry to switch because:
.xxx, have the same marketing appeal that a .com does. Even though the .com era/fad is a bit dated, yoursite.com still sounds better than yoursite.xxx.
.xxx domains, as if that's so hard to do that it's deserving of a monthly service charge.
1. Sorry, but none of these new TLDs, including
2. I imagine the porn industry sees some benefit to getting through to the underage demographic. Don't forget, that 13-year old kid, in 5 years, will be 18, old enough to be a paying member! This goal would be undermined by helping parents weed underagers out of the market.
3. $60!? That's sure gonna slow down adoption.
By the way, I'm sure ISPs will try to cash in on this, charging some pricey monthly "porn-blocking fee" for simply blocking
I think the open-source community should put together and maintain a list of .com URLs that are not switching over to .xxx and provide that list to the public. ISP's and people who control the routers can implement the list so that all .com porn sites will automatically route to a page explaining that the website in question is not conforming to .xxx standards or whatever. If this would catch on, porn sites would be forced to switch. Any thoughts on this?
Meh.
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.xxx domains and you'll need to phone their tech support to gain access.
http://networks.silicon.com/webwatch/0,39024667,3
Next thing ISPs will block all
I think I can have .blow.jobs for less than $60
I mean... er... nevermind.
My other post is a First.
or at least it should be. I know the web is supposed to be the land of the free but meta data like this helps everyone.
.com porn to move to .xxx. I'd suggest an amnistace and allow all exisitng .com who want to move, to move there for free not $60 for the next year or so.
.kids, which is heavily policed. We'ed still have the whole of the web to exercise as much free speech as we liked, but in this one little island there would be rules regarding the type of content that can be displayed, enforcable with high fines and domain name loss. You could then configure your firewall to only allow web content from those sites. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would be better than these parental control programs.
Porn is tricky. Whatever your views on it are, the fact is there is a large body of people who are offended by it. Making it easier for those people to avoid it must be good for everyone. The difficult bit is encouraging
I've always thought that a better alternative to help kids would be to have a
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...an organization that has nude women providing high quality automotive finishes to members of an automotive club: www.aaa.xxx Wax...get it? It's funny... right?
How come all these pages offering programs with DeCSS are still online? I mean, pages like doom9.net seems to have no other purpose than showing how you can make high-quality DVD-rips.
Have been online for a long time, and still is. Are you sayingthat DeCSS doesn't violate US law?
You got theory and practice. In theory: yes. In practice: Any attempt to do this would be rendered useless by the sheer size of the internet.
I say my point still stands.
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As XPays mentioned on an adult webmaster business forum, he will use the trademark against this new TLD.
Catalog(ue)? - anyway, I'm going to try and grab top.cat
Before Congress pushes through a bill that says if you are a pr0n site you have to move to .XXX?
http://www.twg.org/video/
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Password: j40dh1
What about a vindiesel.xxx fan site?
Constitutionally Correct
.cum
You bet I'm posting anon
Or even better, use the PICS standard, which already exists and has for years.
Of course, the fact that not everyone supports PICS on their existing domains, even though it's free to do so, suggests how far .xxx domains are going to get.
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If rules were put into place that *all* porn sites used that TLD, it would be easy to filter out porn once and for all.
And yes, i realize that is just a pipe dream, but the idea is good.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
I thought porn sites were suppose to have a .ru extenstion?
Wow, I guess they're just giving out TLD's these days. The movie wasn't even very good.
Kind thoughts do not change the world
PrOn for Nerds. Size does matter.
May I recommend immediate psychiatric evaluation?
I mean, why not? If the pr0n sites want to identify themselves as porn, then surely thats good if you are trying to avoid that sort of thing.
.com domains and any other you care to mention.
Of course, there will always be porn
Maybe I just rubbished my own point!
but seriously,
http://www.twg.org/video/
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Password: j40dh1
Offer a FREE .xxx domain to .com pron sites. If you own crazymonkeysex.com you get crazymonkeysex.xxx free for 5 years. The owner immediately relinqueshes the .com address to ICANN, where ICANN sets up a redirect for 1 year to the new .xxx address. After the one year, the .com address is "retired", i.e. no one can register it, unless it might actually be used in the regular domain space, e.g. whitehouse.com could be used, blowjobs.com can't.
Thoughts, suggestions, criticisms?
RFC 3675, ".sex Considered Dangerous".
Abstract
Periodically there are proposals to mandate the use of a special top
level name or an IP address bit to flag "adult" or "unsafe" material
or the like. This document explains why this is an ill considered
idea from the legal, philosophical, and particularly, the technical
points of view.
Of course, RFCs have no force. But I think he argued the point well.
Oh well. The fact that something's stupid has never prevented people from doing it. Especially where sex is concerned.
Sigh.
Who said ICANN approved this so we can try to keep people away? Having a virtual red-light district will probably attract as much business as it keeps away. It makes porn easy to find, and who else would want the stigma of a .xxx domain (except maybe promoters of a Vin Diesel or Ice Cube movie)? Kjella is right - porn sites might buy a .xxx in addition, but they won't give up their current names. Porn is seductive and its purveyors like the business they get from people tripping into it.
Personally, I think eliminating "generic" TLDs and going to country-code TLDs only wouldn't be a bad idea. Let each individual nation decide, according to its own laws and "community standards", how trademarks in domain names as well as issues like these should be addressed.
Constitutionally Correct
My 11 year old, on a busride for a ski trip, can only see G rated movies on the bus because some parents won't deal with PG.
The problem with quotes on the internet, is that nobody bothers to check their veracity. -- Abraham Lincoln
My website is so amazingly hot, I think I'll hold out for the .XXXX TLD.
Why are they waiting to see who voluntarily moves to .xxx? Isn't there a rule against profitable organizations using a .org? Why not use the same principle for .xxx? Only porn, and no porn on any other suffix.
Here it comes. goatse.xxx coming to a /. post near you!
With .xxx work will be able to filter out adult sites or worse yet easier to spot in the logs.
When I surf to 'hairyass.com' it would raise not raise an alarm. But now I with hairyass.xxx I might feel bad about look at such site.
They first cut off the 1-900 phone access and now this. What is a government worker to do all day long?
Think of it as a fundraiser for domain registrars. Like a bake sale, only with porn.
WTF? Not everyone lives in fascist-USA where you can drink and smoke only with 18 years or more. (Land of the Free? ROTFL!)
Think about it, all the filtering software is going to block *.xxx the day the domains start selling (some have probably already been patched to block them). Why would the porn industry move over? They want the kids and they ESPECIALLY want the college kids.
.com, unless they target an older audience. It's like having a .games domain that is blocked by every school filter, no site would switch over.
.xxx, it is naive to the largest extent possible.
They are going to stick with
Though the concept is great behind
I really hope this doesn't lead to legislation (by any country) pushing all 'adult' content onto .xxx and putting 'decency' standards on content outside .xxx
.kids or .safe tld that has enforced standards - similar to the way .edu and .gov are restricted
There should be a
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I like your .movie idea. Especially if there's somebody taking at least a halfhearted attempt to restrict it to actual movies, the way the .edu domain is restricted.
Or at least vigorously favor people making actual movies; that is, when you discover that some jackass has registered davincicode.movie and wants to sell it to Columbia Pictures, they get to take the domain name and punch him in the nose.
There will still be plenty of infighting among the eight billion indie movie producers for the good names, and God only knows what the porn movie producers are going to try, but it's definitely an idea with promise. And since I bet you could charge even more than $250, the domain registrars could definitely get behind it.
Great, so an entire domain series that porn sites can expand to, and have entirely blocked by every public and private filter known to man. What advantage is there to serving porn on the .xxx domain name when it's common knowledge that many sites already spoof well-known domain look-alikes with porn redirects, since the exposure is much greater. The only possibility I can see is that the extension allows those who are looking for porn to find it with ease - but honestly, who will actually admit to anyone else that they are the ones looking for a good porn site? If nothing else, the .xxx domain will just be full of mirrors to the .com sites - reliance on the .xxx domains would just lead to fears of the site being blocked, and of easier investigation and control of said domain by higher authorities.
Good intentions or not, this is going to take the acceptance of some very paranoid people.5 449
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=47
Every porn site is going want these *way* more than they will want .xxx
I'm glad to see .xxx has finally been agreed, although it's real use: making filtering software really easy, won't come unless all porn can be shifted on to that TLD, and I can't see that happening very easily. Not only would you have to force a move (presumably giving the domain for free at first) but also you get problems with what's seen as porn in different places. OK, a lot of porn is obviously that, but the borders of what is porn and what's a slightly provocative picture would cause lots of arguments that someone is going to have to deal with.
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Blogs are cluttering up search engines faster than online poker spammers are. seriously. I would *love* to type in a search and eliminate all blogs from the results. Maybe if the blog wankers would come up with a tag that would allow us to skip blogs in Google searches this wouldn't be a problem, but no, that won't happen because bloggers love the page views.
After all these years, it will finally be possible to find adult content online. Hooray!
RP
I don't own a porn website, so a greater share of the expenses of running the internet being born by porn websites sounds like a great idea to me.
Besides, if porn websites tend to enjoy a greater commercial benefit from the internet, what's wrong with them paying a bigger price?
paintball
XXX also denotes strong liquor. .sex would probably have been a better choice. Oh well...
You're using her as bait, Master!
is a .MOV for movies so "SuperHeroTheMovie.com" isn't taken and my effort to type long URLs is lessened.
Point for lazyiness!
The price is always right if someone else is paying.
The Idea of .xxx as a new domain is a excellent idea, but I have a suggestion. As many of you know porn sometimes pops up my accident. For example I had a student stumble onto www.whitehouse.com (Porn Site) instead of going to www.whitehouse.gov. Hopefully in the future most if not all the porn industry will move into a domain name that suggests only being porn. Maybe they should also have .porn domain? I hope that ideas like this will save innocence until they are of age. You do not see 8-year-old going into porn stores in the middle of a business district in most places than why should the internet be any different.
Restricting porn to the XXX TLD would be no different then moving the porn magazines to the back room at your local newsstand. Wouldn't be any free-speech issues since its just labeling, not censorship.
I would prefer that route, instead of having to make sure things 'safe for kids'. Just move the blatent stuff into the back room instead... Adults know where to go..
But id accept a comprimise, and have both.. 'kid' and 'xxx'.. Then everything else is in the grey area.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Just put all in country codes. Move all the com, net org over to com.us, net.us and org.us. That way each country can do as they please.
Need to have representation in more then one country? Fork over the money. Do not want that? Well, look for a country that allows non-residents and/or private people to register. I am sure there are some out there.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Here we go again ... the first domain-name grab in quite awhile.
the benefit of that is what exactly?
.org site are you going to censor and fine me as well?
If I tell you to fuck off on this
I make bondage furniture. It's a nice side business, as I am a full-time web developer.
.XXX tld once Congress mandates it. This means I have to repurchase my SSL cert (I'm sure they'll charge more for those too), register a .XXX tld, rebuild my link campaign, etc.
Right now, I don't make that much from my site. I gross about $450/month, sometimes more, sometimes less. Off of the $400, I have $200 in materials for products. Another $75-$100 goes to merchant account and credit card processing fees. Another $20 goes to web hosting. Advertising costs ~$100/month.
So at the end of the month, I'm lucky to break even, much less make a profit. I'm not even including the tools that have to be purchased and maintained to make the furniture. Not that it really bothers me, as I started doing it more for love of woodworking (and kinky sex) than for the money.
Even though I have no nudity on my site, as the models are wearing bikinis, I'm primed to be forced to move to a
Well to hell with that. If Congress wants to protect the children, make their parents RAISE their children, and not just sit them in front of the various forms of electronic babysitter they've come to rely on. And before you say you're not home with your kids all of the time, learn about passwords (BIOS and OS) and don't tell your kids what they are. That way they'll have to go to you to get on the net.
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach him to fish and he'll wipe out the species.
The entrance page at Budweiser.com wants you to put in your date of birth before you continue, and states "You must be 21 years of age or older to enter this site". I guess they're a little sensitive about the whole "encouraging minors to drink" thing.
Granted, those precautions will stop absolutely nobody, but Bud can just shrug their shoulders and tell you it's the best that they can do. If there were a TLD that was intended for adults only, Bud could move their site there.
Would they want to? Probably not, but they might be exposing themselves to lawsuits otherwise. But nobody could reasonably expect them to move their website to a TLD that's intended for porn.
It's the land of the brave, and the home of the free
Where the less you know, the better off you'll be.
I hope that ideas like this will save innocence until they are of age.
And what age is that? 14? 16? 18? 21? The day after they're married? For that matter, what the hell is this innocence of which you speak?
Children should be taught about sex from the age of two onwards. It should be a continuous educational process, like talking, walking, reading and playing. Those who think that this is somehow "wrong", "dirty" or takes away "innocence" are poster children for this to be done for every single child.
The idea that children grow up not knowing what sex is, or worse learning all they know from smut jokes and pop up porn is absolutely ridiculous and if parents are too embarrassed about sex, for whatever reason, to teach them, then, ridiculous as it sounds, the state will have to provide, once again.
If my eight years old is subjected to a pop up porn ad, I'll expect them to know exactly whats going on, rather than sit there gawk eyed, blush and later pretend like it never happened.
May the Maths Be with you!
As a parent, I'm concerned that this might result in large numbers of pornographic websites being established on the internet.
Oh, wait...
I don't see the obvious funny with microsoft.xxx. Get it? Maybe you have to know the old 1980s Bill Gates and microsoft jokes.
While I disagree with that fee for the domains, I say it's a good idea.
.xxx domains from your internet explorer 7 will be WAY EASIER than having a list of 23,000 sites in an ever-expanding blacklist.
.xxx domains. After all they want to catch your attention, don't they? If they don't buy a .xxx domain, the competitors will.
Banning
Oh, and trust me, porn sites will COMPETE for having the
well I've never actually been to budweiser's website so I wasn't aware of the birthdate question. I agree though that the .xxx TLD would not be a good place for them.
Having a smoking section in a public restaurant is like having a peeing section in a public swimming pool.
now we have so many TLDs, yet I failed to see the a good seperate of contents according to the TLDs. Most sites still want .com .net or .org names, and only register .info .us .tv or .whateverelse when the names you want are taken.. maybe .xxx will change it, maybe not. but chances are people who register .xxx already owns the same name in .com and others.
Porn sites are ALL for-profit ventures.
Care to explain how, precisely, Livejournal is a for-profit venture? They take donations, but one can join plenty of porn communities for free.
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
I would have preferred .cum ....
I'M NOT ANGRY!
I've thought before, while adding sites and ranges of IPs to my organization's firewall rules, wouldn't it be great if all of the stuff was in a .xxx TLD so it would be trivial to block? It's not going to happen, though. The smut industry guarantees the success of its addictive product by saturation, so no one in his right mind would only do business through a .xxx domain, because then it would be too easy to shield the generation of smut consumers from that exposure.
Fred
"A fool and his freedom are soon parted"
-RMS
Why not simply require .xxx for adult websites? It would make life easy for people trying to keep that stuff of thier networks, prevent my asshole friends from sending me links i dont want, and prevent confusion over sites like www.whitehouse.com who loses?
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... I used to operate a few internet porn sites a while ago, made a good living off it until I tired of the industry and moved on to developing enterprise software. I tell you now, this move is only a good thing as far as we are concerned.
.com, start sending spam and then dump the domain the second people latch on, buying another but still making tidy change on the deal. This kind of shenanegan made it harder for me as a businessman to make sales, and also (As above) made it very unlikely credit card companies would side with me on issues.
Legitimate, profitable, pornography sites do not spam (Ever seen a Bangbus, Mr Chews Asian Beaver or Whitehouse.com email?), they don't have any interest in providing content to minors and they don't really need the most memorable domain names, as long as you can write it down from hearing someone say the words, it's good enough really.
I can imagine a lot of lame jokes being thrown about, but really slapping a xxx on the domain makes certain that we can avoid litigation regarding children visiting the sites and signing up with a parents card much more easily. Also, it elimates a swathe of the 'I didnt buy that porn' stories that people give to the credit card companies to force a chargeback from us, despite the fact we've rendered services to that person and can prove it. Once porn is labelled clearly, distinctively and resolutely for what it is, we can get on with operating a serious professional business.
Roll on the new TLD's! (Shame about the 3000% price increase compared to normal domains though)
An aside, What would really revolutionize the industry though is requiring some kind of contract to gain a xxx domain, binding people from sending spam (or instantly have domain suspended for X months, no tollerance of convications for fraud etc). The trouble is that anyone can register a
I'm Speechless! (Almost) I'm reminded of a Simpsons episode where Homer made a website and the traffic had increased greatly. Then he was told that his site was #1,123,012 or so behind the porno sites. Or something like that. Maybe I should have stayed speechless.
And enforce the switch by coercing any .com or .org or .net (or .bix +++) domains over to a .xxx TLD with a single page telling them that the address is an adult .xxx site.
.xxx. :-)
.edu sites should all be permitted)
.xxx and don't have to worry about any .com, .org or .net
The site content could/should/would let 'em know pretty quickly if they belong at
Whether they then want to continue is up to them.
Because of their content and the intent of that content (and the fact that they don't hand them out to any schmuck,)
That way you know what you're surfing for in
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There's a good chance that
xxx.xxx.xxx will actually resolve?
Cool!
Although beware those who've used xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx as a placeholder for an IP address, and someone's cluelessly entered it as is.
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
Going to pass a law to force these to shell out $60 just because some assholes in DC want to create the equivalent of a internet red light district? (Bovine Excrement)
Has no one read RFC 3675?
"But all your emitter and collector are belong to me!"
If you haven't made the connection yet, think about it again: it's a $12bn industry and even if a small percentage start moving at $60 a hit, that's a lot of money for the registrars. It's simply a move to catalyze domain registration.
It's naive to think that all porn sites will move to xxx and we will be able to partition them off. Porn is the most spammy content on the web and the registrars are cashing in on it--it's simple as that.
-- Binary Finary
DNS domains are intended to be organizational, not content. My organization may choose to publish 10 different types of content on its web site. We shouldn't have to register 10 different DNS domains and segregate each type of content under its own domain when we're one organization.
We already have things like content labels in the form of PICS. Maybe Google should start supporting those types of labels first?
Maybe they should just say that .com .org and .net are for pr0n, and start new ones for non-pr0n sites, and then not allow pr0n sites to register them?
Try registering a vanity domain when your name is bikerslutsfromhell, with all the pr0n companies going to .xxx finally I can get my own .com domain!
www.ibm.xxxh p.xxx
www.microsoft.xxx
www.sun.xxx
www.
There's $240 already.
Yet another domain name extension... It will never work, just like all those other domain extensions. Don't be a sucker and fork over money for thin air. Dot com will always rule.
And with the advent of powerful search engines, random typins are quite unlikely.
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My brief analysis of the situation's here. I tried, and failed, to convince Congress to go the other way.
He suggests an alternative mechanism where the user requests the type of content they do not wish to see, and the server responds appropriately. So if the user's browser sends:
Then the server would respond:This then puts the ball in the pr0n providers court to determine whether or not to respond to filter requests, but in the interests of being good netizens, they most likely would. It also means the end user determines what they want and don't want to see and it blocks any intermediaries from meddling.As a quick aside, he also mentions that we shouldn't go too nuts with the filtering because there's an inherent societal benefit in not letting people just get information they only agree with. If people are exposed to contrary beliefs, it can help break down prejudices and preconceptions.
.xxx will have minimal impact in helping filter out porn.
.spam domain wouldn't necessarily help us filter out spam.
If you don't understand why, try thinking about why a
--LP
The .xxx domain will make it easier for kids to find porn. anything.com is hit or miss, but anything.xxx will definitely get you what you're after.
paintball
that's the sound of my point flying by your head...
.xxx domain is a good idea, your suggestions of making wacko laws to enforce it are not.
To explain: Mandating "locations" for content is a slipperly slope towards tight regulations on all internet content.
Perhaps the next thing to be mandated will be anti-republican opinion (example) - which will be convieniently blocked by ISP's that support the party. Removing the audience from the source (even if by the audience's "choice") is the same as silencing the source. It's censorship by practice if not by definition.
Internet restrictions are censorship because of the way said restrictions can be controlled. See China's internet poilices for details.
the
Yes, for instance many kids trying to find out some information about the White House have had the privilege of viewing www.whitehouse.com (the real address is .gov)
I say one of the first registered names should be:
.net and .org domains not because people get confused, but that people don't "hijack" the secondary level domain name.
icann.xxx
or alternately:
icann.su.xxx
Seriously, a lot of companies register
Will CNN have to register for cnn.xxx just to make sure everyone isn't seeing doctored nude Wolf Blitzer photos? (Please, CNN, spend the $60 and spare us all)
$60 a year? When normal domains cost can be bought for $6 a year? And this is voluntary? Only the big name porno sites will make the move, if even, and I can't imagine they're going to give up their .COM address any time soon either. But for the sites that pop up over night, and are run by people just out to get a quick buck, this will do NOTHING.
.XXX domain is helping to keep our little darlings from seeing porn, won't grouping it all together make it that much easier to find? Just use a filter on google to only search the .XXX range.
Honestly. Why spend $60 and put yourself in a separate range, when you can pay $6? $60 is nothing for a large subscription site, but for some small site, I don't see anything happening any time soon.
And if this new
Yeesh. And it's all voluntary...what a crock.
Obviously it will be a priority to register hotgaycock.xxx and redirect it to suso.org. Because everyone knows! Suso.org is *the* place to go for some hot gay cock.
Why didn't they create a .kids domain? And then regulate it as much as they please. It wouldn't require porn sites to go anywhere and those sites that were aimed at kids could then register with that suffix.
.xxx.
They are more likely to make that succeed than creating a
It is only a matter of time before we see .starwars and .startrek. Seriously, who uses .biz or the new TLDs? It seems to me that the web is still reigned by .com, .edu, and .org.
I love that. Porn site people can have the stuff on the internet but in awy that if any one wants to avoid them then he/she can. What would islamic countries or japanese will do is strictly their own business.(with NO apologies to "world-cops"). May be some people will make money in writing sofwares to actually block it or find ways around it. money and business will stay there. Porn is not food that if some people can't watch so its inhuman to them. make ur own porn if ur so fan of it. rent it. or atleasr have the fairness to accept it. No one is going to be prosecuted to visit *.xxx site if u pay for the connection urself. if "free media" can be given policy guidelines by govt in "every single" country then internet users should be allowed to have ways to marshal the traffic through the internet connection they pay for.Alot less spam by the way ! and last but not the least lot less credit card frauds. we will have lot less frustration on the streets. less rapes hopefully and less child abuse. I am tired of seeing child abuse/rape news on UPN-9 Those who want to see porn dont have pretend to be "conservative". Its not strict at all. look at patriot act!
Your country's porn, or my country's porn?
I suppose I'm OK if they shovel your porn into the digital equivalent of the Lodz ghetto.
But leave mine alone, OK?
I daresay whoever registers su.xxx first will be sitting on a veritable goldmine.
(well, maybe)
DNA just wants to be free...
I tried once. The problem is that all of the labeling services SUCK. And you're kinda forced to use one of them. If you just make up your own labels it won't do anyone any good.
So, PICS, or rating.txt or whatever, whoever standardises the labeling schemas needs to make working with them a non-sanity-draining experience.
DNA just wants to be free...
Is it just me or is this just the opposite trend that we're seeing on the desktop right now with the desktop search wars?
Web: Let's classify every site on the web by using contextual DNS suffixes
Desktop: Let's forget about file extensions and index everything by data and metadata and provide intuitive search functionality.
I realize that there are independent, underlying technical, political and marketing reasons for this but at a logical level it really seems strange.
The web is coming from where the desktop is going... and vice versa.
Does this mean that those of us who have no need or desire to visit pornographic sites will be able to avoid it completely by filtering out just one TLD at the firewall?
.com .org et al still won't be porn-free for some time.
Naive of me I know, since there will be no real way of enforcing it, so
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I went to the Brooklyn Museum today. I saw an Egyptian sculpture of a gangbang that's ~2400 years old. This goddess was getting drilled by four dudes who had phalluses the size of telephone poles.
The info card said it had some kind of religious significance and fertility and rebirth etcetera. It just looked like porn to me.
There was also some graffiti some mason or artist drew showing the queen taking it from one of her advisors. It looked kinda like Monicagate.
I wonder though, how long before companies block access to the
(Ah, the joys of slashdot:)
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Man I had this idea a few years ago, but could not get backing for the ICANN, and some ICANN insideres said it would not happen. I even tried to find a small country that would change there name to XXXavia to get the ANSI top level domain of XXX.
.com to non adult uses. Using the same reasoning of limited resources used to restrict radio and broadcast T.V.
Now all they need to do is make the US restrict
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Hmmm...I think it speaks for itself.
I drank what? -- Socrates
Who is judgeing what is porn and what isn't?
.xxx domain not because the idea doesn't make sense in theory, but because it seems unenforceable and bound to create more problems then what it can solve.
Do I now have to worry about ICANN sensoring what I put on my site? Is a site that deals with breast cancer porn? How about one that deals with birth control?
Take a lesson from the gambling sites. It may be illegal to run a server from the US that offers online gambling but there is nothing anyone can do about offshore sites.
I am against a
www.google.xxx
What would really make this useful is if all smut was somehow forced to move to the .xxx domain. At that point I could finally use the internet without seeing reems and reems of pr0n.
unless of course that was what I was looking for; in which case it would be easier still to find adult material (anything.xxx would probably work).
sadly, it's not likely to happen.
do any webmasters out there use a TLD other than good old 'dot com'?
.com .net or .org
quite frankly i'm very suspect about any site not a
dot info seems to be used exclusively for phishing scams and search engine tricking. I can't even think what the other new tlds are - they're so forgettable.
it was .cum
With domain pros making big profits on domain name resales and venture capitalists planning large investments in domain names, expect rampant speculation in .xxx domains once sales begin.
RichM
Data Center Knowledge
And M$ has bought M$N.xxx where you will have the chance of seeing their famous paperclip Naked!!!
Yes, but they're merely a hosting provider. The people who actually create and distribute the porn are not paid; Livejournal simply provides a place to host discussions (they don't even provide free image hosting).
Let me explain again; maybe I was vague. If you go over to livejournal, score a free account (they have open signup now), and join the show_your_boobs community, or whatever, no money has changed or will change hands. The people making the porn do not get paid. The people receiving the porn do not pay for it.
How exactly does livejournal paying its hosting bills with donations have anything to do with the communities it hosts being, as you put it, "for-profit ventures", when they don't take in a single cent?
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
Now, given that when rules are layed out (such as please put your pr0n site on .xxx), then there are people that will ignore/abuse that rule and not follow them, rendering the rules mute. Given that some content, such as pr0n is so offensive to some, and given that the peddlers of such material aren't exacly pillars of society, then laws are required to force compliance. This is why we have liquor laws, and controlled substance laws, and traffic laws, or any other law for that matter.
Delegating (read forcing) pr0n or other 'specialized' content (yes, including political speech) into specific domains is no different than forcing history books into the history section of the library. So long as the content can be published and one can access it, then no censorship (or any fallacious 'slippery-slope' scenario to the contrary) exists.
The real problem here, I believe, is that with .xxx viewing pr0n becomes more deliberate and accountable (since .xxx domains can be readily detected) and as such some (most?) viewers of pr0n are afraid of being discovered/busted. So, the bottom line is, if you're going to view pr0n, then at least be accountable for viewing it. Hence, arguments against such a policy usually hide an alternate agenda.
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