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Mind Control Parasites in Half of All Humans

iiii writes "According to a Yahoo News story, half of the world's human population is infected with Toxoplasma, a parasite shown to alter the brain function of rats, inducing them into behavior that benefits the parasite but is suicidal for the rat. So what affect does it have on humans? Article comes complete with Heinlein 'Puppet Masters' reference. I call dibs on using Toxoplasma as a name for my rock band."

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  1. And the other half? by satcomdaddy1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Insert Political/religious/OS statement here.

    Really should be more insightful than funny, but that's not for me to decide.

    1. Re:And the other half? by musakko · · Score: 5, Funny
      Insert Political/religious/OS statement here.

      [Political/religious/OS statement]

    2. Re:And the other half? by Weh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sounds more like drs. Venkman/Spengler/Stantz

    3. Re:And the other half? by FhnuZoag · · Score: 2, Funny

      [Extremely angry rebuttal]

      [Questions about #2's intellect]

    4. Re:And the other half? by takeya · · Score: 1

      Democrats/republicans

      They are split 50/50 in this country.

    5. Re:And the other half? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 4, Funny

      [Quote from Hitler which when taken wildely out of context which has some similarities to #3's post, comparison of #3 to Hitler]

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    6. Re:And the other half? by Bewbewbew · · Score: 5, Funny

      [Accusation of bash.org plagiarism]

    7. Re:And the other half? by musakko · · Score: 3, Funny

      [Unnessecarily long, misspelled defence of original statement] [Sarcasm] [witty, annoying sig]

    8. Re:And the other half? by Xaositecte · · Score: 5, Funny

      [attempt to carry the joke out long past when it was funny]

    9. Re:And the other half? by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      [serious explanation of why parent is humorous]

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    10. Re:And the other half? by JahToasted · · Score: 1
      It would be interesting if it was found that these parasites were more frequently in members of one party more than the other. What happens if they find a way to kill the parasites, and a bunch of people reconsider their political views? What happens if those infected refuse treatment? What happens if people in power make treatments illegal?

      It's a pretty interesting scenario. Should the non-infected force the infected to take their medicine? What if the infected outnumber the non-infected and refuse to believe they are infected?

    11. Re:And the other half? by TheClam · · Score: 1

      [pleasant, off-topic atta-boy to those using generic bracketed statements]

    12. Re:And the other half? by krewemaynard · · Score: 2, Informative
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    13. Re:And the other half? by Billygoatz · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ironic that you wrote the whole joke, instead of using it's proper name 769,549.

      000001 A oldy but goody

    14. Re:And the other half? by Theatetus · · Score: 5, Funny
      Insert Political/religious

      Error: division by zero signalled

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    15. Re:And the other half? by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 4, Funny

      [Invokes Godwin's Law]

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    16. Re:And the other half? by dhanes · · Score: 2, Informative
      I love it. Old news. AND, when I talked about this exact same thing in a tongue-n-cheek offtopic posting some time back, got modded into the ground.

      May as well cough up the wiki link again too.

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    17. Re:And the other half? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1


          I didn't think most people here were invited. They're still telling them the long way. :)

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    18. Re:And the other half? by iamhassi · · Score: 1
      ["In Russia..." funny comment]

      ["Microsoft/Windows and Mind Control Parasites" funny comment]

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    19. Re:And the other half? by CrazyDuke · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Actually, partisan democrats and republicans take up about a third each of the voting population. The other third are the independants, 3rd party, and swing voters. Either way, TFA draws parallels between the parasitic infection and Schizophrenia. So, you may want to try to figure out who tends to exibit some signs of that disease. I would not limit it to any particular group or party, as it is possible that it could be something that is present as parts of multiple groups. I am considering this because both the democrat and republican political parties, as well as several of the 3rd parties exhibit self destructive behavior at certain points.

      I would also like to know if it is possible to mass test for infection, thus providing hard evidence which group of rats is sitting on the cat urine. As well as if there is a practical drug for exterminating the infection, not just treating it with happy pills at $3+ a day for the rest of everyone's lives. TFA does mention a drug pyrimethamine. There appears to be resistance issues with it, however. Knowing how to prevent infection would be a good idea as well.

      Oh, this could also explain why so many people are on feel-good meds nowadays.

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    20. Re:And the other half? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Among the less than half of the population who generally votes, perhaps... Hmmm, about half of the people in the US vote, and about half of the population are infected with mind-altering parasites. Coincidence?

    21. Re:And the other half? by Trelane · · Score: 1
      What happens if they find a way to kill the parasites
      The article specifically mentioned that, at least in rats, antipsychotics slow or stop the parasite. While not the same as killing the parasites, it at least stops the action.
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    22. Re:And the other half? by zerocool^ · · Score: 1, Redundant

      link: http://bash.org/?23396


      <Donut[AFK]> HEY EURAKARTE
      <Donut[AFK]> INSULT
      <Eurakarte> RETORT
      <Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-RETORT
      <Eurakarte> QUESTIONING OF SEXUAL PREFERENCE
      <Donut[AFK]> SUGGESTION TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
      <Eurakarte> NOTATION THAT YOU CREATE A VACUUM
      <Donut[AFK]> RIPOSTE
      <Donut[AFK]> ADDON RIPOSTE
      <Eurakarte> COUNTER-RIPOSTE
      <Donut[AFK]> COUNTER-COUNTER RIPOSTE
      <Eurakarte> NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
      <Miles_Prower> RESPONSE TO RANDOM STATEMENT AND THREAT TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES
      <Eurakarte> WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD
      <Miles_Prower> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTENCE OF TERMS
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    23. Re:And the other half? by Vulturejoe · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you actually read the whole article, you would've seen this sentence: "In fact, antipsychotic drugs were as effective as pyrimethamine, a drug that specifically eliminates Toxoplasma." (emphasis mine)

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    24. Re:And the other half? by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 3, Funny

      [Reference to irony of plagerizing a site thats nothing but people plagerizing comedians and other old jokes by adding their irc nicks where appropriate]

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    25. Re:And the other half? by IamLarryboy · · Score: 1

      [ Comment on parents sig. ]

    26. Re:And the other half? by CoughDropAddict · · Score: 1

      [Accusation that bash.org plagiarized kuro5hin.org first]

    27. Re:And the other half? by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1
      Actually, partisan democrats and republicans take up about a third each of the voting population. The other third are the independants, 3rd party, and swing voters.

      I would suggest that each partisan segment is about a quarter of the populace, with less than 20% being true independents and the remaining 30% or so just sort of swaying with the political breeze. This is the segment that would like to know more, but feels that the political landscape is too complex for them to understand and yet feels the need to vote anyway.

      Just my observations.
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    28. Re:And the other half? by Trelane · · Score: 1
      If you actually read the whole article, you would've seen this sentence
      Whoah. Hold on there, chief.

      I actually did read the whole article, but obviously missed a detail. Missing a detail does not necessarily imply lack of reading, but rather a lack of retaining all details in the article.

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    29. Re:And the other half? by dolo724 · · Score: 1

      Finally some wiseacre from Hoboken gets his turn on stage.
      He looks at the crowd with trepidation, and speaks slowly into the mic, "902,187."

      The crowd stares blankly at him, then erupts into riotous laughter.

      The young comiedian quizzes his mentor, "what was that about?"

      The older comic, wiping a tear from his eye, replied, "We haven't heard that one before!"

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    30. Re:And the other half? by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 3, Funny

      [ belated and lame attempt to get in on the running joke ]

      [ non-sequitur afterthought that might have worked as a post all by itself, but fails when combined with the first statement ]

    31. Re:And the other half? by FlameboyC11 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because the Toxoplasma doesn't want you to know...

    32. Re:And the other half? by dorkygeek · · Score: 1

      [sarcastic comment about not even getting the Wikipedia link right]

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    33. Re:And the other half? by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      [Implication that Overlord Welcome was omitted due to Overlord's influence on previous poster]

    34. Re:And the other half? by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      And yet, it still scores a +5: funny.

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    35. Re:And the other half? by Eccles · · Score: 1

      Or, the infected could try to infect the non-infected, to bring them to their point of view...

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    36. Re:And the other half? by manboy9 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think it's the other way around. You'd have to be nuts to vote for either party.

    37. Re:And the other half? by Mattintosh · · Score: 2, Funny

      [repetition of the title of the song]

      [apology in advance to Davinci's Notebook]

    38. Re:And the other half? by Magnus+Reftel · · Score: 1

      The first ones were amusing, but your comment really did make me laugh out loud. Thanks!

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    39. Re:And the other half? by 955301 · · Score: 1

      [attempt to squelch future attempts by summarizing all known jokes that were carried out long past they were funny]

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    40. Re:And the other half? by Eccles · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you read the article, apparently it explains the French. (80% infection rate)

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    41. Re:And the other half? by MEGAMAID · · Score: 1

      [Simpsons, Family Guy, Office Space, Spaceballs Quote]

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    42. Re:And the other half? by springbox · · Score: 2, Funny

      [Adult Swim]

    43. Re:And the other half? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      worse yet the only 'treatment' we have for the parasite is not guarenteed to continue working. http://www.atdn.org/access/drugs/pyri.html

      the infenction is only spreadable via unclean living, and maternally, so the 'most sure' solution is a eugenics program designed to round up all females infected, attempt treatment of parasite, those who 'remain infected' are 'sterilized'. combined with good sanitation practices promoted to society... we could lick this disease in no time with that. of course... that's not 'practical' in a free society. however, the clean living, and routine testing of the parasite in females, with reccomendation that they begin a treatment regimin... before considering pregnancy...

      it also helps explain people who can stand to live in cat urine infested homes. the parasite may have made the smell of cat urine more pleasing to them as it does with rats.

    44. Re:And the other half? by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      Insert Political/religious
      Error: division by zero signalled


      Oh, come now. Religion is around us every day, so the this is not a division by zero. The numeric result, however, is 'complex'.

    45. Re:And the other half? by satcomdaddy1 · · Score: 1

      "Enormous penis", or "Internet Porn"? They have other songs?

    46. Re:And the other half? by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, that old highschool mathematical dilemma; is dividing zero by zero infinite or zero?

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    47. Re:And the other half? by ErroneousBee · · Score: 1

      [Reminisce over how great Office Space was.]

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    48. Re:And the other half? by Alzheimers · · Score: 1

      I prefer the more common title:

      Imaginary

    49. Re:And the other half? by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      [Exhortation that you all get a life]

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    50. Re:And the other half? by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      "I used to think my brain was the most important organ of my body
      until I realized what was telling me this." -- Emo Phillips

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    51. Re:And the other half? by DocOmega · · Score: 1

      [Correction to Wikipedia link, whoring for a +5 informative]

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    52. Re:And the other half? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      Ah yes, that old highschool mathematical dilemma; is dividing zero by zero infinite or zero?

      It's only a dilemma because neither of your choices are the right answer. :-P

    53. Re:And the other half? by Senzei · · Score: 1

      [Irritated retort that deliberate attempts to invoke Godwin's Law are not considered instances of such]

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    54. Re:And the other half? by phxbadash · · Score: 1

      Bush gets re-elected

    55. Re:And the other half? by lupinstel · · Score: 1

      [Claim that something is ironic when in fact it isn't ironic, which is ironic in itself.]

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    56. Re:And the other half? by Theatetus · · Score: 1
      Ah yes, that old highschool mathematical dilemma; is dividing zero by zero infinite or zero?

      *shrug* I don't know if it's a dilemma. Theoretically, X/0 is specifically undefined, so it is neither zero nor infinite (except in the sense that "infinite" encompasses "undefined"). Practically, X / 0 for nonzero X behaves in many ways like aleph-nought (or "infinity" in the casual sense), while 0 / 0 is the entire subject of the differential calculus (and in many cases can be expressed as a limit of the quotient of the two quantities that are approaching zero).

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    57. Re:And the other half? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      That's actually what I meant - both are the same group. Sorry it wasn't more clear. :)

    58. Re:And the other half? by Ed_Pinkley · · Score: 1

      If I had points you would get 'em

      Slightly on topic. Anyone rember the short story by Asimov where a parasite made people (mostly men, IIRC) run off to space? There was a 4 legged alien. It was from the point of view of a wife. I don't remember any robots in it.

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    59. Re:And the other half? by QMO · · Score: 1

      Not to suggest that the Parent doesn't understand why division by zero is undefined, but there's got to be some slashdotter that doesn't understand, and would like to.

      Division is defined as the inverse of multiplication.
      This is why dividing by zero is undefined.

      Example:
      6 / 2 = 3 because 2 x 3 = 6. That is how division is defined.

      Now consider:
      6 / 0 = ?
      This is undefined because there is no ? such that 0 x ? = 6.
      (Hint: There are (infinitely) many sizes of infinity, and none of the infinities are numbers.)
      (Interestingly, to me, 0 / 0 = ? is undefined because 0 x ? = 0 has multiple solutions.)

      Undefined doesn't mean that mathematicians simply haven't got together to make a definition.

      I apologize if my informal language and notation has offended any mathemeticians out there. I plead a desire for clarity without special symbols to a group that includes non-mathematicians.

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  2. Welcome... by Elitist_Phoenix · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one have ALREADY welcomed our parasitic overlords.

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    1. Re:Welcome... by dolphinling · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, according to someone I'm talking to at the moment, this has been known for a long time and Yahoo is dumb for reporting it as "news". That, and 1/2 of humans is a very conservative estimate.

      So it's more than likely you have already welcomed our parasitic overlords.

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    2. Re:Welcome... by packeteer · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/thisweek/story/0,12 977,1048642,00.html

      Dated Thursday September 25, 2003

      Ive read that these parasited are more common in the UK or perhaps we only know of more cases there becuase people are looking harder. Im not exactly an expert on the topic but i know this has been "news" for years now.

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    3. Re:Welcome... by SpaceballsTheUserNam · · Score: 1

      Shhh.. just act nornal, he's got a brain slug.

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    4. Re:Welcome... by Nuclear+Elephant · · Score: 3, Funny

      Toxoplasma gondii is a common parasite found in the guts of cats

      Sheesh, c'mon, as folllowers of gondii, they're peaceful toxoplasma.

    5. Re:Welcome... by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      It's a pretty subtle joke ... did you hear the "whoosh" as it went over your head?

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    6. Re:Welcome... by gronofer · · Score: 3, Funny
      I like the bit where the Czech researcher is baffled how the 1996 result suddenly appeared in the British press ... in 2003.

      Now we can be equally baffled about how the 2003 press articles suddenly appear on Yahoo/Slashdot.

    7. Re:Welcome... by alicenextdoor · · Score: 5, Informative
      Toxoplasma gondii is a protozoan which has cats as its definitive host. It has a wide range of intermediate hosts, and is capable of infecting all warm-blooded vertebrates, including humans. Toxoplasma lives inside the epithelial cells lining the intestine of its feline host. Eggs are shed with the faeces, and can survive in soil for several months. Toxoplasma cells can also penetrate work their way out of the intestine and infect almost any other cell type, eventually forming cysts in the host's brain, liver and muscles. Intermediate hosts are infected either by eating food or water contaminated with infected cat faeces; by eating undercooked meat from other intermediate hosts containing Toxoplasma cysts; or, in the case of some unfortunates, via the placenta from an infected mother.

      Back to the rats. Rats are easily infected with Toxoplasma, and have been the subject of a lot of experimentation. Infection tends to lead to the establishment of Toxoplasma cysts in the brain, and alteration of the rat's behaviour. Infected rats tend to be more active and less afraid of novelty, both of which behaviours are likely to place the rat at increased risk of predation by cats. The changes go further than that, however. Rats are inherently, and understandably, afraid of the odour of cats. Even lab rats which have not been exposed to cats for generations will avoid areas marked with cat urine. Toxoplasma infected rats do not, however, share this aversion; in fact, rats tested in pens marked with different types of scent (rat urine, cat urine, rabbit urine and water) actually seemed to be suicidally attracted to the cat-scented areas . The infected rats appeared to be completely healthy in all other ways .

      The implications of this research are enough to send a frisson of fear down the spine of anyone, devoted parasitologist or otherwise. Toxoplasma infection is common amongst humans. It has been estimated that 30% of the global human population may be infected, with prevalence in specific countries ranging from 22% in the UK to 84% in France. Can the parasite affect human behaviour in the way in which it affects that of rats? The answer appears to be "yes". One manner in which this happens is via direct damage to the host's brain and central nervous system. Babies born to mothers infected with Toxoplasma early in fetal development can suffer from widespread disease, including mental retardation . Infection later in development can lead to a persistant infection with no apparent symptoms, with the parasite forming cysts in the brain. With any luck the immune system can keep the parasite under control; depression of the immune system, however, can result in its reactivation, with consequent neurological or psychiatric effects.

      It has also been suggested that prenatal exposure to toxoplasmosis can increase an individual's susceptibility to schizophrenia , but because of the difficulty of experimenting in this area, there is little supporting evidence , although it is interesting to note that several of the drugs used in the treatment of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder inhibit the replication of Toxoplasma . Does the manipulation hypothesis hold in humans? If it does, it must be only as a non-adaptive side effect of the ability to manipuate hosts such as mice and rats, since, as Joanne Webster points out in a fascinating review article on the subject , humans are rarely preyed upon by cats. There does appear to be some evidence that human personality traits are affected by Toxoplasma infection, but the one study that has specifically looked for an effect is less than wholly convincing. Flegr and Hrdý, found that men with chronic Toxoplasma infections had a greater tendency to disregard rules and were more suspecting, jealous and dogmatic than non-infected controls . However, the number of males tested was only 195, of whom 56 were infected, and the effect disappeared entirely if the male and female subjects were analyzed together. This research provides a fascinating, if somewhat disturbing, hint of an effect, but it seems safe to say that most of us are more than mere parasite-controlled robots.

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    8. Re:Welcome... by aichpvee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Which one has the parasite in their brain?

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    9. Re:Welcome... by Loconut1389 · · Score: 1

      that explains all the people standing around at pee soaked corners of the streets. I think most of them are usually wearing stilettos- is that a side effect?

    10. Re:Welcome... by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

      I think not. My robotic legions with laser beams for eyeballs will scourge them. Many and plaintive shall be the the mewlings from the smouldering ruins of their kitty litter cities. My mighty engines of war will spew forth from their cavernous underground iron factories and the earth will tremble under their steely clacking locomotion devices! The dust of centuries will cover the pussies!

      All who would infect my brain with parasites...

      Die!

    11. Re:Welcome... by superflyguy · · Score: 1

      Infected rats tend to be more active and less afraid of novelty, both of which behaviours are likely to place the rat at increased risk of predation by cats. The changes go further than that, however. Rats are inherently, and understandably, afraid of the odour of cats. Even lab rats which have not been exposed to cats for generations will avoid areas marked with cat urine. Toxoplasma infected rats do not, however, share this aversion; in fact, rats tested in pens marked with different types of scent (rat urine, cat urine, rabbit urine and water) actually seemed to be suicidally attracted to the cat-scented areas . The infected rats appeared to be completely healthy in all other ways. Sounds very dangerous... I mean, humans who aren't afraid of exercise, novelty OR cats... Being energetic is bad, accepting change and creativity is worse, and CATS... That must be horrible having no inherent fear of cats.

    12. Re:Welcome... by savorymedia · · Score: 1

      HA! I knew it! Space Brain Parasites Cause Tendencies Toward Socialism! News at 11!

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    13. Re:Welcome... by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      Well, I just asked mine and they deny their existence. That suits me, it wasn't as if my boss was going to believe it was their fault I was late for work.

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    14. Re:Welcome... by TychoCelchuuu · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hm. That explains why some people like cats then :D

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    15. Re:Welcome... by jZnat · · Score: 1

      That's it! These mind control parasites are an elaborate plot for Tony Blair to remain in office as your benevolent dictator for life!

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    16. Re:Welcome... by noamsml · · Score: 1

      Damage to brain and possible schizophrenia are still pretty frightening, thank you very much.

    17. Re:Welcome... by The+Mad+Debugger · · Score: 3, Funny

      Obviously, you must destroy all cats! That worked so well for Europe last time.

    18. Re:Welcome... by Pranadevil2k · · Score: 1

      Well obviously. Being organics, we're parasite controlled cyborgs, thank you.

    19. Re:Welcome... by LouisZepher · · Score: 1

      That was just the sound of the deadline...

    20. Re:Welcome... by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

      Intermediate hosts are infected either by eating food or water contaminated with infected cat faeces; by eating undercooked meat from other intermediate hosts containing Toxoplasma cysts

      To be safe, make sure you cook your cat feces to 170 degrees or higher before eating.

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    21. Re:Welcome... by Etobian · · Score: 1
      Toxoplasma infected rats do not...share this aversion; ...rats...actually seemed to be suicidally attracted to the cat-scented areas...

      Toxoplasma infection...has been estimated...[to range]...from 22% in the UK to 84% in France.

      If that's the case, then why do French tanks have a reverse gear?

    22. Re:Welcome... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I for one have ALREADY welcomed our parasitic overlords.

      That is not you typing, but the parasitic overlords.

    23. Re:Welcome... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Toxoplasma infections [in humans] had a greater tendency to disregard rules and were more suspecting...and dogmatic than non-infected controls

      You know, it would not hurt to test W. It is possible that some of us voted for a parasite.

    24. Re:Welcome... by Quantam · · Score: 1

      That is one mighty fine thesis on what's wrong with all the anti-war hippies

      *ducks*

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    25. Re:Welcome... by hkgroove · · Score: 1

      Could good ol' L. Ron have been right?

    26. Re:Welcome... by igny · · Score: 1

      our parasitic overlords.

      mind controlling and changing behavior parasitic overlords. Similar to these

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    27. Re:Welcome... by vertinox · · Score: 1

      Infected rats tend to be more active and less afraid of novelty, both of which behaviours are likely to place the rat at increased risk of predation by cats.

      Hrm... I grew up with wild cats that ate more mice than I can count and I used to play with the dead reates by poking them with a stick.

      Yet, I observe, I don't fear cat piss nor am I afraid of novelty and I am more active than my standard human brethern.

      So does this mean I'm infected? I mean is this a bad thing? Baring being invaded by 20ft tall alien cats that is.

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    28. Re:Welcome... by juancn · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are right. I'm from Argentina, and we were taught about Toxoplasmosis in 6th grade biology class (that's when we were 11 years old).

      It usually is not dangerous, and the body gets rid of it quite easily (it takes a month or so, with flu-like symptoms), the biggest problem with it is getting the infection during a pregnancy, which can cause malformations in the fetus.

      Typically you catch it from contact with cats (thats why woman who hadn't had toxoplasmosis shouldn't be in contact with cats during the pregnancy).

      I'll probably burn some karma with this, but what caught my attention is that I assumed that the knowledge about it would be vox-populi, since it was taught to me in primary school.

    29. Re:Welcome... by VanessaDannenberg · · Score: 1
      To be safe, make sure you cook your cat feces to 170 degrees or higher before eating.

      I guess this gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "eat shit!" :-)

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    30. Re:Welcome... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > That is one mighty fine thesis on what's wrong with all the anti-war hippies

      You've got that backwards. The hippies are avoiding death while the toxoplasmosis causes tons of aggressive rednecks to go shoot at things in the desert without considering that someone might shoot back... or their parents considering it: note the nutbag Sheehan who didn't mind her son going to war until he was killed; imagine that happening in a war.

    31. Re:Welcome... by pjp6259 · · Score: 1

      humans are rarely preyed upon by cats.

      You've obviously never seen my cats.

      No Fluffy! Arghghthhthhgh... Get'em off me.

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    32. Re:Welcome... by Darkangael · · Score: 1

      The other countries do not have as much information available, as in these countries the parasites have already gained control of the press!

    33. Re:Welcome... by dublin · · Score: 1

      Toxoplasma infected rats do not...share this aversion; ...rats...actually seemed to be suicidally attracted to the cat-scented areas...

      Toxoplasma infection...has been estimated...[to range]...from 22% in the UK to 84% in France.

      >If that's the case, then why do French tanks have a reverse gear?


      No, you've got it wrong - French tanks only have a reverse gear - it's ideal for falling back. What would the French ever use a forward gear for?

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  3. mind controlling bugs by helioquake · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Shhhhh, be quiet! Don't give DARPA any idea!

    I wonder how many people are going to blame their inability to work harder (if at all) on this parasite on Monday.

    1. Re:mind controlling bugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      I wonder how many people are going to blame their inability to work harder (if at all) on this parasite on Monday.


      Not me. I'm going to blame the parasite who hired me.

  4. You gotta have mind controollllllllll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    HYPNOGERMS!!!

    1. Re:You gotta have mind controollllllllll by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOGERM!

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  5. Yet another proof... by TheCreeep · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...of God's Intelligent Design(TM) here on Earth!!

    1. Re:Yet another proof... by tomee · · Score: 1

      That crazy God!

    2. Re:Yet another proof... by roastedMnM · · Score: 1

      The grandparent comment is a (humerous) reference to the Hitchhiker's Guide trilogy.

    3. Re:Yet another proof... by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      God was under the control of parasites! THAT's what made him create the world, to make something for the parasites to live in!

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    4. Re:Yet another proof... by cedspam · · Score: 1

      with such a god, you dont really need satan. see wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma

    5. Re:Yet another proof... by LouisZepher · · Score: 1

      And a poorly executed reference at that.

    6. Re:Yet another proof... by CFTM · · Score: 1

      Not to be the rain cloud on a parade, but this joke needs to be put in to the same category as "All your base belong to us" or "I personally will welcome our new overlords". Please, for the love of jove, stop.

  6. just a new name by waterbear · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Mind control parasites':

    'Toxoplasma'? I thought they were called politicians ...

    (if only it was _only_ half of all humans ...)

    -wb-

    1. Re:just a new name by helioquake · · Score: 5, Funny

      You are mean.

      Apologize to the parasites.

    2. Re:just a new name by somethinghollow · · Score: 1, Funny

      They are called Republicans...

    3. Re:just a new name by thx1138_az · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which parasites? Toxoplasmas or politicians?

    4. Re:just a new name by thx1138_az · · Score: 1

      Or so say's your Democrat overlord

    5. Re:just a new name by NetRAVEN5000 · · Score: 1

      Are you saying that politicians are human? I've seen the pictures - John Kerry is more like a Frankenstein.

    6. Re:just a new name by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Funny

      see, you took a funnyu joke and made it mean. I bet whenever you join in a raucous conversation full of laughter, everything grinds to halt, with people shaking their head sadly.

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    7. Re:just a new name by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      First one, then the other!

    8. Re:just a new name by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      Politicians, of course. Toxoplasmas are the ones apologising.

    9. Re:just a new name by zerocool^ · · Score: 1


      http://www.gotfuturama.com/Multimedia/EpisodeSound s/1ACV02/26.mp3
      found at:
      http://www.gotfuturama.com/Multimedia/EpisodeSound s/1ACV02/

      Man: "Yep! Drops down to minus 173."
      Fry: "Fahrenheit or Celsius?"
      Man: "First one, then t'other."

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    10. Re:just a new name by Lizard+Slayer · · Score: 1

      No, Toxoplasm just makes you want to go hunting with politicans.

  7. No surprise here! by croddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I favor unreasonably huge subsidies to the brain slug planet.

    1. Re:No surprise here! by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1
      I favor unreasonably huge subsidies to the brain slug planet.

      Mmmm foreign aid project on Titan. Ideal.

    2. Re:No surprise here! by Elitist_Phoenix · · Score: 1

      I favor unreasonably huge subsidies to the brain slug planet.
      Senator: Ah Mr. Speaker I'd like to tack on a wager to that bill. 2 Million dollars worth of tax payers money to the perverted arts.
      Speaker: All in favour of the modified bill.
      (Votes are split along part lines)
      Kent: I've said it once and I'll say it again. Democracy just doesn't work!

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    3. Re:No surprise here! by Belseth · · Score: 1
      I favor unreasonably huge subsidies to the brain slug planet.

      The planet's name is Haliburton and they already get tens of billions in subsides each year.

    4. Re:No surprise here! by inter+alias · · Score: 1

      I want Berkeley back!

    5. Re:No surprise here! by Whumpsnatz · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't Bush's brain slug have starved to death by now? (poor fella).

    6. Re:No surprise here! by nametaken · · Score: 1

      I'm in favor of destroying all the cats and using chimps for company... until they start to speak. When they start to say "no", we should irradicatte them.

  8. Bushoplasma by dangitman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does it happen to affect 51% of Americans?

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    1. Re:Bushoplasma by bjheu · · Score: 1

      no, just 49%

    2. Re:Bushoplasma by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Given that more than 51% of Americans *Don't* vote... this organism must what is deterring people from voting, not what is causing the 20% (or so) who do vote to vote in the stupid ways that they do...

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    3. Re:Bushoplasma by mapmaker · · Score: 1

      No, that extra 1% was Diebold.

    4. Re:Bushoplasma by drew · · Score: 1

      well, somebody already pointed out that many countries that have significantly more left leaning governments than the U.S. have very high incidences of toxoplasma infection (france being among the highest) so i suspect that toxoplasma (if it is politically motivated) must sense some sort of evolutionary advantage in a welfare state. which leaves us with only one possible course of action...

      everyone go out and buy pet cats for all of your republican friends.

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  9. Name taken by lysergic.acid · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's already a German punk band called Toxoplasma.

    1. Re:Name taken by dolphinling · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Interesting that you should post here with that username, because at least according to a straight dope article, Toxoplasma produces LSD.

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    2. Re:Name taken by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just imagine all the hippies endulging in cat feces...

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    3. Re:Name taken by lysergic.acid · · Score: 4, Informative

      So Toxoplasma triggers the production of LSD in the host organism's brain, and this is believed to be a major cause of schizophrenia in humans? Are there any other sources that support this claim? LSD is somewhat difficult to test for in humans, and even then the link between schizophrenia and LSD is a rather contentious subject in the medical community. The article itself also seems to question the verity of this hypothesis:

      "A word of caution: our authors' impressive theoretical edifice is built on some pretty thin evidence. It's simplistic to say T. gondii works by triggering the production of LSD--among other problems with the idea, acid mainly gives rise to visual hallucinations, whereas the delusions of schizophrenics are primarily auditory (e.g., hearing voices)."

      As you can probably guess, I am a big fan of acid and psychedelics in general. I've taken many psychedelic drugs, including but not limited to: Cannabis, LSD, Psilocybin Mushrooms, Mescaline, MDMA, AMT, 2C-E, 2C-I, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, 5MeO-AMT, 5MeO-DiPT, Ketamine, DXM, LSA, Salvia, and many others. I've taken traditional psychedelics (Tryptamines and Phenethylamines such as LSD, Psilocybin, Mescaline, MDMA, 2C-*, 5MeO-*, etc.), dissociatives (PCP, DXM, Ketamine, Nitrous, Salvia, etc.), and even deliriants (Dramamine, Datura, Amanita Muscaria, Bella Donna, etc.) on occasion, so I'm pretty well-versed in the various categories of psychedelic drugs and their effects.

      Out of the 3 main categories of psychedelic drugs, I would say that the most dangerous is probably the deliriants, typically anticholinergenic deliriants. Strong dissociatives such as PCP may induce prolonged psychotic states, possibly even causing long-term brain-damage with chronic exposure, but they are unlikely to cause full-blown hallucinations as with anticholinergenic drugs. Conventional psychedelics such as LSD, pot, Mushrooms, Mescaline, etc. are even less likely to induce psychotic/delusional episodes compared to strong dissociatives like PCP. Typically, people on traditional psychedelics such as acid may see OEVs(opened eye visuals) or CEVs(closed eye visuals) but they are not hallucinations in the strict sense. They are more accurately described as perceptual illusions, such as moving patterns, altered spatial perception, synesthesia, etc. Only deleriants cause full-blown hallucinations that one can't distinguish from reality. This is why there is a very high incidence of "bad trips" on deliriants, many of which resulting in ER visits or stays in the psychiatric ward.

      While I don't doubt that a bad trip on acid can be the springboard for schizophrenia, these are usually cases where the individual is already predisposed towards mental illness, and the acid simply triggers it by inducing a traumatic experience. Most people, however, walk away from their bad trips relatively unscathed. Some naive users may continue to be haunted afterwards by embarassing things they did while they were tripping, but few suffer any long-term psychological effects from their bad trips.

      I have simply known too many people who have done acid or similar hallucinogens and have never exhibited any psychotic behavior to believe that LSD can cause schizophrenia. In fact, I don't think that LSD plays much of a role in the etiology of schizophrenia or any other mental illness. It's more likely that most people who develop schizophrenia after taking LSD would have still developed the mental disorder eventually even if they hadn't taken any drugs.

      I've only met 3 individuals whom I've witnessed really bizarre behavior from after they took psychedelic drugs. One appeared to experience acute psychotic episodes after smoking pot or drinking alcohol, but this seemed to be due to his being socially maladjusted more than anything. The second individual behaved very strangely after consuming mushrooms on 2 different occassions, but otherwise he was perfectly normal even when he smoked weed or

    4. Re:Name taken by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just imagine all the hippies endulging in cat feces...

      Hey man, this is good shit.

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    5. Re:Name taken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      There are 11 types of people in the world: those who can count in binary, and those who can't.

      Is that intentional irony, or merely an attempt to look smart gone ironically wrong?

    6. Re:Name taken by tnsimonson · · Score: 1

      "The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge."

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    7. Re:Name taken by phauxfinnish · · Score: 1

      For sometime now, its been a running gag for the online drug-kids to inform neophites that cat piss is a highly psychoactive drug. I've seen all sorts of preperations listed for it on various sites.

    8. Re:Name taken by nazsco · · Score: 2, Funny

      > There are 11 types of people in the world: those who can count in binary, and those who can't.

      there are 11 types. those who can count in binary, those who'd love to. and those who have friends.

    9. Re:Name taken by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 1

      Why was the parent post modded off-topic? I found it very informative....

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    10. Re:Name taken by serutan · · Score: 1

      Okay, how about Suicidal Grasshoppers?

    11. Re:Name taken by nuffle · · Score: 1

      I don't believe the authors were stating that the presence of LSD can "damage" the brain into producing schizophrenia, but that the presence of LSD is precisely what is causing schizophrenia. It's long been known that the symptoms of an LSD trip are rather similar to the symptoms of schizophrenia. But, for the most part, once you're done with the immediate symptoms, there aren't particularly any prolonged effects.

      So I think the authors are hypothesizing that these buggies are basically creating LSD for the hosts which causes them to continiously trip. Interesting idea, but how do they reconcile the fact that one is immune to the effect of LSD for a short period (1-2 days) after the initial symptoms. If schizophrenia is in fact caused by LSD, then you'd think schizophrenics would continuously be "sobering up" for periods of one or two days before having symptoms again.

      By the way, be careful!

    12. Re:Name taken by iiii · · Score: 1

      Damn!! Back to the drawing board on the rock band name.

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    13. Re:Name taken by iiii · · Score: 1

      Dude.
      That is a frighteningly complete and detailed analysis of mind altering substances. Disturbing and yet utterly fascinating.
      I hope you are ok after doing all that shit. If writing and command of English is any measure, I guess you're doing better than most people around here.

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  10. Re:Nothing to see here... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    These aren't the parasites you are looking for.

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  11. Rock band: too late... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ...as wikipedia knows:
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_(Punkband)

    They actually also have the according website:
    http://www.toxoplasma.de/

  12. 50% of humans found with cat parasite by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

    Its no wonder so many are infected.

    Us males can't stop licking pussy!

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    1. Re:50% of humans found with cat parasite by idlake · · Score: 1

      Pussy, not pussy, you schmuck.

      You just gave us another example why sex ed is so important!

  13. Wowa, by XMilkProject · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All the posts so far seem to be joking about this, but it sorta freaks me out!

    It seems to be strong evidence that parasites can control the behavior of a host in fairly complex ways, which opens up alot of sci-fi movies for a real life encore.

    Anyone familiar with these parasites in more detail? Any information? Are there other parasites that humans have that do cause changes of behavior?

    How do these things evolve? Are they complex lifeforms, or very very simple?

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    1. Re:Wowa, by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It seems to be strong evidence that parasites can control the behavior of a host in fairly complex ways

      "Influence" rather than "control". TFA originates in a site that looks for SF in the news, sometimes they look rather too hard. But consider how you act when you have a cold -- sneezing, for instance, creating a nice aerosol spray to spread the virus. Many skin infections casue itchiness, making you scratch and distribute flakes, containing spores; etc. (If this is Intelligent Design, I'd like to ask who is the Chosen Race -- us or the parasites?)

    2. Re:Wowa, by Marsmensch · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it freaks me out too...

      From the wikipedia article:

      "It has been found that the parasite has the ability to change the behavior of its host: infected rats and mice are less fearful of cats, infact some of the infected rats actually seek out the cat urine-marked areas again and again. The parasite alters the mind and thus the behavior of the rat for its own benefit leading to a propagation of the lifecycle.[1]

      Half of the world's human population is infected with Toxoplasma. Given the close biological similarities between mice and humans, it has been suggested that human behaviour could also be affected in some way, and some epidemiological links may have been found between latent toxoplasmosis infections and car crashes, slower reactions, an increase in risk-taking behaviors, and schizophrenia.Toxoplasma infection is associated with damage to astrocytes, glial cells which surround and support neurons. Schizophrenia is also associated with damage to astrocytes. Pregnant women with high levels of antibodies to Toxoplasma are more likely to give birth to children who will develop schizophrenia. Human cells raised in petri dishes, and infected with Toxoplasma, will respond to drugs like haloperidol; the growth of the parasite stops. Haloperidol is an antipsychotic, used to treat schizophrenia."

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    3. Re:Wowa, by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Last I checked sneezing wasn't suicidal.

    4. Re:Wowa, by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      I've heard of another such parasite. Apparently, the reason French people are - um - weird is because all the snails they eat give them some parasite which influences their behaviour (makes them less rational, or something). This may well just be a racist slur, but it's worth spreading. I can't provide a source, btw, and I'm too drunk and lazy to google it.

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    5. Re:Wowa, by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 1
      It seems to be strong evidence that parasites can control the behavior of a host in fairly complex ways, which opens up alot of sci-fi movies for a real life encore.

      Cancer can influence the behavior of your body in similar ways depending on where it develops. A tumor in your brain can cause some pretty odd results.

    6. Re:Wowa, by onedotzero · · Score: 1

      Hang on... are you suggesting that it's the germs' influence that causes the sneeze?

      I'm pretty sure that by the time you're sneezing and coughing and your nose is running, the cold has pretty much run its course. These actions are just your body's way of getting the junk out after it's dealt with it.

      Whilst sneezing is beneficial to the germ, I find it difficult to believe that it was the germ's influence.

      I may be wrong, of course. It's early and I'm hungover.

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    7. Re:Wowa, by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      This is the way I see it - if the cold virus has survived until now it's because factors such as the one you talked about are true (us sneezing and spreading the virus). There may have been lots of virus species in the past, but the ones who survived are the ones which can be spread by the reactions they cause on our body. If this can be called "influencing" or not, I'll leave to each one of you to decide, but for me it's just simple selection of survivable species.

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    8. Re:Wowa, by Flossymike · · Score: 1

      I think you'll find it's documented here ;-)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(TNG_episo de)

    9. Re:Wowa, by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1
      And it's not say you can take for granted, given TFA and statistically speaking, half of the posts on Slashdot are made under influence of toxoplasmas. They are not only trying to control you, which is cumbersome I admit, but they are trying to rule on Slashdot, which is a real problem.

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    10. Re:Wowa, by slashname3 · · Score: 1

      Well it would explain the terrorist problem. Blowing ones self up does not seem like a particularly good thing for the host, but apparently the parasites think it is good.

      Or maybe they just think it is a big joke.

    11. Re:Wowa, by Plunky · · Score: 1

      But could you believe that germs that accidentally cause a host to sneeze could evolve* such that they were more able to survive for long enough in the fog to be inhaled by another member of the hosts social group?

      Presumably any such germs did not thrive unless they evolved* other transmission mechanisms.

      Also, that germs that cause hosts that are not social animals to sneeze probably didnt get much benefit and might not evolve* in that direction (whats the prevalence of atmoshperic borne flu in non-social animals?)

      Anyway what I'm suggesting is that you have it backwards - the germ probably adapted to fit the benefits rather than developing said benefits.

      (*not valid in Kansas)

    12. Re:Wowa, by onedotzero · · Score: 1

      This is more likely. I would be much more inclined to believe that germs adapted to their environment rather than instigating responses in a host. That is, the germs that lived longer after being sneezed out had more chance to propogate and infect further hosts. I just don't see 'cause host to sneeze' as being part of their genetic makeup.

    13. Re:Wowa, by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      All the posts so far seem to be joking about this, but it sorta freaks me out! ... Anyone familiar with these parasites in more detail? - apparently you have all the pieces of the puzzle, but can't put 2 and 2 together, are you sure you have no parasite of your own? Do you know why they are all joking? It is because the parasites are very much familiar with all those people making those posts in a very very detailed way - through their brains.

      Any information? Are there other parasites that humans have that do cause changes of behavior? - certainly. Funny posts on /. about parasites - that would be one of the symptoms of the behavior modifications.

      How do these things evolve? Are they complex lifeforms, or very very simple? - judging by the /. comments, they are very simple.

    14. Re:Wowa, by ajs · · Score: 1

      If you're familiar with the fungal world, this is not shocking. There is a fungus that infects ants. It causes them to climb to the top of the nearest blade of grass (or equivalent), where the clutch firmly and die. The fungus then sprouts a spore-dispersing stalk from the ant's head. When I first read about it, if it had not been a serious field guide, I would have assumed it was a joke. But, I've come across a number of references to it, since.

    15. Re:Wowa, by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      Last I checked sneezing wasn't suicidal


      It doesn't need to be. The point of parasitic behaviour control isn't to harm the host, it's to help the parasite. Making the host human suicidal would probably not help the parasite spread to other humans (unless it could convince its host to jump into the nearest sausage-grinding machine, perhaps...)

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    16. Re:Wowa, by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      This probably explains why we keep doing really stupid things like breeding as if there were no tomorrow


      No need to invoke parasites to explain that. We keep doing those things because those were all things that worked very well in the past.

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    17. Re:Wowa, by mysticgoat · · Score: 1

      This probably explains why we keep doing really stupid things...

      Such as jogging alone in mountain lion country in California, with head phones blasting pounding rhythms into a toxoplasmosed brain... seems like the feline predator / prey model for taxoplasmosis could hold up even in human secondary host situations.

      Here's an idea for all you health-related grad students looking for a thesis topic: lets see some comparisons of toxoplasma antibody titers between participants of extreme sports and the "normal" population.

    18. Re:Wowa, by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      These ways of affecting a host are not very complex. But there was a fascinating SF story years ago, about a behavior-affecting prion that encouraged people to give blood. This created a vector for transmission, but because people felt this need to give blood they seemed to become better for it and feel they were doing something good in their lives, so they felt somewhat morally better and became better people for it.

      It was fascinating reading.

    19. Re:Wowa, by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1
      It's a fluke, not a fungus, according to TFA, which also mentioned a couple of other interesting facts of Nature:

      The lancet fluke Dicrocoelium dendriticum forces its ant host to attach to the tips of grass blades, the easier to be eaten. The fluke needs to get into the gut of a grazing animal to complete its life cycle.

      The fluke Euhaplorchis californiensis causes fish to shimmy and jump so wading birds will grab them and eat them, for the same reason.

      Hairworms, which live inside grasshoppers, sabotage the grasshopper's central nervous system, forcing them to jump into pools of water, drowning themselves. Hairworms then swim away from their hapless hosts to continue their life cycle.

    20. Re:Wowa, by ajs · · Score: 1

      I never said it was a fungus, I was just pointing out that it's not shocking, given the fungal world has "been there, done that".

    21. Re:Wowa, by ggambett · · Score: 1

      If this is Intelligent Design, I'd like to ask who is the Chosen Race -- us or the parasites?

      Us, of course. Errr, I mean, you humans. Dammit, blew my cover again :(

    22. Re:Wowa, by blargbigfoot · · Score: 1

      A tapeworm will make you eat more. Sounds like behavior modification to me. In all serious after a undergraduate Parasitology course the major lesson I learned was they are to be respected but not overly feared. For the most part 95% of a parasite species lives in about 5% of their host species. Simply put they infected the hell out of the host they are in but have a hard time "island-hopping" to the next host. If I remember correctly T. gondii is really only a major concern to immune compromised individuals and of course pregnant women. The cysts take about 3 days to mature in cat crap, so if absolutely required a women should change the box daily.

    23. Re:Wowa, by Grail · · Score: 1
      I'd like to ask who is the Chosen Race -- us or the parasites?

      You're thinking at too high a level.

      The chosen race are genomes. All life is about propagating them, all life depends on them, they are in fact the essence of life. Next time you ask yourself, "what is the meaning of life?" you know the answer - "to propagate the genes that made me."

      That story about Moses leading the people to the promised land? That's a meme propagated by the genomes describing their exodus from some great cook-pot in the sky aboard an icy comet, all the way across the barren wasteland of space to this planet, the promised land.

      You've heard that throwaway line about the fleas arguing about who owns the dog? Well, this argument about who is the chosen race (of humans) is a hugely inflated inverse version of that joke.

    24. Re:Wowa, by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      The chosen race are genomes.

      It was a joke ... and I've read The Selfish Gene too.

    25. Re:Wowa, by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      You are almost there...
      Now take one step more.
      Once you have a population that survives sneezing, the next step is a version that encourages sneezing to be more common so it reproduces faster than the non-sneezing variety.

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  14. This could not be news by skillet-thief · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...or at least it doesn't matter. Toxoplasma has been around and known for a long time. The only real news is that infection rates are *down* (from something like 90% iirc not so long ago) because humans are spending less and less quality time with rodents. This mostly concerns pregnant women, who risk losing their fetus if the *catch* toxoplasma during the pregnancy. So it is far better to be part of the 50% who is already infected so that your antibodies are prepped. So yeah, move along.

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    1. Re:This could not be news by Skreems · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Does this explain why religion is on the decline? As less people are infected, less display symptoms of schizophrenia, such as "feeling the divine presence", and "talking to God". Maybe true devotion in the middle ages was a neurochemical imbalance caused by a parasite, and now that humans are living more cleanly, the "faith" we have left is just residual from the earlier teachings?

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    2. Re:This could not be news by BarryNorton · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Does this explain why religion is on the decline?
      That, and storing our grain better...
    3. Re:This could not be news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What evidence exactly do you have that religion is going down? People are just as irrational as ever. Islamic nations growing, Jewish state of Israel working to fulfil is 'manifest destiny' and Chistians electing Presidents and replacing federal judges are abound.

    4. Re:This could not be news by Gabrill · · Score: 1

      Did they factor out being a scorned minority?

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    5. Re:This could not be news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "In fact, most psychology studies on this topic show that religious individuals tend to have higher mental health and mental stability than non-religious individuals."

      That's a ridiculous claim. Provide a link to one or more studies that say this. I've read many psychological studies and I've never seen anything even remotely close to suggesting this. Religion specifically targets weak minded idiots because anyone with any form of intelligence has a much harder time believing so strongly in fairy tales. Most rational people see the various forms of religion as fairy tales and nothing more.

    6. Re:This could not be news by dajak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does this explain why religion is on the decline? As less people are infected, less display symptoms of schizophrenia, such as "feeling the divine presence", and "talking to God". Maybe true devotion in the middle ages was a neurochemical imbalance caused by a parasite, and now that humans are living more cleanly, the "faith" we have left is just residual from the earlier teachings?

      No! Are you suggesting that Christianity is caused by rats? Please be so kind as to inform us which country you reside in, so that we can burn down your embassy and demand an apology from your government.

    7. Re:This could not be news by TrappedByMyself · · Score: 1

      Does this explain why religion is on the decline? As less people are infected, less display symptoms of schizophrenia, such as "feeling the divine presence", and "talking to God". Maybe true devotion in the middle ages was a neurochemical imbalance caused by a parasite, and now that humans are living more cleanly, the "faith" we have left is just residual from the earlier teachings?

      I would disagree totally, the cleanest livers are mostly religious people. Scientologists are RABID when it comes to what crap goes into the body, and they aren't models of sanity. Mormons and Jews also have strict guidlines. The most well adjusted people I know are all very spiritual people. Me, I grew up mildly Catholic but never accepted this whole God thing, and I am totally insane.

      I would argue that the religious decline is cause by globalization. When you're stuck in a village and never meet different types of people, it's pretty easy to have everyone follow the same path. However, when people are merged, and communication is easy, the stuff breaks down. The 'elders' lose some clout when there are a dozen different elders running around with different messages. People who question their faith aren't repressed and now have means, such as the internet, of exploring other options. The options and diversity availible now lead to more doubt and open mindedness.

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    8. Re:This could not be news by Surt · · Score: 1

      What makes you think religion is on the decline? I'm pretty sure that there are more people in every major faith than ever before.

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    9. Re:This could not be news by Skreems · · Score: 1

      Without any sources, I'm not sure I believe you. In any case, whatever is true for the majority of the population, you can't say the girl in my sociology class who claims to regularly hear angelic choirs is completely stable.

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    10. Re:This could not be news by Skreems · · Score: 1

      That would be the good old US of A, my friend.

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    11. Re:This could not be news by Skreems · · Score: 1

      There's also more people on the planet than ever before. And since 400 years ago it was basically unthinkable to not go to church, and today it's seen as highly optional by over half the population of the first world... by percentage, I think I was right the first time.

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    12. Re:This could not be news by Skreems · · Score: 1

      I know religions encourage cleanliness, but people 400 years ago weren't rolling around in cat poop on purpose either, and they had close to 90% infection rate with this stuff. Point being, it can get into your system in ways you don't expect. And if even today, industrialized nations have infected population in the double digits, I'm guessing the source is such that Mormons and Jews are susceptible, no matter how clean they try to stay.

      I agree with you about globalization though. The first post was mostly joking, to see what people would say.

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    13. Re:This could not be news by killjoe · · Score: 1

      Are you sure religion is on the decline. In Europoe sure but in America and the middle east no. In both of those place religion is actually increasing.

      Last I heard over 70% of americans went to church and over 95% believed in god. I am sure those numbers are better then saudi arabia.

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    14. Re:This could not be news by njh · · Score: 1

      Cogito ergot some. I think I ate some ergot?

    15. Re:This could not be news by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Does this explain why religion is on the decline? As less people are infected, less display symptoms of schizophrenia, such as "feeling the divine presence", and "talking to God". Maybe true devotion in the middle ages was a neurochemical imbalance caused by a parasite, and now that humans are living more cleanly, the "faith" we have left is just residual from the earlier teachings?

      Religion is on a decline now? Not in my neighborhood. YES, religions have become much less strict and "kill the Other" nowadays, but the fact is that most people still believe in some kind of religion and try to either worship according to it or live by its principals.

    16. Re:This could not be news by springbox · · Score: 1

      If religion is caused by parasites then Resident Evil 4 is on to something big!

    17. Re:This could not be news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      When you accuse people of rioting and burning down embassies, why don't you start with those who actually do so? Do you doubt that claims of Islam being the result of disease-induced hallucinations would cause riots? People have been killed for smaller slights.

      I agree that it's funny for those who like to laugh at Christianity and don't have time to think about what they read.

    18. Re:This could not be news by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 1

      An interesting idea. A similar idea concerning the relation of humans to their gods was put forth by Julian Jaynes in The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, in which he argues that early humans were not "conscious" in the sense that we use the word today, and that they interpreted the commands of their own minds as "divine instructions", much as a schizoophrenic might do.

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    19. Re:This could not be news by dajak · · Score: 1

      Right. I just thought this was a good occasion to celebrate my right to make fun of the dominant religion here *without* causing riots. In fact, a Christian riot because of this joke would seriously spoil the irony and make the post insightful.

  15. ALIEN PARASITES ENSLAVE HUMANS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Or not. From the Wikipedia:

    Toxoplasma gondii is a species of parasitic protozoa that lives in cats and other warm-blooded animals and can cause the disease toxoplasmosis in humans. It belongs to the Apicomplexa and is the only known member of the genus Toxoplasma.

    and under "Toxoplasmosis"
    Toxoplasmosis is a parasitic disease caused by the parasite Toxoplasma gondii. It infects most animals and causes human parasitic diseases, but the primary host is the felid (cat) family. People usually get infected by eating raw or undercooked meat, or more rarely, by contact with cat faeces.

    At least one third of the world population may have contracted a toxoplasmosis infection in their lifetime but, after the acute infection has passed, the parasite rarely causes any symptoms in otherwise healthy adults. However, people with a weakened immune system are particularly susceptible, such as people infected with HIV. The parasite can cause encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) and neurologic diseases and can affect the heart, liver, and eyes (chorioretinitis).


    Much less interesting than TFA's speculation based on Toxoplasma's pathology in rats, but more credible.

    What's more, TFA does not give any indication about how they came up with the "half the human population" figure.

    Posted AC to avoid charges of Wikipedia-karma-whoring.

    1. Re:ALIEN PARASITES ENSLAVE HUMANS! by BarryNorton · · Score: 4, Informative
      "T. gondii may cause schizophrenia and may do so by producing or triggering the production of an hallucinogenic chemical" ('Genes, Germs, and Schizophrenia: An Evolutionary Perspective', Ledgerwood et al, Perspectives in Biology and Medicine 46(3):317-48, 2003).

      But, hey, why keep up with current research (at least via credible objective surveys in reputable journals) when you can just read Wikipedia?

    2. Re:ALIEN PARASITES ENSLAVE HUMANS! by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 1
      "But, hey, why keep up with current research (at least via credible objective surveys in reputable journals) when you can just read Wikipedia?"

      Especially reputable journals whose page title is "Inventions and Ideas from Science Fiction Books and Movies at Technovelgy.com:"

    3. Re:ALIEN PARASITES ENSLAVE HUMANS! by BarryNorton · · Score: 2, Informative
      Especially reputable journals whose page title is "Inventions and Ideas from Science Fiction Books and Movies at Technovelgy.com:"
      No, I was talking about:
      Perspectives in Biology and Medicine

      E-ISSN: 1529-8795 Print ISSN: 0031-5982

      Publisher: The Johns Hopkins University Press

      Perspectives in Biology and Medicine publishes articles of the highest scientific and literary merit on a wide range of biomedical topics such as neurobiology, biomedical ethics and history, genetics and evolution, and ecology. Founded in 1957, this interdisciplinary journal places subjects of current interest in medicine and biology in a context with humanistic, social, and scientific concerns. The editors encourage an informal, humanistic style that preserves the warmth, excitement, and color of the biological and medical sciences.

    4. Re:ALIEN PARASITES ENSLAVE HUMANS! by ph1ll · · Score: 1
      From TFA:

      Toxoplasma, will respond to drugs like haloperidol; the growth of the parasite stops. Haloperidol is an antipsychotic, used to treat schizophrenia.

      I'm no doctor, but haloperidol is used not just for schizophrenia but a number of conditions, including Tourette's (see Oliver Sack's excellent An Anthropologist on Mars where he uses it with a patient only for the patient to say he prefers his Tourette's as it often gives the patient excellent reflexes).

      To draw a conclusions from nothing more than the same drug being used to treat two different conditions seems like bad science to me...

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    5. Re:ALIEN PARASITES ENSLAVE HUMANS! by McGiraf · · Score: 1

      Hi, We are Ledgerwood et al and we wrote the wikipedia article.

    6. Re:ALIEN PARASITES ENSLAVE HUMANS! by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

      I have it from a reputable (to me at least) biologist and veterinarian that this has been blown out of proportion. This only affects people under very specific criteria (e.g. pregnant females). Clearly not "50%" of the earth's population is schizophrenice (although I sometimes wonder). Bottom line, unless you are regularly eating your cat's crap, you don't have any need to worry (and if you are, hopefully this announcement wasn't the first alarm about your behavoir).

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    7. Re:ALIEN PARASITES ENSLAVE HUMANS! by BarryNorton · · Score: 1
      I have it from a reputable (to me at least) biologist and veterinarian that this has been blown out of proportion. This only affects people under very specific criteria (e.g. pregnant females)
      You seem to be confusing proposed psychological effects of toxoplasma infection with the physical effects of toxoplasmosis. Even then it is not that this particularly affects pregnant women, but that if a woman is first infected during pregnancy then the parasite can cross the placental barrier and attack the foetus, which has few defenses (similarly toxoplasma infection can lead to toxoplasmosis in those infected with HIV).

      As for a link with schizophrenia, your argument makes about as much sense as: since 100% per cent of drivers aren't dead from traffic accidents, these can't be caused by motor vehicles!

  16. It all makes sense! by fizzyabbo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is the article implying that it's NOT normal for someone to seek out cat urine-marked areas in one's house???

  17. Finally makes sense by Belseth · · Score: 3, Insightful
    a parasite shown to alter the brain function of rats, inducing them into behavior that benefits the parasite but is suicidal for the rat.

    Look on the brightside. At least we know now what's driving the current administration.

    1. Re:Finally makes sense by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I don't know what's worse... this lame joke, or the moderators who gave it "Insightful".

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    2. Re:Finally makes sense by skoaldipper · · Score: 1

      I second that. "Insightful"? hardly. "Funny"? questionable. "Trite"? ding! ding! ding!

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    3. Re:Finally makes sense by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      It is my firm belief that the moderators are under parasite mind control.

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    4. Re:Finally makes sense by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      Look on the brightside. At least we know now what's driving the current administration.

      Toonces?

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    5. Re:Finally makes sense by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

      Look on the brightside. At least we know now what's driving the current administration.

      Pity for the infected?

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    6. Re:Finally makes sense by SaDan · · Score: 1
      It is my firm belief that the moderators are under parasite mind control.


      No shit... er... wait...
    7. Re:Finally makes sense by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      Nah. We do something _really_ stupid and die, the rats eat us, and it all goes around again.

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  18. the cats are behind it by arkhan_jg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since toxoplasma makes rats unafraid of or even like cat urine, I think it's all a diabolical scheme by the cats. I used to think cats only tolerated us until they could figure out how to operate a can-opener, but now I've realised its a much more cunning scheme - to make humans the slaves of cats!

    Old ladies are obviously the most affected after a lifetime of exposure, but its only a matter of time before we all become food suppliers and grooming slaves to our cat overlords. Just look what happens to people when you show them pictures of fluffy kittens, they go all gooey and unable to think straight - my girlfriend is a typical example, she defends her cats against any criticism, because they're so 'cute'.

    We must act now, while some of us can still see what the cats are up to. We must destroy the cat menace!

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    1. Re:the cats are behind it by Belseth · · Score: 2, Funny
      Since toxoplasma makes rats unafraid of or even like cat urine, I think it's all a diabolical scheme by the cats. I used to think cats only tolerated us until they could figure out how to operate a can-opener, but now I've realised its a much more cunning scheme - to make humans the slaves of cats! Old ladies are obviously the most affected after a lifetime of exposure, but its only a matter of time before we all become food suppliers and grooming slaves to our cat overlords. Just look what happens to people when you show them pictures of fluffy kittens, they go all gooey and unable to think straight - my girlfriend is a typical example, she defends her cats against any criticism, because they're so 'cute'. We must act now, while some of us can still see what the cats are up to. We must destroy the cat menace!

      Where have you been? We've been trying to tell you for years that cats are evil.

      Signed "Commander of Canine Resistence, Los Angeles Chapter",

      "Long live the revolution!"

    2. Re:the cats are behind it by Lisandro · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, it does make sense. For a dog, you're God and the universe revolves arround you. Cats wouldn't give two shits about you if you weren't the one feeding them - in fact, they always have this "leave me alone, dumbass" look on them after they're done with their meal. The ungrateful bastards :)

    3. Re:the cats are behind it by aamcf · · Score: 1

      but now I've realised its a much more cunning scheme - to make humans the slaves of cats!

      Nah, it must be something else. We've been their slaves for centuries.

    4. Re:the cats are behind it by BruceCage · · Score: 1

      If all of Slashdot starts collectively masturbating at the same time, it might not be too late! Only god can put an end to this madness!

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    5. Re:the cats are behind it by tabby · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry Mr Bond but you are too late. ha ha ha ha ha *hack*cough* furball...
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/jamesbond/i mages/cat.jpg

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    6. Re:the cats are behind it by miro+f · · Score: 1

      you're right! we must act at once to stop the cat mena--

      *click*

      awwwwwww... how cute and fluffy

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    7. Re:the cats are behind it by bdijkstra · · Score: 1

      Where have you been? We've been trying to tell you for years that cats are evil.

      Signed "Commander of Canine Resistence, Los Angeles Chapter",

      "Long live the revolution!"

      This, of course, is all part of the masterplan meticulously designed to distract our attention away from our mighty overlords, the mice. So stop this propousterous resistance movement and go prove your race's worth.

    8. Re:the cats are behind it by Yaotzin · · Score: 1

      How could anyone suspect the cute fluffy kittens?

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    9. Re:the cats are behind it by armagost · · Score: 1

      cat scratch fever

    10. Re:the cats are behind it by 2008 · · Score: 1

      Toxoplasma makes rats like cat urine? Oh my god, I like cat urine!

      I hope my doctor will see me on a Sunday...

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    11. Re:the cats are behind it by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1
      "Don't you let that cat near a baby! Cat'll suck the bwef right outta the baby!"

      (actual quote from a certain woman in Philadelphia, regarding an actual cat and an actual baby... )

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    12. Re:the cats are behind it by r00t · · Score: 1

      They do give two shits about me. Actually, I got more than just two shits. I got a whole yard full of shit.

    13. Re:the cats are behind it by fusion9290991 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the dogs are the real overlords.

      Check out a story by Eric Russell (ca 1950) called "Into your tent I'll creep".
      http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue205/books2.html

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    14. Re:the cats are behind it by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      I realized the fundamental difference between cat people and the rest of us when listening to my girlfriend talk about her cat with her mother.

      Normal person: "my cat leaves hair all over my clothes, every time I try and read a newspaper the cat comes over and sits right where I'm trying to read, and it wakes me up in the middle of the night meowing because it's forgotten where its foodbowl is. Stupid cat."

      Cat person: "my cat leaves hair all over my clothes, every time I try and read a newspaper the cat comes over and sits right where I'm trying to read, and it wakes me up in the middle of the night meowing because it's forgotten where its foodbowl is. Isn't that CUUUUUUUUTE?"

      I'm not joking: she said the second sentence more or less word-for-word. That's when I started reading more about cognitive dissonance and other pathologic coping strategies.

      And I still think cats are stupid.

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  19. Sounds oddly familiar by CRCulver · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So if this parasite had an effect on the minds of humans, you could almost say that we were puppets and they puppet-masters. With this, and the fact that Slashdotters seem to be increasingly turning to libertarianism, the future looks oddly Heinlein-esque.

    1. Re:Sounds oddly familiar by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Thanks for stealing that point from the article, even the summary mentions it.

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  20. Don't give Sony-BMG ideas! by ettlz · · Score: 5, Funny

    The term "bio-rootkit" is not one I wish to see in common usage!

    1. Re:Don't give Sony-BMG ideas! by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      I don't know. A bio-rootkit sounds pretty interesting to me. Eh? Eh?

    2. Re:Don't give Sony-BMG ideas! by zlogic · · Score: 1

      Most people don't know what a bio-rootkit is, so why should they care?

    3. Re:Don't give Sony-BMG ideas! by ettlz · · Score: 1
      I don't know. A bio-rootkit sounds pretty interesting to me. Eh? Eh?

      Argh! They got to you, too!

    4. Re:Don't give Sony-BMG ideas! by ivan+kk · · Score: 1

      $sys$fat.

    5. Re:Don't give Sony-BMG ideas! by Neoncow · · Score: 1

      $sys$Don't $sys$worry. $sys$You $sys$won't $sys$see $sys$it.

  21. Re:Nothing to see here... by ArtfulDodger75 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not toxoplasma, it's midi-chlorians! Lucas sucks.

  22. And... by Kaenneth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And don't forget those worms in Africa the tunnel through living human flesh, causing burning pain to make the host seek water for relief; only to continue it's life cycle. I heard recently that a type of virus may be linked to obesity; like the bactiria linked with ulcers.

    However, cause and effect may be reversed; perhaps the virus likes fatty foods (fat humans); and perhaps that bactiria prefers the chemical balance in a bleeding stomach. But this is good research; seeing that elimiating the parasite from the rats changes behavior.

    But, for the ultimate in behavior changing infections, you only have to look at your own mouth. Language. and the other aspects of human "culture"... "culture" is an interesting word, in that it can refer to fashionable art; or parasitical organisms.

    Really, humans are not much more than hosts for self replicating information. everything from the English language to Hula Hoops. I bet if you imagine living forever inside a machine; you probably think of your 'mind' being preserved; instead of a machine that pumps fluids through a mindless body (insert Republican joke here)

    All that being a Funny, Japanese-Speaking, Mozart-loving, Cat-loving, Slashdot-reading fellow is, is a combinatation of contaigous memes.

    1. Re:And... by kamapuaa · · Score: 1
      Really, humans are not much more than hosts for self replicating information...All that being a Funny, Japanese-Speaking, Mozart-loving, Cat-loving, Slashdot-reading fellow is, is a combinatation of contaigous memes.

      Bringing up "Memes" as a useful model of how the world works is so 1990s. Get with the times.

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    2. Re:And... by Rich0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      perhaps that bactiria [sic] prefers the chemical balance in a bleeding stomach

      I believe that h. pylori excretes urease which breaks urea (found naturally in tissues as a byproduct of metabolism) down into ammonia. Ammonia is much more basic than urea, and as a result it reacts with stomach acid to create a more neutral pH, which is better for the organism. Ammonia is also very toxic, which is why the body converts it to urea in the first place (the direct product of metabolism is ammonia, and it is quickly converted to urea to detoxify it before being sent to the kidneys - later it gets partially converted to uric acid which is even less toxic and also requires less water to store/flush (this is what makes bird droppings white - birds do this to the extreme to avoid carrying lots of water in their urine as dead weight when flying)). So, the ammonia is the direct cause of the tissue damage that leads to an ulcer.

      The bacteria doesn't really care about blood/pain/holes in stomach - it just wants a break from all that HCl floating around. As long as it nestles in the folds of the tissue it can create a locally moderate environment to grow in.

      So, in this case the disease is more a side-effect than a direct goal of the bacteria.

      On the other hand, if you look at something like cholera toxin that is something really nasty. Cholera spreads from feces, and its toxin basically makes you run like a faucet (even today it can be quite fatal if not caught early enough - IVs can't fill you up faster than you spill out).

      However, you are dead-on that many times disease organisms have the goal of modifying host behavior to encourage spread.

    3. Re:And... by kestasjk · · Score: 1

      Humour isn't a meme, though you might consider a certain style of comedy a meme, just like the ability to speak a language isn't a meme, though a language itself is.

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    4. Re:And... by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Examples of memes are... "In soviet russia, YOU!" and "But does it run Linux?" or "64kb should be enough for anyone!" (okay, maybe that's just a bad quote).

      Now if only Slashdot could be introduced to HUMOUR memes.

    5. Re:And... by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      perhaps that bactiria prefers the chemical balance in a bleeding stomach.

      Sure, except that when you kill the bacteria, the ulcers go away. If I recall correctly, doctors found that it's a bacteria by prescribing antibiotics to patients with ulcers.

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    6. Re:And... by notnAP · · Score: 1

      pumps fluids through a mindless body (insert Republican joke here)
      I think you meant to say... pumps fluids through a mindless body (insert Republican here)

    7. Re:And... by bs7rphb · · Score: 1

      you only have to look at your own mouth

      Easy for you to say.

  23. The common infection route is cat poo by nietsch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is some evidence that the parasite is manipulating his intemediate host's(rodents) behaviour to end up in the final host: cats. Cat droppings spread it again to rodents nearby. This mechanism has two species that benefit from it (the parasite and the cat), so it is likely this interaction reinforces itself.

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    1. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by Vellmont · · Score: 1

      Ahh.. So that explains why cat people tend to be a little bit nuts ;)

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    2. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      Ahh.. So that explains why cat people tend to be a little bit nuts ;)
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      I'm not a cat person myself, but I suspect most cat people would feel a little put out that someone with a sig like yours could call them nuts.

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      "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
    3. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      I'm not a cat person myself, but I suspect most cat people would feel a little put out that someone with a sig like yours could call them nuts.

      You may not be a cat person, but apparently you're someone that has no sense of humor, and takes everything literally.

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    4. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      apparently you're someone that has no sense of humor, and takes everything literally

      Hiya pot, I'm kettle. Nice to meet ya...

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    5. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Hiya pot, I'm kettle. Nice to meet ya...


      Riiight. Why is it every time someone says something completely idiotic, the defense is "dummy.. you thought I was serious? It was a joke!"? You sir, are a complete fool, and cries of "it was a joke.. haha" only make you look stupider.

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    6. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by iamhassi · · Score: 1
      what about cries of "stop hitting me that hurts!"

      would that make him look smarter? :-/

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    7. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      Why is it every time someone says something completely idiotic, the defense is "dummy.. you thought I was serious? It was a joke!"?

      Um, maybe because it really was a joke, and some of us readers actually got it, and you didn't? And then you started trying to cover for yourself by calling names, PLUS you accused the other poster of calling names first (With your dummy paraphrase) when he actually didn't? Pot, meet Asperger's syndrome!

      More seriously, you appear to be a totally humorless, hyper-defensive and somewhat paranoid individual (witness you accusing the other poster of what you yourself were about to do, that they had not) who threatens violence every post in his sig. You might want to work on all that. Most seriously of all, GET PROFESSIONAL HELP!!!!

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    8. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by ILikeRed · · Score: 1

      Puts new meaning in "Crazy cat lady", doesn't it?

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    9. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Um, maybe because it really was a joke, and some of us readers actually got it, and you didn't?

      Or maybe it wasn't a joke at all. There's no context for a joke here, it wasn't even funny. Assuming it was a joke is just plain wrong.

      PLUS you accused the other poster of calling names first (With your dummy paraphrase)

      See.. that's the thing about a paraphrase, it's not supposed to actually be a quote. If you see it that way, then you're really missing the point.

      I'm glad to see you're not making assumptions about people based on a heated exchange on slashdot. It's also interesting to see that you can't seem to understand that a sig isn't necessarily supposed to be taken literally (despite my original protest against ozmanwhatever). Why are you even getting into this exchange anyway? Are you just a troll looking for food, some kind of crusader, or just a cat person that's offended by being accused of being a little nutty?

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    10. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by killjoe · · Score: 1

      I'll jump in here too.

      I think there is something wrong with you. I think there is something wrong with anybody who advocates murdering people especially if the reason for the murder is the fact they simply disagree with you.

      You want to murder activists. OK. But what do you hope to gain by advertising that fact? Do you think it makes you cool or something? Do you run around in some sort of a weird freeper crowd that fantasicises it could murder all activists or other people that they deem unworthy?

      Seriously, there is something wrong with you. You need to get help. There is no rational or sane reason for advocating the murder of people in your signature. It's supposed to be a place for a pithy or a humerous sentence. There is nothing humerous about telling the world you want to kill people.

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    11. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by Vellmont · · Score: 1

      Wow. It must be literalists day on slashdot.

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    12. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by Vellmont · · Score: 1

      This from a guy named "killjoe". Do you want to murder people named joe? Is there something "cool" about advocating killing people named joe? Christ. I think sundays must be "extra stupid day" on slashdot.

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    13. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by njh · · Score: 1

      Vellmont (569020) writes: the defense is "dummy.. you thought I was serious? It was a joke!"?

      But you used that defence first:

        apparently you're someone that has no sense of humor, and takes everything literally.

      I also read your sig and thought 'another gun nut'.

    14. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by killjoe · · Score: 1

      It's a play on words. Kill Bill, Kill Joe. Killjoe is also a play on the word killjoy.

      It looks like it flew over your head though.

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    15. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by killjoe · · Score: 1

      "Wow. It must be literalists day on slashdot."

      So explain it to me figuritively.

      I get it, you hate activists but where does the reaching for the gun part mean if it doesn't mean that you want to murder people.

      Actually a better question might be. What to do envision feeling when you have gunned down an activist? Do you imagine yourself with a hard on looking down the body of the fresh kill? Do you envision your freeper friends cheering you on? Do you envision getting a blowjob when you get home and tell your partner of your conquest?

      I am honestly curious as to how a mind like yours works.

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    16. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by Vellmont · · Score: 1

      Either you're a troll, or you're one of the stupidest people I've ever encountered.

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    17. Re:The common infection route is cat poo by killjoe · · Score: 1

      At least I don't have psycho sexual fantasies of murder.

      You need help dude, seriously.

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  24. Crazy cat lady by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh my god, this is a scientific explaination for the crazy cat lady phenomenon... I'm serious RTFA!!!

    1. Re:Crazy cat lady by Mistshadow2k4 · · Score: 1

      I always thought it had something to do with being compassionate and tender-hearted. Some people just can't stand the thought of animals suffering in any way, whether by being out in the cold or going hungry, because they consider them to be more innocent than humans (a typical anti-social trait, in fact).

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    2. Re:Crazy cat lady by frankmu · · Score: 1

      there is a strong corelation between cats and schizophrenia. toxo may explain this.

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    3. Re:Crazy cat lady by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 1

      That would be one fine theory if "Crazy Cat Ladies" didn't live with scores of malnourished cats in filthy, feces-laden homes.

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  25. More discussion of toxoplasma by rdwald · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cecil Adams wrote a article discussing toxoplama's effect on birth defects and schizophrenia, including the possibility that toxoplasma floods the human brain with LSD.

  26. This is not a dupe by Ambush · · Score: 4, Funny

    C'mon guys, this isn't a duplicate story. This one is referring to the other half of the population. The truth is that we're all infected. ;-)

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  27. All above posts are FUD by eclectro · · Score: 4, Funny

    Toxoplasma is actually the eggs for body thetans. If you do not want to believe this, read this link

    The earth is a battlefield, my friend. I'm going to get audited errrr tested.

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  28. It comes from cat shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    More info here: Parasite infection from cat shit linked to schizophrenia.

    A citation from the article: T. gondii cyst infection appeared to decrease novelty seeking behaviors and reduce psycho-motor intelligence in men.

  29. Mind Control by Frankie70 · · Score: 1

    I for one have ALREADY welcomed our parasitic overlords.

    It's them parasites that made you do it in the first place.

  30. SO uh... by dw604 · · Score: 1

    How do I kill the parasites controlling me?

    1. Re:SO uh... by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1
      From the article:

      Human cells raised in petri dishes, and infected with Toxoplasma, will respond to drugs like haloperidol; the growth of the parasite stops. Haloperidol is an antipsychotic, used to treat schizophrenia.

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    2. Re:SO uh... by skoaldipper · · Score: 1

      That seems kind of like harsh measures, doesn't it? I mean, c'mon. He didn't ask you, " How do we kill the parasites controlling us?

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  31. woah by Jesus+IS+the+Devil · · Score: 4, Funny

    For a minute there, I thought the article was talking about women...

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  32. The Parasitic World Cup! by Chilluhm · · Score: 1

    Go Humans!!!

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  33. Score one for the cat haters by eamonman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Most women are cat lovers.
    Most men will say most women are schizo.
    The prosecution rests your honor. ;)

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  34. Ok but..? by Hamster+Of+Death · · Score: 1

    How does one tell if they are infected?

    1. Re:Ok but..? by Chilluhm · · Score: 1
      RTFA!

      Do you have a strange attraction to cat piss?

      If yes, then you're a Pyscho.

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    2. Re:Ok but..? by Hamster+Of+Death · · Score: 1

      I read the article, I hate cats so does that mean I'm immune? =)

    3. Re:Ok but..? by Ian_FBNS · · Score: 1

      Show them some cartoons of Muhammud... :D

      It's usually pretty obvious from that point.

    4. Re:Ok but..? by skoaldipper · · Score: 1

      Yes. In fact, the benign ruffruffus bacterium we inhale from our canine's shedding fur, not only fights off these pussy parasites, but is what also drives us men to lie on the couch and scratch ourselves.

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  35. Move along by LiquidEdge · · Score: 2, Funny

    These aren't the droids we're looking for.

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  36. Gamers should be worried by SickLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

    Toxoplasma has been linked to slowed reaction times in humans.

    SLM

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  37. No.....Worries by FraggedSquid · · Score: 1

    I....dont....think....this....is....a....problem.. ..I....feel....fine and....everying....is....right....with....the....w orld.

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  38. Voluntary mind control? by Dexter77 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What makes mind control interesting, that is not usually thought of, is awareness of it. Since our brain is controlling everything we do, altering its functioning would propably go unnoticed. In movies characters usually try to fight againts mind control and even in everyday thoughts we imagine mind control to be something that is againts our will. When you think of it a bit further, you might notice that what mind control actually does, is make our emotions balanced in the way that we actually want to do what it wants us to do. As stated in the article, rats repeatedly did things againts logical behaviour. Now, if you think how many of your actions is based on logic and how many on emotions, you might be able to guess my point.

    But then again, this is just my theory. I hope your can prove it wrong. Only variable that would definately prove it wrong, would be existence of a soul. It would provide us something that can't be affected by change of chemical balance in brain. But more likely is that each and every one of us is under some kind of mind control. Everything affects our emotions, from food to movies, regardless of if it resides physically in our brain or affects through our senses.

    1. Re:Voluntary mind control? by lmlloyd · · Score: 1

      It is an interesting theory. Honestly, however, I think susceptibility to 'mind control' if anything would be a function of how introspective, and how prone to procrastination the person in question is. If you have a very decisive person who is accustom to making split-second decisions, then acting on them, I imagine they would be fairly susceptible to the sort of manipulation you posit. On the other hand, a person prone to 'over-analyzing' situations, and slow to take action, would most likely be more immune.

      If you are the sort of person who spends hours, days, or even weeks weighing all your options before taking any action, I can't imagine simple emotional weighting being enough to sway your decision. Of course I can't imagine you getting much done either.

    2. Re:Voluntary mind control? by ebuck · · Score: 1

      The side effect that someone notices just indicates that it's mind control "beta".

    3. Re:Voluntary mind control? by drgonzo59 · · Score: 1
      I think you are on to something. I wish I can enlighten my sorry white trash neighbours about this. Thye sit on the porch all day, smoke pot, drink, collect their welfare check that we all pay for and run a methlab. As far as evolution goes:

      T.gondii - 1
      H.Sapiens - 0

  39. 50% infection rate worldwide, much less in the US by Vellmont · · Score: 1

    There's varying evidence, but the infection rate in the US is somewhere around 23% according to a report by the cdc. The infection rate also appears to be dropping.

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  40. Thank you, Slashdot editors by Council · · Score: 4, Funny

    Every day, I wake up. I get a drink and read the paper, I check my blog feed, and then I look at Slashdot. Across the board I see headlines like "Microsoft hires person X" and "GM cuts this and that" and "Drought in Borneo" and "Economic growth at risk". Or even the supreme dullness indicator, the dreaded "trade summit".

    Suffice it to say I've been waiting to see a headline like "brain-controlling parasites control 50% of the human population" for a long time. Thank you, Slashdot editors.

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    1. Re:Thank you, Slashdot editors by engagebot · · Score: 1

      Honestly, that's the funniest post I've read in a long time.

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  41. So where did the other 27.001% come from... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... who voted for Bush?

  42. I for one.... by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    I for one, welcome our Toxoplasmic Underlords!

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  43. Half by Bizzeh · · Score: 1

    how do they know its half?

    1. Re:Half by miro+f · · Score: 1

      because the toxoplasmas in their brains told them so

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  44. Adrenaline Junkies by Assaulted_Peanut · · Score: 1

    If the net result is to increase the chance of being eaten, this explains Steve Irwin!

    Seriously though, it'd be interesting to see if there's statistical evidence that Toxoplasma is more common in adrenaline junkies than stay-at-home types.

  45. Eerie! Look what toxoplasma did to this man!!! by Juiblex · · Score: 1

    This is dyabolic!

    http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/nbb421/st udent2003/epl8/Blank%20Page%202.htm

    Although the article don't explicitly says he was infected with Toxoplasma, I am pretty sure this is the cause, because the man worshipped cats, and his late paintings are rather lysergic (Toxoplasma is known to produce LSD)!

    1. Re:Eerie! Look what toxoplasma did to this man!!! by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      From the link:

      Until finally they ceased to resemble cats at all

      That last picture looked just like a cat...after playing on a freeway.

      http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/nbb421/st udent2003/epl8/Blank%20Page%202_files/image020.jpg

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  46. There's two ways to deal with a "challenge" by RedLaggedTeut · · Score: 1

    Well, there are two ways to deal with a "challenge" or imbalance such as toxoplasma:
    try to avoid it to stay safe, or live with it and adapt over the generations.

    So my guess is there are a people who actually are "reliant" on toxoplasma to lift their spirits.

    But who am I to say for sure, we had cats.

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  47. Read the Article -- this is very profound by sgent · · Score: 3, Insightful
    There is now at least more than a casual link between Toxoplasm and Schizophrenia.

    Stop to think about that for a second.

    This has profound implications far beyond the childish and disappointing messages listed above.

    Haldol and an antimicrobial have the same effect on Toxoplasm infected human tissue. Even the implcations in this are staggering -- regardless of whether this pans out or not. Million's of people worldwide could be saved a tortous life, higher suicide rates, due to a pathogenic cause (and cure) of a mental illness. Don't dismiss that mother's with this are more likely to have kids that develop schizophrenia.

    An australian recently won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for discovering that a bacteria was responsible for the majority of stomach ulcers. What used to be a life long and potential dangerous disease is now cured with weeklong course of antibiotics.

    This facinating discovery deserves more respect than it has gotten on slashdot.

  48. This really explains everything! by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    This really explains everything about the whole world!

    But what worries me is which 50% are the good guys and which are the bad?
    Are the bad guys normal?
    Are the good guys infected?
    Is my wife infected?
    How about my mistress?
    What kind of litmus test is there to find out?
    Is paranoia a symptom of the infection?
    How can I kill them?
    Will they infect me again?
    Is there an antidote?
    How about immunization???

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  49. So that must be why by gimione · · Score: 1

    the file cabinet started harassing me again!

  50. Better yet.. by damneinstien · · Score: 2, Funny

    All your base ... nah..
    Half your heads are belong to them.

  51. x 2.65 probability of traffic accidents by Ned_kelly · · Score: 2, Informative

    Half the worlds population is infected with a mind controlling parasite which causes a 2.65 times increase in traffic accidents. This could be one of the most underestimated killers on the planet.

    See the results of the study here:

    http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2334/2/11

    "Increased risk of traffic accidents in subjects with latent toxoplasmosis: a retrospective case-control study

    Human latent toxoplasmosis leads to prolongation of reaction times [11] and changes in personality profiles [12,13]. These changes are probably side effects either of the rodent-aimed manipulative activity of Toxoplasma or of some pathogenic activity of the parasites in the brain. The changes cannot influence the risk of predation in modern humans; nevertheless, prolongation of reaction times could increase the risk of other incidents such as traffic accidents. If this is true then the prevalence of toxoplasmosis in participants in traffic accidents should be higher than in the general population living in the same area.

    Here we report the results of retrospective case-control study that compares the seroprevalence of toxoplasmosis in persons injured in traffic accidents with the seroprevalence of toxoplasmosis in general population living in the same area. ....

    The value of the odds ratio (OR) suggests that subjects with latent toxoplasmosis had a 2.65 (C.I.95= 1.76-4.01) times higher risk of a traffic accident than the toxoplasmosis-negative subjects. "

  52. Well... by Snooper_1989 · · Score: 1, Funny

    This may actually explain George Bush.

  53. From "Where Science Meets Fiction" by cgenman · · Score: 1

    (This Science Fiction in the News story used with permission from Technovelgy.com - where science meets fiction.)

    That's not to say that the article has no merit, or that we shouldn't be aware of the foreign bodies inside of ourselves. But take it with a grain of salt.

    1. Re:From "Where Science Meets Fiction" by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that tripped me up too but I suppose that refers to the preceeding paragraph about mind controlling parasites in SciFi since the article does include off-site links relating to the subject.

      And why doesn't it mention Resident Evil 4?

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  54. Half infected? by QuaintRealist · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Before we get too carried away, note that the numbers indicate the number of people with the antibodies to toxoplasma gondii, not the number of people with active infection. Antibodies just mean you have been infected at some point in your life - and the mental status changes seem to be primarily in those infected as infants or born to infected mothers. This connects well with the known etiology of toxoplasmosis, and is why the MD tells your pregnant wife/girlfriend/mom to stay away from cats.

    Still, it is really interesting how many diseases have been found recently to be of infectious etiology - ulcers (no, it's not the pizza), many forms of heart disease, and now possibly some forms of schizophrenia. Makes prevention at least plausible...

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    1. Re:Half infected? by pnagel · · Score: 2, Informative

      But toxoplasmosa gondii is able to hide from the immune system, usually in cysts in the muscles or the brain. So the number of people with antibodies to it is roughly the number of people who have it hidden away in their bodies.

      Apparently toxoplasmosa is only a danger for pregnant women if they get their *first* ever infection while pregnant, during the last trimester.

      And you can get it from unwashed veggies and undercooked meat (see the first paragraph about toxoplasmosa hiding away in muscle).

    2. Re:Half infected? by porcupine8 · · Score: 4, Informative
      This connects well with the known etiology of toxoplasmosis, and is why the MD tells your pregnant wife/girlfriend/mom to stay away from cats.

      Specifically, cat poop. Sorry, it may sound like nit-picking to you, but you should see the number of cats who wind up in shelters because their owner got pregnant. Pregnant women do NOT need to stay away from cats - they just need to stay away from the litter box. They shouldn't clean it, and should avoid inhaling dust from it. If your cat has something wrong with it and can't clean its bum properly, someone (who's not pregnant) should be keeping it clean for them. Only single pregnant women with no one to take care of this stuff for them might need to actually rehome their cats - and they can usually wear gloves and a surgical mask when cleaning the litterbox.

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    3. Re:Half infected? by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Or just live where you can have a indoor/outdoor cat who doesn't grok a litter box... 2 cats, no litter boxes, no smell, no "accidents".

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    4. Re:Half infected? by Angostura · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But of course, your neighbours' kids can't play in their gardens without getting cat shit all over their hands. ... 2 kids, one garden, spent a lot of time clearing up shot out of the vegetable patch until I bought an ultrasonic cat scarer.

    5. Re:Half infected? by scatterbrained · · Score: 1

      Toxoplasmosis is just a scam invented by women to keep
      from having to scoop cat crap :-) I figure I've had to
      scoop about 8 years worth of cat feces (2 cats x 4 years)
      because of it.

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    6. Re:Half infected? by drgonzo59 · · Score: 1

      It is too bad for the cats, I agree. But isn't it still worth to take the precaution? I am sorry but if there is a very small chance that my cat would have diarrhea from chewing some stuff outside or somehow decides to not poop in the litter box but on the carpet, or decides to sit its fuzzy but not perfectly clean butt on the table where we eat, I think it is worth it to give it away. I love cats but I also don't anything to happen to my child, sorry.

  55. Head Crabs by r0d3nt · · Score: 1

    When I first read the title of this article, I misread it as "Mind Control Parasites in Half-Life"...

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  56. Not so fast by Wills · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't be so rabidly macho skeptical regarding negative effects of toxoplasma and cats. The toxoplasma gondii parasite is not a one-off infection event relevant only to pregnant women catching it. Once infected, you are infected for the rest of your life because our bodies are unable to get rid of the parasite, remaining in a state of latent toxoplasmosis. There is published, peer-reviewed evidence that people with latent toxoplasmosis have up to 5% slower reaction times and are more likely to suffer traffic accidents.

  57. Bacteria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    In other news: bacteria find that they are being used for slave labor in the Human digestive system. That same day they started protesting, forcing the human to call in sick for a day and flush many of the protesters down the toilet.

  58. Mind Control Parasites in Half of All "Humans" by layer3switch · · Score: 1

    Ah... but how do you know "all humans" are "humans"?! hmmm

    Sci-fi geeks, talk among yourselves... Now.

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  59. Toxopasmosis makes women more sexually friendly:-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    As it turns out the Times reported on this matter some time ago (unfortunately they have taken down the article...however
    it reported the work of Jaroslav Flegr of Charles University Prague...
    From the report in the times:
    [Infected] women ... appear to exhibit the "sex kitten" effect, becoming less trustworthy, more desirable, fun-loving and possibly more promiscuous. ... [They] spent more money on clothes and were consistently rated as more attractive. ... By contrast, the infected men appeared to suffer from the "alley cat" effect: becoming less well groomed undesirable loners who were more willing to fight. They were more likely to be suspicious and jealous. "They tended to dislike following rules," Flegr said.
    Check this for more info.

  60. Cat owners by stewwy · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this is why cat owners defend their right for their cat to crap all over one's lawn, whilst at the same time throwing a hissy fit if your dog so much as looks at their's (declaration of interest here: my neigbour's a cat lover and threw one this morning, a fit not her cat. I've noticed logic does not have a great influence on her life)

  61. Toxoplasmosis -- 30,000 US deaths per year by Ned_kelly · · Score: 1

    Traffic fatalities in the US ---> 42,000 per year.

    Around 30,000 of these deaths could be attributable to the risk seeking behaviour and lower reaction times caused by Toxoplasmosis. This would make it as dangerous as the flu virus and one of the biggest killers in the US.

  62. That explains by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1

    That explains the results of the special election in California and the last two presidential elections.

    1. Re:That explains by HanzoSpam · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That explains the results of the special election in California and the last two presidential elections.

      It sure does! From the The Guardian article someone posted earlier in the thread:
      Furthermore, given that at least a third of Brits are already unwitting carriers (rising to about 80% in France and Germany), the effects are clearly less pronounced than some press reports earlier this week may have led you to believe.

      Apparently, the countries that have the higher rates of infection tend towards more socialistic governments.

      It's good to know California and the rest of the US are recovering from the infection!
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    2. Re:That explains by Ilex · · Score: 1

      Also explains why Bush hears voices in his head telling him to invade Iraq.

  63. Multiple answers by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

    Only if you choose to stand too close to Barbra Streisand when she has a cold.

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  64. another example by tverbeek · · Score: 1
    Still not sure that parasites can manipulate the behavior of host organisms? Consider these other cases:

    • Female humans, when infected by a single-celled organisms known as spermatazoa, have been known to gorge themselves on ice cream and pickles, and engage in all sorts of other bizarre behavior, all to allow the parasite to develop into an organism capable of surviving outside the host (half of which carry spermatazoa themselves).
    • Individuals infected by an as-yet-unidentified parasite exhibit a syndrome known as Boogie Fever, which causes them to "boogie down", a rhythmic but erratic flailing of the arms and legs. Doing so somehow enables the parasite to spread to other hosts, as people in proximity to the first host will often proceed to "boogie down" as well.
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  65. Ohhhh... by Seta · · Score: 1

    ...anyone up for a game of "The Sims"? *snicker*

  66. Allergy Theory by simul · · Score: 2, Funny

    My guess is that people who are allergic to cats are, most likely, NOT infected.

    Ever notice how people who are allergic to cats are .... well, different, from the rest of us? As if they don't fit in to the system. ... ...

  67. Now for something different? by ursabear · · Score: 1

    You mean now I need tin foil for the inside of my head?

    But seriously folks (I'm here all week) the human body is a work of art and a true miracle. Our bodies constantly fight off lots of things that are potentially bad voodoo. We have so many parasitic and bacterial symbionic organisms, it's a wonder that we do so well. It's not surprising that we have organisms that live only in our eyebrows and those that live only in our intestines.

    I'm not surprised to find that we have such an organism.

  68. Who is sane then? by bluenawab · · Score: 1

    If more than half the people have already been infected, how do we decide who is actually infected then?!!! Isn't it better to be infected now, just so that one can actually function in the society? Man such a scheme would be so insidious... reminds me of a fable - An evil witch poisons the well in Happy kingdom to get back at the Good King when he is out on a hunting trip... All the people in the happy kingdom go mad after they drink the poisoned water. What does the king do on his return? He takes a drink from the same well just to be able to rule again!

  69. M0 by bunnyman · · Score: 1

    A while back, I was reading a site called "The Programmer's Stone." It is a site to recapture, explore and celebrate the Art of Computer Programming.

    It turned out that The Programmer's Stone is only chapter 0 in a larger site, Reciprocality.org. Chapter 1 is about a human parasite they call M0.

    "M0 is a previously unsuspected public health problem. It is ancient and vast, and only fragments of information regarding its origins and the psychological state of humans prior to its instantiation have passed down to us. It consists of a neurochemical effect induced by boring social conditions that people get addicted to like some athletes get addicted to their own adrenaline and end up B. A. S. E. jumping."

    The other chapters, well, see for yourselves . . .

  70. Does this explain our seretary? by eheldreth · · Score: 1

    She must have 30 or 40 cats and she spends $500 or $600 dollers a month on vet bills. I finaly understand.

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  71. Re:Uh oh by skoaldipper · · Score: 1

    ...not until your stomach rumbles and are inexplicably drawn to drink some.

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  72. That explains my sudden thirst for cat pee by raddan · · Score: 1

    Please don't zap me with a cattle prod.

  73. KHAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!! by m93 · · Score: 2, Funny


    Let me introduce you to Ceti Alpha V's only remaining indigenous life form; what do you think? They've killed twenty of my people, including my beloved wife. Oh, not all at once and not instantly, to be sure. Their young enter through the ears and wrap themselves around the cerebral cortex. This has the effect of rendering the victim extremely susceptible to suggestion. Later, as they grow, follows madness, paralysis -- and death. These are pets, of course -- not quite domesticated.
    That's better! Now: tell me why you are here -- and tell me where I may find James Kirk.

    1. Re:KHAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!! by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      There was an original episode with some big dinner plate sized gooey sort of things that dropped off the ceiling of buildings on some planet and infected Spock, making him crazy. I don't remember if the episode was titled after Heinlein's puppet masters or not

  74. The theology of this comment is.... by usurper_ii · · Score: 1

    A dog thinks, you feed me...you must be god.

    A cat thinks, you feed me...I must be a god.

    Usurper_ii

  75. Toxoplasma should take a number by Matey-O · · Score: 1

    There's a buncha OTHER symbiotes that tag along for your ride. And I dunno bout you, but when my gut flora gets unhappy, _I_ get unhappy, and those feelings of explosive decompressions aren't good for MY health either.

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  76. where do these parasites originate from?? by 3seas · · Score: 1

    ... we know where they go.... polticians, war mongers, power mongers, criminals, Bush, etc...

    Now we know why Bush is pro religion/fait and so anti-science....

    A new twist to shrodingers cat.... huh?

    war on terrorism..... to be changed to inocculation against toxoplasma

    But whats the association between cats and people? does half the population have cats?

    Is this why there is a warning regarding pregant women and cat feces in the home?

  77. George Lucas was right, sort of by ezdude · · Score: 1

    So, I guess it is toxoplasma, not midichlorians, that are responsible for "The Force." And here I was all these years thinking that was such a lame explanation!

  78. Clintoplasma antibodies detected by 6800 · · Score: 1

    No but the clintoplasma antibodies recently found in majority are beleaved to be the all thats left of the parasites after a dose of kerry powder.

  79. Oh great! by Kylere · · Score: 1

    "Don't you judge me Earl!" Yet another excuse for the fat, lame, lazy, stupid, apathetic, and underemployeed NASCAR fans.

  80. More cute kittens... by antdude · · Score: 1

    See Cute Overload. It's hard to resist!! ARGH!

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  81. Known effects by MochaMan · · Score: 1

    So what affect does it have on humans?

    Recent studies have suggested that symptoms include marked increases in spelling and grammatical errors, citing confusion of near-homonyms in particular.

  82. Half the Population by paullyjunge · · Score: 1

    I bet this is why the phrase, "Hey guys, watch me do this..." always ends in tragedy. Silly frat boys.

  83. It's simple by WaR.KiN · · Score: 1

    There are two kinds of people in the world. There are those who have the parasite, and there ware those who don't.

  84. sundry toxo data by DrRobin · · Score: 1

    Just to expand and clarify a bit:
    1) The exact prevalence of toxoplasma infection in the world is hard to measure, but in the US, there are good measurements of the prevalence of _antibodies_ against the parasite, and these are around 50%. People with these antibodies are presumed to have been exposed and to harbor chronic latent infection. Most will never have any (known) symptoms.
    2) The above is important because this latent infection can reactivate if the immune system becomes suppressed. For example, toxo encephalitis is second only to Pneumocystis pneumonia (in the US. -Second to Tuberculosis in the world at large) among severe opportunistic infections seen in AIDS.
    3) It is also important since people _without_ antibodies are at risk of getting an acute infection, which can be dangerous to the fetus in a pregnant woman. This is why we measure toxo antibodies and advise pregnant, seronegative women not to change the catbox.
    4) Toxo is also worth knowing about since it can occasionally cause symptomatic infection even in people with normal immune symptoms, most notably a syndrome that looks like mono (but tests negative on the "monospot").
    5) This sort of life-long latent infection is quite common. Most of the world is infected with a variety of Herpes viruses, for example. In the particular case of the Herpes Simplex Viruses (HSV1 and HSV2), since they infect neurons, there has long been speculation that at least in some animals they might change the behavior of their hosts in ways that favor transmission.
    6) There are also numerous known cases where parasites alter the behavior of their hosts in ways that help them spread. A few are cited in TFA. There are no proven human examples where the central nervous system is involved directly, but some common symptoms of infection involving peripheral nerve-mediated responses (e.g. sneezing) clearly have this effect.
    7) host-parasite interactions have played an important role in many aspects of evolution (most obviously, the immune system) and the brain is certainly no exception. There are probably many subtle effects not yet understood, but these, involving complex behaviors, are difficult to really pin down experimentally. Therefore, it is important to be clear about what is real data (e.g. the mouse maze experiment cited in TFA) and what is speculation (e.g. that toxo may influence human emotions in a manner analogous to what was seen in mice; or that venereally spread HSV2 might influence primate sexual behavior).

  85. Re: Intelligent Design by usurper_ii · · Score: 1, Interesting


    God created us with immune systems and created us to be self healing...but with a catch. To have a healthy immune system, you have to eat good, vitamin-rich foods, drink pure water, get some sunlight and fresh air, get some exercise and get some good sleep...and be able to control stress.

    Now huge amounts of people eat fast foods one, two, and three times a day, and the food is grown on burnt-out factory farms with zero minerals in the ground. We drink tap water with two poisons in it (chlorine and fluoride). Heck, some people never drink water that doesn't have a cup of corn syrup in it! And after they eat this crap, they take antacids that neutralize the very stomach acids trying to digest and get what little nutrition it can out of the so-called food eaten!

    We cut sleep and then take pills or drink to sleep...and take pills to wake up. And in our waking hours, we reach for a pill for any little ache that comes along or antibiotics for every little sneeze.

    We inject our little tiny babies with mercury and crap grown off of monkey livers and chicken embryos (or worse)...put the crap straight into their little veins.

    Huge amounts of people don't exercise, and they stay inside for large amounts of time where the air quality is the worst, usually (and our news media constantly hits us with the message that sunlight causes cancer, anyway).

    And when people get an infection like this, we poke fun at God for it! And when *you* get sick, you either blame God for it, or you pray to God to get healed...taking *zero* responsibility for the diet and lifestyle that got you sick in the first place (Ohhhh why, Lord? Why, did this happen to me???).

    With this infection, it appears that about 50% of the people's immune system still works, in spite of our lifestyles. From what I see, they appear to be pretty intelligently designed.

    Usurper_ii

  86. Re:Lemmings... by BaltikaTroika · · Score: 1

    I think it's more likely that the parasite makes people believe that urban legend about lemmings committing suicide.

    BaltikaTroika

  87. Toxoplasma and Car Accidents by Valdrax · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, there is another hypothesized threat from Toxoplasma gondii that is a deadly risk even for people with just a dormant infection. (Toxoplamsa doesn't get eliminated by the immune system; it just goes dormant in cysts in the muscle tissue and brain and continues to effect its host for life.)

    Latent toxoplasmosis seems to give people a significantly higher risk of getting in a car accident than people who do not have it. People with latent toxoplasmosis have slower reaction times and a tendency towards more risk-seeking behavior than people without, just like rats with the disease.

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    1. Re:Toxoplasma and Car Accidents by muffen · · Score: 1
      People with latent toxoplasmosis have slower reaction times and a tendency towards more risk-seeking behavior than people without
      Anyone wanna test the jackass crew, would explain why steve-o is the way he is ;)
  88. Awesome...and horrible...all at once by oneiron · · Score: 1

    It seems like this could have far-reaching implications for professionals whose jobs requires them to be responsible for a large number of human lives. Airline Pilots (god they'll demand even more money), Bus Drivers (not just a low/middle-class job anymore?), and Taxi drivers...for example... I wonder how long before some concrete laws and policies are set for humans infected with these parasites. Hopefully, it won't get too out of hand...

  89. Interesting idea, but probably wrong.... by Felgerkarb · · Score: 1
    I didn't tag this the subject line to be a naysayer. The idea is extremely interesting, and, as mentioned, there are countless examples of parasitic/parasitoid organisms controlling host behavior (cf. Emerald Cockroach Wasp.

    One of the author's premises is that the parasite alters the behavior of intermediate hosts. Problem is, brain infection in humans is not part of the host cycle. It is a dead end for the larvae. The scolex creates a marked inflammatory reaction in the brain and dies. It can grow to very large sizes, be mistaken for a tumor, and is the most common cause of seizure disorder world wide. Now, I wouldn't argue with someone who said causing seizures is altering behavior, but I would say that is not the kind of brain control the author postulates.

    Now the link with schizophrenia and antipsychotics is interesting, but also probably wrong. Toxo infection rates are pretty low in US born; as far as I know, also, there is no correlation with schizoprhenia rates and toxo infection. Ultimately, I think this reflects the idea that schizophrenia is secondary to a combination of genetic predisposition and a in-utero 'insult', probably an infection of some sort (of which toxo could be one).

  90. And so it has began by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    the age old battle between the good and the evil, the cats vs the mice.

    No matter who wins, we lose.

  91. It makes us like CATS! by Tsu+Dho+Nimh · · Score: 1

    The parasite makes us tolerate, or even like, CATS. That keeps the life cycle going for the Toxoplasma better than if the kitties had to fend for themselves in the wild.

  92. Another Futurama Cliche? by cardoso · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one that remembers Futurama's brain slugs?

    GIS for Futurama Brain Slugs

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  93. Already Happening by bigattichouse · · Score: 1

    1. Toxoplasmosis can be contracted from Cat Poop 2. Slashdot nerds keep cats 3. Same nerds may or may not clean out litter pan (Plasmoid control?) 4. Same nerds allow cats to breed until they have 50 feline friends pooping all over the house. 5. Plasmoids tell nerd he likes the urine smell. 6. Nerd gives cats to other nerd friends. 7. Toxoplasmid profit!!

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  94. Do not own a cat if you value your brain! by typical · · Score: 1

    Unless you want your kids to end up being like those crazy cat ladies, with brain-damaging cysts, get rid of your cat!

    (Buy a dog instead. :-) )

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  95. Symbotic by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps this is all by design and as we look closer EVERYONE is infected with something like this.. might beI how we survive... or part of how we evolved ( as in it wasnt just the meat ) One never truly knows the complexity of nature.

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    1. Re:Symbotic by mysticgoat · · Score: 1

      Perhaps this is all by design

      An invocation of ID? hmmm...

      If the intelligent designer gave our ancestors toxoplasmosis as a way of assuring that the lions, pumas, leopards, sabre tooth tigers and other predators had plenty to eat, then that pretty clearly contradicts a number of bible passages concerning God's love, His giving Man dominion over the animals, and so on and so on.

      Or maybe it doesn't. A designer capable of a subtle, sneaky, dirty trick like toxoplasma gondii is certainly capable of lying about it and a lot of other things in his documentation.

      Seems to me that there is no way reconcile toxoplasmosis with both Intelligent Design and a fundamentalist belief in the Bible as God's Word, without concluding that God is not a nice guy and does not play by the rules he says we should all play by.

      This is not one of the gods that I would choose to follow, that's for damn sure. I'd prefer to take my chances with someone like Kali or Hekate-- at least with those girls you sort of know where you stand.

      Perhaps I make too much of a jump here. To spell it out, there was a time when our ancestors were an important food source for feline predators. This is still true where old or injured big cats become maneaters, and are able to live and reproduce long after they are no longer able to pursue the prey that younger, healthier big cats go after.

  96. No, that's not true by maynard · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are numerous studies which indicate that latest T. gondii cyst infection produces a noticeable drop in motor skills and intelligence. I wrote an article on this over at K5 a couple weeks ago. One of the comments linked to a study which showed a significant increase in risk of traffic accidents for those with latent T. gondii infection.

    However, the notion that this is a "mind control" parasite in humans is completely off base. A previous study showed that mice infected with T. gondii had increased risk of cat predation. Researchers believe that may be caused by increased dopamine levels in mouse brains as a result. But that is still speculative.

    I could add that I submitted this story to /. almost three weeks ago and was rejected within an hour... but that would be off topic.

  97. Old news. by nege · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hermes Conrad: Onto new business. Today's mission is to go to the brain slug planet.
    Dr. Zoidberg: What are we going to do there?
    Hermes Conrad: Nothing. Just walk around not wearing a helmet.

  98. Women? by overshoot · · Score: 1

    This is /. you insensitive clod!

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  99. The case of Treadwell by unknownideal · · Score: 1
  100. Meow by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Is that what causes some people to have a few dozen cats in their homes? Meooooooooowwwwwwwwww

  101. So the real question is ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    Mind Control Parasites in Half of All Humans

    Are they our better half?

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  102. It Killed Tommy by CranberryKing · · Score: 1

    in Trainspotting. Don't you remember? It was that damned kitten.

  103. Prevalence in the UK by Nick+Driver · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ive read that these parasited are more common in the UK or perhaps we only know of more cases there becuase people are looking harder.

    It couldn't simply be because Britain is more full of crazy old cat women than anywhere else, could it?

  104. Cat "poop" by QuaintRealist · · Score: 4, Informative

    I get your point, and love my cat, too, but the precautions need to be a bit more than you make out. Cats who "clean up" themselves by licking the fur around their rectum just push the infectious material around their fur. After the saliva dries, T. gondii remains infectious for some time afterwards. Really, pregnant women should wash their hands after handling cats.

    That said, nobody should "re-home" an animal just because they're too lazy to take a little extra effort for 9 months, unless you're talking about "re-home" as in "here mom, take care of my cat for a few months and I'll take her back".

    I do understand that the chance of becoming infected is low. It's important too to acknowledge that the damage of infection is catastrophic. (Pun fully intended)

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    1. Re:Cat "poop" by shaitand · · Score: 1

      "I do understand that the chance of becoming infected is low."

      Lets try this again, the most conservative estimates show over 50% of humans are infected. Quite frankly I wouldn't consider extinction of felines altogether out of the question if it is the only completely effective solution. That certainly would not be the first choice, especially for a cat lover like myself. But really, PETA nuts aside, even the lowest examples of my own animal species trump all other creatures on Earth. It's called rooting for the home team.

    2. Re:Cat "poop" by thirdrock · · Score: 1

      But really, PETA nuts aside, even the lowest examples of my own animal species trump all other creatures on Earth.

      As much as the extinction of the common house cat would fill me with wonderous joy, I cannot bring myself to encourage it so that members of our species can continue to propogate.

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    3. Re:Cat "poop" by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      I love it when people decide that we should exterminate a species from the face of the Earth because there's some slight health risk, maybe. My grandmother's condo board decided to outlaw cats a few years ago. They're absolutely besieged by mice now. It's crazy. You know, rodents. The ones that can carry things like plague.

    4. Re:Cat "poop" by infinite9 · · Score: 1

      I do understand that the chance of becoming infected is low. It's important too to acknowledge that the damage of infection is catastrophic.

      I agree. I'm sure some will interpret this as flaimbait for pet-nazis, but I think it's important to say. Vast numbers of humans have screwed up priorities. If my wife is pregnant, and there's a fraction of a percent chance that my cat could cause serious complications for her or the baby, guess what... the cat dies. Well, not really. But the cat is certainly gone. This is because it's an animal, and domesticated one that multiples in huge numbers at that. It's only a twist of fate, country, or culture that kept that cat from being dinner tonight. Some may think this attitude is cruel. I'm not advocating hurting the cat. I'm just suggesting that people keep things in perspective. Would anyone entertain even the slightest risk to their wife or baby for a chicken or a fish?

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    5. Re:Cat "poop" by mrtrumbe · · Score: 2, Informative
      Full disclosure: I'm a cat owner AND a hater of animal rights groups.

      If my wife is pregnant, and there's a fraction of a percent chance that my cat could cause serious complications for her or the baby, guess what... the cat dies. Well, not really. But the cat is certainly gone.

      While I can certainly agree with your point about priorities, this strikes me as nonsensical. Just about every activity in life carries with it risks. Statistically speaking, your hypothetical pregnant wife has many times more of a chance of losing her baby (and her life) by driving a car than by handling cat feces. But how many pregnant women avoid driving a car? Given the impracticality, I wouldn't think many.

      Further, the most common, by far, method of infection is through raw or improperly cooked foods. I'm not sure of the statistics on this one, but after reading Kitchen Confidential, it would seem plausible that eating in a restaurant is more of a risk than owning a cat.

      This is really all about cost and benefit. As good as it may sound to say, you would not eliminate EVERYTHING in your life that causes your unborn baby even the slightest risk of death. Besides being impractical in many cases, it would just make you miserable for no measurable payoff. You may take precautions that can reduce the risk for many of the risks and that is normal for most parents to be.

      Back to cats: assuming you own a cat, you bought the critter for a reason. It brings something to your life and that is the reason you got it. Now entirely eliminating that benefit for a tiny chance of infection (a percentage which is dwarfed by many, many other risks you probably take daily) just doesn't seem very rational to me. If the chance of infection via the cat were greater (IOW, higher than insignificant), or there were no reasonable precautions you could take against infection, then I could understand it.

      Like most other issues, this gets blown out of proportion by reactionaries, especially in the media. The risk is small, but talking to some people, it would seem as though every cat in the world should be killed.

      So get the facts before you go out making a bad decision. Some spend years training, getting to know and form a bond with a cat just to piss it away because of an irrational fear. That is just poor decision making, in my book.

      Taft

    6. Re:Cat "poop" by mrtrumbe · · Score: 1
      Oh, and BTW, if you have an indoor cat (or make your cat an indoor cat for the duration of your pregnancy) the risk of infection can be close to zero. Cats only shed the bacteria that cause this infection for a few weeks after they get infected. Further, an infection is only high risk if you are pregnant the first time you've had the infection. So really the biggest danger is the introduction of the bacteria into your home during pregnancy. By not allowing your cat to be near sources of infection (IOW: outside), you bring your chances of this WAY down (ie. less than insignificant). Your vet would have more information on all this.

      Taft

    7. Re:Cat "poop" by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      Aside from the question of probabilities, there's also the question of why someone got a cat in the first place, if they're going to kick it out as soon as they choose to have a "higher priority". It's not like they're forced to have a pet in the first place.

      If someone doesn't even have the responsibility to look after a cat - getting one one minute, and then changing their mind because they want something else - is this the sort of responsibilty that's good for taking on a child?

    8. Re:Cat "poop" by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
      Thank you, this deserves to be modded up way more than it has been.

      There was a similar problem a year or two ago when the media latched onto a couple kids who caught salmonella from hamster poop, and suddenly everyone was dumping their pet rodents. There are 14 million cases of salmonella a year - something like 17 of them are from pet rodents.

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    9. Re:Cat "poop" by shaitand · · Score: 1

      "As much as the extinction of the common house cat would fill me with wonderous joy, I cannot bring myself to encourage it so that members of our species can continue to propogate."

      So you're saying that if it's us or the cats, you vote for the cats?

    10. Re:Cat "poop" by shaitand · · Score: 1

      ok, Schizo inducing parasites carried by cats have infected over half of mankind. Plague infections this century.. virtually nill. Not that I'm keeping score or anything.

    11. Re:Cat "poop" by shaitand · · Score: 1

      This from the AC who hurls slanderous attacks with no premise to back his conclusion.

    12. Re:Cat "poop" by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      They were here first.

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    13. Re:Cat "poop" by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      The parasites don't seem to be causing all that much trouble... maybe because we've adapted to their presence? It seems like usually the only time they actually cause problems is if you happen to get your first infection when you're pregnant. Kind of like chicken pox except milder....

      Now, plague is still a problem in some places. Antibiotics do nicely against it but we all know how fleeting a victory that can be.

    14. Re:Cat "poop" by shaitand · · Score: 1

      "The parasites don't seem to be causing all that much trouble..."

      And how could we presume to know what damage to attribute to the parasites? They do not present an obvious and immediate direct health hazard but what actions have been taken as a result of altered brain chemistry? Can religion be attributed to them to perhaps? Anti-abortion? War? Greed? Who knows what atrocities can be attributed to the parasites.

    15. Re:Cat "poop" by thirdrock · · Score: 1

      So you're saying that if it's us or the cats, you vote for the cats?

      Can I vote for neither?

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    16. Re:Cat "poop" by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Wish I had mod points...

  105. Re: Intelligent Design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's a secularist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

    Sincerely;

    Commander Ripper

  106. I understand, but... by QuaintRealist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I understand your point, and read the article you link for professional reasons some time ago. When they talk about the relative risk decreasing with time after infection, this poses a significant question - does the infection cause the problem, or does the immune response cause the problem (like arthritis following streptococcal infection)? Also, long latent cysts (again, reference the article you linked) present a diminishing relative risk over time. The study is not designed to determine whether that relative risk decreases to zero.

    We do not know that dormant T. gondii infection is a risk in and of itself, because having the cyst form means that you once had the active form. We do know that previous infections present various problems whose severity seems to depend on:

    1) Severity of infection
    2) Age at which infection started
    3) Length of time which has passed since infection

    Which provides some circumstantial evidence that the active infection phase causes the majority of problems.

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  107. don't crack out the party hats yet by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

    If the causal link was as concrete as you described, people would already be cured of schitzophrenia with a treatment of anti-parasitic and anti-inflamatory drugs. Its just not the case, at present. (And as an aside, Haldol is out of vogue as an antipsychotic medication. Way too strong negative side-effects. Chlorpromazine and Zyprexa are more the flavors of the month. (Not sure if they have strong anti-parasitic medicative effects).)

    It does give one hope that within our lifetimes, that schitzophrenia can be treated with effective medication.

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    1. Re:don't crack out the party hats yet by sgent · · Score: 1
      I may have been a bit over the top in my earlier post.

      I was merely trying to emphasize the fact that research such as this -- and its findings, may very well lead to understandings of human disease that would have been heretical 30 years ago. /.'ers were laughing at research which over time may have a profound impact eventually on our understanding and treatment of mental illness. Today, its not there (obviously), but the links are intriguing to say the least

      BTW -- I mentioned haldol because that's what was used in the research/experiments mentioned in the article. Most of the reason it has fallen out of use is related to its horrendous side effect profile and other disadvantages, not its efficacy (although those two are linked as well to some extent).

  108. "Mind control" glorifies the brain by deuterium · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To label the effects of a parasitic infection on an organ as mind control is an unnecessary distinction. It's simply one of many possible parasitic infections that alter the functioning of the the body. If what we're evaluating is altered behavior, a typical flu offers a more immediate demonstration. Typical flu vicitms will (for a time) become less active, communicate less, etc. I think that what intrigues many about this particular instance is the concept of invisible, "subconscious" control... that something we're not aware of may be nudging us into different thoughts and feelings. This, however, implies that there is some uncorruptable state of free will which one ideally operates within, which simply isn't established. Our thoughts and actions are in situ the result of numerous interactions not apparent to our conscious consideration. We're just along for the ride, parasite or no.
    Beyond this, if Toxoplasma gondii infection is indeed so prevelant, it's likely been a factor in the dynamics of human evolution, anyway. Our brains perhaps already assume the potential for such influence in their normal operation.

  109. Completely agreed by maynard · · Score: 1

    Yes. Yes. Yes.

    Though circumstantial evidence seems to indicate that latent cyst infection within both muscle tissue and brain tissue appears to affect gene expression. But that's still speculation. Please note that I wrote that article as a lay person writer and not as an experienced researcher in the field.

  110. antipsychotics by subtropolis · · Score: 1, Troll

    So it lives in Republicans, then...

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  111. good by subtropolis · · Score: 1

    Now, if there's any justice, you'll be modded redundant. Quit yer whining!

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  112. This explains ... by Grog6 · · Score: 1

    ... my psychotic, cat loving ex-girlfriend.

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  113. wow by subtropolis · · Score: 1

    You just described the UN when Bolton walks into the room.

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  114. The Other Half by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    So the young comedian steps into the spotlight, thinks of a random number, and slyly intones into the mic: "14925".

    <crickets>

    He scuttles sideways into the wings, shattered by embarassment. He asks the old comedian "did I pick a loser?"

    The old comedian leans over, and whispers out of the side of his mouth "no, Groucho used to kill 'em with that one".

    Young comedian: "why'd I bomb?"

    Old comedian: "TIMING."

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  115. AdWords by thegnu · · Score: 1

    Toxoplasm should totally set up an endorsement deal, it would make lots of money. I mean, it already makes me eat Ben & Jerry's and surf for free pr0n for 7 hours straight. It couldn't possibly be a personality defect making me do that.

    Nooooo....

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  116. Re:Name taken - Dogs eat cat feces by j-stroy · · Score: 1

    Sorry for bringing this up.
    Rats are on the decline as is our exposure to their feces, etc in our food supply.
    Dogs (known for licking their anus vigourously) seem to find cat feces an irresistable treat, whether from the litter box, or the garden.
    "Mans Best Friend" also takes any opportunity it has to lick adults and children on the hands and face.
    Dogs live in close proximity to us, and could be a vector here.
    My dog (a rottweiler) hunts rats. She is very intelligent and aware, tho sometimes seems to have no fear ie heights, traffic, etc.

  117. Re:Well, you know by Jeremi · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    And when *you* get sick, you either blame God for it, or you pray to God to get healed...taking *zero* responsibility for the diet and lifestyle that got you sick in the first place


    That's the price of being omnipotent, you know -- if it's in your power to fix anything with a wave of your hand, then of course people are going to blame you when things don't get fixed. If God can't handle the criticism, then perhaps he'd better get off his ass and pitch in more often. This whole "I love you all but I'm going to sit on my hands and watch you suffer and die because I think it builds character" schtick is a weak cop-out and frankly we should expect better from someone who styles themself as an All-Powerful Benevolent Diety. But I'm personally not worried -- if God can't deliver the goods, then maybe the competition will.

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  118. Re:Well, you know by sammy+baby · · Score: 1
    Look, there's a lot of truth to what you post,but I have to take issue with this:
    Huge amounts of people don't exercise, and they stay inside for large amounts of time where the air quality is the worst, usually (and our news media constantly hits us with the message that sunlight causes cancer, anyway).

    Reference: our news media.
    The truth is that prolonged exposure to sunlight is actually a fairly good predictor of cancer. I say this as a emmber of a family prone to it, and with grandmother who has the very rare Merkel cell carcinoma described in the article.

    That's not an exhortation to stay inside all the time. But you seem to be mocking the notion that exposure to UV radiation can cause cancer, and that's just bizarre.

    Incidentally: if avoidance of fast food is such a good idea, shouldn't it have said something about it in the bible? As I recall, most of the dietary advice in the Bible is kinda contradictory.
  119. Re:Well, you know by mboverload · · Score: 1

    Drink PURE water? You seem to think that pure H2O exists on earth. It doesn't. Water is The Universal Solvent. It ALWAYS has something dissolved in it.

    (Not mentioning that drinking only pure water might kill you)

  120. Well then.... by wtansill · · Score: 1

    That certainly seems to explain the behavior of all the PHBs!

    Now all I have to do is find some way to reprogram the little beasties to my advantage!

    <cackles maniaclly>

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  121. behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cats? by count0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've always wondered if the personality differences exhibited in the population are an actual effect of the parasite, or simply a correlation of 'people who like cats also are likely to behave in these ways'. For that, there'd need to be a study comparing infected cat owners with non-infected cat owners (and even then, maybe infection rates rise with other behaviors / cultural things, like not being careful with the litter box)...

    Anyways, given that I'm not a fan of cats, I've always been disturbed by people who fawn over them ;-)

  122. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

    My kitty wants to send you a 'gift'...

  123. Snowcrash reference by Lt.Hawkins · · Score: 1

    Language IS a virus! Enki told me so!

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  124. 84% of the French? by ahecht · · Score: 1

    So let me get this straight: 84% of the French have a parasite which, in rats, causes them to surrender to their enemies.

    See, the French always surrendering isn't their fault! It's the parasite!

  125. Cat Ladies? by Alien54 · · Score: 1
    Obviously, this is a potential explanation for the stereotypical little old ladies who live with their several dozen pet cats. The bug keeps putting out the chemicals that gives rise to the feeling "CATS GOOD". A more generic feeling would be "Predators Good".

    A variant on this would be used to explain any number of possibly undesired behaviors, such as war mongering, etc. This has political ramifications. At least one political talk show host routinely calls the philosophy he is opposed to a mental disease. The obvious question there is "who is actually diseased?" Are Repubilcans and Democrats infected with different bugs, for example?

    A more generic impulse would be towards religion, the big thing in the forest, in the Mountain, in the sky. The idea of a mechanism compelling non-survival behavior is similar to the ideas propounded in at least one religious group, although it is not their particular explanantion for the phenomena.

    The politically incorrect will jump on this as an explanation for groups like PETA.

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    1. Re:Cat Ladies? by mellon · · Score: 1

      More likely they're both infected with the _same_ disease - the one that makes you think that behaving in a partisan manner is how you make the world a better place.

    2. Re:Cat Ladies? by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > But what about the groups like GNAA?

      Their problem isn't toxoplasmosis, but idiocy.

  126. Real info from research center by Animats · · Score: 1

    Here's some real info from one of the labs working on this. The Yahoo News story is terrible.

  127. We are your friends.. by whoppo · · Score: 1

    We mean you no harm.... here.. sit down... have a coke..... enjoy this dry tootsie-roll... you are happy... you are happy.... hey... why don't you turn on the TV... I think American Gladiators is on.... watch American Gladiators.... we are your friends... have anoher coke... there's a new episode of Survivor coming on soon.... we are your friends..

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  128. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by count0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gee, thanks. Was that the parasite talking ;-)

    I *do* think there's a difference between regular cat owners, and people who obsess over their felines...it's the latter that I wonder about when stories of mind control parasites come up...

  129. Women who keep cats are at fault here. by thumper666 · · Score: 1

    As women become more and more un-dateable, they accumulate more and more cats, eventually leading to the "another-old-woman-dies-and-is-eaten-by-her-cats" story. Toxoplasma infects the brain of cats and those that are around them, and because it's present in cat saliva, one can get a toxoplasma infection by a cat scratch. I would lay even money that 90% of those infected with toxoplasma (and thus make the world more unstable) are women.

  130. Obvious by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

    So what affect does it have on humans?

    Glowing eyes. *sage nod*

  131. One word by imipak · · Score: 1

    Midichlorians

  132. No, not ID by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Poor choice of words on my part. That isnt what i was trying to reference.

    'design' as in 'design of nature'.. not some outdated deity..

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  133. Yes, we are all infected by ENOENT · · Score: 1

    That is why we actively seek out the smell of cat urine.

    (And this is only funny if you RTFA.)

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  134. Half the population of the world? by Hershmire · · Score: 1

    I don't ever remember being tested for this parasite. How can they make such a claim?

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  135. Plagiarism? by Daleks · · Score: 1

    I saw this story off digg on the 8th. Then AP writes their article on the 11th. The two accounts are almost identicle in the first half too! Another AP writer ripping off a blogger?

  136. Obligatory Frank Zappa Quote (gag me with a spoon) by thePfhitz · · Score: 1

    Like, my mother is, like, a total space cadet
    She, like, makes me do the dishes and... CLEAN the cat box!
    I am sure... that's like GROSS!
    BARF OUT!
    OH MY GOD!

  137. The Upside by Britney+Pember · · Score: 1

    Eventually, this works out just fine for Humanity.

    Since Tg is 'targetted' on those most strongly attracted to Felids, and it induces an attraction for felid excreta*, those who are disabled by the aberant inclination in the first place will do themselves in through the induced habit of sleeping in cat pans.
    Problem solved.

    ((8^D))

    *(in rats)

  138. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by mahmud · · Score: 1

    I love cats, but I would be the last person to do skidiving or try to hit on a girl in a nightclub. So liking cats doesn't automatically mean risktaking behaviour. (I am also afraid of all predators that are dangerous/big enough to harm me)

  139. that's risktaking behavior by r00t · · Score: 2, Funny

    Loving a cat will usually make the cat really mad at you. It could scratch or bite. Also, you could go to jail. In many places it is illegal to love a cat.

    1. Re:that's risktaking behavior by mahmud · · Score: 1
      Loving a cat will usually make the cat really mad at you.

      How do you know? Have you tried "loving" a cat?

  140. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by r00t · · Score: 1

    So, maybe it isn't the parasite? Maybe being a cat owner is more directly associated with mental illness?

    Makes sense.

  141. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by mahmud · · Score: 1

    s/skidiving/skydiving

  142. At last by beforewisdom · · Score: 1

    At last, I finally have a rational account for how Bush and Tony Blair got reelected.

  143. MOD parent up by transporter · · Score: 1

    An interesting post modded as a troll or flamebait on Slashdot? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. It seems more like a case of sour grapes to me. Transporter

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  144. Now you know why you like your cat by yoprst · · Score: 1

    void

  145. Not so. by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1

    That is not why Bush hears voices in his head. He hears voices in the same maner that people hear the ocean in sea shells.

  146. Gou'ald Scouts by AnalystX · · Score: 1

    These are just the Gou'ald scouts. We have about 3.5 years before the main invasion.

    1. Re:Gou'ald Scouts by AnalystX · · Score: 1

      The interest in cats is how the Egyptians were caught off guard by the Gou'ald the first time.

  147. Nobody looking for the treatment? by phil4 · · Score: 1
    All these posts and I don't see one askin gwhere to get 'pyrimethamine' to rid themselves of the parisite. I guess it is firmly in controll around here!

    Must... not... press.... submit....

    1. Re:Nobody looking for the treatment? by phil4 · · Score: 1

      It also keeps me from _reading_ the preview copy for obvious typos.

  148. Effect on the criminal justice system by davidwr · · Score: 1

    If a person is infected with a parasite that doesn't make him legally insane but does make him much more likely to engage in criminal activity, should the law cut him a break if he agrees to be cured?

    Should the law MANDATE that he be cured as a condition of release?

    What if, instead of a parasite, it's something genetic, like an as-for-now-hypothetical "amorality gene?" Should the law give such a person a break if they agree to medical intervention? Should the law require it as a condition of release?

    Don't laugh, drug-based social engineering has been tried repeatedly over the last hundred years. If you count castration aka-testosterone-modification-therapy of the mentally ill and so-called deviants, then for millenia.

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  149. Now I get it! by baKanale · · Score: 1

    I was wondering why I had a suicidal attraction to cat urine!

  150. There needs to be a timestamp on news... by tod_miller · · Score: 1

    First mention.

    I am sure I watched a BBC documentary on this about 7 years ago. They even mentioned about car insurance ties to this being valid, as it makes you take risks.

    ffs, I am so annoyed at finding repeat news as 'news'.

    In other news: Bread is now available in sheets, or as some cutting edge people are calling them, slices.

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  151. Tracing the story back through time by tod_miller · · Score: 1

    Fuck yahoo. Here is a link trail back through time:

    yyyy.mm.dd url

    2006.xx.xx Who knows where this will be gay-linked next
    2006.02.12 http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/1 2/0738233
    2006.02.11 http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060211/sc_space/mi ndcontrolbyparasites
    2006.01.17 http://loom.corante.com/archives/2006/01/17/the_re turn_of_the_puppet_masters.php
    2003.11.?? http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol9no11/03-0143.htm
    1997.11.?? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd= Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9487962&dopt=Abstract
    1896.??.?? Is insanity due to a microbe? [editorial] Sci Am 1896
    1066.10.14 Reported scuffle broke out due to some tosspot road builders being toxoplamarised. //ghey

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  152. I shall jump on this bandwagon by Phil+Urich · · Score: 1

    [Insert comment which replies directly to the article and not to the post, replying to the first high-modded post only because it gives higher visibility, thus higher chances of up-modding.]

    [Possible comment: in South Korea, only old people have mind control parasites]

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  153. All Lies by Wellerite · · Score: 1

    The Toxoplasma are our friends. They only need a safe warm home to... HELP!!!! [NO CARRIER]

  154. effects on humans evident from the post... by BerkeleyDude · · Score: 1

    So what affect does it have on humans?

    Wow, guys, this is no joke... It already had an effect on the poster.

  155. Yeah right by Superblargo · · Score: 1

    I doubt that this is real--hmmm...that's strange. I suddenly have an urge to go kill some people...

  156. Re: Intelligent Design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    Ah, so health problems are caused by our impure modern life. Except that in prehistoric times the average life-span was about 30 years. You're right, there's a lot of unhealthy crap in the modern world but there's also about a million things about God's creation that we've had to fix.

    Tell you what, you go life a pure life in a cave and I'll make use of medical technology, we'll see who lives longer.

  157. I want a new drug by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 1

    Wait - being infected causes inreased dopamine levels?!?!?1

    GIMME!!!!!

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    1. Re:I want a new drug by maynard · · Score: 1

      Just dig into the cat box and chow away. Pretend they're tootsie rolls - that always helps. Mmmmmmm... tootsie rolls.

  158. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by ignavus · · Score: 1

    No, no. SKI-diving. It's like water-skiing, only you point the tips of the skis downwards and get dragged under the water.

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  159. A few hundred thousand years ago by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

    >as Joanne Webster points out in a fascinating review article on the subject , humans are rarely preyed upon by cats.

    Not since we got to the top of the food chain, but until then the big cats hunted our ancestors. Man-eating tigers are rare because of some evolutionarily recent developments, like humans inventing guns and tigers going to endangered species status.

  160. They've already got one... by patio11 · · Score: 1

    ... every time I hear their music I get the urge to commit self-destructive behavior.

  161. You just don't have hungry cats. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1
    If you feed a cat on a schedule like you do a dog (not leaving full bowls around) the cat will treat you like God and act like the universe revolves around you.

    Your cat does'nt have an 'independent spirit', it's just full.

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  162. Mod parent up by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

    Some of you people might not agree with everything he says but it is not fair to mod it as flamebait. We are living unhealthy lifestyles.

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  163. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

    Uh, that got modded interesting? Do you have cDc Ninja Strike Forcers following you and modding you up? ;)

    I can't obsess over my cat, she would eventually tire of batting me around and lose me under the refrigerator.

  164. Toxoplasmosis ain't fun by halr9000 · · Score: 1

    This is coming from soneone who knows firsthand.

    When I was 2 or so, I caught an infection of toxoplasma in my eyes. I guess I was playing in a sandbox where a cat had crapped, ended up wiping my eyes, etc.

    Long story short, scarring formed on both of my retinas. I only have peripheral vision in my left eye--quite legally blind on that side. I can make out the "Big E" in the optometrist's office, that's about it. I have some scarring in my right eye too, which is pretty scary. Luckily it formed outside of the region where the retina is most sensitive, where the optic nerves hook up. But it did kill enough of the receptors that the brain needs such that I'm permanently very near-sighted. Even with eyeglasses, best I can get is 20:40. Another third worse (20:60) and I wouldn't be able to drive.

    Ok, that was kinda long story long. Point is--I pay for the extra long-term disability insurance at work, and I'm gonna be first in the damn line for voluntary eye replacement surgey. I might hold out for the Terminator-style HUD, though.

    And the other point--keep your kids (and pregnant women) from kitty litter. Put covers over your sandbox. Stay away from this bug, it's not fun.

  165. Insightful? Check your stats. by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1
    You might want to check your statistics. France has the highest incidence of infection and it has been a bastion of atheism for centuries not to mention irrational/self destructive foreign policy. Voltaire, the French revolution etc...

    There may be a decline of religion in a few countries in western Europe but looking worldwide, atheism is on a sharp decline from it's already small numbers. The largest declines of atheism occurred after the fall of communism in Russia and eastern Europe.

    No doubt I will be modded as flamebait for injecting "facts" into the discussion by the same people that modded you insightful.

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    1. Re:Insightful? Check your stats. by Skreems · · Score: 1

      I hope you're wrong. Not to go on too much of a tangent, but one of the stupidest things about /. is how people will moderate based on their opinion of the content of the post, when they should be moderating based on its style. You posted an insightful rebuttal to my original, and whether people agree with what you say or not, you presented well phrased logical points, and you shouldn't be modded down.

      This is why I long ago abandoned trying to hold any real debate on this site, though.

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  166. improper comparison by r00t · · Score: 1
    Creatures of species X commonly give special status to species X.

    If my little kids wander into a cat's home (mountain lion cave?) and the cat kills them, I'm not going to feel that the cat did anything wrong.

    You're not a cat, are you?

  167. cats traits as evidence by r00t · · Score: 1

    Non-domesticated cats, like the bobcat and lion, don't meow. They mostly growl, roar, and hiss. Domesticated cat noises resemble human baby noises.

    Domesticated cats are about the size of human babies. They have big round eyes.

    So yes, cats really are evolved (designed, whatever) to control humans. Since baby-resemblance is the mechanism, it is understandable that women are more affected.

    1. Re:cats traits as evidence by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall reading somewhere that cats don't meow at one another; they'll hiss, yowl, scream, and use lots of body language, but meowing is something they developed specifically to deal with humans.

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  168. A serious side-note by jd · · Score: 1
    The rats investigated showed a lack of fear, if not an attraction towards potentially lethal scenarios. This is not that uncommon in humans and I'd certainly count some politicians amongst the ranks of Homo Lemmingus. From what I understand of other posts, that specific link hasn't been evident, but of course that would somewhat depend on whether anyone has looked for it.


    ("Mental retardation" has been linked, and there's little doubt that you'll find more people with mental problems in dangerous professions than chance alone would suggest. However, that could also be because nobody else wants those kinds of jobs, and the safer jobs tend to also have very high entry requirements. Having said that, though, statistics can't tell you what is cause and what is effect in such cases. Both predate all written language.)

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  169. I was confused by the sources by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 1

    I think maybe it isnt a good idea to cite mostly fiction to back up claims like this by way of example. It might be better to use *REAL* examples so as not to confuse me.

    Am I supposed to believe this? Or is this a science fiction story?

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  170. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by shawb · · Score: 1

    I've seen much of the same behaviour in small breed dog owners. I even saw a special on chickens where there was a lady who had a chicken for a pet that she fawned over in much the same manner. I think this is unrelated to toxiplasmosis and more related to strange attractions to animals of that size. Probably misdirected child-rearing behavior, but I'm an animal care professional, not a human psychologist. Human psychology does play a huge role in how pets are cared for, though. Most evidentally is in hoarders (crazy cat ladys living in filthy conditions with hundreds of cats) which has been linked to a form of obsessive compulsion disorder... the compulsion is to "rescue" the cats from whatever fate may befall them in the outside world, but the reality is they can not give them the basic care needed (or even give it to themselves.) One of the more common attributes is that these people will remember the smallest detail about the actual "rescue" (when they took the animal in) but will have practically no idea of the cat's personality quirks, medical needs, or many other things you would expect any pet owner or animal caretaker to know. Not all hoarders fall into this particular class, but the worst offenders generally do.

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  171. Re:Name taken - Dogs eat cat feces by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

    Dogs seem to find cat feces an irresistable treat

    Finally, an explanation of what exactly "Scooby Snacks" are. But...Shaggy and Scooby-Do are afraid of everything...now I'm confused...

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  172. toxoplasmosis? by thephydes · · Score: 1

    I had a bout of toxoplasmosis when I was 16 and I'm still alive ...... and lots of people think I'm a rat, especially those people who like to run mazes.

  173. your rockband? by kioopi · · Score: 1

    check it out, them parasites even have a website:

    http://www.toxoplasma.de/

  174. Re:If you lived near me...Mods, it's not flamebait by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    Cats are quite clean animals that are often very useful. Sure, you city people who force the cat to use a corner of your house as a latrine and let it lick out your bowl after you're done supper are kind of disgusting but that's not the cat's fault.

  175. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    Just small breed? You need to take a closer look at some people and their (large) dogs/cats/birds/reptiles/pet rocks. I think some people just have some oddly misplaced nurturing instincts.

  176. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    I think I left "cars" off that list....

  177. I think you meant... by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    Statement ::= Political | Religious | OS ;

    1. Re:I think you meant... by achard · · Score: 1

      OK, It was funny up to there... thats just nerdy

    2. Re:I think you meant... by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      Hahahha, I guess you understood it up to there then :)

  178. futurama by Danzigism · · Score: 1

    it kind of reminds me when Fry from Futurama gets worms and it enhances just about everything in his body..

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  179. Re:50% infection rate worldwide, much less in the by DeanFox · · Score: 1


    This is striking. That's the same percentage that voted for this administration. Infection rates are dropping and so are his approval ratings? Then they decide to boost support they drop health care for the poor?! OMG now it makes sense! It IS an infection! We need a national campaign to get their minds back. We have 50 million lost souls. :)

  180. No worries! by QuaintRealist · · Score: 1

    No worries, mate. I appreciate the chance to have a discussion I understand (a lot of the articles here go right over my head). I also appreciate the lack of flames...

    Some of the discussions here are mature and informative, and others...well you've been around here longer than I have

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  181. Eating Tootsie-Rolls by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1
    Just dig into the cat box and chow away. Pretend they're tootsie rolls - that always helps. Mmmmmmm... tootsie rolls.
    I have a co-worker who did the opposite number. He had a girlfriend whose cat tended to leave "gifts" on the carpet. One day he molded a Tootsie-Roll into the approximate shape of a piece of cat feces and dropped it on the carpet while they were there. He pointed it out to her and then stated something along the lines of, "Well, waste not, want not" and picked it up and ate it. They didn't date for much longer after that...

    Of course, this is the same co-worker who, in college, would call up the sorority houses with a message along the lines of "This is Doctor Smith from the Health Office. I have some bad news for you. The test came up positive for VD. Please call me immediately."

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    1. Re:Eating Tootsie-Rolls by maynard · · Score: 1

      here is a recipie for you and your friend. Enjoy!

  182. Eating cat turds from the litter box by KlomDark · · Score: 1

    Here's some pictures of sick people eating from the litter box, even worse, they fed some to a little kid.

  183. So that's the reason.. by 21chrisp · · Score: 1

    This must be what caused the little Japanese girl at the zoo to wear the baby seal outfit to the polar bear exhibit. Fortunately the polar bear only jumped and howled on the glass. Causing the young lady to shriek and fall backwards in panic but no flesh eaten.

  184. Parent post twists Wikipedia statments by kryzx · · Score: 1
    That was a deceptive bit of selective editing on the wikipedia article, to imply that it contradicts statments in TFA, which it does not.

    Even before this was posted on /. the wikipedia article included a mention of speculation about the effects on human brains, and the 50% figure.

    Wikipedia page as of 01:02, 10 February 2006

    From that page:
    "Given the close biological similarities between mice and humans, it has been suggested that human behaviour could also be affected in some way, and some epidemiological links may have been found between latent toxoplasmosis infections and car crashes, slower reactions, an increase in risk-taking behaviors, and schizophrenia"

    "It is estimated that up to 50% of all people worldwide are infected with Toxoplasma gondii."

    Maybe that was posted AC to avoid repercussions of misusing one of our favorite sources of information.

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  185. Well, it might explain by phorm · · Score: 1

    The concept of the "crazy cat lady." Perhaps somebody with a form of mental disorder (aka the crazy part) caused by this parasite would also have an usual attraction to cats (the "cat lady") part.

    Of course, men would be succeptible too...

  186. Re:You are sick. by porcupine8 · · Score: 1

    If you have that attitude and are truly that paranoid, then if there is a decent chance of there being a pregnant woman in your household in the next 10-15 years, DON'T GET A FUCKING CAT IN THE FIRST PLACE. Is that so hard? There are many other pets to choose from.

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  187. Re:You're not a parent, are you? (Re:Half infected by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
    If the chance of infection from the cat was being around was only 1%, that is still too high.

    What if it's 0.028%? Because that's about what it is. Less than one thirtieth of a percent. I think you can find better things to protect your family from.

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  188. That explains... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    ...Republicans!!!

    I guess that's why they flipped the wrong lever in both 2000 and 2004. Their vote ensures that we will enter WW III and vast amounts of the human population will perish in order for there to be meat for the Republican party masters, the Greys on which to feast. ...Democrats!!!

    I guess that's why they flipped the wrong lever in both 2000 and 2004. Their votes, if they had won would have ensured that the "terrorists" would have won and the U.S. and it's allies would be rained down upon with flames by the insane terrorists. This would have provided vast amounts of meat for the Democrat party masters, the Greys on which to feast. ...Libertarians!!!

    I guess that's why they flipped the wrong lever in both 2000 and 2004. Their votes no matter who won would have assured either of the two scenarios above, or would have given us Libertarian rule which would have gutted everything that the government provides with the exception of a few "hot dogs" who think they know how to fight an alien invasion force with an Ice Cream truck and a a "dirty bomb". After the Greys picked off our Libertarian heroes in a half an hour, we'd be at their mercy and ready to be turned into meat on which to feast.

    Next U.S. election, vote sane folks. Remember your vote costs lives.

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  189. cat scratch fever by armagost · · Score: 1

    I was referring to the song by Ted Nugent, not the disease.

  190. However. . . by NOPteron · · Score: 1

    Child Onset Schizophrenia is the culmination of
    1. being born with bits-of-brain missing, and
    2. having one's brain-structure different thereby, and
    3. having one's braincell structure different ( different kind of alpha-7 nicotinic-receptors, wrong number of dopamine receptors, something profoundly monkeyed with the glial cell line derived neurotrophic factor, and probably with the glial cells theirselves, etc. ), and
    4. having a significant portion of one's brain ( 1/10th?. . . starting in parietal-tissue ) slaughtered ( programmed-cell-death ) off, taking about 5 years ( in one's teens ), and doing greater ( visual centres ) or lesser amounts of decimation, then. . .

    What happens when someone who is already experiencing this, gets their central nervous-system distorted by LSD or equiv?

    Catastrophic failure to deal-with reality? Failure to balance? Slaughter of some bystander because they were rigged and could not stand against the combined-force of their inherent-defectiveness and the drugs?

    There's a difference between pushing against the side of a solidly centered/balanced boat, and pushing-against a lopsided, explosive-laden, misconfigured boat, eh?

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  191. that is excellent advice by r00t · · Score: 1
    Yes, don't get a cat in the first place. People tend to forget that:

    • a woman can be fertile until about age 50
    • a man might remarry (his wife might die)
    • rape happens sometimes
    • daughters can become fertile

    I suggest tropical fish, large tortises (on the kitchen floor, near where the refrigerator gives off heat), and caged things. For caged things I suggest gerbils, rats, and iguanas. (note: iguanas are 3 feet long) A medium-small dog might be OK.

    1. Re:that is excellent advice by porcupine8 · · Score: 1

      So.... You're worried about the toxoplasmosis from a cat, but the possibility of getting salmonella from a reptile (or even a rodent) doesn't phase you?

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    2. Re:that is excellent advice by r00t · · Score: 1

      Salmonella is not as dangerous.

      Salmonella is easy to kill. It takes a LOT of disinfectant or heat to wipe out toxoplasmosis.

      Caged things don't climb on your sofa.

      Caged things don't wander outside to pick up diseases.

  192. Re:If you lived near me...Mods, it's not flamebait by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1
    Cats are quite clean animals that are often very useful.

    Cat may be quite useful but they are hardly the cleanest of animals from a biological perspective. While they may groom themselves quite effectively, they do tend to prey on vermin and other carriers of disease. Now this might be useful in that they help to reduce the population of those carriers of disease but house pets can expose humans to the very diseases carried by their prey.

    When I was growing up in the country, we had outside cats and dogs. All animals belong outside and I would argue that keeping pets in the city is a form of animal cruelty.

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  193. Re:If you lived near me...Mods, it's not flamebait by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    A cat or dog that comes indoors sometimes isn't bad... I wouldn't sleep with it, or eat out of it's bowl (or let it eat out of mine!). Mom was always very adamant that the dog and cat were not to lick our faces too. Now in the city I watch the neighbors cats who would LOVE to come outside and chase things... but they can't. Same with dogs, especially big ones, who get walked maybe once a day and spend the rest inside waiting for their owners to come home.

    I doubt cats and dogs are worse for your health then children are though.

  194. Re:behavior changed by parasites, or by liking cat by Skewray · · Score: 1

    I wonder if perhaps cats are responsible for civilization. Much of the way our culture is formed was based on the actions of people who were basically nuts, from their culture's point of view.

  195. Only 3 LSD crazies? Wow. by Domo-Sun · · Score: 1
    I've only met 3 individuals whom I've witnessed really bizarre behavior from after they took psychedelic drugs. [...]

    While I don't doubt that a bad trip on acid can be the springboard for schizophrenia, these are usually cases where the individual is already predisposed towards mental illness, and the acid simply triggers it by inducing a traumatic experience. [...]

    I have simply known too many people who have done acid or similar hallucinogens and have never exhibited any psychotic behavior to believe that LSD can cause schizophrenia. In fact, I don't think that LSD plays much of a role in the etiology of schizophrenia or any other mental illness.
    Oh really, Mr. Doctor Scientist, thanks for your superior scientific analysis. Where did you get your degree again, the school of "I used drugs."? And what's your clinical experience, Drug use and your brother? What controls did you use, yourself? Has anyone examined you for your strange psychotic novelty-seeking obsession with drugs, or did you just diagnose yourself as normal?

    It doesn't matter that these individuals, "may have been prone to bad trips?" LSD causes mental illness?

    Don't try to blame away.

    Don't anyone take this guys opinion as fact, not when you're dealing with your body. Better safe than sorry.
    1. Re:Only 3 LSD crazies? Wow. by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      Oh really, Mr. Doctor Scientist, thanks for your superior scientific analysis. Where did you get your degree again, the school of "I used drugs."? And what's your clinical experience, Drug use and your brother? What controls did you use, yourself? Has anyone examined you for your strange psychotic novelty-seeking obsession with drugs, or did you just diagnose yourself as normal?

      I never claimed to be a doctor or scientist. I was merely presenting anecdotal evidence based on my own experiences and personal observations. I also don't claim to be normal--a very vague and loaded word. Terms such as "normal" and "sane" are pretty subjective. If you want to define them as being in the median range of the psychological or neurological profiles in a given society, you will likely find significant deviations from one culture to another, and probably even from region to region within the U.S. That said, most people who know me would probably agree that I'm pretty eccentric--I won't deny that. However, before you make any judgements about my mental health, it would probably be useful to have a little more background info about me.

      I'm a 20-year-old Asian male. I've been fascinated with computers for as long as I can remember. I started programming in QBASIC when I was in 4th or 5th grade, later moving on to Visual Basic. In middle school, my programming interests shifted towards the internet and world wide web. I began building webpages, teaching myself HTML and Javascript, and also started coding in Perl. As my focus turned towards web development in high school, I switched over to PHP and MySQL.

      Since then I've held various web-development-related jobs. I was employed as a webmaster for a short stint by a RAID-enclosure manufacturer when I was 16. They later laid me off and gave the job to a college grad--I don't really blame them; I was 16. After I graduated from high school, I began working for an independent metal label as a graphic designer and web developer. I've been working there on and off for the last two and a half years. While I attended UIUC, I also worked as a web developer for a media production company on campus in addition to being a web developer and database admin for the chem department. I've also done some freelance work on the side throughout the past 4 years.

      In high school, I was an honors/AP student, albeit an unmotivated one with fairly mediocre grades. For example, I took AP Calculus and AP Physics my junior year, and though I scored 5's on both AP Calculus AB and BC, as well as AP Physics B (they didn't offer AP Physics C at my school), I received 'C's in both my calc and physics class. But, while I wasn't a model student academically, I did participate in a lot of extracurriculars. Notably, I was very involved with Key Club, a service organization, and I also served as president of our school's chapter of Junior Statesment of America--a debate club of sorts. I was also the president of our school's web design club, participated in Academic Decathlon, and also tutored other students after-school 2-3 days a week. I also joined various student organizations when I was attending UIUC. I joined Circle K (college version of Key Club) there, and was also a member of Student Peace Action, and Students Improving the Lives of Animals.

      Outside of school I've also enjoyed working with Food Not Bombs, a non-profit organization which distributes food to the homeless, Tech Corps of Southern California, a non-profit service organization for IT professionals, and I also try to be active in the community in other ways. In addition to these things, I also read a lot (particularly works related to philosophy and sociology, but also fiction novels & poetry), I enjoy writing (poetry as well as prose), I play guitar, I snowboard, I paintball, I draw, and I occassionally even paint. What I don't do much is watch TV, or play videogames.

      So, while I don't consider myself "normal," I do think that I'm a fairly well-rounded person in that I try t

    2. Re:Only 3 LSD crazies? Wow. by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      Oh, and I made no mention of anyone going crazy from taking acid, so I don't know where you got "3 LSD crazies" from. Two of the three individuals I mentioned merely acted stranger than normal on a few occassions while they were under the influence of some mind-altering substance--in the first case it was alcohol & pot, and in the second case it was mushrooms. The third individual who has a history of mental illness in his family does indeed behave oddly after he took mushrooms, but I think calling all 3 of them crazy would be a bit of a hyperbole. None of them have ever taken acid so the label "LSD crazies," besides sounding like a phrase out of Reefer Madness or some other 30's prohibitionist propaganda film, is outright false.

    3. Re:Only 3 LSD crazies? Wow. by Domo-Sun · · Score: 1
      back up that claim with some kind of empirical evidence. My own experiences dispute it...

      I have to get empirical evidence, but you can rely on garbage evidence, which consists of you hanging out with a bunch of hippies, who by definition, are successful drug users, and you didn't find any that hate drugs? What a shock.

      You obviously don't understand how drug testing works. I don't have to prove to you that it's unsafe. You, and drug companies, have to prove that a drug is safe.

      Oh, and you link to some drug fanatic bringing up questions about other studies that link LSD to mental illness, and you jumped to the conclusion LSD doesn't cause mental illness. Bullshit. The evidence doesn't suggest that.
      Don't try to blame away.

      This isn't about blame. It's about cause and effect. I think you should look into what "etiology" means in the context of medical diagnosis. Just because Charles Whitman was prescribed Adderall before he stabbed his mother to death and climbed up that clock tower doesn't mean that Adderall causes mental illness. Similarly, if the incidence of schizophrenia in LSD users is the same as that of the non-LSD-using population, and schizophrenia patients who have used LSD have the same premorbid conditions as schizophrenics who haven't, then most-likely LSD does not cause schizophrenia.
      1.) There is no similarity to Charles Whitman here at all.

      2.) That's just a correlation. We also have a correlation to drug use and disorders that are listed in the DSM-IV, such as HPPD, depersonalization, and psychosis. LSD triggers or induces psychosis in apparently healthy people. That's all we need to know. You can explain that away however you like, but the evidence you're presenting is just a bunch of extreme skepticism, because you're in love with LSD. You're listening to what you want to hear. And let me just tell you that those points you find so persuasive are actually not. I don't have all day to explain it to you. Maybe read the post above for more points, amidst the insults.

      Anyway, what evidence is that? People who have schizophrenia are like people who have schizophrenia. They're crazy.
      Don't anyone take this guys opinion as fact, not when you're dealing with your body. Better safe than sorry.

      Sometimes it is better to be safe than sorry, but sometimes the risk is so remote that it doesn't make sense to worry about it. ... If everyone took your approach, then Ken Kesey would never have written One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Kary Mullis might not have won the Nobel Prize, Francis Crick might not have discovered the helical structure of DNA, and some of the greatest music the world has known would not exist today.
      Better Safe Than Sorry does not apply to everything, but it works here; and when handling guns, don't point them at your face, even when you think their empty; or when you think of taking that mystery substance off the street that some slashdot idiot told you to eat. The fact that you're comparing LSD use with writing music or winning a Nobel Prize is just ridiculous.

      Just about everyone has 'mental illness' in their family. And the likelihood of a negative experience on LSD is much higher than you suggest. Negative experiences are dose related too. They can last hours or decades.

      Young people are not wise enough to distinguish between your bullshit and true scientific data, so stop being so stupid an irresponsible. You obviously don't have any authority to be giving such advice on the topic, outside of being a druggie and an idiot.
    4. Re:Only 3 LSD crazies? Wow. by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      Rick Strassman isn't some drug fanatic, he's a lead researcher in the field of psychedelic drugs. And I linked to that webpage because it contained some pertinant excerpts from one of his papers.

      Aso, I wasn't "comparing" taking LSD to winning the Nobel prize. I was citing specific instances where Nobel prize winners who've used LSD have actually said that part of their inspiration came from their use of the drug.

      And it'd still be nice if you could cite atleast one particular study that supports your claims that LSD causes psychosis.

  196. I Knew it !! by wolf.sama · · Score: 1

    Zergs DO exist!

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  197. Self-awareness by Feye+Morgan · · Score: 1
    I'm inclined to believe that article. It makes me wonder what the 'goal' of the toxoplasma actually is in humans, and how it's linked with schizophrenia. What I'd like to know is if schizophrenia is the result of successful manipulation, or the result of a visible mental battle with the parasite. It makes sense that we wouldn't much notice overall, since creatures who are self-aware (like humans), would be able to ignore/reason away any 'manipulation' taking place much more readily than creatures who aren't self-aware (like grasshoppers, rats, etc.).

    And this question has probably been adressed before, but how exactly do such parasites know to induce such behaviour in their hosts? How exactly are they aware that clinging to a stalk of grass increases the likelihood of the host (ant) being eaten by a grazer? Has there been much research into that?

  198. Punk Rock Band by G�tz · · Score: 1
    I call dibs on using Toxoplasma as a name for my rock band.
    This band name is already taken by a Punk Rock band from Germany: http://www.toxoplasma.de/
  199. Sudan man forced to 'marry' goat by larry+bagina · · Score: 1


    A Sudanese man has been forced to take a goat as his "wife", after he was caught having sex with the animal.

    The goat's owner, Mr Alifi, said he surprised the man with his goat and took him to a council of elders.

    They ordered the man, Mr Tombe, to pay a dowry of 15,000 Sudanese dinars ($50) to Mr Alifi.

    "We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together," Mr Alifi said.

    Mr Alifi, Hai Malakal in Upper Nile State, told the Juba Post newspaper that he heard a loud noise around midnight on 13 February and immediately rushed outside to find Mr Tombe with his goat.

    "When I asked him: 'What are you doing there?', he fell off the back of the goat, so I captured and tied him up".

    Mr Alifi then called elders to decide how to deal with the case.

    "They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife," Mr Alifi told the newspaper.

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