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Donald Trump Wins US Presidency (nytimes.com)
It's official: Donald Trump has won the 2016 presidential election. Slashdot reader Xenographic writes: Google's map of results is now calling the race for Donald J. Trump. This is something that Nate Silver jokingly predicted back on May 10th when he wrote "Reminder: Cubs will win the World Series and, in exchange, President Trump will be elected 8 days later." The House and Senate are also under Republican control. In other news, the Canadian immigration site has crashed under heavy load.This is how The New York Times, America's top newspaper reported the news:The surprise outcome, defying late polls that showed Hillary Clinton with a modest but persistent edge, threatened convulsions throughout the country and the world, where skeptics had watched with alarm as Mr. Trump's unvarnished overtures to disillusioned voters took hold. The triumph for Mr. Trump, 70, a real estate developer-turned-reality television star with no government experience, was a powerful rejection of the establishment forces that had assembled against him, from the world of business to government, and the consensus they had forged on everything from trade to immigration. The results amounted to a repudiation, not only of Mrs. Clinton, but of President Obama, whose legacy is suddenly imperiled. And it was a decisive demonstration of power by a largely overlooked coalition of mostly blue-collar white and working-class voters who felt that the promise of the United States had slipped their grasp amid decades of globalization and multiculturalism. Update: The New Yorker's Editor-in-Chief David Remnick, described the Election outcome as "an American tragedy." The New York Times columnist Paul Krugman said, "Trump will bring global recession." BBC has an article on how the media worldwide has described Trump's victory. The Guardian captured the thoughts of world leaders on the matter. Hillary Clinton addressed the nation this morning and told her supporters that they all should keep an open mind and give Trump the chance to lead.
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Didn't see this coming but it looks like the republicans will control all branches. It will be interesting to see what they do with that power in the upcoming years.
Hay we survived bush Jr we can survive trump.
An old Chinese saying is may you live in interesting times....wait that was a curse wasn't it :/
Interesting times.
Dear DNC and superdelegates: Thanks so much for giving us the most unpopular Democratic nominee in living memory. What should have been a landslide win has become a complete fucking nightmare. Good job.
Little did he know, it was the end of all messages for all time.
We're sorry.
Sincerely,
a shitload of americans. (just not a big enough shitload, apparently).
Please consolidate all the comments about how sexist/racist/xenophobic America is because they didn't coronate Hillary under this comment for organizational purposes. Please provide reasons for why a bunch of people who were "good" when they voted for Obama deserve to be shipped off to your concentration camps today for failing to do as they were told.
Also, you can post your real estate listings here since you ARE actually going to man up (ooh wait.. too cisgendered a term there) and move to Canada right?
Interesting microcosm of why Hillary ACTUALLY lost that can't be boiled down to a prejudiced throw-away "ism" hurled at groups of people you don't like: Tonight she flat out refused to go out and face her own supporters at her lavish "victory" party. Not even to thank them for their hard work. No class whatsoever where it actually counts.
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
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Don't let the door hit your rears on the way out you babies!
Been done, watch it if you like:
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At the end of the day Trump is too incompetent to start a major war. Or do anything else too drastic. He is vain and intellectually lazy, so the lobbyists will keep him under control.
But the big thing he WILL do is roll back Obamacare. The thing that poor whites rely on if they get ill. He'll cut taxes to the rich and services to the poor like nobody else.
He'll make noises about Mexicans but do nothing. He will make noises about China but is unlikely to do anything.
But if you rely on government services too bad, so sad.
In a democracy the people get the government that they deserve.
the dollar will plummet, that means cheaper stuff from the US. Oh, wait, the good stuff is all made in China. Damn.
I went to bed at 11:00 PM thinking too many states were too close to call until the morning. It's 1:52 AM right now. I just got woken up by my two-year-old yelling. He couldn't tell me what was wrong. I gave him some water and changed him, even though he wasn't wet, and I put him back to bed.
I thought, what the hell, I gotta know. I power on the computer, log in, and this is what I see.
Methinks young padawan senses a disturbance in the force.
I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords.
People said they were terrified for Obama's safety 8 years ago... Most of the people with guns like this guy a lot better. :)
As long as he doesn't accidentally smudge the last two digits written on his hand.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Incidentally, for those looking for someone to blame here, look no further than the DNC:
Read the PDF attachment on this email for the source.
Four years we get to listen to his pedantic bullshit.
And in four years, we have to sit through another goddamn election season where he's a candidate.
I fully expect him to appoint every conservative wingnut he can find to positions of power.
We're going to try trickle down economics one more fucking time.
We're going to boot 20 million people off of their health care, and institute health savings plans instead (great if you live well enough above your means that you can afford to set money aside).
We're going to ignore the Paris Climate Accords. The EPA will be left in tatters.
We're going to waste half a trillion dollars building a fucking wall, to address an immigration problem that is nowhere near our top concern.
We're going to defund the Department of Education.
And on and on and fucking on.
And I fully expect the Trump administration to be rife with scandals. There's a reason he didn't want to get into financial disclosures. He will use the office to further his investments.
President Trump, the greatest shitshow on earth!
Trump is less likely to start WWIII than Hillary Clinton was. Don't forget that in the debates she practically declared war on Russia.
Trump is a survivable event. Hillary would have spelled the end of the United States.
Trump may not be my first choice, but make no mistake, the right choice won tonight.
For anyone who doubts the parent post, read the PDF attached to this email and look at the list of names of "Pied Piper Candidates" the DNC hoped to face.
Maybe they should dump the superdelegates and let the people choose their own candidate next time?
Britain slips down to number 2 in the stupidest country rankings.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
No. we have a bountiful supply of fools.
Since term limits began we've been in a cycle of 8 years one party, 8 years the other. Bush (the first) was the only exception, because Reagan was ridiculously popular and Dukakis wasn't.
More accurately, Republicans have a base of ~40% that turns out no matter what; Democrats don't, which is why all the true landslides of the past 50 years have gone to Republicans. The party cycle is pretty much all because of Democrats; after two elections they become complacent and idealistic and stop turning out, then it takes a couple terms of Republicans to build up the fire in their belly again. It would be funny, except for how many people suffer in the meantime.
And if you were one of those idealists who would only vote for Bernie, remember that idealism is an extremism as dangerous as any other, because it ends in letting the world burn because you won't settle for second best.
Anyway, all hail Grand Nagus Trump and see you in 2018.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Blah blah blah. Clinton -- with all the same information that your favorite pal George W. Bush had -- voted for the Iraq war. The fact that she later decided that war was bad when it was politically convenient to do so and was never questioned once by the toadies in the press about here hypocrisy doesn't change the facts.
As secretary of state she personally instigated the disastrous destabilization of multiple secular governments in the middle east to appease the jihadi Muslim Brotherhood.
There was one proven war monger on that stage, and it wasn't Turmp.
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You assume they've been maintained enough, and properly at that, in order to maintain aim/trajectory/flight capability/distance capability.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Well, at least we (the UK) are no longer the biggest clowns in the west.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
The demographics keep moving towards the Democrats. There have never been more offended Latinos, women and immigrants from the Middle East. Heck, even the Mormons were having misgivings.
I don't know where the extra Republican votes came from.
This is Slashdot -- anyone here think that hacking voting machines is a strange thought with Russia's help?
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"Coward" is an Islamic surname? Who knew?!
But seriously. If I enter any other non-Western country with a Christian surname and am treated as a second class citizen, it is expected. I am the guest, I am expected to abide by the rules, the customs, the laws, the norms. I cannot own land in Japan, If I am a woman I cannot vote in Saudi Arabia. Yet everyone expects that the West change their ways to accommodate them when they enter. And when there is pushback against this expectation, the response is accusations of racism and xenophobia.
If the West is so great that everyone wants to enter, why does everyone want to change it so radically?
1) Markets are tanking.
2) News about how to immigrate to Canada floated from #5 to #3 on the Google "Top News" list.
At this rate, I'm glad I woke up. I'll go get my passport, pack my bags, get in line early to withdraw all my savings from the bank, and drive north.
Every country has some weird traditions. USA's is electing a clown as president.
I am sure it will not be as bad as most people think. After all president is constrained by the budget set by congress. Neither can a president declare war without their approval. I am sure that if he really starts to act out then impeachment is on the table.
Still, you have to wonder about the voter disillusionment to get such a result.
Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos.
well... if you are a US citizen, then you are a citizen with no second class caveat.
Since you would be visiting, you aren't a citizen at all, so no caveat needed.
There is nothing inherently wrong about being picky about who you let immigrate (or visit).
The West is "so great" primarily because we DON'T do those things. The minute we start is the minute we AREN'T "so great". How does that concept escape you?
I don't blame Trump for this. I don't even blame the people really. I blame the DNC.
We've survived 8 years of Bush. We can do this. At the very least it should be an entertaining 4 years or however long it takes him to get impeached for war crimes.
Pick a swing state and colonize it if you actually care about your country.
If you look at the state maps, wherever population is densest, people tend to vote left. The reason is simple: people who live in close quarters have learned that it's important to get along.
All those folks out in the sparse spaces haven't figured out that rugged individualism is basically childishness. We look out from the cities and see drooling yokels - they look at us and see preening fops making useless rules.
World's getting smaller though. Eventually the children will have to grow up. We have to take care of each other and share limited resources.
The only small consolation is that Clinton is forecast to win a scant victory in the popular vote once all ballots are counted: http://www.nytimes.com/electio... as of slightly after midnight election day she is forecast about 1.3% lead. Unfortunately it's not the popular vote that matters.
It's been nice knowing you, USA.
You were doing great upto this point, but decided to stop.
Hope to see you back in one piece in four years.
And I do mean that literally.
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the GOP will probably lose the Senate next mid-term. Probably. For the record, Blacks and Latinos didn't come out for Hilary. The election was close and if they had she probably would have won. To be fair thanks to the Supreme Court striking down the 1965 Voting Rights Act they probably didn't get the chance. Blacks are 6 times more likely to wait an hour to vote then whites.
But all that said, Hilary had nothing substantive to offer voters. The only concrete thing we got out of her was the Buffet rule. That left emotion, and she leaves everyone cold. She spent too much time working up to this and not enough time living. People don't feel anything from her, and our elections are decided on feelings.
Oh, and Comey? Nice Job. Very nice job.
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Lots of it. The 1965 Voter Rights Act got shut down. Polling places in Black and Latino neighborhoods were closed left and right. Folks with guns hung around polling offices scaring voters. I hate to Godwin this thread but a buddy of mine likened it to what the Nazis did. He wasn't entirely wrong.
If you know a Black or Latino of voting age then make a pledge. Make sure they vote in the mid-term. It's the only chance to balance this mess out. In the meantime I've got a Type-1 Diabetic friend who's gonna get cut off from insurance when the ACA gets repealed. He was hitting the ER for insulin (often just barely making it) until the ACA funded Medicare expansion got him back on the rolls. Maybe I'll try a go fund me in 12 months when he's kicked off again.
I hope it's not for his casket...
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the 1% are fine with Trump. Lots of tax cuts, regulation cuts, Union busting, etc. That leaves the loons, and the left just aren't up to assassinations. We've shied away from violence this entire campaign. Trumps fine. The rest of us? Not so much.
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Oh thank goodness you brought up guns. You know the biggest obstacle to gun ownership in the past 8 years? Low supply caused by gun runs by fucking gun psychos worried about conspiracy theories.
If only Bernie got the nod instead of Hillary. Probably would have been a much different show.
Probably one of the worst elections in history but that just shows you where America stands. Quite honestly I would have rather had Trump over Hillary. Just too much scandal surrounding her at higher levels than Donald Trump.
they're large, have a lot of money, and if they stay home we lose the election anyway. That's why we let her run. We also underestimated how unpersonable she would be and how effective the character assassination campaign against her was.
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From the Washington Post:
I’m no fan of Peter Thiel, the billionaire who put Gawker out of business by bankrolling a lawsuit by Hulk Hogan, the professional wrestler. In fact, I find him appalling.
But when he spoke recently at the National Press Club, he said something that struck me as quite perceptive about Donald Trump.
“The media is always taking Trump literally. It never takes him seriously, but it always takes him literally,” Thiel said. Journalists wanted to know exactly how he would deport that many undocumented immigrants, or exactly how Trump would rid the world of ISIS. We wanted details.
But a lot of voters think the opposite way: They take Trump seriously but not literally.
They realize, Thiel said, that Trump doesn’t really plan to build a wall. “What they hear is, ‘We’re going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy.’ ”
Trump, quite apparently, captured the anger that Americans were feeling about issues such as trade and immigration.
Also, as someone who is not a Trump supporter, I thought at least that his acceptance speech was quite good.
LOL, the Brexit result practically foreshadowed the US election. The media reliance on increasingly inaccurate polls meant they couldn't see it coming. You're a fool if you couldn't see the exact same Silent Majority just waiting in the wings in America after Brexit. Sure, the Limeys may talk funny and spell words the wrong way, but really they're all still Americans at heart.
Do you know there's no income tax in North Korea. Lots of freedoms guaranteed in the constitution, 90% of everybody greatly impoverished with few functioning state services (except for education, which they have but people don't get in your plan). A stable military dictatorship, which may be the best I wish for your country after you run it into the ground.
at the very least Hilary & Co are out the door. Done. Finished.
I'm hoping the damage Trump does can be contained by the MID Term and this shifts the country left. Hopefully the Blacks and Latinos that stayed home and gave this election to Trump realize their mistake in the mid-terms. That said, Voter Suppression played a vital role in getting Trump elected (poll watching, closing polls in Black & Latino districts, etc, etc) and it's not going to get any easier from here...
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The USAian media said that the top election statisticians have said that it was virtually impossible for Donald Trump to win the election. They also say that it is a virtual impossibility that white men do not cause man made global climate change. Now they are saying that Donald Trump did in fact win the election. Here we have two assertions that contradict each other. At least to my biased white mind they seem to contradict each other (i.e. That Hillary Clinton is a virtual shoe in to win the election, and that Donald trump has won the election) To me that that means that either my inherent racist white bias interferes with my ability to perceive reality and I just am too stupid / racist to understand why the media is right. The other possibility would be that the media is full of shit!
I know that the media is not full of shit because they tell me they are not full of shit every time i watch TV. So it must be that global warming is real. Hillary Clinton did win the election, and I am racist because I am white.
for ignoring the Middle Class. They focused on the very rich and the very poor. Those two groups got taken care of. The rich got tax breaks, cheap labor and cheap money (super low interest rates, etc) and the poor got the Medicare expansion, extended unemployment and a bit of stimulus. The middle class got fuck all.
Joe Biden talked about this (I wish he'd run, he'da crushed Trump). Sure, Trump isn't going to do anything either, but he said he would, which is more than I heard from Hilary...
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Hardly our fault if the rest of the world wants to throw a hissy fit because the non-globalist candidate won.
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It is probable I was not paying attention back then in early 2000s, but when republicans had control of congress and whitehouse they did not start undoing all the "bad laws" enacted by the democrats.
At any rate, I hope trump is a better leader than campaigner.
Besides once trump is sworn in, the men in black will tell him the world is really run by aliens and trump will backpedal, just like all others who have served in that office.
It's over already? Without any challenges? I thought someone said the election was rigged. Oh wait. Maybe that's only if it doesn't go your way. Whew. Dodged a bullet there.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Trump proved that it is more difficult to get a golfing course in Scotland than it is to be elected to be the President of The United States. The latter being a consolation for the former.
Except the part where Pence is actually a pretty solid candidate. While Trump was floundering with his non-stop train of blunders, Pence was actually stating coherent talking points.
But even so, grassy knoll approach is flat out stupid. Trump is a businessman first and foremost. All stances are negotiable. He's probably easier to sway with a briefcase full of cash than anyone else. Clinton already collected her payola so any newcomer trying to buy policy would have had to outdo the pre-existing arrangements she has. To put it bluntly: you can pay Trump $20 to hold up a Dr. Pepper can during a speech. You'd have to pay Hillary first the $20 she is already getting from Coke, and then another $20 for her to hold up your beverage of choice.
LOL, the Brexit result practically foreshadowed the US election.
Indeed yes. The candidates prepared to tell the nastiest, most egregious lies won in both cases.
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The best summary I've seen was in a tweet (sorry, don't have the link):
BRITAIN: Brexit is the stupidest, most self-destructive act a country could undertake.
USA: Hold my beer.
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1. Obama had VASTLY more power - he had super majorities in both the House and Senate, which let him do ANYTHING he wanted in his 1st almost 2 years in office without a single Republican vote in congress and with the Republicans not even able to mount a fillibuster in the Senate (incidentally, while the Dems used that power for that nearly trillion dollar stimulus bill and the auto take-over and bank bailouts and Obamacare, they did NOT use it for amnesty or or fixing the inner cities or anything else that would then deprive them of future election arguments to their ethic voter groups). Trump has the congress only marginally - many in Republicans congress are RINOS and "never trumpers" - there WERE no "never Obamas" among the Democrats in congress.
2. I repeatedly warned liberals on this site that all that cheering they did as Obama did tons of crap "with a pen and his phone" was setting precedents that any future Republican president could use. No Trump has license to run just as rough-shod over every stinking liberal thing he chooses using those very same precedents they and Obama established. THAT was why "ends justify the means" ethics was always a bad idea. If Trump uses that power now to trash every damn thing you like, you have nobody but yourselves to blame. As a right-winger, I personally hope that conservatives in his circles will urge Trump to show more restraint in this regard and not be the dirtbag Obama has been. I do not want my president doing that crap whether he's a Republican OR a Democrat.
3. This may be the one chance in our lifetimes to see a non-government person go into Washington and upend all the corruption and bureaucracy. A business guy will be able to bring a real-world perspective to things government has been doing and look at lots of stuff and ask the unthinkable questions: "should government be doing THAT?" and "Is that the smartest and most-efficient way to do THAT?" and "Are you an actual expert, or were were you just the one who contributed the most money to some politician?"
I am very cautiously optimistic that DC and the media will be so far in shock that the inertia of big corrupt government, and NYC media, and talking-head experts and campaign consultants will all have to do a little introspection. The elites need to get out of their bubbles and visit and get to know the rest of America.
Big loser of the night: Goldman Sachs (followed by the rest of the Wall Street bankers and globalist multinational corps).
60 days buddy, president can declare war and send troops out for 60 without an act of congress, after that congress can vote to bring the troops home
Not knowing him personally and only seeing him never being able to complete a fucking sentence I'd be even more gravely concerned that the hard work hasn't even started yet and all of the fun stuff like making up bullshit and retracting it for no good reason is over. Dump is the next president of the united states. NOW WHAT?!?!?!
Hey, at least we will now have the hottest first lady in history.
Pics, or it's not true.
(I know, I know. They exist. I'm just too bored to find them.)
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
1) Both the Bush and Clinton crime families are finished. They will never hold any power in either side of the Ruling Party again.
2) Trump is ego driven. He has no actual policy agenda.
3) Trey Gowdy might actually have enough integrity to prosecute criminals from both sides of the Ruling Party. Obama gave Bush's minions a walk as a professional courtesy.
4) This defeat is an opportunity for the Democrats to clean house, big time. (Not that I really expect them to do so, but still.)
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
And she lost, why are you dwelling on it.
Note to the young: Sperging about your lost candidate on the night of an election doesn't constitute "dwelling"... You need to wait a few days before using that word.
I'm not dwelling. GP is rehashing all the same old bullshit on Hillary. I just want someone to tell me what the fuck to expect because the next president of the united states sure as fuck hasn't.
Lots of D voters stayed home. Because people don't like Hillary.
Regardless of how you voted for (Bernie Sanders for me because he seemed like a real person and not just a cosmetic masterpiece), Trumps speech felt genuine and was cool to give others credit instead of just saying "ME ME ME". Asshole or not, he seemed like an actual person and not just a robot with a perfectly strategic agenda. My stomach seriously started to cramp up when I thought Hillary was going to win and I'd have to hear her speak for the next 4 years trying to convince the world she cares. Does she even like movies? listen to music or have a soul? Seems like shes been in politics her whole life and it robbed her of a personality and character which are very important to me over a 'platform' The fact that he has no experience, no one thought he would win and still overcame to win has to go for something. Only time will tell but lets at least give him a year before calling for his impeachment because if he overcame all those odds, maybe he is more "qualified" than we give him credit for.
The US and UK will be punished for this. They have to be, to discourage others from doing the same. The UK will get a shitty deal with the EU post-Brexit, and countries will refuse to do sign treaties that favour America. If they do, it will just encourage more of this behaviour.
The rise of bloody minded stupidity, contrarianism and bigotry is really disturbing. I hoped it was only the UK, but it looks like the US fell victim too.
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That serves you right for having been making fun of us on Berlusconi all those years!
Huh, I did not know that the US presidential elections were held in the middle of May. Wait, no, that's you citing an article from 6 months ago while claiming it was in the last two weeks.
DOW Futures were down almost a 1000 points when it looked like Trump might actually win because of all the idiots voting for 3rd parties. Expect a significant stock market crash tommorow, by the time he takes office the ecomomy is going to be in recession unless he repudiates his threats to reneg on the existing free trade agreements and other economic suicide policies he's promissed to implement to placate the ignorant. He's scared the business community so badly that most companies will halt investments, within a month layoffs will start because everyone is holding back waiting to see how badly he fucks up trade and the economy. Negative views like this become self fullfiling in very short order because emotion drives the market.
The great recession that Obama narrowly stopped turning into a full depression is going to cycle back around. And just like Bush's first term when R's controlled both houses they will cut taxes, increase spending and sink the countries future. But maybe we'll get lucky and he'll start a nuclear war because someone insulted him.
If you promised to move to Canada if Trump won, please post contact information and an army of volunteers will reach out to you shortly to schedule a date to help you pack.
If you promised to move to Mexico to protest Trump's plan to halt illegal immigration, please... Just kidding, we know none of you are willing to live in Mexico.
See that "Preview" button?
Google has already seemingly removed the election results link from their logo.. I don't believe that would've happened had it gone the other way around.
75 years ago over 400,000 of our troops fought a war against nations lead by people like Trump. Every person who voted for him just spit on their graves.
Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. See also: NAZI's
Every country has some weird traditions. USA's is electing a clown as president
Small thanks for providing a small chuckle. Really I'd like to know what to expect from a dump presidency which no one seems to be able to provide, but I'll take a chuckle.
As of today, because of my Islamic surname, I'm a second class citizen in the eyes of America. If I want to visit, I'll have to undergo "extreme vetting", whatever that means.
The parallels with the rise of Nazism are quite disturbing.
Why would you want to visit though, especially now?
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I hear of all the people wanting to emigrate to Canada, but what is wrong with Mexico?
Free, as in your money being freed from the confines of your account.
To find out Canadian immigration website runs IIS.
Here's hoping checks and balances will save us... and I can't even be too sure of that because of the republican influence in the house and senate.
Enjoy the decline of American power folks.
I had a dream, bright and carefree, but now there's doubt and gravity
Heil trump... the rise of fascism.
FTFY
As secretary of state she personally instigated the disastrous destabilization of multiple secular governments in the middle east to appease the jihadi Muslim Brotherhood.
Why I am shocked! Until now we we have been labouring under the misapprehension that the Arab Spring and the war in Syria had been started by Arab people who had had a bellyful of being ruled by brutal dictators but clearly we were wrong. It now appears that it can all be blamed on Hillary Clinton going around the Middle East starting wars and revolutions at a time when most people in the region were apparently sitting in front of their TV set admiring their dictators in a state of utter bliss born of the the wisdom with which they were being governed. So please explain to us, how exactly did Hillary Clinton personally ignite the the Arab spring and personally start the war in Syria? Any failure to do so will be interpreted as you either begin a troll or having no fucking clue what you are talking about.
Vote for the damn issues, AND, whatever or whoever serves their ACTUALLY HAPPENING, however incrementally.
This means NO THIRD PARTY shit,
What if I think voting third party is the best way to accomplish the issues I care about?
NO PROTEST VOTES,
I agree with that, as my reply above said.
PARTICIPATING IN PRIMARIES,
Yes, but they aren't the be-all-end-all some think they are, as this year showed.
and VOTING FOR ONE OF THE TWO.
Sorry, now I have to tell you to fuck off. I vote for who I want, from whichever party, for my own reason. If that happens to be NOT one of the two main parties, so be it. It is my choice, my vote, not yours. So, again, kindly fuck off.
FUCK.
Not tonight, my wife is too depressed.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
What about that good chunk of Americans who didn't vote for him. Why should we suffer?
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
No we will just surrender.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
You missed the import of the last sentence. Some foreigners entering the US are expecting us to let them, for instance, enforce Sharia law - female genital mutilation included. Yet the US is accused of racism and xenophobia because the US protects women from Muslims.
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We may as well get started learning Russian now, for the inevitable consequences of The Donald pulling the US out of NATO.
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Eat the rich.
Time and the New York Daily News have been left wing rags for over 50 years. Try citing a reliable source.
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Thank you, America, for showing us who is the very, very best from the most powerful nation in the world. The high ethical and moral standards in his business and private life stand as an example for the rest of the world. We are humbled by this great man. There was this misconception that only Africa can produce rulers with these qualities. We are no longer alone. We are in awe. Bugger the west with their outdated perception of leadership. Welcome America
PARTICIPATING IN PRIMARIES,
Yes, but they aren't the be-all-end-all some think they are, as this year showed.
I disagree, if the voters had done their jobs in the primaries, we wouldn't have had the choice of the two worst candidates not only in this election, but in my lifetime.
Jesus fucking Christ. I didn't want this (as my posting record will certainly show), but there is that smug desire to wag fingers and say I told you, isn't there?
The moment Brexit happened, I strongly suspected Trump was headed for the White House. Two completely unrelated things, you say? Not at all. The point is this: Project Fear has run its course. If you tell people "Oh No, if you don't vote for the status quo, warts and all, things will get so so bad!", they will be inclined to tell you to go fuck yourself up an ass with a cactus. And if the Brits were willing to do that, for fuck's sake, Americans surely were as well.
Should I say it? Does it need to be said? Bernie could have won, easily. Probably a dozen others could've done the same. I personally think Biden could've easily won because the man is not a phony. Elizabeth Warren might have easily won too; I'm not sure. For millennia, people haven been bitching thatpoliticians are phony and yet it's somehow impossible to elect someone who isn't phony. Guess what? It's not impossible. Now, in this case I'm pretty sure people settled on a rank phony-ness of a much different sort, a non-standard phonyness over the standard one, but...
But Jesus fucking Christ, all of this dumb shit about racism and sexism... all of these red herrings that NO ONE on the fence gave a crap about after the man gave you a mountain of potent ammunition to use against him. Scream and scream and scream hysterically at us if we don't agree he's "orange Hitler". No, no he's not Hitler or a racist, obviously fucking not. He's an airhead who barely pays attention to what he's even saying, a sycophant, a man who was a registered Democrat not that long ago, someone who was able to broach a few important topics that no one else was willing to broach, even if he make a complete mess if it every time he tried to talk sense. Just broaching the topic was enough.
Instead of a curse, I'll try to end with a blessing:
May the old guard of the Republicans finally disintegrate entirely, may the evangelicals slowly grow quiet and chasten with the realization that genitalia-centered regulation and shaming is no longer going to be a priority in this country, may the alt-right toss out its more vile elements and turn into something that's actually worth listening to now and then, and may the left in this country grow the fuck up and realize that merely being less anti-intellectual and more "moderate" (especially compared to the left in other Western democracies) is not enough.
This wasn't the way to do it; definitely wasn't the smart way to do it, and I risk spraining my neck from shaking my head but at the same time... alone in the kitchen, coming in for a quick snack but then finding myself pacing absentmindedly and staring at the ceiling... I have to admit cracking a smile or three. Moronic and foot-shooting as this whole thing has been, it does give me a little bit of hope. If reasonableness fails against cynicism, I guess stupidity and bombast can sometimes carry the day, for whatever Pyrrhic victory that's worth.
Now let's just hope we can all survive the next four years.
The Bush administration knew the yellow cake was a lie before Bush talked about it. Bush had more information than those that voted on it.
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I really am.
To survive such a powerful stream of filth from massmedia, and to win in landslide.... He is the man, he rocks! True Mr. ImPerfect....
Also... sort of... shame on that arrogant MINORITY who treat MAJORITY of the country as deplorables, sexists, misogynists, racists, xenophobes.
They learned not to elect another Bush.
2nd terms within the same extended family have not been good for the country. J.Q.Adams, FDR, GWB.
Jeb would have been another administration of Fabian Socialism with middle-of-the-road rhetoric. Boring poison.
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I don't know if you follow the news but Trump, not Hillary, won the election.
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Russia has been poking the bear lately. Russia needs to understand that you should not poke the bear.
she couldn't make it stick. She couldn't make anything stick because she's got no charisma (I'm too tired to come up with a witty joke here).
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And they should throw a hissy fit when the most powerful nation on the planet is just a bully who refuses to cooperate with anyone else. How would your neighborhood feel if the largest house on the block kept kept putting rusty cars on the front lawn and turning up the stereo in the middle of the night, but you can't call the cops because the owner of the house is the chief of police?
The stock averages aren't dropping because of a hissy fit, but because they know that trade is going to be badly disrupted and it's time to put that money someplace safe until it blows over.
he has a very real agenda and it was made clear early on that he'd be running the show behind the scenes, not Trump.
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Don't be daft and lie to yourself that Trump won because America is overwhelmingly populated by misogynists, homophobes, racists, and xenophobes.
He won because he spoke up on behalf of the workers who lost their jobs to outsourcing, due to free trade deals and H1-B1 programs and illegal immigration that favor big business at the expense of the middle class. Clinton pretty much openly pledged her allegiance to Wall Street, so those desperate for work already made up their minds.
That's definitely the biggest issue. There's also the fact that the Democrats are still supporting Planned Parenthood even though they've been caught multiple times illegally selling baby carcases to maximize their profits and not reporting ongoing sexual abuse, and the fact that Clinton's the war hawkiest war hawk in recent memory and people don't much like having America bombing every country it can get its grubby hands on. But hey, keep telling yourself that it's because everybody else is so uneducated and votes out of fear. I'm sure Trump won't win his reelection off of your same mistakes.
It's not a tradition. We haven't had clowns before. We've had actors (one who looks pretty damn good right now to the Democrats), haberdashers, boatloads of lawyers, generals, injun fighters, and professional politicians. Oh wait... I guess professional politicians do count as clowns...
The DNC's failure started long before that, they should not have attempted a coronation.
This year's Democrat primary was truly weird, no Presidential incumbent but only a single prominent Democrat running? How the hell did that happen? It should have been a crowded field like 2008. Somehow the party machine convinced other prominent Democrats to stay out of the race, "it was her turn". There was one token opponent who mostly said he largely agreed with her and that she would be a good President. And there was the Independent running as a Democrat, a party outsider, Bernie.
It should have been a crowded Democratic primary field like 2008 and a more viable candidate emerging like in 2008. But that didn't work out for the party machine's preferred candidate last time did it, so they worked to avoid that same mistake and essentially ran here "unopposed" in the primary. The shock of Bernie doing so well should have told them something, but no, "it was her turn".
[sarcasm] DNC, thank you for Trump. You found the one candidate he could beat [/sarcasm].
Bu-bu-but... Hillary had a 99 percent chance of winning!
But... Google owner donated $50 million!
But... But... Nazi xenophobic Hitler racist words words words!
Best fucking day of my life.
You can move to Sweden english is not a problem here, I don't know how fast you can become a citizen. But a friend, who has been living here for 7 years, applied directly after Brexit and got it this october. Getting an appartment is kind of hard.
Except that Congress is also controlled by Republicans. And soon the SCOTUS will also be. Feel better now?
Operationalizing the Strategy Pied Piper Candidates ... but this is exactly the way Hitler came to power.
I'm not saying Trump is like Hitler - in terms of evil & fascist Hitler, Himmler and Co. are completely off the charts - but what I'm saying is, that this is the strategy that failed in the Weimar Republic and brought Hitler to power. The fat-cats thought they could use his mouth and controll him. They were wrong.
I hope Trump turns halfway normal after passing this racket they call US elections. I have to admit, it *is* impressive the way he pulled it off against quite a few odds and our intellectual delusions about how things should be.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
I hope the mess, la pagaille, die Schweinerei which the Clintons created in Eurasia will be sorted out by Donald and some semblance of normality returns.
the last 2 digits are 99.
lucm, indeed.
Oh thank goodness you brought up guns. You know the biggest obstacle to gun ownership in the past 8 years?
It sure wasn't having to cross the border from Mexico.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
To put it bluntly: you can pay Trump $20 to hold up a Dr. Pepper can during a speech. You'd have to pay Hillary first the $20 she is already getting from Coke, and then another $20 for her to hold up your beverage of choice.
And if she thinks it's too obvious, she will take your $40, then have Bill hand Chelsea a Dr Pepper off to stage left during her speech.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
That's not voter disullisionment, that's a landslide. An overwhelming message. Presidency, house, congress.
When Obama got a similar result in his first election you probably called it a watershed moment and cried in your living room while screaming "yes we can". Now that Trump wiped the floor with the democratic party, for the same numbers you come out calling him a clown and claiming the election is not representative of the people's true wish.
You're shocked tonight because you've been listening to the big time liberal media propaganda for 18 months. But if there's one thing they can't lie about or misrepresent it's the results of the election, so right here tonight you've got the real truth for the first time about what people think of Trump.
lucm, indeed.
Trump is less likely to start WWIII than Hillary Clinton because it's just not the done thing to open fire on your boss.
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FBI = SS
Sorry pal, but that is a bit of a stretch.
The SS are way off the charts even when if comes to evil fanatic fascist organisations. ISIS is a friendly debate club in comparsion. If there were an organisation like the SS in authority power in the US, you wouldn't be posting this on the intarweb. Or you'd be doing it exactly once and then be hauled off to forced labour and then recycled in the Zyklon-B showers.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
This election was just like the Arab spring. Take the information monopoly out of the hands of the biased elites and use social media to reach everyone with the real message.
They did their best to sabotage him but Twitter and Facebook are the main reasons for the Trump victory.
lucm, indeed.
1. Barbra Streisand 2. Bryan Cranston 3. Miley Cyrus 4. Lena Dunham 5. Amy Schumer 6. Jon Stewart 7. Cher 8. Chelsea Handler 9. Samuel L. Jackson 10. Whoopi Goldberg 11. Neve Campbell 12. Keegan-Michael Key 13. George Lopez 14. Ne-Yo 15. Rev. Al Sharpton 16. Raven-Symoné
Don't let the door hit your rears on the way out you babies!
Hopefully Ellen Pao will join them.
lucm, indeed.
Did you forget about his big golf course in Scotland? He has many foreign properties and HUUUGE conflicts of interests he cannot disassociate himself from.
Trump International is a global company with properties all over the world. Also, most of the money for his campaign did not come from him and he often used his campaign to pay himself to use his properties for campaign events.
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Actually, he has so many international business deals all over the world that the world owns him.
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People said they were terrified for Obama's safety 8 years ago... Most of the people with guns like this guy a lot better. :)
Guns don't kill presidents, Democrats do.
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lucm, indeed.
He's moving from the ultra-conservative right to the conspiracy laced alt-right (i.e. birthism).
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Every country has some weird traditions. USA's is electing a clown as president.
I am sure it will not be as bad as most people think. After all president is constrained by the budget set by congress. Neither can a president declare war without their approval. I am sure that if he really starts to act out then impeachment is on the table.
Still, you have to wonder about the voter disillusionment to get such a result.
What worries me is what happens when nothing is done to alleviate that voter disillusionment you speak of because if there is one certainty in all of this it is that nothing will be done to fix the root causes of the problems the US and a number of other countries are experiences.
On the DNC side, Clinton is the last Neocon. N.
It's funny how I keep seeing people using that term, without knowing what it actually means. Hint: It isn't someone who supports wars.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Well, ignorant wealthy old white dude wins US presidency on the back of exaggerated hopes-and-fears based campaign... I don't really see what's surprising or new here. Appalling, certainly. Surprising, no.
Baloney. Trump only called for a halt on immigration of Muslims until we have better vetting. He did not call to ban or deport or even mistreat all Muslims. Try reading the actual statement not the deliberate mis-interpretation by the left wing media.
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Such as, how much do Trump's people know about the energy situation. Trump himself has said some good things, like finally opening the Shoreham nuclear plant, but during the campaign he promoted coal, everyone's least favorite energy source, and ducked a question about opening Yucca Mountain. At least we'll get the Dakota Access Pipeline finished now, and probably as part of a specific push for energy independence.
My predictions:
Home politics
- say goodbye to collective medical insurance
- prepare for a radical right-wing supreme justice
- prepare for a tax system that's even more favourable for the rich, expect inequality in income net worth to increase sharply
- expect tax rises on the middle class to fill budgetary holes
- prepare for really stupid (and non-functional) "trickle down" economic policies
- prepare for an increase in racism and gender discrimination in society
- expect the education system to get worse
- expect environmental protection laws and oversight to be gutted
Foreign policy
- prepare for disastrously stupid and venal politics in Iraq and Syria, including the targeting of innocent civilians to get one or two terrorists
- prepare for extended US military commitment in Iraq, Syria
- prepare for major loss of US influence, partners, and significance in Asia
- prepare for disastrous policy with respect to China, probably leading to a trade war the US is going to lose, perhaps the start of a major military conflict in Asia
- prepare to lose big in geopolitical manoeuvring against a wily and resurgent Russia due to terminally stupid policies
Did I miss anything? Probably. I have total confidence in President Trump to exceed expectations on the above list.
The US congress has declared war 11 times the last one in 1942.
You went to fucking Vietnam without congressional approval. Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. There's no need for congressional approval for the president to deploy military force, and since this precedent has long since been established I don't think for a second Trump will even try to get congressional approval if he wants to play war-games in the mdddile-east or wherever.
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
Yup. Bernie could have won against Trump. Biden could have won against Trump (although I understand the issue there is he didn't really want to run.) I even think Elizabeth Warren could have won against Trump.
Virtualy any serious (or indeed unserious) person willing to project a a sensible anti-establishment persona, and not say the kind stupid horseshirt Trump has said, and also not be trailing decades of sordid little establishment-class skeletons like Hillary... I tend to believe any of those people could have beaten Trump. We wanted a person in charge for a change; the democratic establishment instead gave us a lizard. One of the more reptilian lizards to saunter by in a while, really.
And so people voted for the blabbering airhead instead of the lizard. People of or for the left: please learn your lesson. Reform politics. Create an "alt-left"... or just continue down your current path, keep making your token snide remarks and behold as the right destroys everything.
There is a bit of truth behind it but not as much.
Media indeed can and will try to manipulate people in several, several occasions.
But the part where it will work by magic is the part where conspiracy theorists get it wrong.
So, what you're essentially saying is that you want the US to turn into a full-on plutocracy in which one will simply die without a job/income? And this at a time where menial jobs are fast disappearing because automation and machines are fast becoming more effective than human workers? And at the same time you want to make sure getting education becomes more difficult if not altogether impossible for people who cannot afford to take massive debt.
Do you understand what life under such a system would actually be like? It would essentially destroy any social mobility that you guys have left and mean that anyone born into a poor/uneducated family would permanently stay that way.
If this is the direction you guys want to be heading to, I'm doubly glad I'm not american, that's just lunacy.
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
Were you also calling the FBI "SS" when the Clintons used it to discredit the people in charge of travel at the White House since Kennedy to replace them with family members and friends?
lucm, indeed.
the republicans will control all branches. It will be interesting to see what they do with that power in the upcoming years.
"Interesting" is the wrong word. Terrifying is closer to the mark. I'm incredibly disappointed in my country for electing such a pathetic excuse for a human to run the country without any opposition to hold him in check.
With all sincerity, next time, yes, vote your conscious. I, a white male small-el libertarian, voted for Jill Stein, and will get shit for it.
You should get shit for it because you know (or should know) that you effectively handed your vote to someone else. There was ZERO chance of Jill Stein getting elected. Nobody will give a shit about whatever "statement" you were clumsily trying to make. Unless our voting system changes (scant chance of that) then any vote for someone other than one of the major party candidates is essentially the same as not voting at all. You effectively decided to let someone else choose the president. You have the right to vote for whoever you like best but you are idiotic for exercising that right in plain denial of the reality of the situation.
rexit remorse will set in quickly and a D wave will flow into Congress in 2018.
I'm more concerned about 2020 because that election is the one that will determine who gets to gerrymander the congressional seats for the next 10 years. The reason the republicans control congress right now is largely thanks to the results of the 2010 election.
The people that have the guns have no problem with Mr. Trump.
The North Atlantic Treaty Alliance which has contained Russian expansion for such a long time is about to end. Eastern Europe and perhaps even Germany will be lost. Isreal my be providing more warm water ports to Russia as well.
It's gonna be Not Very Fun At All to be a illegal alien in the US for the next couple of years.
As if it's been nothing but roses and daisies up until now...
What actual evidence do you have that Trump will attack minorities?
His comments about latinos. His history of discrimination against blacks. His comments about muslims. His support of white supremacists.
Note the scene where the criminals pay for a good lawyer and the state does not want to go against people with money.
It's the future in the new Kingdom.
Can't blame me. I voted for the adult. Unfortunately the petulant man-child won (by a very narrow margin in the popular vote.)
There's not going to be a president Donald Trump, thats not going to happen.
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If I remember correctly, wasn't the launch codes 00000000. they might not really have changed them.
You can't elect women that don't run.
There are many reasons why Congress and the population as a whole don't sample equally.
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We've always had one party. The Repubcrats and the Demolicans. The same people fund both of them. I don't see why everyone's upset.
Then you are well and truly clueless or you simply don't actually care.
passed Romney care which, although helping the poorest get something resembling crappy healthcare, has pretty much tied the middle class to the same shitty system they had before, except prices went up.
The prices were going up even more before the Affordable Care Act and had been going up for many years prior to it's passage, often by double digit percentages each year. Worse, millions of people were unable to get insurance outside of work before that act was passed. Furthermore losing your job typically meant losing health coverage which is absolutely criminal. Whatever flaws there are in the ACA the republicans have certainly shown zero interest in actually dealing with them or passing laws to make life better for the citizens of this country.
Trump is no better or worse than Hillary
I could not disagree more. He is FAR worse than Clinton in almost every possibly way that I could care about.
The last president that tried to change things in a meaningful way was shot to death in Dallas.
Poppycock. The Voting Rights Act, Head Start, Food Stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, The Civil Rights Act of 1968, the Freedom Of Information Act, the Wilderness Act, Americorps VISTA, and prohibiting age discrimination in employment all under the Johnson administration aren't meaningful attempts to change things? I could mention honest efforts to change things by most of the presidents that followed as well.
Only real loss there is Samuel L Jackson. Now he'll have to travel here to be a bad-ass in Hollywood movies.
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Trump is an arrogant ass, but seriously comparing him to one of the most evil mass-murderers in modern history demonstrates a lack of perspective, or at least a severe lack of faith in the people of the US, to think anyone would go along with such schemes.
You're talking about a country with a several hundred year history of slavery and oppression of minorities. It's not shocking AT ALL that scared white people would go along with such schemes. As any person who isn't white how comfortable they feel around police. Even Obama has been pulled over and harassed for no reason other than the color of his skin. I don't have ANY doubt that there is a huge percentage of the US population that would happily go along with schemes to deport or oppress minorities.
I'd hope that you can now understand the angst of conservative voters when President Obama won the last two elections.
You mean a bunch of bigoted white people concerned about a liberal black man holding actual power. Yeah I understand it but I'm not about to excuse their absolutely horrific behavior and blatant lies.
I think it's the opposite, they are coming to the "land of the free" to get away from that shit. Also not even Iran enforces Sharia law, it's just a few Kingdoms (including our "friends" the Saudis who deliberately drove the US oil shale companies out of business by selling oil at a loss).
There is a bias in the media, of course :)
And this bias manipulates, sure.
But I'm not sure about actual planned manipulation on a grand scale (except state-owned outlets), like the idea that CNN 'wanted' Hillary to be elected.
The bigger outlets like Fox and CNN do (for all their faults) try to show both sides.
My issue is mainly with the sentiment that the 'left-wing liberal Main Stream Media' works with 'the establishment' and that they actively manipulate 'the sheeple'.
The distrust in the bigger fact-checking media has grown from the healthy 'always think for yourself' to 'very skeptic', to conspiracy territory.
Which in turn leads to people reading news from sources which for sure have an agenda and don't have any second thoughts about distorting the facts.
Or outlets that come up with fake over-the top news just to get clicks ("Did Trump shoot and secretly bury a Mexican tourist?!").
It's very difficult to come closer together if there's no common grounds.
The seeds of the republic's destruction were sown in the 1910s by the Progressives: the States were expelled from Congress (Seventeenth Amendment), federal income tax instated, and Federal Reserve created, leading to inflationary monetary policies that impoverish savers and create asset bubbles. Someone like Trump is an unsurprising response to decades of unchecked statism and the rise of the managerial/bureaucratic class; by definition, such a class cannot constitute anything close to a numerical majority.
The people are mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore.
Now Trump will become head of the federal leviathan the Progressives created and Republicans failed to control. He will have unprecedented executive powers thanks to the COWARDLY failure of Congress to reign in G.W. Bush and Obama.
But I do feel some schadenfreude now that Progressives are talking about secession.
For years, I was called everything from a neo-Confederate to racist for advocating states' rights and secession (if needed) in response to the federal leviathan that spies on us, wages unconstitutional wars, and debases our currency. I was called backwards when I sounded the alarm against political and economic consolidation in D.C., about how it was always a conceit that such programs could work without destroying liberty in the process. A nation of 310+ million stretching from sea to shining sea should not be centrally managed from D.C. -- or anywhere. And now we have Donald Trump in the presidency. Great.
The REAL winners in this election? The ideas on which this republic was founded. Competitive sovereignty between the states. Limited federal government based on strict interpretation of enumerated powers. Congressional primacy (Article I > Article II). A president with less executive power. The rule of law. Separation of powers. Decentralization. Liberty.
Restore the republic, and you have less to fear from tyrants like Trump, Clinton, and the would-be Caesars who show up in 2020. This country was blessed to have one Cincinnatus in Washington, but we must always err on the side of prudence and never give into further political consolidation.
The really silly thing about that whole affair is that it was supposed to be French yellow cake as another "freedom fries" bit of bad loser behavior.
Hillary won the popular vote, so now Donald will be our second illegitimate president in less than 20 years. Electoral College system needs be removed.
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Only if you make like a tree and get outta here.
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Your words don't represent the western civilisation. Your words only represent the ignorant and short-sighted ideas of someone who has never seen/done much. You might be even just repeating what others said before you. Ironically, you are likely to have been enjoying privileges during your whole life and haven't ever had the kind of problems you are afraid of. You think that everyone else wants what you have and that they don't know how to get it (or are too lazy or uneducated or poor or similar).
The reality is that your intransigent behaviour is precisely what increases the chances of your blind fears to actually materialise. Violence, hate, lack of understanding, intolerance, lack of opportunities, prejudices, short-sightedness or similar are the kind of things which provoke the appearance of what you don't want. Your just-in-case, unmotivatedly aggressive behaviour towards those different than you is likely to provoke their aggressive reactions. Do you want to feel safe, to be happy and to minimise the chances of anything bad happening to you and your beloved ones? Make an effort to understand and to be understood. Accept yourself and others and don't believe in generic magical solutions or bad guys. Remember that everyone else wants the same for themselves. The complexity of the world scares you? The world doesn't need your fear and you don't want to feel it, why keep doing it? If you cannot deal with something, just don't do it; nobody has requested your fear. Focus on your local community and the people you deal with on a daily basis. Just feeling hate or fear or frustration isn't an acceptable behaviour; not caring about what you don't want to understand would be 1000 times better. Stop thinking that what works for you, works for anyone else (or just deal with people thinking like you, if you prefer). Stop believing that everyone wants what you have (or replace fear with proudness and happiness about having a so-interesting-to-everyone-else life and fully enjoy it). Why do you think that sharing your fears will be helpful to anyone? Scared people tend to make really bad decisions. Also never forget that each single action has a reaction; better make sure that you know what you are doing before affecting others or plainly don't do anything. In summary: live and let live.
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Unfortunately it's not the popular vote that matters.
Unfortunately, the percentage of people who refer to this shit-show as a "democracy" will change by less than 1.3%
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"Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country."
Wow... I didn't think she'd be in jail this fast!
when a disaster is coming and you do nothing to stop and mitigate it, it's your job to do something to stop and mitigate it and you ignore it on purpose then yes. Yes we will blame you. It won't make the resulting (completely unnecessary) human misery any less real...
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they got that from him. He also quieted down about tariffs. And deporting Mexican immigrants. About the only thing he held onto was that damn wall and throwing Hilary in jail. And he even started backtracking on the wall.
So yeah, he's been dancing just fine. He's an entertainer. We shouldn't be surprised.
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then you're probably fine. If you're relying on the Medicare expansion to get you access to low income insurance and/or subsidies yeah, you are screwed. I'm sorry man, we tried...
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Not only that, but they pushed hard (with dubious means as we found out) to have Clinton win the nomination, when she is probably the "Democrat" that Democrat voters themselves like the least. And "like the least" is a euphemism when many outright hate her. ALMOST ANYONE else would have had an easy time against Donald Trump, but no, they didn't want people like Bernie etc, Clinton was the DNC's favorite gal...
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You can say it - most of us voted for the other candidate.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
We elected Trump, not Johnson.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
A Business man or a Crooked liar
It's not a popularity contest, it about which will best serve my interests.
A write in vote may make you feel better but is still a wasted vote (without some kind of organized momentum).
So the best candidate won.
I wonder how much of that money Hillary will have to give back.
I wonder if the Donald will prosecute her.
I wonder if the Clinton foundation will have Donald killed.
Rick B.
is on inciting violence. Particularly and terrifyingly against the press. I guess it's more accurate to say he's the next Mussolini. But really, we're just splitting hairs at that point.
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Shrillary would have been an extreme danger to end the human race via WW III.
Social Security: little chance of saving it. Retirees can live with their kids if they were unable to save enough. That is if they have kids, otherwise keep working.
Age Discrimination: no chance of Medicare expansion, healthcare is too expensive to hire older people.
Woman's right to choose: Overturning of Roe v Wade. Abortions will be illegal in many states. They will still happen, likely more abortions but they will be illegal.
Environment: Climate change aside, more pollution in our air, rivers & lakes. It's in the Republican Platform, read it.
Marriage equality
Outsourcing of jobs
Wage equality
Ran outa time, but the list goes on. The majority of the Trump voted fucked themselves & don't even know it . But don't worry, your guns are safe, like they ever were in any danger. Idiocracy was a documentary
SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT
We lived through Li'l Bam-bam. Eight years of pure hell following 16 years of near hell.
... and statistics!
On the one hand Russia is quite pleased that Trump won, so unlikely to be any conflict there. On the other hand, his inevitably kak-handed attempt to sort out ISIS, and the ease with which he is baited into reacting and then being forced to double down on his bullshit to avoid losing face, don't bode well for a peaceful 4 years.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
After all president is constrained by the budget set by congress.
Think about this for a minute -- does Trump seem to you like a guy who feels constrained? If Congress stands in his way, you think he'll just let that happen? Sit on his ass perhaps and do nothing?
When you think about it, half the reason people voted for him is because they believe he'll get stuff done. I can't imagine he'll let a little thing like a budget get in the way.
Neither can a president declare war without their approval. I am sure that if he really starts to act out then impeachment is on the table.
The president is also Commander in Chief of all US military forces. In that role, the president can send any forces he wants to anywhere he wishes. While it's true that Congress is the only part of the US government that can officially declare war, in practice this generally hasn't stopped most presidents from using military force, with or without Congressional approval.
And if you think a Republican congress is going to impeach a Republican president... Trump could nuke the District of Columbia on the day he takes office, and I suspect Congress would cheer him on (keep in mind the demographics of DC, and the fact that it went for Hillary last night by a whopping 97%). While I'm sure Trump and the Republican congress will have their love/hate moments, the prospect of impeachment is vanishingly small for just about any Trump offence you can think of.
Still, you have to wonder about the voter disillusionment to get such a result.
On this, I agree with you. The one crystal clear message I'm taking out of this election is that the American people have had enough with establishment candidates. Unfortunately, at this stage I think it's very unclear if Trump will be able to satisfy that desire for reform, and revamp the current way of doing things in Washington. I think it's more likely he'll get co-opted by the process, or that he'll try and run things as if he's the CEO instead of the president, angering everyone and ensuring that the nothing gets done.
They are represented by their own government; the US is not a system where the top political slot goes to the party (or coalition) with the most seats in Parliament but one where the President is elected independently of Congress and Congressional seats are awarded by simple majorities.
The point at which in the US system you need to form the coalitions is on the party level, and you do it precisely to have a sufficiently broad base. This past cycle was one of those once-in-a-lifetime moments where a third party, if it'd been willing to make that coalition, could have set itself up to knock out one of the big two--this has happened, and used to happen a bit more often. (I don't think the Green party could have done it; the Libertarian party could have done it by actually being libertarian...)
Actually, I'm not too sure you understand how democratic systems work. You think the DNC actually gives a flying fuck about if their political opponents get represented? Despite the leaks of what the inner party thinks of both their external and internal opponents that happened this year? (It's not the first time, but it's remarkable how public they got about it this year. It probably drove up the Stay At Home & Green Parties' shares.)
Europe is not laughing. We think "Oh shit! Merde! Scheiße! ..." and our Trump clowns think "oh lets make [add tiny country here] great again!". I have the feeling that this could become a big disaster for democracy,
Bernie was the last real left politicians with the Democrats.
which is what is Trump going to have to do to get that second term? He's not likely to improve the economy. His policies might cause a depression if he actually does them. So what did Bush jr have that kept him in office?
War. A massive war that left folks wanting to stick with the guy already in power. I'm guessing we're off to war with Iran in the middle of year 3.
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It's not particularly clear that there will even *be* an EU in two years. About a dozen other EU countries also want out of the abusive union.
How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress?
For the same reason that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 15% of the prison population... they take fewer risks.
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
Yeah me too. I know of 3 Trump voters, and all were for Bernie originally. I know of 4 more Bernie-or-busters that voted third party. You have it exactly perfectly right.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Exactly. It is simple Economics 101. Increasing productivity and efficiency destroys jobs. Therefore, decreasing productivity and efficiency create jobs. All Trump has to do is dump the most egregious parts of the free trade agreements and production and jobs will immediately come back to the USA. That is why Asia is so upset. They know that when the trade barriers go a little higher, their sales go down by a lot.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
I am shocked at people assuming a Clinton victory. This has been a very volatile election and a significant polling error should have been expected.
Trump is less likely to start WWIII than Hillary Clinton was.
Trump is less likely to start WWIII much in the same way that Chamberlain didn't start WWII. It might not start under his watch(like it did with Chamberlain) but he can certainly help lay the conditions for it to start for his successor. If Putin continues his expansionism (both physical and influence), Trump is very unlikely to stop him.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Didn't see this coming but it looks like the republicans will control all branches. It will be interesting to see what they do with that power in the upcoming years.
Except that Trump is not your conventional Republican the way a Ted Cruz is: indeed, for the bulk of his life, he's been a Dem. So if he has a disagreement w/ the party - a party whose legislative part is still much under McConnell and Ryan, it's no big deal for him to reach across and form a coalition of his loyalists and like minded Dems. Particularly the ones up for re-election in 2018.
That's the whole thing about him being a transactional, rather than an ideological president. He can negotiate and cut deals that he believes would be a sweet spot for the country. How well that will execute remains to be seen.
Anyway, congratulations to him on a well earned victory. Particularly the way he broke the blue wall of WI, PA and maybe MI
Not just your lifetime, but your country's lifetime, IIRC...
Women don't need "their turn" they're perfectly capable of competing for top jobs.
Really? How many women are CEOs of Fortune 500 companies? How many women have been president? Vice president? How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress? If you honestly think it is a level playing field then you are either delusional or sexist.
The few that have have been such beauties - Carly Fiorina, Meg Whitman, Jill Barad, Marissa Meyers, IBM's CEO (forget her name), the list goes on. No
Good thing that any General that can actually pass that order down the chain of command to fire has sworn to protect and defend the Constitution, not the President. In fact, every single serving member in the US Armed Forces has taken that same oath.
And the Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war. Trump just deciding to light a Minuteman-III off at someone would constitute an illegal order, and very likely would not be followed. These Generals aren't drones you know - they take this shit seriously.
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Let's be perfectly honest, "humanity" has survived seriously evil dictatorships the likes of which make a Trump administration look like a girl scout troop. You're being intentionally inflammatory.
$18T that was lawfully appropriated by Congress. The President can ask, but the Congress signs the checks.
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That is the only logical conclusion
Really? How many women are CEOs of Fortune 500 companies? How many women have been president? Vice president? How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress? If you honestly think it is a level playing field then you are either delusional or sexist.
Why does it matter? Why do you want to force people into positions that they don't want? Why do you believe that someones genitals, or sexual identity is important? Do you also believe the same thing about an individuals race? Why does it seem your most important qualification to hire someone, or have them in office is something that they're born with.
All of those things? If you want to put people a head of others based on characteristics that they were born with instead of their skill, ability, or the earned merit that they gained from hard work. You're no different then a sexist that believed that only men could be doctors or politicians in the 1910's and earlier. Or a racist in the 1960's that believed those "blacks and/or mexicans" could never be educated enough to succeed.
Om, nomnomnom...
No, it won't be. Look at his person history, revenge is something he enjoys, many real estate people woke up today wondering how the heads will roll... I know I voted with my heart, I am hoping that the USA will be able to manage without a civil war. Should be interesting.
if you see me, smile and say hello.
Score: +5, Irony
Posting about how proud you are as an anonymous coward. Truly epic.
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That would require me to live in the US, which I thankfully do not.
Eat the rich.
Really, now that somewhere in excess of 30% of people refuse to participate, and they botched this one so bad, will the people who hire these jerks now just go away? Yes, it appears that Clinton won the popular vote, but she didn't get 50%. I was one of the crowd who voted 3rd party, since the Dumbocrats and the Repugnicans couldn't nominate someone who could come up with a better campaign slogan than "The other party sucks worse."
And if Dr. Condoleeza Rice had run, we'd probably have elected the first black woman. But she didn't.
The Trump University scam alone is enough to impeach Trump and there are plenty more items that also justify impeachment. The ideal would be to impeach him before he takes office. The republicans practiced obstruction. It is now time for the democrats to amplify obstruction and make certain that the congress and senate accomplish absolutely nothing.
If the West is so great that everyone wants to enter, why does everyone want to change it so radically?
Um, what? Being inclusive and open is part of what it means to be part of the West. The change is actually the "extreme vetting" and non-stop paranoia. So why do you want to change the West?
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
How can there be a civil war when the people who lost don't have any guns or Russian hackers?
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
It's even worse than just lies. The position of the Leave campaign and the Trump campaign is that there are no facts. No objective reality. All that matters is what you feel. You know you are being lied to, of course. All politicians lie, all the time. There is no "more true" option. You can only vote with your feelings, and they told people what they wanted to hear.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
All I can say here is ^This^.
"...it was a decisive demonstration of power by a largely overlooked coalition of mostly blue-collar white and working-class voters who felt that the promise of the United States had slipped their grasp amid decades of globalization and multiculturalism." This is what Clinton propaganda machine was not able to refute and skew obviously. Not that I am happy with the choice as president, even though I voted for him, he is the lesser of evil in today's political environment.
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The more I know people, the more I love animals
Every country has some weird traditions. USA's is electing a clown as president.
I am sure it will not be as bad as most people think. After all president is constrained by the budget set by congress. Neither can a president declare war without their approval. I am sure that if he really starts to act out then impeachment is on the table.
Still, you have to wonder about the voter disillusionment to get such a result.
Actually, the President can commit combat forces as long as he informs Congress within 90 days (or something like that). And sometime he just doesn't do it, and Congress doesn't say shit about it. Declaring war is a quaint notion that isn't really done anymore. The US has not declared war on any nation we are currently bombing.
The Republicans will control both the Congress and the Executive. If you think they would impeach one of their own, regardless of the reason, you don't know the Republicans very well.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
I thought Russia WAS the bear.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Nonsense propaganda. It hasn't been done, it needs to be done and it is not a movie.
There's a reason for that. But hey, if you like the ultra-wealthy controlling everything and answering to no one, by all means enact your agenda.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
HAHAHAHAHA! Man that's a great joke. Oh wait, you're serious? Clinton would've been boring business as usual, whatever you neocons seem to think. Trump is a complete wildcard, and with unstable elements like Russia, that's bad.
If you're implying that more members of congress should be in prison... then I agree.
I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Too late to affect Christmas manufacturing and shipping.
Uncertainty is resolved by election results. This election reduces uncertainty, though it may not reduce fear.
The 'markets' have been rebuked by this result. The global cabal has been rebuked. You may disagree, but in american you are part of a slight majority, which itself is remarkable, because;
- The media globally is in league with the capital markets, bankers*, and socialist elites.
- Global interests almost unanimously supported the continuation of the status quo.
- Despite massive releases of damning evidence, the Establishment candidate was still within reach of election.
The revolution continues.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Or the characteristics that get you into prison and into congress are pretty much the same?
If the democrats learn a single lesson from this election, it's that:
Democracy is compromise.
Starting a negotiation with the premise (stated stridently and repeatedly) that anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a complete and utter fucking moron doesn't make you right. It makes people hate you.
-Styopa
If all those people who promised to leave the US if Trump won would actually leave, we'd be in a much better place as a nation. Let's cross our fingers, but I'm sure their private position on the matter is different than their public position.
They'll be living in the streets in Toronto and Vancouver because there aren't enough houses or aparments in those cities anyway. Eh
The smart money will be on shopping trolleys
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Vote for the damn issues, AND, whatever or whoever serves their ACTUALLY HAPPENING, however incrementally.
This means NO THIRD PARTY shit, NO PROTEST VOTES, PARTICIPATING IN PRIMARIES, and VOTING FOR ONE OF THE TWO.
FUCK.
Really? Vote for lhe lesser of two evils ignoring all other options? So you'd vote for either Putin or Bashar al-Assad if they were the top two candidates? Idiot. That just means nothing changes, and many voters can be taken for granted.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Slut-shaming is a liberal-feminist tactic for oppressing others.
So... OP is a SJW?
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
I did my job and was still stuck with choosing between Clinton and Trump (or a third party). So no, you're wrong. In fact, in my state you can vote in either (but only one) primary, and a lot of crossover voters chose Trump thinking he couldn't possibly win.... and by not voting in their own primary, they allowed Clinton to win.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
You Americans had the opportunity to prove you're smarter than the Brits once and for all and you blew it, great work.
Interesting times ahead for sure....most immediately the new global recession you've just triggered.
I wonder how many WW2 vets lived to see this day.
What on Earth made you think Americans are smart? We prove the 80-20 rule every day. There is a reason my signature hasn't changed in years...
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Now you have a populist who will bring back the minimum wage (while such a thing exists) manufacturing jobs from China (great going Peter Navarro - and if you voted for Trump but have no idea who this is, you are part of the problem), at least until automation kicks you to the curb. "Blue-collar" workers have (best case) staved away their downward decline for a few years, while destroying any hope of a transition to a decent health care system and safety nets that they'll need in the coming decades.
If you seriously think the NY folks have your nation's best interest in mind, I feel deeply sorry for you.
They are destructive, clueless, megalomanic idiots who must be reigned in to. That was the whole point of electing Trump.
These bastards will use ANY ideology (including cheesy collectivism) or meme to further their short-term profit goals - even if this means selling out the last four crown jewels to the Chinese, who are run by patriots.
That's the way the US political system was designed: US presidents are not like leaders of European governments. It's a system that has served the US pretty well for a couple of centuries, despite a long series of mediocrities for president.
BYes, the American people have spoken, they are happy to be represented by someone who is a caricature of the worst American stereotypes, aggressive, irrational, uneducated,greedy and violently racist and mysogynistic.
Frankly I predict a complete disaster in a years time when he has done nothing he has promised
The movie Idiocracy is closer than ever to truth .
One the plus side, Back To The Future predicted a Cubs win and Biff for president, they were just one year out.
Make no mistake this a continuation of a rise towards facism, from a greedy people who use far more of the worlds resources and have no intention of sharing.
Lee Harvey, where are you when we need you?
If you believe that Trump has said a single truthful thing during this campaign, I have a bridge to sell you.
Really? How many women are CEOs of Fortune 500 companies? How many women have been president? Vice president? How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress? If you honestly think it is a level playing field then you are either delusional or sexist.
Perhaps it's time to ask that question of the 42+% of women that voted for Trump?
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
How long before some of the skeletons come out of the closet, or he grabs some pussy because he can, and we end up with a Clinton-esque investigation/impeachment? Think he will make it to mid term?
The Republicans control both houses of Congress. You think they'll impeach their own President? That's pretty ridiculous.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Meg Whitman actually was successful, whatever else you want to say about them. But Carly and Marissa have both been as bad as a long list of male CEOs, so I'm not sure what you're saying there. If you really wanted to make a positive point, you'd have to list at least a few "great" male CEOs as your counter. IMNSHO, most CEOs, male or female, will fail to even make your good list.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
...nfortunately it's not the popular vote that matters.
That just means the system is working as it was intended to work. It also means that Trump was right, the system is totally corrupt, rigged and broken except it wasn't rigged against him, it is rigged in his favour. Which leads us to another small consolation prise, if he doesn't fix the corrupt, rigged and broken system that he kept whining about (and he won't) he's a fucking hypocrite.
Just wait for North Korea to make there move
The voters don't actually decide anything, the delegates decide (in the primaries), supposedly based on the results of the votes.
The Electoral college does it on the Presidential-election level
I have no idea who is serious and who is a Poe in this thread.
But it accurately demonstrates everything that was wrong with this election cycle.
Maybe the Anti-Trump Republicans and the Pro-Hillary Democrats can realize this and fix their parties. But I highly doubt it. Instead the next election will be more polarizing and negative than the last.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
Donald Trump's victory is a much-needed wake up call to the elites of the USA and the wider world. Hillary Clinton remembered the affluent east and west coasts and forgot those in-between. Trump did not persuade voters; voters persuaded Trump to represent them. The orchestrated anti-Trump narrative in the media did not achieve the desired effect of promoting Clinton, who is popularly viewed as untrustworthy and corrupt.
The 'status quo' candidate representing the interests of high finance and corporations lost and the change candidate emerged victorious. The House, Senate and Presidency are all in Republican hands, thanks to the votes of people inhabiting cities and towns of the USA which have been in decline for decades due to a lethal combination of unhindered free trade, advancing technology, and outsourcing of labour. Millions of desperate people were left to drown by a disdainful elite, and would grasp any life raft offered; it was Trump who made that offer. Whether he'll follow through and actually help those left behind, only time will tell.
The U.S. election result is further evidence that the majority of the mass media lives in a self-perpetuated bubble, insulated from the harsh and grim realities ordinary people face every day. Huge frustration and discontentment in modern politics manifested in the UK with the Brexit vote to leave the European Union, and it is manifest in the U.S. Presidential election. In Bernie Sanders the Democratic Party had a more palatable populist, but preferred to nominate their Establishment candidate instead.
So they did...and so she lost.
I thought Trump had a great NRA rating... what's going to stop people from getting guns? JOOC.
Someone had to do it.
Perhaps it's time to ask that question of the 42+% of women that voted for Trump?
At least one of them had her husband looking over her shoulder to see that she voted right. That would be a felony many places.
That is disconcerting, but remember overall Trump is a moderate, stubborn, and flip-flops.
If GOP believe they've just been handed a blank check, they don't know The Donald.
Where the GOP matches Trump, laws will pass. Where it doesn't match will turn into dramatic showdowns. The "Bully Pulpit" will be aptly named.
Get the popcorn, fireworks will fly...
Table-ized A.I.
After eight years of being racist, dissent is patriotic once again. Congratulations, America.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
The opposite of self-destructive, seeing as EU membership long term means the UK would have ceased to exist as anything other than a "region" in the history books. The only guarantee of the UK existing 100 years from now is it being a politically independent state.
You should go tell Virginians that Virginia no longer exists.
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I am waiting for all the liberal actors that threatened to leave the country to finally leave. Not like Hollywood has produced a whole lot of new stuff recently anyway.
You don't need launch codes. They are already seat in each silo. The code was a zero, followed by another zero, and another zero, and another zero ... 8 zeros There's no way that you can expect two men to dial in different codes for each of 50 missile launches before the first bombs take them out. And one code for all removes the ability to be sure of a limited strike, so might as well just set them to all zeroes.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
The pumpkin spice of presidents.
I will continue to vote my conscience despite your rant precisely because of the issues, thank you very much.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
Many places in the rest of the world are parasites on the back of the american taxpayer. Banking systems bailed out by the U.S. Federal Reserve, under the protection of U.S. armed forces while not contributing their share, benefiting from lopsided trade deals, etc.
so fuck you world, no more U.S. taxpayer tit. chew your own food now.
In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".
Hitler's apocalypse: Jews and the Nazi legacy, Robert S. Wistrich, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 17 Oct 1985, page 59
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Typical response to those who disagree with you...we must punish them. Don't allow free speech, or descent, instead of respecting other people's opinions. You give so much lip service to being inclusive until someone disagrees with you. Then you claim it's hate or bigotry. Newsflash: Other opinions != stupidity. I'm so looking forward to the end of the political correctness bullshit.
Just another day in Paradise
D.C. isn't a state, and this is probably one of the reasons why it continues to be that way.
Just another day in Paradise
As someone who was physically close enough to do something to Hillary before she was anything outside of Arkansas, I've never thought that "Lee Harvey" was needed. And I'm NOT a fan.
Did you forget to comment as AC?
"Elong Munk"
Is that some kind of kinky toy?
Just another day in Paradise
We owe people no more kindness/accommodation than they offer us in return. Lately I'm beginning to feel like the World's door mat/toilet as a US citizen, even in my own Country of all places. Like a great many of my fellow countryman, I am fucking sick of it.
As opposed to the current transfer of public goods, services, and privileges to private (sometimes foreign) interests through access to the highest levels of the gov't courtesy of donations to the Clinton Foundation?
I and many other Americans decided to risk your hypothetical instead of continuing the current reality.
You say that Trump is a caricature of the worst stereotypes...aggressive, irrational, uneducated, greedy, and violently racist...
Those can be used to describe Hilary as well - including racist - and you can add the adjectives corrupt, immoral, criminal, and incompetent.
No one should be happy with this election. The two candidates put forward by their respective parties were both awful. I wasn't planning on voting; I planned on abstaining, but my wife begged me to vote. Ultimately, I voted for Trump because he can't do WORSE than Obama or Hilary. He might do a terrible job, but he can't do worse, and to my knowledge, he's not a happy criminal whose family has anyone who airs their laundry killed.
Sometimes you don't need complex socio-economic theories to solve a problem, you just need a wall.
There's nothing complex about it. There are more jobs here in the US than there are in Mexico so people come here to find work and feed their families. If there were plenty of jobs in Mexico then you wouldn't see much in the way of illegal immigration.
You shouldn't worry about people coming here to work. You should worry if they stop wanting to come here for work. That means something very bad has happened.
Britain slips down to number 2 in the stupidest country rankings.
That's because we played our Trump card... ahem...
Just as an aside, as of now, Hillary is ahead in the popular vote. Perhaps the system really is rigged.
He's committed to Evangelical and other Social Conservative voters that he'll move against abortion. That means nominating Supreme Court justices who have decidedly anti-abortion views. Now while the history of Presidents actually ending up with justices that acted they way they thought they'd act is a pretty mixed bag, the fact remains that he very much coddled up to the ultra-conservatives. Now you can float the theory that he was just lying to them to get their vote, and maybe that's true, but if it is true, what do you think it's going to look like in four years when he's made no movement?
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Canada builds a wall..
I could be totally with you on points 1 and 2, and part of 3.... Certainly it should store that you *have* voted, including what time, and where you voted at, but I disagree that it should store how you voted, since that information could be too easily used against a person. Of course, you can say well that would be against the law, but note that simply making something illegal does not stop people with that intent from doing it when they have the opportunity and believe they will get away with it, or else nobody would ever speed, for example. Leaving no opportunity for such abuse in the first place is certainly going to be the safest option.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
It's because she was too smart to want the job!
We get it, okay? You haven't been well served by the last 30 years of D.C. policy. You have been slowly squeezed and marginalized until you feel like the rest of the country has left you behind. You blame freer trade, progressive tax policy, an energy policy that puts the environment over jobs, political correctness, and maybe even the slow browning of America. You wanted something different. You wanted to burn the system down and start over.
Well, I guess that's what we're going to get. Trump is going to be president and, in all likelihood, he is going to take a sledgehammer to decades of status quo. He has two years to remake policy with hardly any obstacles in his way. It's time to count up all his promises, set up the score card, and see how he does. In four years we can tally up how we have done, with him as our President.
At least it won't be boring.
Ultimately, I voted for Trump because he can't do WORSE than Obama or Hilary. He might do a terrible job, but he can't do worse, and to my knowledge, he's not a happy criminal whose family has anyone who airs their laundry killed.
I think you're seriously underestimating Trump.
Security is mostly a superstition... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. - Helen Keller
Can't do worse than Obama? Shit he was doing worse than Obama from day 1 of his campaign. Well you'll be yearning for him back soon.
I voted for Kodo
Why is it unfortunate? I'd accept the results either way - if Clinton lost the popular vote, but won the electoral votes, I wouldn't be clambering for a system that lets California and New York determine the election for the country. There's a reason for the electoral college, and it's a good reason, and the only reason people want to throw it away is because it doesn't suit their agenda.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
Or because the Clinton Machine made sure Warren knew that nobody was going to get in the way of The Chosen One on her way to the top of the ticket.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
Neve campbell is canadian already. I believe she has a house outside toronto.
As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
They did their best to sabotage him but Twitter and Facebook are the main reasons for the Trump victory.
I'd give Youtube credit too. Being able to bypass the corrupt media and view the source and make one's own judgement is powerful indeed.
Not just your lifetime, but your country's lifetime, IIRC...
I would not go that far. The US had some truly horrible HORRIBLE candidates and presidents in the 1840s and 1850s. We haven't come close to those depths yet.
A lot of Trump's supporters aren't going to be happy that he can't deliver on all the promises he made.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- HST
Applying game theory to elections means you have egg on your face, and all it does is make sure only the worst candidates are represented. I'd rather choose between two strong candidates than two weak ones because each side is trying to game the other.
I think I truly understand now why parties in various states do not allow crossover voting.
Actually, I'm pretty sympathetic to the (mostly real) grievances of Trump voters. My biggest problems with Trump are, in descending order:
- His general disdain for constitutional rights. People think it's no big deal now because they aren't the target of his disgust, but wait until the day you disagree with him.
- I think he has given license to political and racial violence.
- And I don't think for one minute his tax policy will do anything other than benefit the very wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
But hey, maybe I am completely off-base here. Maybe everything is going to be fine, and His Trumpiness will bring peace and prosperity to all Americans. If that happens, I'll vote for him in 2020. It wouldn't be the first time I switched my vote based on a president's job performance.
Woosh the people who voted against him are also pro gun control.
The voters don't actually decide anything, the delegates decide (in the primaries), supposedly based on the results of the votes.
Unfortunately the delegates just followed the will of the voters, for all the talk that the party delegates could choose someone better.
Hold it, isn't everything he said he would do really bad ?
So in your world if he does none of it, that would be really good ?
But you are saying if he does none it will be bad ?
I am confused .
Don't forget like TPP and then disliking it. And every other waffling bit she's done. Don't forget she and Obama have been angling for war with Russia for over 2 years now.
Yes, because freedom and democracy are such TERRIBLE things instead of being good little sheep in lock step with all others. Sheesh.
Admittedly before they had been attacked, Jewish organisations having support from big parts of Jewish communities all over the world did not try to slaughter everybody thinking differently including fellow Jews. First thing Muslims should do to change the perception we the rest of the world have about them, is to stand up to their butchers and their oppression of women and males that shave beards or put their penises (OMG) in a wrong hole.
Trump received more votes in the GOP primary than any Republican in HISTORY. EVER.
The problem is some people just can't fathom that the TEA party is now the majority in this country and they are now called Republicans. If last night didn't convince you... then you are hopeless. We just voted progressive elitism socialism OUT, get over it. Europe is doing the same thing. There's nothing wrong with having lofty ideals and wanting great things for humanity but in practical terms progressive policies just don't fucking work people.
Murphy was an optimist
Not all of us CAN vote in the R/D primaries. At least in my area, they are closed primaries. To participate, you must be registered as a R or D. I am not, and therefore not allowed to participate. If I were allowed to, I would have voted against either of the candidates they chose. In addition, primaries are generally not binding and the party elite could chose to run anyone they wish. That would likely cause a backlash, but it's not impossible.
I did vote in the main election. I did not vote for either R or D for President. It is my opinion that both of them would be dangerous for the nation in various ways. I also don't believe in the "wasted vote" nonsense. My votes reflected my beliefs as closely as I could make them. I suspect the only person I could vote for I 100% agree with would be myself, and perhaps not even then.
With Congress, the President, and possibly soon, SCOTUS being Republican controlled, I'm not feeling optimistic right now. I wouldn't with Democrats in the same position either. The whole point is supposed to be to provide balance, it's pretty tough to balance anything with only one side.
Which rights have the SJWs taken away? Can you name even one? How have they been "attacking America"? Are you one of those people who believe granting rights to others somehow takes away your own rights? Who are "we"? From whom have you won America back? None of this rhetoric even makes sense.
This is payback for the Powell Memo and the implementation of policy built on its recommendations, which gave rise to many a pro-large-industry thinktanks and universities and the corruption of existing universities. Ultimately, these policies led us to where we are today.
Both sides share the blame. Enjoy the hangover, USA.. but this was a drink we desperately needed.
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
In the history of presidential polling anyway, which goes back into the 1800s some time. We can say that for certainty, then the question would be whether any previous candidate was more disliked. I'm not a history major or anything, but I doubt there's been an election ever like this one, when so many people went out to cast votes specifically against each candidate instead of voting for them.
It's also pretty amazing that Hillary Clinton, the second most disliked candidate in the history of presidential polling, could not beat Trump, the most disliked. Dislike for both of these people is so strong that she can't beat him, that's pretty amazing.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
They've got MS-13; all they have to do is remind their dealer that the supply chain will be cut off when Trump builds the wall.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
This election has demonstrated that policies are irrelevant. Agreed. Also:
This election has demonstrated that votes are irrelevant.
This election has demonstrated that taste is irrelevant.
This election has demonstrated that facts are irrelevant.
This election has demonstrated that the law is irrelevant.
This election has demonstrated that the MSM is irrelevant.
This election has demonstrated that principles, consistency, coherence, literacy, honesty, practicality and reality are all irrelevant.
It also demonstrated that Americans, in general, don't really deserve their "democracy", because they don't WANT to know what maintaining an active, functional democracy actually entails. Education, cooperation, compromise.
It's not surprising, because most of the common folk around the entire world don't want to know either, they just want to belong to a tribe and get more than the other guy next door. We're all terribly keen to assign such high motives to our fellow monkeys, and ourselves, but we've pretty much regressed since we all won our respective rights to participate in our own governments.
This election has demonstrated that the American political system is irrevocably FUCKED! ... get to and fix it.
So
Fix campaign finance first.
Eliminate the electoral college.
Remove riders when making new law.
Now you have a base you can move upwards from, otherwise your corruption will only deepen. Good luck. Please hurry up.
There was always Congressional approval - though sometimes shortly after the beginning of the engagement. You are correct, however, that war was not declared.
On a board where threads over H1B's and out-sourcing generate 500+ replies.
Yet, when disenfranchised citizens vote for Trump because they hear Hillary talking about bringing in more immigrants who will compete for jobs and wages or expanding trade that would, or already has done the same, we can't seem to understand it???
Wow. Yea. The will of the people should be punished because they didn't "make the right choice" tm. What in the actual fuck is wrong with you? Disagree with the outcome all you want but punishing people because they voted differently than you is fucked. You show yourself to be a true fascist bigot the likes of which are a danger to The Republic and to democracy. This is the type of shit that is more dangerous to democracy than any orange haired bafoon could ever be. You want to punish people for voting. Fuck you.
THE ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS. That is why Clinton lost. Most don't like Trump but hate Clinton a lot more. If you don't make up bullshit excuses why that is you might learn something for the next election. This was a self inflicted loss from the DNC. Disagreement is good for democracy and your 'punishment' of disagreement is pathetic and wrong you piece of shit fascist bigot.
Trump won on platform, and was the only person putting forth any platform. Immigration reform and protecting the US/Mexico border was the first part of his speeches and people latched on. Politicians have barely paid those issues lip service in the last 40 years, let alone done anything to fix it. In fact many will argue that the Democrats want more of the same because it increases their voting base.
Trump actively questioned the decisions in keeping the US at war in the Middle East where thousands of US Soldiers have been killed and hundreds of thousands have suffered permanent disability. The President and Hillary planned and achieved massive destabilization in the Middle East and Africa. They failed to hold VA executives accountable for failures which have led to the suicides of thousands of vets and exacerbated health issues.
Trump actively discussed the unfair economics at play which has greatly increased wealth disparity in the US, the massive amounts of unemployment and underemployment, and massive reduction in the middle class.
Trump actively talked about media and political corruption, which was made very transparent despite the efforts of the people involved in corruption and holding power. Drain the Swamp should ring a bell.
Trump sending mean tweets was the only thing the media talked about, but people saw him talking and heard the messages on platform which the media happily ignored.
Compared to Hillary who wanted to do everything President Obama did but times 10. She only latched on to immigration because she saw how much she was losing and tried to pull base Democrats back to her side. Even then, like so many issues, people simply found no way to believe what she said she would do.
I have said for years that we were due for a soft revolution, and that is exactly what happened. I have posted numerous times that Trump has a great shot because the average American is fed up. If the soft revolution does not work, we will get to a hard revolution. As I have also said, we hope it does not need to get to that point. Democracy still works, and that fact alone has given a huge number of people hope. Corrupt cronies don't always win, and people's voices are still heard.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
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Between 2012 and 2015, the US population went up ~10 million. Yet the total number of ballots cast in the 2016 presidential election is about 6 million fewer than the total cast in 2012. Where did these voters go? Why didn't they vote? The margin between Trump and Clinton was around 200,000 votes nationally, or about 1/30th of the difference between 2012 and 2016.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Just joining the craziness.
You say that Trump is a caricature of the worst stereotypes...aggressive, irrational, uneducated, greedy, and violently racist...
Those can be used to describe Hilary as well - including racist - and you can add the adjectives corrupt, immoral, criminal, and incompetent.
No one should be happy with this election. The two candidates put forward by their respective parties were both awful. I wasn't planning on voting; I planned on abstaining, but my wife begged me to vote. Ultimately, I voted for Trump because he can't do WORSE than Obama or Hilary. He might do a terrible job, but he can't do worse, and to my knowledge, he's not a happy criminal whose family has anyone who airs their laundry killed.
I voted third-party instead of endorsing either Trump or Clinton.
The fact that this result was apparently a surprise is just more proof of how badly the mainstream media and their polls are so heavily biased towards the left.
Actually, I'm pretty sympathetic to the (mostly real) grievances of Trump voters. My biggest problems with Trump are, in descending order:
- His general disdain for constitutional rights. People think it's no big deal now because they aren't the target of his disgust, but wait until the day you disagree with him.
His threatening remarks against that publisher are worrisome, but it was not a recurring theme as far as I am aware, so I am hopeful that it was just blowing hot-air.
Of course Hillary and Obama have plenty of public policy history that shows she cannot be trusted with any sort of power or authority, so it is sort of a fart vs hurricane type situation.
- I think he has given license to political and racial violence.
As opposed to the democratic party that paid for the mentally ill to wave inflammatory signs at trump rallies and allies itself with BLM?
I am also pretty sure that Trump did not fire-bomb his own offices...
- And I don't think for one minute his tax policy will do anything other than benefit the very wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
But hey, maybe I am completely off-base here. Maybe everything is going to be fine, and His Trumpiness will bring peace and prosperity to all Americans. If that happens, I'll vote for him in 2020. It wouldn't be the first time I switched my vote based on a president's job performance.
As best as I can tell, Trump treats his employees well and finds highly capable people to put into positions of authority so he can be free move on to his next project.
If he maintains this behavior with the presidency, it could be a major boon for the country.
At best he will bull-doze his way through the legislature to push through things like a term-limit amendment for us to vote on and a Reganesque tax policy.
If not, it is not unlikely he will get fed up with the sausage-making in DC and hand everything but the title over to Pence.
At worst he will be ham-strung by the Washington establishment and not get much of anything done.
Either one sounds better than letting Hillary sell our government to the highest bidder.
His general disdain for constitutional rights. People think it's no big deal now because they aren't the target of his disgust, but wait until the day you disagree with him.
The entire fundament of the Constitution is distrust of the president, and ways to limit his powers.
I think he has given license to political and racial violence.
Islamic terrorists have killed many thousands of Americans. American racist backlash has killed 1 guy (who wasn't even Muslim). I think you underestimate the moral center of Trump supporters.
And I don't think for one minute his tax policy will do anything other than benefit the very wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
So, no change then. Or are you confusing "high income" with "wealthy".
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
The folks who voted for Donald Trump will get exactly what they deserve. Unfortunately, I'll get what they deserve too.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
That's what happens when your electorate gets most of it's 'news' from twitter and facebook.
How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress?
For the same reason that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 15% of the prison population... they take fewer risks.
In other words women, on average, are smarter than men and only take risk after giving it careful though as opposed to just charging in without any thought of the consequences. Can't say I'm surprised by that revelation.
Because you think the US is having all these foreign military bases out of charity? It's to serve US interest and project power. Helping foreign countries is a side effect.
... that they a building a giant wall and America is going to pay for it.
5 out of 6 people enjoy Russian Roulette & 6 out of 7 Dwarfs are not Happy
It was a choice between stage 4 cancer and foot fungus, and people have picked the curable disease.
The only reason it costs so much is because there's a drug import ban WHICH TRUMP EXPLICITLY PROMISED TO END.
I fully expect Trump to show them the middle finger on some of those reversals, if for no other reason than to have legislative leverage. Remember, most of them failed to bend the knee and endorse. Their relationship with the Trump administration will be strained at best, so it'll have to be a game of "give and take", not "I'll sign whatever you guys pass".
Trump's WIFE is an immigrant, and his campaign was run (successfully) by a woman. Can we stop with this "he's a xenophobe misogynist" bullshit? Being in favor of strong border security is in no way anti-immigrant. I say so as a naturalized citizen myself. Play by the rules, and you'll be fine.
Women are being forced to be CEOs? Do you have any examples?
Even though one of your own is President Elect, you're still a vile racist.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
"Since that time it has agreed to resolutions authorizing the use of military force."
You should try reading the entire thing next time, and then try and understand what authorization does. Authorization is in fact necessary as long as Congress does demand it, and you know, if the president needs money for that use of force (which they always do).
They just don't formally do a declaration, which is basically a 'blank check' for military expenditures.
Trump negotiating with Putin leads to Trump selling the whole farm and not even realizing it. Narcissist people like that can be manipulated by devious people like the KGB graduate Putin.
At least he won't start war with Russia.
People said they were terrified for Obama's safety 8 years ago... Most of the people with guns like this guy a lot better. :)
Lee Harvey Oswald was a Communist, who had defected to the Soviets from the US Marines then was forced back. The assassin in 1880 or 1900 was an anarchist. Leftists with guns are more dangerous to the top of the pyramid.
" as the first woman president." ;-)
=> as the first US woman president
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Why will salaries go up? He's also getting rid of a federal minimum wage, after all... so the states will not have any federal minimum that they need to keep pace with. This will start hurting in about 4 or 5 years... just long enough that he may get reelected because of inertia.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
That and the fact that he's unstable.. Yes he will go through most of his aides.. but his public (internal meaning US) communications will undermine any attempts he does via his aides. Given 95% of the world didn't even think he win, and reject him.. And the only people that are voting for rooting for trump (outside the US) are nationalists, isolationists and communists is quite telling (none of who have the best interests of the US as a goal).
I'm glad I emigrated from the US in time.. and took my 20 companies (and assets) and family out of the US in time. (upside we made a fortune selling short)
I hope everyone gets EXACTLY what they voted for.. (which they will).. Trump most definitely will be an agent of change.. but its the case of the wish granting genie.. you got what you wished, just not in the way you wanted or the desired outcome.
Best of luck folks.
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Dear Rural America,
OK, we heard you loud and clear; you're hurting. You feel left out, left behind, and disenfranchised. You're drowning in the rising tide that didn't lift all boats after all, but swamped yours instead. Manufacturing, gone away across the border. Mining, gone away entirely. Farming, just a mega-conglomerate's game.
So in your anger and your pain, you followed a voice that promised to bring it all back, promised to break the system, and it appears that you didn't much care what happened after that. You sure showed them all! Now you've gotten your wish, and elected someone who will truly break the system. Congratulations.
Only, be careful what you wish for. The genie you've summoned out of that lamp doesn't really care what you need or want, and never did care about anything but Number One. There's no point in expecting him to act any differently now than he always has. When he breaks every promise, and the only interest he serves is self-interest, do not be surprised; it's only what he's been doing all along, and it hasn't exactly been a secret. There were certainly voices to warn you.
So, when the budget deficit explodes and that golden age doesn't come back; and trade wars raise prices, start another recession, and even more of your jobs are lost; and the rich just keep on getting richer from those tax cuts instead of creating jobs for you, while you keep on getting poorer; and the allies we've abandoned leave us in time of crisis in return for deserting them; and Russia and China take advantage of our international isolation to snatch territory and power; and ISIS turns out not to be such a pushover after all; and that wall in front of Mexico turns out to be a pointless waste of money; and your schools, Social Security, Medicare, food assistance, and social programs are all slashed to ribbons because we need all the money we have left just to buy more guns; and you can no longer afford even what little health care you once had; and you discover that in the end you're even worse off than before; then, my dear, foolish, gullible fellow citizens, you will no longer be able to blame "the system" and "Washington insiders" for the terrible mess that you helped create. It will be on you, who could have chosen more wisely but instead chose to be easily led to act against your own interests.
But on reflection, no; you'll probably go on blaming all of the usual scapegoats just like before. Perhaps we really do get the government we deserve; it's a terrible shame for us to deserve this one.
"My strength is as the strength of ten men, for I am wired to the eyeballs on espresso."
His general disdain for constitutional rights. People think it's no big deal now because they aren't the target of his disgust, but wait until the day you disagree with him.
You say that like it's a distinguishing feature. You know what would have really made Trump completely unproblematic as a president? Maintaining the original constitutional limits of power, instead of growing the power of the federal government for centuries. The left has been pushing for more power in Washington since forever, because they needed it to "fix" the world. Well, now someone else is sitting in front of those levers you built, promising to "fix" the world.
Do you understand why Libertarians support narrow limits to governmental power now?
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
sweet talking snake
What?! Nobody, under absolutely any circumstance, has ever dared to insult me in such a hurtful way!!! Sweet talking?! You have seriously hurt my feelings! LOL.
Germany and Sweden
Using these countries as an example of anything bad (have you ever been there? Or have you hugely misinterpreted isolated incidents you saw on TV?) tells me that our positions are way too different.
Custom Solvers 2.0 = Alvaro Carballo Garcia = varocarbas.
I wouldn't vote for him in 2020 if he cured cancer single-handedly. He's a vile, disgusting failure of a human being.
Has anyone who said that, in any election, ever actually followed through?
Sure, the Limeys may talk funny and spell words the wrong way, but really they're all still Americans at heart.
Or vice versa.
Except, don't you remember during that first debate when he agreed with Clinton about gun control?
Not really sure why nobody ever talked about that.
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
That's normal: some things go up, some go down.
Manufactured goods have been consistently dropping or flat-lining per inflation.
Housing and medical care have traditionally been rising over time. Housing because population increases yet factories cannot make new land (although Japan & China are trying).
Medical rises because it's still labor-intensive in a hard-to-outsource way, and new treatments keep coming. In that past where people would just die, there are now treatments, but they are expensive.
College is growing more expensive because a college education is almost a necessity to avoid being poor, as manufacturing and warehouse jobs are offshored or automated. Bernie was right about college being the new high-school. More demand usually means higher prices, at least for a while.
Stocks and bonds are different animals than consumer products such that I won't consider them here.
Average inflation has been sub-par. I'd like to see Helicopter Money theory tried, at least incrementally. It might just work.
Table-ized A.I.
I am anti Trump, openly liberal and I own guns. Lots.
My wife used to be anti guns until she watched W ruin the economy in 08. At that point she believed that if America elected another moron, rising unemployment/poverty would cause people to turn to crime to survive.
So you are a hypocrite who supports liberals who are anti-gun and believe that only people like you should have rights and freedoms. Do you know what we used to call those kind of people? Nazis. National "SOCIALIST" Worker Party. Interestingly, your democrats has become anti-worker and globalist.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
;)
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Kittens give Morbo gas.
Some who voted against him, you mean. American voters aren't one dimensional. We have pro-gun lesbian hedge fund managers living across the street from anti-gun evangelical illegal immigrants!
Heh, anyone else notice the Rolling Stones playing in the background at Trumps acceptance speech?
"You can't always get what you want"
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
When all you've had on display has been rank hypocrisy, double standards, a complete lack of principles, and an utter disregard for the truth, this is what happens. You DNC surrogates and the right-wing establishment created a political environment so toxic that an honest and intellectual leader doesn't have a chance, and ensured the rise of Trump since it would take someone like him to beat you at your own game.
Take Elizabeth Warren, for example. She was supposed to be a champion for wall st. reform after no justice was served after the 2008 meltdown, but she turned her back on Sanders and left him to wither on the vine, so she could align herself with the same HRC that refused to release transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches. Then even Sanders, rather than leave the party and run as an independent when proof of DNC's treachery emerged, fell in line and expected his followers to undergo a complete 180 turn as well. The cognitive dissonance was so thick you could cut it with a knife, but we were supposed to be good little sheeple and swallow what we're given and be told what to think. Because Trump.
All the accusations of Trump's sexism, while supporting someone based purely on her gender, who happens to be the same person who persecuted female victims of her spouse's sexual harrassment: pure hypocrisy
All the accusations of Trump's racism, while rallying around racist groups like BLM and the president himself deliberately fanning the flames of racial tension to the point where police were being ambushed and murdered. Hypocrisy. Where normal rules don't apply for a certain people south of the border, and they get to enjoy a double standard on immigration while the rest of the world gets in line. Hypocrisy.
All the accusations of xenophobia, as we watch France post military on their street corners and gay nightclubs become the scene of massacres. Where there is self-censoring of any criticism of one particular group, and treating it with special consideration out of fear of inciting violence to the point of being unable to call a spade a spade, while in the next breath condemning as bigoted those who do criticize and raise objects to the mass importation. Hypocrisy. Being told to welcome the intolerant with open arms, even as mass-murders show up to free speech events in our own country:
All the accusations of being a war monger and having a disastrous foreign policy leading to WW3, even as we witness the rise of ISIS and a proxy war in Syria with Russia, a foreign policy disaster that can be placed at the feet of Obama and HRC: more hypocrisy.
The first clue Trump would win should have been the Americans that stood in the way of Harry Reid's corruption by refusing to go quietly to their 'free speech' fenced pen in the middle of the desert. Rather, they had an armed confrontation with overbearing authorty that did not represent them. They were called traitors and domestic terrorists and Y'all Queda, at a time when many people already feel strongly that the government does not represent their interests. Someone who drinks the kool-aid may not be able to understand this, but Trump isn't nearly as repulsive as the hypocrisy surrounding those that denigrate him.
Not knowing him personally and only seeing him never being able to complete a fucking sentence I'd be even more gravely concerned that the hard work hasn't even started yet and all of the fun stuff like making up bullshit and retracting it for no good reason is over. Dump is the next president of the united states. NOW WHAT?!?!?!
Proudly brought to you by the self same people who voted in W...not once, but twice. Saddened I am, but surprised I am not.
I tell you, though, I hope we do start building a nice thick wall...right along the 49th parallel. Y'all made your bed, now you go lie in it.
"I love animals! Some are cute, others are tasty, what's not to like?" - Betsy Schroeder, Jeopardy contestant
That's a good point. She'd be a shoe-in.
Based on HP and Yahoo it's probably too many.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
That's why the voters decided otherwise. Nobody wants Obama back just like nobody wants GW Bush back. We are not a nation of losers.
I said it ten years ago, I'll say it again here for those who weren't present:
Let the Republicans have EVERYTHING they want. Everything. Repeal Roe v. Wade, lax gun laws, defund the CDC/EPA/etc, religion in schools, everything... let them see how their little experiment goes. Then again, other countries have let those things happen to their people, and the rich/corrupt simply turn a blind eye.
Are they just that detached, or are they using all this as a stick to try and get what they want for their districts/careers? Let the baby get at the fire, it must learn to understand and respect it. I don't want to be caught in it, but if that's what must happen to bring some semblance of sanity to our country, if it's really come to this, then so be it...
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Don't you get it? The whole government/media democrat machine has been outed and destroyed. Don't be surprised if when you move.....your neighbors don't really want to be friends with you.
For 8 years, lots of good people have had to put up with the worst of Obama/Democrat/Media. That will not be soon forgotten.
*Microphone drop*
Yes, we finally rejected the establishment candidate form a dynasty family, duh.
Looks like Clinton had more voters in her favor and still loses. As happened when George W Bush won the presidency.
I'm not American, but if I lived in California, a landslide victory state in favour of Clinton, I would be disappointed that my vote doesn't really count. If I wanted Clinton to win and my State's already voting that way, I can't do anything to affect the balance of the closer tied states.
The USA is the country that talks about democracy the most, but the system is pretty far from a true democracy.
Sure, the votes were close, but I'm sure I could construct a scenario where a presidential candidate could get a large majority of votes, especially in the most populous states and still lose the election.
Because only clowns would want to run for the job of POTUS.... that is why we only ever get bozos.
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
Which is why they might actually make better leaders for stable countries (Angela Merkel notwithstanding).
Wow, just wow. The way idiots underestimate the character and intelligence of the US military personnel. No wonder liberals don't fair well with the military crowd.
Even supposing (gigantic supposition here) that Trump were as unstable as tiny minds imagine, he isn't pushing any buttons directly and he isn't issuing any orders all on his own. He first has to convince a military officer to hand him the information and then convince another military officer to put him in touch with other military officers who then have to listen to the orders and then input data into a computer and then take further actions to actually launch anything. And there are two of them. US military training highly stresses the requirement to follow all LAWFUL orders and it also stresses the importance of understanding what a lawful order is and what orders might not be lawful. Unless things really are very bad, no US military officer is going to push through the chain of events to cause a nuclear launch just because someone who they deem to be an unhinged maniac at the moment is listed above them on some org chart.
Expect that some executive orders will be written to rescind some previous executive orders but not every one that was promised.
Expect to see some highly qualified legal scholars appointed to the Supreme Court. These ones will be less likely to decide that the second use of the phrase "the right of the people" within the Bill of Rights really means "only people employed by a state government" whereas all other uses of that phrase in the amendments to the US Constitution really do mean each and every individual person all by themselves.
Expect that some laws will get passed and most will be accepted but some will be vetoed. Expect that gay people will continue to have gay sex and straight people will continue to have straight sex and nobody will be jailed for it, as long as it is all consenting adults.
Do not expect that your house will fall apart for unknown reasons unless it was so poorly built that it would have done so had Hillary won.
It certainly serves the interests of certain large corporations such as oil cartel, banking cartel and defense contractors, to project that power. Benefit to American people is another question.
One more thing. Expect to not hear this winner start telling people that he won so they need to move to the back of the bus like the previous asshole did.
Lucky for us our very wise founders had a plan for that. You see, right along with the President, we get a Vice President (VP). The VP normally doesn't do much but wait around for the President to become incapacitated. When that happens, then the Vice President gets to be the President. And then the Senate helps him pick a new Vice President. Now, if both the President and the Vice President become incapacitated at the same time or close enough together that a new Vice President was not selected, then things get a bit more interesting. The founders had a plan for that as well. They directed the Congress to pass a law to specify an "order of succession" that would list a number of "officers of the United States" and what order they get to become President. And guess what, Congress actually did that. A couple of times. The interesting part is that they injected their own leadership at the head of the line in that ordered list but members of Congress aren't really "officers of the United States" because those are found in the Executive Branch and not the Legislative Branch. Either way, a quick discussion and maybe a short consultation with the Supreme Court and we are good to go again.
It really is very simple and not really a cause for concern. Things would only get real messy in true nightmare scenarios such as Tom Clancy wrote about or Keifer Sutherland is acting in but even then, the plan works.
We got two months to teach Toonces to drive before we're all getting in the car.
Take off, every Hoser
And clearly this fact means that Women should be running everything, because a firm belief in the genetic superiority of one group has never turned out poorly for anybody.
The ever-prescient Chunk tells it like it is.
We MUST change the Presidential election to instant-runoff voting (ranked voting), this is the only way we can more then two parties.
No, seroiusly. Someone officially connected to Hillary Clinton told a lie? No way!!!
Maybe we'll get lucky and The Donald will stumble into accidental prosperity via a Broken Windows Stimulus.
He'll become the Jar Jar of presidents.
Table-ized A.I.
Such as Trump?
I do believe that the money you refer to belonged to Iran.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Just as an aside, as of now, Hillary is ahead in the popular vote. Perhaps the system really is rigged.
Always the same with Democrats. When they lose, they look at popular vote. When they win, they conveniently forget about it.
It's the same bullshit with public financing of elections. Their position depends on how much funding they get this time around, and often it changes mid-course (like Obama).
lucm, indeed.
No it's called "democracy".
There's no requirement of being smart, well-informed or educated to vote. If you disagree with this, you may want to move to a country more suited to your preferences, like North Korea; the riffraff has no say in how the country is run there, you'd love it.
lucm, indeed.
Ah yes, the Germany 1933 approach. Like disrupting political meetings of the other party, using biased medias to brainwash the masses, taking business owners hostages if they don't force their network to join the "right" party, using corrupt party officials to promote a specific candidate...
oh wait that's what the *Democrats* did. I guess we just avoided a fourth Reich in America, thanks to Trump.
lucm, indeed.
Just because we're secure in our manhood and don't feel the need to talk endlessly about our guns or brandish them as phallic substitutes in a pathetic attempt to make up for our shortcomings like conservatives often do doesn't mean we don't have guns.
Lots of liberals are armed.
The severe restrictions on guns in California started not with democrats, but with governor Ronald Reagan, when minority liberal groups figured out they could use open-carry to make the conservative white majority understand they weren't gonna put up with their shit anymore. Whites shat their pants at the sight of armed brown people so Governor Reagan severely hardened gun laws.
Make no mistake, we liberals are armed; but we've learned our lesson from the Reagan years. Keep your guns hidden until you need them.
Really? Popular vote is not the will of the people?
1) Trump's threat of lawsuits because he doesn't like what some one is saying is a life style for him. Here's a start but certainly not all encompassing http://www.dailywire.com/news/...
This should be incredibly worrying coming from a President who has both chambers of Congress at his back.
2) I don't you think realize that BLM is a completely decentralized movement. Yes there are crazy people involved who just want to riot but the vast majority of their protests are perfectly peaceful and are just full of people who want to draw attention to the massive numbers of black men in this country who are dieing from violence. Just because Hillary has ties doesn't mean she endorses every single sub faction of the group.
3) If Trump treated his employees well he'd pay all of them. Furthermore, his habit of declaring bankruptcy (about 6 times I believe) and thus legally defrauding his investors for his own personal gain is rather worrying. He looks out for the people that looking out for works for him.
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Funny that the person that talks about thinking for yourself seems to think I voted for Hillary.
Hint: I didn't. You're a closed minded asshat.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
The boom came later.
So a recovery could make trump look more Reaganesque.
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I'm a huge fan of your anti-RIAA work.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Also not even Iran enforces Sharia law
And with that, you utterly disqualify yourself from the conversation.
Sharia only means "law", with the implication being law from Islam, obviously. Sharia is what you make of it.
Iran doesn't practice any of the four major schools of Sunni jurisprudence, *obviously*, but they absolutely have a shit ton of very nasty laws that are enforced and were taken from the Qu'ran or Hadith. To pick an issue completely at random, women must have some form of headscarf in public in Iran (although, as I recall, it doesn't have to be as all-encompassing as the hijab), and as I recall miniskirts and tight pants are banned as well.
Women forced to wear what Islam says they should wear and clerics literally running their government... but no no, clearly this has nothing to do with sharia, presumably because you read some factoid on some airhead progressive's blog that disingenuously equated "sharia" with only the more commonly known Sunni schools of jurisprudence.
it's just a few Kingdoms
It's easily over a dozen nations that have *some degree* of nasty stuff ripped straight from the Qu'ran. Does the USA have nasty stuff ripped straight from the Bible? Sure, but we're nowhere near as bad as even a "moderate" Muslim country like Turkey, which has taken to foisting undisguised Islamic blasphemy law on their own press.
You sir have not seen me tweet!
One party? Trump isn't a Republican, he just just happened to be the Republican nominate. Take off your media blinders
That was a really great read, thanks.
Although I didn't like the outcome of this election, and in fact felt quite sick inside for a while, I have come to accept it and I've decided to try to nurture some hope that things won't be as bad as I thought they would be.
The responses to this particular Slashdot article are probably the best and most interesting I've ever read on Slashdot. And I've been here a *long* *time*.
Really. We just bully and never cooperate. So, we're not a member of the UN or NATO. We never render aid to countries for disaster relief, epidemic or poverty. We never come to the defense of any of our allies -- hell, we don't have any allies. Right?
Your assertion is just ridiculous, and indicative of the typical kind of ignorant dumbass who never has ANYTHING good to say about the US. You need to start getting news from some place other than the gawker sites or huffpo. Try an international news outlet for a change.
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I'm trying to think back over history. Two interesting concepts that are currently in favor with different factions are Communism and Democracy. Neither works. The former cannot even be started without a despot involved. The latter leads to failures such as Greece, Thailand's "Democrazy", and other dramatic mistakes.
The US Constitutionally speaking is a Republic rather than a pure Democracy. I'd rather not go with a pure democracy. But, if I must then I'd demand that the election is not settled until one candidate has over 50% of the vote. So a runoff election between, in this case, Hillary and Trump with no third, fourth, or fifth party candidates involved is mandatory. I suspect the results might not be what the pure Democracy advocates are expecting. The third party candidates allowed people who just could not stomach voting for Hillary or Donald an outlet. For some reason they refused to vote for Hillary. For another reason they refused to vote for Donald. But, they did vote creating a higher vote count needed for a pure majority. If forced into the binary decision they might swallow bile and vote for the turd in the punch bowl rather than the as yet unindicted criminal who played fast and loose with US secrets, killed an ambassador for her convenience, and so forth.
But that's all a silly argument. It would require a Constitutional Amendment to make the change. And that's not gonna happen any time soon. The barriers an prospective amendment faces are very high compared to mere electoral college hurdles.
{^_^}
So, you swallowed the 30 years of right wing lies whole, fine example of the stereotype atent you?
I have plenty of good things to say about the US. However we are often late with our payments to UN, we have plenty of citizens who feel we should pull out of it anyway. We are indeed somewhat bullies in the economic realm. We push our ideas of intellectual property laws on others, put restrictions on trade deals based upon other countries changing their laws first, etc. Of course this comes and goes, it depends upon the political climate of the country at the time. This time around we have elected someone who claimed NATO was a waste of money, who wants to tear up existing trade deals, etc (of course there may be good reason to dislike some trade deals, which is something to deal with before they're ratified). So of course other countries are a bit nervous.
No, I did not forget anything.
The people did not vote. Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin and as the last counts come in its only growing.
Unicode killed the ASCII-art *
Slightly bad wording, but it's close enough. "Forced" under the facade of diversity, and the threat that if you "don't hire xyz person, you're a racist/sexist/misgynist" etc. And there's dozens of organizations that operate like a shakedown group against companies for this to happen. Melissa Myers is probably the best. She wasn't the best candidate, she wasn't the best choice, there were dozens of other choices. Her selection was mainly based on her sex, not on her skills.
Hell we've seen this in Canada with Trudeau and his "diversity cabinet" wanting 50% of it to be women. Were they the best in their class? Nope. Were they top of their field in Canada? Nope. Were they known and respected for their ability in Canada for the position they were being put in by people in those various fields? Nope. Most of them have no background at all in the field they were placed in, many were political neophytes, had zero political experience, most had never even operated a business, done any form of negotiation in their lives either. The media fell all over itself, the internal flapping heads said it was a good idea. But it's been nothing short of disastrous for policy in Canada, the people selected are not only out of touch with the electorate, they have no understanding of the portfolios they're supposed to manage.
Om, nomnomnom...
Although I didn't like the outcome of this election, and in fact felt quite sick inside for a while, I have come to accept it and I've decided to try to nurture some hope that things won't be as bad as I thought they would be.
Almost any error can be good if it allows you to learn from it. In any case, I do expect some medium-term problems for everyone. There might be some recession and the kind of weird-but-not-too-influential outputs which Trump is likely to provoke; equivalent situations might also occur in other countries (the poorer the country, the more problematic). Not exactly the end of the world, but certainly not good news.
Custom Solvers 2.0 = Alvaro Carballo Garcia = varocarbas.
According to the info on the linked wiki page, this seems to be a decent guy which worked as "professional wrestler, actor, political commentator, author, naval veteran, and politician". He was elected Mayor of Brooklyn Park, Minnesota before running for governor, so he had political experience and was certainly not a joke candidate.
Touche.
I honestly did not expect Trump to win. This was quite a surprise.
No I did not. I do not reside in the US.
Never! My love for you will win out. You will come around. You'll see!
If not, I will break her legs! :-)
Trump negotiating with Putin leads to Trump selling the whole farm and not even realizing it. Narcissist people like that can be manipulated by devious people like the KGB graduate Putin.
A real narcissist never gives anyone credit for anything. That would take the spotlight off of them. Trust me I've known a few. You don't know what a real narcissist is.
We'll make great pets
Ah, so they all line up and have a pitched battle do they? Makes sense. Otherwise, one guy would be all it needs.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
"We got Alice in one plane and the mad hatter in another."
(By Dawn's Early Light)
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I bet he didn't get permission. If anyone else did that they'd be hauled off to Gitmo.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Damn if this form "diversity" doesn't piss me off to no end. It's insulting as fuck to believe that you need a hand up because "you got some yellow/black/brown/whatever in you." That if your genitalia is inside, or you've had it cut-off or grafted on because you want to be trans-whatever. Or you sexually identify as a high-power supercharged diesel locomotive. None of that's important. Skill, ability, and merit for the position are all that matter.
Om, nomnomnom...
After her flip-flop on Saddam, saying in April, 2001 that Saddam was "Well contained" only to spew the official line when she, unlike Congress, KNEW the WMD tales were a lie, no, we would NOT have elected her
Wait, CARLY FIORINA is your idea of a Beauty?
I know a good optometrist who can fix that!
Sort of. In Canada in the last few election cycles, the coalition is never spoken of other than as a dirty word. When the Conservatives has power they tried to convince people that it was actually illegal (as they were afraid of an NDP/Liberal coalition having more power than them.
Canada has a multiparty system, however it has it's own issues. Fundamentally one of the issues is the old first past the post electoral system. It basically throws out the votes of those that didn't come 1st. As a result Canada is really a 2 party system, with a 3rd party that has some influence, and a bunch of party's that are completely meaningless. Like the US, in Canada only the Liberals or the Conservatives (used to be called Progressive Conservatives) have ever held power.
The closest thing to a coalition was the amalgamation of the Progressive Conservative and Reform/Alliance parties prior to an election after the PC's numbers got so abysmally low due to the the far right western Canada moving to the more radical Reform Party which was re-branded the Alliance party. After the joining they just dropped the whole "progressive" part which is a bit telling.
The problem with coalitions is that generally speaking politicians don't want to share power, and are partisan enough to rather screw the nation in hopes of the next election than actually get things done. Also you would be giving the other party ammunition for their next election run as well.
All of this is due to career politicians and partisan politics. Both of which point to a guy like Trump who isn't a politician, nor I suspect really cares for either the republican or democrat parties really. Anyway like many I was surprised at Trump winning, but I predicted it, and I understand why. Something that really got me thinking is that of voter turn out. It was low. I've always heard that when it is low, it benefits the republicans. Curious I looked up some historical examples, of which there is a bunch. One of the worst in recent history was actually Clinton VS Dole interestingly enough. Do a quick google for "Why low voter turn out in 1996?" and read some of the articles. It is funny after the fact to see how the media et al missed on this. As the adage goes, "those that forget history are doomed to repeat it". Yes Clinton was a democrat and won, but the actual reality is deeper than just that.
I was referring to Dr. Rice. "Fauxcahontis" is just as much of a lying scum as Clinton.
Regarding Sanders, the superdelegates and the DNC party bosses had spoken long before the voters had a chance.
Yet the voters did get a chance and foolishly agreed with the party bosses.
It's tempting to say "not so bad" (and I've repeatedly come close to saying at much myself), but then you remember about the Republican control of both houses, the empty seats on the SCOTUS, the fact that Trump has been sucking up to the Republican more and more with each passing week and the obvious thinness of his apparent independent-minded bluster.
The dangerous part that most people (not all) miss is this: the worst parts of the Trump presidency might be the most Trump-free parts. I think I'd much rather have a GOP-antagonistic Trump saying outlandish stuff every day than an obedient Trump who gets one or two of his populist pet projects pushed through in exchange for signing every Republican-authored bill that crosses his desk.
The worst outcome is the one that virtually no one is talking about: What if he turns out to be not crazy at all? What if he turns out to be a meek, genial dumbass like Bush II, just with wacky-er press conferences?
That is the shit that is going to keep me awake at night.
You know nothing. My mother identifies her children as "white" and used to get mad when I would check "other". I learned to check "other" because of the clear rejection of other whites. My kids can pass for white, but I clearly don't, no matter what my Mother wishes.
Just today I was relating this story to a "trumper", who acted horrified, and she implied my 1 year old didn't look white to her. Two of my children have a darker complexion, she's one of them.
My wife and I never thought of ourselves as a mixed couple, but have been asked about being a mixed couple several times (only by whites). I'm a realist with idealist tendencies, stop bullshitting me and trying to involve me in your "feel good" narrative.
Cheap storage VM.
So why does he repeatedly marry them?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Smaller states still get their voices heard... the same reason Senators used to be chosen by the people running the state - senators represent the state's interests, representatives represent the people's interests. The states have a voice, the people of the state have the voice - if you don't understand that people in Colorado or Wisconsin shouldn't have their leaders dictated to them by a few large states like New York and California, then I can't help you.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
I agree on Dr. Rice. The DNC just could not wrap their head around the fact that the majority of the population was totally fed up with the shenanigans of Hillary Clinton and would have voted for Harambe the Gorilla if it kept her out of office.
NRRPT/RCT
Sorry, at this depth we're all just a jumbled batch of messages in no particular order.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
The parallel seems to be debt making people miserable and having someone else to blame for it. I'm thinking about America's recent past with Wall Street.
DNC should have taken a page from Canadian history. We've had a woman Prime Minister. However...
Like you allude to above, in Canada we don't vote for leaders (at all), the Party's do. Should they pick the wrong leader, many voters may decide not to vote for their local candidate in the same party.
Kim Cambell was Prime Minister of Canada for all of 4 months. Basically what happened is that Brian Mulrooney the current Progressive Conservative PM of the day retired/resigned. We don't have a Vice President. In Canada the Queen's representative called the Governor General selects the next PM from the ruling party. Weird right? Tradition I guess. At any rate what really happens is the ruling party tells the GG who to select. In this case the PC Party selected Kim Campbell. 4 months later an election is called and the PC party doubles down on Kim Campbell as their leader, and guess what? They lost. Was that because she was a woman? Was that because the PC party insisted on her? Was it because of a particularly offensive ad making fun of her rivals partially paralyzed face? Who knows...
At any rate the DNC should have consulted with some Canadian political pundits perhaps prior to foisting an unpopular leader onto the populace. Our political system has a lot of experience on that...
I guess what I am saying is if the DNC wanted a woman President so bad, they should have ran Sanders, and had Clinton become VP. Once elected have Sanders retire and BAM woman President! At least for a bit anyway...
Do you support background checks for ammo, and taxes as high as 500%? Maybe you don't live in Kalifornia then....
Okay, so no examples of women being forced to take any advanced position that the didn't want. Good job.
Marissa Mayer added value to Yahoo at a 100:1 ROI. Name another CEO that has done that well.
Every cabinet has what seems like a shocking proportion of people with no experience at their positions. Look at the current British cabinet, for example, which cannot be blamed on pure diversity hires.
How many people are going to be advanced to a position and turn it down if it gains them more money? Very few. How many are going to be promoted based on born/identified characteristics because 'diversity hires' are trendy as fuck right now? A lot. Since you made the comment on "British" I'm guess you're in the UK. Now look at the BBC and their diversity push, laying off or firing people and replacing them with individuals who are now put into those positions not because they're going to draw audiences, not because they're good. They're hiring those replacements based on their race, sex, or gender politics.
Keep in mind that "adding value" to a company doesn't mean it's an actual ROI. She didn't create any ROI either, the company devalued by nearly $2B despite snatching up other companies over the last 2 years. Which was why she was forced out by the board. You have to heavily fuck up to be forced out by the members of the board, the next step is usually a shareholder revolt. That's nearly what happened at GM back in ~2009 when they got that nice tasty government bailout. The board put a CEO into place that was hired because of her gender, and her actions and policies heavily contributed to their losses in the time leading up to that. The company was financially bankrupt before the shareholders could revolt against the board.
Except that wasn't the case. Trudeau pushed a 'diversity cabinet' that has made multiple blunders. He didn't push a diversity cabinet based on the best skilled people in their field or was able to get. He pushed it purely based on their gender. Now you have people who are now in positions and the portfolios they're to manage are far outside of their skill level to maintain.
Om, nomnomnom...
No worries, I understand!
True that, amazingly.
On the night of the election I actually spoke to a colleague of mine in Vegas. She appears to be a technician, republican, lesbian-in-wait-to-be-married (but can't, because it's illegal), Texan, Gun Lover and Pro-lifer.
When I asked her why she'd vote for a party that would stop her from marrying her love, she mumbled something about guns and freedom. Then when I asked her how she reconciles the notion of being a Gun Lover while proclaiming to be "pro-life" she basically told me to bugger off.
These people really don't like it when you start rubbing their cognitive dissonance too much.
My good man! I'm not sure you have bothered to ever understand Nazi ideology. Do read up on them a bit, if you get the chance.
To me it seems that state sanctioned civil violence is a jolly bad idea. It's uncivilized, it makes your country less safe (judging by the murder rate) and what's worse, this whole poppycock about owning guns (which you shouldn't) distracts from more pertinent political debates such as poverty, income and capital inequality, employment and education for all and lastly the deplorable state of health of quite a few Americans. That last bit is one of mine... The girth of many Americans is becoming quite unacceptable, you see, and they are very poorly insured.
Socialism is just a way of looking at economic re-distribution, it does not equate a violent racist regime. I for one am a socialist. This means I am constitutionally conservative (I wish to conserve Dutch constitutional values, not the shoddy American one with the guns and distrust), progressive by nature, non-violent, in favour of greater socio-economic equality and against too much free market kool-aid. No more, no less.
Being a socialist does not mean I want to invade Poland or kill homosexuals, you see. But do carry on trying to add to this rather lively and colourful debate.
You should flip the order of your concerns. The tax one is the most important one.
Lower taxes for the wealthy and for corporations means the lower and middle classes are either squeezed for more money or will receive fewer benefits and shittier service, and thus have a crap life while .05% of society walks off scot free with the nation's collective resources.
This will breed poverty and discontent, which in turn might breed violence and instability, especially give the rather onerous decision to let all manner of weaponry float about in society.
There are whole swaths of research that suggest teams that are comprised of a healthy mix of males and females are actually more performant than their less diverse counterparts. Therefore, it would be in the interest of economic and societal stability to not let the nation's jewels be guarded by an incestuous gentleman's club.
Speaking of which, I still don't understand society's fascination with "economic growth". I for one would strive for a comfortable equilibrium instead. But that's just me. It seems I have a fetish for balance above all.
The thing is, there shouldn't be cognitive dissonance here. We only think these are conflicting ideas because we've been trained to think in America that there are two and only two political platforms. It does make sense with some personal ethics to be pro-life and anti-death penalty which is consistent, but it doesn't fit into the liberal versus conservative split.