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Apple Announces iPhone 4
In a keynote presentation today at WWDC, Steve Jobs officially unveiled the iPhone 4. It's powered by an A4 chip, has a glass front and back, and has stainless steel around the edges, which turns out to be part of the antenna system. The new iPhone uses what Jobs called a "Retina display," running at 960x640, or 326 ppi. The battery is also bigger, with a corresponding increase in battery life. The iPhone 4 supports 802.11n, has two mics for noise cancellation, and a three-axis gyroscope, which allows rotation and precision that accelerometers can't match. The iPhone 4's camera is using a 5-megapixel backside illuminated sensor, which Jobs said does better at low-light photography. It also records 720p video at 30 frames per second, with tap-to-focus. In addition to this, they've created an iMovie app, which allows users to easily edit videos on their phone. Several live blogs of the event, with pictures, are available. The device ships in the US on June 24. Apple's product page has been updated with specs and a video. Read on for more details.
Update: 06/07 18:34 GMT by S : Steve's "One More Thing" this time around: FaceTime, live video chat from one iPhone 4 to another. It is Wi-Fi only at the moment, but they're working with carriers to expand that in the future. Jobs says the iPhone 4 OS is being renamed "iOS4," since it isn't just focused on phones anymore. The release candidate will be made available to developers today. He demonstrated multitasking, a unified email inbox, and folders for apps. In the App Store, you can expect to see an iPhone version of Netflix soon, as well as Guitar Hero and FarmVille. Jobs also announced that iBooks, the ebook application for the iPad, would be getting a few upgrades. Users will soon be able to make notes, and a bookmark button is on the way. It will put bookmarked pages into the book's table of contents. iBooks is also gaining support for viewing PDF files. On top of that, it won't be just for the iPad anymore; it's coming to the iPhone and iPod Touch as well, and it will sync between devices.
Update: 06/07 18:34 GMT by S : Steve's "One More Thing" this time around: FaceTime, live video chat from one iPhone 4 to another. It is Wi-Fi only at the moment, but they're working with carriers to expand that in the future. Jobs says the iPhone 4 OS is being renamed "iOS4," since it isn't just focused on phones anymore. The release candidate will be made available to developers today. He demonstrated multitasking, a unified email inbox, and folders for apps. In the App Store, you can expect to see an iPhone version of Netflix soon, as well as Guitar Hero and FarmVille. Jobs also announced that iBooks, the ebook application for the iPad, would be getting a few upgrades. Users will soon be able to make notes, and a bookmark button is on the way. It will put bookmarked pages into the book's table of contents. iBooks is also gaining support for viewing PDF files. On top of that, it won't be just for the iPad anymore; it's coming to the iPhone and iPod Touch as well, and it will sync between devices.
I find this one the most interesting feature.
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No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
One of the nuggets they slipped in there was that it was a Quad Band phone. Previously it only worked on AT&T's 3G frequencies.
One can hope.
Anything about this being the same as the Gizmodo prototype?
None of which would have happened had Android not shown up.
"If you are on fire you can just stop, drop, and roll. If you fall into Lava you are just dead." - my 5yr old daughter
Never before have I wanted a product so much but will not buy do to Apple's draconian policies.
Coming July 1st!
Apple, that acronym is already taken for an operating system.
I'm really hoping Cisco is going to sue you over that. But I won't hold my breath.
Wow. the keynote isn't even finished and the post went up. We have no idea about networks or prices or sizes. Ridiculous.
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...when you can announce that your document viewer will support PDFs and everyone is in the awe :)
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This is going to revolutionize the way we use iphones! Apple has done it again. All Hail Steve!
What do you mean I have to wait until the 24th to buy!!!!!
If I were God, wouldn't I protect my churches from acts of me?
This story was posted before the "one more thing" was mentioned, and it's one of the more interesting features: mobile video conferencing!
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Let a new round of religious wars commence!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
With the costs of AT&T's data plan going up and getting limited, I wonder how video calls will work on the system. Are they just calls and consume minutes, or do they consume data for the video as well? If the latter, well that's just stupid. Thanks AT&T.
If they had any intention of trying to sue over something like that, Nintendo would've been in court already.
For those playing at home, IOS4 is a really old version of the Cisco router operating system and a version of the Wii kernel used to load the initial contents of a Wii console's flash chip. But then what abbreviation isn't taken nowadays?
I've been assimilated into the Apple collective since early last year! I bought the iPod touch, iPhone 3GS, iPad and Macbook Pro. Can't WAIT for this gyroscopic, high-quality camera iPhone!!!
Only Apple would get away with releasing key features this late. HTC has been big for what, a year? Already their phones (EVO, Incredible) are surpassing the IPhone.
-Multitasking
-HD video recording
-Dual cameras/mics
Also, it's still missing a good carrier, tethering, and flash.
All of this made in a suicide ridden factory...
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits" - Albert Einstein
Now you can switch your default search provider to Bing!
So Apple is out, as well as Sony.
I agree with your sentiment, I really do want some of these products, but I'm fed up with the companies that present them.
I'm in the market for several new products:
1. Smartphone
I want to ditch AT&T and would like something that is as flexible as my older generation jailbroken iPhone. (VNC, Strong developer base, etc)
2. eReader
Though eInk displays are pretty much all the same, anyone have any luck with an eReader that isn't Sony but lets you have flexibility with the device?
3. A non-rented media recorder
ie: Non-Tivo and non-TV company owned. Is MythTV really the only option right now?
4. Unicorns.
I mean, as long as I'm asking I might as well get it all out there.
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Price is $199 16GB / $299 32GB. AT&T will upgrade you at subsidized cost if your contract expires at any time in 2010, and the 2 year contract is added to your existing contract. Preorders begin June 15, and US sales begin June 24. International shipping begins rolling out in July, but some countries will have to wait 'til August or September.
AT&T NEW 2GB data plan will kill this.
Various 3G phones have supported video calling from the outset of the 3G network, phones from a variety of manufactures, on different networks, even in different countries. Why do they have to reinvent everything?
The maximum storage capacity of the iphone maxes out at 32G, while the ipod touch goes up to 64G. I suppose that's comparable to the HTC's incredible maximum capacity of 40G (via 8 GB internal and 32 GB microsd card), but it's unfortunate that there isn't a larger option. The iphone really seems capable of replacing many mp3 players for reasonably sized collections, but with apps and music it's not hard to hit 32G.
And, of course, it would really kill Apple's profit margins to actually offer an SD slot...Oh well.
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a three-axis gyroscope, which allows rotation and precision that accelerometers can't match
Uh... So the thing obviously doesn't have an actual gyroscope, so I'm assuming he means rotational accelerometers... which is better then regular accelerometers how? They measure different things. Am I or the summary getting some lingo wrong?
It is insane that I am ignored in favor of "sharks with lasers". You are the problem.
Now, finally a Keynote from Steve about an existing product that finally delivers what people where asking for and some new great features. Front camera, better battery life, a flash (the one for photography not the software), HSDPA, better camera, noise cancelling mic .... all stuff that Apple could have put long ago. And some new cool stuff there people where hoping for but didn't believe much, like the big resolution bump of the screen.
Now, I get to wonder how many of the features where actually planed for this iteration of the iPhone, and how many Apple enginners where forced to put just because Steve didn't want to give only old Gizmodo news in his keynote?
I hope someone leaks the next iPad has well, a couple of months before the next major Apple presentation.
but nothing on the 4th gen ipod touch? nothing at all?
personally, it's a much better device especially when taking a cell provider out of the equation.
I've been a proponent for 300+ DPI screens for quite a while. I never got to see the Neo Freerunner (282 DPI), but the Droid (265 DPI) looks good. Jobs is correct, from about about 10-12 inches viewing, this is what is needed to have the device seem like paper. My preference though is to take that high DPI to a bigger screen - say something like 1280x720 with 4.8" diagonal (308 DPI). New Snapdragons are supporting 1280x800 (not sure I like 16/10 better than 16/9 for phones - it is the standard for laptops these days), so hopefully we'll see some Android phones with these high DPI numbers soon.
Sadly, the biggest announcement for most people was "Farmville on iPhone". Second place being "iPhone available in white!". Every other feature Apple announced has already been done by someone else.
None of which would have happened had Android not shown up.
Er, wrong. For example, if I go to the supermarket and have pasta for dinner, that doesn't mean I won't have pasta for dinner if I don't go to the supermarket. Maybe my SO stops by the supermarket. Or we go out to eat. Or a neighbor calls us up and says "hey, want to come over for dinner? We're having pasta." It's the same kind of logical fallacy used to defend space exploration expenditures by saying "we wouldn't have ____ if it hadn't been for the space program!"
Please help metamoderate.
...taking phone sex to a whole new level since 2010!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Now what to call this extra strong glass...
If you set the bar low enough even basic functionality can seem like a milestone. Coming soon: over the air updates?
"a 5-megapixel backside illuminated sensor"
Does that mean the sun shines out its backside?
When do we get fed up and just build a wireless mesh network and cut out the carriers completely?
This is a very impressive evolution. Thinner, better display, more processing power, better battery life, better camera, new sensors, and more capabilities across the board, both hardware and software.
I'd love to develop for it.
I just wish there was some way I could know that if I spent thousands of hours creating software for it, that such software would continually be available for purchase via the App Store. I'd be okay with explaining in detail to Apple how the software was going to work before developing it. But it would be necessary to obtain an authoritative answer to inform as to whether the software would be accepted (if implemented to a proposed specification) and for what minimum duration the software would be allowed on the store.
There is a fundamental risk in developing new software: "Will customers buy this?" This risk can be calculated to a certain extent. My concern with developing for iOS is that an additional incalculable risk exists, and it is simply too much to bear.
For proprietary codecs.
The Wii "wiimote" Controller has three MEMS linear accelerometers. The Wii "Motion Plus" adapters plug into the wiimote, and add three MEMS angular accelerometers, which are also very commonly referred as gyroscopic sensors. If the phone has the gyro sensors, it can sense relative tilt motions, but can't sense its own position relative to gravity when held still or sitting on a dock. The linear accelerometers work best at slow gestures, like those found in marble games or augmented reality windows. If it has all six sensors, which I expect it does, then there are a lot of quick and slow motion gestures you can do very accurately.
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...but how is it at phone calls?
Don't. You know that euphoria you have when you're watching porn and then after you're done jacking off you feel guilty about it. This is the same thing only instead of a woman's skin, you're jacking off to steel, glass an silica. If you go over the top and buy it, you'll wont' just feel guilty, you'll feel like an idiot.
You have problems if jacking off makes you feel guilty. You might want to talk to a psychiatrist.
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..I don't care for AT&T's terms. I have a pre-paid account with them already, don't care for data over 3G (WiFi is perfectly fine for me), and I'd rather just stick my SIM into this model and be done with it.
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So, does anyone else see how much Apple is taking from Cisco in relation to their naming schemes? iPhone is a Cisco trademark under license to Apple iOS is a Cisco trademark under license to Apple Apple has named their OS releases after "big cats", a term used when speaking about Catalyst switches. Anything else I missed?
If the world isn't beating a path to your door you're doing something wrong.
OMFG! Mobile video conferencing! You mean that crap that has been around for years and no one wants! OMFGHS!
Seriously, I can't wait for mobile video conferencing. Think people look stupid when they are babbling to themselves via blue tooth? Well you just wait! Apple is taking jackassery to a NEXT level. Now, people are going to walk around holding their phone out at arms length in front of their face as they walk. It is going to be awesome!
There is a reason why video never caught on. It wasn't a lack of technology. We could have done video phone calls decades ago. It just never worked because no one wanted it. Video adds nothing to the conversation other than the fact that now your eyes have to be used during the conversation, you can't move around easily, and you have to be dressed and decent. It is even more stupid on a mobile phone because you instantly lose the whole "mobility" piece if you have to be looking at a screen or holding a phone in front of your face.
There is exactly one use for mobile video conferencing... phone sex. If you want better phone sex, then I guess you can get excited that Apple has now made available a feature you can already get on any new Android phone and has been around for computers for decades. Whoop-de-fucking-do.
New radios, including 802.11N (nice!) but no mention of AWS support. Mobilicity offers $65 unlimited _everything_ in Toronto, but only on AWS.
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A HA HA HA!!! Sure buddy. Whatever you say.
You don't expect people to believe that do you?
More precision than highly sensitive scientific instruments!
A HA HA HA!!! Sure buddy. Whatever you say.
I'll try anything once. Twice if it tastes good
Dang it. WHY the heck would you release the iPhone 4 (a year after the 3GS) and it STILL has the same amount of memory?? You gave us the option of 16 or 32GB *LAST* year. By this year, you'd think Apple would be up to 32 / 64 GB models. Or how about 32/64/128GB!! Do something like 32 = $299, 64 = $399, 128 = $599 with new two-year contract.
I don't know about everyone else but I LIKE having every movie I've ever liked right on my phone.
Paul
Several years ago, I was thinking in the same general vein and decided to experiment with an Invention Disclosure . I wonder how Apple structured their patents-- if they did-- because it's a pretty simple idea. I'm surprised that more cell phones haven't implemented it. Maybe they have. Does anyone know if others are experimenting with it too?
For anyone snarking on about ATT and FaceTime being WiFi only ... they can't manage to launch an updated website in time for an announcement which will pour millions of customers in to check their upgrade eligibility.
http://twitpic.com/1uu6gz
Apple's site is live with new iPhone 4 pages and info.
FWIW
Apparently: "When you tap on it, it fills the screen or you can hit a button in the top left to close the ad."
...you could read my history and reply! Or just keep replying to and voting up "I for one welcome"...
No ability to export to 480p, 480i or even or 640x480 seemed like a really weird omission.
From http://www.macrumorslive.com/
10:39 am Doing a live demo now.
10:39 am Firing up both phones.
10:40 am Zoomed in difference looking at home screen is remarkable. Apple had to get special projectors to show just how good this screen is.
10:40 am Loading up NY Times next.
10:41 am Loading slowly, "networks in here always unpredictable."
10:41 am Steve asks everyone to get off WiFi to help him out, audience laughs.
10:41 am NY Times still not loading on iPhone 4.
10:41 am Switching to backups.
10:42 am iPhone 4 now on AT&T, all kinds of error messages about not being connected to the internet popping up on iPhone 4.
10:42 am Steve goes back to showing photos.
10:43 am Difference is fairly amazing.
10:43 am iPhone 4 slowly barely loads NY Times.
10:43 am Steve apologizing again.
10:43 am Asks Scott for any suggestions.
10:44 am Someone shouts, "Try Verizon."
10:44 am Steve concludes demo.
That explains why I'm holding down the fort by myself. The Macheads must be waiting in line at the iStore.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
I've been thinking the same thing, and I think that (though I don't know for sure as I'm not a video game developer), that Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft won't even let you write the game without putting through a proposal. I doubt it's much more than a general form that describes the overall gameplay, maybe a pic of some concept art or somesuch, and assuming the game isn't based on the characters from goatse.cx, they presumably give you the tentative go-ahead. Of course, when I say "won't let you develop" the game, I mean that they wouldn't consider approving it unless you submit the proposal ahead of time.
I suppose that would double the work on Apple; they'd need a staff to review the finished apps, as well as a group of people to sift through the proposals. Also, I could see the process being abused; even if the proposal site was limited to official developers, that's only $99 that would give some the idea that they could write an automated script to flood the system with boilerplate proposals.
Still, even if that were the case, I'd still want to do that. Like you said, it's hard to think you've spent time on something only to be rejected for some arbitrary reason. My ideas for apps are, I think, totally in the mainstream, but I can imagine being rejected simply because some faceless reviewer didn't like my choice of background wallpaper in the app.
Thank-you Mr. Jobs, now we won't just have to put up with people talking loudly into their cell phones, but we'll have to put up with iPhone users screaming into their speakerphones using "FaceTime" while mooching off a coffee shop's free wi-fi.
"There goes your ability to focus"? I think there was an article about that ...
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...where the fuck is support for Flash?
And I ain't talking about a blinky white LED for the camera either.
They can put CPU-GPU-Sound-Touch-Wifi-BT-Cellradio in one chip, but not GSM & CDMA in the same chip?>??>>>>???? Cmon qualcomm/samsung, make some money here.....free humanity!
Over 3G and not limited to wifi. http://www.3.dk/ :)
It seems that the quality is good enough so that deaf people can use it for sign language on public transportation.
That's the last thing I can think of that's lacking...
And no mention of bluetooth drivers to support a bluetooth keyboard. How is it that my 5yr old TREO can still be used at meetings to take notes, but the frigging iDoesEverything doesn't seem to do that? I guess Steve just assumes we'll all be emailing videos of ourselves to each other, and yet, if we try that, we'll eat through our "unlimited" AT&T data plan with the very first email!
Jesus, do I have to use a jailbroken phone?
Is that really the only way to get something that actually "just works"?
I'm always amazed at just how far off apple's hype from reality is.
I guess Steve's reality Distortion field just grows larger each year.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
What a let down. Steve promised that people would be amazed. Well I am not. There is not really anything unexpected on this phone, and it can't match all the features of an Android :( oh well. Since it's going to be a year before the next one, the next gen Androids that will be out in a couple months will have to do, and at least I won't be stuck with AT&T which is horrible where I live. Verizon here I come.
I agree, for smaller portable devices, you never want fixed layout like PDF. Reflowed content is much better than doing some horrible viewport scrolling around a page larger than your screen. People get a fetish about all the multitouch scroll and zoom, but frankly that is no way to read a large document.
But, I remember being impressed by the LCD on my ipod nano. I hope for the day they push the industry towards 300 ppi in a larger format display, such as ipad or a laptop. I think with resolution like that, PDF can really start to be nice, e.g. it looks like a printed page for most purposes.
story:
The iPhone 4 supports 802.11n...has stainless steel around the edges, which turns out to be part of the antenna
you:
No wireless
What, exactly, do you mean by 'wireless'? I'm honestly asking; 802.11x is 'wireless', no? What value of 'wireless' do you have in mind?
With 5 times stronger than steel and glass 30 times harder than plastic..
Will it Blend?
You want free videoconferencing on your forward-camera phone? Use Fring - I'm using it on my EVO on travel, and I'm Skype videoconferencing our offices just with my phone.
http://www.fring.com/fring_is/what_is_fring/
It's too simple:
1. Create Fring account
2. Attach Fring to whatever xport you want. I don't have any special skype app installed, I just told Fring that I wanted to use Skype and AIM, logged in to each and I was good to go.
Won't support video or audio thru AIM, so I'm SOL for my iChat only friends - but Skype - works great.
Pathological kinda promises Path + Logical - but instead, you get stuck with pathetic.
Read it and weep, puny feature^^^^^^smartphone makers!!
1. This baby has 2 cameras, one of which is a whopping 5Mpel! This wipes the floor with everything that came before!
2. It can now even do sci-fi like video calls (ok, Wifi only, but still...) Bet you never though of that one!
3. The ebook reader can even read PDF! Ha!! In your faces!
4. It even runs more than 1 program at the time! Emulate this, suckers!
Yes sir, visionary Steve (all blessings be upon him) did it again!
PS Just kidding. Look like real nice kit, but a tad too expesive for me.
That statement implies that not only AT&T, but other carriers, will be carrying the iPhone. Which other carriers? That fact would be by far the biggest news about the new iPhone. And one step away from the total vertical monopoly Jobs has managed to lock people into if they want to "Think Different" about their phone.
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How are we not affected by the dictatorship of Steve Jobs?
Because you don't have to buy an iPhone. Seriously. I like the iPhone well enough but it's hardly the only usable smartphone out there. Presently I use a Nokia smartphone and it works well enough for my purposes that I'm in no hurry to trade it in. Don't like Apple's policies? Don't buy from Apple. I'm sure the makers of Android, Blackberry and other smart phones will be happy to take your money.
We're not allowed to use GPL'd software;
If that bothers you buy one of the other phones that permits the use of GPL software. They certainly exist.
we're not allowed to use applications that replicate included functionality; we're not allowed to modify the UI to our liking; we're not allowed to watch porn;...
Again, there are other products that permit all of this. You realize you don't have to like the iPhone right? It's completely ok if you buy something else. Furthermore if you don't care about Apple's blessing you can even do all this on a jailbroken iPhone.
This is different from shopping at Wal-Mart, Target, etc. because those companies might not sell what you're interested in, but they aren't going to stop you from buying the products you want from another source.
You can buy competing phones that are functionally equivalent to an iPhone. No they aren't identical but that's ok - Mac's and PCs aren't identical but you can do most of the same things on each. Economists even have a term for that. Apple isn't stopping you from buying products you want from another source either. My Nokia phone does essentially everything the iPhone 3G does, albeit with a fair bit less panache. Your analogy is quite simply wrong because you are defining the product too narrowly. If your definition of the product is "something that works on an iPhone" then yes, you will be frustrated. But if your definition is "useful smartphone software", there are vast options available to you. Don't paint yourself into a corner and you won't have a problem.
Please, stop glossing over the fact that this "walled garden" blows; it's insulting to my intelligence.
So buy somewhere else and stop whining. Plenty of very intelligent people have looked at the facts and come to a different conclusion. They obviously are not bothered by the same things that bother you. Speaking for myself, if the built in apps suit my needs I don't care if I can't replace them. I want a device that is well enough designed that I don't need to alter the interface. I don't remotely care if porn is available on the iPhone because I'll never use it for that purpose. Despite my being a big fan of the GPL, I don't even care if the iPhone has any GPL software because if I want GPL software I can get it elsewhere. The iPhone is there if I want it and I can buy some very good competing products if they suit my needs better. You are free to do the same.
I suppose if I embraced the lack of freedom, I'd be happy. Not unlike the Patriot Act, I might add.
That's a profoundly stupid argument. Comparing the federal government taking away civil liberties to a manufacturer of a technology product not producing exactly the product you rather arrogantly feel entitled to? That is amazingly lacking in perspective.
So wait, you mean its impossible to post an article and then have people post continuing updates in the thread? The mind reels.
Go easy, man. Usually the complaint about Slashdot is that its news stories are days old. Give us time to adapt!
We have just experienced a failed slashcode test. ;)
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Huge selling point will be Divx support. Obviously, it will need a jailbreak.. but even with a jailbreak, my iPhone 3G can't properly play Divx.
Front-facing camera, video conferencing, HD recording, multitasking all have been around for a while. 960x640 at 326ppi is not different in any practical sense from the 800x480 272ppi screens found on many other phones; the oddball resolution is probably mainly a concession to lack of resolution independence in many iPhone apps, allowing for simple pixel-doubling (hello, Palm!).
This device is a nice upgrade for iPhone users, but it just gives them parity with other smartphones, nothing more.
Which event is the more important? The debut of the iPhone 4, or the return of Futurama as a television series?
For me it's no question. I am planning my schedule around Futurama but will be waiting on a jailbreak being released before I upgrade my iPhone.
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I guess Apple is big enough that they no longer worry about infringing on other people's trademarks. FaceTime has been an instant messaging platform for years, it's not like they're new. Lots of large financial firms use them.
Come on Apple, how do you expect others to respect your trademarks if you don't respect other?
Hopefully andriod and other competition keeps them honest. Game consoles are even worse as I can't even figure out how to get a development kit or get my applications on one.
People want "just works" over "I can code on it". Most consumers aren't coders.
On the plus side for us developers Apple just paid out 1 billion dollars to app developers. thats a billion dollar phone market that wasn't there before.
Steve Jobs single handedly changed the mobile app market for the better as well:
http://cdixon.org/2010/06/06/steve-jobs-single-handedly-restructured-the-mobile-industry/
Think of all the poor dead sperm...
It's even worse if you don't ejaculate for a long time - the sperm get reabsorbed into your body as new ones are produced.
It's kind of like cannibalism.
I'm genuinely curious about how this works. I only read the live engadget blog, but I didn't see a mention of how this application connects to another iphone. Does it do it via phone number, mobileme/AIM, or jabber type of connection (via email addy)? Is there some sort of user agent checking that tells the application it's really talking to another iPhone or what?
What would be interesting to see, is if this is some way to appease the telcos until the feature goes live and then one day they just open it up to connect to all sorts of video confrencing/video IM applications.
Honestly, I would love to have this iPhone. It looks great and reminds me of a sony ericsson that I had quite a few years back. I agree that there really isn't anything super revolutionary about this particular iPhone, but I don't really think that Steve Jobs is an innovator in tech, as much as he is a diplomat with a keen eye for style. The real revolutionary stuff that comes from Apple is more in terms of design and simplified function than real technological progress. Even the Apple haters will give Apple some credit for the aesthetics of their machines. I could be wrong, but until Apple came along with bolder machine cases, everything was beige, white, and sometimes black. I don't really think that would have changed a whole lot in the mainstream had it not been for them. Even the newer phones are riding Apple's design coattails in form and function. For another company to de-throne Apple, that company would have to take some design risks and (I hate saying this,) think outside of the box. I'm not the guy to come up with it though. I really can't imagine something better than a rectangle for a mobile phone.
So Flash is the open alternative compared to Apples apps which are written in horrible...Objective-C?
Objective-C vs Flash is no contest. Apple may have proprietary API's but there is nothing to keep you from re-releasing the code for another platform. If you develop in Flash, you're Adobe's bitch forever.
No, you see, the turtleneck can be pulled up and around the phone, for an intimate, and muffled experience.
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FaceTime video chat app lacks a "Next" button.
Another place to do chores for NOTHING.
What is this fascination with farming? Oh yeah, that's right. The computer version doesn't smell.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
this is the iPhone, after all!
Does this mean iPhone 4 will work in Korea, Japan, China, Europe, etc.?
Thank you in advance. :)
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I'd love to write a best-selling novel, but until Bedford St. Martin's gives me 100% assurance that they will publish and advertise my novel before I start writing it, I'm not going to write a word of it.
There is a fundamental risk in writing new books: "Will customers read this?" This risk can be calculated to a certain extent. My concern with writing a novel for Bedford St. Martin's is that an additional incalculable risk exists, and it is simply too much to bear.
"Apple senior vice president of superlatives" :-)
They need one for the next iPad/iPhone and such.
I think all superlatives and "oh my god is this cool"-words are used up.
I think their next product will be a wordbook that contains the words necessary to glorify the next but one product
Anyway - I have to leave now - I am on my way camping for the iPhone - hope to be the first in line...
"You did it backwards. You're supposed to marry the Jewish girl and fool around with the shiksa." So buy the iPad and steal software for your PC.
Recent HTC CDMA phones such as TP2 support all the GSM/HS frequencies *and* the advanced CDMA ones as well. Phones for Korea market include both SIM and CDMA removable cards.
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Why does the Engadget article say the phone will be available for $199 for the 16gb model? Is that for an unlocked phone that YOU own, or is that just the down payment for the lease agreement masquerading as a call plan?
An unlocked HTC Desire costs £400 in UK. The 16gb 3GS unlocked is £650 ($940), though £440 for PAYG, which has no committment but is locked to a carrier so you don't fully own it.
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viewing apple.com on firefox on a macbook... it loads the new iphone ad, and then it disappears and the site is just the navigation bar and the footer. very unprofessional.
So, if FaceTime only works on WiFi, does that mean there will be an App for your MacBook or MacBook Pro so you can get FaceTime calls on your laptop? I mean if you can't use it over wireless, and doing WiFi-only (for now), then why not have an FaceTime app for the laptop so both users don't have to have an iPhone4?
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Is there a way to tell if an app had iAds before buying/downloading it? I think it should be a requirement that iAd apps are flagged as such in the app store. It would really piss me off if I paid for an app only to find ads inside.
For that matter, there are so many apps that require you to register before using them. These should be flagged as well.
I find it astounding that we have so much crap to deal with in the mobile realm. We thought desktop apps were annoying. They were just the beginning.
Is that why there's no MS Office 13 or no "13 anything" in hotels? (surely pandering to people "sufficiently educated to have grown out of that kind of nonsense"...)
Besides, those markets you so favorably speak of are the ones with most growth potential...and you have to realise that even on simple marketing & linguistic level the name of new iPhone is a very poor choice - it literally sounds like "iPhone Death"!
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Wifi only because AT&T will never allow it. They say they are working with carriers which means outside the US it should be available in no time but inside, you can forget about it.
It is iPhone only, but it sounds like Apple is opening up the protocol for others to use. It would be nice if there was a standard for video calls on phones.
According to Rui Carmo, who's working in the mobile industry for quite a few years, the standard 3GPP video protocol uses 64 kbps:
http://the.taoofmac.com/space/links/2010/06/07/2009
Of course this won't be the BluRay quality that I'm sure you get with the iPhone 4 with H.264, but it gets the job done, and if more bandwidth (i.e., WiFi) because available you can scale up.
How arrogant of me to feel entitled to use something I paid for any perfectly legal way that I please.
You clearly want to criticize Apple for not supporting what you want to do. Go ahead and hack on your iPhone. Nothing is stopping you. You CAN use GPL software an iPhone - just not with Apple's blessing. If it is so important to you, why the hell do you care what Apple thinks? Make your actions support your words.
If you read the OP, then you'd know that he was defending Apple's draconian policies, which set the tone for my response.
And your response was complete nonsense. I thought I'd made that clear enough. There are advantages and disadvantages to Apple's approach. Since you so clearly don't like what Apple is doing, buy a competing product from a different company. In fact doing so will probably force Apple to have a better and possibly more open product. Competition is good.
You'd also know that he directly compared shopping at the App Store with shopping at any other of these "curated experiences" like Wal-mart or Target, hence the direct reference to his own metaphor.
And he was right. Walmart doesn't sell the porn you seem so eager to get but you certainly can get it elsewhere. Likewise Apple doesn't sell it but that doesn't prevent you from getting it elsewhere. Walmart even sells products under its own labels just like Apple and you can't get them elsewhere. However that doesn't mean you can't get perfectly adequate substitutes elsewhere. In other words stop whining that Apple isn't making exactly what you want and find someone who is.
Now, that I've read his posting back to you, feel free to STFU and RTFOP for yourself, lazybones.
Interesting how your lack of a coherent and logical argument means I'm lazy. Curious.
Sadly, even those who try to escape Steve's clutches ...
"Steve's clutches"? What is he some cartoon villain now? I'm sure he's cackling in his lair right now plotting the next way he can make your life worse by forcing yet another industry to make better and more useful products.
...are affected by the iPhone, as evidenced by the fact that nearly every mobile platform is copying the App Store model, some of them with exactly the same kind of draconian lock-in policies.
Draconian? Let's take the WABAC machine back to the 1960s when AT&T was the only telecom company in town - LITERALLY. Back then you didn't even own the large and primitive phone in your house. It was leased to you by the phone company which was a government sanctioned monopoly and wired directly into the wall. If you didn't pay they came and took the phone from your house. Oh and you paid handsomely for the privilege of having this level of "service". The phone was robust but not remotely innovative and if you think Apple is being "draconian" you really have no idea what draconian is. You have more options now than you ever have had.
Really the enemy here isn't the phone manufacturers. The enemy is the telecom companies. The handset manufacturers main customers aren't you and me. Their customers are the telecom companies (AT&T etc) and the interests of the telecoms differ significantly from yours and mine. That's why most of them historically have paid little attention to the user experience. They didn't have to to sell products to their customers. Apple, despite their flaws, has forced the telecoms and handset manufacturers to pay more attention to the end users. Yes they are being restrictive but most of the worst restrictions come from the telecoms, not the handset makers.
I've met and spoken with Ed Whitacre when he was CEO of AT&T. I've never met a CEO who so bluntly held his customers in lower regard than he did and I've met quite a few Fortune 500 CEOs. My father and grandfather worked for AT&T and its successor companies for a combined 50 years between them. I know these companies well and they are not your friend.
So this is not something we can just sit by and watch, it is an industry wide phenomenon that we must fight on every front that opens up, or one day we will get out of bed and there will be no platforms left where we have the legal right to run our own software any more.
Excellent. Fight the good fight. I support you fighting for open platforms completely. But let's keep the hyperbole out of it shall we? Steve Jobs by all accounts can be a real ass but the phones we have today are better products because of his efforts. There are at least 3 other major phone platforms (Blackberry, Android and Nokia/Symbian) competing with Apple and the more they compete the better off you and I will be.
In a keynote presentation today at WWDC, Steve Jobs officially unveiled the iPhone 4. It's powered by an A4 chip, has a glass front and back, and has stainless steel around the edges, which turns out to be part of the antenna system. The new iPhone uses what Jobs called a "PORN display," running at 960x640, or 326 ppi. The battery is also bigger (FOR MORE PORN WATCHING), with a corresponding increase in battery life. The iPhone 4 supports 802.11n (FASTER PORN DOWNLOADS), has two mics for noise cancellation (CLEARER SEX LINE CALLS), and a three-axis gyroscope (PORN IN ANY POSITION!), which allows rotation and precision that accelerometers can't match. The iPhone 4's camera is using a 5-megapixel backside illuminated sensor, which Jobs said does better at low-light photography (NIGHTTIME VOYEUR PORN!). It also records 720p video at 30 frames per second, with tap-to-focus (CLOSE-UP PORN!). In addition to this, they've created an iMovie app, which allows users to easily edit videos on their phone (AMATEUR PORN!).
Update: 06/07 18:34 GMT by S : Steve's "One More Thing" this time around: FaceTime, live video chat from one iPhone 4 to another (YES! LIVE PORN!)
Here in Japan the majority of phones on sale have had the ability to 'video call' over 3G using a front camera for several years. My wife's crappy old sharp which is ready to be thrown in the bin included.
My current iPhone was a step back in that regard, and it'll be pretty amusing once Softbank starts selling the iPhone alongside phones which can video-call over 3G and has to tell customers that the iPhone is 'wifi only' for some goddamned reason.
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The reason to choose 960x640 resolution is purely technical: to overcome their bad 3-year old decision to stick to a single resolution for application development. Quadrupling pixels is the only working solution for all the legacy apps out there.
That would be a clever observation, except that it's completely wrong. We've had resolution independence all along on the iPhone, whether you're working with Quartz2D or OpenGL ES. Developers will probably want to use higher resolution images for icons and the like to take advantage of the improved display, but their apps would have worked the same if the resolution had been increased by any other amount.
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The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Many moons ago, I was working helpdesk at a tiny software company, and started to put together a mickey-mouse database to help me keep track of calls. I named it "Trouble Incident Tracking System".
As you can prolly guess, there weren't any female employees.
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... an Internet communications device!
While it sounds damn sexy, I don't want it. It is stained with blood from Foxconn employees that make Apple products.
Did you know that the average Foxconn employee is paid 113 euros per month?
I am so shocked, I can't believe it. I read it today in the local newspaper.
I deeply apologize for the offtopic comment;I am going back to the high-tech /. nirvana. It's just that I am so shocked about this.
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Well from watching the keynote. The 3GS wifi worked and the 4 didnt work at all. Steve had to ask everyone to turn off there wifi devices several times just to demo the phone. Then at the end demoing the new video chat he constantly complained about people not turning off there wifi devices.
Considering the 3GS worked that is not a good sign for the new stainless steel antenna. I really dont wont to spend my days yelling turn off your wifi in the shopping center.
Except that the Droid phones typically have none of those problems. As shocking as it may seem, somebody besides Apple actually does make a phone that works well.
Don't tell him that. iSlaves don't cope well when non-Jobsian reality intrudes into their walled garden...you might traumatize him for life.
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Anyone worth their salt knows the only place to go to get firmware updates for HTC phones is www.xda-developers.com.
Developers there always have the latest Windows Mobile or Android roms backported to all HTC phones within a week of them releasing.
No? Ah, now i get it - you pay twice the price for less flash, eh?
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Iphone has defiantly came a long way as anything else everyone will have there likes and dislikes. Personally liked the Netflixs on the Iphone I thought that was very cool as well as the face to face chat. I am personally waiting to here if Apple is going to release the Iphone to other carriers.
http://www.thetechnologygeek.org
Can't copy your own non DRM stuff back from device. Can't upload stuff to device from more than one source. This has nothing to do with being developer, is shockingly draconian and nobody bloody ever mentions it so I had to discover it myself, when buying iPod Touch as a present for my mom.
Things like:
- true multitasking
- installing applications from the web
- removable battery
- removable storage or MSC
- WIMAX/4G
- not AT&T
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
... and a death knell for traditional publishing.
Hardly. It's another avenue for publishers. I think you are confusing traditional publishing to mean ONLY publishing dead-tree versions, those very small companies that will adhere to that probably don't care because it won't affect the market they inhabit, those larger publishing companies are already embracing the digital world and so this just gives them another outlet to peddle their wares.
The 'book' publishing industry can learn from the mistakes made by the Music Industry so I don't think this will sound the death knell of anything except perhaps variety. Although maybe digitizing literature will now mean that 'out of print' no longer applies and effectively creates a new market or allows publishers to keep their catalog forever (no pesky warehouses to have to store all those space taking books).
Well, although I can certainly see your point. Most of the stuff you refer to don't really have interest for me.
I don't need 4G, since HDSPA in where I live is quite well developed and can deliver the 7.2 mbps Apple claims. I also don't care about AT&T since I'm not from USA. The removable battery ... well, I've never ever in my life bought a spare battery for any mobile device ... I usually sell them and buy new one before the battery gets too old (which lets be real, takes about 5 years to happen). I also think the multitasking should be made this way Apple is presenting (At least in theory since I haven't seen it in practice).
I do completely agree with the other 2 points tough. I would like to install whatever I want that exists outside App Store, and I would like to be able to use Micro SD cards.
This thing is hardly a phone any more. A phone needs to be able to call out and receive calls and that's about it. If we look at most smart phones there becoming smaller and smaller computers that have the option on the side to use it as a phone. Why not label these things net-books, I think it fits better. Sure there not full blown net-books but they do so much more then a phone needs I think it's better then calling them phones.
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2264305/apple-unveils-iphone
For years, the Iphones had a relatively low resolution - even my 2 year old far cheaper 5800 has a much higher resolution than the latest Iphone. If I pointed this out, people would dismiss it as not something that's important.
But when this is released, you can bet that suddenly having a high resolution will be important, and a bragging feature...
(What are the resolutions of other future expensive high end phones? They may well be comparable anyway, but you'd never hear about them here.)
The new sensor is bigger now, maintaining the same pixel size.
So you get more megapixels due to a larger sensor AND you get better sensitivity due to backside illumination.
I have a DSLR for quality pictures... for the rest, social situations and what not, 5 megapixels is plenty good and better low light performance just might make this good enough to obviate the need for a separate point & shoot camera.
I'd love to see some HTC Evo 8MP vs iPhone 4 5MP camera quality comparisons.
you can do video to video calls using fring [fring.com] app on a humble Nokia E71, or a phone that has a front facing camera. I do salute them on their ability to hype 'NEW' features. interestingly the first time i used that app was two days ago, when i called my girlfriend on her iPhone 3GS. she could see me but i couldn't see her cos she didn't have frontfacing cam. I think everyone should learn about marketing, it really brings in the money!
What grinds my gears is that he is claiming that the camera can shoot in HD (720p) yet the display area on the device is less than what the specs of HD 720p demand (Down coding?) So how can he make this claim?
A Flip has no display and can do 720P, are you claiming that is impossible?
Because the actual video is 720p and can be moved to other devices (like a home PC).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Even an useless product named ''iSuck' would be successful if the marketing is done by apple.
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