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Laptops May Be Hazardous to Your Fertility
Spy der Mann writes "Researchers find that men who place portable computers on their laps are inadvertently raising the temperature of their scrotums -- and possibly damaging their sperm. Guess laptops should get a namechange soon... before our fertility does."
We're slashdotters after all. The only way to get sex is either paying for it or we take matters into our own hands. In either case fertility doesn't matter.
Ahhh...the great dumpster continuum. Many a free computer will be found there. -- sowth (748135)
I like having a good ball-warmer on those cold winter nights. It's just not usually my computer.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
is this really such a surprise???
- tristan
I'm not sure that fertility matters to most of the guys here.
living in centrally heated houses, wearing tight fitting underwear and trousers, etc, exactly how?
as they all raise the temperature of your nuts.
http://slashdot.org/~GuyFawkes/journal
Too many humans, not enough Laptops!
Genomics was the study of genomes, or all the DNA of an organism. Proteomics was the study of the proteome, or all the proteins produced by an organism. After this study, can we expect to see scroteomics?
I think laptops should be distributed free of charge to all male participants in day-time talk shows, reality shows, "dating" shows, and all MTV reality based programming.
Trolls: The high-tech version of those morons that scrawl obscenities in public bathrooms.
IIRC, that's the first time the word "scrotum" has appeared in the front-page headlines. Congratulations, Slashdot, on a new milestone!
There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
The only thing this article didn't discuss was it good for a woman to use a laptop? Should I encourage my wife to strap a powerbook to her punany?
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
With two kids already, I'm done anyway thankyouverymuch.
"I'd like to trade in this 15" powerbook for a 17" please? My urologist says some of my sperm are still alive."
-- There is no sig line, only Zuul.
just like you do with your meal when on the sofa watching bay watch.
moo
Has there ever been a poll about this? It'd be nice to have some idea how many slashdotters are married/committed.
The "official"/preferred name is now "notebook computer".
This heat problem always seemed very obvious to me and I avoided placing a notebook computer on my lap. My current preferred model (a Vaio) generates much less laptop heat (but more side vent heat) then my old Dell sub-notebook.
"If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid." - Epictetus
I find it uncomfortable to hold a laptop in my lap and try to type. The angle is all wrong. Is this really an issue since most laptops are used as stationary workstations?
:)
I think it's probably just some graduate student trying to get a PHD. I didn't read the article, of course.
Hey, here's some news, taking long, hot baths also kills the "little guys," as does sitting in a hot tub. There's a reason they are on the outside of the body, and it has nothing to do with being able to rub them.
Why read the article when I can just make up a snap judgement?
in a DELL training class. In 2000 I attended a training seminar for the campus wide rollout of a wireless network. Tech support training for DELL was part of the seminar and DELL sent some people.
:)
They were very adament about us calling the DELL machines given to faculty and students "portables", and never to call them "laptops". They said that the portables got so hot that extended stay on one's lap could cause injury. They didn't want the potential liability due to negligence. You could after all consider the name "laptop" to indicate positioning the machine on one's lap.
Putting a laptop on one's lap. Imagine that!
p.s.: Naturally the University still referred to this part of the "wireless initiative" as the laptop pilot program. Guess they didn't care about sperm count and liabilities
The new IBM ThinkPad... now with NadShield(TM)!
That's what I first read ... Then I re-read it again and noticed the powerbook along with the 15" :)
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
If you include those that are not married but have significant others of the human kind, that might actually hit something close to (or more than) 50%.
I talk about stuff.
I'm assuming that the problem with laptops is that becuase people keep there legs together while they have the laptop on there lap, their boys have no place to go, so they just get warmed up. So spreading the legs a bit so that they can get further away from the body, and maybe not resting the laptop right ontop of your boys might help.
Then again, I didn't read the article, and I rarely use a laptop.
Just my $0.02.
-Derek
Treat me like a marketing stat, and I'll treat your movie like a series of ones and zeros
"Guess laptops should get a namechange soon... before our fertility does."
I have always called them labtops, but I am slightly dyslexic.
On another front, I wonder if we'll see the new Trojan line of laptops soon? I'll take a pass on a lubricated one, though. :)
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
Before some geek wires their nutsack with a liquid cooling system!
Laptops go on sperm killing rampage
Before some of you conclude on your own that this is dangerous, read this.
On this site a few months back ("few" = [3..12]) I read a story about some swedish dudes who found a way to cheaply and without prescription make themselves sterile. Their way? To dunk their testes in water that is over 105F for an hour a day.
this killed their sperm, but the effect IS NOT PERMANENT! You will not permanetly damage anything by doing this. The effect lasts weeks but is not permanent.
If you're into painful male birth control, perhaps this is an option for you.
Guys, putting a laptop on your lap for extended periods of time will only make you temporarily less likely to conceive. It will not prevent you from generating sperm, and it will not last forever.
I just took a poll of /.ers around me (I am the only one). I am married. That means that in my informal poll, 100% of /.ers are married. Of course, there could be some margin of error with such a small sample size.
"-1 Troll" is the apparently the same as "-1 I disagree with you."
I normally use those foldable tables -- the type you use to serve breakfast in bed -- to use my laptop when in bed or in the couch... And sometimes I serve breakfast in bed to my wife, with good results! YMMV :-)
It's better to be the foot on the boot than the face on the pavement. ~~ tkx Kadin2048
I wonder about all those teenagers holding those EF generators next to their brains several thousand hours a year. Older studies were inconclusive, but much of the world's population uses these now.
Are you sure ab... Oh wait I thouhgt you said Slashdotters didn't have .gifs
My bad.
Thank you, HP for keeping me child-free! I enjoy a nearly stress-free lifestyle and have a ton of disposable income thanks to you!
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
With four children, I've been on the lookout for a backup contraception method and this definitely fits the bill. Now I just have to run heavy number crunching in the background on my PowerBook so as to raise the heat level. Say goodbye, little swimmers!
(Hey, using a kickass laptop beats getting a vasectomy anyday!)
"Why would God give us a waist if we wasn't supposed to rest our pants on it?" - Rev. Roy McDaniels
This must be the reason behind china buying IBM computer division ..birth control! :)
Pretty soon they will hand out free thinkpads to all Chinese men, you will see..
I'm married as well. There, you've double your sample size and kept the same results. That has to be reliable, right?
It's hard to surf left handed with a laptop on your lap. That's 50% of internet users OK then.
...The State of Mississippi has approved the Laptops for the Less Fortunate program, which is effective immediately.
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
We'll just all become infertile via laptop use. Better alternative than surgery, probably cheaper too.
More recently they are being called "Notebook PCs" or "Portables" ... It's generally used for programming in bed or reading slashdot in the loo (or *other* activities *narf*).
I remember seeing a print ad for a series of laptops which essentially had a guy sitting with a laptop bag on his side and a HOT chick in half-thigh skirt sitting on his lap . The caption just read "Laptops" in big letters and the company logo at the bottom.Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
yet another form of birth control but seriously, who comes up with this stuff? "Hey I have an idea! Lets have a bunch of guys type up some big report and then take a sperm sample!" Pretty soon we'll be testing heated car seats.
And yes, I'm married.
Phil
contraceptive?
Hey, this is a news for nerds site! Discussions of sperm count and fertility and "getting the girl" have no place here.
I mean, it's not like anyone here will ever have to worry about their sperm count. Warm 'em up, boys! Warm 'em up!
+1 Insightful, -1 Troll. What can I say, I'm an Insightful Troll.
I'm married too....
Hey, look, 3 for three. Hmmm.. seems to be a pattern here.
Food not Bombs is a nice platitude but it breaks down when you notice that the Bombees are usually well fed
Imagine: Despite the AIDS epidemic, the African population is still growing astronomically and is predicted to be one-fourth of the world's in 5 decades.
As an African myself, I think this has something to do with the temperature on one's body "down there", where the tool is left to dangle in the air. Men on that continent remain sexually active well into their 80's. My grandfather married again at 82, and Uganda's former president (Binaisa) who is 86 recently married a Japanese - http://pages.globetrotter.net/mleblank/msd/nv-moon -12-09-2004.html May be it's the genes or the food the people eat. It has been said that food on that continent is less contaminated with additives since most farmers are too poor to afford things like that.
If the above theory is correct, it might explain why the population of Africans in general, despite all the hardships continues to grow.
Now, the above are facts so do not mod me down. In my home country, these is [almost] no market for Viagra and the like.
Which is a better contraceptive, a Dell or a can of Mountain Dew?
The extra heat that gets trapped when you have a notebook PC on your laptop - bad for you, and bad for the PC. It's ergonomically bad aswell (esp. your neck), so just put it on a table already.
You just need to get a liquid-cooled jock strap with external radiator for scrotal overclocking.
Problem solved.
See? See? Technology is evil, because we all know only evil electronics could cause this sort of thing...
** slips back into his hottub sipping a margarita **
I for one welcome our new scrotum temperature-raising overlords.
I have a laptop!
Always going forward, 'cause we can't find reverse.
Do you have balls cooler? ... No, not ball bearing.
" Guess laptops should get a namechange soon... before our fertility does." yeah they are called notebooks
105'F is only 41'C. That's probably not any more painful than a warm shower.
I'd also heard this was a traditional birth control method in parts of Africa. Like many of these things, you'd have to wonder how anyone came up with the idea in a pre-scientific society, but you never know. Contraception is a highly desired thing in many societies, in part because it assists with engaging in undetected "extra-pair copulations" ie. having affairs.
Freedom: "I won't!"
Getting quite a bit of replication here. And duplicability is always good. Up for a publication?
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No hits on the following:
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http://adam.cc.sunysb.edu/acc/
However, if you take the fact that his name may have been mispelled, you've got this site:
http://www.uhmc.sunysb.edu/urology/male_in
Now I realize spelling someone's name might not be important, but thats at least one fact that must be checked.
And once you spell his name correctly, you can link to the abstract at
http://humrep.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abstr
They might not have been the first to report the story, but they were the first ones to use the headline: Chestnuts roasting on an open FireWire
Hey, I have one kid and another on the way. I use desktops. Maybe I should switch, especially since I just set up wireless in my home. To top it off, I ride bike a lot (2000+ miles a year). It has been long known that if you aren't careful with you position and the type of seat you use, you can damage the same thing on a guy. So, I should change my position, get a really old racing seat and put bring a laptop along on all my rides to keep the old "third leg" too warm for its own good. Who knew!
He uses a laptop.
Main difference between the BSD license and the GPL license: one is from California and the other is from Massachusetts
I wonder if I can spend my $15 co-pay for a new Powerbook instead of a vasectomy. Good deal.
Status set to "Away (Getting a paternity test done.. bbl)"
Your body produces millions of sperm a day. Even if the amount of sperm you produce today is lowered by using a laptop tomorrow (assuming you dont use the laptop then) your sperm production will be back up.
There is nothing wrong with being fat.
That being said, there is nothing wrong with abstinence when you can't get what you want.
The designation 'laptop' didn't happen until they had reached the point where if you placed them on your lap, they wouldn't cut off all circulation to your legs, and require medical attention.
The original Mac Portable was almost 16 lbs. It wasn't even a full pound lighter than the same era Mac Plus. (almost all of the weight savings from the CRT was taken by the battery). The PowerBook 100 was about 5lbs, or 1/3 the weight. Even the ultra-light (for the time), PowerBook Duo line weighed in over 4lbs.
Weights crept up through the PowerBook G3 nearing 8lbs (some versions weighed near 6, though). The original TiBook was still over 5lbs. [it was thin, but dense]. The current generation G4 powerbook is still almost 5 lbs, as is the current iBook.
Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
I got tested twice before I got the okay for glove free love.
It seems to have worked, lots of nookie in the last three years, no more kids. And this was before I got a laptop.
Too late, I've already changed the name from "our fertility" to "our studliness"
echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
The subject of heat doing this has been know for a while now but the effect doesn't seem to be long lasting. Do we need to lobby for a cooler running chip or for hotter women?
Now where is my Cloak of Invisibility
"Researchers find that men who place portable computers on their laps are inadvertently raising the temperature of their scrotums....
I wondered what that sizzling was....
"All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
Frog
Maybe I just pay attention more than most, but doesn't everyone know this by now?
20 years ago they told us the kind of underwear you choose (and we can include going commando here as a choice) determines sperm count.
Tight underwear = lower count; loose = higher. They even told us it was because of the heat retention, which adversely affects the count and motility (how "peppy" the little fellas are).
Now, exactly which normal cognitive person needs a study to tell you s hot machine (or a heat lamp for that matter) on your upper legs might do the same thing?
I got it. Lets do a combo study to cross-correlate exactly which kind of underwear and which type of laptop is the absolute worst . Yeah, that's it.
Or maybe we could just figure it out for ourselves. Nah, let's submit it anyway; there's no research grant in using common sense, is there?
Old news. 3 years ago Freeverse Software released the Save the Boys laptop insulator. It was a suggestion from their president's wife, who wanted to get pregnant.
My cheapo Compaq runs much too hot, so I got a laptop desk. No more burning.... Simple huh! This is what I got: www.lapinator.com
Well at least laptops wont give you testicular cancer like radar guns did for police officers...
I know what's on your hard dr
Let's just hope it's done using one of those non-invasive laser thermometers.
notebooks
JADBP
RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
while you still have a chance
- married slashdot idiot
There is nothing wrong with being fat.
Didn't say that there was (other than health concerns). I'm banging a fat chick at the moment and I love it. She's a great girl.
That being said, there is nothing wrong with abstinence when you can't get what you want.
Totally agree. Don't stick your dick in it unless you really want it. And for god sakes, be diligent in using contraception. Using a laptop is not enough. Birth control (ie "the pill") is only 98% effective. Use a condom no matter what other contraceptive measures have been taken (except for vasectomy of course). There's enough babies on this planet as it is.
#!/
The fact that they measured both right and left scrotal temps...HAHAHAHA! This article has got me cracking up :)
Try getting out into the world once in a while. Geeks actually get dates now. Most of us with "normal" people. Some of us with people that the "normal" people never have a chance with.
Don't get me wrong, I understand the stereotypes, but the 80's are over.
Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
Do what I using my cheapo Compaq: use a laptop desk. I have been using the Lapinator, but others might work too. KISS: Keep it simple, s***head
I'm married...
If we can get about 24 more in this chain we can prove all slashdotters are married with a 95% confidence.
Connect the dots. They freeze sperm for storage. Sperm is all protein (& delicate proteins @ that), heat denatures proteins = dead lil' soldiers. As my wife & I were trying to conceive, I made an effort to keep the laptop off of my lap for @ least the 2 months leading up to when we started trying. It sure didn't hurt; she concieved in the 1st 30 days.
Isn't 'scrota' the plural of 'scrotum'?
Food not Bombs is a nice platitude but it breaks down when you notice that the Bombees are usually well fed
This is very true, but only after grammar school, high school, or equivalent. Everyone knows that during school, logic is in fact inverted.
~phil
Yes, yes. We all know that enough heat renders the little guys just too languid to do much but sip beer and hang out in the sauna.
Is it any surprise though, that constantly sitting around with a laptop on your lap might have an effect similar to "birth control glasses" -- those thick black rimmed glasses with tape in the middle?
One further note: This may be a POSITIVE aspect of laptops if used right. What we need to do, is distribute P4 Hyperthreading notebooks with Doom3 to all the sales and marketing staff as soon as possible!
-- AP
The problem with quotes on the internet, is that nobody bothers to check their veracity. -- Abraham Lincoln
I though anticonceptives were considered a good thing...I mean, what's wrong with not being able to have children? I'd rather have a powerbook than a children!
Let's not get TESTE over this issue. At first GLANS, this might be a very scary prospect, but there's a VAS DEFERENS between damage and infertility. I believe the Finnish andrologist, Dr. Skro Tümm, did the SEMINAL work on this area of study.
I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself.
(reminds me of a New Yorker cartoon when Satan tells his associates, "Put the punster in with the mime...")
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
Aw poo... And I already wanted to give a couple of people laptops for Christmas. Guess now I'll have to find another (more permanent) please-get-out-of-the-gene-pool gift.
A polar bear is a cartesian bear after a coordinate transform.
To those of you who have actually managed to reproduce:
By the time you are getting around to worrying about hot laptops, the damage may already be done. Disposable nappies have been shown to increase scrotum temperature to 1 degree above body temp - and a scrotum should be BELOW body temp. This article in the Australian ABC news site from the same wire story references the problem. I know it's a small scall study, but think about it: a few hours a week with a hot laptop on your lap, compared to two to three YEARS locked inside a plastic bag, during a vital developmental stage. On report I saw pointed out that the decline in male sperm counts coincides with the introduction of disposable nappies.
My 6 month old boy is kept almost entirely in washable nappies, of the type made by Happy Hienys, Fuzzi Bunz, etc. They are as convenient as disposables to put on, much neater than the terry squares you would traditionally associate with washable nappies, and they just work.
Now the shameless plug: We have been so impressed with these nappies that my wife is setting up to sell them at babyaloo.com. The site isn't up yet, but it will be in a couple of days.
A tick in the married box for me (heh)
The funny thing to me is that as you get older, the things that would make you unpopular in school, make you ideal marriage material later.....
its just the patience game when it comes to geeks and women.
all you are, is all you are, i'm so sorry for you.
Thank god I'm female. Though I'm not sure I really *want* potential mates to be losing their fertility. And not only nerds use laptops- laptops are threatening the perpetuation of mankind! Survival of the fittest, I guess. We get this far, polluting and exterminating all species who piss us off, and we give it all up for nifty electronics.
Alternatively, we can do a lead codpiece thing in the tradition of scifi...
That is known as unplanned abstinence!
erm... How about "Notebook"?
Does anyone remember the early days of Luggables?
http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/compaq/
Researchers find that men who place portable computers on their laps are inadvertently raising the temperature of their scrotums
Scrotal Warming is a problem now. Laptop makers should be given a total heat flux quota. If they exceed it, they must buy scrotal heating credits from other more scrotum friendly makers. Lets call it the Scroto Treaty! America, get on board! Stop going it alone. Stop scrotal warming before it is too late!
an ill wind that blows no good
I have been using laptops on my lap since 1998. Yet my wife and I have 2 little boys and a third on the way.
So.. if you put something hot on your nuts, your nuts get hot. Did we really need a scientist for this?
Crushing my karma one post at a time.
I've found out that if I put my laptop on my lap, my balls will start to hurt a little after only a few minuts.
Nothing intolerable, but they definitly don't like it. At least it rings an alarm when I forget that I should avoid putting the laptop there...
I find it uncomfortable to hold a laptop in my lap and try to type. The angle is all wrong.
This might not be applicable, but could it be that you're just too short? I have a problem using my laptop if it's squished right up next to my beanbag, but if it's further down - at or just hanging over my knees - then typing isn't too bad. I'm just under 2 meters tall, so that helps a bit, too.
I'd have to agree that most laptops are really just portables, at least around here. Probably half of the people with laptops have a docking station @home for them as well as one here @work, and the rest just leave the laptops docked all the time.
slashdot easter egg:
HEAD slashdot.org | grep X-[B,F]
Try wget -qsO- slashdot.org | grep X-[B,F] instead... that'll fetch w/ headers and grep all at once. Now I just need to find mod_Futurama for my Apache!
Didn't the industry change the name to Notebook PC's several years ago? Mainly because you're not supposed to put them in your laps because it doesn't help with the heat dissapation.
*DrugCheese rants*
I've read somewhere about taxi drivers having the same problem of low fertility due the same reason. Not laptops but have their scrotum kept warm for long periods of time.
Scientia est Potentia
Try getting out into the world once in a while.
Why would I want to do that? I'm a nerd, after all.
I might have to speak to somebody if I went outside.
Sex does seem like a nice idea, but I don't think it's really worth the effort of having a social life.
The part about the extra heat killing the spearm made sense. However, from my understanding this is only temporary and your testicles would produce more in a few days. What didn't make sense in the article was that it could do permanent damage. I suppose the Electro-Magnetic radiation could do permanent damage, but it would take time like cell phones and smoking.
This would not only make you sterile, it can also be the cause of other genetic deformities. Perhaps something like Anaencephalia, or Down Syndrome (not good examples but you get the idea).
Regards.
UgaBuga!
It's my second choice...
Ceterum censeo subscriptionem esse delendam.
The phenomenon can also be experienced in a hot tub... Regular hot tub use can severely limit the fertility of a male. But a good couple of months without use should get things back up to normal.
I can't wait till IBM hands me my award for outstanding achievements in the field of excellence.
No, really?
Why do you think they hang down? If they were body temp, they couldn't produce it very effectively.
I guess next its going to be found that laying in the sun for too long will cause cancer.
Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
Have these researchers ever put a Powerbook on their laps before? You'd get 2nd degree burns if it's there any longer than 5 minutes! I'd think avoiding skin grafts would be the biggest priority to sperm conservation.
"Apparently so, but suppose you throw a coin enough times. Suppose one day, it lands on its edge."
I really, truly wonder, if we needed to do research on that particular subject? I.e. The botton of the laptop is warm, even hot sometimes, I need to do research and figure out if the heat is transfered to whatever surface a "laptop" is placed on. And most importantly, does the human body get warmer with contact - And I'll throw in "scrutum" and "fertility" in my hypothesis and get an extra couple of thousands dollars for a couple of more study subjects.
Next reasearch item: What date was it, on July 4th, 2004? More specifically, what date was it?
I'm all for research, but, perhaps the money can be spent somewhere else. Just my 0.000002 cents.
BTW, it's not called a laptop - It's called a "notebook computer."
Esta es una firma en Espanol.
Actually, I'd expect a laptop to have much weaker electromagnetic fields than a television (at least, a TV with a picture-tube). Laptops run at low voltage, with weak magnets. TVs run transformers producing high voltage, plus the main power transformer, plus static on the tube, plus the deflection coils on the CRT bouncing the electron-beam around. A speaker or two, a power-cord. So don't store your archival videtapes on the top!
Nice troll, though.
I'm married too... so it looks like (excluding anomalous results) _all_ slashdotters are married. Interesting.
Whence? Hence. Whither? Thither.
I can honestly say this doesn't bother me. I have never wanted kids, nor should I have kids. I would make the worst father in the world, and I am okay with that.
So, everytime someone warns me about damaging my ability to reproduce, I go ahead and do it. Tight pants, warm undies, gratuitous and long term use of hottubs at every oppurtunity. Now, I am going back to using my lap as a laptop rest. My Inspiron is one heck of a space heater. My boys will shoot out in coffins dag nabbit!
And invariably, I end up offending someone with my little "I don't want kids" rants. Tell me, why does the world care if I have kids? My doc said no on a vasectomy for a few years, as I am "still young (I'm almost 26), and will likely change my mind." and the possibility of a lawsuite is too great when it turns out to be irreversable.
leave it to this nations great Lawyer population to force me to own many items which can be construed as "Ball Warmers."
--Nuintari
slashdot : where an opinion can be wrong.
damm you people surprise me...
this is, after all, high school biology
When the scrotum is kept at a temperature to high (think 37 degrees celsius, or 98,6 degrees fahrenheit, yes, your sperm will die. That is common knowledge, or at least it should be.
But since the complete amount of sperm one man can contain (which is still very little, 'bout one percent of the total 'fluid', the rest is sugar and water) can be replaced in 3 days, there's no need to worry.
Just be warned: after a vacation trip of a week, you are fertile as hell :)
Don't get me wrong, I understand the stereotypes, but the 80's are over.
Not to me they're not! I'm not saying I have a problem with nerds such as myself getting dates, it's just that I really like the 80s.
Sperm count loss to temperature is only temporary. The real threat comes from the unavoidable presence of synthetic hormones all around us. "Our Stolen Future"
As the father of 4, this is the best news I've heard all season. I'll be sticking my laptop down my pants every night now until my wife hits menopause. This is like a poor mans Vasectomy. Great Stuff. Thanks Slashdot!!
+1: Obvious joke?
my password really is 'stinkypants'
I'm getting married in three months! So almost a new checked box? =)
...or so I've been told.
Warm temperatures reduce the motility of sperm carrying the X chromosome first, so more male babies are produced. Even higher temperatures are needed to produce infertility. Some primitive cultures have used this effect (soaking in hot water) to produce more male offspring.
I'm single but my g/f keeps dropping hints. I'm 32 yrs old and avoided it for a long time. I've really enjoyed the dating/single life but I'm finding it less and less appealing these days. I may be joining the ranks of married slashdotters if she doesn't do like the others and grow fangs ;)
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one the bus load of girls just went down.
> There is nothing wrong with being fat.
Except diabetes, heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, and other risks of dying young. Or how about general difficulties of everyday motion, the strain on joints and muscles, and the resulting fatigue? Oh, and did I mention that fat makes you ugly, sweaty, and totally undate-able to most normal people?
Guess laptops should get a namechange soon
I work for a major computer manufacturer, in technical support. We have never called them laptops for the 2 years I've been here. They're not to be used on your lap, your bed, or anything that isn't a flat surface.
All of our current models have vents in the bottom and feet that keep the unit raised up enough for airflow under it. So aside from burning a user or damaging his sperm, the notebook itself will suffer more heat than it should if used improperly.
Not a crotchtop. Sort of a thigh to knee sort of thing, not a ball warmer.
Make your next notebook a Centrino, or better yet a Crusoe. Not much heat from either (barely detectable from the latter)
That is why I have now placed my tin foil hat on my other head :)
that IBM named their portable computers "Notebooks" and others soon followed suit.
Seriously if you are fat weird comicbook store guy and you flop in the LayZBoy all night with a computer in your lap then it doesn't matter how fecund ye gonads be. The first thing you need to have in your lap is woman who's willing to be impregnated.
Having worked for a company that supported notebook computers I can tell you that the companies have been telling people not to put these things on their laps for years. I mean in some cases these "laptop" computers are so hot hey will actually burn you, not to mention that the new media center notebooks are huge. The standard line for customers that complained about the temperature of these things on their crotch was "Sir, its a notebook computer, not a laptop." Also guess what, if you didn't know that heating up your balls was a bad thing before this study then by all means continue to do it, and dont reproduce.
it was a laptop remember ... so where does the monitor come from.
Didn't laptops already get a name change... to notebooks?
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Well, things really don't change that much. And muscles don't matter much either. The key to getting dates is propinquity. If you never interact with somebody, and you walk up and ask them for a date of course you're going to get shot down unless you are some kind of adonis. If you are already friends with somebody several times a week in a fun environemnt like drama club, then (a) you immediately have a better chance and (b) the person knows you deper than you "geek" aura and (c) you have a pretty good idea of what your chances are.
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How is this relevant to /. readers? They're not going to use that fertility for anything anyway... ;)
It's been known for years that sitting in an too-hot hot tub for a while or wearing overly-restrictive underwear can cause a short-term decrease in sperm count. It is any real stretch of the imagination to determine that putting a different heat source near the crotch and sitting in a way that confines the testicles in that heat would have the very same effect?
Your balls need to be somewhat cool to function properly... why the hell else do you think they have to dangle outside of the body in their own little storage pouch-- for ornamental purposes?
~Philly
...I beg to differ. My wife and I just had our first kid with the odds stacked against us (agewise). I use laptops at home 24x7x365. It took us one month to conceive. Now either am am Mr. Stud Man (YOWZA! ;) ), or there really is little effect on a healthy individual.
-"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
I have yet to determine whether this is social or medical in origin.
Personally, my prefered method of birth control is 69.
If VISTA is the answer, you didn't understand the question
. . .BALLTOP computer, personally.
Most people I know refered to the 'All-in-One' macs as 'Luggable'. They didn't have batteries (well, other than for the clock), and they had a seperate keyboard and mouse. You could move them, but it wasn't very small. (I still have an SE/30 w/ carrying case in my basement ... I think I have a zero-footprint 45meg SCSI drive down there, with carrying case, too).
The official Apple designation is 'Classic Macs, but that gets confusing, as there was a Mac Classic
I'd classify the iMacs and eMacs in a luggable category, as well. Along with any of the monitor-included Performas, the TAM, and all of the iMac and eMac lines.
Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
Oh, I have been committed for years.... but those nice young men in the white shirts say I can still read slashdot. (And they wonder why I'm so insane >:-D)
If you can't say something nice, make sure you have something heavy to throw.
When I was a kid I was almost always the shortest in the class. Nowadays I am about normal height (maybe an inch or two below), but that doesn't stop me from making jokes about me being short.
Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
> Most normal people? Man, I can't wait till you life goes south.
> In fact, why don't you do us all a favor and put that gun in your mouth NOW.
One of the desirable traits of normal people is our tendency to avoid homicidal thoughts and other similar desires that include wishing everyone who disagrees with our opinions dead.
"Portable computer" refers to any computer that is designed to be portable. The original portable computers were known as "lunch box" computers. They were about the size of a small to medium size cooler, and the keyboard attached to the face of the computer, covering the screen. (usually.) A "laptop" is a small portable computer. The term laptop stems from the fact that they can be used by setting the computer on your lap and typing. Some came with batteries and some required that you plug them in where ever you got to your desitination. Some computers that claimed to be laptops got to be so big that many questioned whether they could really be called laptops. Laptops tend to be characterized by having hinged screens (LCD, Gas-Plasma, ...)
A "notebook" is a very small laptop that is approximately the size of a notebook.
Notebooks are Laptops, but not all laptops are notebooks. The Primary factor is
size (though many do not consider anything over 7-8 lbs to be a notebook, no matter
what the size). I have as of yet to see a notebook that did not run on batteries,
but by no means is battery power a defining feature.
Guess laptops should get a namechange soon.
Somehow I don't think they'll be able to slip "Dell Infertilator D360" or "Compaq Scrotumheater 5100" past the marketing people.
"especially among laptop users who may be trying to conceive a child. " D'OH! I mean.. its been a fun couple of months, but when I read this I realized the hour or 2 I spend in front of the TV(with my laptop) may be the culprit.
a quick slice, pull out a vas, snip, fold, cauterize, repeat for the other vas, stitch up.
Fifteen minutes work, and we talked about wireless Palm VII during it.
Well, who uses a laptop without some sort of tray? Mine's just a piece of 12x1 oak cut to size. I slapped on some dark oak stain and polyurethaned it. Wood is a poor conductor of heat, so it works great. Doubles as a lap tray for eating dinner.
--- Ban humanity.
Oh, man... it's such an obvious setup my brain glitched from humor overload, and now I can't think of anything!
--- Ban humanity.
electromagnetic fields that electronics dissapate are proven to cause cancer and disrupt the functioning of any given cell in the body they come into contact with. People living under super high-tension power-lines become sick and die for the same reasons.
Got any real references for that? I grew up under high-tension linez, n der's nO Pr0blm wid it! Seriously though, this has been beat to death since the sixties, and I've yet to hear of a study that proved what you're saying.
Just another day in Paradise
Shoulda bought a Mac! ;-)
-Don.
Cwm, fjord-bank glyphs vext quiz
In other parts of the world and other cultures or in the west in past a couple needed to get as many kids as possible in the hope that at least some survived so that the kids could then take care of the parents AND make kids of their own insuring survival of the species. Since childbirth was also extremely dangerous to the mother it was basically a race to get as many kids out before the mother croaked and then hope that at least some kids survived.
However slowly living conditions and medical care became better (in the west) were child birth related deaths are now pretty rare (it was once the leading cause of death for women) and child death itself is also rare. If a couple gets two kids chances are they will have two kids grow up to adulthood.
There still are some couples in the west who crank out the kids but they end up with a dozen kids easily wich is to much for the western live style. Meantime the same couple in a place like africa will be lucky if 1 or 2 survives.
But now a problem is starting to occur. The culture in africa is to get as many kids as possible in the hope that some survive. A couple that would limit themselves to 1-2 kids as in the west will (if they are lucky enough to live to an old age) end up childless. A childless couple has noone to take care of them in old age.
Western medicine is however screwing things up in the short term. With western medicine in a limited resource enviroment (no food) you would at the same time have reduce the number of childeren being born as you introduce medicine to keep the childeren alive. If you keep the high birth rates AND keep the childeren alive you set yourselve up for a massive famine. Worse medicine costs money wich can only be gained by exporting food and you get the huge mess of african nations exporting money to pay for medicine then getting a famine end needing food brought back in. Reading up on the constant cycle of death and hope in africa is depressing reading.
Add AIDS and you got a truly messed up system. Lets assume for a moment that no aids cure can be found. Then at the moment every aids child alive is just a drain. Humanity forbids us to just put them to rest but keeping them alive creates a nasty cycle of death. Human culture is based on three stages, childhood where you learn for later stages, adulthood where you take care of the other stages AND create the first stage and finally old age were your experience helps the first two stages. Western culture has moved away from this a bit but for a long time families consisted of childern, adults and grandparents ALL doing their bid to keep the family alive. Grandparents are one of the things that sets us apart from animals. Teenage wolfs often help out their parents with their raising of the next litter but humans have a whole extra set of hands with super experience to help them out.
Aids disrupts this. A child born with aids is not going to survive for long and will only cost resources without ever growing old enough to "repay". Worse if they live long enough to bear childeren those kids will have aids as well and no parents let alone grandparents to raise them. The whole social structure that makes humans human collapses.
Oh and africa is not africa. Not all of africa is hunger and AIDS and misery. Some bits do alright until sooner or later something goes wrong. At the moment there is another locust plague destroying food on a gigantic scale. Huge areas were people had made a good living are now heading to famine and all the other problems like war and AIDS are sure to follow.
As for the sexual fitness. Survival of the fittest. Someone who lives to the age of 82 got to be amazingly fit. In the west we can afford to not be fit. Males can remain sexually reproductive even after death. This is nothing weird. Just that in the west most have other luxury problems that make it all not work. We also got a slight culture problem with 80yr men marrying reproductive females.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Richolson Law.
Is anyone else sick of the thousands of posts with people chiming in with "Try going outside" or [insert some idea for meeting new people here] type posts that people feel compelled to post whenever someone jokes about being a nerd/geek/whatever, and as a result not getting dates?
Parent, didn't mean to single you out, but you popped up in a huge thread that started with someone saying "I'm a geek, so my sperm have dust on them" or whatever...
Being fat is unhealthy. There is something wrong with being unhealthy. People are typically fat for one of two reasons. Either they have a genetic problem, which means they need to take more extreme measures to be fit, or they are addicted to food (carbohydrates, mostly) and they have a problem. There IS something wrong with being fat. I've struggled with depression and ordinary food addiction all my life and I'm not fit by a long shot (I'm in good company here... h0 h0 h0) but the fact is that humans are not supposed to be fat and it takes a serious toll on the body.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Between Dell XPS/Area 51 gaming laptops and gallons of Mountain Dew, the gamer generation will never procreate. :)
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, START
This has been known. The Japanese used to use hot tubs as a (granted, not totally effective) method of birth control. And it's not permanent either - it just kills the already-present sperm.
Uh huh, I am almost 29 years, a geek, and I still haven't gotten a date (not even a blind date). :(
Being disabled (multiple disabilities) doesn't help especially with speech and hearing impediments.
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
>>of their scrotums Who are these guys with more than one scrotum?
What, whacking? Only if you have a turkey baster.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
A warm planet? buy refrigerated underwear?
SLASHDOT: news for people who can't concentrate on work or have no life at all and got tired of yelling back at the TV.
all "laptops" (we should just start calling them mobile computers) come with warnings in the manuals that say you should never use it on your lap, ANYWAY. This is because modern laptops get extremely hot, but heat up fairly slowly, so you are much less likely to notice the 3rd degree burns forming on your legs for a while.
So, "don't put your laptop on your lap, it might cause infertility" is like "don't spill boiling hot coffee on your lap, we've found it might cause cancer"
In the abscence of a good sperm/scrotum joke, one thing I wonder about (as I'm in the midst of trying for child #2) is the how WiFi affects the little wigglers? I remember reading about motorcycle cops who placed their radar gun between their legs or on their laps while working speed traps and experiencing fertility problems. (I don't recall if it was permanent.) WiFi isn't radar, but does anyone know which is worse hot or irradiated ?
the future is here, it is just not evenly distributed - w. gibson
"The above are facts so do not mod me down."???
You said that African males' penises are "really big for their age compared to western societies". That doesn't sound like fact to me -- it sounds like conjecture at best, racial stereotype at worst.
Perhaps there are some clinical studies of penis size that I'm not aware of, but the ones that I have seen effectively debunk the "blacks are bigger" myth -- the median length for men of African descent was slightly higher than that for men of European descent, but the difference in mean was negligible.
Besides, I don't see the correlation between sperm count and erectile virility that you seem to be making.
Ahhh the perlis of being modded up. All of a sudden you're referring to your sample size among penis threads.
"I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
My first response to this is- go buy a Mac. They don't get as hot. Though I've heard that the G4s get a lot hotter- is this true? The only Mac laptop I've had is an iBook G3/500, which never got very warm at all. But then again, nor did my old Dell P75. But this "newer" 400 MHz Micron sure does- sucks in the summer. Sweaty legs. Nasty.
Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
I wear boxers, so my boys get plenty of air while I walk around. The few minutes I spend with the lapwarmer is actually welcome.
WTF? Over?
Ig Nobel, that is... looks like a shoe-in.
You mean, right this second, I'm KILLIN' MY LITTLE FISHIES RIGHT NOW!?!?!?
My lovely wife would be SO UPSET to find that our 5 kids is ALL WE'LL EVER HAVE. I mean, dead fishies... What's the point of that?
Of course, there was this little operation I had a few years ago, so my wife wouldn't have to remember those stupid little green pills....
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
I'm banging a fat chick at the moment and I love it.
Not anymore you're not.
Oh man. Skinny chicks may look nice but a curvaceous plumper gives a much deeper, and satisfying orgasm. Take it from someone who knows.
And hair. She's got to have hair all the way up the crack of her ass.
Eh, I wouldn't say you were labeled as a geek as much as your obviously outgoing personally trumped it.
:) most certainly did not like - I couldn't help cracking a grin.
Myself, I was not very outgoing until my sophomore year or so, I started powerlifting in seventh grade and got my fair share of similar questions, even though I was also first chair in band and it was a conflict of interest - one that pushed results in a direction which football and wrestling coaches (I am not 6', I am about 5'10" or so and have a little more flexibility between those two sports
Regardless, it seemed to have a similar effect, although I never have been able to get used to being bombarded with annoying technical questions. I must have some quality that says, "I will tolerate any inane question" or something.
What's kind of funny is all the, quite literally, 'wannabe" geeks and nerds that are out there these days - i'm talking about the post-college trustafarian latecomers that want to fit in with the guys that were out mowing laws at 10 years of age to pay for a new computer.
When I was a kid, these guys wouldn't have anything to do with me, now I am "interesting" - oh, the irony. Eh, I guess I have an accidental knack for this... I bought an army jacket when I was in elementary school and got repeatedly teased for it, about 2 years later Grunge hit and everyone was wearing them - go figure.
I swear to god, if people start talking about unix like it's the new religion and start wearing shirts with snippets of shell and perl on them I'm going to soil myself.
Oh... wait.
Fried nuts anyone?
and we aint talking Pistachios here!
The funny thing to me is that as you get older, the things that would make you unpopular in school, make you ideal marriage material later..... You mean being fat, ugly, sweaty, having no social skills, not being interested in anything other than math/physics/computer science and staring at hot girls will make anyone want to marry me?
I think I've got the hottest laptop ever.
Well as it's christmas who fancies a song - "Chestnuts roasting on an open fire"
I'm not Catholic, and I'm not up on their rules, but isn't anything that prevents or inhibits those little spermies from reaching the egg Frowned Upon by the Catholic church as "birth control"? Wouldn't a Pentium-powered testacle-toaster qualify?
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
Heh. Also being a geek, fairly normal looking, and in decent shape, I was offered dates by 6 or 7 different females on several occasions in high school but turned them all down because I had LAN parties (back in the 90s, but we still had fun with some early games) to attend, electronics or computers to build, etc. Besides, all the date would have consisted of was the dishing out of money for some drama queen that wouldn't put out. If you missed dating in high school, you didn't miss anything, just catch up later on in life.
I wonder if this act would qualify for a true Darwin Award?
That extra 3-4 degreess is the closest thing I have to a relationship right now.
My perspective on weight lifting is simple, and elegant.
:)
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After getting in my fair share of fights over the thickness of my lenses or other silly shit, I had a lot of pent up anger.
Strangely, after lifting for a few years people stopped picking fights - I don't think it was the anger release, either... I think it was the fact that my last name was splattered all over H.S. lifting records for a school that had been around for over 50 years.
I'm a stocky guy and weightlifting is pretty natural for a guy of my stature. Strangely people stop feeling the need to push you around when they push and you don't move.
I'm not saying that's why someone should get involved in any sport - the release and the interest in getting strong for more or less mundane, not vengeful reasons was my intent, but the little unnoticed side effect until much later was nice.
When two line tackles for your varsity team have trouble resetting a squat max you're doing - they don't just stop picking on you, they start backing you up. And it's damn nice when you're in a hick town with a lot of people who have nothing better to do than pick on others.
And to be clear, it was more my build than anything, weightlifting just brought it out - I rarely went to the gym outside of my electives, and nowadays getting close to a gym normally involves passing by in a car. If I wanted to see "exercise", i'd get a gerbil and a wheel or I'd find some outdoor activity that I enjoyed. The people at 24 hour fitness make me laugh - all the mirrors, it's hilarious. I ripped out the seat of a lifting suit once, didn't know it until I went to the locker room.
In other words, if you're lifting to get cut, or impress chicks - work on your personal skills instead of your grip - focus on listening skills.. It's funny, but I guess I have a wierd perspective with so many women in my home - but most men have no fucking clue how to listen to a conversation. Often times, I'll talk for a short while and have to actually confirm the guy on the other end is still listening - no 'uh huh' or anything like that - what's even more funny, is that some men are actually surprised when I do it. Women *really* enjoy hearing that stupid 'uh huh', even if you aren't listening. Married men have known this since the dawn of time.
Enjoy lifting weights but it really shouldn't have any agenda tied to it - if you're not overly concerned with how you look, my experience is that more women, not less (and I'm not just talking about desperate women, folks) will find you attractive. It also helps to have sisters so you can see the other side of the equation.
Anyways I didn't really intend this to be what it is, but oh well - some of you guys really need to hear it.
Laptops are shown to raise the temperature of the scrotum. Lapdances also raise the temperature. Is the latter of these two also harmful?
Why bother.
Being fat is unhealthy. There is something wrong with being unhealthy.
I would agree with you, if it weren't for the fact that our current society has an unhealthy view of what constitutes being unhealthily fat. It even extends to the medical community in some cases.
If my "fatness" is so unhealthy, then why is it that my doctors always say "you're in perfect health" after my physical? And how come I'm rarely sick, always have more energy than my co-workers and friends, and so on... if being fat is so unhealthy?
Yes, being obese carries certain health risks. Merely being overweight may have health impacts, but I'm willing to bet that stress causes more health problems in this country than weight does. And, of course, a great many people experience more stress when they are fat because our society tells them that they are horrible people, and that "they have a problem" if they don't fit into some "beautiful person" mold.
We may not imagine how our lives could be more frustrating and complex—but Congress can. – Cullen Hightower
Or how about being from a culture where being thin as a stick isn't looked upon as being desirable?
If you ate properly, you wouldn't need to diet. If you're eating to make yourself feel better, you're hooked on glucose. Over time your brain will require more and more glucose for you to feel full, and thus content, and your addiction will only become more pronounced. I feel for you, because I have gone through and am going through parts of the same cycle, but ultimately it's not about your depression, it's about using food as a coping mechanism.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Yeah, nothing wrong with being chubby at all. I used to date skinny girls, but chubby ones are much more fun (obviously not TOO fat, just enough meat around the bones).
I ended up marrying one of them, and more the happier!
And yes, abstinence is better than paying for it, if you cant get what you want. I dont see how you can just pay a person to screw you.... it missed most of the reasons to make love.. (hint.. LOVE)
Have a nice day!
There is a place in between how fat I am now for example, and being thin as a stick, which is considered healthy. A doctor (the only person you should be listening to as to how fat you need to be or not be) will tell you that being overly skinny is not healthy either. The cultural expectation of anorexia is a real problem but there are physical issues related to the way we use food that are, I believe, more significant.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
This is so utterly dumb. Sperm are not egg cells, they are not a fixed, limited quantity. They are not in limited supply. In other words any such effect is temporary and will not affect a man's fertility. Who writes this stuff ...
While I seriously wonder why, so many people here spout off meme's without bothering to at least construct them craftily, that it makes me think someone's contructed a robot to fill in slashdot articles with random fluff ala eliza.
.5 second exposure to a very unlikely high of 13mg of tar. Holy shit, the sky is falling.
Anyways, "try going outside" can be responded to with "where?" and easily refuting anything that comes up - concerts are loud, the outdoors are cold, bars are stale and have a shitty booze selection and slobbering drunk people - none of this has to be grounded in reality, but personally i'm sick of people that think their way is the only way. I swear I'm going to shoot the next person that gets mad at me when I smoke a cigarette, outside, and even step away when they walk directly in my path only to complain about the smell and "hazardous effects" of the
You can apply this argument to just about anything these days - the election, windows, mac, linux, air speed velocity of an unladed (european) swallow, etc. People are so polarized and mired in zealotry it makes me sick - either they have religion and need more, or they don't have religion and need some. Get over it. Some of us are trying to actually think our way through life and are sick of you idiots fucking it up.
"fun environemnt like drama club"
You sir, have converted me to your flock.
I bow before your awe-inspiring geekdom, and shutter at the thought of your play acting prowess.
My jealousy at the inventible poo-tang drama club brings you will haunt me until the ends of my days, or until I too can take up the mantle something equally as sexauly apealing, such as interpretive dance.
I would prefer hair down to her ass, not coming up out of it, but that is you, not me.
Yes, this is definately true. Maybe more so in Europe than in the USA.
I am a geek, admit it, but didnt have any issues with girls. I have dated many girls, some of which earned envy from my "normal" (ie.. non geeky) mates.
Geeks these days are from affluent families, drive nice cars, and often have better personalities, than normal people, and even take better pride in their appearance. Girls these days like that type of person.
I am a pure geek, driving a Merc, live in a nice house, married a sexy gal, who drives an SLK. As a couple we get stares from others.
So, the old stereotypes of geeks being a virgin at home with parents, stuck in a dark basement, with spots, is long gone. get with the times.
Have a nice day!
Looks dont matter bud...
I am chubby, only 5 foot 8..
its the attitude.. if you demonstrate that, you can get anyone.
Have a nice day!
I never quite got why people equate "fat" women with desperate women. Besides the fact that any woman that actually fits a 'healthy' weight model medically is actually "fat" by most men's terms... I mean, shit, Victorial era England wasn't as draconian as popular society is regarding women's weight these days.
:)
Personally, and this is just my experience, the women who are out working out every day and are constantly making lewd sexual references are the ones that paint "DESPERATE" all over their heads - what I find funny is when I was single and saw that sign, I thought "cool, free, easily attainable sex without strings attached - she'll keep asking for it no matter how I treat her". Most of these women were physically attractive, and beyond their shell of a personality, mostly vapid.
Sure, a fun fuck, but not a "keeper". And the closer you get to 30, the more often "keeper" is used in your vocabulary, if you're still single. I know too many unhappy guys in their 40's that have resorted to the desparity of hitting on "barely legal" girls that have nothing better to do than brag over SMS to their friends that they nailed a really old dude with a lot of dough and a mercedes. Trust me, these older men might be happy for that hour or so, but no man deals with poorly anticipated midlife crisis well - I've seen too many guys fuck this up.
Now, there's a lot of psych which tries to explain this but more or less it revolves around a lack of (percieved possibly) attention.
Most fat women, in my experience, are a heck of a lot stronger minded - often thinking for themselves, and while that may not sound attractive to you - get a girl that knows what she wants in the sack instead of some girl that's out to impress you and compare. I guarantee you'll be happier with the former, and older men will agree that older women, while also not looking like Victoria's Secret models, are also much more entertaining.
19 year old miniskirt hoes think the penis is a toy. 29 year old women know what that thing is for and know how it works, and know how to keep it coming back - that's all I'm saying. Married life does have it's advantages.
Sure, but ideal marriage material at 35 doesn't mean you'll be raking in the hot girls. Sure, the desperate losers in their mid-30s will be all over you, but why exactly are they desperate again? What you really want are all the hot girls in their mid-20s. And that comes after your geekiness rakes in the dough for you, and you're a multimillionaire at age 60. :)
In other news, lap DANCES increase sperm mobility.
calling them laptops is a misnomer, they are portables. True most of slashdot can't even see their laps let alone balance something on them. This is so a non-issue. And those who's fertility suffer for it is a plus to the rest of us.
Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
I grew up under high-tension linez Missing poll option! :)
Actually I was married in my mid-20's to a hot girl. And I'm a geek. It can be done.
They've been called 'notebooks' for several years, exactly because the heat can be prohibitive for laptop use, and the manufacturers don't want to invite more lawsuits.
If you're not living on the edge, you're just taking up space!
The troubles of infertility are pointless when nerds have problems getting "some" in the first place. ;)
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
When I was in HS there were hot chicks in drama club... but they were all, how shall I say, mentaly alarming. By that I mean "misunderstood, uniquie snowflakes", "dumb", "ate lead paint", or "need psychiatric evaluation". Plus they were surrounded by gay dudes.
I wear the ring.
I wonder when we will see this busted on myth busters :)
Being fat is unhealthy. There is something wrong with being unhealthy. ... Either they have a genetic problem, which means they need to take more extreme measures to be fit, or they are addicted to food
It seems you beleave in self controlled darwinism. Making decisions on what you think is the survival of the fittest. How fat a person is a combination of their genetics and their environment. Some enviroments are easier to controll you weight. Others are much more dificult. Why are Rich People usually thinner then Poor people it is because they have exta cash that they can spend to go to the gym. While poor people who work 6-5 barly have enough free time and daylight to exersize. Joggin in the middle of the night in some locations is not safe. But if you want to think about it in more of an evelutionary standpoint. If our curent grouth of population we will soon outpase the speed that we can produce food thus having a global famin. Now the people who are geneticly fat will have a better chance of surviving because there slower motabilism is more effective converting food to energy. While the thin people will probably starve first. Let nature decide who is fit for survival, and let yourself choose who you want to have children with, based on who you are attracted to.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
You don't pay someone to make love to you, you pay someone to have sex with you. There is a difference.
- No I have never paid for it.
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Well, I wouldn't know about drama club from first hand experience. I was in the Ham Radio Club and the Automotive Club (where we rebuilt engines). However I had outside extracurricular activies where I met girls.
Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
Now, the above are facts so do not mod me down. In my home country, these is [almost] no market for Viagra and the like.
This Article says Viagra costs about $10 per pill. I'm sure that has more to do with a poor viagra market then any natural virility on some continents. Escpecially since the AIDS epidemic would make living to be old enough to need Viagra something of a problem.
This also seems a bit of an immature poster. Pen*s? Tool? "down there"? Please just say what you are talking about. If you can't say penis, scrotum, dick, balls or whatever then you probably don't have anything interesting to say on the subject.
Im a geek, thats hazzardous to my fertility, not the fact that Im using a laptop!
Why UNIX?
I thought it was something a little over 99%, meaning a few people out of every thousand may get pregnant. Does that take into consideration people who don't use it properly (take it exactly at the same time every single day), or is that percentage only people who use it properly?
Statisctically, does a 99% effective rate mean mean that one out of every 100 times you have intercourse a woman will become pregnant? I know of plenty of women who use the pill and have never become pregnant over many years.
I guess slashdot might be the wrong place for these questions.... now if you'll excuse me I need to go cool off. My scrotum is on fire.
Being fat acts as thermal insulation therby protecting scrotum temperatures.
Also my lap is a good 10 inches( add a few more for gut overhang) from my scrotum, so unless I was trying to hump a laptop or something, they would never really be affected buy it's heat.
I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso
A new study also suggests that keeping your Jedi light sabre in your pocket while searching for your keys may also be hazardous to your fertility.
"Guess laptops should get a namechange soon... before our fertility does." Before our fertility gets a name change? Is this a Babelfish translation?
"Don't waste your time or time will waste you" -MUSE
Napoleon Dynamite: Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills. You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills...
Who said,
"Dating a fat chick is like riding a moped. It's a lot of fun until your friends see you doing it."
My ex was bullimic when I met her - luckily I helped her get better and feel better about herself. She now has a perfect body, with curves where there should be curves, great physical fitness (she's been national kayak champ once), and she is absolutely gorgeus.
When I met her, she had the ideal body if you believe televisions.
I, for one, don't.
Carbs aren't necessarily bad for you. Your body needs carbs, just not too many of them. In my opinion, it's sugars that make people fat.
Both of my grandparents are overweight. My grandfather isn't wide, but has a monster pot belly. My grandmother is wide, somewhere around 250lbs. This obesity is certainly not genetic as my mother and all her 5' tall sisters can barely keep their weight over 100. It's mostly caused by the diet. My grandmother and grandfather eat like hogs, and every meal is loaded with butter and sugar. She has a ton of health problems for which she takes an assortment of daily pills.
My other grandmother is 72 years old and in excellent shape. She walks 3-5 miles a day and has no health problems whatsoever. She regularly gets outside for her daily walks and eats mostly good food, with the exception of ice cream which I just found out is an addiction that runs in the family.
How did an article about burning scrotums lead to discussions about fat people?
What the other guy said. There's a difference between sex and making love.
Like anyone with a laptop needs more than read only access to the world.
:-D
Face it... if your geeking it up long enough for your CPU to kill your sperm... most likely because you don't need the sperm.
I prefer to just consider it birth control.... Look at pr0n in Mp4 format before having sex. Your CPU spikes a bit, causing more heat, killing sperm. Your sperm dies, your "in the mood"...
life is good.
Being as thin as a stick is bad too, then again humans weren't meant to be on that side of the extreme either.
Keep the paunch off, and minimize the love-handles, and you should be pretty normal. There is no requirement to be toned or really muscular... Just don't be anorexic or obese. It's not good for you.
And make sure that you watch what your children put in their mouths... childhood obesity has been on the rise since the FDA came out with the food pyramid.
You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.
If we're talking about the USA then the "thin as a stick being desirable" excuse is BS. US Americans are bordering on obesity, no ifs ands or buts about it.
The meme police, They live inside of my head
Do you want to know what the latest fashions are? Go read Maxim and FHM. If you're not a clone of those dork models in the fashion section, then you have no sense of style.
Agreed on the agenda for physical activity, appearance, and the listening.
In my case, I started training in martial arts when I was a kid because I wanted to, not because I wanted to impress people. It just felt right. The added side effect of feeling comfortable in almost any situation was just a bonus (and from what the girls and women I have know say, that is very attractive. The swords, aparently, also didn't hurt.). Not having to get into fights in high school after everyone heard about the one I was in my freshman year was just icing on the cake.
As far as the appearance went, I usually went for what my ex refered to as "cutely frumpled". I tended to dress pretty well, but didn't agonize over every strand of hair. I liked to look decent, but I also wanted to be comfortable.
Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
Interesting. When I'm too fatigued, too busy, or too injured to exercise I eat less. It really is a simple equation. I'm cursed with a slow metabolism but still manage to maintain or lose weight when I pay attention to how much calories I'm consuming.
The meme police, They live inside of my head
Depends. I didn't date in high school, but I really think that it was a *me* thing, and not a result of people hating my geekiness. College was almost the same thing, but I managed to do away with the egotistical pride.
The problems presented in high school are interesting. Everything is blown out of proportion, mostly due to the pubescent state of all of the kids. High school is when sex is always on your mind, and you're shoved into a building with loads of like-minded kids.
The geeks usually have self-esteem problems, which manifest themselves in one of two ways: reclusiveness and obnoxiousness. The reclusive ones are shy, don't talk, and generally look for other reclusive geeks. The obnoxious ones never think highly of themselves, and so have to talk themselves up to their peers... so that they can convince themselves that they are ok. Both of these are detrimental to picking up women.
Things even out after college. Not only has the hormone level evened out, but there is a drastic increase in responsibility. The jocks that I knew from high school all turned into plumbers, electricians, carpenters, construction workers, or firemen. It's sometimes satisfying to compare your successes to theirs by then, but to be honest, it's more than likely that you just don't care about it anymore. That's when you know that you're ripe for a woman.
You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.
I don't excercise because I'm a lazy bastard. I guess you could count that as any of the above depending on how you want to think of it. However, any situtation in which you can't excercise (or just plain can't be bothered, in my case), it's just a matter of taking care of what you eat. I haven't excercised since middle school (and that was mostly trying to get out of trashcans people stuffed me into), but I still maintain a weight of 140 lbs. (5' 9") by paying only moderate attention to what I eat.
wow, you created an account just to send me a message? Thanks!
Now get back to sucking my dick, woman.
#!/
I didn't used to be that outgoing until I started getting dragged out by a couple of girls that I knew in jr high.
I completely understand grinning like an idiot on annoying the football coach. The fact that I chose to help build a drama club was just too much for them after they were rejected, I think...
I also agree with the wannabe geeks. I grew up being a science geek (chem and archeology, actually), started in on computers at about age 10 when I got tossed into the talented and gifted section, got my first computer with a hard drive at 14 (had one before that, but this was the first one I ever had with a hard drive), and modded the living hell out of it over the next few years because I couldn't afford to buy a new one.
As far as the army jacket goes, didn't do that. I was goth, though. Still am.
I was a geek a long time before I was outgoing. Now I'm both and rather enjoy it at times.
Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
You only use 2% of your DNA
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Those percentages usually come from a study in which hundreds of young married couples had sex at their regular frequency for a year while using the method in question. 99% of the couples using oral birth control did not conceive a child in that year. (I don't have the study with me...we learned about it in high school health class.) The methods may actually be more reliable than the study would lead us to believe. Married couples have less of an incentive to prevent a child since most young couples wouldn't mind having a kid, so they may have been less strict about its use.
HI, MY NAME IS ISAAC.
Cock and penis would get a -1 troll/offtopic attached to it
...be able to make your ball-sacks to escape down to the floor.
It's also the reason why the ball-sacks...
And ball-sacks is the correct term? I thought it was scrotum? I guess you should get modded-down as well.
Lighten up a little bit!
I do have the beer belly, but last I checked testical hang down. not up. So there is the width of my leg about 10 inches from the lap to the seat bottom where the jewels rest.
I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso
you're dead on. i took the same poll with a slightly higher sample (three of us here) and you got it, 100%
HA! Conveniently my laptop came with a lead cup to protect from radiation and heat too.
I've been using my laptop, an overheating Thinkpad T23 (its melted the black rubber from the bottom of my laptop 3 times, thank you IBM extended warrantee!) for 4-5 years now, every day, for about 20 hours a day... on my lap. It has onboard wireless, and I also keep a Bluetooth CF card in the pcmcia slot. I have 3 Linksys WRTs, all overclocked in power sitting about 15' away from me (one floor down).
We just had our first daughter 5 months ago, healthy, happy, and with all limbs, fingers, and toes intact.
This article is completly farsical... unless it takes 20 years of laptop-on-lap power to really do any damage.
Given the amount of extra RF going on around here (5.8Ghz phones, wireless headphones, 3x2.4Ghz WRTs, overheating laptop), I'm surprised I haven't grown a third arm.
ive been after an excuse to get a laptop for ages and here it is
It was:
No, I DON'T want a laptop powered by a Farnsworth Fusor.
Fortunately, mere heat is temporary, unless it's very excessive.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
natural selection at its "best."
I think you just admitted to being in drama club. You can turn your badge in at the door.
Jeremy Logan's Website.
It isn't sugar (or carbs, or fat, or protein, or cellulose, or anything else) that makes you fat, it's consuming calories faster than you expend them.
"They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
I find laptops pretty useless, you're not even supposed to use it on your lap because it gets too hot anyway and jogging the harddrive isnt a great idea. As a portable desktop they are ok, except track-pads are the most unusable peice of shit i've ever seen - i can master accurate shooting on a PS2 controller, but ive yet to actually use a track pad without going insane. So you need a mouse. I consider keyboards as consumables, i buy a cheap one every few months and abuse it and my cheap keyboards always feel fine. Laptop keyboards are cramped and shitty. Changing them isnt easy or cheap, nore is tipping out the usual crap that gets in it, and you're afraid to bash it too much because the whole thing seems to delicate. Which brings me to my last point - you can't actually naturally use something unless you feel you can be careless and abusive. I need to be able to atleast have a cup of coffee next to something without having to worry about it falling over and destroying something expensive. My phone on the other hand has been dropped and cracked so many times its like a wallet, im not scared of breaking it, same with my old pocket PC, so i can use these things without some insane degree of safety - everytime i use my laptop (its from work) i feel i need to be extra careful and make sure all cups are outside a 4 foot radius and if i move it there must be total concentration as i carefully check every step i take. Its not something you can use unless you can abuse it. And just to make this on topic - its not something you can use unless you can put it on your lap without worrying about your tackle.
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That's his point. Didn't you see his "hint"?
Who were these researchers who had the brilliant idea to start sticking thermometers *down there*?
I've been using various laptops on my lap for a long time. My wife and I were planning on having kids in a year or two, but last December she got an infection and was told to stop her birth control pills. We only had unprotected sex once during the time she was off her pills.
:-O
I know have a 3-month old daughter.
A little earlier than we were planning, but I wouldn't trade her for anything.
Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com."
The purpose of that site was not known.
Heat? That's it? Too bad we can't stack two or three on there. No more birth control or rubbers! Who uses a laptop on their lap, anyway? I use knees, or 95% of the time tables. I don't see how the scrotum would react to this any different than temprature changes in the climate. If it's 120 outside, they just receed into your body to reach the right temprature. You know, Pool syndrome. If your laptop's is the variable that influences temprature, why would anything different happen?
Our problem is that the smart and educated people aren't having enough children.
No No No, you have it all wrong. The problem is, smart and educated people aren't eating enough poor, dumb babies.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
It's been a while since I studied this at university, but as I understand heat changes of this magnatude (also caused by variations in clothing like boxers or breifs) can damage sperm production, but there is no permanent damage. This sounds like som awfully sensational reporting.
There problem solved,
;~)
My TC1100 has the cpu vent on the screen itself, so the keyboard dosen't generate any heat and merly reflects it back.
Plus all the new Intel ULV chips, some of them don't even use active cooling anymore, but its nothing worse than taking a warm bath?
So is that the new health hazard, Hot water Baths has shown to reduce fetility, both too much and too Little
eh, I say they have these nifty little things you can put under your laptop that can help with the heating issues... also i dont recomend newer high powered laptops, leave that to us ladies :P
"But i loveded you PIGGY I LOVEDED YOU!!!!!" *Gir*
yer won't be needin it.
If my call is important, why am I talking to a recording?
Laptop Desk
The body does not digest cellulose, nor can it synthesise protein, which is why eating protein is necessary.
One thing, though: Sugar IS carbohydrate. Glucose is C6H12O6 (sorry for the lack of subscripting) I.E. Carbon (carb) Hydrogen (hydr) and Oxygen (ate is the ending for xxx+some oxygen)
There are different forms of sugar, but all sugar - sucrose, maltose, lactose, glucose, fructose et al, are all carbohydrates. Freely interchangeable. The thing about sugars is that they're pure forms of carbohydrate - bread has sugar, plus other bits and pieces like fibre, and it is digested sugar (glucose) that is used for energy stored - either as glycogen or fat. Therefore, because sugar has such a high carbohydrate content, it IS more fattening than, say bread. But not by calorie content, as you say.
The only thing is that certain things are a) higher in calorie density and b) easier to keep in their current form than synthesize into something else. Proteins don't become calories, I believe.
im in ur
Yes, that is true, but do you know how many crappy guys the average girl went through in high school and college to find out that the nice geeky guy that always admired them was worth something, and that they have screwed up royally? Usually by then, they have 3 kids from different fathers. Single moms love me, but they learned a little too late. it is now time for their punishment... Rejected! However, it is true, being a nice geek definitely pays off in the end when you find the "patient" girls.
Thank you. Being geek doesn't have to mean looking and acting like one. I struggle to understand why other geeks fail to see this. I think a lot of them lack self-confidence and are overweight, which, as another poster on here said, there is something wrong with.
Just because we spend most of our time in front of a monitor, doesn't mean we have to look and act like it. Computers are cool now. So is intelligence. Chicks dig intelligence. Therefore, we already have an advantage. So have some confidence, go out, and get a girlfriend.
They exist, I promise.
or they are addicted to food
Food is now an addiction? People used to joke about that. Quitting the food or air addiction used to be a euphemism for death.
Does everything that people like to do, and don't want to stop doing now considered an addiction? This addiciton concept has just gone too far. Addiction used to involve tolerance, withdrawl, etc. Now it's just a convienent word to throw out whenever people don't want to stop a behaviour that's deemed "bad".
Obviously being overweight in unhealthy. Apparently being unhealthy is now wrong, bad, or immoral. You never made that implication, but the concepts are closely tied together. If someone wants to live an unhealthy lifestyle, no one else should judge them wrongly for it. There's nothing "wrong" with being unhealthy, it's just a personal choice people make every day. This is the same kind of thinking that drives some people toward putting extra taxes on "sin food" that's high in fat/calories/whatever.
AccountKiller
Carbohydrates are addictive because of the insulin cycle, which goes something like this: You eat carbohydrates and your pancreas produces insulin which is involved in (regulates?) the process of converting carbohydrates to glucose. Glucose is not only the fuel upon which we run, but also the chemical which tells our brain that we are full. Relatively recent studies indicate that over time your brain becomes resistant to glucose and it takes more glucose, thus more carbs to feel full. Note the job of your pancreas, which gets harder as you eat more carbohydrates, especially ready carbs like sugar and white flour - which are nearly the same thing once you have ingested them.
In other words, eating foods with high carbohydrate content is addictive and leads to diabetes. Arguably if you are very athletic you can consume large quantities of carbohydrates but it is always a mistake to consume them all at once. You should spread consumption of carbohydrates out among your day.
It's bad for you. To me that's reason enough to campaign against it. It raises the cost of health care because we all have to pay for the fat ones. Unless you pay for your medical care out of pocket, of course, but we're talking about social services and health insurance here. One or the other of them describe the majority of Americans, certainly. If it were entirely the fault of the fat people that they're fat, then it would be reasonable to penalize them for it, but the fact is that the very kinds of foods which are most unhealthy are the most aggressively marketed.
As I believe I have shown above, it is not a personal choice. It affects all of us, and for that reason I think we should all band together to try to wipe out obesity, provided we can do it without creating worse problems.
As for sin tax on junk food, it makes perfect sense to me. We tax cigarettes to help pay for the financial impact on the nation, and to provide cigarette education. We tax alcohol along the same lines. Why not tax food which has no real nutritional value but which makes you fat which degrades your quality of life and causes you health problems? Tax the living shit out of twinkies, little debbie snack cakes, potato chips, and so on. Obesity is a national health problem, and it needs to be addressed, just like cancer or AIDS. It is a state of unhealth that affects us all, and unless someone consciously chooses to be obese, they should not have to suffer with it. Lying to yourself and telling yourself it's okay to be fat just because someone will still find you attractive if they, too, have little disregard for health, is like not getting a cancer treated because some people might have a melanoma fetish.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Maybe I should go back to *nix.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
dude, I AM in my mid 20s AND married to a hot girl. I tells ya, some women just realise.
all you are, is all you are, i'm so sorry for you.
Body mass is an extremely complex problem which is frequently equated in the mass media with moral failure (lazy & gluttonous).
Acceptable community standards for body mass have declined while the average body mass ratio has increased. Many of the 'diseases' associated with being overweight are now being attributed to serial dieting.
Weight is not the problem, fitness is the problem. Fit fat people still have a better life expectancy than thin unfit people; and don't kid yourself that you can't be fat and fit. Western cultures are living increasingly sedentary lives, we give our children Playstations rather than let them play in the streets, we drive instead of walk. We need to collectively get up from our desks and lounge chairs and start moving around. Turn off the TV or your computer and take the dog for a walk.
Incidental exercise is steadily being eliminated from our lives, but few of us are able to find the time to explicitly exercise.
Fat people (especially fat chicks) are often publically discriminated against and derided - why would you go to the gym when you are treated like you might be contagious?
As for 'fat chicks' getting pregnant; current studies suggest that dieting during pregnancy increases the possibility that your children will be fat as it triggers the starvation gene in the womb. Carrying extra weight during pregnancy certainly increases the chances of maternal diabetes, but personally at a BMI of around 32 (clinically obese) my doctor is more worried about the fact that I need to increase my folate and iron intake than lose weight.
Sara
Designer, Gamer, Macgrrl in an XP World
Two unidentified brands of Pentium 4 laptops were used at random in the study.
Would the temperature have risen less with a less power hungry processor than a P4? Given that a P4 laptop can double as a toasted sandwich maker, I think it would be a possibility.
meh
The funny thing I have discovered about women is that there is nothing more attractive than a guy who is already taken. I don't understand this, but I think it may have something to do with demonstratig committment and the ability to hold down a relationship.
Since I got engaged I've had to cultivate a series of disgusting personal habits to try to combat this.
meh
Why no-one seems to worry about leaky and exploding batteries?
I doubt that we will ever figure out - and I suspect that even if we did figure out we couldn't do much about it
Thinking for yourself is great. However, just thinking things though without really living, taking chances, and following your heart on occasion leads to a rather empty life in my opinion. Life is more than just books and cerebral activities.
Life can't just be thought through. It also has to be felt and experienced. Does it occasionally hurt? yes. Is it occasionally frightening? oh yeah. Is it worth it? I think so...
Where you go with it and what you do is up to you. The point is that life is about more than just seeing the downside to the rest of the world as an excuse to not participate.
To quote a friend of mine talking about his now s/o who used to basically lock herself away in order to "think her way through life" - "You're drawing breath, but you aren't really alive."
Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
In Soviet Russia, Fertility is hazardous to you!
- In Soviet Korea, only old people loose all their bases to Natalie Portman's petrified hot grits overlords.
I'm banging a fat chick at the moment and I love it.
:) on the second pillow. And this guy is "at the moment banging" her and typing on the keyboard his Slashdot post ..... Wow, that's the most impressive multi-tasking I've ever heard about. :-)
Everybody get the picture??? Fat girlfriend in bed, laptop next to her head (otherwise it would hurt the fertility
Browsers shouldn't have a back button!! It's all about going forward...
On the other hand, TVs typically aren't strapped to one's crotch... unless you're into that sort of thing?
Never mind, I don't want to know.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
At home at the desk or just lounging around I prefer thin, loose shorts or pants made of satin or nylon. Infringing on feminine territory, and maybe that's part of the fun, but mostly it is just really comfortable.
other functionality suggests the ability to get and maintain an erection, or the ability to achieve orgasm. I have always assumed that there was no relationship between these issues and low sperm count due to sitting in chairs. Maybe they correlate on hormone levels, or red blood cell count, and people get confused? Some cyclists claim long rides make their genitals numb and unresponsive, but chairs?
if you're 18 and look at this as a good thing, think about where you want to be in 10 years, if you can truly think that far ahead - if children are on the agenda, be smart and take care.
I can agree with taking care in the sense of don't fall off you bicycle/skateboard/skis and injure your genitals, and don't get the clap, but again, sitting all day when you are 21 and single should not result in any permanent loss of potency even after ten years. Am I wrong?
Gary Dunn
Open Slate Project
Love the name
Writers imply. Readers infer.
So... you lift weights because you're insecure, and you need to brag? That's bad. Lift them for health, make it a personal thing. You'll probably feel better for it.
With undescended testicles there is no reason to fear laptops - body heat does the trick just fine:-).
I wonder, is there is any possibility that radiation from wireless networking could cause a health problem?
Carbohydrates are addictive because of the insulin cycle, which goes something like this:
You've been listening to the south beach/Atkins people. Shame on you. According to these geniuses the food we've been eating for most of our calories for.. oh a few thousand years is "addictive" and makes people fat. That's why we see so many fat people in China, where white rice is the staple food. That's why there was an epedemic of obesity in Ireland when potatoes were the staple food. What a load of nonsense. Carbs aren't new. Mass obesity in this country (and other western countries) is.
If you want to blame someone blame the food industry and the culture. The food industry produces TOO MUCH food, so they make large portions to justify the price (which many people like). We also have a screwed up view of wasting food, so people don't like to leave an empty plate. Couple that with the "on the go" lifestyle many people lead where they don't cook and eat overly large (value argument again) pre-made processed foods and it's easy to see what the problem is.
It's bad for you. To me that's reason enough to campaign against it. It raises the cost of health care because we all have to pay for the fat ones. Unless you pay for your medical care out of pocket, of course, but we're talking about social services and health insurance here.
Are we going to penalize anyone who doesn't conform to the commonly accepted "healthy lifestyle" because of some sort of fairness argument? The fairness arguement can go a long way...Please fill out this 150 page form with your medical history, your parents medical history, what all your grandparents died of, and don't forget to submit your DNA sample for testing. We'll the calculate your health insurance rate based on all those factors. Ooops.. turns out you're pre-disposed to diabetes.. that'll be $2000 a month please. Oh you've been fired from your job because of excessive health care costs? Sorry buddy, early grave for you.
As I believe I have shown above, it is not a personal choice. It affects all of us
With that kind of logic everything effects us all and there's no personal choices. Sin taxes on
AccountKiller
I agree with you and disagree with you.
Given the choice, most fat people wouldn't be fat, all in all it sucks big time.
Certainly part of the problem is the steady increase in available foods with 'empty' calories, food is not the only part of the problem and I REALLY wish people would get the stereotype of "fat people are gluttons" out of their heads.
The bigger problem is activity levels for calorific intake, and that some people have more efficient metabolisms than others. The modern western world has virtually eliminated incidental exercise. If you've been blessed with a high metabolism then perhaps it won't have effected you quite so much, but for most of us it has led to an increase in average weight.
Sara
Designer, Gamer, Macgrrl in an XP World
Dear god, you'd think slashdot of all places you could get away from this crap.
You must be new here.
Writhe your naked ass to the mindless groove.
.. from The Register
Laptops go on sperm killing rampage
Screw you all! I'm off to the pub
Let me guess, with her perfect new body, she went and found some football playing hunk to date instead ;)
It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
As a "single-again" for a few years now, I can use that!
Thanks
Lap dances for geeks hurts fertility!
... accidents :)
Because of eehhm
So now laptop and lapdance is bad for you, damn this cruel world!
-- Make software not war
But... what about a beowulf cluster of people thinking for themselves?
It's tired.
Actually I haven't lifted weights for almost 10 years, but it was more of a health thing, although anyone who "power lifts" will tell you that doing that is the most unhealthy thing you can do for your body.
What I was noting was a side effect, which was a welcome one at the time. You can twist it however you want, however.
Most olympic weight lifters are heavy smokers and shoot for overweight as the momentum of their girth can actually help increase maxes.
Nope, not too short. Using a laptop on my lap for more than 10 minutes gives me back and wrist pain because I'm hunched over it so much.
I think most laptops can be replaced with a decent vpn client and something like vnc. If your job thinks you should have a $1800 laptop, they could probably spring to give you a home workstation with internet and vpn access. That would probably save a few bucks everytime someone drops a laptop. It doesn't even have to be a good workstation. It could even be an old win98 decommissioned workstation. The licenses and hardware are probably just sitting around in a warehouse somewhere collecting dust (depreciating).
The wget statement is pretty much the same as HEAD. Mine requires perl and some perl modules though. I just like the name of the command line utility. huh..huh....heh...he said....head...
Why read the article when I can just make up a snap judgement?
Nah, she found some other problems to focus on and broke up with me...
(Plus, she hates jocks more than I do...)
"I'm banging a fat chick at the moment and I love it."
:) on the second pillow. And this guy is "at the moment banging" her and typing on the keyboard his Slashdot post ..... Wow, that's the most impressive multi-tasking I've ever heard about. :-)
Everybody get the picture??? Fat girlfriend in bed, laptop next to her head (otherwise it would hurt the fertility
When you've got a horny girlfriend and a Slashdot addiction you've gotta improvise a bit.
#!/
Are we going to penalize anyone who doesn't conform to the commonly accepted "healthy lifestyle" because of some sort of fairness argument?
You must not have read the part that went like this:
We create a culture that essentially encourages people to be fat. Telling people that it's okay to be fat is part of this, but the advertising is a more serious problem, because it has been proven that advertising works, and makes people buy shit that they would never buy otherwise, even if confronted with it in the store. I'm not in favor of penalizing people for fatness, but I am willing to penalize the process of getting fat by (for example) instituting sin taxes on snack foods.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I agree wholeheartedly that our ability to be sedentary is not working out as well as the technologists would have had it back in the fifties. All those pastel pictures of slender Americans dressed in demure dresses and their square, black suits, mooning over the latest kitchen appliance or stepping into their flying car for the trip to the office depicted the ideal future, but instead the majority of Americans are not doing all that well financially and it's still the same old (great but very dirty) America. People don't have the time or the energy to get out and exercise for themselves, they're not vacationing around the world and taking rafting trips, they're working two jobs to make the rent and feed their family. And of course, the cheapest food is worst for you. In terms of caloric density, candy bars are a more cost-effective source of food than, say, broccoli.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The only thing that separates one carb from another as far as your body is concerned is how rapidly it can be converted to glucose. The more "processed" it is, or at a glance the whiter it is, the more easily it is converted. This is a gross oversimplification since the texture means more than the color. Anyway, AFAIK the easiest carbohydrate to convert is sucrose, although there is no measurable difference between one sugar and another. Only a short distance away you will find foods made with a lot of refined flour, especially white bread. It only takes a short while longer for your body to convert wonder bread to glucose than it takes it to convert white sugar.
Your body doesn't need any carbohydrates. It is the most efficient (and more or less only) source of rapid energy. However, efficient isn't necessarily good, because most of the time we're not working at our top efficiency. Most people are not nearly active enough to eat based on the food pyramid; they should be reducing their carbohydrate intake significantly. There's no need to make up the difference, because the whole point is that they should be consuming less calories. Reducing carb intake is the quickest way to do this, and you could even do it in part without bothering anyone by just taking all the damn sugar out of everything that doesn't need it.
I bet when you woke up this (that) morning, you didn't think that a discussion that began with nutsacks would end with you having a conversation with a guy named drinkypoo about obesity in America.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
We tax tobacco products and people continue to use them. We crack down on drug addicts and they continue to steal and murder so they can get their fix. I can't wait for the day when obese people have to kill to get money for their twinkies.
Tobacco taxes and illegalization of drugs are not remotely the same thing.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
They're exactly the same thing. Tobacco is bad for you, makes you feel good. Weed, not quite so bad for you (but still pretty bad, especially when smoked), and makes you feel a bit better.
You don't go to jail for smoking cigarettes- not because they're better for you, or you're more likely to commit crimes on weed, but because tobacco makes lousy rope. Of course this is irelevant now, but back in the days, it wasn't. It's just so ingrained into society that tobacco's ok (comparitively) and only criminals smoke weed.
Send lawyers, guns, and money!
You go to jail for smoking weed because pot makes plastic (unlike tobacco) and not because it makes rope. Also, because the government used it to punish blacks and hispanics for not being white and they don't like to appear inconsistent.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
At least I'm not an Anonymous Coward
Sara
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