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Firefox 1.0.1 Released
homeobocks writes "Firefox 1.0.1 has been officially released by the Mozilla Foundation, with some important security fixes. An announcement and release notes are available." Presumably this fixes the window injection vulnerabilities.
Have they released any info on new signups as a result of the Firefox 1.0 NY Times Advert?
serenity now!
From changelog: International Domain Names are now displayed as punycode.
(wiki linkage mine).
If the downloads for Firefox become overloaded today/tomorrow, Coral cache mirrors:
t =firefox-1.0.1&os=win&lang=en-US Windowst =firefox-1.0.1&os=linux&lang=en-US Linux
http://download.mozilla.org.nyud.net:8090/?produc
http://download.mozilla.org.nyud.net:8090/?produc
Let's say someone is finished browsing pr0n for the night and wants to clear the cache, history and cookies automatically on browser exit. Is this possible with Firefox via a setting or script?
from tfa:
You can now make links opened by other applications open into a new tab, reuse an existing tab, or open a new window.
Does it play well with Tabbrowser extension?
Usually any app that does this kills off my saved session. (grrrr).
Here's hoping.
And, isn't msi support supposed to be available?
(if it is there I did not see it)
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the breaking news about Mandrake acquiring Connectiva??
v2sw7CUPhw5ln6pr5Pck4ma7u7LFw0m6g/l7Di5e6t5Ab6TH.
Nope, the center column still goes off to the left.
Firefox 1.0.1 is supposed to have only security and stability fixes. Unless an unstable engineer feels insecure about Slashdot fans complaining about the Slashdot bug, I don't think it'll be fixed until Firefox 1.1.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Hello FUD.
From changelog:
International Domain Names are now displayed as punycode. To show International Domain Names in Unicode, set the "network.IDN_show_punycode" preference to false.
It's just no longer the default, which is what most have been crying for, right? Better security by default so our less web-savvy family and friends don't get owned online?
Oops. On further exploration, I see that it's fixed in the trunk, and the fix will be included in the 1.1 release (I guess must have misread that to say 1.0.1). In the meantime, there's always the SlashFix extension.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
It says no updates available... Do I need to actually update from the site?
It's about time they fixed those security issues. I was getting tired of using Internet Explore in the meantime.
Does the security fix remove internet explorer?
Any word on if this includes fixes for the massive memory leaks in the OS X port? I know they were on track for 1.1, but it's possible they could have made their way into 1.0.1......
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Yes, I tried with 1.0.1 too and it is fixed! Outstanding!
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I guess the parent means the code itself is displayed as opposed to the punycode results. It's tougher to spoof letters with Unicode when the punycode source is displayed instead. (...right?)
You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
... over at the burning edge.
nope
Candle burns its brightest in the dark
They removed default compatibility for international domain names. I wonder how much of an impact this will have on foreign adoption of Firefox over IE
None. IIRC they just turned off IDN support, and did not remove it. If someone needs it, the can turn it back on.
IE has no IDN support without third party software, so Firefox is still a better choice if you need IDN support.
The great advantage of having a reputation for being stupid: People are less suspicious of you.
Try this site: It shows a sarcastic popup saying "your browser has successfully blocked a popup!" http://www.indianmasala.com/
How insulting!
Here is the full list of changes and related bugs for Firefox 1.0.1.
You'll note that it's quite terse - this is not the 1.1 update from trunk that will get us rendering fixes, etc. that we'll see in June or so. Almost all security fixes here.
- Allen Pike
Altering time, one time at a time.
Your statement is misleading.
Support for IDNs is still present, it's just that after inputting a URL using an IDN domain name like http://www.göögle.com/, it is displayed as the punycore representation in the address bar: http://www.xn-ggle-5qaa.com/
The merits of this work around are certainly up for debate (hint: the debate started years ago).
Seeing as no currently shipping version of Microsoft Internet Explorer supports IDNs... you can probably stop wondering.On a side note, I didn't see any pop-ups on that page when using Konqueror 3.3.2.
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I submitted a feature request / bug report regarding the lack of a true "back" button which actually keeps a true page history instead of just a list of URLs (ideally the server would have no idea you hit "back" and would recieve no request at all).
It turns out problems like this are actually put there on purpose because banking sites have threatened to block Firefox if it doesnt do this.
As for why there's no about:config option, that's for Jesus to figure out.
-- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
If not, get this in the meantime:.
Be friendly to the Mozilla.org mirrors, they
have set up an official Bittorent seeder.
-Jed
( http://bittorrent.mozilla.org/ )
I didn't get pop-ups using FF1.0 or Safari.
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They are going to enable that in a few days, after those who know about the upgrade have cleared from the servers, lest they be fried.
This also happens with regular HTML pages w/o XSLT+XML when doing posts, in both IE and Firefox.
Anyone who has set up a dual boot system like myself, does anyone know if 1.0.1 Windows settings will still be compatible with 1.0 in linux?
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As I mentioned in the story, 1.0.1 contains fixes for 9 security holes, some of which allowed spoofing.
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Is anyone else getting the type a URL into the URL bar crash?
It doesn't matter what URL I try to enter, with tabs or without, *boom* it crashes.
My email addy? should be easy enough.
Just downloaded for Win2k; crashes on startup. Uh-oh!
I don't know about firefox, but using Mozilla-stable 1.7.3 on NetBSD-i386 all I got was a dialog box askign me if I wanted to set my pop-up preferences (which I hadn't yet).
I reloaded the site after setting the preferences and didn't get anything.
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Got to hoot and stamp their feet
in the heat from your physique" -King Crimson
Hopefully Slashdot will render correctly in this version.
Nice to see new releases, but some pop-ups still get through the pop-up blocker.
b) there's no patch - full install! it's a feature, not a bug
Why is that? Because of the possible security issues when used on a public computer?
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I wonder what version I'm using?
Even the original Mozilla, which is bloated, uses a mere 20,482K to open slashdot.org, while it can open up my loads of e-mail only using 24,223K of RAM. Using Thunderbird in addition to Firefox, since they don't share the same instance of the Gecko rendering engine, causes another 28,292K of RAM to be used. Internet Explorer 6 even with SP2, on the other hand, only consumes about 3,840K of RAM to open up slashdot.org, and Outlook Express only consumes 2,248K.
I recall it even being worse on Linux due to the fact that it loads quite a large amount of libraries with it, that runs slowly under older machines even under Fluxbox or the ultra-minimalist evilwm.
Whatever Firefox does, it should have made it a priority before the 1.0 Release to clean up the amount of RAM it abuses to do what it does. Even after waiting months for 1.01, it seems to have gotten worse than I recall, and I haven't put it in debug mode or developer mode or anything -- I disabled anything like that in the Custom Installation.
But fortunately, I've got 1GB of RAM, and there's barely any spyware, so I'm ok with it now. I just wish I didn't have to put either Dillo for Linux or IE6 on Win98 for those old late Pentium Is / early Pentium IIs I fix up for people in my spare time, since Firefox is a nice browser despite its flaws. Too bad it won't run decently on anything less than a Pentium III with 256MB of RAM.
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Wow, I'm guessing this was an attempt to be funny, but it missed so badly I had a hard time figuring out what it was trying to say. Thanks for the useful post.
I've gone back to 1.0 and there are no problems. here's a link to the windows 1.0 versions in case anyone else similarly needs to revert back.
In fact, it seems like it's a pop-up that pops another one.
But here, Firefox still blocked the first and the second one. I had to ask Firefox to show me the blocked windows to see what it was about and understand what you meant.
I'm still running 1.0 and it doesn't throw a popup. Is this bug platform-dependent or what?
No pop-ups at all for me, using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041209 Firefox/1.0, which is vanilla Firefox 1.0.
"Excuse me, did you say 'Trekker'? The word is 'Trekkie.' I should know; I created them." -- Gene Roddenberry
ah yes, the browser does complain about all those poorly coded sites that ie renders fine.
Thanks. I thought it was just me there that couldn't make any sense of this... Perhaps he's just confused, but IE does that to people, can't blame him.
Some of those self-same Slashdot fans are unstable engineers.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
No pop-ups in Firefox 1.0+ (nightly build). Good to know!
I'm gonna read about it tomorrow on Slashdot! Or maybe even later tonight!
Now if you're worried about putting too much strain on the Mozilla download servers, use the BT links!
Alternatively, this page lists translations and direct download links
I have been using Firefox on Slashdot for a long time and the rendering error have always been there on 90% of the time I load. After upgrading to 1.0.1 it seem to have been completely fixed for me. Thanks!
They upped the number of localized versions.
yeah, though there were also some notes about what information could be stored in cache, which I suppose might have something to do with spyware or viruses (*randomguess)
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So why is there a software update "Check Now" button in the FireFox options, when it doesn't find and install this? Is it a feature that has yet to be implemented, or is there some other configuration setting I need to do first for it to work?
Not that it's tough to manually download & install the update. It'd just be nice if I could tell my co-workers to "click on this button and it'll update itself."
I think a better approach to this issue would be an "intelligent" punycode display. For instance, if any ASCII character is respresented using IDN characters then AND ONLY THEN should punycode be used.
As I understand it, there is only one IDN representation of non ASCII characters, if the only characters using IDN are non ASCII, then the address cannot be spoofed. However if an ASCII character is being represented using IDN representation, then spoofing is likely taking place, switch to punycode. This would preserve the ease of use for end users (punycode url are incomprehensible however much more comprehensible than other things they may be) without affecting the security since unnecessary use of IDN codes would trigger the "fishy" flag.
What do you think? Does this approach make sense. If so what is the best way to transmit this view to Firefox developpers?
Of course, I could be out to lunch on this one too, since I don't know in detail how the IDN thing works.
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I would be interesting to see how many people download 1.0.1 over time vs 1.0. Statistically it would be hard to say how many people upgraded, didn't upgrade, first copy of firefox was 1.0.1 but, I would like to see the number seperately.
My mom had a job for awhile that used a mac and had been using firefox for awhile. I put camio(http://www.mozilla.org/products/camino/) on and it worked fine. It uses the mac gui, try that.
I wish they would fix the pen input problem on the tablet PC. I'd rather use firefox, but I'm stuck with IE until I can easily enter pen input into the browser fields.
It's nice to see so much enthusiasm in the computer world. Personally, I've loved Firefox. It's nice to have the same browser in both Windows and Linux. Got it late (about 2 months ago), but it's done me good. I couldn't go back to non-tabbed browsing and no nested searches window. Also, scanned with ad-aware today. Only two files!!! Both in IE cache from the few times I've had to use IE for ActiveX integrated sites. Used to think 500 was normal. Thanks Firefox, and I expect more good coming from this.
No popup using 1.0 for me. There's about 100 ways to configure all the popup stuff, so that's probably why some people get em and some people don't.
That's not actually a popup, it's just an image inside an with CSS "position: absolute". There's no way to stop this unfortunately, blocking absolute positioning would screw up a lot of site's layouts.
It blocks fine in 1.0 and 1.0.1.
Regards,
steve
Version 1.0 blocks it just fine AFAIK.
phpBB 2.0.11 was a 0.1 release that fixed a hole used to exploit a few thousand servers...
Uninstall Firefox, delete your C:\progra~1\Firefox folder, and then delete the extensions folder from your profile under C:\docume~1\(username)\applic~1\mozilla\firefox folder, and install Firefox 1.0.1. It'll work fine.
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Secondly, FF is NOT faster, despite the FUD that FF zealots like to spread. I've timed both and it takes FF several seconds longer to start up as well as to render a complex page.
/. story with browser speed comparison. Opera is faster, but IE is actually faster than Firefox in most operations.
Well said... Check previous
i got a pop-up, then added the site to adblock and voila, no more pop-ups (running 1.0.1)
always mosh clockwise
Have you seen the GrApple themes?
Über secks.
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It might be time for you to do a little more reading...
The issue isn't an ASCII letter being "represented using an IDN representation" in the way that you seem to imply.
It's a matter of an ASCII character being replaced with a unicode letter that LOOKS the same. It's not just a different way of encoding the same character, it's an entirely different letter that just LOOKS like the letter it is impresonating.
That's why it's called a homograph attack. :)
what is with the pop ups on drudge report, they have always been blocked before. How do you get rid of these new ones? The pop-up icon does not display like it normally does... arrgggg!
Sadly, this update doesn't fix the crashes I've been experiencing lately. Firefox crashes with me on certain URLs, especially those crappy xanga/myspace pages that are heavily-laden with video and sound. Before 1.0, I never experienced a crash. I make sure to submit the crash reports, though, so hopefully someone can figure out what's on.
The stats from that should give a good indication of how many of the 27MU downloads are being used.
Help fight continental drift.
It's just not on some mirrors.
Why not use the torrent?
It's only an insult if it's not true.
Windows users who have problems with Mozilla software (Firefox, Thunderbird or Suite) being too slow or using too much memory and CPU, check out the Moox optimized builds.
One of my friends reported having constantly about 100 MB more free memory after switching to Moox M2 in his Athlon XP. A bit of a warning though: I tried to install original 1.0.1 over Moox M2 1.0, and it now crashes every time I press enter in the URL bar. Now typing in Internet Explorer, I'm anxiously waiting for Moox optimized 1.0.1 builds to come out and solve the situation.
To show International Domain Names in Unicode, set the "network.IDN_show_punycode" preference to false.
Please tell me to do it there's a more intuitive way to do that in the GUI.
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blocked for me firefox 1.0.1
I read Slashdot multiple times each day, but there are certain news stories that really excite me. Firefox updates / information, as well as new Google features / sites.
:)
Of course, various other articles inerest me as well, but those excite me.
Too bad there weren't too many "visible" updates, however security is always a good thing!
Unfortunately, I can't update right now, I guess their servers are temporarily overloaded. I'll try later!
nope, not me.
I think this is newsworthy... Sure not much changed, but Firefox is something that brings us geeks together. It's OK to be excited about a new product/idea/program. Sure it might get a little cartoonish and people might celebrate every small detail. But why spoil our fun?
Goes to show you can't please everyone, I guess.
Mac guy: All these themes suck!Linux guy: Man, why can't we get those sexy mac themes?
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That's, um, not exactly a popup. That's a picture of a windows popup, in the webpage itself.
Somehow the illusion is less convincing when you use a Macintosh and you find yourself looking at a Windows XP window border...
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Funny, version 0.93 seems immune to popups from this site as well (Ubuntu rpm package -- didn't upgrade because full screen is broken on Gnome on vanilla firefox it seems).
..
I wonder if Ubuntu is backporting fixes to this ol' Firefox
Don't worry about the cache, as IIRC it's encoded such that it only means something to the browser
Not so. Type in "about:cache" (not the quotes). From there there are links to view the contents of the cache.
That's just dumb. For starters, you could limit the "true back button" to non-SSL-pages. I assume no sane bank is running plain http? Sounds more like sites are afraid something will break if the user is able to backtrack in the history.
That I can go back quickly is one of the reasons I run Opera, although unfortunately the the feature has deteriorated a little lately (a reload is initiated much more often now than any time before)
Belief is the currency of delusion.
Not here. FireFox 1.0.1 on Mac OS X.
I don't know what it is about my configuration, but even with stories earlier this week about various sites using pop-ups that can defeat Firefox's pop-up blocker, I haven't been able to get any of the referenced sites to send me a pop-up, even after 20 reloads.
Maybe it's Adblock. Or maybe it's the fact that I've disabled many of the Javascript features. Or that since v1.0 I had requested pop-ups redirected to open new tabs instead of a new window (and then, I'm only getting pop-ups that I've specifically clicked on and permitted).
Or, maybe I'm just very, very, very lucky. Nah!
Yaz.
Right now this story has 182 comments. That's more than any of the three stories before it on the slashdot front page, all of which are hours old.
Apparently a 0.0.1 release is newsworthy enough that people care more about it than at least three other things on the slashdot front page right now.
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It is noteworthy that the Windows installer is now equipped with a digital signature (by the Mozilla Foundation, with a root cert by Thawte). This might well have been done in response to a claim by a Microsoft manager that you don't know what you really get when you download Firefox (especially as there are so many mirrors).
Seriously, you need to spend a little more quiet time with google. +firefox +popup +blocking +tutorial
It's not hard. I see nothing except for the odd tiny fraction of css crap.
Fix it yourself because - 'they' - will never hold your hand until it works just nice and peachy the way you personally want.
If a site you like has more advertising than actual content, then maybe you need to go elsewhere. The net is a pretty big place, apparantly with lots of duplication...
Hmm, a handful of fairly minor security bugs. Makes you wonder why they're releasing a new version already..
0 .1.html)
..unless there's something else we haven't heard about yet..?
"More security holes fixed in Firefox 1.0.1 will be made public after Firefox 1.0.1 is released."
(from http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/1.
Here is an example how Firefox 1.0.1 shows IDN names.*
Click the Fake and Real link to see the difference.
The Fake site will not work with Internet Exporer with the latest service pack.
*Requires Firefox 1.0.1
I'm a virgo and on Slashdot. Coincidence? Yes.
It's in the java settings. Kill Java, kill the popups. Better yet, enable java for sites you need them in ONLY (like my home's router)
Congratulations on your choice of corporate software. Keep repeating your mantra to ensure the flow of happy-good feelings.
I wonder if you were truly proud of yourself, if you would feel the need to profess it so loudly. .
-FL
How is this going to affect the download stats? Will we now have double the numbers because everyone has to download it again?
Threatened to block if it doesn't do which - "true history", or "URL list" as it does now? Anyway, if you really need "true history", go File->Work Offline to keep it from reloading the page.
Quite hard, since the official changelog isn't updated yet. An unofficial one exists though, and two "Frame injection vulnerabilities" are fixed.a ses/1.0 .1.html
Links to the (unofficially) fixed bug-reports here:
http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/rele
I wonder if they've fixed Mozilla though.. it downloaded "bla.exe" without my knowledge two weeks ago (new build). bla.exe is an agent for "Trojan.Vundo". The firewall blocked its attempt to download the actual damaging code, but all the same - an unpeasant surprice.
no popups in Mozilla 1.8a6
(fresh install no adblock)
Or in my case, WinXP with decoration turned off. But, I bet once you click it, it does launch a pop-up, which would work for most users (Oh, a dialog box, click ok). In fact, since it's right over the main content, your pretty much required to click on it and get the pop-up, just to use the site.
How damn rude! I never used the site, but if a site I do use does that, they will lose a customer!
I just downloaded it. 3 tabs open (2 running Acrobat Reader), and only 35k of RAM held hostage.
The update works. Quit yer bitchin'.
My digital rights don't need management.
It would make more sense to me if, rather than it were dependant on the popup code, the browser simply locked its internal function call that spawns a new window, unless the site is authorised to do that...
You mean it's not done that way?
I decided I'd help seed, I have a box on a couple of OC-3s, why not? Well, so far it's doing jack. The download proceeded to complete in a couple of seconds at the rate of 500kb/sec and since then I've sent out almost no data. Their download server is apparantly top notch and needs no assistance.
Also, the Linux torrents seem broken, BT won't open them.
Err.. network.IDN_show_punycode is a pref added in this version. So its not that the simply changed the default, they added a pref for those who wish to not use punycode.
Firefox uses a ton of RAM on Windows too. One of it's flaws, it seems, at least as compared to IE. I don't much care, it's cheap to throw RAM at the problem and it hardly rates as the most RAM hungry app I have, however it seems to be a complaint I've heard a lot from more than just Mac users.
Please tell me to do it there's a more intuitive way to do that in the GUI.
Why? Do you want to be vulnerable to the spoofing attacks?
The default behaviour of this setting is to display the URLs so that spoofing won't work, if you are a foreign reader you can set this once and forget about it.
For the majority of users the default setting is fine, and safe.
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I have java enabled and I don't get popups either. I think it's flash that gives the popups. I don't install flash and I don't get popups. I've also noticed that other site that people complain about pops have flash...
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How do we know we're actually downloading the 1.0.1 release, when the download filename is "Firefox Setup 1.0.exe". The update feature under Tools, Options, doesn't work either (as mentioned above). If they're going to release a point release, then how about updating the web site to reflect that? Otherwise, people that might not have seen the announcment might browse by one day, and think "oh, it's still 1.0, I'll stick with what I got". And since the update feature seems to be dead at the moment, that's very baaaaad.
Excellent point. +1 Insightful (pretend it's a mod point.)
Just because you "sign" your post "computer expert" doesn't mean you are one...
-God
What I am asking about at the moment is the exact process of changing the setting away from the default. If you have to at any point ever type the words "network.IDN_show_punycode" to change a basic preference this is not acceptable UI.
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Firstly, don't plagarise. Cite your sources. Your list is an exact copy of http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/1.1 .html.
Secondly, if you do plagarise, make sure you steal the right frigging document! You posted a changelog for the not-yet-released Firefox 1.1. This is Firefox 1.0.1. Its changelog can be found at http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/1.0 .1.html.
if it /does/ do "true history", they would block it. I dont think they care what alternative is available, they just dont want people to be able to use the back button to actually show what was seen before. You know, like a back button.
-- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
PLEASE get it straight!
IE on WinXP SP2 with IE's pop-up blocker set to "high" also blocks it.
That's a good point about SSL. But really the main problem is that whenever you get a message that says "The page you have requested required POST data blah blah blah", you should get a "just go back" option in addition to "re-send POST data" and "don't go back"- in my mind it is pretty much encouraging people to do things which you never want to do on a banking site. If you completed your transaction, need to go back because you need the transaction number for records or such, you NEED a real back button, and you most certainly do NOT want to re-send data. That is to say: Really the whole idea of banking sites wanting to block this is backwards, because financial situations are the primary reason for wanting this.
I ran opera until I started using gmail and opera started crashing all the time in Linux. *(that is, my installation of Opera on my installation of Linux, I have no general information, I just couldnt run Opera in linux anymore). I loved its real back button.
-- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
Actually you don't need 1.0.1 to see how it works; spoofstick on 1.0 displays the bogus URL as xn--blah-blah-blah...
All's true that is mistrusted
I'm a FreeBSD user who occasionally uses a Windows box, yet I'm a Firefox user. Hmmm, what does that make me? According to your logic, Netcraft confirmed that I'm a dying, Microsoft shill.
Real computer users use the best tools available. Us real computer users that actually have jobs will not waste their time and efforts with insecure, buggy, non-standards compliant software like Internet Exploder.
Have fun cleaning out your machine for spyware for the umpteenth time.
Really?
What update was that. On my fresh WinXP install, to get the latest IE from microsft, I downloaded the bare minumum to only get the latest IE updates and not all the OS patches, I was still learking at around 30megs, I'd love to see a 3meg patch for IE that actually fixes multiple security issues.
I'm not trying to throw FX down your through, I just think the parent comment has no validity whatsoever.
Cheers
I wish they were! :-( No, all 100% genuine from my third in a row attempt to install fresh Firefox. I guess I'm stuck with 1.0 PR until 1.1 comes out.
Burn, karma, burn...
My other Beowulf cluster is... er...
I'm starting to question what ppl call a "popup". I had flash on and java /et all OFF and no "real" popups/unders, but had them with it on. What do U think?
You can also simply set the number of days in the History option under privacy to 0. An even better idea is to start firefox with the -profilemanager commandline paramater, create a special profile called somthing such as "noprofile", and set all the cache, history, cookies etc... to not be stored. You can then make a script/shortcut file that runs "firefox -profile noprofile" which will load that profile.
You can do things such as put an obviouly diffrent skin on it to make sure you arn't running the wrong profile and install flashgot to allow you to grab entire image/movie gallerys.
You can have a custom adblock filter list to remove nonrelevant images such as those backgrounds, banners and image borders that sites have which slows down your browsing.
Under linux I have everything setup to use an highly encrypted filesystem so nothing can be accessed without the password, if you have your images, firefox profile, and its starting script in there then noone will beable to find anything also because its encrypted and only accessable by you, you can leave the history to be saved and create bookmarks etc. Just remember to unmount the filesystem and clear the loopback device.
cat
I've been seeding these for about 1/2 hour with only 30mb uploaded (--max_uploads 100) - I'm sure there's a lot of people seeding, but it would have been great to see a link to the BitTorrent mirror page in the news post to spare the mirrors. I can't figure out why more slashdot news posts aren't edited when there is a BitTorrent link added for the content referred to in the item (especially when its an official torrent provided by the content creators!)
I wonder if they thought of using bittorrent to download the latest update. Or does bittorrent not scale to 27m users? :)
You could always have a seperate tracker for each country or each major region.
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Why doesn't firefox just check the current locale of the user, and if there are characters outside that locale, make the address bar red and display a warning similar to the popup blocker one.. a bar across the top of the screen.
Or maybe even better would be to only do the red address bar thing if there are characters from two seperate locales.
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 24, @10:35PM (#11773968) Firefox Sucks! It's so slow to load. Much slower than IE. It doesn't even render pages properly. IE has always been perfect. What's this about Firefox vulnerabilities? IE with SP2 is much safer. Who uses Firefox? Only Linux zealots, hippies, and Mac users. Real computer users use IE. Us real computer users that actually have jobs will not deal with third-class software like Firefox. The moderating system did not hinder me from posting this. -Computer Expert.
Rofl
Who comes up with this stuff?
is it ok to install 1.0.1 over 1.0? will all security fixes be properly applied? (do i need to clear user profiles? i hope not)
will 1.0 be removed from the add/remove programs?
sorry if i should have RTFAQ but it doesn't seem to go into detail. I am capable of backing up the necessary dirs and doing this myself, but i'm really asking so i know how to best instruct other users & for future releases. many thanks!
*why oh why are they in the program files dir, not the user profile? who sets permissions for users to install to this dir, or tells users to log on as admin to install search plugins?
also, a note that the GB (that's Great British) edition does not yet seem to be out. darn, i'm back to en-US ;) and where's our en-NZ edition, Ben :) cheers
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As Bittorrent has become so popular one has to wonder why FF doesn't support it natively or via plug-in as a download method.
I don't know why everyone's taking this seriously... it's a joke. It has to be a joke. Someone's sense of humor is too subtle for the slashdot crowd, maybe?
If it's not, I'm laughing anyway.
"Fix it yourself because - 'they' - will never hold your hand until it works just nice and peachy the way you personally want."
I'm sure a good deal of Firefox's acceptance can be attributed to developers/people in the know not having that shitty attitude.
Do you drive by stranded motorists and scream at them for not being mechanics?
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Still no new verse in The Book of Mozilla.
Memory cache device
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Number of entries: 208
Maximum storage size: 31744 KiB
Storage in use: 7436 KiB
Inactive storage: 7127 KiB
List Cache Entries
Disk cache device
Number of entries: 312
Maximum storage size: 50000 KiB
Storage in use: 18025 KiB
Cache Directory: C:\Documents and Settings\Development\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\fd8vwgvl.default\Ca
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
If you must use IE , then get MYIE, it has a firefox type front end to the IE engine, and gives all cool extra feature in it. Some perhaps that FF could steal.
Its a good compromise if you MUST still use IE at work or banking sites.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
It's a hidden preference. It's not supposed to be exposed in the GUI. Go to about:config and look at all the hidden prefs. If they all had a front-end, the preference window would look like, well, the mozilla suite.
Think about it for a second. Your browser allows identical-to-the-eye domain names via a spoofing security issue. Your workaround is to put big "!!!" marks before and after the domain name when it's possible that the user could be spoofed. But really, some people would rather take the risk of getting tricked than have to look at those damn exclamation marks, so you give them a hidden preference.
Would you, a user interface designer, put this pref in the Options panel? If so, where would you put it?
If you answered yes to the first question, where would you put browser.blink_allowed? I'm sure somebody somewhere wants that pref exposed. How about browser.chrome.site_icons? "Man, if those little per-site icons don't drive me crazy. I wish I could turn them off, and heaven forbid I type the word chrome, because that's just not acceptable UI."
Without looking, can you tell me 5 of the options listed in IE's Advanced tab in it's options pane? Since you can't, does that make it good UI that they've exposed those prefs to the user? Don't you think that allowing a "hidden" feature, about:config, to play with all the prefs is an acceptable compromise to facilitate a simple, yet effective UI?
People like you are reasons why the suite is what it was a year ago. People like Ben Goodger are the reasons why Firefox is objectively better than the suite for almost all people.
If you've read this far, maybe you would read the Firefox Charter, with their stated goals.
Get Firefox!
Well, to be more precise: memory leak or not, Linux and Windows versions are 10x more stable.
Firefox on my Powerbook crashes at least once a day, it has problems with Flash and Java applet visualization I've never had on other platforms, JavaScript and FireFox windows (such as those from extension prefs) sometimes just don't do anything when you click on them, many search bar plugins simply crash the whole app, many extensions just don't work and/or make your favorites disappear (TabBrowser Preferences, for one.) Finally, I get the beach ball cursor way too often (meaning the application won't respond.)
I've never had any of that on other platforms. The OS X port is way behind the quality of other OS's, to the point I have been giving up FF and using Safari before 1.0 came out. Not that it has fixed much, it's just that I missed my extensions too much...
I love this line:
* 217527 - Left column on Slashdot is sometimes too narrow or too wide for its contents.
Nice to know the FireFox folks are regularly reading Slashdot!
(waves to FireFox developers - you guys are doing great work)
1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d Capitalization really works: i helped my uncle jack off a horse
Yeah, same here on OS X and FF 1.0.
I have AdBlock, too, but it's really not very strict - it's only blocking an ad with "/RealMedia/ads/" in it, so maybe it's that one?
JavaScript enabled, though.
Its still broke
every other time its off.
Just so you know, if you're going to reinstall from scratch, I already read the EULA and no; there's no $1000 prize.
CowsAnonymous: We're here to help moo.
...Make us download the files from the same place as the unwashed masses? Man, go back to linking to rough and ready nightly CVS snapshots ok! :-) ;-)
:D heheh :D have a good day everyone.
Congrats FF peeps, I hope the popup blocking works now... will install at work, fusk that pute first, then try at home.
#hostfile 0.0.0.0 primidi.com 0.0.0.0 www.primidi.com 0.0.0.0 radio.weblogs.com
Nope, that change log is ripped from the unofficial incomplete Firefox 1.1 release notes at Burning Edge. As wrong as you can be.
0 .1.html
Try this instead:
http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/1.
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...in Japan?
IIRC they just turned off IDN support, and did not remove it.
They didn't even turn it off, just the "pretty printing" part of it when presenting the entered URL. If you type www.räksmörgås.se you can be sure to be transferred to the proper site as usual, also in 1.0.1 without fiddling with settings.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Anyone notice that the aboutbox still says
(c) Copyright 1998-2004
Wenn ist das Nunstueck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput.
I cannot identify your operating system. I'm not quite sure what "Start" is, but it looks fairly primative and that could be causing you some issues. Why don't you just get on the bandwagon and start using Linux or MacOS XI?
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Hopefully there will be some fixes in the linux version. For some reason, when I click on .rpm files, the download dialog OK button is grayed out... (no, I don't think it's an omen)
When you look at the state of the world, how can you not become a radical, liberal anarchist?
The site uses Javascript to detect the (non)existance of the popup window to unhide a div. So disabling Javascript does indeed get rid of this issue - and an unfortunately large amount of useful functionality. Ah, well.
You're special forces then? That's great! I just love your olympics!
sheesh - you'd think you'd been told to do it with emacs. This is how "to do that in the GUI":
type "about:config" in the address bar. Hit enter.
scroll down to "network.IDN_show_punycode" (hint: it's alphabetical). Right-click on it and select "modify".
An input dialog will pop up saying "enter boolean value" or some such. The text field will say "true". Change that to "false". Click "OK".
All done.
"Our interests are to see if we can't scale it up to something more exciting," he said.
They need to fix the links asap.
The 'Free Download' link at http://www.mozilla.org/ is for 1.0 not 1.0.1
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Well, the error message says that we should complain to Microsoft about it. Maybe the installer program was made by Microsoft ? Can we start wild speculation about a conspiracy and/or Microsoft bashing now ?
BTW. MODERATORS ! Parent is propably not troll. There is no evidence that these screenshots were forged. Please understand the difference between legitimate conplains and trolling before moderating. Thank you.
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
Really wish they would have fixed the search function for websites that use frames. Searching the sun javadocs with firefox has proven to be a very frustrating experience...
Any fixes/plugins out there to patch this?
Pressing the "reload" button always fix the /. rendering for me.
I just tried it and it doesn't on my system. (Windows XP SP2, Firefox 1.01)
You missed the point by a wide margin. I was not trolling, software will always be a few steps behind the advertisers, the only way to stay in front is to 'learn', rather than 'depend'
Stopping popups in firefox with a tiny amount of tweaking is insanely simple - there are numerous tutorials about it.
Your last: I do drive by and admonish them if they are placing either themselves, myself, or other motorists in danger with their actions. If I can assist by pushing the 'problem' off to a safer location, I will.
My attitude is not shitty, it is simply intolerant of people who fail to help themselves in the face of such overwhealming documentation.
Wow.. :)
Where did you get the setup from? Just asking because the image has references to 2004-09-10 (Seamonkey 1.7.3 branch?)
Since Firefox 1.0 was ~1.7.5, that would mean it's a pre-1.0 installer... Maybe try re-downloading it? Or from a different mirror?
I could be way out of line if it is partly Firefox's fault, so sorry if that's the case...
Of course FireFox patches only fix Firefox, becuase that is all it is. That also means any problems in it only affect Firefox.
Ask anyone with a clue about computer security and they will tell you that is a good thing, unlike IE flaws causing problems all over the place becuase it is integrated into windows. It isn't like using Firefox stops you using windows update you know.
It definately is slower to start, as IE is loaded up when windows is. You don't notice IE's start up time as a seperate thing. As for spped in use, it depends on what the page is, images, script, CSS, complex layout and so on as too which one is faster.
I'm sure we will see lots of security updates for it, although so far it doesn't seem close to IE in terms of patches. I've never seen anyone claim it wouldn't need security updates. The argument has always been as open source the security would be better and the updates quicker.
I do suspect you a really a troll.
When I install >0.9.3 here at work I find that I can not left click on anything... Bizarre!
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
So the Firefox code will display the same HTML in two different ways on different occasions. How can this be anything other than a bug in Firefox?
I noticed a distinct increase in stability on OSX since I started using Adblock. I tend to surf with a single window loaded with up to 40 tabs, and it works like a charm. The frequent crashes of older versions are now history for me, although I still keep the habit of periodically saving a tab group bookmark just in case.
If you're new to Adblock, remember that for it to actually do something you'll have to configure some filters . I tend to use these regularly updated filters).
Adblock doesn't fix the "popups from links" problem, and neither does Firefox 1.0.1. To see them in action, go to Zophar's Domain (an emulation site) and click on any link in the sidebar.
...they also had a big advert in the most important german newspaper "faz". http://www.zeitform.de/download/041202-firefox-faz -anzeige.pdf
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Uh, okay. So they use Oprah.
Look. You use a piece of software made by a corporation with zero ethics and two and a half stars out of five for progamming acumen. And nobody really cares, so quit yelling about it. If you can only take pride in your choices by thumping your chest and making half-assed arguments, then you have more pressing issues to deal with than which browser you use.
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there is also a reference to the bug number and a (workarround)fix. Seems to be a timing bug.
I don't think I'll be upgrading untill they release FF 1.1. Reinstalling all my extensions and tweaking around in aboug:config to get everything the way I like it is too much trouble and installing over an old install tends to cause problems.
Dude, I added ads.rediff.com to my adblock list (on instinct, really) and didn't get a damn popup.
actually, (with 1.0.1 semi-officially released?) there's already files marked 1.0.2 on the ftp, like here, and in folders for the last couple of days. hmm any news on this, anyone? no one seems to have mentioned it. sorry if this is uh, a secret of some sort.
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Are there plans to integrate this into the firefox update mechanism? Because that would be a logical approach (a lot of auto-updates occur at the same kind time - over a day or two), and lets face it, hellacool :-)
Wouldn't it make more sense to do it the other way around? Make the update available first, then after some time make the new, complete package available.
By releasing packages before the update is made available, you are almost asking for current users of Firefox 1.0 to download the full 1.0.1, which will result in a higher load on your servers.
Doesn't look like 1.0.1 to me, either. I can't find 1.0.1 on the site. They get an "F" for usability, since I was not able to complete my task of upgrading.
The installer is relatively new in the scheme of things, though it does seem to be the only version you can get your hands on easilly.
Win32 zip distribution:l eases/1.0.1/win32/en-US/Firefox 1.0.1.zip
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
Torrent of the same:l eases/1.0.1/win32/en-US/Firefox 1.0.1.zip.torrent
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/re
Installed and everything just works! Adblock and all of my themes!
Is anyone else using the Solaris/SPARC Firefox release? With every version up to and including 1.0 I've had severe problems when typing into the browser, either into the URL bar or HTML form entries. It seems to be in some kind of "advanced text entry" mode whereby hitting one key straight after another will do funny things - for example hitting "co" quickly produces a copyright symbol, not what I want if I'm going to a .com or .co.uk URL!
Similarly, typing "th" produces a Greek symbol (teta?), and the space bar just plain won't work unless I leave a gap of about two seconds between characters, which I find quite hard since I type very quickly..
This doesn't happen in any other Solaris app for me, by the way, so I don't think it's a Solaris setting - sounds like something has been turned on in Firefox that I don't want. It would be nice if there was a good way to turn it off.
I've actually had to type this message in xemacs and then paste it into the browser because of this problem.
Q.
adblock seems to stop the ad though :-)
I wonder if adblock will ever be idiot proof though, or if it will create a smarter class of users. as you have to learn about wildcards if you wnat to use adblock effectivly.
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As of now, my torrent session for Firefox Setup 1.0.1.exe has 204 seeds and 2 peers. That is the best ratio I've ever seen... just more proof that Firefox users are some of the most conscientious netizens around.
Usually caused by installing over an unpacked .zip build.
You need to delete <install directory>/components/autocomplete.xpt and try again.
Please tell me to do it there's a more intuitive way to do that in the GUI.
It is a stop-gap to avoid having to disable IDNs altogether (Hint: Perfect spoofing, even if only on some fonts is not acceptable). I'm sure there'll be better ways to both display it and configure it in the near future. Since IE doesn't support it, it's not like it is a must-have feature... 90% of the market couldn't use them anyway.
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Just by typing a query (anything) into the search bar. Any query at all, including a blank one. It's set to Google for whatever that's worth. The second most-used feature of FF for me, doesn't work. Windows version. Dunno if it's the same on Linux.
What is humor if not pain tempered by time?
Software package management is the job of the operating system, not the specific application.
Right at the start of the release notes for Firefox 1.0.1 it says "Prior to installing Firefox 1.0.1, please ensure that the directory you've chosen to install into is clean and doesn't contain any previous Firefox installations.". Lots of folks (like me) who download and run the Windows installer have found that Firefox shows up multiple times under installed programs. The only way to clear out previous versions is to uninstall all versions and manually delete files and clear the install directory.
This is imporatnt to coprorate folks who may be using an asset or build tracking system to track adoption of software products. You get bad data if a PC shows that it has multiple versions of any program installed.
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
It is usually caused by installing over an unpacked .zip build.
You need to delete <install directory>/components/autocomplete.xpt and try again.
The fix is checked in for Firefox 1.0.2
So do they allow you to upgrade from 1.0 to 1.0.1? All I read is this:
"Prior to installing Firefox 1.0.1, please ensure that the directory you've chosen to install into is clean and doesn't contain any previous Firefox installations."
So why do I want to uninstall my old version prior to installing a new version? Can they not handle a simple upgrade?
(Seriously, I'm asking a question. I like Firefox, so this isn't flaimbait.)
Browsing the changelog, I stumbled over this site, which lists security fixes in Firefox, Thunderbird and Mozilla Suite. One line I found interesting was in the Thunderbird section:
MFSA 2005-10 javascript: links launch Internet Explorer
The standard clearly says that going back and forth should not reload the page. You should be able to page like it's a book.
And, if banks care about this, they're on crack. First of all, people don't expect things to change when they go back and forth. If people flip back to before a transaction, they rather expect it not to have happened. People do not map backwards and forwards to space, they map it to time. (If they did map it to space, it would be screwed up anyway, because you can magically go in circles while walking forward and backward.)
Second, having them change causes as much problems as otherwise. (Double posting, double 'delete fourth record', etc etc.)
Third, if they really want to stop it, they could use a meta tag saying not to cache the page. Um, duh.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
I just upgraded from 1.0PR to the real 1.0 Wednesday...
Secession is the right of all sentient beings.
My install of 1.0.1 on my Windows box at work crashes if I execute a search in the search engine field. Doesn't matter what search engine I choose. Anybody else experiencing this?
Here's the Bugzilla discussion on that:
5 5
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2367
You have to copy and paste that, of course.
It happens if I type an address into the URL field and hit enter as well. I just thought I'd see if it was my setup (likely) or if others were experiencing the problem as well.
WebWasher (Windows only) blocks whatever you are talking about, and a half dozen other ads on that page.
/.)
It is great software, and just changed to "donation-ware" the other day, so go download it.
More "techy" than other blockers I have seen, and so is very customizable. I haven't seen a popup or ad in years (other than the coffee porn posted the other day on
Maybe this release will fix the reason I went back to .91 (and I run Linux): .wmv in mplayer
- random crashes, including one or two that
may have panicked my system, or crashed
KDE on my wife's
- the frequent loss of file associations
- not wanting to run
(and NO BLOODY WAY to manually tell
it what I wanted something opened in)
mark
the >2GB yields negative file size and download speed bug (t3h bug). Looks like it won't happen until v1.1.
I pity the foo that isn't metasyntactic
Apparently the Linux version of Firefox received quick "hotfixes" for the variety of security flaws that cropped up in Firefox 1.0, but the Mac version, at least, did not receive a single security update until today with this release, and it appears that there are still some remaining old and unfixed security flaws. The oldest being from August and September of 2004. While still much better than Internet Explorer, it doesn't make for a particularly stellar security patching record by any means. Not on the Mac anyway. Did the Windows version receive timely "hotfixes" for these flaws? What about the remaining unpatched flaws? To be fair, they did fix the IDN flaw quicker than Apple, which has yet to release a fix for their Safari?, but that's a first.
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nice that there's another release for all those who prefer not to grab the nightly builds... the speed with which bugs are fixed is nothing short of impressive...
Get your torrents...
This is the first upgrade I've seen in years that was smaller in file size than the previous version...how nice!
It is NOT a pop up. It doesn't "pop up" because it's not a fucking pop up window, it's just an image overlaid on top of the page. If you want to block it you will need an adblock rule to block the offending Javascript or div layer, period.
Does Mozilla suffer from being too US-centric? If Mozilla was, say, Japanese, surely they wouldn't have accepted a fix like that?
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Browse ftp.mozilla.org for a zip file of Firefox. No need for any crappy installer program. :)
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Well, just to ensure I haven't confused anybody, I do not have Javascript disabled. I've just used Firefox's advanced options to prevent certain Javascript functions from working, including raising and lowering windows, moving and resizing windows, removing the status bar, and changing the status bar. But that's it. Otherwise, Javascript is completely enabled.
Yaz.
I'd probably start using Safari if I could get away from my favorite feature, type-ahead =/
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Find While Typing works great, and there's more goodness on that little page.
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Which reminds me:
If I want to use both the email client and the browser, would I be better off installing FireFox+ThunderBird or the full Mozilla suite?
Can the suite use the FF/TB plugins?
Bill Gates?
and it still doesn't render Slashdot properly!
All you fanboys can put your pitchforks down now.
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(also, can anyone please tell me what the "l10n" in "latest-aviary1.0.1-l10n" means?)
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Win32 release is signed with Mozilla certificate using M$ Authenticode technology.
Rediculous is ridiculous!
OK, but we kind of already know which UniCode characters look like the ASCII characters. Which means that whenever those characters (and only those) are used that's when spoofing is likely. If the UniCode characters represent non-ASCII characters, there is no more risk of spoofing than with punychode itself, since www.thisissomeurl.com can look similar to www.thisissomeur1.com and be used for phishing anyways wether we use punycode or not. Some amount of phishing will always take place because in a long url, the brain will tend to assume what the next letter is.
I like my dinosaurs feathery, and my pterosaurs hairy (or is it pycnofibery?)
I think you missed his point... you have to ask yourself, for what audience was FireFox intended?
/., so at the very least you can assume he's somewhat technically inclined. However, for the mass market audience that FireFox targeted, I can almost guarantee that none of them are interested in hunting for documentation for a problem that they probably can't even articulate.
Granted, the parent of this thread reads
Last but not least, intolerant attitudes don't help anybody.
Looks like MOOX is making optimized versions of the different localisations! Here is the direct link: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/localizedbuilds.ht m