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'Transformers' Live Action Movie from DreamWorks?

mr_don't writes "Apprently, CNN is reporting that Dreamworks might be in talks with Michael Bay (who directed the bomb Pearl Harbor) to direct a live action Transformers movie. The article says: A November 17, 2006, release date has been set. Bay's credits include the two "Bad Boys" movies, "Pearl Harbor," "Armageddon" and "The Rock." Well, as a child of the 80's I must admit I am interested, but could the movie be directed by Robert Rodriguez instead?"

432 comments

  1. There is more than meets the Eye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why would anyone watch a movie about a giant spool of wire?

    1. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by pmazer · · Score: 1

      I don't get it... anyone care to explain?

    2. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by n.wegner · · Score: 1

      A transformer is a couple giant spools of wire wrapped around an iron (or at least magnetic) core.

    3. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by UnixRevolution · · Score: 3, Informative

      An electrical transformer changes the voltage and amperage of an electric current by induction between 2 dissimilar (usually different winds) spirals of copper wire.

      Much, much more info here.

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    4. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by Anonymous+Meoward · · Score: 1

      ..because.. We Care A Lot. [ shows age, ducks ]

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    5. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by michael+path · · Score: 1

      Well, it's a dirty job but someone....had to make the FNM reference.

    6. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mean "DVD is," or is that a possessive like "DVD has..." /against the improper use of apostrophes

    7. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by aesiamun · · Score: 1

      ..about you people, yeah you bet we care...YEAH!

    8. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by Mandoric · · Score: 2, Informative

      Biting the offtopic AC hook, because work is boring.

      It really depends on what kind of experience you're looking for---relatively few (sane) people are into anime because it's anime; more are into particular genres that happen to be more commonly produced in animation, or into Japanese or Asian mass-media in general, of which anime's the easiest to obtain in the US.

      That said, with a few assumptions about genres you might like given that you're posting on Slashdot, here's a somewhat recentish list.

      If you're looking for something like the cartoons of your youth, but with a bit more depth and darkness: Go for Full Metal Alchemist, currently running on TV in the US.

      Running immediately after that is the cyberpunk cop show Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. It's significantly less action-oriented than the movie it's a sequel to.

      If you're looking for a war miniseries with sci-fi elements, try Gundam 08th MS Team. Gundam is an overhanging series name comparable in runtime and quality variance to Star Trek; while you may've caught various incarnations on TV that tried to be a gallery of prettyboys, a kung-fu movie, or a rehash of the original, 08th MS Team can be best summed up as "'Nam with Huge Robots".

      On a similar basis, but with a heavier focus on the political end of things, Zeta Gundam is a good suggestion, but it's a heavy investment at $150 or more for the whole 2-season TV series at once. A film trilogy is currently being produced in Japan, but it's incomplete, with no US release date set, and will have a variety of story changes to make it "less depressing".

      Record of Lodoss War is a classic high fantasy show---to give some idea of the style, it's based on a series of novels based on the author's D&D campaign. There are two different iterations; the one to go for, in my opinion, is the two-disc direct-to-video version, rather than the 4-disc TV version. ... And there's quite a bit more out there, but those are the apparent best bets genre-wise. Beyond that, the only real advice I can give is a pointer to a good review site, and the buying advice that, if you're getting an extremely good deal from an online store or auction, it's 99% likely that the product in question is bootleg and you'd be better off just bittorrenting it.
      (Without even going into the moral issues of copying or of paying a third party to copy for you, the video and translation qualities typically suck donkey balls.) /puts on his "I spent 15 minutes typing and all I got was -1, Offtopic" shirt

    9. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by flyingsquid · · Score: 1

      When I was a kid I really wanted a Transformer, so I asked my parents for one for Christmas. Well, my mom liked to shop at an upscale department store that didn't carry this kind of stuff, and so when she asked to for "transformers" they took her to the model railroad section of their toy department...

    10. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by xfmr_expert · · Score: 1

      I would! I'm a transformer (the electrical kind, not the bloody shape-changing toy) nerd.

    11. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NINJA SCROLL !!!

      Best Anime Ever....

    12. Re:There is more than meets the Eye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      /against the improper use of apostrophes
      Confer, on the other hand, Chicago Manual of Style, sect. 7.16:
      To avoid confusion, lowercase letters and abbreviatians with two or more interior periods or with both capital and lowercase letters form the plural with an apostrophe and an s.

      x's and y's
      M.A.'s and Ph.D.'s
  2. Cast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope Bender gets to play Optimus Prime.

    He could be made for that role.

    1. Re:Cast by Shkuey · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I am Optimus Prime, please insert liquor!"

    2. Re:Cast by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Ahh, you Autobots are such chumps. I'm gonna get a hookerbot, so kiss my shiny metal ass."

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    3. Re:Cast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fail it.

      "I am Optimus Prime, please insert girder!"

    4. Re:Cast by Jonny_eh · · Score: 1

      "I came to Earth with a dream, a dream to kill all Decepticons"

    5. Re:Cast by G-funk · · Score: 1

      It's bite my shiny metal ass.

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    6. Re:Cast by beerman2k · · Score: 1
      It's bite my shiny metal ass.
      I thought it was byte my shiny metal ass?
  3. Directed by.. by Cruithne · · Score: 5, Funny

    could the movie be directed by Robert Rodriguez instead?

    I dunno, Michael Bay could be more than meets the eye...

    1. Re:Directed by.. by mstra · · Score: 1
      Michael Bay could be more than meets the eye...

      No, he's less. I've looked into his eyes. He's pure evil.

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    2. Re:Directed by.. by Sperryfreak01 · · Score: 0

      They should get Micheal Moore to direct it, He could elude that Megatron was G.W.

    3. Re:Directed by.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or is that "allude"?

    4. Re:Directed by.. by dmf415 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Quentin Tarantino could do it! Oil and tranny fluid spilling EVERYWHERE!

    5. Re:Directed by.. by mcslappy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Optimus Prime:
      I've killed a hell of a lot of robots to get to this point, but I only have one more. The last one. The one I'm flying to right now. The only one left. And when I arrive at my destination, I am gonna kill Megatron.

    6. Re:Directed by.. by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, on Cybertron, you can buy energon in a movie theatre. And I don't mean in a paper cube either. They give you a glass of energon, like in a bar. On Paris, you can buy energon at MacDonald's. Also, you know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese on Unicron?

    7. Re:Directed by.. by sgant · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I have to see another movie directed by this hack with "the hero or villian walks in slow-motion toward the camera while bombs/explosions go off in the background" I will stop watching movies.

      Gems from Pearl Harbor:

      Rafe: Danny, you can't die. You can't die. You know why? 'Cause you're gonna be a father. You're gonna be a daddy. I wasn't supposed to tell you. You're gonna be a father.
      Danny: No, you are.


      And:

      Rafe: You are so beautiful it hurts.
      Evelyn: It's your nose that hurts.
      Rafe: I think it's my heart.


      Plan 9 from Outer Space had better dialog! How this made millions at the box office I'll never know. My faith in my fellow man shrank that day.

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    8. Re:Directed by.. by Golias · · Score: 4, Funny

      They should get Micheal Moore to direct it

      But then the main battle scene would be done as nothing but sound against a black screen, and most of the rest of the movie would be shots of Autobots refusing to talk to him.

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    9. Re:Directed by.. by Golias · · Score: 1

      "And where the ---- did all those ----ing Autobots come from all the sudden!? When the alarm goes off, you got two minutes before they respond. Okay, maybe a patrol might happen to pass by at that particular moment, but they were waitin' for us man! Dinobots and all! I think we've got a rat in the house."

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    10. Re:Directed by.. by King+Fuckstain · · Score: 2, Insightful
      FUCK - just type it.

      Shit, cock, ass, balls, fuck, cunt. It's not a big deal. What the shit is wrong with you? For fuck's sake, this isn't a fucking church - it's Slashdot. Consider that.

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    11. Re:Directed by.. by Havenwar · · Score: 1

      It made millions because it had the one thing everyone loves more than good dialog.

      Not refering to breasts, although it is a good second place... No, what brings lots of people to movies is big action sequenses.

      And I'm not talking "arnold takes on twenty puerto ricans" kinda big, I'm talking "thousands of people dying and bullets flying so close you almost duck in your seat" kinda big.

      Dialog... who needs dialog? It's like prefering Metroid to Doom 3 because there was a better story. (such said: this is something a small select crowd does, but that doesnt mean its anything sane people agrees with. They both have their charms, but age does matter.)

    12. Re:Directed by.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Certainly you mean Decepticons.

    13. Re:Directed by.. by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Way to violate George Carlin's copyright, you mother fucking cocksucker!

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    14. Re:Directed by.. by Sperryfreak01 · · Score: 0

      Yea your right my english is'nt so good, I went to an Oklahoma public school

    15. Re:Directed by.. by Deinhard · · Score: 1

      I don't know...Kate Beckinsale has some pretty nice breasts.

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    16. Re:Directed by.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unicron is a person, not a place... (yes, I am posting anonymously)

    17. Re:Directed by.. by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Pounder with Cheese on Unicron

      Are you writing Autobot fanfic porn?

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    18. Re:Directed by.. by Ubergrendle · · Score: 3, Funny

      Personally I suspect the US has not joined the international war crimes tribunal due to fears that the rest of the world would extradite Michael Bay, Joel Schumacher, and Jerry Bruckheimer for Crimes Against Humanity.

      In fairness, they'd probably be acquitted since it would be impossible to find an impartial jury.

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    19. Re:Directed by.. by themoodykid · · Score: 1

      Hey, I didn't know Michael Bay's wife posted on Slashdot!

    20. Re:Directed by.. by Havenwar · · Score: 1

      Okay, so it was a tie between action, breasts, and airplanes.

      Either way, I'm pretty sure people who go to see transformers - live action - will not go because they think it will contain good dialogue.

      Or breasts.

    21. Re:Directed by.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're confused. See, in Transformers, the Deceptikons are the bad guys, so they'd be the ones refusing to talk to him. You're forgiven if you just wanted to make a joke but never watched Transformers and couldn't remember anything but "Autobots".

    22. Re:Directed by.. by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      I disagree - I don't know anybody who went to see all the historical action films that were made in the wake of LotR (like Alexander or Troy). Big action doesn't just cut it.

      Imho, its WW2. For some reason, any movie about WW2 is an automatic success. If its a big war movie, its a success. If it has anything to do with being opressed by the Germans, it is a big success and an oscar winner.

      Quality is irrelevant. Put a nazi in the flick and you have a hit.

    23. Re:Directed by.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where were the nazis in Pearl Harbor? I saw it and came away thinking most of the bad guys were Japanese.

    24. Re:Directed by.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unicron probably has more cubic metres of indoor space than any city on earth. Unicron gets to qualify as a person and as a place.

    25. Re:Directed by.. by flyingsquid · · Score: 1
      Okay, so it was a tie between action, breasts, and airplanes.

      Hmmm... if you had a female Transformer who kicked ass and could transform into a jet... then you would have an action-packed airplane with breasts.

      This could be the GREATEST movie of ALL TIME!!!

    26. Re:Directed by.. by Randle_Revar · · Score: 1

      I'll take Metroid (original, super or prime) over Doom 3 any day. Now, where did I put that ROM...

    27. Re:Directed by.. by way2trivial · · Score: 1

      you mean minerva?
      http://terrania.us/minerva/#whominerva

      oh- she's a car... right.. sorry- nevermind

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    28. Re:Directed by.. by wmaker · · Score: 1

      I attended an Oklahoma public school and my English is just fine. Maybe you were just one of the kids who never tried to learn. Maybe I'll see you around working at Shell or Love's next time I get gas or beer. Everyone seems to think there are still indians and cowboys riding around on horses shooting each other here in Oklahoma and that we have the education of someone from the 1889 land run. William

    29. Re:Directed by.. by spir0 · · Score: 1

      while I agree with your assessment of the all encompassing gaeity of Pearl Harbour, what has the director got to do with the script?

      The person who wrote the script is Randall Wallace. OK, being Hollywood, it probably went through dozens of writers, but Wallace has the credit for writer.

      However -- he has also written the screenplays for some good movies. Braveheart and We Were Soldiers come to mind. For others, look him up on IMDB.

      So remember kids, the Director is typically NOT the person who writes the movie script. So stop giving credit where credit isn't due, and don't rag on a guy wrongly either.

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    30. Re:Directed by.. by Sperryfreak01 · · Score: 0

      I was kidding actually I graduated in top 10 precent of my class and now go to Oklahoma State where I study Electrical Engeenering, But there are a lot of uneducated people in this state not only that but i belive that Oklahoma ranks in the worst 5 or 10 states for education. So even if I had gotten a poor education It would not have necessarily been only my fault but the states as well.

    31. Re:Directed by.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not watching anything involving tranny anything.

    32. Re:Directed by.. by floodo1 · · Score: 0

      it made millions because people are ignorant (generally speaking).

      bay/bruckheimer suck so much its sickening.

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    33. Re:Directed by.. by Yehtmae · · Score: 0

      'Tranny Fluid'?

      Is this a pr0n film or something?

    34. Re:Directed by.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Decepticons are a foreign adversary.

      Michael Moore would automatically insist that they are not the "real enemy."

      You see, making attack documentaries about foreign adversaries doesn't win awards at Cannes. The Europeans like you a lot better if you talk about how much we suck.

      Unless Optimus Prime was a Democrat. Then Moore would just make a film about Nike or the NRA or something, and ignore government issues until he had a Republican leader to bitch about.

      The grandparent post was modded up to 5, so obviously several people beside me got the joke. Why didn't you? Are you just kind of slow?

  4. Team America Transformers by CDMA_Demo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Looks like someone is inspired...

    1. Re:Team America Transformers by garcia · · Score: 1

      Eh, I'll wait past the three Transformers (Live Action) movies and go straight to T vs. V: Transformers vs. Voltron.

    2. Re:Team America Transformers by jzarling · · Score: 1

      Which Voltron - Lions or the many little vehicles? Personally I would like to see Macross vs Gundam

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    3. Re:Team America Transformers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the same sense, the figures of VOTOMS and Mellowlink (the two real series) against those of the Technicolor Gundam saga would be a quick fight in favor of the former.

    4. Re:Team America Transformers by boy_afraid · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean Macross vs. Transformers.

      Skyfire is the same as the Valkyries.

      Now, give me a live action Macross saga and I'm there!

  5. I cried when falco died. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cried 'first post,' that is

  6. It should be very possible by kidventus · · Score: 2, Funny



    After I saw this movie I knew this was going to happen. I just hope it doesn't suck, I'm damn protective of my transformers I had as a kid.

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    1. Re:It should be very possible by Alystair · · Score: 1

      I loved that commercial to bits, but seriously;
      As long as they get the voices to sound the same (specifically Soundwave, my favorite character in the tv series) and a decent plot down, it should be good.

    2. Re:It should be very possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, kids back in my day were very protective
      of their transformers too. I remember many a
      school yard fight over them.

      (on the bright side, I don't remember kids knifing
      eachother, like some incidents over Pokemon Cards.)

    3. Re:It should be very possible by Chyeld · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Look at who is directing, it. Look at his 'credits' again. Is there really any question that it will suck?

      The real question will be will he be able to screw it up badly enough that the sucky meter rolls over and we can atleast enjoy it in the same vein as Plan 9 from Outer Space.

    4. Re:It should be very possible by Kevin+Mitnick · · Score: 1

      If they can make a decent franchise out of X-Men, then Transformers should really kick ass.

      I think it should feature generation 1 transformers with a sprinkling of other generations in there. Dynobots (my absolute favourite) and Constructobots definetely should be in there.

      I don't think the mass-defying transformers (sound wave, etc...) should be used as much. Not as credible.

      They probablly could/should model the transformers after real actors (just like they did with Gollum in LOTR) to give them a more human element.

      And please, no Bumblebee... could be to this movie what Jar-Jar was to SW

    5. Re:It should be very possible by nkuzmik · · Score: 1
      I could take or leave Bumblebee.

      But if they screw up Grimlock, I'm going to be majorly cheesed!

    6. Re:It should be very possible by AVIDJockey · · Score: 1

      If they can make a decent franchise out of X-Men, then Transformers should really kick ass.

      The difference is that Bryan Singer is a GOOD director.

    7. Re:It should be very possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's Dinobots and Constructicons...

    8. Re:It should be very possible by lovswr · · Score: 1

      Constructabots!!!!! Damn I almost forgot about them. Ok of all us...er um 29.5 somethings..who wants to see UltraMan! I would get a second mortgage on my house to see a realistic Dr. Gordy. Yes, Please!!!

  7. RTFA by iapetus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I know not reading the article before commenting is a Slashdot tradition, but it's getting a bit much when the submitter clearly hasn't read it.

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    1. Re:RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently, he has, but likes apparently sticking apparently at apparently inappropriate places apparently in sentances.

      All kidding aside, he at least read the end of the article, because the end of his submission is straight copy-paste.

      And the article really was that uniformative.

    2. Re:RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The title's more than a little misleading as well. I thought everyone had known about the movie since the dawn of time - the only news here is the speculation about the director.

      For the sake of consistency, perhaps we could rewrite the rest of the article headlines: "Sun's Schwartz Attacks GPL" becomes "Jonathan Schwartz is President of Sun Micro?", "Star Wars Fans in Line... at the Wrong Theater" becomes "New Star Wars movie to be released?" and so on.

    3. Re:RTFA by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The title's more than a little misleading as well. I thought everyone had known about the movie since the dawn of time - the only news here is the speculation about the director.

      The only people that would have known about it are the kind of guys that would stand in line for a Star Wars movie a month before it opens... at the wrong theater.

      I mean hell, I watched Transformers as a kid and loved it, but why on earth do you assume a 30 year old man would keep up on a cartoon, much less that it's apparently going to be made into a live action movie? That was news to me. How the heck are they going to do live-action robots transforming... lots of CGI?

    4. Re:RTFA by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      " How the heck are they going to do live-action robots transforming... lots of CGI?"

      Precisely. From an fx point of view, it's more than plausible. Not only have commercials featured this, but some ameteurs have pulled it off as well.

      I think you'd be surprised, though, at how many people are Transformers fans today. I recently visited an FX studio and was shocked at how many Transformers models they had posed around their cubes. (next to LotR figurines...) There are also quite a few people wearing autobot/decepticon insignias in various forms. (Hats, t-shirts, bumper stickers...)

      I think a LOT of people would like to see a live-action transformers movie. Unfortunately, it would be VERY easy for the director to really fudge it up. The animated Transformers movie from the mid-eighties showed a glimpse of being 'more grown up'. (main characters dying, swearing, etc...) For the people I'm thinking of, it'd be great if they did something more matrue and sci-fi. They've got a great mythos to draw from, but those tards are quite likely going to try to appeal to kids. (Inspector Gadget, anyone? )

      So, yeah, expect a lot of news about it followed by moaning and groaning.

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    5. Re:RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How the heck are they going to do live-action robots transforming... lots of CGI?"
      Well, I guess you haven't seen this ad made for the C4 of Citroen, have you?

  8. Old news by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 3, Informative

    Kind of. Transfans have known this to be in the works for a while.. the original projected release date was 2005.. though I doubt that now.
    I'm mixed on this.. if its done right, it could be truly awesome...

    1. Re:Old news by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      catched a bit of the 'new' transformers on tv last weekend..

      damn was it sad. VERY VERY VERY cheaply done and it shows. practically a still show with some cheap cgi. you know, the kind of thing that you'd expect to see done in a few mbytes flash file.

      I guess they must love those robots.. because they got no lips to even try to lipsync!

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    2. Re:Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Old news? This was discovered on some papyrus at a dig in Egypt in the late 1800's...

      If you do a quick google for Don Murphy's message board, you can read all the actual facts direct from the producer's forum. Don Murphy opened the forum for transformers fans to give their input. Years ago.

      Old. Old old old old old. But then, this is an American news report, so any resemblance to actual facts is optional.

    3. Re:Old news by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      I've got bad news. CNN made a glaring error. Dreamworks and Michael Bay are making a movie about Transvestites. They, too are more than meets the eye.

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    4. Re:Old news by vena · · Score: 1

      man, if ever there was the wrong thing to call yourself, it's probbably "Transfan"

    5. Re:Old news by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only "new" Transformers series that meshed perfectly with the old one were Beast Wars and Beast Machines. They even brought back Ravage for a few episodes and went *deep* into the original mythology with Vector Sigma. I can't get into that Armada stuff.

    6. Re:Old news by mblase · · Score: 1

      The movie has been in the works for a while. The (probable) director's name is the news.

  9. Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The headline is confusing--it has very little to do with the thrust of the summary. It should read "mr_don't Says 'Michael Bay Sucks!'"

    P.S. Pearl Harbor wasn't a "bomb"--it was a bad movie that did very well at the box office. To suggest that it was a bomb is just plain silly. Pearl Harbor was a plodding movie with a trite script and stilted acting that performed extremely well at the box office thanks to aggressive marketing and some pretty good technical work. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can go around claiming it failed miserably.)

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    1. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That line has nothing to do with the movie and is actually secret instructions to a group of

    2. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      And even though it 'performed extremely well' by your definition, it still didn't make back its budget or make any profit, hence it IS A BOMB.

    3. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and, although it has been criticized for many things, I've never heard anyone criticize Pearl Harbor for the way it was directed.

    4. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by UnixRevolution · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the HUGE inaccuracies in the technology and facts of WWII.

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    5. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4, Informative
      And even though it 'performed extremely well' by your definition, it still didn't make back its budget or make any profit, hence it IS A BOMB.

      Y'know, if you're gonna troll, at least take the time to make sure your claims aren't completely wrong.

      Released in US: May 25, 2001
      Total US Gross: $198,539,855
      Production Budget: $135,000,000
      Prints and Advertising Budget :$45,000,000
      Worldwide Gross: $450,500,000

      Assume that roughly 50% of gross goes back to the studio, factor in things like DVD/Video sales and merchandise, and you've got a seriously profitable movie.

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    6. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Since when has a US film been accurate about the facts of World War 2?

    7. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by flyingsquid · · Score: 1
      Don't forget the HUGE inaccuracies in the technology and facts of WWII.

      Oh come on, lighten up people, it's entertainment, not history. It doesn't have to be 100% accurate. You've got to admit that was a frickin' awesome scene when the Zeros are diving and firing, and Abraham Lincoln just picks up his light saber and uses it to reflect their laser beams back at them, blowing them all up and winning the war!

    8. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by Cylix · · Score: 1

      Yeah...

      If you only watch the first half of the movie its a pretty good love story with a happy ending.

      I've never seen the other half of the movie.

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    9. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Tora, Tora, Tora did a hell of a lot better job than Pearl Harbor did, IMO.

      What bothered me about Pearl Harbor is that there is already an excellent epic movie about Pearl Harbor... why didn't Michael Bay make his movie specifically about the Doolittle raid which is an interesting historical event that's had very little coverage at movie theaters?

    10. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by dave420 · · Score: 1

      it's still a shit movie.

    11. Re:Sombody's Got A Bone To Pick by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah. I'd rather wrestle a jellyfish than watch that movie.

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  10. What about Bird? by LaPistola · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Well as long as it looks more like "Bad Boys II" and nothing like "Pearl Harbor" he would be fine for the movie.. but Yes, Robert Rodriguez would be a better choice. Even better would be a CG version from Pixar and Brad Bird!

  11. Wow. by schild · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This movie is going to be fucking expensive. As in reallly really goddamn expensive.

    I expect a lot of explosions. Terrible dialogue. An incredibly bad mixture of CGI and reality, the likes of which hasn't been seen since the end of Air Force One.

    All in all, this is a silly prospect. Shouldn't they be working on more interesting things? I'd suggest something but the news of a Transformers live action movie (which isn't really "new news") has left me incapable of thinking on an intelligible level.

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    1. Re:Wow. by FinestLittleSpace · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, the Air Force One ending...

      "WHAT ABOUT ME MR PRESIDENT WHAT ABOUT ME"

      That guy is a cunt.

    2. Re:Wow. by garcia · · Score: 1

      All in all, this is a silly prospect. Shouldn't they be working on more interesting things?

      Why bother? People go and watch it or rent it anyway because there is no competition. The MPAA supports bullshit movies with lame scripts and too much money spent because it's good for their PR campaign against the same people that watch their movies.

      Who the hell would believe them if they claimed they were losing money on a movie that made $400 million dollars on a $1 million budget?

    3. Re:Wow. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      look.. it being based on transformers or not has ZERO to do with it being sucky and ugly explosionfest(it being from dreamworks would have more to do with that). it matters very little what you use as the base for such a film. if you magically know that it's going to be like that then you would know it of all films.

      this, like all other films, could go both ways. probably sucks but then again most films are not great.

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    4. Re:Wow. by gphinch · · Score: 3, Informative

      A friend of mine from college works in developement now, and he was telling me that basically the studio's market research shows them that something like 95% of American males 18-35 like Transformers, so they are going to throw as much money as is needed at this, $200 mil or more, knowing that the money made will probably be in the billions when all is said and done.

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    5. Re:Wow. by gphinch · · Score: 1

      oh i forgot my audience here, i should probably expand that "he works in developement" line to say "script developement, at a studio involved in this". he's not just some developer friend of mine spouting his opinions :)

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    6. Re:Wow. by jav1231 · · Score: 1

      Dude! They're not taking away public TV!

    7. Re:Wow. by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Hopefully it will be the real Transformers, and not any of the suck ass versions exemplified by the current toylines. Optimus a combiner?

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    8. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I expect a lot of explosions. Terrible dialogue. An incredibly bad mixture of CGI and reality.


      Reading this, I immediately thought of Fox News.

      "You're either for this movie, or you're against it."

    9. Re:Wow. by Garak · · Score: 1

      What languagen dose he script in? PHP? perl? Javascript? :P jk

      You should be even more specfic, and say English scripting or something, this is slashdot...

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    10. Re:Wow. by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

      >>I expect a lot of explosions. Terrible dialogue. An incredibly bad mixture of CGI and reality, the likes of which hasn't been seen since the end of Air Force One.
      >>All in all, this is a silly prospect. Shouldn't they be working on more interesting things?

      You wouldn't happen to be referring to the Doom Movie would you? You may as well be..... sigh.

      wbs.

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    11. Re:Wow. by el-spectre · · Score: 1

      If this movie is predicted to make billions, I'd suggest "BS" as a likely language.

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    12. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice post. I particularly like the way that you presume what you are interested in is the height of good taste while throwing that pre-emptive accusation of stupidity to anyone who might disagree.

      I doubt thinking on an intelligible level is your forte anyway so I wouldn't worry.

    13. Re:Wow. by Jabolio · · Score: 1

      Yes, but 95% of men aged 18-35 like porn too, but you don't see them putting a whole lot of sex on the big screen... (actualy, studies have apparently shown that people don't want to see sex, like say in Eyes Wide Shut, but they do like teeny-sex, like in al those teey sex movies. I guess ephebophiliacs are on to something...)

    14. Re:Wow. by master_p · · Score: 1

      Is there any link for proof of this? if you go around 80s-related sites, you will see that Robotech is much more preferrable than Transformers.

      And in the age of 30+, what is the most fondly-remembered show is Star Blazers. Besides being my favorite show, I doubt it is known by todays young audiences, but Robotech certainly does.

      Robotech would make a much better movie, since it has actually a plot. Transformers was very shallow.

    15. Re:Wow. by G-funk · · Score: 1

      "We're off, to outer space, we're leaving mother earth, to save the human race"

      Ah, a live action star blazers... Now that could rock.. Could, but probably wouldn't. And they'd need to keep the flares and badass moustaches and shit too.

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    16. Re:Wow. by yakumo.unr · · Score: 1

      I'd rather watch Space Battleship Yamato

    17. Re:Wow. by mink · · Score: 1

      Sadly a live action version has been in development hell for years.
      Disney's Starblazers!
      See the crew of the USS Arizona as they race against time to save AMERICA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!

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  12. The Rock! by TheCorporal · · Score: 1

    So long as its like The Rock ill be happy...

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    1. Re:The Rock! by astrokid · · Score: 1

      So you want Optimus Prime to save the day by running in slow motion while waving the American Flag?

      come to think of it... that might be funny to watch on Robot Chicken.

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  13. Hey! by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

    Wow, with such a talented director, we can only hope they find a nice, juicy acting role for Sofia Coppola. That would just be the icing on the cake.

  14. Am I the only one by Ironsides · · Score: 1

    That believes that they are going to horibly and completely fuck this up?

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    1. Re:Am I the only one by 93,000 · · Score: 1

      No. Not by a long shot.

    2. Re:Am I the only one by VGR · · Score: 1

      No, you're not the only one. I'd bet money on it.

      Why should they bother making a good movie, anyway? It's not for Transformers fans, it's for general 80s nostalgia suckers. Long as those tickets sales are made, I doubt the producers give a rat's ass about the Transformers story.

      In all likelihood, the producers view this as no different from the Scooby Doo movies or the Brady Bunch movie or the Beverly Hillbillies movie.

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    3. Re:Am I the only one by Brand+X · · Score: 1

      There's only one thing that makes me disagree with you here...
      Simon Furman
      Regards... A transformers comics fan for 20 years and counting...

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    4. Re:Am I the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I am not suprised at your sour grapes Ironsides. I mean, they dusted you at the very start of the first movie, right. I was out of the county when the movie was in theaters and did not see till years later on video at a friend place. I remember shouting into the next room, "You didn't tell me this was a snuff movie!!!"

  15. not RR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like Robert Rodriguez, but I don't think he is a good match for transformer. He's better when there's blood to be shed and splattered all over the place. He's all about style and economy. Transformers is all about giant robots doing robot stuff and bashing the hell out of each other.

    1. Re:not RR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Transformers is all about giant robots doing robot stuff

      +5, Insightful.

      What the hell is "doing robot stuff"? Attending old people in Japan? Building interesting-looking but unreliable 1980s cars?

    2. Re:not RR by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      "I hope this movie has a lot of hot screw-sorting action in it"
      -- Criticbot 3000

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  16. Well, as a child of the 80's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather see Michael Jackson, Jerri Curls, and Member's Only jackets make a comeback to remind me how much the 80's sucked. Hardcore punk was the ONLY good thing about the 80's.

    1. Re:Well, as a child of the 80's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just make sure you give Jerri Curl his activator, or he'll kill Cookie-head Jenkins.

  17. Live Action? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

    I can't see this being decent unless all of the transformers are CGI'd in. Even then...

    Personally I think a CGI version should be made. Beast Wars was well done and when they found "the Ark" with the transformers inside I actually felt a tear running down my cheek.

    Unforuntately, the latest incarnations of Transformers (Armada, Energon, etc) have ruined it for me. First it became a Pokemon clone only with some big bots collecting small bots to help them fight (gotta catch'em all!). The animation was poor (person stood still in signle frame while energy bolts shot from his arms and shoulders).

    I can't see them replicating the coolness of the old movie though. That was just great.

    1. Re:Live Action? by pogle · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they'll never match the original, sadly. It'd be like star wars and the matrix. Too much hype and too many expectations. Hopefully they won't ruin it to the point of wretchedness, though.

      I'd almost like to see something in the style of Titan: AE. I know they didnt intend it to be a mixture of CGI and traditional animation, but I liked the effects.

      This at least prompted me to make a new sig.

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    2. Re:Live Action? by Creedo · · Score: 1

      when they found "the Ark" with the transformers inside I actually felt a tear running down my cheek.

      OK, keep in mind that this is coming from someone who knows who Orion Pax and Alpha Trion are.

      Get a grip. ;)

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    3. Re:Live Action? by UWC · · Score: 1
      The old movie... cool? I have the DVD, like it and all... but cool? There was a Weird Al musical number with "Dare to be Stupid." There was the line "Me Grimlock kick butt!" The animation was great, there were some good fight scenes, even the opening theme was hilariously extreme 80s rock, but the movie was not "cool."

      I agree that Beast Wars was pretty great, though. And yeah, the current shows are pretty much crap, though Armada did end up as a petty good PS2 game, with the collect-em-all power-up aspect of Armada integrating surprisingly well into a video game context.

      If you have fond memories of the original series, I'd HIGHLY recommend you look for the "Alternators" toy line that's out right now. There's not a series associated with it, just a bunch of 1:16-scale licensed cars with amazing transformations and classic names. I'd really recommend Hound, who is of course a Jeep Wrangler. If you can't find Hound, Swindle is a yellow version of pretty much the same mold. Oh, and of course there's the 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime if it's still in any stores. About a foot tall in robot mode, and an absolutely amazing recreation of the TV show version of Prime, and it actually transforms.

    4. Re:Live Action? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever rewatched the original transformers?

      Because Armada and Energon are much closer in the spirit to the original than the CGI ones...

      I liked Transformers as a kid, but going back and rewatching it has reminded me of just how young I really was. It really isn't all that good. The CGI ones were better - and were also not done by the same group that did the original Transformers.

      For Transformers to work, there's going to have to be some serious change in the plot and characters. Transformers is seriously cheesy.

    5. Re:Live Action? by Col.+Blackwolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's because the original Transformers was really just a 22 minute advertisement for a cool toy line. There was only just enough actual plot to keep things moving. And it wasn't always that coherent. The CGI ones, while also being about the marketing, actually did have a strong plot in their own right.

      Of course, that's just my opinion.

    6. Re:Live Action? by rjung2k · · Score: 1

      Cut the grandparent a little slack -- it took Hasbro nearly 20 years to give us Authentic CGI G1 Transformers Imagery(tm). You gotta admit Prime looked much cooler in CGI than cel animation...

    7. Re:Live Action? by nkuzmik · · Score: 1
      I can't think of any one aspect of Beast Wars that had me thinking, "What were those animators smoking when they did this?"

      Mainframe did, in my estimation, an job with Beast Wars. I never really thought about how good they really were until I started watching Energon.

      So long as whoever is directing grabs whoever is animating, puts them down in front of the Beast Wars DVD collection and says, "Do it this well or better, or I'll beat you with a wet noodle," I think the visuals should be okay.

    8. Re:Live Action? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      The whole animal thing kinda bugged me until the 2nd season when their animal forms looked metallic.

      The whole Ark thing was great though, looking around at all the old mechs rendered in CGI.

      Mainframe definately knows their stuff. Their older show "Reboot" was more primitive looking but a darn good show.

  18. Just great... by AnthonyZEO · · Score: 1

    Now we're going to end up with a movie where Megatron finds Unicron and is leading him to Cybertron for lunch and the only concern the Autobots have is whether or not Arcee and Hot Rod are gettin' it on yet. Here's a spoiler: Optimus Prime walks in on them and chases Hot Rod around the oil rig^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Metroplex with his rifle.

  19. I knew this was coming by hairykrishna · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Recently here in the UK there's been some car commercial (don't know which brand) with a car which transforms into a dancing transformers style robot. It looked so cool that I knew that someone had to exploit it for a movie, yay!

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    1. Re:I knew this was coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, that advert is exactly what the movie should be.

      Only less Citroen C4 and less dancing.

      The ad is here: http://uk.download.yahoo.com/ne/fu/oa/eurcncs18503 0.mpg

    2. Re:I knew this was coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Recently here in the UK there's been some car commercial (don't know which brand) with a car which transforms into a dancing transformers style robot.

      Citroen C4.

      Music by Les Rythmes Digitales, same track as previously used in an ad for Sunny Delight of all things...

      Urgh. Sunny Delight. If ever there was a product that illustrated the sheep-like stupidity of Britain's parental ranks, that was it. Bought as if it was basically fruit juice, anyone who'd bothered reading the label would have realised it was basically overpriced orange squash, full of sugar and additives.

      Oh, but the adverts showed it being served by faintly-indulgent-but-responsible-and-caring-middl e-class-Mum to her kids, so it must be good- right? Then someone pointed out that it was, in fact, crap, and sales plummetted. I bet those same idiots are the type that buy "Cranberry juice drink" (3% cranberry, 97% garbage) because it comes in the same cartons as real juice and "sounds" healthy. Bah! Humbug!...

    3. Re:I knew this was coming by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

      True story, one summer a bunch of us were playing basketball on a particularly hot day, and we had a good bunch of people show up for the game so ended up playing for quite a while. When we were done we were all pretty much beat, so headed up to the local Kwik-e-Mart to grab drinks.

      So they had Sunny Delight on sale that day, and instead of getting a Gatorade or water like normal I bought a couple bottles, figuring "what the heck I'll try it". I slammed the first bottle in almost one gulp, then chugged like half of the next bottle before I realized it felt like I was drinking orange flavored cough syrup. I couldn't even finish the last of the second bottle, and felt like I was going to puke for about 10 minutes after.

      Every time I see a Sunny Delight commercial showing kids chugging these horrid things after playing soccer or whatever, I just have to laugh.

    4. Re:I knew this was coming by Luyseyal · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you gotta buy the "100% juice" juice bottles if you want it to be actual juice. Only difference between that and straight up frozen concentrate is lack of pulp so you don't get any fiber.

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    5. Re:I knew this was coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True story, one summer a bunch of us were playing basketball on a particularly hot day [..] When we were done [..] I bought a couple bottles, figuring "what the heck I'll try it"

      Whooh. Odd and spooky coincidence #1; the Sunny Delight ad with the music described above featured a bunch of people playing Basketball.

      You must have seen it and subconsciously been brainwashed by The Man. ;-)

    6. Re:I knew this was coming by slasar · · Score: 1

      I remember sunny D, I tried it once, and ever since I saw it on the shelf in a fridge it was the first product that I refused to purchase without hesitation. It was like drinking watered down water with a hint of shit!

      Isnt C4 an explosive used by suicide car bombers in Iraq

  20. Los Hooligans by Lovesquid · · Score: 3, Funny

    After Sin City, I hope to hell that all movies from now on are directed by Robert Rodriguez. And they should all star Carla Gugino as the closed-mouthed, naked lesbian.

  21. Ugh by KSobby · · Score: 2, Funny

    Michael Bay? Too bad it won't be Lucas. It would crank up the Unintentional Comedy Scale (TM) to 11 to see the actors being more mechanical than the robots.

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    1. Re:Ugh by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 1

      Technically, it's the Unintentional Comedy Rating (UCR) scale, and don't steal from Simmons without giving credit where credit is due.

    2. Re:Ugh by sideshow · · Score: 1

      Guess you haven't seen Pearl Harbor.

      I say that based on your UCS this movie is going to be at least a 26 because Bay is directing it.

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  22. About 5 days late for April Fools by WarpedMind · · Score: 1

    You've got be kiddiing. My 5 year old loves the toys, but a movie out of a marketing gimic for cars?

    I guess I just never understood the premise of the transformer universe.

  23. The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by BRock97 · · Score: 5, Funny
    'Bay's credits include the two "Bad Boys" movies, "Pearl Harbor," "Armageddon" and "The Rock." '

    So, based on that resume, we can expect the following:
    • Bumble Bee and Spike will be two loose cannons that try and bring down an Insecticon drug ring
    • Hot Rod and Kup will defend Cybertron from a surprise attack from the Quintesons
    • Optimus Prime and a rag tag group of Autobots will lead a US mission to Unicron and try to blow it up before he eats Earth
    • And my personal favorite, Kup and Perceptor will try and take back an energon plant from the Dinobots who have gone AWOL. AGAIN!

    This will be the most incredible movie, EVER!
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    1. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by a3217055 · · Score: 1

      Hey what abot megatron and starscream... You forgot to put them into the picture. :) Funny analysis

    2. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't forget the breathtaking scene where BenAflecktron puts an animal cracker down LivTylerbots pants.

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    3. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 1
      Bumble Bee and Spike will be two loose cannons that try and bring down an Insecticon drug ring

      But isn't that was Tansformers was about anyway? No matter how much I tell people energon cubes was metaphor for the 80's inner city crack epidemic no ones listens. Maybe Micheal Bay will get it right.

      I can't wait for the gratuitous scenes of Bubblebee chasing down Starscream with his hood flying open to show seductive glimpes of his chrome engine block, then Spike has to tackle him to save him from an oncoming freight train, or Megatron transforming in slow motion while random things unexplicably explode around him to blast Falco (two days before his retirement) in the chest.Or when Bumbblebee and Spike switch identities to protect the human Hooker. Russel Crowe can play Optimus Prime, and Angelina Jolie can be the love interest.

      BubbleBee: I'm Spike. No cup holder, no back seat. Just a shiny gold dick with two chairs in it.

      MPAA take my money now!

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    4. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by falser · · Score: 2, Funny

      The degree to which you remember the names of the Autobot characters is, well, frightening.

    5. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by Requiem · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also, Ultra-Magnus will go down in the first action sequence.

    6. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by BRock97 · · Score: 1

      " The degree to which you remember the names of the Autobot characters is, well, frightening."

      The degree to which you know how many were correct is equally as disturbing ;-).....

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    7. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by mrjb · · Score: 1

      I'm all for it. As long as Zimmer does the music again.

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    8. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha omg i laughed for about 4 minutes there. im in class, thats a bad thing...

      funny as hell

    9. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by mushroom+blue · · Score: 1

      I'm disappointed that both of you are ashamed of your knowledge of Transformers characters. is this some sort of geek repentance? embrace your knowledge.

    10. Re:The Movie Will Have Everything!!!!!!! by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah he goes down. After all, how do you think he got to be next-in-line for Leader?

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  25. Which Generation of Transformer? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 1

    The ones I watched when I was in elementary school, which rocked? Or all the lesser generations since which sucked? That, regardless of who is director, is the most important question.

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    1. Re:Which Generation of Transformer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Since this will be a Hollywood version, the writers are going to take some "creative leeway" - ie "I don't give a sh*t about continuity / I don't want [myself|the movie] to be branded a geek [flick] and actually watch the old series."

      So I'm guessing the later.

    2. Re:Which Generation of Transformer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Movies generally aren't considered canon anyway. I wouldn't worry about continuity violations.

    3. Re:Which Generation of Transformer? by rjung2k · · Score: 1

      The Transformers mythos has violated its own continuity so many times it makes George Lucas jealous.

  26. Pearl Harbor by dR.fuZZo · · Score: 3, Funny
    I miss you more then Michael Bay missed the mark
    When he made Pearl Harbor
    I miss you more than that movie missed the point
    And that's an awful lot girl
    And now, now you've gone away
    And all I'm trying to say is
    Pearl Harbor sucked, and I miss you

    I need u like Ben Affleck needs acting school
    He was terrible in that film
    I need u like Cuba Gooding needed a bigger part
    He's way better than Ben Affleck
    And now all I can think about is your smile
    and that shitty movie too
    Pearl Harbor sucked and I miss you

    Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies?
    I guess Pearl Harbor sucked
    Just a little bit more than I miss you
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    1. Re:Pearl Harbor by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "I need u like Cuba Gooding needed a bigger part
      He's way better than Ben Affleck"


      He was also the wrong skin color for 1941. He didn't play a bigger part because the person he plays wasn't allowed to have a bigger part.

    2. Re:Pearl Harbor by reverseengineer · · Score: 1
      I think a Pearl Harbor movie that focused on Dorie Miller could be excellent- you could certainly make a story out of the whole "defending a country that treats him as a second class citizen" angle.

      In terms of your historical argument, it's clear that Buena Vista didn't give a crap about history anyway, as it had a character who fought in the Battle of Britain, at Pearl Harbor, and flew on the Doolittle raid, when in actuality no single person did all those things. Also, it's 1941 and no one in the U.S. Navy smokes or curses. If they had greatly expanded the brief heroic act of one real life person to give it more screen time, it would have been quite minor compared to the egregious factual errors in the movie they did make.

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  27. Sign of the Times by jspey · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ..."The Transformers," Hasbro's popular 1980s toy line of giant robots that morph into cars, trucks, planes, ships and other technological creations.

    20 years ago, transformers would have been described as giant robots that transform into other things. Now CNN says they 'morph', depite the face that their name contains in it the word used to describe their shape-changing. What's worse is that the word 'morph' became popular because of the terminator in T-2, where it's used to describe something noticably different from what the transformers do.

    I'll never understand the media.

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    1. Re:Sign of the Times by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      that's it!!! i'll package piles of play-doh into plastic wrappin and market it as: morphformers!!

      MORPHFORMERS!!! CRAP FLYING IN THE SKY!!!!!!!!

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    2. Re:Sign of the Times by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From dictionary.com

      morph: To be transformed

      I don't know why you think it's a sign of the times that the media is using synonyms.

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    3. Re:Sign of the Times by KillerDeathRobot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe they just wanted to mix up the vocabulary used in the sentence. "Transformers are robots that transform" sounds kind of redundant.

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    4. Re:Sign of the Times by Cyclonus · · Score: 1

      More like shape shift they do.

      I mean, Optimus Prime, is an 18 wheeler? where the hell does the trailer go when he's a robot.

      And BumbleBee almost the size of a human? I'm sorry, a volkswagen would still be a giant for a friend.

      They shape-shift... and then scale and then crop out unnecessary things like trailers.

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    5. Re:Sign of the Times by mstyne · · Score: 1

      The trailer detaches.

      DUH

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    6. Re:Sign of the Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so what happens if Optimus prime transforms
      into a robot, walks 500 miles away, and then
      transforms back into a semi?

    7. Re:Sign of the Times by Sc00ter · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What about Megatron.. He stands next to one of his evil buddies, then transforms into a hand gun that his buddy is now holding..

    8. Re:Sign of the Times by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

      That, or the author was just trying to avoid redundancy in the sentence.

    9. Re:Sign of the Times by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Always conviently off screen. If you have the DVDs you will see that it just slides back offscreen.

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    10. Re:Sign of the Times by mboos · · Score: 1

      I believe the trailer is transferred into sub-space according to my friend who is an avid Transformers fan (to say the least).

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    11. Re:Sign of the Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, but you see people know what morph means because they explained it so well in Mighty Morphing Power Rangers.

      Transforming takes to long to type anyway.

    12. Re:Sign of the Times by VGR · · Score: 1

      Interdimensional space, plain and simple. (Well, maybe not so simple.)

      These aren't robots built by Sony. They're extraterrestrial and a hell of a lot more advanced than any human tech. If Megatron has a "fusion cannon" for a weapon, then an interdimensional portal isn't much of a stretch.

      In fact, in some scenes of the original show, you can see the trailer disappear into an interdimensional portal with a flash as Prime takes robot form.

      And as I recall, Transformers Universe (from Marvel) stated that Megatron had another weapon which could interdimensionally draw on the gravitational force of a black hole. (Yeah, I know, Technobabble Science. But who cares, it's cool.)

      Similar explanations apply to the inevitable question of how Megatron and Soundwave and Blaster and Perceptor can go from five-ton robots to four-kilogram guns, boom boxes, and microscopes. Very very advanced tech. Get over it.

      But you can bet that such size/mass changes won't be in the movie.

      In fact, if they go with the original "Ark awakens in 1984" storyline, they probably will make Megatron transform into something other than a real pistol. Wouldn't want to inspire another Columbine by showing any actual guns.

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    13. Re:Sign of the Times by Derekloffin · · Score: 1

      Well, technically, they don't simply transform. They can drastically alter size (Soundwave is a walkman for pity sakes!) as well remove or add parts in the process.

    14. Re:Sign of the Times by krf · · Score: 1

      I think that the first use of the morph effect in a movie was actually in willow .

    15. Re:Sign of the Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not much of a fan if that's what he thinks. The trailer simply detaches (when it's actually attached that is, he DOES drive around without it most of the time.)

    16. Re:Sign of the Times by david.given · · Score: 1
      morph: To be transformed

      What? I'm sorry, that's just plain wrong.

      This is Morph. As any fule kno.

    17. Re:Sign of the Times by On+Lawn · · Score: 4, Funny


      Now there is an idea. Amidts these giants, Megatron is simply some tiny robot with a napoleon complex.

    18. Re:Sign of the Times by anakin876 · · Score: 1

      Is this old transformers or new transformers? The original Transformers had the trailer detach - it even had a gun platform and stuff. The newer version of the Transformers may be different. Between the 3d cartoon and the beast wars thing, it's all messed up now.

    19. Re:Sign of the Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The unofficial fan explanation is that the extra matter is stored in subspace, the same place they carry their riffles when not in use.

      The episode 'microbots' also clearly shows that they have size changing tech.

    20. Re:Sign of the Times by Reignking · · Score: 0

      The episode 'microbots' also clearly shows that they have size changing tech.

      What's the big deal? I get emails about that every day...

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    21. Re:Sign of the Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A wizard did it."

    22. Re:Sign of the Times by anakin876 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yea, megatron will turn into a walkie talkie, just like in ET!

    23. Re:Sign of the Times by Rorschach1 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I mean, Optimus Prime, is an 18 wheeler? where the hell does the trailer go when he's a robot.

      It simply receeds over the horizon, duh. Weren't you paying attention?

      Now, the interesting part is that it's the same desert horizon, regardless of where they're actually at.

      So in short, your answer is: Over the horizon, in the desert. That's where the trailer goes.

    24. Re:Sign of the Times by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      Exactly...if you have a thesaurus, use it!

      Signed,

      baby kangaroo Tribiani

    25. Re:Sign of the Times by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The trailer just... leaves, in that magical way that accessories in video games and cartoons used to. I believe it contains some equipment and it was in a couple/few episodes, it's been a while.

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    26. Re:Sign of the Times by orac2 · · Score: 1

      Man, I used to love Tony Hart's show: a rare gem in that it managed to avoid patronising children, and was a hell of a lot more creative than Blue Peter.

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    27. Re:Sign of the Times by CasmirRadon · · Score: 2, Insightful
      morph: To be transformed
      I don't know why you think it's a sign of the times that the media is using synonyms.

      From dictionary.com

      Synonyms for "Transform":
      Alter, commute, convert, mutate, remodel, reconstruct, revamp, transmute....

      Transformers are giant robots that mutate into technological creations.

      Transformers are giant robots that remodel into technological creations.

      Transformers are giant robots that convert into technological creations.

      Do I need to go on? Synonyms have their use, but the whole point of different words, is that the definitions are not identical. How exactly is your blanket statement insight?

    28. Re:Sign of the Times by smthgclever · · Score: 1

      Unless Steven Spielberg ends up directing the movie, then Megatron will transform into a Walkie Talkie, or NERF Nerf, just so kids don't get the wrong idea.

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    29. Re:Sign of the Times by Anm · · Score: 1

      Since your going to get picking about words...

      Morphing, from an effect perspective, has little to do with the 3D rending used in T2, and lots more to do with the image stretching plus color interpolation used in older movies like Willow.

    30. Re:Sign of the Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more likely he'll be a tank, a la TransFormers G2... hopefully without the ugly psudo camoflauge

  28. Only IF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they get the original voice actors....Optimus Prime just wouldn't be the same w/ an imitator.

  29. This is old news by bigdady92 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This has been circulating the net for MONTHS. If you visit any of the transformer sites you can see that they've known about this for a while.

    http://www.transformerland.com/transformers-the-mo vie.html

    Why do I say it's been around for months? Because they have already secured the voice of the ORIGINAL Optimus Prime! Not that crappy one on the new cartoons, the ORIGNAL voice. The TRUE voice of Prime !

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    1. Re:This is old news by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      First, I actually like the voice from the Mainframe Beast Wars series. That being said _nobody_ would be as good as Peter Cullen, and it rocks that they got him.

      The real question is whether anybody's willing to shove razorblades down their larynx to play StarScream.

    2. Re:This is old news by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

      And if you remember the old Transformers series, you'll notice if you watch them again that Optimus and George W. Bush apparently have the same dialog writers.

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    3. Re:This is old news by bigdady92 · · Score: 0

      Such as it's impossible as he's dead. BUT! They are going to be bringing back the voice of Megatron. No NOT Galvatron from the movie, the ORIGINAL Megatron. That's still in the works too.

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    4. Re:This is old news by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Hm... as cool as that is, I think they missed an opportunity to get some nerd points by casting Leonard Nimoy for Megatron (yeah, Galvatron from the movie).

      I've always had this perverse fantasy to bug Nimoy to bug Nimoy about that character he used to play and see how long it takes him to figure out that I don't mean Spock.

    5. Re:This is old news by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      "First, I actually like the voice from the Mainframe Beast Wars series."

      But that wasn't Optimus Prime; it was a ship captain who was named Optimus. "Prime" being the designation for the leader (i.e. Sentinel Prime, Optimus Prime, Rodimus Prime).

  30. Shockwave by Reignking · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will they update Shockwave? Boomboxes are soooooo 80's...

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    1. Re:Shockwave by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Yea but now he is a bit smaller, he is Ipud. your helpful little music friend.

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    2. Re:Shockwave by xander2032 · · Score: 1

      Exactly! Kids will be like "Mom? What's that weird looking thing?" I should turn Shockwave into an iPod! ;)

    3. Re:Shockwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some nerds you lot are! Shockwave was the guy with a dot for a face, one hand and mumbly voice. Soundwave was the cassette player, had the monotone robo voice and was Megatron's Smithers. I just hope they keep the cassette animals (Ravenge and Laserbeak)

    4. Re:Shockwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, I heard they will change his name to Flash now.

    5. Re:Shockwave by rjung2k · · Score: 1

      You mean Soundwave (or maybe Blaster), not Shockwave.

      Flying laser cannons are easier for today's kids to grok than tape decks.

    6. Re:Shockwave by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Okay, I just outnerded you.

      Shockwave was the one-eyed purple guy who turned into a big flying gun and ruled cybertron. Soundwave was the old tape deck.

      Actually, the absurdity of a giant robot transforming into something 8 inches wide probably means that Shockwave, Megatron, and Reflector (the camera) will likely be reformatted into something new, I'll bet. For example, perhaps they'll use the tank-version Megatron from the Generation 2 line of toys.

      Still, overall this movie can be really good. After seeing the Citroen movie (and its predecessor - a strikingly similar hobbiest movie using a new Bug... it had the same shaky, wobbly camera, for example) I think that the transformers can be animated very well. They'll probably have to take some liberties with the designs - the toys were often only vaguely humanoid, and meanwhile the cartoon characters often involved physically impossible transformations.

    7. Re:Shockwave by Stephen+Williams · · Score: 1

      That was Soundwave. Shockwave was the angular purple ray-gun.

      Soundwave could be an iPod, though he wouldn't have his private army of cassette robots any more. Unless someone can think of a way to make MP3s transform into robots?

      -Stephen

    8. Re:Shockwave by Reignking · · Score: 0

      I humbly apologize for the error:
      Soundwave
      Shockwave

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    9. Re:Shockwave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could make his army with Napster subscription music. Thousands of robots at his command, but are destroyed when Soundwave forgets to pay his monthly subscription.

    10. Re:Shockwave by JoshWurzel · · Score: 1

      PEDANT WARNING

      Shockwave was a laser gun. SOUNDwave was the boombox.

    11. Re:Shockwave by Bloomy · · Score: 1
      Takara and Hasbro could try to license these transforming CDs from Bandai. Though the designs they licensed from Bandai back in the '80s (Jetfire, Deluxe Insecticons, Deluxe Autobots) couldn't be used in the show or comic, so they probably wouldn't get to use these.

      Alternate links :
      Hawk
      Wolf
      Monkey
      Crab

      I apologize if posting links to a store is frowned upon, but that's where I first came across them and Googling for these guys (Kamen Riders Disk Animals) turns up mostly online retailers. Plus, the first link didn't have the crab.

    12. Re:Shockwave by Bob+The+Cowboy · · Score: 1

      No... he'll just have a hip new son with a scroll wheel...

      iWave, maybe?

    13. Re:Shockwave by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      Well, if he's an iPod in the new movie, at least we know his ejectable minions won't be batteries.

    14. Re:Shockwave by powerlord · · Score: 1

      Be an interesting update to Soundwave's "Tapes".

      If you updated an 80's boombox (w/Tapeplayer), to a CD Boombox, at least they could include CDs.

      Or perhaps just have the Cars "eject" them from their dashboard CD player :)

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  31. Disney didn't do this by Doc+Ido · · Score: 1

    Disney hasn't made a robot movie so there is nothing to rip-off. This has to be a rumor.

  32. Rodriguez is not an option. by randomaxe · · Score: 5, Informative

    In case you hadn't heard, Robert Rodriguez probably won't be doing many major-studio pictures any time soon. His decision to share directing credit with Frank Miller (and, to a certain extent, Tarantino) forced him to drop out of the Director's Guild of America.

    And AFAIK, it works kind of like a union thing, the major studios only hiring directors from the DGA.

    Rodriguez will no doubt have little trouble finding work... but expect it to be via indie studios.

    1. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

      Rodriguez will no doubt have little trouble finding work... but expect it to be via indie studios.

      Fuck that studio shit.

      Final Cut Pro HD + all those wicked new DVCPRO cams baby!!

      At this point all the man has to do is stick a broom up his ass to sweep up behind him.. Writing, Directing, Editing, Producing, Lighting, Sound.. He does it all... And likes it that way...

      (BTW, I did dig the _Sky Captain_ movie, which pioneered the techniques used in _Sin City_.. Decopunk is kewl...)

    2. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by carmaggedon · · Score: 1

      it works like this: most major studios only hire guild-member directors for projects they've developed in-house. so rodriguez wouldn't be hired to do something like transformers. (although the DGA could always change their silly rules and allow for multiple directors, and then maybe rodriguez would rejoin.) however, neither quentin tarantino nor george lucas are DGA members. this just means that they develop their own projects from start to finish, not that they're exiled from major studios or have any trouble finding work.

    3. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by rnelsonee · · Score: 3, Informative
      From From an article I read today:

      So Rodriguez dropped out of the DGA. That move cost him the opportunity to direct Paramount's sci-fi adventure A Princess of Mars. (The union forbids non-members from signing onto projects already in the works at a member studio.) He can, however, make movies independently and distribute them through a studio. His friendship with Bob and Harvey Weinstein, who headed Miramax but split from Disney this week to start a new company, practically guarantees he will continue to direct movies.

      So it looks like the old having-powerful-buddies thing will still happen for Rodriguez. Sure, it won't be as good as it would if he was in the DGA, but who knows.

    4. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by miller701 · · Score: 1

      Didn't Lucas also get dropped from the DGA because he had no opening credits in Star Wars (ANH)?

    5. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's fine. The major studios haven't created a good, original film on their own in years. He won't be missing out much.

    6. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shut up, bitch I decopunked your mom. OH SHNIZZZAP!!!

    7. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pfft. I guess it's time to outsource the directors, too.

      Do you know if there are any good Mexican directors up for the job?

    8. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      In case you hadn't heard, Robert Rodriguez probably won't be doing many major-studio pictures any time soon.

      You are wrong. DGA membership isn't important at all to a successful director. One or two $200 million domestic grosses behind you, and you can write your own ticket.

      Only if you're an unknown, or have a poor track record, is a DGA card somewhat important. Studio producers won't waste any time looking at Rodriguez's DGA standing when they have the Sin City returns to consider.

      His decision to share directing credit with Frank Miller (and, to a certain extent, Tarantino) forced him to drop out of the Director's Guild of America.

      If it actually mattered, he could rejoin in about 2 weeks of waiting on paperwork.

    9. Re:Rodriguez is not an option. by sideshow · · Score: 1
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directors_Guild_of_Am erica
      Rodriguez will no doubt have little trouble finding work... but expect it to be via indie studios.

      George Lucas and Quentin Tarantino aren't members of the DGA so Rodriguez won't have any issues.

      Lucas wasn't even a member when he made Star Wars.

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  33. Get by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

    Why not get a Japanese director insteaD? all the latest Transformers have been made in Japan and although they arn't fantastic they do already use alot of CGI animation, maybe it's time to push it to the next step and screw Hollywood onm this one.

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    1. Re:Get by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      WTF? Get out of here.
      There is only one Transformers, the original from the 80's. Anything since is shit plain and simple.

      Actually, I guess I kind of expected this to be a shit movie built off of the 'newer' transformers series, but the only hope of it being an even remotely enjoyable movie is to stick to the original for inspiration and don't even blink at any of the recent cgi mistreatments of the Transformers.

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    2. Re:Get by blincoln · · Score: 1

      Why not get a Japanese director insteaD?

      Most medium-to-big-budget Japanese films I've seen fall into one or both of two categories:

      - Incomprehensible to mainstream Western audiences.
      - A mish-mash of thinly-veiled material stolen from popular films of the last twenty years.

      Some examples:

      - Returner. Basically The Terminator crossbred with The Matrix.
      - Casshern. Some old manga done up in the style of The Matrix, whose plot can't really be understood without already knowing the story and/or being familiar with Japanese culture.
      - Ichi The Killer. Nicely done, but nothing that most Americans would pay to see.
      - Battle Royale. See previous.
      - Battle Royale II. A knockoff of the first film, but with a story tacked on that only makes sense if you're familiar with Japanese culture.

      I don't really see a problem with Michael Bay directing this. The Transformers didn't exactly have a deep plot, although it was better than the other 30-minute toy commercials of the 80s. Bay specializes in both action scenes and the sort of standard hero versus villain showdown exemplified by Optimus Prime and Megatron fighting in the animated movie. ...besides, he stuck a shot of the Apollo 1 memorial plaque in Armageddon, so he gets props from me. How many Americans had never seen it before that?

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  34. Too late by sulli · · Score: 2, Funny

    Optium s Prime has died of prostate cancer. Perhaps our Autobot heroes will wear blue ribbons for him.

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    1. Re:Too late by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Blue ribbons for prostate cancer now? Christ, the attendees at the next Oscar awards will have enough ribbons on their chest to look like a third world despot.

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    2. Re:Too late by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      He didn't die, and didn't get prostate cancer. At the end of this spot, he clearly states that Transformers(r)(tm)(c) are robots without organic internal organs, and therefore can't get prostate cancer.

      From another post above:
      http://www.steakandcheese.com/downloads/One_Life_T o_Energon.wmv

  35. Can I be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ee-er-eh-ah-ooh...

  36. Sweet! by SenorPez · · Score: 0

    This has the potential to be just like "Sky Captain and the [CGI] World of Tomorrow."
    Except instead of ruining a perfectly generic universe, they can ruin one that whole generations of children grew up enjoying.
    Sweet!

  37. Live Action? by Thakandar2 · · Score: 1

    Because in Transformers, the humans riding in Optimus Prime's cab were always the emotional focus.

  38. Yeah, Robert Rodriguez! by kuriharu · · Score: 1
    I think it'd be great to have Robert direct it.


    That way, we could have the transformers cannibalize people, the bad guy could be a Catholic priest Decepticon, etc. The Autobots can use guns, axes, etc to hack their opponents to death, all while smoking and hanging with prostitutes. I think Optimus Prime would look awesome chopping up a bunch of people in the crotch with an axe while on drugs.

    1. Re:Yeah, Robert Rodriguez! by Sygnus · · Score: 1
      That way, we could have the transformers cannibalize people, the bad guy could be a Catholic priest Decepticon, etc. The Autobots can use guns, axes, etc to hack their opponents to death, all while smoking and hanging with prostitutes. I think Optimus Prime would look awesome chopping up a bunch of people in the crotch with an axe while on drugs.

      So, we're going to have UN "Peacekeepers" starring in the movie?

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    2. Re:Yeah, Robert Rodriguez! by kuriharu · · Score: 1
      So, we're going to have UN "Peacekeepers" starring in the movie?

      No, not at all. I'm not opposed to violence in movies. What I hate is when there's ONLY violence and no story. When the only entertainment in a movie is the violence, then I'm not only disappointed, I'm bored. I loved Braveheart, for example, which was one of the most violent movies I've ever seen. But it had a great story, so I can watch it multiple times.

      You might counter that Sin City did in fact have a story (or multiple mini-stories). I guess what I mean is a GOOD story. When people talk about Sin City, they'll either mention the visuals (which were very impressive), or they'll talk about the violence. Few people will discuss the story(ies) in the film.

      And incidentally, I'm not trolling. The original post said he wished Rodriguez would direct. I had to state my own opinion. Or would you be happier if I just conformed and didn't express any dissent?

    3. Re:Yeah, Robert Rodriguez! by mink · · Score: 1

      Funny thing is my wife and I mostly discuss the stories, and what we would like to know about the characters. We have not read the Graphic Novels that Sin City took it's stories from.
      We wonder if the "the salesman" on the balcony at the start and in the elevator at the end (I assume he is a hit man) is hired by the people he kills or people who want them dead, and whats the deal with his "kindness".
      We discussed a major theme of the film (from 2 main characters POV) sanity and the lack of it. Dwight was insane to the point he had corpses talking to him, but he knew it was hid mind trying to turn him against himself.
      Marv was capable of being a brutal killer, but also still capable of wondering if he had lost it and gone over the edge into madness. Living with a mental illness is not an easy thing and how they made the characters deal with the issues they had was worthy of discussion.
      Corruption and evil getting a free walk was another aspect that in some ways does hit close to home. I notice that a number of comic stories have had sons of powerful men as killers/molesters who are protected from the consequences of their actions.
      One other thing we talked about was "fate" as some call it. No matter how rich the governor was or how much each other person wanted things to be different, in the long run "Old man dies, young girl lives, fair trade".
      I guess the story in Sin City is what you find, not necessarily what they put there.
      While there was plenty of violence in Sin City I think they carefully chose what was necessary to show the audience and what was left to our minds. They could have shown Marv doing in a number of people, but we at most saw the aftermath. We could have seen that nice young man Kevin have a meal. I think they chose not to simply wallow in ultra violence while still trying to bring across the content of the comic.
      I do agree that visually it was stunning, just a highlight here or there (mainly eyes) and I notice each "story" had a different color for blood. I also think my favorite visual was when Dwight was standing in the alley and we get the shot facing him, the perspective and how the set was built was a visual treat.

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  39. Rodriguez? by hikerhat · · Score: 1

    The guy who did spy kids 1-3, The Faculty, From Dusk To Dawn, Desperado? Some claim Sin City didn't suck (I'm not one of them), but all he had to do there was xerox a comic book. Oh, and have Tarantino and Frank Miller around to show him where the copy button is, because he probably can't even use a copy machine correctly. I would say Rodriguez is not a better pick.

    1. Re:Rodriguez? by BewireNomali · · Score: 1

      lol. hollywood favors consistency over inspiration. rodriguez does everything, and for cheap. he did sin city (which i agree... sucked. but that carla gugino *drool*) for 45 million, which is f*ckin bargain basement for a start-to-end exercise in cgi. films are risky propositions, and rodriguez has proven that he can consistently go from concept to cash-in-hand. that counts for more in hollywood than a great director who can't get anyone to see his movies.

      that being said. i agree with the parent. rodriguez sucks at making good movies. but he makes really good looking bad ones.

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    2. Re:Rodriguez? by kuriharu · · Score: 1

      Right on! Rodriguez makes bad movies that look good.
      Very well put.

  40. in line by kneeo · · Score: 1

    Im getting in line at a theater, right now!!

    1. Re:in line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um... You're at the wrong theatre..

    2. Re:in line by kneeo · · Score: 1

      It's not about seeing the movie, it's about being in line and playing with my Transformer toys.

  41. The "Bomb" Pearl Harbor? by BTWR · · Score: 4, Informative
    Maybe it was a bad movie, and maybe it was mocked by critics, the press and the public... but a "bomb?" I think not.

    From boxofficemojo.com this is the breakdown:

    Pearl Harbor:
    Production Budget: $140 million
    Est. Marketing Costs: $70 million

    Domestic gross: $198,542,554 (44.2%)
    + Overseas gross: $250,678,391 (55.8%)
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    = Worldwide gross: $449,220,945

    So... it cost $210 million to make and market the film, it took in $450 million from the box office ALONE (not including the millions that selling tv rights brings, DVD/VHS sales, pay-per-view spots), and I'm sure the producers are really crying about this "bomb" - crying all the way to the bank...

    1. Re:The "Bomb" Pearl Harbor? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      Production Budget: $140 million
      Est. Marketing Costs: $70 million
      Damage to the reputation of the writters , the director and the actors : Priceless ....
      Seriously i can not be the only person in the world sick to death of remakes and live action versions ...first TMNT(heros in a half shell , turtle power) ,then scoobie then garfield etc etc etc ad nausium.Please for the love of god stop bastardising my and many other peoples childhoods and get some new ideas .
      (im still pissed off what with what they did to garfield )

      anyway i would be intrested to know where they are getting the real world giant transforming robots as i have um some world domination plans..

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    2. Re:The "Bomb" Pearl Harbor? by xXunderdogXx · · Score: 1

      Did you see the movie?

    3. Re:The "Bomb" Pearl Harbor? by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      "it cost $210 million to make and market the film, it took in $450 million from the box office ALONE"

      To be fair, of that $450,000,000 at the box office, the movie company probably only get around $200,000,000. But if those numbers are correct then it must still be profitable.

    4. Re:The "Bomb" Pearl Harbor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a rule of thumb a film has to make three times more than its production budget just to be break even. So it would have to of made about $420M just to be profitable. The film was hardly a bomb commercially but neither was it the mega-hit that everybody expected it to be.

    5. Re:The "Bomb" Pearl Harbor? by hashbrownie · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're right that Pearl Harbor made money, but the story is a little more complicated than adding up the grosses and comparing them to the production budget and marketing costs.

      First, grosses include money that goes to studios and exhibitors. So, for the $450 million that Pearl Harbor grossed in theaters, a good chunk of that went to AMC, etc. The formula to determine how much the studios get is complicated -- studios make a higher percentage in the first weeks and a lower percentage deep into the run -- but it's about a 50-50 split. Next, there's distribution fees. Disney produced the film (through Touchstone) and released it in the U.S. via its subsidiary Buena Vista, but internationally there's probably a foreign distributor that gets a cut of what the film earned in its country. That's probably 10% of the international gross. So, Touchstone's theatrical gross is about $450 - $225 - $25, or $200 million.

      Second step: Gross participants. This movie was a Jerry Bruckheimer production and starred Ben Affleck, and you bet your ass that they got gross percentage points. This means that they get a certain % of the studio's revenues before the studio takes costs into account. (These are NOT counted in the production budget or marketing costs.) I'll take a rough guess of 30% for total gross participation points. Now Disney's take is down to $140 million.

      Third step: Cost of capital. A dollar three years from now isn't worth as much as a dollar today. For a studio, this cost of capital is more or less 10% annually. Marketing costs are thankfully paid nearly during the theatrical run, but production costs are paid two years in advance. So the "real" production budget, in year-of-release relative dollars, is more like $170 million.

      So Disney is paying $240 million and getting $140 million. Sounds bad? Yeah, but like BTWR noted, Disney gets TV rights, DVD sales, Pay-per-view, HBO ... that adds up. Plus, it's pure cash flow -- in current Hollywood contracts, people like Affleck and Bruckheimer don't get much of a slice of that pie. (For DVD sales, the store gets about 50%, and of the remaining 50%, the studio gets about 80%). How many DVDs did Pearl Harbor sell? Try $130 million worth in its first week. Disney makes 40% of that, or about $34 million, in pure cash.

      All in all, Pearl Harbor is almost certainly already a profit for Disney. If it's not yet, continuing DVD sales will push it over the hump very soon.

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    6. Re:The "Bomb" Pearl Harbor? by Kombat · · Score: 1

      To be fair, of that $450,000,000 at the box office, the movie company probably only get around $200,000,000.

      What makes you think that? Where do you think the other $250 million went? The theatres? If that's what you think, then I suggest you dig a little deeper into how the movie industry works. The theaters themselves get practically nothing out of selling the tickets for the movies, almost all of that money goes to the studio. The theaters make almost all of their money from selling concessions (snacks), and ad time before the movies.

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  42. GI Joe Movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they're going to make live-action movies of popular 80's cartoons, then wouldn't a G.I. Joe movie make a little more sense?

    1. Re:GI Joe Movie? by gonzocanuck2 · · Score: 1

      LOL, maybe it's because the first one didn't make sense? What the heck was up with that "Cobra-la-la-la-la!" war cry? I've never laughed so hard at a movie before :-D

    2. Re:GI Joe Movie? by halivar · · Score: 1

      Hrmm...

      Catherine Zeta-Jones as the Baroness? Any takers?

    3. Re:GI Joe Movie? by blew_fantom · · Score: 0

      here! here! and reg park as snake eyes! and steve buscemi as cobra commander (both wear masks so its not so much how they look as it is about their acting)! woo hoo!

  43. Umm... by kaellinn18 · · Score: 1

    I expect a lot of explosions. Terrible dialogue. An incredibly bad mixture of CGI and reality, the likes of which hasn't been seen since the end of Air Force One.

    Are you one of the fortunate ones who have not seen either of the Star Wars prequels?

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      There is also 'tea' in team. So lets go have a cuppa.

  44. Quentin Tarantino by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If anybody can make a bad movie not just good, but a masterpiece, it's Quentin Tarantino.

    They sign him, and the movie will top the charts.

  45. OMG by LucBorg · · Score: 1

    Come on, why on earth would anyone want to watch a movie about giant robots, except maybe the pokemon-age brats around the world. (heh I used to love pokemon, but the important thing is, I don't anymore!).

    1. Re:OMG by EvilFrog · · Score: 1

      If you used to watch Pokemon, you are likely too young to understand. This is about nostalgia for people who grew up watching Transformers back in the '80s.

      Honestly? The show was just a long commercial for a gimmicky line of toys. But back then it rocked my world.

    2. Re:OMG by LucBorg · · Score: 1

      Fair play, I bet there is a large enough market for it. It's like the Citroen car ads where the car turns into a transformer robot and does a dance to some groovy mussssak. You'll know about this if you live in the UK.

  46. I don't blame... by stubear · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...Michael Bay for the pitiful excuse of a movie Pearl Harbor turned out to be. I blame Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett for sucking so bad at acting. For this one need only look to the casting director. Michael Bay is good at directing pure adrenaline fueled action sequences and he'd done three that in my opinion are tough to top; 1) the attack sequence of Pearl Harbor in Pearl Harbor, 2) the car chase between the H1 and teh Ferrari in The Rock, and 3) the F-18 approach/ bombing of Alcatraz in The Rock. Keeping in mind that The Rock never aspired to be the next Citizen Kane, I'd even go as far as to say that it was a pretty decent action movie.

    1. Re:I don't blame... by kidMike · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure, but it feels like there's More to this story Than Meets The Eye...

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    2. Re:I don't blame... by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      I agree with you -- for the most part. I think Bad Boys 2 is an excellent movie considering it is a dumb buddy cop film. My friend calls movies like BB2 "Actionation" in that there's so much action you almost have to repeat the name of it.

      Robert Rodriguez does not make flawless movies. I loved i>El Mariachi and Desperado but Once Upon a Time in Mexico was just really silly and boring, despite all the action.

      I do not agree with you on the H1/Ferrari car chase in The Rock. Look at the chase again now, half of the intensity is created by literally tilting the camera / perspective left and right. It's just psychological tricks. I would go for the car chase in Bad Boys 2 (which is excellent), but also the ones in Bullit and Bourne Identity. I hear French Connection has good chases too, but I have never seen the movie.

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    3. Re:I don't blame... by hrieke · · Score: 1

      Of course it never occured to you that the actors after reading the script said, "I'm being paid xx millions for this pile of crap?", and then acted the roles as if they where thinking of ways of spending their money?

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    4. Re:I don't blame... by sehryan · · Score: 1

      Car chases....Ronin. If it can measure up to any one of those chases, then it is an excellent scene.

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    5. Re:I don't blame... by mskfisher · · Score: 1

      I agree with exactly two thirds of what you said.

      1) You're spot on about Once Upon a Time in Mexico. It lacked cohesion. It left me on the outside, looking in.

      2) Ronin and Bullitt have absolutely AWESOME car chases. I stopped to watch a car chase scene from Ronin in an electronics store, and I was hooked. Few movies manage to convey that "white-knuckle" tent

      3) However, Bad Boys 2 was, overall, merely a poor caricature of Bad Boys. It tried to intensify the action that Bad Boys had, but only succeeded in creating ridiculous scenes that never fit together. Everything felt forced and unnatural, especially the "comedy." (Martin Lawrence on Ecstacy, making out with a corpse? Please.)
      Bad Boys, by contrast, had style. It could be taken as a whole. It was over-the-top, but in a remarkably-crafted way. I should've never expected a sequel to come close.
      I will have to rent Bad Boys 2 to see the car chase sequence again, though... you've piqued my interest.

      3a) While I'm on a roll, let me toss in Lethal Weapon 4. That movie was a shining example of "forced." Everything was awful. From Chris Rock's out-of-place rant about cellphones (obviously ripped from his act) to the clunky dialogue between Riggs, Murtaugh, and Getz (had to look that one up)... not to mention that I've never liked Rene Russo.
      As one IMDb reviewer put it, Lethal Weapon 4 was "a contrived cast reunion movie."

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    6. Re:I don't blame... by The-Bus · · Score: 1
      Good points. To me, the Lethal Weapon series was one that improved with each episode (mind you, I was seeing these before I was in my teens). With the exception of the fourth installment.

      I have to admit I have a soft spot for Bad Boys 2 only because it's one of those movies you've seen a bunch of times, and you had a good time while doing it, so you attribute some magical qualities to it. The first is better, the second is just... more. It's one of those movies you can pop in and enjoy. Unlike, say, The Seventh Seal, where you need to be in super-serious scholar-mode otherwise you'll fall asleep. That both of these inhabit the same medium is astonishing.

      As far as Michael Bay is concerned, if you see stuff like Battleship Potemkin you see some of the same cinema tricks being applied (close-ups, tension created by a child in peril*). Human reactions are still the same, years later.

      The difference between Eisenstein and Bay is that Eisenstein did it as art, crafted within it a serious discourse of socio-political events, and did it eighty years ago.

      * A "child in peril" being, I think, later literally trademarked by John Woo, along with slow-mo of flying doves.
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    7. Re:I don't blame... by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      I bought the French Connection because of the claims that it has great car chases, but I've yet to actually find said car chase (or watch the whole movie). I just skiped to the chapters that sounded like they might involve a car chase, and then just saw some guy driving around under an elevated train, chasing some other guy on foot. Then he shot the guy he was chasing. The movie appears a little slow, and I haven't had *that* much free time yet. I haven't watched "Vanishing Point" yet, either, but it's supposed to have some entertaining driving scenes as well. I bought them at the same time.

      Bullit has a cool car chase that lasts for like half of the movie, and involves cool cars. Ronin's chases aren't the most exciting on the surface, but rank right at the very top of my list due to the driving skills and the observation that those aren't exactly sports cars in the chase.

      BTW, I'm particulary dissapointed in the chase(s) in [the modern] Gone in 60 Seconds - esp when he's driving Elanor through the viaduct. In the interview (on the DVD), the director says that they filmed it at like 30MPh and then played it back at 4x speed. Like that wasn't obvious in the movie...

  47. Better Director by slungsolow · · Score: 1

    Paul Verhoeven.

    there will be boobs in this movie.

  48. "Live Action"? by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

    how can a film - thats going to take a long period of time to make -ever be called "Live" ? Action Movie - yes . But its only "Live" if its happening as you watch it. This is obviously impossible.

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    1. Re:"Live Action"? by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      I think they want "Live Action" to mean that it will look like Robot jox which could be started and finished by summer. Probably what will happen is the movie will be CGI with background platess being photographed ala "Walking with Dinosaurs" and the textures will be from photographed machinery

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  49. Why Is This Nessesary? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

    Why is it that people feel the need for something to be "Hollywoodised" in order to somehow proclaim it's greatness to the world. "They should make a movie of this!" Why? Why is it nessesary to transfer something to the big screen? What is it about a movie that will somehow make something better?

    Hollywood rewrites tend to be trite compacted affairs, dumbed down for the censors. They almost invariable bastardise and demean the material they base themselves off. Go ahead mention the Lord of the Rings. I have only one thing to say. The Doom movie will not be set on Mars and there will be no hell demons.

    This movie will suck. This is not conjecture. This is solid fact. Trying to compress the entire series(es) of transformers into 109 minutes intended to appeal to the lowest common denominator, WILL result in a dissapointment for fans. the very same fans who keep saying "They should make a movie of this!". Let me tell you something. They shouldn't.

    Be careful what you wish for.

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  50. I for one ... by LukePieStalker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ... welcome our Transformer overlords.

  51. Bender by kannibul · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I think they should have Bender in there somewhere.

  52. Please please please.... by Sanity · · Score: 1

    ...let the guys who did this movie do Transformers!

  53. Apprently? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apprently? That like the Apprentice mixed with a Bentley?

  54. "Oh shit, what do we do now?" by NeoBeans · · Score: 1

    I wonder if we'll be fortunate enough to hear Spike curse again... (Since he directed "Bad Boys II", I can always hope...)

  55. The Obvious Issue by sagenumen · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're all missing the real issue here.

    The submitter used a colon after a verb; clearly, this is the more important issue at hand.

  56. Someone set up us "the bomb Pearl Harbor" by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

    What does this mean?

    Did the movie bomb? (Fared poorly at the box office?)
    Was the movie da bomb? (Good, eg critically acclaimed?)
    Did they bomb pearl harbor? (historically accurate!)

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    1. Re:Someone set up us "the bomb Pearl Harbor" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it means their base are belong to us

  57. Dude, Give Credit Where Credit's Due by BRock97 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dude, if you are going to rip someone's lyrics, at least give the source. This fine song is called The End of an Act from the Team America World Police soundtrack. Highly recommend it if you want to laugh your ass off.

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    1. Re:Dude, Give Credit Where Credit's Due by mrjb · · Score: 1

      > Highly recommend it if you want to laugh your ass off. Come on in that case, *someone* give it the one missing mod point to move it up to +5 then? Thank-you.

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    2. Re:Dude, Give Credit Where Credit's Due by Will_Malverson · · Score: 1
      ...This fine song is called The End of an Act from the Team America World Police soundtrack...

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      Or $1.05 as mentioned in the same movie.
    3. Re:Dude, Give Credit Where Credit's Due by BRock97 · · Score: 1

      LOL! Very nice.....

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  58. Focus on the Jewish One - Ang Lee Should Direct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think there is potential emotional resonance focusing on the Jewish one. Some good back-story is a possibility, balancing the life of a transformer with that of an observant Jew, living as a religious minority in an uncaring, unchanging world, observing the horrors of the purging of the Warsaw Ghetto while posing as a lamp post.

  59. Movie Suckage is not always the director's fault by stlhawkeye · · Score: 1
    Bear in mind that films that suck are sometimes forced to suck by the parent company and the desired rating from the MPAA.

    Pearl Harbor was a Disney film intended to be a "feel good" romantic yarn about war staring big-name pretty actors and it had, as I recall, a PG or PG-13 label.

    A typical Family Guy episode would be rated R if it was in theatres. The MPAA would take one look at Glen Quagmire with a hooker and slap "R" on there.

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  60. Get It RIGHT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Transformers are divided into two groups of robots..."

    They're called autobots and decepticons, dumbasses!!! geez, does no one remember their 80's trivia?

  61. Ruin something else... by Reignking · · Score: 0

    I hope they don't ruin Transformers, but instead, ruin Gobots, which no one has ever seem to care about...

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  62. Maybe this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope i don't leave the theater crying like i did for the last Transformers movie when Optimus died.

  63. I think the real question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    will any of the bots sport corporate sponsor logos? And if so, will the bots made by Ford blow up spontaenously like defective Fords in real life? The death toll could be even higher than the last Transformer movie if everyone blows up with the slightest bumps during chases and fist fights. Oh the humanity!

  64. The one thing that will save this movie... by IdJit · · Score: 1

    is if these guys do all the robotics.

  65. Michael Bay is great at blowing stuff up by MCTFB · · Score: 1

    at least when you go see his movies, you are almost guaranteed to see a bunch of things blowing up, which usually is worth the price of admission for me (yah, yah, yah I have a strong bias towards B quality action movies like Delta Force). For this particular movie, I cannot think of a better director for the job, but I guess we will all wait and see. The guy who I would pick second to Bay to direct this movie would be Roland Emmerich who did Independence Day, Godzilla, the Day After Tomorrow.

  66. This better not be stupid by MrLint · · Score: 1

    If this movie goes anfd uses the dumbass plotlines and moralistic BS from these new cartoons (transformers energon and so on) I swear to god i am gonna bomb cyberton back into the steam age.

  67. "Pearl Harbor" a bomb? by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

    According to one of the industry's leading insider websites, the movie has grossed almost 450 million dollars worldwide. That means...

    It's number 60 on the ALL-TIME domestic takes, and number FIFTY-TWO all-time worldwide.

    But you read on rotten tomatoes that it was a bomb, and you're sticking to it.

    1. Re:"Pearl Harbor" a bomb? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, having seen the movie, it was a total piece of shit that failed because it tried to be a romantic chick-flick and a gonzo action shoooter at the same time. Only Top Gun is allowed to do that. Financial success has to be ignored in the interest of artistic purity because the ignorant masses are stupid.

    2. Re:"Pearl Harbor" a bomb? by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      How does 'piece of shit' equal 'bomb'?
      It may arguably have been be a piece of shit as you say. But to say it was a bomb is just stupid. Or is the success of any given thing directly tied to your impression of said thing?

      Let's put it another way shall we:
      If that movie was a bomb, what should we call your life? I'm fairly certain that you won't be as big of a commercial success over your entire lifetime as that movie was over a single year.

      Get the point? Your opinion can be valid, but it can NOT change the facts. You look like a fool when you try to though, so thanks for the laugh.

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    3. Re:"Pearl Harbor" a bomb? by che.kai-jei · · Score: 1

      why would we care about the financial success of any film? let alone the past films of hack michael bay? how would it have any bearing on the new movie?
      answer: we dont and it does not!
      we care about the content and quality of a film we may or may not pay to see.
      so therefore we care if the past performances of michael bay can be reliably extrapolated to predict that his handling of the Transformers movie will be dire.
      'bomb' for this user and for me ; is in critical terms only.

      hint: do you ever watch a movie and think "wow this movie made a bajillion dollars! woohoo! lots of other people saw this !! i feel great!"

    4. Re:"Pearl Harbor" a bomb? by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Yes and?

      The point is not your stance, but rather your choice of language. The label 'bomb' is applied to a movie that does poorly financially. What you're talking about is a movie that sucks. They are not mutually exclusive. Pearl Harbor may have sucked, but it most certainly wasn't a bomb.

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  68. John Rogers by Highlordexecutioner · · Score: 1

    John Rogers who wrote the Catwoman screenplay (the first draft at least) is writing the screenplay for Transformers. He has a blog over at Kung Fu Monkey

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  69. News for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Transformers? Why can't there be an 80s section so we can filter out this crap. I come here to be informed of genuinely interesting news in tech and science, and I come in this morning and find something about some defunct 80s license being worked over by some explosion-fetish director. What gives, Slashdot? Where's my daily dose of Apple worship? Get on the ball! And what's with the IT color scheme?

    I dunno, I just thought this thread felt empty without a narrow-minded and baseless complaint. It happens every time anime is mentioned, why not Transformers?

  70. They should've renamed Pearl Harbor to by leroybrown · · Score: 1

    World War 90210

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  71. Will it have the usual Plot? by Andy+Mitchell · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I assume I'm not alone in thinking the plot will be:

    • Megatron comes up with a scheme to fill enough energon cubes to defeat the Autobots and generally take over the galaxy.
    • Plot nears completion when Megatron gets greedy and decides one galaxy just isn't enough for a self respecting Deceptercon.
    • Starscream points out he is pushing the system too far and is going to backfire on them soon.
    • Megatron shoots Starscream.
    • Autobots seise victory from the jaws of defeat thanks to Megatron being a "Muppetron".

    The TV series followed a variation of that plot every time. Personally, I always thought it sucked when I was a kid.

  72. Team America said it best.. by squison · · Score: 1

    "Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies? Cause Pearl Harbor sucked, just a little bit more than I miss you..."

  73. Will we still be alive in 2006? by anduril1 · · Score: 1

    According to Transformers: The Movie , the Decepticons attack Autobot City in the year 2005. In the assault, Optimus Prime is destroyed, and the Autobots are left in the gravest situation yet.

    To make matters worse Unicron is flying around eating planets.

    Isn't anybody else worried?

  74. Live Action, My Shiny Metal Ass by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    Nowadays with these ultra-blockbuster-super-duper-small-country-sized budgets, what they mean by live action is "We'll have live actors dancing around in front of a blue screen, and absolutely everything else will be computer animated." I mean, it's almost like calling Bakshi's Lord of the Rings films "live action".

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  75. Look like this? by DarkMantle · · Score: 1

    If it looks like this Commercial and has the original characters then I'll watch it.

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  76. Step aside, episode 1. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Pearl Harbor," "Armageddon" and "The Rock."

    So, we're in for a movie that's either utterly implausable, but pretends to be plausible ("Armageddon", "The Rock"), or one that's completely insipid ("Pearl Harbor").

    Combine that director with the "Transformers", and we're about to get a horrible movie that completely ruins the "Transformers" franchise. Step aside, Episode 1.

  77. No he cannot... by MKalus · · Score: 1

    Robert Rodriguez left the DGA and thus the studio can in all likelyhood not hire him....

    Don't forget, Hollywood is a Union Shop.

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  78. Rodriguez can't... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Robert Rodriguez quit the Directors Guild of America, which almost assuredly counts him out of a lot of opportunities.

    Stupid Hollywood rules.

  79. Affleck, you the bomb in Phantoms yo! by geek_xyu · · Score: 1

    Where Pearl harbor went wrong was not in the acting. It was the mere fact that the movie was more about a stupid love triangle then it was about the actual attack. If a movie is called Pearl Harbor. It should be about Pearl Harbor. Otherwise call it another lame Michael Bay Movie.

    Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies?

  80. Nothing left of my Childhood by jakel2k · · Score: 1

    Hollywood is raping my childhood!!! AvP, Jason vs Freddy, Star Wars, Terminator... now they go and mess with my after school cartoon with a live action version? What's next a live action G.I.Joe?

    Once again I'll get my hopes up and "hope" that this will not be a let down. But I do not expect much from this movie since it will be very difficult to do. It will be likely targeted to kids and make it a G rating, thus making it a tame and actionless flick. Even the original transformers movie wasn't geared towards kids, which made it that much more better.

    Note: Spider-man, X-Men, and Hulk were at least not let downs. I also hope that Superman V will not be a let down also.

  81. What a stroke of luck! by jtseng · · Score: 1

    This guy is totally in luck; the movie producers can certainly use his help!

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/ 06/0311236&tid=216&tid=159

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  82. What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As I recall, there are no humans in Transformers. It's all robots that change shapes. What's the "live action" part? Are they planning on building motorized models of the robots?

  83. The Transformers Movie by raddan · · Score: 1

    ...from the producers that brought you "Air Guitar"! Starring Timmy as Optimus Prime and his brother as... oh wait... his brother wants to be Optimus Prime, too...

  84. No way for Bird by rjung2k · · Score: 1

    As both a Pixar junkie and a Transformers junkie, I have to say that I can't see any way on Primus' own Cybertron for Brad Bird to ever do a "popcorn movie" based on a licensed property.

    He pissed off enough people to get fired from three different studios when he was working "in the system"; I can't imagine the toy-based dictates of Hasbro being any easier to deal with.

    1. Re:No way for Bird by LaPistola · · Score: 0

      Yeah.. I said that as an "I wish" statement.. Pixar itself would never do it ether. And really thats better. Pixar does what it does best, and thats creating totally new stories.

  85. Why throw away your life so recklessly??? by jzarling · · Score: 1

    That's a question you should ask YOURSELF, Micheal Bay?

    Lets all repeat after me
    LIVE ACTION MOVIES MADE FROM CARTOONS ARE NEVER ANY GOOD!!

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  86. But Transformers was just a 20min toy advert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    thinly disguised as a cartoon so it could get around the advertising laws

    creativity is dead in American film
    the pioneers of film will be turning in their graves

  87. Only on Slashdot by yetanothermike · · Score: 1
    Only on Slashdot, reading at +2 no less, can I see people debating the semantics of both calling Pearl Harbor a bomb and morphing versus transforming.

    Man, I love this place!

    Did anyone see the test reel on Robot Chicken? I laughed, I cried, it became a part of me.

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  88. Don't forget Michael Jackson, sir by springMute · · Score: 1

    Not only has he debuted a video with really well done morphs (to be followed by hundreds of pretty bad copycats), but he's a morph himself.

  89. And the soundtrack... by RichDice · · Score: 1
    ... will it be by Optimus Rhyme?

    Cheers,
    Richard

  90. Bumble Bee will now be a C4 by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 1

    If the actors can pull it off, this could be an awesome movie.

    I hope it looks more like this commercial then Jar Jar.
    http://theembassyvfx.com/citroen.html

    1. Re:Bumble Bee will now be a C4 by Holi · · Score: 1

      Hmm that looks more like a Go-Bot then a Transformer.

      Just my opinion

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  91. Robert Rodriguez, king of overrated by ArmenTanzarian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sorry, his treatment of Sin City may be nice, but it's because Miller already did the storyboards for him. Anyone who sat through all three Spy Kids movies in the theatres (with my nephew) can give you about 5000 reasons to distrust his direction.

    1. Re:Robert Rodriguez, king of overrated by Wubby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreed!

      NPR did an interview with him a couple years ago. He talked about how people were surprised that he did the Spy Kids movies after such fare as "From Dusk 'Til Dawn" and "El Mariachi" (sp?). He said he always wanted to do the Spy Kids type movies, the others were just to make the money.

      My point is I see him as a kind of George Lucas, he made "Star Wars" and everyone thought he was going to be this great scifi director, when in fact all he wanted to do was make cheezy kids movies with puppets and "Little People" in fuzzy costumes.

      I'm not saying I don't like Rodriguez. He's very honest about what he makes. He doesn't try to pass "Spy Kids 3D" off as some great epic. I didn't like it, but my kids did and I think that's all that matters.

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    2. Re:Robert Rodriguez, king of overrated by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spy kids movies are a sucess, made with a relative low budget and gaining millons of dollars either at box office and product placement, it's enough to keep the suits in hollywood happy.
      More info here:
      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227538/business

      Same thing happened with "El mariachi". A decent, cheap home made film that gained a lot's of money and sometimes it's used as an example of amateur filming in some schools..

    3. Re:Robert Rodriguez, king of overrated by Doc+Ido · · Score: 1

      Yeah, at least you aren't going to see him make the El Mariachi prequel trilogy where the main character is a a wide-eyed banjo-playing kid who gets into wacky hijinx with his talking CGI-generated llama.

  92. durfy durfy by delmoi · · Score: 0, Troll

    Perl harbor cost $200 million to make, and made back $197 million. Thus, it did not make back a profit. That's the definition of a bomb.

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    1. Re:durfy durfy by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      "Thus, it did not make back a profit. That's the definition of a bomb."

      If it made $197 million so far it will eventually be at least mildly profitable from DVD and TV sales. A movie like 'Thunderbirds' which cost $70 million and made about $5 million is a much better example of a 'bomb'.

    2. Re:durfy durfy by King+Fuckstain · · Score: 1
      I'd define a bomb a bit differently than you. For a movie to bomb, it's got to do more than just not make a profit - it has got to miss the mark by a lot. If Pearl Harbor had made 50 million, then I'd say it was a bomb.

      If my soda at the 7-11 costs 2.00 and I can only come up with 1.97, I haven't fucking failed it but instead just grab 3 pennies from the counter.

      Oh, you spelled the movie's title incorrectly.

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    3. Re:durfy durfy by BewireNomali · · Score: 2, Insightful

      PEARL HARBOR
      domestic: $198,542,554
      international: $250,678,391
      worldwide: $449,220,945

      A healthy profit. the numbers don't even include dvd sales. Most blockbusters are now designed to break even domestically and thrive internationally. DVD sales almost always trump box office anyway. So the film turned a healthy profit (www.boxofficemojo.com if you want more numbers).

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    4. Re:durfy durfy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pearl Harbor made 450 million world wide, hardly a bomb, especially by your definition...oh and it is number 60 on the all time domestic list, not bad for a 3hr + film.

      Movies in the top 60 that were 3 hours or more:
      Titanic
      LoTR - Return of th King (other two were slightly under 3 hrs.)
      Gone With the Wind
      Pearl Harbor ....yeah, one of four movies in top sixty, those others look pretty much like bombs too

    5. Re:durfy durfy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, only two of the four you listed were worth watching.

      I'll let you guess which two...

    6. Re:durfy durfy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worth watching and being a bomb are not the same thing, a movie that doubles its money world wide prior to DVD release (which was huge for this movie with many different versions) is most definitely not a bomb

  93. Transformers... by MadMorf · · Score: 1

    ...GoBots in disguise!

    I guess you had to be there.

    1. Re:Transformers... by clickster · · Score: 1

      Because the Go-Bots were so original.

      Did the Go-Bot's mobile base look a lot like an AT-AT from the Star Wars Trilogy to anyone else?

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  94. Re:News? Right. by techstar25 · · Score: 1

    Actually the news is that Micheal Bay is in talks to direct. That is a brand new revelation. There has not been a director attached until now. For some reason I remember hearing something about Bryan Singer (X-Men, Superman), but that was probably just rumors. This however might be the first mention of a TF movie on Slashdot, and for many people, Slashdot is the ONLY stuff that matters.
    This is the kind of project Bay was born to direct - with his way over the top frantic action style (such as Bad Boys II bridge car chase scene).

  95. Total Annihilation by omnix · · Score: 1

    I would prefer to see TA made into a movie, instead of Transformers.

    1. Re:Total Annihilation by LoP_XTC · · Score: 1

      Check out Cinemax any night after 8pm ... they have turned T&A into a number of movies :)

      Aaron

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  96. Could be good... check out Citroen C4 TV Ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this... go to http://www.citroen.co.uk. Check out the TV ad for the C4.

    1. Re:Could be good... check out Citroen C4 TV Ad by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

      Makes sense, since all his fucking MOVIES look like TV COMMERCIALS..

      There are whole sequences of 'Armageddon' that look like they've been brought to you by AT&T.. Or Chevrolet the Sprit of America..

      The fact that I got suckered into 'Armageddon' alone is enough for me to want him dead. He's got all the sincerity of Paris Hilton without the talent.

    2. Re:Could be good... check out Citroen C4 TV Ad by Holi · · Score: 1
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  97. Please, dear God... by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

    ... Someone, for the sake of all humanity, kill Michael Bay before he makes movies again.

    I mean, how else is he going to be stopped?

    Someone needs to tear out his black, oozing, horrible-movie-loving heart and toss into the cleansing fires of Kali.

    Did I mention he should die?

    (and he should take Uwe Boll with him.)

  98. Good summary by Control-Z · · Score: 1

    The Transformers are divided into two groups of robots, one led by Optimus Prime, which believes in tolerance and the sanctity of life, the other by Megatron, which espouses survival of the fittest and the extermination of biological life.

    Sure hope this movie happens, and that it doesn't suck. But I don't expect much.

  99. Why bad? by gmhowell · · Score: 1

    Why would the CGI be bad? There's plenty of good CGI, and plenty of bad. Not to mention that since most of the possible CGI would be robots, several factors are removed or minimized: No crazy texture maps, and little->no facial expressions. Joints don't have to be seamless. You can see some gap between the arm and wrist for example.

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  100. Just bring back the original animated series by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A live action Transformes movie would be pointlessly expensive and lame.

    They would be better off bringing back the original Transformers series using modern animation, and targeting it as scifi for adults rather than a silly cartoon for kids.

    The original US Transformers generation 1 series had a more personal, emotional, sci-fi aspect to it than do the modern shows like Transformers Armageddon. Granted, it had its 80's cheese factor (like, how many oil rig workers do you know who wear hard hats all the time on land and write touchy-feely entries in their diary every day?) But it also had better-written dialog and stories that were delivered with a more serious and measured touch.

    The newer shows have better animation and dropped the corny 80's feel, but in the process picked up the corny 90's feel and all the horrible attributes of those ridiculous american-anime shows like YuGiOh and DragonballZ: terrible dialog spoken too fast and characters who do nothing but boast stupidly at each other constantly about their superior fighting powers like it's a pissing contest.

    If they would just return to the original writing, characters, and story, but do it all using modern animation (maybe CGI), and target it more as scifi for the 20+ crowd instead of as cartoons for kids, then I think they'd really have something.

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    1. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by mad+flyer · · Score: 1

      I agree for the annoying parts of YuGiOh and DragonballZ... But methink they are japanese... a little...

    2. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by David+M.+Sweeney · · Score: 2, Insightful
      They would be better off bringing back the original Transformers series using modern animation, and targeting it as scifi for adults rather than a silly cartoon for kids.

      A movie about robots that transform into big rigs and boom boxes... aimed at adults. You lost me there, amigo.

    3. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 1

      So then did the new Battlestar Galactica remake or the original Star Wars lose you when they had "whoosh whoosh" engine noises and gunfire sounds in the vaccuum of space?

      It's called suspension of disbelief. All SciFi has fiction to it -- otherwise it would just be science, and that's not much fun.

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    4. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I think a live action movie would be fantastic. Unfortunately Transformers has always been targeted at pretty young audiences and I don't expect this to be any exception. If the graphics are as good as they ought to be, it could be really fantastic to watch.

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    5. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by MustardMan · · Score: 1

      A movie about robots that transform into big rigs and boom boxes... aimed at adults. You lost me there, amigo

      Yeah, because that whole show about the french fries, meatball, and fucking milkshake, targetted at adults... is doing SOOO poorly, let me tell you.

      Being an adult doesn't mean you immediately have to dismiss absurd concepts. Stop taking things so seriously and have a little fun now and then.

    6. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by srstoneb · · Score: 1

      Based on your comments, I suspect you have not *watched* the original series recently. Give it another look. Although there were some relatively serious episodes, it is on the whole quite clearly a show that was being written in a hurry and for the paycheck. It's just as full of ridiculous stories and plot holes as any other series. If you're looking for "scifi for adults" in Transformers, the only thing that comes close is the CG "Beast Wars" cartoon.

    7. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 1

      Actually, I own season 1 of the original series on DVD, so it's quite fresh in my head. Yeah, it had plot holes, low-budget animation with obvious mistakes, etc... but none of that mattered so much because they got the characters, the writing, the voice-acting, and the overall "virtual universe" & over-arching storyline right. All those good aspects are basically missing from the newer Transformers cartoons I've seen.

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    8. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by Raptor+CK · · Score: 1

      Yes. More mature.

      Dear God, have you *seen* the original series? It's embarrassing. From Prime's complete lack of sense and Megatron's less-than-brilliant schemes to placing Spike's brain in some hodgepodge spare-parts Autobot body.

      Wait, what about the doppleganger Prime? Even though he screws up everyone's names, can't operate Teletran-1, and otherwise just acts strangely, what's the brilliant solution to find out which one is the real Prime? Let's have a race!

      If that hasn't convinced you of the sheer idiocy of the original series, I have three words for you. Big. Blue. Griffin.

      The modern stuff isn't any better. You want a solid story, vaguely mature sci-fi, and a mostly serious take on Transformers? Try Beast Wars. Everything before and after that is pure kidvid junk.

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    9. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. That's way lame when you compare it to serious adult sci-fi fare like "a movie that has a big death ball and some dudes with laser swords". 9_9

    10. Re:Just bring back the original animated series by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 1

      I'm still waiting for the live-action Robotech/Macross movie. The original 80s series was more for adults than kids anyway.

      They could even use an American Idol reject to play Lynn Minmei.

  101. Perhaps update Transformers to 21st century by IronChefMorimoto · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm wondering if they'd make the following adjustments to the Transformers characters to really make the whole movie more "realistic" and proper to the 21st century:

    • Dinobots will moonlight on Discovery Channel during those "back in time" dinosaur documentaries
    • Optimus Prime will be based at the "Highway 7 Boobs'n'Burgers" when not saving the world
    • Autobots disguised as GM products will frequently be out of commission due to recalls
    • Starscream will make the news when he accidentally strafes an unoccupied middle school
    • Megatron will find many of his plans foiled by gun control advocates
    • Two of the Insecticons die horribly when they move through a suburban neighborhood rife with treatments of Andro Fire Ant Bait
    • The Constructicons will often be missing in action, idling near a highway construction project looking at a hole in the 2 left lanes while taking a lunch break that snarls rush hour traffic
    • That Autobot city (can't remember the name) will never be truly effective as a weapon, mainly because City Hall is chock full of corruption and budget cuts
    • Omnicron will make it to Earth at the end of the movie, only because George Bush kills the funding for the Voyager probe that MIGHT have seen him coming

    IronChefMorimoto

    1. Re:Perhaps update Transformers to 21st century by tquinlan · · Score: 1

      Metroplex is the name of the city... and it's UniCron, not Omnicron. ;)

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  102. Comes down to the script by erikharrison · · Score: 1

    Michael Bay is a slick technician, but not the right age for fandom. A Transformers movie isn't really a place for an auteur to provide vision, so it comes down to a good script and a willingness for everyone involved to have a good time.

    I give it a 50-50 chance

  103. ewwwwwwe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You said "tranny".
    :-6''''''

  104. This Just In! by GeckoX · · Score: 1

    News Headline: Kids enjoy kids movie! Adults hate kids movie! More at 11.

    Now, if you went to that movie expecting to enjoy it, we've got issues...

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    1. Re:This Just In! by ArmenTanzarian · · Score: 1

      Well personally, I think everything he's done since El Mariachi is devoid of art, but I realize that's not necessarily a popular opinion here.

  105. Kill me now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The passion around the whole Transfan culture gives me the creeps. These guys make S&M Klingon cosplayers look well-adjusted. I particularly like Tom Franck's take on the lot (scroll down to "NEW GEEK HIERARCHY"). I guess I'll never understand the culture of worshipping toy commericials. Now worshipping TOYS I can understand... >:>

  106. MOD UP -- COOL AD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, I hadn't seen that before. Such a movie might not suck after all!

  107. HEY MODS! by GeckoX · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You're not helping any by modding up trolls that are either blatantly lying or are too stupid to get their facts straight.

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  108. As long as... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 1

    They feature the original characters and not some of the newer tosh.

    I'd personally be just as happy to see Transformers: The Movie remastered and re-released at the cinema. It would be awesome to watch that on the big screen.

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  109. Don't mess this up. by RAMGarden · · Score: 1

    I'm sure most of us 80's kids watched the Transformers series, Transformers the Movie, and had a few (if not all) the toys. So I would like to ask as a fan of the Transformers, please oh please don't mess this up by moving away from the original story or trying to put people in costumes like they are some kind of Power Ranger robot thing.

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  110. Ever see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  111. Transformers' Live Action Movie from DreamWork by chrisnewbie · · Score: 1

    Michael bay and transformers???

    Hope he sticks with the cartoons and leave the slow motion flapping american flag on planet earth!

  112. Re: "Live Action" by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    "Live Action" is part animation in just about every movie these days. The "live" actors are starting to be replaced with CG if they need to sneeze. Those of us with CG backgrounds can see it all clearly. Its worse to see a human CG swap for us than to just make the whole thing CG.

    I say just make the stuff all animation since people identify with that better, and so what if american adults still don't take animation seriously. Its transformers people! The plot should turn off anyone over 12 anyway.

  113. Transformers BREAK DANCE by Pike · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You know, it could still be really cool and quite inexpensive...

    ...if they made it something like this!

    plus explosions of course.

    oh yes.

    1. Re:Transformers BREAK DANCE by mink · · Score: 1

      Breakin III: Energon bugaloo ?

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  114. its gotta have that theme song! by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

    you know that one i mean... no no! not the techno-rock theme from the show, that's played out, i'm talking about the old school hair-metal rock ballad!

    You got the touch!
    You got the pooowwwww-er!

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  115. Jesus fucking wiped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy shit.

    A "live action" movie? That son of a bitch will crater like a Durandal when it hits the theatre. Anything but pure CGI will fail, and it won't even fail spectacularly like Terri Shievo's parents. It will just be a miserable failure like that Super Mario movie.

    I'm punching the ignore button on this one.

  116. News! by Angron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    New! From the director who brought you Pearl Harbor and the screenwriter who brought you Catwoman! It's....your childhood being beaten with a baseball bat. Sigh.

    -A

    1. Re:News! by JediLow · · Score: 0

      aka: the prequel Star Wars?

  117. Oh god please. Robert Rodriguez? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's like the mexican equivalent of Quentin Tarantino: independent, very talented, and known for gory, violent movies. Probably moreso than Quentin.

    Transformers is a child's cartoon. Do we really want this great old-school saturday morning favorite to become some shoot-em-up action movie? Granted much of the old series was flying around and shooting things, but not with a lot of real "action"; once you got hit you went down but didn't die. It was all very child friendly but cool at the same time.

    All i'm saying is a director that's less impressive will do fine for this film. What about the guy who did X-Men? As long as it looks pretty and has tons of CG I don't think you can go wrong with the Transformers.

    1. Re:Oh god please. Robert Rodriguez? by StalfrosGR · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Somebody didn't see the full length Transformers:The Movie with Orson Wells as Unicron. Although it was rated PG in 1987 I bet it would pull a PG 13 rating if released tomorrow. Besides, Transformers was a comic book before a hit cartoon. According to IGN Film Force Spielberg himself will be producing it and he seems to be a fan of the original comic book series. http://filmforce.ign.com/transformers/

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    2. Re:Oh god please. Robert Rodriguez? by UWC · · Score: 1
      Interesting trivia: the Transformers movie was the first animated feature ever rated PG. Also on the movie subject, most people say that Welles died before he finished his work and that Nimoy (who voiced Galvatron in the movie) recorded the remainder of the Unicron lines.

      Also, the comic and cartoon came out around the same time, the comic probably coming out first due to the shorter production cycle of a comic book issue. Both were of course to promote and/or gain sales from a toy line composed of imports from several separate Japanese lines, which is why you have some that transform into full size vehicles, and others that transform into smaller items like guns and stereos, and a pretty wide range of construction methods, quality, and size across the line. The comic was not all that great, though they apparently incorporated it into the whole Marvel universe, with Spider-Man guest starring in one of the first few issues and the Savage Land figuring into the origin of the Dinobots. There were a few stories later on in the run that were okay. Fan favorite writer Simon Furman added some interesting backstory mythology to the universe, incorporating Unicron into some creation myth with another elder robot god of some sort called Primus. Furman also wrote the shorter "Generation 2" comic run, which was actually pretty good, and worked on the last few episodes of the Beast Wars show, which explains some of the craziness introduced there with the Book of Primus and the like.

      Oh, and to the person claiming that Rodriguez can't do family style violence, in addition to the bloodfests like El Mariachi and Sin City, he also made Spy Kids 1-3, the first two of which weren't all that bad (3 sucked completely, even the Ricardo Montalban parts).

  118. Sequel Already in the Works!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Transforms vs. Voltron

  119. not that it matters... by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

    your sig is funny. Just thought I'd point out though that while there may not be a "we" in "team," there is a "team" in "team."

    I actually used to have someone that would tell me that stupid little saying. It was annoying crap like that which made me unable to work with him. ;)

    1. Re:not that it matters... by flyingsquid · · Score: 1
      your sig is funny. Just thought I'd point out though that while there may not be a "we" in "team," there is a "team" in "team." I actually used to have someone that would tell me that stupid little saying. It was annoying crap like that which made me unable to work with him. ;)

      Just tell him there's also an "e-a-t" and a "m-e" in "team". It's saying like that which drive my office mates crazy...

  120. Transfans...the new Trekkies by inwards · · Score: 1

    The passion around the whole Transfan culture gives me the creeps. These guys make S&M Klingon cosplayers look well-adjusted. I particularly like Tom Franck's take on the lot (scroll down to "NEW GEEK HIERARCHY"). I guess I'll never understand the culture of worshipping toy commericials. Now worshipping TOYS I can understand... :)

  121. There are worse things in this world. by wgaryhas · · Score: 1

    Such as the live action dragon ball z movie.

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  122. Preview by mm0mm · · Score: 2, Funny

    I expect a lot of explosions. Terrible dialogue. An incredibly bad mixture of CGI and reality, the likes of which hasn't been seen since the end of Air Force One.

    here's the pitch clip that was shown by Dreamworks during the recent discussion with Michael Bay. apparently the studio want the film to be very different from Bay's style, which is good.

  123. Voltron!! by starphish · · Score: 1

    I'd rather see Voltron.

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  124. Hollywood is out of ideas by Dracos · · Score: 1

    This is yet further proof. When there are no more comics/cartoons/TV shows/books to license, tinseltown will collapse under its own gluttonous weight.

    While I hope the live action Transformers is cool (read: not suck), I seriously hate Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheiner. All they can direct is a series of improbably explosions linked together by flat dialogue.

  125. "My faith in my fellow man shrank that day." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I stopped at a store on the way home from work today. Parked next to a BIG black car, no idea what this beast was. It first caught my attention because it was idling and it was LOUD. Second thing that caught my attention was this bumper sticker: "Losing my faith in humanity one person at a time." I got a chuckle out of that.

    Got a bigger chuckle when I went back out to my car later and the car was still idling. With a dude leaned up against it talking on his cell phone.

    Chuckle #2.

    People who lock themselves out of their running cars shouldn't have holier-than-though bumper stickers. >:D

  126. follow the sweet scent of money by asoap · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Movie studios today are more like marketing companies then movies that actually want to create a decent story. There are exceptions, but they are mostly intereseted in making money. They are in the business of making money. That is why you are seeing so many geek movies, lord of the rings, xmen, spiderman, x2, spiderman 2, daredevil, hulk, elektra, etc, etc... The reasoning is that these movies are already "pre sold". They are garunteed that no matter how bad it is there will be enough geeks who will HAVE to go see it because they are a fan of the work. That way they are garunteed a return of MONEY. Money money money.

    That is why we see movies like Transformers or Doom being made. If Sin City does well and makes a lot of money. I don't think a movie studio is going to give two shits if the director is in a union or not. If they can use him to make money, they will try to.

    If they want Rodriguez, the union is not going to stop them.

    I do admit that there are people out there that are more interested in making a good movie then money. Although, even when I rent "Finding Neverland" I'm still __FORCED__ to watch a commercial for a Chevrolet Montana Mini Van if i want to watch the movie.

    Now, please do not reply how they are not actually coming to my house and tieing me down to the couch to watch it. If they do not let you fast forward or skip beyond a commercial, there intention is to make you watch it.

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    Treat me like a marketing stat, and I'll treat your movie like a series of ones and zeros
  127. Let's talk in 2007 OK? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "news" coverage of this movie is fucking ridiculous.

    Several names were publicized to have signed on to the project only to sign right back off. Don Murphy's had the message boards up for, what, a year now? And we still know absolutely nothing about this movie except that it's maybe about the TransFormers and C0M1NG S00N!!11 OMGWTFLOLPLZBBQ+1.

    Yet everyone, including Slashdot apparently, feels this trememndous need to cry out across the internet about every half sentence of possible rumor like it actually has any bearing on a film that's got a damend good chance of never seeing the light of day to begin with.

    Enough is enough. Do the fandom a favor and shut up until something noteworthy actually happens.

  128. I don't know... by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

    Really, the whole Transformers premise and storyline are really thin and childish. If you have the huge bufget and SFX, why not do a great BattleTech epic? Really?

  129. this is real old news by Itanshi · · Score: 1

    although dreamwork's involvement may be new, I had even put a mention about this 'live action transformers' on my cheap blog of sorts (not linked here) but if ya search yahoo groups, you'll find it anyways, yeah, i love all out war mecha type series, this could be a fun movie ^^ hehe, like herbie with laser rifles oh wait that's weird

  130. Good work..... by earthstar · · Score: 1
    Goo that You picked out the 'gems' from the movie ....

    Do you read the scripts of movies or what...

    1. Re:Good work..... by sgant · · Score: 1

      no, I sit through the damn things because my wife loves these things. The dialog brands itself into my brain when watching them.

      Then a quick trip over to IMDB gets the quotes I need to illustrate my point.

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      "Leo Fender was in a 'state of grace' when he designed the Stratocaster." -- Paul Reed Smith
  131. I have only six words.... by Prod_Deity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bah weep granah weep ninni bong

    1. Re:I have only six words.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can this not be modded up?
      Obviously, less Transformers fans than I thought...

  132. Not really new... by Robotech_Master · · Score: 1

    ...over on alt.toys.transformers and rec.toys.transformers.moderated (which I co-moderate) they've known for a long time this was in the offing. As you might expect, fans are split in regards to their responses. Some of them are rather upset given that there will be no size-change transformations, so Megatron and Soundwave (if they're in it) won't resemble their G1 selves very much at all.

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  133. but everyone died in the first movie! by evilmousse · · Score: 1


    transformers is the only children's show with the balls to off 95% of its' characters in the first movie.

    let's see pokemon match THAT!

  134. Mainframe Entertainment by echocharlie · · Score: 1

    I hope that Main Frame Entertainment, the company responsible for the CG on Transformers Beast Wars and Beast Machines, will be involved in the project. They did an excellent job on those two series, and I was especially impressed with the work on Beast Wars. Great writing there too.

  135. They may take my FF feature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but they'll never take my mute! Or my ability to watch it once, know its length and turn the TV off for the time it takes to get past it. I hate DVD commercials you are forced to watch. Usually I eventually get curious and watch the ones on DVD's that DON'T force me to sit through them.

    Maybe its just an Anime fan thing though. ^_^

  136. Word bitch, phantoms like a ma'fucka by MustardMan · · Score: 1

    I have to agree. I have seen some movies where affleck really shined, especially the kevin smith movies. (yes, even chasing amy). There are two big problems with affleck: over-exposure, and a tendency to star in really shitty flicks. I think his buddy matt damon is actually the better acter, but when cast properly both of them can be quite good.

    And yeah, pearl harbor should have been more about, well, the whole war thing.

  137. Related story:John Gulager GOBOTs movie to follow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Gulager to direct GOBOTs, the movie. Expect it to be a "B release."

    http://www.geocities.com/planetsabretron/gobots.ht ml

  138. MP3s Turning Into Robots by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 1
    Easy!

    Soundwave clicks a button on himself, which then uploads the MP3, "Ravage" to some popular P2P networks, encumbered by DRM.

    Lawyers then swarm around Soundwave, destroying anything in their paths.

    Yeah, lawyers, not robots. Potatoe, potahto.

    Ravage, Upload!

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    You better watch out, there may be dogs about . . .
  139. And by live action, of course, they mean CG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Live action by today's standards probably means 80% CG rendered.

  140. Re:Related story:John Gulager GOBOTs movie to foll by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

    it will be the crappy rip off movie shown on tv, most likely SciFi channel, but Fox and NBC have both been known to do the same

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    May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage. RAmen.
  141. Who needs another, when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one Transformers movie alone is capable of warping one's childhood?

  142. Bruckheimer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we get Bruckheimer in it, too? I totally loved that Tetris movie he did.

  143. Old news by BobSutan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Welcome to last summer. The official announcement made waves last August for crying out loud.

    --
    "On a scale from 1 to 10, people are stupid"
  144. thanks for saving me the ticket price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hated all of those movies

  145. What about Decepticon? by Red+Cheetah · · Score: 1

    I didn't know Optimus Prime was Jewish?!?!?!

  146. Quick guide to Transformers TV shows by Gax · · Score: 5, Informative

    > the original projected release date was 2005

    Not quite. The projected release date has always been 2006. 2005 was just a date picked by the fans to coincide with the 20th anniversary of the first movie. On the web forum, Don Murphy mentions they were shooting for a summer 2006 release. More information on the movie can be found on the TF - The Movie roundup page. If the first movie is successful, they plan for Unicron to make an appearance in the third one.

    Though many people do not realise it, over 500 episodes of Transformers have been made in their various incarnations.
    Here is a brief rundown of the various Transformer shows that have aired in the last 20 years.

    American shows
    Transformers Generation 1 TV show (American written show, set during 1985-86 and 2005-06)

    2) Transformers Generation 2 TV show (modified version of the G1 series that added an annoying 3D space cube animation.

    Japanese only series
    Transformers: Headmasters (Japanese). Available as an official or partial fandub.

    Transformers: Masterforce (Japanese). Available in official dub or sub-titled versions.

    Transformers Victory (Japanese series) Available as an official dub, fan dub, or subtitled.

    Transformers Zone (Japanese). Available in subtitled or dubbed versions.

    Though transforming robots remained popular in the East, the Transformers line was 'rested' for a few years.

    The Beast Era
    In 1996 the toy line was relaunched. After the disappointing sales of the Generation 2 series, vehicle modes were abandoned and animal forms introduced. Optimus Primal transformed into a gorilla and Megatron became a dinosaur. The Beast era was set years after the original series 300-1000 years, depending upon your source) and introduced two new factions - the Maximals and Predacons.

    Beast Wars - The Autobots and Decepticons are gone and the Maximals and Predacons have made peace. This peace is broken by Megatron (a namesake, not the original), who travels back in time in an attempt to change the course of history. In most episodes he is thwarted by Optimus Primal and a small band of Maximals. The animation shows its age, but it is probably the most intelligently written TF show made (season 2, in particular).

    Beast Machines - The Beast Wars are over and the Maximals return to Cybertron. They find that Megatron has captured the sparks (soul) of every Transformer on the planet and created an army of mindless drones called Vehicons. Best remembered for the strong religious overtones, huge explosions and scenes of the Maximals running away.

    Japanese Beast series
    While the US got the second and third season of Beast Wars, Japan received two spin-off series that focused upon other planets.

    Beast Wars 2 (Japanese). Leo Convoy (lion) Vs Galvatron (dragon).

    Beast Wars Neo (Japanese) - The Maximal leader, Big Convoy (a wooly mammoth) faces against the evil Magmatron. Unlike earlier Convoy/Prime toys, Big Convoy has a removable matrix in his chest.

    Autobots and Decepticons return
    Hasbro's initial plan was to create a followup to the Beast Machines series called Transtech. This would feature vehicle TFs with animal moulding. However, it was later abandoned and Hasbro made a deal

  147. Don't Get Our Hopes Up, Slashdot! by Buster+Chan · · Score: 1

    The original animated TRANSFORMERS movie was one of the best animated films ever made. If they can surpass that scale in the story told, and do some complex battle sequences that make sense and have a point, this could be good.

    I'm reminded of the story that got me interested in Slashdot in the first place. It was years ago, and I saw Slashdot on a friend's computer screen, and there was a story -- like this one -- about plans to make a live action DragonBall Z movie. Me -- still a huge fan of Dragonball Z -- my hopes were raised sky high, and I read the entire discussion, because I'd love a Dragonball Z movie -- especially if WWE's Shaun Michaels were somewhere in the cast.

    Anyway, that story was much like this one, and my hopes were raised, but the Dragonball Z live action film was never made.

    Slashdot -- you accepted this story about this Transformers movie, so I hope you're not just getting my hopes up again.

    Another good live action movie would be about the Thundercats.

    --
    "I am a fictional character."
  148. Pearl Harbor Sucked by Atroxodisse · · Score: 1

    Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies...cause Pearl Harbor Sucked, and I miss you.

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  149. how about you STFU by dustinc20 · · Score: 1

    silly prospect? F U. its obvious you cant think on an intelligible level.

    TRANSFORMERS. MOVIE. AGAIN.YES.
    nuff said.

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    :: if you outlaw outlaws, only the.. no wait
  150. You Can't Beat Those Two "Bad Boys" Movies by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


    for action and comedy. They were good - if you can stand Martin Lawrence, anyway.

    Besides, this is the Transformers. How good can it be? It's a badly conceived, badly animated TV show. So how much worse could it be?

    I'm waiting for the live-action GI Joe movie. I like Destro and Storm Shadow and Zartan and of course the wonderful Cobra Commander!

    Then I'll wait for the live-action GI Joe-Transformers movie - since that's a comic book now.

    --
    Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
    1. Re:You Can't Beat Those Two "Bad Boys" Movies by ElyseMyers · · Score: 1

      Bay's done some bad stuff, but he's done some okay stuff. What ever happened to getting Robert Zemeckis to direct this?? I was sort of hoping for that.

  151. Woah, fucked that one up, let's try again! by sideshow · · Score: 1
    Rodriguez will no doubt have little trouble finding work... but expect it to be via indie studios.


    George Lucas and Quentin Tarantino aren't members of the DGA so Rodriguez won't have any issues.

    Lucas wasn't even a member when he made Star Wars.

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    Hollow words will burn and hollow men will burn.

  152. Re:Related story:John Gulager GOBOTs movie to foll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crappy rip-off wha!? You mean they made ANOTHER live action movie with sentient machines that transform into vehicles!???

    MUST KNOW MORE.

  153. "Such Heroic Nonsense." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't honestly see how on earth it's going to appeal to a large enough demographic to make back the cost of the CGI. It won't use the same characters/visuals as the current kids' cartoon, and the look will be markedly different from the 80s series, not to mention probably rebooting the continuity yet again.

    Nostalgia only goes so far.

  154. Re:Related story:John Gulager GOBOTs movie to foll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is werid...I heard Reports out this movie a long while ago...

    And it was meant to be directed by steven spielberg..Strange how its changed.

    I dont see anything wrong with the idea of the movie. With CGI graphics they could make realistic transformers.

    I dont know if u guys have seen the car advert where the car turns into a transformer type robot and dances....that looks amazing and kinda makes you think how well this film could look

  155. Wow... 300 comments... by WoTG · · Score: 1

    and not a single wise crack about the parent post? I think we've established one fact about /. -- we unanimously love Transformers. =)

    Looking at that list of series' almost makes me feel ashamed that I've only watched G1! Worse still, it makes me feel real old, finding out that the movie is 20 years old!!