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1 Million Firefoxes in 4 Days
Dodger73 writes "The Mozilla guys would have liked to reach 1 Million downloads of the Firefox 1.0 pre-release version within ten days of its release. After four days, the download counter now shows 1,006,060 downloads, surpassing the 10^6 mark more than twice as fast as they desired! Congratulations!"
How about adding a few more downloads?! Get it here.
Most of the people who suddenly downloaded the update were probably already using a prior version of Firefox. I would seriously doubt that this represents anything like 1 million new users.
True 1 million is 1 million, but I for one downloaded it at home, and twice at work. Once for the windows box, and once for the linux box.
Saying "I'll probably get modded down for this", is a magnet for my -1 mod token. I hate to disappoint.
behold the power of wget and a script. Lets you really rack up the ol' hit counter.
Display some adaptability.
sweet. firefox has got to be by far the coolest, most "right on" web browser i've ever used. I tried using IE the other day at work. *cringe* i missed my firefox. it's not surprise that so many people in the downloading public obviously agree.
:) thought i'd share. ;)
way to go firefox team.
ps: speaking of firefoxes.. i got some booty last nite
http://www.digifuzz.net
No prize for the 1 million-th downloader? Such as a cool firefox t-shirt?
I installed Firefox for the first time yesterday. It worked pretty well! I wish I could uninstall Internet Explorer using a program like XP Lite. My concern is that I would not be able to use Windows Update. If Firefox could run Windows Update I would remove IE permanently.
Mission accomplished. Now we can all stop bothering...
I like the new find bar on the bottom of the window... way better than it poping up.
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Well I think they deserve the attention. About a week ago I wined about things I thought Firefox and Thunderbird could not do, but I switched and I must say it's far better than I expected. This is a great browser. I especially like the way almost everything is configurable. I think I'll stick to this for a long time to come.
-- Cheers!
I just hope this leads web-developers to eventually test and validate their pages with something else than IE.
I am always so annoyed with the "Your browser is not supported" mesage...
Reporter: "Mr. Gate$, what do you think of Firefox?"
Gate$: "I think its a myth. There are foxes and then there are foxes. There is no such thing as a Fire fox. And now if you'd excuse me, there is a Long Horn up my ass, I have to go see someone abt it."
Copies are spread through many other sources so the actual amount of downloads is probably much more than the download counter indicates!
Congrats Firefox!
Things that impressed them the most over their first ~5 mins.
1. Tabbed Browsing
2. Ability to set multiple pages as home pages.
3. Sleek look.
4. Small download size.
I guess the popup blocker didn't make as much of an impact because of 3rd party blockers/etc that they had installed and functional.
Go Firefox!
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I suspect that most of the downloads were made by the existing Firefox users who wanted to upgrade to the new version.
Yep, alhough there's been some decent media coverage, so probably more IE guys than normal.
Mozilla, well done but please report on browser stats for something like this!
Firefox 0.8 had only 3 million downloads in 4 months and with only 100 hours more than a million downloads of 1.0PR!
The community must spread this kind of initiative to other projects.
Okay, I probably downloaded it more times than was really necessary, but they were all for different computers. Two for Win98, one for Win95, and one for MacOS X.
Something I don't think has been promoted enough is that Firefox works brilliantly on older computers. I've got an old Win95 machine that I use for when I need to use Microsoft Office (OpenOffice.org is great, but sometimes I need the real MS thing), and was trying to update the IE 4 that it's currently stuck with. Is it possible? I've no idea. I was bounced around various Microsoft download pages, unable to find something that suited Windows 95 - all the system requirements for newer versions of IE given were at least Win98...
Contrast this with Firefox. Visit the Mozilla site, and it guesses which version of Firefox you should need from the User-Agent string of your existing browser. Big link on front page, click on it to download, and minutes later you're in a new browser.
There are many, many older computers around, and before not it was too easy to get stuck with an out-of-date browser. There were alternatives, but Firefox has become the easiest of the lot - it's incredibly simple to upgrade to something secure and modern. It's brilliant!
Tedious Bloggy Stuff - hooray?
That's 1,000,000 potential people annoyed with Slashdot's dodgy rendering in Firefox.
Surely somebody here could fix it?
What vulnerability are you talking about? Last one I remember was the shell:// thing, but that was a long time ago.
1,000,000? Why stop there? I'll bet they'll have another million in a week or two. We're not going to fight IE if we keep setting our sights in the one million range. Let's try to get 10,000,000 new ones in the next year.
Stop learning! Only you can prevent esoterrorism.
And since the good guys cannot always win (unless you live in an hollywood movie), it is time to prepare a nice chroot jail in which to run our beloved browser (and maybe the mail client as well).
Ciao
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FB
what about you guys
The lunatic is in my head
Okay, I admit it. I downloaded 999,942 of those copies. I was stress testing the download mirrors they've passed. They can survive a good slashdotting.
I've already stress tested the websites of Mono, OpenOffice, Debian, Gentoo, Mandrake, Fedora, SuSE, and other open source apps. They all pass too.
You don't honestly think that open source is that popular, do you?
(Okay, sacrasm aside, yes, there are multiple downloads. In your case, you had three downloads for two computers, but I think this is the exception. One download can serve more than one computer and in an office or "sneaker net" setting, that's the most likely outcome)
Hmm, that's funny, cause I'm running two copies of it and it hasn't crashed on me yet. One on my machine and one on my girlfriend's.
/. user that actually has a g/f!
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Is it just me, or does this release seem buggier than 0.9.3? I've have it crash a few times in the last few days, and I've noticed a few popups getting through. 0.9.3 worked flawlessly for me. Anyone else noticing problems? I do like the RSS integration, although the new Find dialog I'm still getting used to. Also, they got rid of my alternate stylesheet icon for sites that only have two choices ("No Style" and the default one), so now I have to go to View -> Page Style to get it). :(
I can't believe noone mentioned Kevin Karpenske who kindly donated the firefox.com domain to the mozilla guys.
Kudos to Kevin for demonstrating a great deal of kindness in supporting our favourite browser..
groklaw, wired and slashdot. The holy trinity of work based time wasting.
The important thing is that people are now realizing that they actually have a choice. That's the first step.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
Unless you mean you're a pirate and got some buried treasure. Which could mean the same thing, since pirates are kinda in the Navy.
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
... they won't REALLY have hit the big time with Firefox until they get sued by SCO!
"He who throws mud, loses ground." - proverb
This is the real kicker that helped me convert a LOT of people over to Firefox - and these are people who honestly couldn't give a stuff about computers, let alone web browsers! The ability to right-click and remove an entire advertising server in one go really put a fire under the rollout. We (in the IT dept) have had calls from loads of people to come and install "that cool web browser thing that stops adverts" since it appeared.
;-)
Whilst installing/configuring Firefox, we also usually find spyware all over the place due to the users trying to use shite-ware browser bars etc to stop adverts (in reality they just end up with more). On one PC, as soon as IE was launched there were popups with porn ads all over the screen - how the guy managed to get any work done I'll never know... maybe he didn't, come to think of it
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
From the author's page:
I once had a signature.
I've been looking at ways to automatically deploy it using MSI files, and switch the default browser to it across the company network.
Even though I limit peoples permissions they still get spyware. When things get bad especially for people who need admin access to their machines for legacy apps, I have to reinstall Windows2k. Not fun.
Wait till we get version 1.2 or something, and people can confidently install it in the corporate.
Then start counting.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
I am kind of puzzled by why Mozilla FireFox is hip.
As a user of Mozilla regularly since Version 1.6 (I'm running 1.7.3 right now), Mozilla has pretty much most of the more useful features in FireFox, especially the tabbed browsing windows and popup blocker. And I do like Mozilla 1.7.3's excellent mail and news reader, too.
I really wonder what their counting method is. I imagine they just look in the web server logs and see how many people downloaded the different binary packages and add them together. But what about people like me who emerge -u firefox? Do we get counted?
1 million is great, and like every poster here has said. The count isn't close to accurate. So let us now aim for 2 million!
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Dean: "Take back your country"
Firefox: "Take back the web"
Now all we need is for an RPM of 1.0pr to appear in the Fedora update repository, which does not seem to have happened as yet.
I thought you was trolling until you mentioned George Bush, now I know you was trolling. ;)
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You, sir, are using Win95 and Win98.
;-)
You are wrong here my friend!
Actually, it's more a case of catching the Lunix bug back in 1997, and never bothering to get a more modern version of Windows than the OEM version which came with my first new PC. The Windows 98 CD, erm, magically 'appeared' one day, after it became increasingly difficult to get Win95 working for games on a newer machine...
Now if you had complained about the lack of a DOS version, that would have been an other story.
Actually, probably the only real legacy platform that's lacking an up-to-date web browser is pre-X versions of Mac OS. Not surprising, really, given the horrors of programming for that platform - but it does mean that older Macs are cut adrift, stuck with an increasingly obsolete Internet Explorer...
Tedious Bloggy Stuff - hooray?
I downloaded it 4 times. 1 for my office comp, 1 for my mac, one for my home pc and one for my girlfriends pc.
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I'm running on a lousy P2 (451 MHz) and 256 RAM at home... working up the cash to build a new compy with an Athalon, but 'till then this is all I've got. Anyway, I've been using Firefox for the past three releases,and I've only had one problem with it: it runs nicely once it's open, but it takes forever to do so. I'm wondering if this is just inherent in Firefox, if it's going to be fixed in later releases or if it's just my lousy compy.
"No one ever wants to eat more than half of what's left of the last doughnut. That's why I call it 'Xeno's Doughnut.'"
Buffer overflow in the graphics renderer.
With almost every release of Mozilla based products, we fix security bugs. We announce those security bugs when we release, that's our standard operating procedure. See http://www.mozilla.org/security/ and http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vul nerabilities.html.
We're very proud of our new Security Bug Bounty program which went into effect well before the Firefox PR shipped. That program helped us identify and fix several more security bugs than might have otherwise been fixed in this release.
The PR was actually release a couple of weeks behind schedule, in part due to our being busy working on fixing a couple of security and privacy issues. We certainly didn't "throw together a preview for the sake of not having to announce it as a fix for major exploits." What actually happened was that we announced the security fixes to the public and to security research firms like Secunia when we shipped PR. They found out about the problem because we shipped and we disclosed the bugs -- our normal process.
You seem to have the misconception that the security issues were about to be disclosed so we rushed a release out. That's just not the case. It was the Mozilla Foundation that made the security disclosures. We do that each time we ship a new release that has security related bug fixes.
--Asa
I'm probably way behind the Slashdot curve here, but I finally switched over to Mozilla a few months ago after IE started to routinely crash, even after updates and a new firewall/anti-virus. I didn't like Mozilla all that much (it felt a bit clunky), but it worked and was reasonably fast so I stuck with it.
I just got the new release of Firefox a few days ago after a friend recommended it, and I think I have just found my new favorite browser. It has the same streamlined look that I had customized on my old IE setup, but without the MS junk and frequent crashes. Its very fast too, and tabs seem like a great feature (I used to just open everything in a new window before Mozilla.)
I'm basically stuck with a crappy operating system because of gaming and office fonts, but its nice to know that I'm not stuck with IE if I want a fast streamlined browser.
The 1 million downloads are only from english-speaking people. The german version for example is not translated yet. I guess that a few 100,000 users alone in germany, austria and swiss would download the final version.
So the counter would be much higher, if other languages were finished.
The only cool new thing is the bottom Find-as-you-type bar.
Yes...but for some reason they removed the plain slashless "Find links as you type" mode. Does anyone have any idea why they removed that? I always found it useful for quickly jumping around forums by just typing a word or two in a post I wanted to see. Instead now I have to push slash for it to start searching, and I end up catching text instead.
1,000,000? Why stop there? I'll bet they'll have another million in a week or two. We're not going to fight IE if we keep setting our sights in the one million range. Let's try to get 10,000,000 new ones in the next year.
:) To make a real dent, we need 10M downloads a month the next year :) We're gonna take back the web. This is only the beginning :)
We're not stopping at all. I think we'll make 2 million by the end of our original 10 day campaign.
And 10M isn't nearly ambitious enough for the next year
Kevin Gerich (who, along with Stephen Horlander created the default theme for Firefox) has done some really nice Firefox replacement widgets at his weblog- check them out and install them, they are very nice.
I downloaded mine from linuxpackages.net (Slackware package prebuilt). So mine along with half the people at the office wasn't counted. So I guess you win some and you loose some in downloads too.
I cant comprehend why they blame windows for firefox displaying the windows icon.[ they say its a bug in windows] - when actually they should have included the intended firefox icon as " main-window" file
Couldnt firefox do it>?
has it been corrected atleast in Ver. 1.0 PR
Why does yahoo do this
10^...
:)
0: 1
1: 10
2: 100
3: 1,000
4: 10,000
5: 100,000
6: 1,000,000
This will seem obvious once you've had your joe.
I downloaded it once and installed it on replicated NFS servers for a Fortune 100 company with over 20,000 UNIX/Linux users. The Fedora, SUSE, and Debian maintainers download it once each for a total of millions of users. It takes a lot of multiple-downloaders like you to equal a few people like me and them, so I wouldn't assume that there's fewer than one million users. There might be quite a few more than a million from those million downloads.
IMHO it's a big mistake to make create such a hype on the web for the prerelease version:
* there are still some nasty bugs in there (like some HTML rendering), so they should have waited for a proper 1.0
* many cool plugins and themes haven't been updated for 1.0PR - which would demonstrate the full power of FF
* I can see many avarage Joes downloading 1.0PR and never updating it - jeust because of the buzz
* maybe they should have started the hype, when FF and Thunderbird were ready for 1.0 - so they could offer both in a bundle?
* I still think many major features are either to hidden or need a plugin: mouse gestures should be in by default and 'search in page' is way toooo geeky
* there should be better mechanisms in the software / first startup to make users download their 'usual' plugins (they already have in IE) like Flash, QuickTime and RealPlayer - so that FF will work properly with their usual sites
I wondered how many people would allow this junk to be installed, unknowing what it really does.
Firefox/Mozilla's success is all great and wonderful, but some guys are already starting to make junks to mess with FF/Mozilla. Beware.
What is such huge deal with tabbed browsing and FireFox? Its not like its the only one browser that has it. Both Avant Browser ( http://www.avantbrowser.com/ ) and MyIE2 ( http://www.myie2.com/html_en/home.htm ) are both free AND offer popup blocks and tabbed browsing, not to mention other stuff.
Wake me when it hits 2^20...
liar!... women dont know howto use a computer properly
I think most (decent) web designers check their work for some compatibility with browsers like mozilla/firefox.
IE is still the browser used by the vast majority of visitors (like it or not), so that is and should be the main target for any professional web designer. Even if you don't like IE yourself, you work for a client and should respect their wishes.
However, the market share of other browsers is growing, and we should all realise that that relatively small percentage of visitors should be able to visit the website as well.
Honesty, I don't go out of my way to get pages identical to the pixel in all browsers, but I ensure that firefox-users have a pretty good user experience too. Getting it pixel-perfect usually is qutie some work (IE's quirks are mostly at fault there), but giving all visitors an acceptable user experience is really not that hard!
Yeah, and MyIE2 supports Super Drag-and-Drop, too! We should go download it and stay with our huge security hole as our main browser! Or not... Firefox isn't just about the Tabbed Browsing. Tabbed Browsing is extremely useful, but what makes Firefox great is that in conjunction with such other features as Find-As-You-Type, the cleaned up interface they offer with 1.0PR (with the Find dialog eliminated and appearing as a strip at the bottom of the window), the extra security (just from not bein IE), the standards compliance, and the plethora of excellent extensions available for it.
One thing - this 'Super Drag and Drop' crap that MyIE2 can do - yeah, Firefox does that, too...
Why not save it for the actual release? And why not call it 2.0 instead... it sounds more stable than 1.0
"We're gonna take back the web. This is only the beginning"
* plays some matrix music *
All indicators show that the human race is selectively breeding itself for stupidity.
for some reason, 1.0 stopped ofefring dropdown lists of user ids for loins - .9 would offer up the names as you typed - so j would yield all ids starting with j, etc. Couldn't find an option to reenable that feature.
Even though it can pretend to be IE6, some sites still don't work. Our corporate T&E site uses Great Plain's web time/expense app, and soem applets refuse to run, making the site unusuable.
Firefox is, however my default browser for 99% of my web browsing.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
I just went to that site(to test it) with 1.0PR and I got a bar at the top of the page that says, "To protect your computer, Firefox prevented the site (xxxtoolbar.com) from installing software on your computer." People can still allow sites to install software, but that requires conscious effort to put the site in the preferences.
I've been keeping my systems pretty current with mozilla -- what (if anything) do I loose on the browser side by going with firefox rather than moz?
Word game?
I remember that bug but it only happened with one particular build for me something like Phoenix .6 or such. I've been using Phoenix/firebird/firefox since day one and I only saw that bug for a very short period. It was annoying but a reload always fixed it.
.10 and have not seen it yet. Like I said, odd that 25% of the time you have that problem and yet I haven't seen it in 6 months. Are you using non-standard fonts, an odd-ball resolution?
I've also read slashdot daily for years so I'm surprised I don't see often as others claim they do. I am now of course using
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
An interesting start would be to count the number of downloads from MSIE user agents...
perception is reality
It does not interact with WU, but it does have an up-to-date install for all XP updates pre-SP2. They are currently working on it for Windows 2000 and 2003 as well. Check it out: www.autopatcher.com
"0101100101? It's just jibberish. *looks in mirror, gasps* 1010011010@!? AHHHHHH!!"
Flamed... BY THE FIREFOX!
"Stop failing the Turing test!" -- Dilbert
liar!... women dont know howto use a computer properly
See, that attitude is what keeps you single.
Depending on what you chose during installation, Mozilla Suite has a Quick Launch icon in the tray (which some insist isn't called the tray). So does Firefox. What problems have you been having?
Or you kould run Firefox's rendering kode inside Konqueror. But would that put you in the KKK?
Who's counting all the people who just emerged Firefox with Gentoo? I'll bet there's a good sized handful of downloads there too.
Direct away from face when opening.
patrons of #gallery and #wordpress on FREEnode got me curious of FireFox. so i decided to give it a try, this was a couple months ago. it was version .8 and lo and behold the download and install took less than 5 minutes.
popup blocking and the Google bar are my favorite features.. along with tabbed-browsing, themes/extensions and its pal, ThunderBird. i've switched for good. imho, IE is good for Windows-tweaks and system updates, nothing more.
all 4 computers in my house now all use FireFox and Thunderbird. upgrades were painless. highly recommended. using .10PR now. highlighted HTTPS address bar? search while you type? why didn't MS think of it first eh? :>
About number 4: I went to isketch.net, I got a top bar saying that I needed a plugin, I clicked, it said it needed showave 10 from Macromedia, I pressed continue, the license never loaded, I pressed Agree, it didn't work, I followed link and downloaded it myself.
:P
I meant plugin in my post. Besides, what does "plugin" mean in your reply to #2?
I'm using Windows XP.
All these stayed after uninstalling and re-installing. But more problems:
1) Find-As-You-Type disabled by default. Why?
2) When deleting all your search string and typing a '/', that / is in the search string. No amount of keyboard work gets the bottom bar off so that / works as before.
Sounds reasonable enough. Thanks for the explanation.
Or in *nix, Edit -> Preferences, Advanced, Accessibility.
Also, you can instantly activate find as you type in its two different modes using their hotkey of:
/ to search all text on the page
' to search links only and
See, that attitude is what keeps you single.
:D Like a lot of men, I'm a "egotistical" fanatical provider, which among other things, leads to an almost singular locus.
;)
No, actually, it depends on what "women" is to you. Every man has their own locus of charactaristics that draws their attention, including nerd/non-nerd. I am of the opinion that women don't know how to use computers properly, but since I can be honest with myself, I know thats because thats how I like it
Unfortunately, there are less and less suitable "women" as society becomes more and more "progressive", so much so today that the process of natural selection is working against guys like us. This is somewhat irritating, since natural selection has pretty much taken a back seat since the advent of modern medicine, and there is no "shallow end of the gene pool" any longer. Consult the biology textbooks you saved from college (haha) and look up "percieved suitability". Anyone can get plasic surgury and look like reproductive gold
Nowadays, all these "women" that come from broken families are just looking for a shrimp (like their dads) that they can easily convince to divorce if things get tough. More of the rest are buying the feminist "self-centered masculinism". Thats all it boils down to.
Oh well, no one said being a real man was easy.
the find bar has to be the active bar in order for the ESC key work (close it), i.e., the cursor inside the find bar has to be blinking.
Saves so much inks when printing directions.
for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".
It's Minimo.
Interesting project, although I think building a lean browser from the ground up is the better approach compared to trying to strip the bloat off Mozilla.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
``Something I don't think has been promoted enough is that Firefox works brilliantly on older computers.''
I honestly think Opera does a much better job there. I find Firefox dog slow to launch and only barely acceptable in use (on a modern computer), whereas Opera just blazes away.
On the other hand, Firefox is overtaking Opera in functionality and configurability, and is much more tolerant of broken web pages.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
It'll be interesting to see the windfall when all those people who downloaded it realize the "pr" means it's not going to work perfectly.
That said, I'm not very happy that I upgraded.
Direct away from face when opening.
10^6:
1,000,000
Number of downloads as of 7:00 UTC:
1,168,288
Would you like a cup of joe?
$ whatis themeaningoflife
themeaningoflife: not found
First off, I'd like to say congrats to the Mozilla Foundation, cause damn- great browser, and a lot of downloads for 100 hours...
What I want to know is how SpreadFirefox.com measures the downloads. Is it just run by the Mozilla Foundation and counts the download link? That's most likely, but it does approximate... I hope this isn't just propoganda.
Lastly, I wonder how many of these downloads are people that download it, install it, and then delete it and switch back to IE? Although that seems ludacris to me (I love Firefox), I'm sure that the IE addiction remains. I hope that this counter represents growing popularity, and not just geeks with 0.9.3 upgrading to 1.0...
- Code Dark
This is not suprising given the fact that the site runs on CivicSpace.
This is the funded continuation of DeanSpace, the Drupal-based grassroots campaigning software created for and used in Howard Dean's campaign.
And it's all open-source too.
Silicon.com is carrying the news that Mozilla/Firefox usage is up to 5.2% of visitors to ecommerce and corporate sites, up from 3.5% in June. Internet Explorer usage over the same timeframe fell from 95.5% to 93.7%. This makes sense as many web developers have been adopting Firefox very quickly (w3schools Gecko usage is at 17.7%) as well as techies and alpha-geeks (Engadget Gecko usage is at 23% and News.com Gecko usage is up to 18%). Usage among non-geeks is expected to grow as more positive mainstream press reports recommend ditching IE for Firefox.
Portable versions of Firefox, GIMP, LibreOffice, etc
Nice one Kevin.
As much as I want to use Firefox on my mac, I've had no luck getting it to import my bookmarks from a file. I click next, and the window closes.
--an unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys--
Works for me.
That did happen to me though when bugwramgler (an extension) was installed for some reason.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040915 Firefox/0.10
I'm really surprised I haven't seen many comments relating to this.
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http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA04-261A
Two days ago, CERT accounced that there were multiple vulnerabilities in Mozilla products. The only unaffected version of Firefox is PR1.0. It is doubtless that this caused a number of downloads of existing installs who would have chosen to not run the Preview Release.
Them hitting their 1mil marker isn't neccesarily a good thing.
About FF supposedly being aimed towards Windows, I'm not going to believe that unless you have a credible source to cite.
However, one thing that irks me about the Moz team is how Firefox's default behavior is quite different in Linux and in Windows. In Windows, if you middle-click on the tab bar at the top, the tab closes. In Linux, the middle click by default wants to open a new page with a link from the clipboard which, more often than not, is not a valid URL and generates an annoying error message. To fix this, you just have to go into the about:config, and change the middleclick.openURL (I think..) to 'false'.
Another thing.. In Windows, if you middle click in a page, you can scroll up and down. In Linux, again, you have to enable this in the about:config.
Since FF is supposed to be a multi-platform browser, I really wish they would make the default behavior consistent between platforms. I don't want to have to twiddle in the config to get it working like it's supposed to.
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Why? what did you find so painful?
What's so important about a pre-release? They would have +1 downloadloads from me if it were the final. I don't understand why they're putting an emphasis on the pre-release. Isn't it only for early adopters and testers?
Troll huh. I'll play.
I've installed 1.0PR on three machines as a clean install. All three of them lose their bookmarks after each firefox restart. Plus they don't show up in the toolbar anymore using drag and drop.
Some extensions won't install complaining about version = 0.9.3 required, even though they are the same xpi files as found on the authors website; which install just fine outside of updates.mozilla.org.
The Live bookmarks has serious issues with XML, mimetypes and certain feeds.
Mark it as you will, but 1.0PR blow goats compared to 0.9.3.
some of them are starting to ask me about this Mozilla thing! You know it's catching fire when the gun-toting hunting types want to know about it.
How'd they hear about it? Some anti-adware programs and stuff recommend installing it.
So 2 points - it's getting out there (obviously), and word of mouth is still the best tool - and with an app as slick as Firefox, you're going to get plenty of that
Berto
IT just goes to show that if there is a quality reliable alternative to internet explorer the people will come.
BUT to be honest with you I would have thought that the download counter would have been even higher than that.
Does anyone have that stat? THAT would be useful!
P.S.
If you (want to) full-text search your bookmarks && use Mozilla or Firefox, check out this search plugin for Mozilla/Firefox. Ah, you need an account there? Just use this demo account for now.
Simpy
Of course I could use the message box errors, but those are just annoying (even more so with tabbed browsing, because you're more likely to be loading pages in the background).
I think the real thing about this isn't the actual number of total downloads. Like the name of the website says, people are encouraged to spread firefox among friends etc. And IMO it works. Many users converting to firefox. And this is it what spreadfirefox.com is all about.
after becoming the spyware remover master, i have switched to moz for good. IE only when needed for compatibility, which is luckily very few times. only thing i need it for is outlook web access on exchange 5.5 server. sigh.
I made my own RPM based on Mr Chung's directions for an earlier version of Firefox, before he posted his 1.0PR RPM on the FedoraNews site. So my one download counted for multiple machines. But now your download wouldn't be counted if you just install his RPM.
It isn't a really significant issue. But since people were questioning multiple downloads, the real issue there is whether uncounted downloads offset multiple downloads. There's no sure way to know. But the two do in effect cancel each other out.
I'd say it isn't anything to worry about. The download counter is probably a very good indicator of Firefox's popularity.
Also, this is /., where a post about Mozilla can mysteriously turn to random politics.
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I'm currently using Moz and have been since it was Netscape. I tried to download the 0.x releases of FF and had nothing but problems with them... I must have done this 4 or 5 times and I always heave a deep sigh, do the uninstall and then go back to Moz.
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My conundrum; Should I download the 1.0 pre-release just because I really, really wanna be part of the party?
(I'm thinking that I need to uninstall Moz to put in FF, but I'm too lazy to check, and I have Moz working perfectly. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Slightly OT: Speaking of "part of the party," I have six gmail invites. Send me email at gmail.com if you want one. I've run out of techie friends.
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I've actually worked to increase the number of users even more, though unfortunately it isn't going to show up here. I work at a technical support help desk on campus, and we often have users that come in with computers infested with spyware. After we remove the spyware, we've been installing Firefox on every machine, and instructing them about how one of the ways to avoid getting it in the first place (among other things) is to use an alternate browser. Unfortunately for this download statistic, we install from a CD for speed purposes (and so they don't need to have internet access when installing). Hopefully more widescale adoption should combat the tide of spyware!
If you haven't tried Firefox DO IT! I have always been an IE user. I tried Mozilla a couple times, but its interface and Netscapeish functionality prompted me to revert immediatly. (I despise Netscape on a personal level) My first download of Firefox was ver 0.something but I was blown away. Now after upgrading to 1.0PR They havge taken care of nearly all my complaints and problems I've found. The only thing left is CSS suppot? Don't know if it is possible or in the works or not but t'would be nice.
P.S. The plugin manager kicks A$$! Microshaft beware!
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Windows Update is important for me on my home machine, but the real issues are at work. Some critical websites, like the Siebel CRM interface, depend on IE scripting. It appears that the Webex conferencing system does too, though perhaps it could be talked into using newer Firefoxes?
Also, sometimes there are plugins that just don't work on Firefox. That's one reason I usually use Real Mozilla instead, because it's got the right Java versions included.
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You can have multiple browsers, at least on Win98.
(On linux I guess you would have to compile from source to change install location ?!)
I have kept old versions of browsers around for fun and testing, and FireFox asks whether to install into a different directory, even only when 0.9.3 is around to be updated.
It will make itself the default browser if you tell it though.
Mozilla settings were imported automatically. I'm not sure that all this applies to all mozillas, I just got Navigator, Communicator, and mozilla 1.3 there besides the newly upgraded FireFox 1.0PR, which also seems to work in slashdot unlike FF 0.9.x. Quite an exhibition.
I find Opera cool, but somehow the UI is so different - or maybe it is the ads that take up space. Maybe if opera had an add side bar instead of a banner, it would not feel so different.
So FireFox is the best, even though I already managed to kill 1.0 with a big table (bug submitted).
I'm still trying to figure out what people mean by 'social skills' here.
I'll probably update Firefox on my home machine, which is running an older Firefox version, but on my work machine, I'm using Mozilla, and I'll probably upgrade to the slightly newer Mozilla. Firefox was too buggy for me, at least up to version 0.8 - it would crash occasionally, usually when I had lots of tabs open, and too many plugins didn't work, and the plugin installers never seemed to work right for Firefox. (Part of this is because my work machine runs Win2K in You're Not The Administrator mode, so it's easier to get the basic Firefox installed but hard to get all the Java installed correctly.)
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Firefox runs like a dog on my 450Mhz G3 OS X box
We're talking Windows here, not Macs. Windows is totally usable on a 450 MHz processor, however, Mac OS X takes up a lot of your processor just looking pretty. I would not recommend OSX on anything less than a 700 G3 (which is what I happen to have), preferrably a 1Ghz G4 or up.
Firefox also isnt really opitmized for OSX so I can imagine it running horribly on your computer, as it does on my G3. It is by far my favorite browser, but I just stick with Safari on the Mac side, since it's a pretty good browser and pretty fast on slower Macs.
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1. Make new release 2. Announce that old version sucks 3. Reach 1000000 downloads faaast 4. ? 5. Profit!
Okay, how about firefox devels make a "web developer release" with JUST the webdeveloper and editcss extensions.
Any relatively decent web developer would see how easy it is to get things done and then would see how ie doesnt quite comply, and so recomend Moz as the browser for their page.
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Obviously in 18 months Firefox will surpass one million downloads in two days, and with half the bandwidth...
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Why did you stop using Opera?
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it's not about the downloads, it's about the usage
that will get lazy IE-centered webdevelopers off their b*tts
our goal should be that every webpage should work with Firefox!!!
I downloaded the prerelease version at work and was amazed at the download speed. Basically I clicked the button and it was there.
Then I realised that I must have been getting the file from some local cache.
I don't think this counts against the download counter, so add a couple of dozen (at least) for every big corporate.
I know quite a large group of Linux users do use Debian in some form or another, as well as utilize the dselect/apt-get tools to manage their package repositories.
Do these numbers even bother to take this into account?
I am ready to use it, except I am waiting a tad bit longer just for Firefox to iron out a few more bugs for the 1.0 final (supposedly in October?).
If there are 1,000,000 people downloading the pre-release, then there has got to be 2,000,000 people like me just waiting for the final version.
is the ability to decide which extensions would start with firefox and which would be fired up as and when needed.
I think that may shave off a few seconds of the loading time.
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I'm wondering how many IT pro's have downloaded this new firefox and installed it by deployable logins? I am aware of a company that downloaded it one time and installed it on twelve computers via domain login script.
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Although it may look like alot of people are switching from ie, the offical faq in the forums suggest a complete uninstall, then using ie to get Firefox. Im not suggesting ALL of the ie dls can be explained this way, but id say its a good percent.
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Well, as buggy as IE is, it sure SEEMS like a prerelease version.....
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Well this is why its a pre-release. Its beta.
.9.3 and will do so until its ready. I look at software as a tool and not a beta regresion test.
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one thing that bugs me is how slow getting a group of extensions pulled down. Somebody could/should create a link farm for the raw xpi files (so you could r-c and pull a bunch of extensions at once)
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I understand there has been a bug in the clipboard copy functionality for quite some time, where Ctrl-C or copying to clipboard just does not work.
Well, it's still there.
Honestly this bug renders the browser completely useless if you're doing anything that involves copy and paste. Short of manually swapping between tabs and typing huge tracts of text, the only alternative is to use another browser ie IE.
Anyone know anything about this bug - when is it going to be fixed?
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Great news - for the next steps, I would advise in the strongest terms that you NOT say you'll reach 100 million downloads in a year and plan to get there via a Pepsi bottlecap promotion!!
Just a thought.
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i want to install firefox in every machine, but it is imposible, i want that every friend of mine install it, but it is dificult, some of them dont speak english (im from argentina) and some of them cant deal with the extensions. so if i had a MSI with firefox in spanish, and with some extensions. ill be able to spread firefox far more than now.
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...I've seen some very misleading information. Stuff like "Firefox 1.0 released" only to find somewhere down in the body text that this is a PR release, often with a semi-understandable explaination of what a PR release is. I suspect a great many slightly less geeky people believe that this IS 1.0 final.
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Beware of the Tabbrowser extensions. Featurewise *everything* you'll ever need for tabbed browsing. But caused major performance and stability problems, not only for me
Bye egghat.
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Quite a bit offtopic but maybe someone has had similar problems.
Does anyone know how to make firefox properly display inline video (embedded into HTML pages)?
I tried the mplayer plugin but it doesn't work for me. Videos just pop up in a new window, play for a few secs, then close and won't come back.
Great! It works fine for me. I was searching for this extension for a long time - I guess this wasnt there on the default Mozilla site.. Thanks.
Which was my original point. It's a shame 10.PR is getting more attention than 0.9.3 because 1.0PR is not very good compared to 0.9.3 stability wise.
Sounds good to me! I'll keep converting 'em out here.
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Does the source code count if I download it and build my own binary?
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
...broke 90% of my Extensions (ah yes, plus ca change...), and still doesn't have a way to add file types to the Download Manager (whoa, is it 1993 already?). Luckily I had a second copy of 0.9.3 on another drive...
Having to click "Save to Disk" "OK" every time a .dmg or any of countless other filetypes come in, is silly. And "Remember this Setting" button is right up there with the Apple Finder's "Always Open in Column View"... great idea, even better if it worked (at all).
still my browser of choice, until OmniWeb gets rollin' some more
http://www.spreadfirefox.com wants to recruit 10,000 new members for their campagne!