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A Strange Streak Imaged in Australia

Koyaanisqatsi writes "Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day presents a challenge worthy of a large audience: as it says, "Meteor experts don't think it's a meteor. Atmospheric scientists don't think it's lightning". An intriguing dark streak and bright flash that defies explanation showed up on some cloud monitoring pictures. The forumsetup to discuss it is currently hosed, so perhaps fellow slashdotters can shed some light over the mystery?"

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  1. It looks like... by Donny+Smith · · Score: 0

    someone drooling icecream over his freshly made photograph!

    1. Re:It looks like... by 3eyedlie · · Score: 0

      Where exactly is the "bright flash" in the photograph?

    2. Re:It looks like... by LDoggg_ · · Score: 1

      At the bottom of the streak. Looks like something got hit. Maybe the street light as another poster pointed out?

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    3. Re:It looks like... by fubar1971 · · Score: 1

      ...the escape pod the R2D2 and C3P0 used to escape the evil Empire with Princess Lea's plea for help.

      I'm coming Princess!!!!!

    4. Re:It looks like... by Zorilla · · Score: 0, Troll

      someone drooling icecream over his freshly made photograph!

      Dr. Nick Riviera: And this smudge that looks like my fingerprint? Noooo, that's trauma!

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    5. Re:It looks like... by 3eyedlie · · Score: 0

      Heh, I assumed since it was at the top of the lamp post that it was the street light. Am i missing something here?

    6. Re:It looks like... by LnxAddct · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am in no way an expert at this stuff, but judgin from the color, streak, projectory, and location (Australia), it look to me like a burning hot piece of some very durable metal that was falling through the atmosphere. A lost satellite best fits that description.
      Regards,
      Steve

    7. Re:It looks like... by strider5 · · Score: 0

      I'd like to see you prove it wasn't Heisenberg's cat =)

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    8. Re:It looks like... by cHiphead · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Intel SAT 7, perhaps?

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    9. Re:It looks like... by pbrammer · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's even in the same plane as the street lamp. I think it's behind the lamp and in the water.

    10. Re:It looks like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm coming Princess!!!!!" I am so hard right now

    11. Re:It looks like... by PalmKiller · · Score: 1

      I am thinking you meant to say trajectory rather than projectory

    12. Re:It looks like... by Hrdina · · Score: 1

      Ah, but Intelsat IA-7 was not as dead as originally thought.

    13. Re:It looks like... by JimFromJersey · · Score: 1

      Some bored e-3 at NORAD decided to see if he could bull's-eye a seagull with a "smart-pellet" from LEO. Looks like he could.

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    14. Re:It looks like... by LnxAddct · · Score: 1

      heh wow thanks for pointing that out. Now I'll go hide ;)
      Regards,
      Steve

    15. Re:It looks like... by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      I think you mean Schroedinger's Cat. Heisenberg was a dog man, he couldn't withstand the uncertainty of the feline personality.

    16. Re:It looks like... by virgil_attack · · Score: 1

      If he couldn't stand the uncertainty of a cat, why did he come up with a whole principle about it?

  2. It's old news... by CodeWanker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    but when this pic surfaced the first time, people speculated that the flat trajectory meant it had to be a tiny meteorite, with the flash resulting from the rock hitting a street light. a 1 in a billion photo, I imagine.

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    1. Re:It's old news... by Freexe · · Score: 0

      Dude, its a one in a billion chance of it happening. More like a one in a goolplex chance of someone catching it on camera

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    2. Re:It's old news... by eggoeater · · Score: 1

      The flash is exactly aligned with the top of that pole or light. Could it be the sun reflecting off of glass or copper at the top of the pole? Not sure if that could explain the line though.

    3. Re:It's old news... by gUmbi · · Score: 1

      In the caption below the photograph they say that the streetlight has been inspected and no damage was found.

    4. Re:It's old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the Australian "street light" air defense system.

    5. Re:It's old news... by CyberGarp · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've got a photo at home of a statue of Sophia. The camera caught a lens flare off the top of her head going towards heaven. I thought it was a wonderful lens effect I couldn't have made if I tried. I think it's either an unusual lens flare, or as another poster mentioned, an insect flying near the lens out of the focal range. Shawn

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    6. Re:It's old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Dude, there are lots of good reasons for sigs. Announcing to slashdot that you're interested in anal kinks with asians is not one of them.

    7. Re:It's old news... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      It looked more like to me whatever it was landed in the water. Not the street light. It is tough to tell. But it could be the crappy monitor I am using right now but it seems there is a very slight arc to the line. Plus there is the streak in the water too.

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    8. Re:It's old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I must say it looks like an insect trail to me, too. I've had similar (including really beautiful refractions through insect wings) on pictures I've taken before.

      If it was some kind of meteorite, then wouldn't the streetlamp show some signs of impact damage?

    9. Re:It's old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those darned aborigines lit another spiritual bonfire is all.

    10. Re:It's old news... by fatphil · · Score: 1

      There's *nothing* noticably different about the poles in the images - I did some some before/after differences of those photos (and cranked up the gamma).

      PLEASE MIRROR, don't hose me too!

      http://62.236.152.54/images/before-at-sm.jpg
      ht tp://62.236.152.54/images/before-after-sm.jpg
      htt p://62.235.152.54/images/at-after-sm.jpg

      Phil

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    11. Re:It's old news... by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 1

      Well, the chances are one in one if that's what the image actually depicts. Just because something is improbable, doesn't mean it can't happen.

    12. Re:It's old news... by Freexe · · Score: 1

      something happening doesn't change the chance of it happening

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    13. Re:It's old news... by TumbleCow · · Score: 1

      Well.. ok: (dutch mirror) http://vi-pas.nl/~scotty/before-after-sm.jpg http://vi-pas.nl/~scotty/before-at-sm.jpg Somehow wasn't able to mirror the third one. Parent's server just went down?

    14. Re:It's old news... by deglr6328 · · Score: 1

      This theory does not satisfy me. Let's assume it IS a meteorite hitting a lamp post. In order for it to produce a flash that size and not an earth shattering explosion it could only be like grain of sand size or a tiny pea size at the absolute largest. That is, if we are to assume the "trail" is actually a smoke trail. So how is this possible? Something the size of a pea travelling at hundreds of miles per second simply dosen't have the knietic energy to sustain that speed (a speed necessary to create a substantial smoke trail) considering the friction caused by travelling through the thick lower atmosphere (or thin upper atmosphere for that matter!) for more than a few thousand feet (a mile at most?) I'd estimate. Furthermore, in a long exposure like this one where the whole traversal of the the meteor trail is caught within the exposure, the trail should appear BRIGHT (from the glowing hot meteor or the hot plasma in the bow shockwave in front of the meteor itself) not dark as it does in the picture. The only way a meteor trail appears dark is if an image is taken after it passes and the resulting smoke trail attenuates background light(the famous 1972 fireball over Wyoming has a bright tail because it is so high in the atmosphere it is reflecting more sunlight back to the earth's surface than it is absorbing from behind the trail. 'cause it's so high up). So the only way I can see for this to actually be a meteor would be if the meteor started out with JUST EXACTLY enough mass and velocity when it entered the atmosphere to ablate precisely enough material so that it was only pebble sized and still be travelling hypersonically (BTW did he even hear a sonic boom? I think you'd remember that.) in it's last few thousand feet as it plunged toward the lamp post AND he would have had to open the shutter at the exact instant the meteorite struck the post to create the effect seen. We're talking like plus or minus nanoseconds here. I can't possibly imagine the odds of all these things happening just right to create the effect seen. So, would it not be possible that what we're seeing is simply a blown light bulb? It appears that the picture was taken at dusk and other lights on the dock have come on. We all know that when a lightbulb blows it produces a bright flash of light...could it be that by some strange atmospheric effect this would produce a dark streak where the light flash was shadowed by the lamp housing?

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    15. Re:It's old news... by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > BTW did he even hear a sonic boom?

      Did you even read the article? The picture was taken by an automated camera. He wasn't there.

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    16. Re:It's old news... by rzbx · · Score: 1

      Actually, there is something that sounds similar to your theory. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2502755.stm

      This link was posted earlier http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=131958 &cid=11020106

      From all the posts I've seen, the quark matter strike is the most likely answer from my point-of-view. Most speak of the post, but few of the water (possible it hit water, but appears it didn't). Also, is it not possible a flash can occur and not damage a post? So many have just assumed that a flash MUST damage that post. Then again, it could still be anything. It is quite hard to tell; too many possibilities.

      To see if the quark matter strike theory is correct, then one would need to figure out how quark matter would effect the atmosphere, water, metal objects (pole), electricity, etc.

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    17. Re:It's old news... by mobobuff · · Score: 1

      About the issue of whether it made a sound or not. If you line up and tab through the images in sequence, you can see a guy get out of his car and look towards the general direction of the "splashdown" or "pole striking". It's in the third quadrant of the shots, a little yellow car. The man gets out in the 3rd frame. Now judging by the movements of the tug boat, the speed boat, and the reaction time taken by a man in a hurry to get out of a car. I'd say there's approximately 2 seconds between each frame.

      Also the trail behind the object is straight. Almost perfectly straight for all of its appearance in the image.

      Another thing to keep in mind, the engines of boats can often create a nice puff of white smoke upon ignition. And that is a dock.

    18. Re:It's old news... by DrMatt · · Score: 1

      I think it's a small explosion right near the lamp, probably a wire shorting out on a power line nearby. The diagonal streak looks to me like CCD (digital video camera cell) overflow which occurred while the camera was panned from the lower left to the upper right just before the image capture; the CCDs were still recovering from the overflow when the image was captured. Remember, on digital cameras, there's usually no shutter.

    19. Re:It's old news... by FastArtCee · · Score: 1

      I took the 'phenomenon' image, and, using Paint Shop Pro, subtracted the 'afer' image, then looked at the negative of the resulting image. (I did the same with the 'before' image, but the results of this manipulation are better with the 'after' image. I could see the streak and the flash (and, I think, water reflections around the flash) quite clearly. First, the only things that 'changed' in the time between the frames was the streak and flash, the position of the top of large cloud, and general wave reflections. It's not clear what the duration was between photos. (Somebody said somewhere in this discussion that the duration was brief because the position of 'the speed boat' doesn't change much. There is no speed boat: the 'boats' appear to me to be anchored tugs and barges.) Second, in addition the 'flash' itself, there also appears to be a line of reflections of the flash from wavelets in the body of water. (This is not 'smoke' or 'splash' or 'lightning' -- it appears to be reflections) The line of reflections of the arc extends from the far shore to the pier/bridge. Close to the flash, the flash reflections form a semi-circle around the flash. The line of flash reflections can be seen less clearly in the origial photo. My theory: The image phenomenon was caused by a split-second arc in the lamp. The flash reflected from wavelets across the width of the water body. I wonder if the 'dark streak' could possibly be a shadow cast by some small structural lamp support, conceivably something within the bulb? Filaments in bulbs do arc and fail, and the resulting flash is very bright and very brief -- more-or-less a strobe. And the bulb survives the arc event. But I have no idea if the lamps on this dock had filaments.

    20. Re:It's old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did YOU even read the article jackass? all it said was "cloud monitoring pictures" no mention of if it was automated or if someone was there.

    21. Re:It's old news... by Panaflex · · Score: 1

      It's a bug. Adjusting the contrast yields a white ghost of a bug, with the tail illuminated slightly, probably from the top of the abdomen. It's probably catching most of the light from the sun which is above and forward from the camera.

      The streak is probably due to the CCD algorithm which is additive over the frame as an average of the light during the duration of the frame capture. You can also see a slightly lighter trail of around 20 pixels above and below the dark trail of the wings.

      Pan

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    22. Re:It's old news... by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 1

      Given that we have this picture, the probability that it does indeed depict a meteor hitting the earth is much much greater than just the probability that anyone could possibly capture such an event on film.

    23. Re:It's old news... by fbjon · · Score: 1

      How do you mean? The camera was standing still, i.e. not panning anywhere. Also, why would the overflow error traverse diagonally over the image?

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    24. Re:It's old news... by DrMatt · · Score: 1

      I'm just reporting that it sure LOOKS like the camera was panning diagonally, perhaps because somebody was looking at something lower down and tilted it up to look at the pier again. The overflow then would traverse the image in the opposite direction of the pan, the same as fatigue marks in your eyes would if you looked at an accidental arc lamp.
      Other reasons for overflows to travel diagonally would include physical details of the CCD design as well as accidental reflections inside the camera. Other common causes for faint diagonal marks of that sort include hairs floating in front of the camera too close to be in focus. There are many possibilities which do not involve an object (never found) moving diagonally towards or away from the pier, and of those, I find the explanation in which the camera moved and paused just before the image was recorded involves the least bit of coincidence and unexplained entities. But considering the rest of the discussion, I'm not surprised that my suggestion is not taken very seriously.

    25. Re:It's old news... by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Ah, now I see. The fatigue would be from before the picture is taken, you mean? That is more possible, but the streak is damn straight. The pictures are also pixel-perfect in the same direction, the camera could hardly be moved back to the exact position it was in before. Interesting is also that the pole is likely a mast of one of the ships along the pier, as it is quite irregular compared to the taller light poles along the road (but not along the pier). That effectively debunks all the lamp theories. The hair theory is nice, but again, the streak is really straight, while hairs rarely are. Then again, the entire object is blurred by about the same amount, which would suggest a small abjoect just in from of the camera. Small spider swinging by?

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    26. Re:It's old news... by tuxtomas · · Score: 1

      The world is hot right now. That's New Zealand firing one over the bow.

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    27. Re:It's old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe it's a quark nugget ??

    28. Re:It's old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations on learning how to use paragraphs, rzbx.

  3. My view by oexeo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Seriously, it just looks like the guy needs to clean his camera lens to me.

    1. Re:My view by interiot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Except that camera was periodically taking pictures, and the picture right before and the picture right after don't show any problems on the lens.

    2. Re:My view by oexeo · · Score: 1

      In response to my own comment, either what I said above, or it's the smoke trail from a plane hitting the ocean. And since when did "bright streak" mean "dull gray streak"

    3. Re:My view by Fr05t · · Score: 1

      RTFA. This was a camera setup to monitor cloud movements. The streak and the flash aren't in any of the other photos :P Seriously their is text below the pretty picture.

    4. Re:My view by cjpez · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Obviously if the guy's lying about various things, all bets are off, but apparently this pic was one in a series set up to take pictures automatically or something, and they posted the pictures directly before and directly after this one, with no streak apparent. I mean, the guy could be lying about any number of things, but assuming that he's telling the truth, a dirty lens is unlikely to clean itself inbetween shots.

    5. Re:My view by oexeo · · Score: 1

      > RTFA

      Are we allowed to do that?

    6. Re:My view by Fr05t · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      oh and before the spelling police come out of the wood work with their ever helpful comments. I was typing fast and angry. I know I should have typed "there is" not "their is" :P

    7. Re:My view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh and before the spelling police come out of the wood work with their ever helpful comments. I was typing fast and angry[ily]. I know I should have typed "there is" not "their is" :P

    8. Re:My view by mpoulton · · Score: 1

      the picture right before and the picture right after don't show any problems on the lens

      What was the frame rate?

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    9. Re:My view by oexeo · · Score: 1

      Before someone corrects me, I'll do it myself: The article or summary didn't actually say "bright streak," the summary said "dark streak and bright flash."

    10. Re:My view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at the large picture. It is very clear that one cloud is floating in front of the streak -- meaning if it was dirt, it wasn't on the lense.

      Look for the small cloud in the foreground near the top of the streak.

    11. Re:My view by Racter · · Score: 1

      Except that the sequence of photos is reversed. I'd put on my tinfoil hat, but I left it in my other coat.

    12. Re:My view by wickedj · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... upon looking at the three photos, the after photo is a little blurry where the flash was so it was at least caught on 2 frames.

      I did notice that in the water, there is a pink dot that appears in all 3 photos unchanged. It seems like that could be a camera defect or dust on the lens.

    13. Re:My view by Ubergrendle · · Score: 1

      I disagree that its just a dirty camera lense (because of the before and after photos), but I think Ockham's razor does need to be applied liberally to this situation...

      Offhand, i'd guess a burst lightfixture in the streetlamp results in a weird digital camera artifact. Lord knows I've seen some weird photographic behaviour with my Canon A70 which could never be reproduced with analog physical film.

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    14. Re:My view by dmink · · Score: 1

      But yes, there was a flaw on the after picture. Look closely at the light that flashed in the after picture and compare it to the before picture. You'll see that the light is darker or has a haze around it in when comparing the after to the before.

    15. Re:My view by Mignon · · Score: 1
      ... there is a pink dot that ... could be a camera defect or dust on the lens.

      Or a bad pixel on your LCD monitor. ;)

    16. Re:My view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I took the before, during and after shots and made them into a brief animation (10fps). There is a trace of the dark streak above and to the right of the original streak, barely detectable in the animation. The steak moves faster than the background clouds, and in the same direction, which suggests something in the air in the vacinity of the posts, not something waaay back towards the horizon. The fact that the streak moves and disipates precludes bad/dirty optics. There is a moving boat which appears in the first two frames (near the right edge) which can provied a clue as to the "frame rate" (I'm gussing on the order of a few seconds).

      Would a "mild" lightning strike in relatively calm air produce such a trail? Although the article mentions that the pole was inspected, did someone actually shimmy up the pole? And how much evidence would the brielfy ionized air near the metal actually leave?

      My guess is that it's lightning

    17. Re:My view by Snags · · Score: 1

      ...and my CRT.

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    18. Re:My view by khallow · · Score: 1

      Looks like the streak is still there to me. It's just washed out by the brightness of that part of the cloud.

    19. Re:My view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...a dirty lens is unlikely to clean itself inbetween shots.

      That's true.

      There is no wind in Australia. Not many people know this but it's true.

    20. Re:My view by Magic5Ball · · Score: 3, Interesting

      EXIF data says the photo was shot at 1/20 at f5.6. The before, during, after photos were taken at 15s intervals.

      Assuming that the distance between the bulldozer and the surface anomoly site is 100m, if this were a projectile, it would be moving at about 2 kilometres per second.

      Note that the flight path appears slightly parabolic (bulges up), indicating that some non-gravity acceleration is involved.

      Also, why are we assuming that this projectile originated from the sky and not from under the water?

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    21. Re:My view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The smoke trail is too straight for lightning.

  4. IT has to be! by HBPiper · · Score: 2, Funny

    That tiny rocket from Krypton preparing to crash land on that old coot Kent's farm!

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    1. Re:IT has to be! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Kryptonians must have a bad sense of direction.

  5. I for one... by red30 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I for one welcome our new bright flash overlords.

  6. Photoshop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The photoshop of nature has a bug. Stop wondering and get back to work now.

  7. New Death Weapon Overlords by Democritus2 · · Score: 0

    I welcome our New Death Weapon Overlords.
    Obviously this is a new death weapon shot from space
    j/k

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    1. Re:New Death Weapon Overlords by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1
      Obviously this is a new death weapon shot from space

      Uh, oh! A death weapon that can destroy light bulbs! Someone alert the military!

    2. Re:New Death Weapon Overlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it's one of Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction. Somebody actually found one!

  8. Space Based Laser by Zebra_X · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    *Place tin foil hat on head*

    1. Re:Space Based Laser by bsd4me · · Score: 1

      No, that wasn't the Space Based Laser. That was just some ranging fire to make sure the targeting is accurate. The Space Based Laser fire will commence shortly.

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    2. Re:Space Based Laser by drakaan · · Score: 1
      That's not off-topic. At least not the subject line. Actually, after reading what everybody was pretty sure it *wasn't*, that's all I could come up with.

      To me, it looks like the bright spot is in the water, rather than on the light pole, which would make more sense, considering that the light pole was apparently not damaged and that flash looks like it had enough energy in it to at least make a scorch mark.

      It wasn't a meteor, it wasn't lightning, so what else could make a straight line from ocean to sky and make a bright spot in the water?

      Space-based (or just high-altitude) laser feels about right to me.

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    3. Re:Space Based Laser by Deflagro · · Score: 1

      I still think it was a meteorite of some sort. The "trail" seems to get darker further towards the ground. The meteorite could have exploded before hitting the ground (which does happen). I think it's a mix of coincidence for sure.
      I don't see what else it can be, it's something fast, energetic, going up to down.
      Either a laser or a meteor... chance picture tho.

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  9. World's biggest cloud chamber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing like the real thing, the atomosphere.

  10. Oblig by CaseM · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I, for one, welcome our new streaking overlords...

    1. Re:Oblig by garbs · · Score: 2, Funny

      > I, for one, welcome our new streaking overlords...

      As long as they are hot attractive females, I got no problem with that.

    2. Re:Oblig by Drizzt+Do'Urden · · Score: 1

      I hope the overlord is sexy, so we can enjoy the streaking!

  11. Superman by essreenim · · Score: 1, Funny

    , or is it a plane.....no its superman

    and hes going back in time to develop stem cell research.

    1. Re:Superman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, welcome our new streaking overlords!

  12. Um, flaw in the film? by portforward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It had to have been something in the development process. IANAFD (I am not a film developer) Could the film have been somehow kinked? I can't buy the fact that it is a freak astronomical event, even though it must have peaked enough people's interests to make it to NASA's picture of the day.

    1. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It's 'piqued', not 'peaked'.

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    2. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by lexarius · · Score: 1

      The part where it intersects with the exploding street lamp (or whatever it is) would seem a bit coincidental if it were just a film flaw

    3. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by suso · · Score: 5, Informative

      Um, film? It was a digital picture to begin with. Check out this in the header of the image:

      uExif
      Canon
      Canon PowerShot G3
      ACD Systems Digital Imaging
      2004:11:25 15:20:49
      0220
      0100
      2004:11:22 18:52:52
      2004:11:22 18:52:52
      IMG:PowerShot G3 JPEG
      Firmware Version 1.02

    4. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok then somehow the flash card was kinked? Any scenario preferable to my having to recognize the possibility of my world model being incomplete.

    5. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is there no picture of the exploded street lamp? surely after examining the images he would have investigated the street lamp

    6. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by pdh11 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Canon PowerShot G3

      My guess is a very bright event (the failure of the streetlight, probably) causing CCD overexposure and subsequent temporary ill effects on the rest of the CCD scan line. Any Canon geeks in the house who know about the CCD scanning direction of a Powershot G3 and can compare it with the streak "trajectory" angle?

      Peter

    7. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by A+Cheese+Danish · · Score: 1

      If you take a look at the large sized photograph and scan along the pier, you will see the cloud of smoke coming from the lamp right at the end of the "streak".

      Hmmm, I wonder if the odds of developing a random smear on the lens at the exact moment a lamp bulb explodes are as close as a "freak astronomical event".

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    8. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by mausmalone · · Score: 1

      Well, maybe you don't have to freak out just yet. I'm still liking the micrometeorite theory, though the unliklihood of that is astounding. I wouldn't guess that the flash card was kinked simply because you see 3 seemingly connected images on the film (dark streak, bright flash on the lamp, smoke rising from the base of the lamp).

      The flash and smoke would seem to be what you'd see if the electical system in the lamp (usually housed in the base) got surged and baked itself to death. Seeing as how this lamp is on a dock, the short circuit theory doesn't seem entirely unplausable. The dark streak, however, I can't explain. Could it be some sort of CCD artifact resulting from too high a contrast ratio? I know earlier digital cameras had problems with that.

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    9. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by suso · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think that's a very probable explaination. Plus, it is probably the simpilist one. Usually street lights do funny things when they turn off or on. And the lighting of the scene looks like it is dawn or dusk.

    10. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by cetan · · Score: 1

      Where does it say the image is from film?

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    11. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by drakaan · · Score: 1
      Actually, if you look at the large-sized photograph you will notice that the bulb of the one that is near the flash is actually a bit to the left of the flash location. If the flash wasn't at sea, then it struck nothing at all.

      That, and the fact that the inspection of the light doesn't support the "exploding light bulb" theory.

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    12. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please, if the failure of the streetlight from that distance caused issues with a G3 powershot then normal shooting issues would cause a lot more problems...oh and last I knew scanning directions were either horizontal or vertical..NOT diagonal

    13. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by pslam · · Score: 5, Interesting
      My guess is a very bright event (the failure of the streetlight, probably) causing CCD overexposure and subsequent temporary ill effects on the rest of the CCD scan line. Any Canon geeks in the house who know about the CCD scanning direction of a Powershot G3 and can compare it with the streak "trajectory" angle?

      I've had all sorts of annoying artifacts like this on my image capture setup at home, but generally overloading the CCD produces horizontal and vertical streaks only, which would follow the layout of the CCD (rows and columns?) The image could still be explained by either:

      • The CCD being deliberately mounted at an angle in the G3 (perhaps to reduce aliasing effects).
      • The bright spot caused lens flaring towards the top level just before the shot, with nearby pixels being dimmed in the image taken very shortly after.

      My theory is the bright flash is actually sunlight reflected off the lamp and either overloading the CCD or causing a lens flare just before the image, resulting in this artifact. I get that a lot with cars going by my camera setup at home, especially at sunrise and sunset. The only difference I get is that they're all perfectly horizontal and/or vertical.

    14. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by phloydde1 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I agree.. If you look close up at the light, the smoke and the majority of the flash looks like it's coming from UNDERNEATH, from the direction of where the light would be downwards.. It looks to me like the huge bulb in this sucker exploded causing an overload in the CCD, and thus causing the artifact..

      what's more interesting to me is the pink spot near the lower left that stays in a consistant spot in all 3 frames. (Look at the white building, the scan downwards. It's in the middle of the water.)

    15. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by jridley · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nope, CCD blooming happens primarily vertically, sometimes horizontally. Never on an angle. That flash isn't bright enough to cause that massive of an overexposure, and blooming causes the overexposure to bleed into the rest of the column/row, so it would be brighter, not darker. Also, blooming is typically symmetrical from the event, this image has the line going out only in one direction.

    16. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      Turn your camera at an angle and check?

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    17. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by jani · · Score: 1
      The CCD being deliberately mounted at an angle in the G3 (perhaps to reduce aliasing effects).


      No, the G3 has (as most other digital cameras) a CCD that is mounted as close to the horizontal plane as possible.

      If that was the case here, BTW, the image you se would have had to been a crop of the original.
    18. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by mbaciarello · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it's a sunlight-related artifact, too, but look closely to the right half of the picture.

      Around pixel x=1828, y=726 you can see a similar, roughly ring-shaped artifact. I don't think it's part of the clouds, as it would not be in direct sunlight if it was at the same distance as clouds around it.

      My guess is that it's part of the flare/noise caused by sunlight coming in at a weird angle. The "main" artifact over the lamp might just be a coincidence: the artifact is almost perfectly centered in the picture.

      Finally, there's more weird pixels around x=890, y=1348. Same color, much more regular shape...

    19. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by asrtoTP · · Score: 1

      I think it is a large beam of light kinda like a laser beam.

    20. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by computervredebreuk · · Score: 1

      A very good guess. By cutting out a section of each image that would be subjected to any sort of localized change in light levels and taking a histogram for each it is possible to see that there was one level of ambient light in that region, a flare up due to the event and then after, the light level is lower. This would be consistent with the observed behavior for any excited gas or metal filament based light fixture dying off and then no longer contributing to the light available in the area. The color of the flare up is consistent with the color of light emitted by those sources nearby where a bulb is directly visible. The light in the process of failing is in a housing that would not allow the bulb to be directly visible from any direction not below the street light itself, probably due to being right on the water. The streak and other phenomenon in the vicinity of the flare up are likely artifacts generated by the camera design. Also, the article indicates that the light fixture itself was not damaged but the bulb was inoperative. This would be the most compelling reason to support the theory of a catastrophic light source failure being captured by pure coincedence over any other.

    21. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by pdh11 · · Score: 4, Informative

      the streak "trajectory" angle

      The streak angle, BTW, is exactly arctan(2/3) -- the streak goes two pixels up for every three across. (It goes 652 pixels up and 978 across, which is less than 1% different from 2/3, smaller than the error of me pointing at things in the Gimp.) To me this makes it very likely to be an artifact.

      Peter

    22. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the significance of 0220 and 0100, could either of those be the shutter speed? That's something I'd like to know. Because, as cloud-monitoring photographs, these could be several-second exposures with a really small aperture or a dark nd lens, which would open up a whole 'nother can of worms.

    23. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my G1 only ever produced vertical "overflow" which is common to CCD. And this it only ever did in movie-mode, I could never see this in a image. Even when pointing directly into the sun.

      I must also say that the actual "flash" in this image very much looks like something produced inside the lens, lensflare of some sort is my guess.

      The dark streak on the other hand I dont know about.

    24. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by FraggedSquid · · Score: 1

      No, it was swamp gas that reflected the light from Venus off a weather balloon.

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    25. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Some newer ones have that too, but they don't extend diagonally, they extend along the "reading" path of the ccd, either horizontally or vertically. In one of my cameras, it goes straight down (relative to the camera).

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    26. Re:Um, flaw in the film? by vettemph · · Score: 1
      what's more interesting to me is the pink spot near the lower left that stays in a consistant spot in all 3 frames. (Look at the white building, the scan downwards. It's in the middle of the water.)

      Thats a dead pixel. My Olympus c2100uz has a few. It shows up in the same spot based on zoom level. ...or perhaps its a severed head.

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  13. Source of the line by Lev13than · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'd say round paintbrush, 20 pixels, black with 10% opacity.
    Either that or he needs to clean his camera lens.

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    1. Re:Source of the line by bruce_the_moose · · Score: 1

      Read the text. The image is not digitally enhanced. The frame is one of a series for looking at the changes in cloud formation. There is no streak or flash in the frames immediately before or after. Therefore, something wrong with the lens would show up in all frames.

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    2. Re:Source of the line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Read the text. The image is not digitally enhanced.

      So long as the guy that took it says it's not, I guess it must be true.

    3. Re:Source of the line by hedge_death_shootout · · Score: 1

      the image is not digitally enhanced

      Read the text, the guy 'insists' it's not digitally enhanced.

      I dunno what the fuss is about - it's probably just a tiny little alien spaceplane.

    4. Re:Source of the line by XMyth · · Score: 1

      "I want to believe." bumper stickers for sale....cheap...want some?

    5. Re:Source of the line by Smidge204 · · Score: 1

      Read the text. The image is not digitally enhanced.

      Right, because anything in text - especially on the internet - is 100% true by default. Read it again: The photographer insists that the streak and flash on the above image has not been created digitally. It's only the photographer's word that we have as evidence it hasn't been tampered with.

      What I think is the most concerning is how the "event" is almost EXACTLY in the middle of the frame. You would think that, if something was going to fall unexpectedly out of the sky, the chance that you'd be taking a picture at that exact instant and at the exact spot it's going to hit would be all but nil.

      The "Before" and "After" shots are also suspicious, since they are all identical except for the clouds. Though this is more easily explained: The camera was on a tripod.

      Someone else noted that the internal timestamps for the three images are inconsistent with the order they are presented. According to this, the image with the streak was taken first at 15:20:49, the "After" picture was taken two minutes later at 15:22:47, and the "before" picture was taken only 24 seconds later at 15:23:11.

      I call shenanigans. Either it's a doctored photo or the event was staged. Or both.
      =Smidge=

    6. Re:Source of the line by elhaf · · Score: 1

      You're looking at the file timestamps, not those set by the camera internally. Note that your timestamps are from days later, probably when the pictures were copied from the camera to the computer. I think if it were shenanigans, they would have done it all in one day, personally. In any case, the order of the pictures is reversed, not permuted, as indicated by the earlier timestamps. It goes after, during, before. The cloud formations grow and the boat with the wake to the left of it goes to the right (correctly) if the pictures are viewed in that order. Finally, if the middle picture were modified, I wouldn't expect the file timestamps to be so close together but yet out of order. He surely would have doctored the file timestamps correctly if he doctored them, or at least made them match his mistaken assertion about the order. Simplest explanation is that around 7:00 p.m. the lights on the dock were turning on, but one blew. If something was planned, however, it was that event. But why then make a big deal about a meteorite if you really knew all along that it was a light you had rigged to explode and then photographed? Talk about self-incrimination for no good reason.

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    7. Re:Source of the line by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Actually I think the lower times are the timestamps. That is, 18:53:07 "before", 18:52:52 event, 18:52:37 "after". Which would mean "before" and "after" are swapped. It also means that one photo was taken every 15 seconds, or 4 photos per minute. Which seems reasonable to me.

      Also, you're wrong that only the clouds have changed. The waves of the water are different, the boat on the right moves fast, and the boat in the midlle moves (very) slow, both apparently with constant speed. Moreover the boat on the right is mostly (but not competely) hidden on the earliest (the "after") image.

      Of course that doesn't proof anything about the strike itself, but at least the images were most probably really photographed independently short after each other (although in reversed order that claimed). It would IMHO be too hard to fake all the things I mentioned (and if you want to fake such an event, you would be silly to make one photo and take it for before/after as well, when taking three photos shortly after each other is quite easy).

      Now the fact that the event is close to the middle is indeed a bit suspicious. But then, if it's an (unintentional) artefact, the nature of that artefact might explain that, too. And of course there's some chance for a real event happening close to the middle by pure chance.

      So there is reason to be suspicious, but I don't think that you can actually claim it to be a fake based on the available information.

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    8. Re:Source of the line by pomakis · · Score: 1
      It also means that one photo was taken every 15 seconds, or 4 photos per minute. Which seems reasonable to me.

      Except for the fact that the Canon PowerShot G3 can't be programmed to take a photo every 15 seconds. The G3 has an "intervalometer" feature, but it can only be set between 1 minute and 60 minutes at 1-minute intervals. This raises my suspicion as to how genuine this photo is.

    9. Re:Source of the line by mabinogi · · Score: 1

      so he uses an external trigger mechanism....

      if you look really hard enough I think you'd be able to find something suspicious in just about everything on the planet....

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    10. Re:Source of the line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about t-shirts reading "I refuse to accept that there may be more to the universe than we have at present discovered?" Comes in your size.

      BTW: If I missed the joke, mod appropriately.

  14. Kinetic Probe by YourTechSupport · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't be alarmed. Okay, panic a little if your get your water from there.

  15. Streak? by BigBadBus · · Score: 1
    I couldn't see it at first, then I wiped my monitor with some kleenex I keep by for emergencies, and then...there it was!

    It would have nice if it was pointed out in advance just where we were supposed to have been looking!

    1. Re:Streak? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Funny

      Weird! I could see the streak until I wiped my screen with a Kleenex and the streak vanished!

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    2. Re:Streak? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      then I wiped my monitor with some kleenex I keep by for emergencies

      I enjoy when people feel they need to supply an explanation for why there was kleenex next to their computer. "They're, um, for if I have a runny nose. Yeah, that's it! Nothing else at all..."

    3. Re:Streak? by stanmann · · Score: 1

      I've never felt that need, of course I have at least one box in every room, within reach for whatever use is required.. from runny nose to spilled coke...

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    4. Re:Streak? by gfreeman · · Score: 1

      Pfaffenbach: You've got four bogies heading toward you!
      [sneezes on the radar screen]
      Pfaffenbach: Oh my God, a dozen more of them! And a blimp, a big, shiny blimp and it's slowly moving south!

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  16. Skeptical view by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1

    A poor Photoshop job?

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    1. Re:Skeptical view by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it; Ackbar and Cthulu are nowhere to be found!

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    2. Re:Skeptical view by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 1

      I can only conclude, then, that it's a trap...

      YAW.

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  17. missing option by theMerovingian · · Score: 1, Funny


    Heh, this should have been a slashdot poll... What is the mysterious object in the picture?

    1) part of the ISS that fell off.

    2) a meteor

    3) a meteorite (to troll the astronomy experts who will have to chime in and explain the difference)

    4) the opening salvo of an alien invasion

    5) Santa's sleigh

    6) Cowboyneal's private jet

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    1. Re:missing option by Ingolfke · · Score: 2, Funny

      2) a meteor

      3) a meteorite (to troll the astronomy experts who will have to chime in and explain the difference)


      I'll take the bait. For those of you who don't own a telescope or care about the awesomenessfulness of the cosmos, the beauty of Alphi Centuari, or the amazing moons of Jupiter, here's the difference between a meteor and a meteorite, in laymen's terms.

      A meteor is a boy space rock, a meteorite is a girl space rock. When a metorite crashes into the ocean it is called an asteroid. Meteorite's that crash into land are called asterites.

      I can only take my hypocrisy so far... please go edjucate yoursleves.

    2. Re:missing option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually

      a meteor is the streak of light or tail that you see in a "shooting star"

      a meteorite is the actual rock/metal chunk of matter that is causing the streak of light

      an asteroid is completely unrelated, its a celetial body orbiting a sun in space, not having entered a planet's atmosphere

      'boy' and 'girl' space rock? wtf kind of space rocks are you smoking ?

    3. Re:missing option by Ingolfke · · Score: 1

      Oh, well... my link to wikipedia seems to have disappeared.

      The last line should have read...

      I can only take my hypocrisy so far... please go edjucate yoursleves .

    4. Re:missing option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much better this would seem if you could only spell "educate"....

      Sigh - kids these days

    5. Re:missing option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with a SOVIET RUSSIAN ejucation, the joke is on YOU

  18. it's underdog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    it's underdog

    1. Re:it's underdog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where is Wally Cox now anyway?

  19. Simple answer! by ERJ · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Looks like a dirty camera lens to me ;-)

    1. Re:Simple answer! by kerry63 · · Score: 1

      I think it's a tractor beam.

    2. Re:Simple answer! by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 1

      but the before and after pictures, seconds apart are clean

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  20. Cloud by Eu4ria · · Score: 1

    Looked like a big cloud to me - then I saw what I thought was dirt on my monitor but it turns out that that is what I am supposed to be looking at.

  21. Ironic username for submitting this story by suso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Koyaanisqatsi was the title of the 1983 film which has the prophecy:

    "If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster. Near the Day of Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky. A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans."

    1. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by kidgenius · · Score: 1

      I was forced to watch that movie a class earlier this semester. It drove me completely nuts.

    2. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by magarity · · Score: 1

      Oh, sure, like I don't get enough prophecies as plot devices in mediocre fantasy / sci-fi that you need to suggest some for the real world.

    3. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by Speare · · Score: 1

      Koyaanisqatsi was the title of the 1983 film which has the prophecy:...

      Okay, Ken Jennings, we know you're bored after that winning Jeopardy series finally ended, but please don't go showing off your trivia-fu here, mmkay?

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    4. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by hedge_death_shootout · · Score: 2, Funny

      My god, that shit beats Nostradamus hands down.
      They got the lamppost and everything.

    5. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by Hatta · · Score: 1

      If anyones interested, the whole QATSI trilogy is available by bittorrent at mvgroup.org(in the other documentaries section. There's a lot of beautiful footage and beautiful music, but not much of a plot. Eat a bunch of shrooms before hand, you'll be glad you did.

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    6. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by wes33 · · Score: 1

      Koyaanisqatsi had my favorite one-word film review (can't remember what paper):

      diddlysqatsi

    7. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by elhaf · · Score: 1

      Ok, you've caused me to unleash my triviojo: In 1920, the Hopi Indians sent a letter to Woodrow Wilson asking to be admitted to the League of Nations to plead with the "world" not to use the gourd of ashes (a-bomb), which had not yet been invented. They were refused entry. That movie title, of course, is from the Hopi for crazy life, as opposed to the nature and peace-based life they admonish us to pursue. They were finally admitted to speak before the UN in 1991 on this matter.

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    8. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also the name of a kickass german punk band.

    9. Re:Ironic username for submitting this story by Eric+S.+Smith · · Score: 1

      In my opinion:

      • Koyaanisqatsi (1983) is really groovy. There's plenty of beautiful time-lapse and slow-motion landscape and cityscape stuff. The score is by Philip Glass -- decide how you feel about that, and that'll determine whether you'll want to watch these movies.
      • Powaqqatsi (1988) is basically more of the same. There are more people in it. Not quite so novel, so less compelling, maybe. Also scored by Philip Glass.
      • Naqoyqatsi (2002) is crap. It's a bunch of stock footage that we've seen before interspersed with some uninteresting computer imagery. Glass's score is utterly pedestrian.

      I can't express enough how much of a half-assed disappointment Naqoyqatsi is. The supposed theme of all three movies is Good Nature vs. Evil Inhuman Technology. You don't really notice in the first two; the third beats you over the head with it.

      I do endorse Koyaanisqatsi: it's majestic and absorbing. The others are not "must-see" material.

  22. That streak is awful straight by Lonesome+Squash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    for any sort of natural phenomenon. It suggests a photographic artifact of some sort. Is the flash definitely related? It certainly appears to be coming from the end of what the APoD caption identifies as a light pole, which is not working. Could it have failed with a sudden flash? Could it coincidentally have occurred at the same time as the streak artifact?

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    1. Re:That streak is awful straight by Peyna · · Score: 1

      The light pole's shape at the top is slightly different between the before and after photo.

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    2. Re:That streak is awful straight by Lonesome+Squash · · Score: 1
      The light pole's shape at the top is slightly different between the before and after photo.

      I wouldn't know, but in tFA it says that the post was inspected and the light was found not working, but undamanged.

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    3. Re:That streak is awful straight by Ignignot · · Score: 1

      When something is moving very very fast, it looks like it is moving perfectly straight. I imagine if the picture were bigger or had larger resolution, you would be able to see the streak being influenced by gravity.

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    4. Re:That streak is awful straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the most plausible explanation I've heard so far. I suppose it's vaguely possible that the flash caused the streak artifact.

    5. Re:That streak is awful straight by martingunnarsson · · Score: 1

      If you RTFA instead of just looking at TFP you can see the before and after images, the light pole doesn't look strange in any way on those other images.

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    6. Re:That streak is awful straight by Moderatbastard · · Score: 0
      You must have access to a higher res version of the photo, because on the ones linked from TFA I can barely see the lightpole, let alone the shape of the top.

      That or you're full of bullshit.

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    7. Re:That streak is awful straight by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      So the flash could be the light bulb dying and the streak could be its soul aacending to heaven... Nothing on the APoD site says the streak was seen descending, nor does it say that the light was known to be working (or not working) prior to the event.

    8. Re:That streak is awful straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you TBYFT (think before you type) you'll realize that a lightbulb exploding won't last very long.

    9. Re:That streak is awful straight by Khomar · · Score: 1
      Could it have failed with a sudden flash?

      This is an interesting thought. I am no where near an expert in photography, but if the light in the street lamp did just burn out (it is hard to tell if it is actually on in the before photograph), could the flash have created a shadow effect on the camera lens. This would certainly explain how the line is so straight. It could just be an anomaly in the process of developing a digital picture. Perhaps someone with more experience with digital photography could shed some light (pun intended?) on this.

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    10. Re:That streak is awful straight by Fortran+IV · · Score: 1

      Over the distance in the photo, anything much slower than a bullet would show a visible curve. Is the Australian military developing a secret lamppost antimissile system?

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    11. Re:That streak is awful straight by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      Digital cameras use CCD chips (mostly). When CCDs are overexposed, they will "bleed" signal along rows or columns, not diagonally.

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    12. Re:That streak is awful straight by Shillo · · Score: 1

      When you flash a CCD, the affected cells will affect their cell column, resulting in a bright line from the hotspot straight up to the edge of the photo. This doesn't look like an overloaded CCD, in other words.

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    13. Re:That streak is awful straight by udowish · · Score: 1

      obviously you have never really seen a long meteor trail; they are always straight as arrows.

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    14. Re:That streak is awful straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CLICK on the BLOODY IMAGE you UTTER TWIT.

    15. Re:That streak is awful straight by stevesliva · · Score: 1

      Looks like reentry streaks, but not bright. For instance This photo and this photo seen here. I wonder what such streaks would look like in daylight, though?

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    16. Re:That streak is awful straight by daniil · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The streak could be a contrail shadow.

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    17. Re:That streak is awful straight by hypnagogue · · Score: 1

      I have seen many contrail shadows near my place in Colorado, and that is EXACTLY what they look like. I recognized it immediately. Note that the light on the clouds indicates that the sun is in the direction of the streak.

      The light pole flash is totally unrelated.

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    18. Re:That streak is awful straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was a contrail shadow (my initial thought) then why didn't it show up on the other pictures only two minutes apart? They tend to last a little longer than that.

    19. Re:That streak is awful straight by Moderatbastard · · Score: 0
      Original reply:
      My bad, OE was resizing the pictures.

      Reply after overriding that feature:
      There's still no difference, asshat.

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    20. Re:That streak is awful straight by djtripp · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't there also be a bit of a residual effect, i.e. lasting longer than 15 seconds?

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    21. Re:That streak is awful straight by Suidae · · Score: 1

      I'd expect a contrail shadow to exibit some kind of perspective effect, changing width with distance. The lower end down by the horizon just doesnt' look like something that could be a shadow on the clouds.

      I think its a simple hoax thats received far too much attention.

  23. Maybe Not a Phenomenon at all by rb4havoc · · Score: 1

    ...And then they discovered they had some dirt on their lens.

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  24. sky is falling by remosain · · Score: 0

    Somebody call the Russians and ask them kindly if they still have all their satellites on the sky.

  25. The street light? by icejai · · Score: 1

    Can't the person who took this photo just walk up and take a few pictures of that light post that seems to have been struck by something?

    1. Re:The street light? by hool5400 · · Score: 1

      I'm in the area and will try and get some photos of the area, but i think the wharf in question is restricted in terms of access.

      If the forums come back up i'll post them there.

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    2. Re:The street light? by purfledspruce · · Score: 1
      The caption on the photo in the original article says:

      "The light pole near the flash has been inspected and does not show any damage, although the light inside was not working."

      Read the article before you comment!

  26. It's a bird, it's a plane... by BigIrv · · Score: 1

    It's a now flying shark with a "laser"!
    I'll get you Dr. Evil!

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    1. Re:It's a bird, it's a plane... by MaynardJanKeymeulen · · Score: 1

      frikkin' laser

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    2. Re:It's a bird, it's a plane... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FLYING

  27. SAM? by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 1

    Possibly the exhaust trail from a Surface-to-Air Missle?

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    1. Re:SAM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think we found the mystery 1,000lb "shoulder launched Phoenix" missile that got TWA 800!

      Hehe I love the ravings of the conspiracy nuts.

  28. Bottle Rocket by Mad+Hughagi · · Score: 1

    Fireworks? What are the time intervals between the 3 photos?

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  29. Easy by ThumbSuck · · Score: 1

    Sunlight. Or sunlight reflecting on the cloud.

  30. It is a bird by kraemer · · Score: 1

    It is a bird coming in from the upper left behind the camera. If you look at the point where the line intersects the light pole you can see the birds blurry outline. Since the shot was taken in low light the shutter was open long enough that a fast moving bird would cause a a line like that.

    1. Re:It is a bird by Netsensei · · Score: 1

      An african swallow carrying a coconut perhaps?

  31. Damage? by nherc · · Score: 1

    Perhaps examining the light pole that appears to have been hit would provide a clue? Did anyone do that?

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    1. Re:Damage? by Lurch+Kimded · · Score: 1

      Yup... according to what I have read up on this the poll is not damaged apart from the light on top of it having not worked for some time.

      Personally I am going to run the image and the ones before and after through Photoshop and see if I can see any anomalies... of course, there are much better people than me who are probably doing the same.

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  32. UFO? by minus_273 · · Score: 1

    i cant resist...i for one welcome our new straking overlords

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    The war on terror is a war for peace
    1. Re:UFO? by dark_panda · · Score: 4, Funny

      There was no alien. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.

      Nothing to see here, move along folks.

      J

    2. Re:UFO? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Actually, the flash of light was the Neuralyzer ...

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    3. Re:UFO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Government Agent: You haven't seen anything strange in the sky around here tonight, HAVE you?

      Man: But.... Uh.... no, I guess I haven't seen anything.

      Agent: Be sure it stays that way.

      Man: Yeah. Yeah, I'll, uh, do that.

      Agent: We wouldn't want to have any incidents.

      Man. No.

      The house was destroyed by fire the same night. Investigators rules it was caused by breakfast left cooking on the stove. The man also had a broken neck, which was the actual cause of death. Invesigators said he put the food on, went back to bed, woke up, fell out of bed and broke his neck, and then the house burned down.

      They could not explain why someone would cook breakfast at 3:00AM or how someone with a broken neck was able to move himself from the bedroom to the living room.

  33. Sorry, everyone! by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Funny

    That was me.

    I was trying out my new death-ray. I had it miscalibrated so that you could see it.

    Don't worry about it. When death comes and strikes from the heavens for real, it'll be completely invisible.

    -Ming the Merciless

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    1. Re:Sorry, everyone! by aurb · · Score: 1

      NO, that wast you. Everyone knows that was superman.

    2. Re:Sorry, everyone! by swight1701 · · Score: 1

      Look at it closely, its obviously Wonderwoman's invisible jet.

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    3. Re:Sorry, everyone! by hackstraw · · Score: 1


      Stewie, is that you?

    4. Re:Sorry, everyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...well I for one welcome our new death ray overlord holding the world hostage.

    5. Re:Sorry, everyone! by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm not worried because Flash, he'll save every one of us!

      Chris Mattern

    6. Re:Sorry, everyone! by asrtoTP · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      hey you are a fag you munson

    7. Re:Sorry, everyone! by asrtoTP · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      you are a freaking fag you fucker

  34. Conspiracy by stettin · · Score: 1

    Test firing of a new satellite based EMP.

  35. OBL found by maximilln · · Score: 1

    It was a laser guided, satellite launched micro-missle which was targeted on OBL who was found to be hiding in Australia. That flash is all that was left of him.

    The pic before/after this one don't show OBL on the pier because he was hiding in the water underneath it.

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  36. Fark had a photoshop contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Photoshop something that ends up on the slashdot main page - difficulty astronomical! Still no cure for cancer.

    If you zoom in on the "impact" you can clearly see Gen. Ackbar's head.

  37. Maybe it's the Camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd say it's probably something on the lens.

  38. Sorry, that was me. by 955301 · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    I was let down pretty hard by the character graphics on WoW - much too cartoony compared to EQ et. al. for my taste.

    I'll clean up after myself next time. Promise.

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    You are checking your backups, aren't you?
    1. Re:Sorry, that was me. by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Actually your sig pretty much explains the picture. :)

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  39. Duh.... by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 0

    Death ray.

  40. Aliens! by Dana+P'Simer · · Score: 1
    It is a super small alien space ship manned by super intelligent aliens no bigger than ants. They failed to judge their trajecotry correctly and slammed into the lamp post on the pier.

    Let us all bow our heads in silence as we remember these small but brave travelers.

    1. Re:Aliens! by Spokehedz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Obligatory Red Dwarf Quote:

      "Oh god, aliens? Your explanation for anything slightly peculiar is aliens, isn't it? You lose your keys - it's aliens. A picture falls off the wall - it's aliens. That time we used up a whole bog-roll in a day - you thought that was aliens as well."
      -- Lister to Rimmer about the Garbage Pod that Holly brought aboard to mess with Rimmer.

  41. Their forum is hosed... by Euphorea · · Score: 1

    "The forum setup to discuss it is currently hosed, so perhaps fellow slashdotters can shed some light over the mystery?" ...or perhaps a those fellow slashdotters can help with the hosing, 'cause now I imagine their poor server is suffering under weight of all that is mighty, the "Slashdot Effect", and the forum is currently firehosed...

  42. New Year allways starts sooner in Australia. by CdXiminez · · Score: 1

    It's fireworks!

  43. Bababoowie! Bababoowie! Howard Stern's penis! All your little streaks in the sky are belong to us!

    I for one kneel before our new little-streaks-from-the-sky overlords!

    Hey, imagine a Beowulf cluster of these little streaks! Wouldn't that be a powerful computer?

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  44. Nope by aslagle · · Score: 1, Informative

    That solution is the solution to a different 'challenge' APOD, not to the dark streak in the current picture.

  45. Re:Solution posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually that is the answer for a previous question they posted.

  46. wanna see those top down ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nasa's worldwind (here on slashdot a while back) shows some mighty funny objects in the australian sky. Could well be the same things, whatever they are.

    1. Re:wanna see those top down ? by Biomechanical · · Score: 1

      Australia is full of wierd events.

      I've personally seen two strange flying objects that I cannot explain, and my Dad has told me about a brief encounter he had when he was younger.

      One thing I've seen was a white disc-shaped object moving through the sky at high altitude, but not flying gracefully as your northern hemisphere ufo's do, oh no.
      The pilot of this ufo must of thought it would be funny to flip the ship edge over edge, like a tossed coin moving horizontally instead of vertically.

      The other ufo sighting of mine is your more "mysterious lights" sort.
      Latish one evening while I was standing on the back verandah I happened to see an orange light moving low in the sky from the east towards the west.
      I thought it might have been an F-111 doing a "dump and burn" since I live near the RAAF base at Amberley, but I couldn't hear it, and you will definitely hear a "dump and burn" when it's happening.
      I watched because it looked kinda cool, and was surprised to see it join two other lights, one coming from somewhere off to the north and the other from the west.
      They buzzed around the top of Denmark Hill - kind of a small parkland just near the Ipswich Hospital - doing some really close and tight turns and maneuvers for several minutes, and then flew off towards the north-north-west until they were out of sight.

      Now, I'm not saying they were aliens, or some secret government project or whatever, so leave that tin-foil sitting on the hatstand.
      I'm saying that if you keep an eye open, you'll probably see at least one very odd occurance in your life.

      I'd like to believe there are aliens. I have no proof to the contrary so it remains forever a possibility for me.
      I often imagine what would be the best thing to do when meeting an alien from outer space - probably don't move, don't smile, and don't wave hello in case the bugger misinterprets it and goes for his sidearm - but I don't pin all my hopes and dreams on it like some people.

      Just a few hopes and dreams. :)

      We live in a big freaking universe, and since it was possible for life to start on earth, I don't see why life couldn't start on another planet - no pseudo-religious arguments about god please.

      Anywho, whatever the dark streak and bright flash in the photo actually is, we're never going to know for certain, so why not let this photographer think it's aliens, or a meteroite, or a star wars laser test gone wrong.
      We can argue about it back and forth for days but there's really no point.
      The guy took some pictures, wasn't abducted by aliens or the government, and now his life is a little more mysterious.
      Good, we all need a bit more mystery in our lives sometimes. It'll give him something to talk to his grandkids about.

      Ah, I know what to do when I meet that alien. Offer him a drink.
      I've seen Tripping the Rift and Farscape. Everyone likes to get sloshed. :)

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    2. Re:wanna see those top down ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Appears to be an aircraft contrail, but as for what the heck that aircraft is, I don't know.

  47. Wow... by gustgr · · Score: 1

    What amazing lucky! The streak may have existed for a few seconds only and the photographer have shooted it. Is this really serious?

    1. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the photographer have shooted it.

      Shooted?

    2. Re:Wow... by Strenoth · · Score: 1

      ANf if you had RTFA, you'd have seen that his camera was takign a series of photographs only a few seconds apart.

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  48. Re:Solution posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ummm...yeah... A solution to a totally different question. You didn't read EITHER article, impressive.

    Geez...

  49. Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the smaller Alien Spaceship 0.5 crashing to earth. Combined with the earlier slashdot story about robots and gundams, I expect to see Valkyries in production any time now...

  50. What a clear photo! by Hatechall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I don't understand is how the "flash" at the end of the streak is so clean of an image. Even with crazy f/stop settings and an ISO equiv of 400 - I would imagine a picture in that light would have to have a shutter speed of at most 1/30th of a second, more than enough time to cause blur even to a slowly moving object. Am I off base here?

    1. Re:What a clear photo! by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Am I off base here?

      Possibly but not far off base. The picture was taken by a photographer with a telephoto lense. He was taking pictures of a large area where movement is occurring. I doubt that he would be using a shutter speed as slow as 1/30. I would not take pictures at that distance with less than 1/250 as it would reveal photographer tremors (though he could be using a tripod, but then he would go for 1 /125)

    2. Re:What a clear photo! by jandrese · · Score: 1

      I was under the impression that the camera was mounted on a fixed surface and configured to snap pictures periodically to watch cloud formations or something. A low shutter speed wouldn't be a problem because clouds aren't going to move very far in 1/30 of a second.

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    3. Re:What a clear photo! by troon · · Score: 1

      Actually, the focal length used was 46mm (35mm equivalent, certainly not telephoto) and the shutter speed was 1/20s. Bizarrely, the flash was used. See my "My solution" comment.

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    4. Re:What a clear photo! by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

      Bizarrely, the flash was used. See my "My solution" comment.

      That is weird, at that distance the flash would be nowhere near as illuminating as your comment. Thanks for the correction :-)

    5. Re:What a clear photo! by grape+jelly · · Score: 1

      Umm. If it's a very brief, very intense burst of light, it'd create a sharp image as shown. Kinda like a flash, in reverse. But it looks like the prior and subsequent images are framed identically, which implies that the camera was mounted on a tripod. In that case, the source of the light would have to *itself* be moving to blur.

    6. Re:What a clear photo! by jridley · · Score: 1

      According to the EXIF data the exposure was 1/20 second at f/5.6. For some odd reason, the flash fired.

    7. Re:What a clear photo! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The shutter speed was longer than 1/30 (I seem to recall 1/15 noted elsewhere) and as long as the flash from any explosion or similar is shorter than the exposure time, and bright enough, it will be plenty clear.

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    8. Re:What a clear photo! by mollymoo · · Score: 1
      Actually, the focal length used was 46mm

      Really? The EXIF data on the shot says 9.1mm.

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    9. Re:What a clear photo! by mollymoo · · Score: 1
      What I don't understand is how the "flash" at the end of the streak is so clean of an image.

      Electronic camera flashes last a few milliseconds, not for as long as the exposure. The only reason cameras firing flash expose for longer is to correctly expose the background that the flash doesn't reach.

      Have you ever seen an image of headlights with a perfect frozen image of the car at the end? That's a long exposure with the flash at the beginning (first curtain) or end (second curtain) of the exposure. If you jiggle your camera taking a flash shot you get a similar, but less pronounced effect without deliberately setting a long exposure.

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    10. Re:What a clear photo! by Jay+Bratcher · · Score: 1

      What a piece of crap lameness filter - I would love to have posted the full exif data, but some retard at Slashdot apparently thinks punctuation and white space are not valid.

      Anyway - The photo was exposed for 1/20 at F5.6 - At this speed, and given the clarity, it was almost certainly on a tripod, or stabilized some other way. Other than that, it has been run through ACDSee, which could be because it was a raw photo, or because it was edited.

    11. Re:What a clear photo! by RedBear · · Score: 1

      Two words for you:

      tri
      pod

      He was taking regular interval photos to capture the cloud movements, and the before and after pictures are exactly the same in terms of what's in the frame. Obviously the camera was stationary on a good solid tripod. The shutter was open 1/20th of a second at f5.6 to capture the ambient light. During that 1/20th of second there was a very brief, bright flash. I human eye might not have noticed it even while directly looking at it, but it is perfectly reasonable for the CCD in the camera to have picked it up if it occurred while the shutter was open.

      I really have a difficult time believing the amount of idiocy I have seen on /. while reading this story. I'm not referring to you but to all the people who thing this thing is a "bug" or a magaical "contrail shadow" that is somehow flat even though there's nothing flat for it to be projected on. Slashdot seems to have lost its collective mind this week. If it's not a fake there's no way it could be anything but a small meteorite. It either hit the light or skimmed by close enough for the shock wave to blow out the light and cause the flash/smoke.

      Yo, bug people! The flash and the smoke are separated by empty space! The flash fired on the camera! If the bug was that close it would have been solid, not transparent, whether it was blurry or not! You're all insane! It's not a bug!

      Gaaa! Popular delusions and the madness of crowds.

  51. Improvements of APOD by Lord+Satri · · Score: 1

    I love APOD. I go there daily. My main problem with APOD is the mass reusing of pictures without any way of knowing if the "picture of the day" is a duplicate or not.

    Yes I tried contacting the APOD maintainers as indicated in this previous APOD slashdot story :-)

    1. Re:Improvements of APOD by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

      Must be an alien conspiracy to keep YOU from seeing new pictures!!!!!

      Ph33r t3h Grayz!

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  52. Ugly thoughts by shawkin · · Score: 1

    Aircraft parts fall off.
    Aircraft toilets malfunction.

    Has the light pole been checked for bacteria?
    Most of the vital parts on an aircraft are built by the lowest bidder.

  53. Bzzt Wrong by SteveM · · Score: 1

    This is from the September 13th APOD. Not the December 5th APOD.

    Thanks for playing.

    Steve

  54. Looks like two things happened at the same time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The light pole was not damaged, but the light inside it was not working. It looks to me like there was either some grime on the lens or a freak problem with developing the film (if indeed it was a film camera), right at the moment that the light bult went out. (You do realize that normal light bulbs go out with a bright flash, although I admit they tend to be more blue than the photo.) The two incidents (photo imperfection/light bulb burn out) may very likely have been a freak chance.

  55. Re:forum down? by cliffski · · Score: 1

    bah!

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  56. It's OBVIOUS! by csoto · · Score: 1

    Didn't you see the little silver De Lorean Gull Wing disappear just before the little flash? I suspect it was using about 1.21 Gigawatts of power at that moment...

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  57. That'd be my guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you get a bubble on the file during processing you'll get a bright spot with a streak if the film wasn't agitated enough. Though it doesn't quite look like that since I seem to remember a dark annular ring around those. Could be some sort of contaminating substance affecting the developement with the streak caused by mechanical squeeging of the film, those it's an odd direction to squeegee in.

    1. Re:That'd be my guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You DO get a lot of unwanted bubbles in Photoshop, as it happens.

      I'm forever squeeging my .ORFs.

  58. Re:Solution posted by 00Sovereign · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's not the solution to this image. However, it is the solution to the APOD from September 13th which can be seen at: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040913.html

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  59. Let's see Watson... by ceeam · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the article:

    Images taken just before and after the above frame show no streak or flash. The light pole near the flash has been inspected and does not show any damage, although the light inside was not working.

    Can we reasonably say that it was just a light bulb blowing off? Streak? Boy, for sure when I get a bright lamp in the frame I have all kinds of streaks going off it on the picture. So - I'd say it's either an optical or digicam artifact caused by the flash.

    1. Re:Let's see Watson... by BranMan · · Score: 1

      For you to find out if you are right we need more information. If we can get hold of the images before and after this frame, then you could see if the lamp was lit before and dark after. Unless that is true, it can't be a light bulb blowing out.

    2. Re:Let's see Watson... by Alioth · · Score: 1

      I doubt it's anything to do with the "bulb". That kind of light will either be a sodium or mercury discharge lamp, and unlike tungsten lights (which do tend to fail with a flash, as the elecricity arcs when the filament breaks) there is no filament to break and cause a brighter than normal arc.

    3. Re:Let's see Watson... by jafiwam · · Score: 1

      I haven't come to a conclusion yet about the streak.

      But the light itself looks like it is from an oily-two stroke smoke coming from an idling boat motor is rising up around the lit light and causing a glow. You can see it comes up at an angle starting up from the lower left on the other side of that dock. A smokey exhaust would reflect the light like that.

      So it's light scattered off normal smoke one would see at a dock, not an explosion or impact.

      The streak could be just about anything, a bug, a hair, a development artifiact, etc.

    4. Re:Let's see Watson... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Most bulbs blow out at the time they are switched on. Therefore the bulb can well be dark at the before image. Of course if it is lit at the after image, there's something wrong.

      Fortunately the before and after images are available (no, I didn't get the order wrong, someone else did :-)). AFAICS the lamp was dark in both cases.

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  60. Re:Solution posted by Scarblac · · Score: 1

    Read better. That's the solution to this APOD.

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  61. I know what this is... by gustgr · · Score: 1

    It's the GoldenEye!

  62. Only flat in the photo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks odd to me. Is a straight line on a photo going to be a flat trajectory (even near the edges of the photo)? I would have thought it was a problem with the film.

  63. strange streak by ctour · · Score: 0

    It's clearly swamp gas being reflected off of a lower thermal atmospheric level, illuminated by Mars. There is nothing to see here, move along. The only real thing I can think of is that it is something in front of the camera that is small and out of focus. Maybe a spider hanging on to a balloon web floating by in front of the camera.

  64. It's a death ray by ites · · Score: 1

    The photograph shows a flash of illumination, not an explosion. The lamp was inspected, the bulb did not work but there was no physical damage.

    A meteor that hit and caused a flash would have left some external marks. Not a meteor thus.

    Perhaps a photoshop? A simple answer, but somehow less than pleasing.

    No, what we see is the trace of a death ray, shot by a military satellite, able to take out lamp bulbs without any collateral damage. Dear god... these things could be circling above our heads as we speak... focussing their deadly beams on us...

    Luckily there is an obvious and well-tested solution, which consists of a triple layer of aluminum foil wrapped securely around the head.

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    1. Re:It's a death ray by coachvince · · Score: 0

      Quote from above post-
      The photograph shows a flash of illumination, not an explosion. The lamp was inspected, the bulb did not work but there was no physical damage.

      My issue with this-
      If there was no physical damage, the lightbulb would function (unless emotional damage disables lightbulbs?). Therefore, according to my non-collegiate logic, the lightbulb was physically damaged, but the damage may not have been visible.

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  65. Flying rod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a flying rod. Maybe the camera just caught the streak.

  66. Perhaps... by gantos · · Score: 1

    Maybe we're all looking at this in reverse. Perhaps something at the top of the light pole ejected an object via a small explosion, resulting in a faintly detectable smoke trail leading away from the pole.

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  67. Answer by Severious · · Score: 1

    Official response.

    Notice the dark smear does not go all the way to the lamp post. My theory is it is a smog trail from a plane taking off or landing from an airport just across the bay. The smoke near the light pole is from a boat at the pier warming up its engine, and the sun is reflecting off the lamp post.

    It was really my 1/5 scale remote controlled F-22 testing its air to surface missiles.

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  68. No way by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's clearly an artifact. If the flash at the end of the streak was something "out there", it would have to have either hit the water or the light. The after pic shows no waves and the pole is unharmed--there's no even any "smoke" left. It's hard to judge how much time has passed, but it can't have been more than a few seconds. (On the far right is a speeding motorboat and he only gets a little ways between each frame.) With no fragments or smoke just a moment later, it has to be an artifact of some kind.

    1. Re:No way by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      Actaully, I see a good deal of smoke around the light head. It's pretty obvious that the smoke is being emitted by the lamp. However, we'd have to see the other photos before and after to determine when the smoke first appeared. (Note that smoke is a white plume around the head of the lamp. It's extremely obvious.)

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    2. Re:No way by dangermouse · · Score: 5, Funny
      It's clearly an artifact.

      Yes, an ancient, alien artifact, pregnant with long-dormant, world-ravaging evil, which will no doubt unleash terrible plague and death and destruction the world over, consuming the entire human race in an unimaginable apocalypse, only possibly averted by some unlikely everyman hero who has heretofore been overlooked by society but who will, no doubt, be immortalized by his deeds on the day the evil is returned to this artifact and banished forever.

      Clear as day. It's right there in the photo.

    3. Re:No way by elhaf · · Score: 1

      I suspect that the streak is an artifact, caused by the light of the streetlight exploding. The before and after of that streetlight are slightly different if you look at them zoomed in. The smoke is clearly present in the "during" picture, but without the light source of the explosion itself, it might not be visible on the white-noise background of the sea.

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    4. Re:No way by ultrasound · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, additional analysis here shows a slightly more energetic explosion than the original image suggests.

    5. Re:No way by The+Spanish+Ninja · · Score: 1
      "...unleash terrible plague and death and destruction the world over..."

      So. . . You're saying it's from Mars? Filled with incurable bacteria we have no cure for?

      Sorry, couldn't resist.

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    6. Re:No way by brian0918 · · Score: 1

      He's talking about smoke in the "after" picture, not in the picture with the streak. There's no smoke in the after picture: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0412/strang eafter_pryde_big.jpg

    7. Re:No way by Hooptie · · Score: 1
      Actually, it looks to me like something behind the trees could be causing the smoke which is then rising up beside the pole.

      Hooptie

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    8. Re:No way by Rei · · Score: 1

      I think we should all suggest this the Mythbusters to have them try and recreate this one. It should be fun, at the very least, to have them shoot high speed rocks and large amounts of electricity at a street light to see whether the effects are consistant with this photo.

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    9. Re:No way by bitchell · · Score: 1

      That can't be smoke in the picture it is under the light the smoke would have risen. If you compare the before, dureing and after shots you can see that there is very little breeze blowing from the movement of the plants and water.

      If it were smoke then the flash would be quite prolonged for it to move that far.

    10. Re:No way by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Quickly, we need an aging action hero!
      Australia!
      MEL GIBSON TO THE RESCUE!

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    11. Re:No way by Hrdina · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think that one came from the George Lucas expanded edition of the original.

    12. Re:No way by Ginnungagap42 · · Score: 1

      Quagaars!

    13. Re:No way by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      Hard to tell how fast the boat was moving. You'd think the wake would be more visible if it was moving fast. What we need is the actual time between frames from the photographer.

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    14. Re:No way by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      "Yes, an ancient, alien artifact, pregnant with long-dormant, world-ravaging evil, which will no doubt unleash terrible plague and death and destruction the world over, consuming the entire human race in an unimaginable apocalypse"

      You mean like George W Bush^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HOsama Bin Laden?

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    15. Re:No way by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      Actually, it looks to me like something behind the trees could be causing the smoke which is then rising up beside the pole.

      It looks like the pole is just in the way, and the flash and the "smoke" are both on the water.

    16. Re:No way by Drathos · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen any lights like that explode, but I have seen several transformers short out and/or explode. Every time, there's lots of light from the sparks, but very little smoke. At the distance that the light pole seems to be, the small amount of smoke generated would probably not be very noticable.

      However, there does seem to be some sort of smoke rising from the base of the light pole.

      Your "speeding motorboat" doesn't look like it's got a significant wake, so it can't be going that fast. As these pictures were taken for time lapse purposes, there could be a fairly significant gap between the pictures.

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    17. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sore loser.

    18. Re:No way by Zardus · · Score: 1

      Its not expanded, its re-re-remastered!

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    19. Re:No way by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      "...unleash terrible plague and death and destruction the world over..."

      So. . . You're saying it's from Mars?


      Worse. It's from Texas.

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    20. Re:No way by BrianH · · Score: 1

      Actually it MAY NOT BE SMOKE. It's late afternoon, heavily overcast, and within 20 feet of the water surface so we can reasonably expect that the local humidity would be pretty high. Anyone who has ever seen war photography should be familiar with the concept of shockwaves creating momentarily visible cloud formations on their surface as the suspended water vapor is compressed.

      What you are seeing as "smoke" may actually be the side view of a momentary bow shock created by whatever exploded.

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    21. Re:No way by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

      You spent way too much time on that pic-- even the reflection in the water-- GET A LIFE! Or a job...

    22. Re:No way by slash_noodle · · Score: 1
      Thanks for the 'Red Dwarf' reference (LMAO)

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    23. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, you're not going to get me to click on a .cx!

    24. Re:No way by Tongo · · Score: 1

      The street lamp shot first in the expanded version...

    25. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but this is the picture that Lucas REALLY wanted to take.

      He's very sorry that you saw and fell in love with the first picture, but you will love the new one or else you will not be allowed to look at any of them. Now please stop talking about the original picture.

    26. Re:No way by elronxenu · · Score: 1

      No way they can say that Earth shot first.

    27. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      it has to be an artifact of some kind.

      Gosh, you mean ... ?

      Has someone informed ma and pa kents yet ?

    28. Re:No way by wtansill · · Score: 1
      Yes, an ancient, alien artifact, pregnant with long-dormant, world-ravaging evil, which will no doubt unleash terrible plague and death and destruction the world over, consuming the entire human race in an unimaginable apocalypse, only possibly averted by some unlikely everyman hero who has heretofore been overlooked by society but who will, no doubt, be immortalized by his deeds on the day the evil is returned to this artifact and banished forever.
      Nope. It's SCO's lawsuit disintegrating...
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    29. Re:No way by Psychofreak · · Score: 1

      I second the need for the time between images per the photographer. Since the unmodified images are supposedly posted the time may be able to be found.

      Motorboats produce significantly less wake on plane than when moving slowly.

      Ultimately there is not enough information about the setup to make any conclusion.

      Phil

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    30. Re:No way by randomblast · · Score: 1

      Just because you have severe mental scarring from a previous experience doesn't mean you have to take it out on an entire TLD!

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    31. Re:No way by mr+breakfast · · Score: 1

      I would be surprised- I'm sure I remember them saying that the chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one.

  69. Lensing of sunlight through the clouds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like the sun is being lensed through the clouds in some way to create that optical effect. Not exactly sure how, though.

  70. Wrong picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your 'solution' is for a different, unrelated photo.

  71. Cats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I off base here?

    what you say?
    obviously, this is sign of we getting signal

  72. Today, a strange streak... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    appeared in my underpants.

    Depends - In Corea, they're only for the elderly.

  73. Airplane contrail by drizst+'n+drat · · Score: 1

    I have observed this phenomena before when a jet, leaving behind it's contrail, flew between the lower cloud level and the clear sky above. If you look at the picture, the sun is illuminateing the clouds from the right, with a the streak appearing on the left. The plane therefore bisected the path causing the shadow to occur. Now the question is, what was the interval that the pictures were taken in the before and after shots. I have seen this to last a few minutes until the contrail dissipated significantly to no longer produce the shadow.

    1. Re:Airplane contrail by grape+jelly · · Score: 1

      The interval is 15 seconds. Thus, it can't be a contrail (inadequate time for dissipation). In fact, the plane probably couldn't have travelled as far as was necessary to generate a shadow that long.

    2. Re:Airplane contrail by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1

      That was my first impression as well. The shadow of the contrail wouldn't have been visible long, if the sun was behind a cloud.

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    3. Re:Airplane contrail by elliott666 · · Score: 1

      not true, i saw a shadow of a contrail that looked just like that and it lasted for at least an hour.

    4. Re:Airplane contrail by bmcdonald · · Score: 1

      The contrail does not have to disipate at all, only the light shining on it has to be obscured. If the sun shone through hole in the clouds it could create these effects and then they could disappear just as suddenly.

    5. Re:Airplane contrail by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1
      Yes, true. I've seen an airplace fly at high altitude, and leave no visible contrail. But the heat from the jet caused a visible contrail 'shadow', like heat rising from pavement on a hot day . The strange thing was, you couldn't see it by looking directly at it, more of a peripheral vision thing. It looked very similar to the picture.

      If, in the picture, the sun was only out for a few seconds during the picture, the shadow would have been visible as in the picture. That's exactally what I thought of when I saw that picture.

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  74. Re:Solution posted by LaundroMat · · Score: 1

    You're funny.

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  75. Re:Solution posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...is higher than that of water (1.337)." Leet indeed :)

  76. Ob. Men in Black quote by Zorilla · · Score: 1

    K: On a more personal note Beatrice, Edgar ran off with an old girlfriend, you're gonna go stay with your mom a couple nights then realize you're better off.
    J: Yeah, 'cause you know what? He never appreciated you anyway. In fact, *you* kicked *him* out and now that he's gone you're gonna go into town, go to Bloomingdales, find some nice dresses, you know, maybe find somewhere you can get, you know, a facial, and hire a decorator to come in here fast because... damn.

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  77. Cricket? by mmerlin · · Score: 1

    From the headling I expected this story to be about an exhibitionist at a cricket game.

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  78. It's a hair by irve · · Score: 1

    Come on, it's just a hair that flew in the wind near the camera so i's a bit out of focus...

    1. Re:It's a hair by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think the same thing. Nothing mysterious.

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    2. Re:It's a hair by Trillan · · Score: 1

      Yup.

  79. My solution by troon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OK, here's my solution. The light levels are fairly low: the EXIF data from the big image reveals that the Powershot G3 used 1/20s exposure at f/5.6.

    I reckon the streak and the blur are very, very close to the camera, and that the intersection with the streetlamp is conincidence.

    I believe that the mystery object is an insect flying "north-west" (i.e. towards the top left of the camera). The EXIF data tells us that the flash was fired, although goodness knows why any decent photographer would use a flash for that shot.

    The flash on most cameras fires at the beginning of the exposure time, and the insect is captured in flight and out of focus near the middle of the frame. It then continues flying for the rest of the 1/20s exposure causing the black streak.

    Where do I go to collect my prize?

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    1. Re:My solution by cephus440 · · Score: 1

      Your solution is very logical and possible.

      Fact is, we'll never know.

    2. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You win. Best explanation I have read so far.

    3. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so insects can still fly straight after having a giant flash pop in their eyes?

    4. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get some fruit flies and recreate the shot.

    5. Re:My solution by HarvardAce · · Score: 1
      Can you still walk straight if you suddenly close your eyes?

      No fair if you can't already walk straight due to alcohol.

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    6. Re:My solution by DrMindWarp · · Score: 1

      Sounds very, very convincing to me.

    7. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may be correct .. it can be sort of proven if it's shown that there is a slight curve in the trajectory .. i've never seen an insect fly in a straight line.

    8. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Lets make some assumptions about your answer.

      Based on the size of the abberation, the bug would have to be fairly small. We'll say no bigger than a housefly.
      Houseflys move at about 4.4mph.
      If it was moving at top speed, that's 10 cm (3.9 inches) that it flew in 1/20 sec.
      My question is, using trig and the size of lightposts in Australia, how far away from the camera is your bug and does the size of the flash jive with the size of the bug at that distance?

      Also, why is the white pattern around the lightpost symmetrical about the axis of the dark streak? Wouldn't a bug flying sideways in the picture be asymmetrical in relation to its flight path?

      I think it's something to do with the reflection of the sun off of an off-frame airborne object.

    9. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting


      You guys have such wonderful imaginations. The fellow who described it as a photographic artifact is as close as any of you get.

      Note that a line inscribed from the sun to the flash at the postition of the light pole is at right angles too the black streak.

      This is whats commonly known as a ''sun dog'', or lens flare, though it is produced in this case from the reflection rather than the sun itself.

      I reached this conclusion after using photoshop CS with the Genuine Fractals scaling plugin on a G4 powermac to enlarge the picture over 500%. Though there was some lossiness as the reflection area was blown up nearly to screen size, it is clearly a reflection off of the light fixture at the top of the pole.

      Gimme back my prize :P

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    10. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is definitely what happened. Look closely, and you can see a ghostly apparition of the bug illuminated by the flash. It even clearly has wings sticking out to each side!

    11. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would agree.

      If you look at the large version of the photo. Not only is there a bright flash, but there is a slight outline. ( bug shaped, I think so )

      It's faint, but it is noticable. If I could post an image I would show it higlighted, but ./ doesn't allow that. It shaped like a candy corn with the flash at the top( body ), and thin projections toward the upper right and lower left ( wings ).

      Looks like a fly to me.

    12. Re:My solution by superdifficult · · Score: 1

      Swap the insect for a strand of the photographers hair blown into the shot by the wind and I'd buy it.

    13. Re:My solution by dave420 · · Score: 1
      Just assume it is something from space. We know the exposure time. We can see that whatever it was covered a massive distance in 1/20s. I mean, we can see it covered a distance nearly 1km long. That road is far away, and we can see a great distance into the sky. 20km/s? that's pretty quick. If it was something going through the athmosphere at that speed, you'd hear it, and you'd DEFINITELY see something where it hit, regardless of size.

      Of course, I know nothing, so this could all be bollocks.

    14. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, but I see smoke, explain the smoke...

    15. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See this post

    16. Re:My solution by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I for one welcome our new Insectoid Overlords.

    17. Re:My solution by Scorchio · · Score: 1

      I reached this conclusion after using photoshop CS with the Genuine Fractals scaling plugin on a G4 powermac to enlarge the picture over 500%.

      Ah, well there's your problem: you need to use the surveillance tape enhancement system from CSI. Grissom & Co will not only find the true explanation, but they'll give you the license plate and a photo of the pilot of the UFO that struck that lamp post after miscalculating his last superluminal speed jump.

    18. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A giant flash of light is different than just closing your eyes. Flashes of light can be much more disorienting. I've never heard of anyone giving themselves a seizure by quickly blinking their eyes.

    19. Re:My solution by jridley · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is whats commonly known as a ''sun dog'', or lens flare

      Careful, sun dogs and lens flares are two completely different things. Lens flares are caused by internal reflections inside the lens. Sun dogs are caused by the sun's light hitting ice crystals in the atmosphere and are visible to the eye.

    20. Re:My solution by jridley · · Score: 1

      I doubt the photographer was there. It was an automated camera, probably tethered to a computer. I've set up my Canon S30 to just sit and take photos every 5 seconds all day long when doing time-lapse work.

    21. Re:My solution by troon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, why is the white pattern around the lightpost symmetrical about the axis of the dark streak? Wouldn't a bug flying sideways in the picture be asymmetrical in relation to its flight path?

      Wings.

      A camera flash lasts very approximately 1/1000s, or 1/50th of the exposure of this shot. You won't see much movement during the flash duration, although some of the blur may be explained by that at suh close range.

      Note also that the dark streak does not extend to the edge of the frame. The illusion of something flying in and hitting the lamp post is just that - an illusion.

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    22. Re:My solution by khallow · · Score: 1
      yeah, but I see smoke, explain the smoke...

      He did. If his explanation is correct, it would be an out of focus moth caught in the flash and just coincidentally lined up with the light pole.

    23. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what if the streak came from the clouds then that means it was travelling at mach 29,507!!!

      certianly they are aliens as the sonic booms would have killed everyone there...

      or I might be a stupid as you making WILD assumptions from a 2d photograph.

      I'll take my last statement.

    24. Re:My solution by khallow · · Score: 1

      Makes sense though wouldn't it be brighter rather than dimmer? Maybe the picture has been doctored a little (say to remove a certain lens flare) and the dark streak remained.

    25. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not smoke. It's the body of the bug moving the distance during the course of one frame. That means there is motion blur. Also it's too close to the lens to be sharp, even more blurrier.

    26. Re:My solution by Doctor+Crumb · · Score: 1

      that would be bollocks, as if it were a 'streak' showing how far a bright object moved during the exposure time, the streak would also be bright. Assuming it *is* a fast moving object, the dark area is likely a 'smoke trail' or similar. I agree that if it were an impact the guy should have heard something.

    27. Re:My solution by sharpone · · Score: 1

      I like this solution. Notice how the dark line gets lighter as it approaches the north-west. This would imply slower insect flight, reflecting more light, creating a darker line. As the insect accelerates, the line gets lighter.

    28. Re:My solution by stuffman64 · · Score: 1

      What about an object 3 inches away (and thus out of focus) passing in front of the lens? It wouldn't have to be moving very fast at all. To me, it looks like a bug flying across the field of view; the "explosion" actually being the out-of-focus insect coincidentally lined up with the light post (as suggested in a previous post). Since there is no way to judge the depth of the object in the image, you cannot say exactly how fast it was going.

      Look at the picture more closely. The bright "explosion" is the head of the insect, the "smoke" being its wings and thorax. Just my $0.02

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    29. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, as the exposure is only 1/20th of a second...

    30. Re:My solution by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 1

      One freeking fast insect. Lets say the insect was travelling at 10 mph (~15 ft/sec) so in 1/20 of second that is only around 9 inches.

    31. Re:My solution by Moderatbastard · · Score: 0
      This would imply slower insect flight, reflecting more light, creating a darker line.
      Reflecting more light wouln't make it darker. It would make it ... more light. Like, you know, lighter.

      However, if it's darker than the background sky, then slower will indeed equal darker.

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    32. Re:My solution by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Huh? Without knowing at least two of the following: the angle of view of the lens, the distance to the insect, the size of the insect - you can't tell how fast it was going.

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    33. Re:My solution by stu72 · · Score: 1

      uh.. if the insect was close to the lens, close enough to get hit with the flash, 9 inches is surely enough to fly out of frame

    34. Re:My solution by wsanders · · Score: 1

      >>> Where do I go to collect my prize?

      I modded you up, you greedy so-and-so. Sheesh, isn't that good enough for you people?

      Best explanation so far IMHO.

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    35. Re:My solution by stuffman64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Definately. Check out this image of a bug, though in somewhat more focus. Notice the characteristic black streak as in the "meteor photo?" The "mystery" object is nothing more than a bug which just happens to be flying in the right place at the right time.

      Also, I did some Photoshop work (inspired by a previous post), and despite the arguement that it is a perfectly straight line, I tend to disagree. IMHO, here is definately some deviation to it, as the parallel lines in my image show (though it's not very good). See it here.

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    36. Re:My solution by hanche · · Score: 1

      Why any decent photographer would use a flash for that shot? It happens easily with those little cameras, you just forget to readjust the setting after taking some flash pictures. Especially with the flash set to automatic you might not notice for a long time, since it won't fire in daylight. And if this was a series controlled by a computer, the photographer might not have been around to notice. Or there was enough daylight left that the flash wasn't that noticable.

      As for the prize, it is quite possible I was before you. I posted the solution to the other discussion site around 12:30 European time, before it got hosed. (But maybe it got hosed so bad I won't be able to prove it. Oh, well, never mind.)

    37. Re:My solution by hanche · · Score: 1

      Uh, the original discussion site was on nightskylive.net, which got hosed. The new forum is at www.badastronomy.com. It looks just like the old one, but messages posted on nightskylive.net seem to be lost.

    38. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wings. OK, clearly I'm a tard who didn't think of that. Why would the wings appear such that this is a top down view of the bug? I don't know of many bugs that barrel roll. Tip, yes. Go perpendicular to the earth, no.

    39. Re:My solution by HerbanLegend · · Score: 1

      Take a look at this picture:

      Here
      I achieved it using an emboss filter in Photoshop. You can clearly see two sets of lines, a wide region of pixels that are depressed in the image. This can't be a flying object - it has to be some other kind of effect, only the topmost edge of which we see visually in the picture.

    40. Re:My solution by HerbanLegend · · Score: 1

      Oh wait... No. the pictures are shifted by accident.

    41. Re:My solution by mynickwastaken · · Score: 0

      See the bug in action with a little bit of photoshop filtering http://www.dvdc.de/fly/

    42. Re:My solution by mollymoo · · Score: 1
      Without knowing at least two of the following: the angle of view of the lens, the distance to the insect, the size of the insect - you can't tell how fast it was going.

      We can know it in terms of wingspans straight from the image. I make it about 20 wingspans. In 1/20th of a second. 400 wingspans per second.

      If the bug was 10mm bug that's 4m/s.

      So, any insect experts about? Is around 400 wingspans per second feasible?

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    43. Re:My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the difference comparison; nice thinking, very non-linear ;)

      This image of the wasp is also quite informative. I recall in another post some freak invoking the "rods"; notice how the photographic "trail" of this insect resembles the "rods"...

      In any case I guess I'm still convinced it's a photographic artifact resulting from a briefly available reflection. Not stubborn here, just leaning heavily on occam's razor.

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    44. Re:My solution by hanche · · Score: 1

      So, any insect experts about? Is around 400 wingspans per second feasible?

      I'm not an insect expert, but don't forget the wind, coming from the right and behind. A tiny bug carried by the wind could travel that fast, surely?

    45. Re:My solution by Justabit · · Score: 0

      well Dun Troon!

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    46. Re:My solution by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
      Wingspans? Is that, like, a metric unit?

      4 m/s seems a bit fast, to me. That's length of the lounge in a blink, I don't think they go that fast or they wouldn't be so easy to slap (it's not hard - try it). Wind assisted? A funny angle for the wind to be blowing - but then it could be a deflection over a wall or a mound on the ground[1] - but maybe that'd give a less straight path due to eddies and the like. Still, 4 m/s is about 9 mph, hardly a gale.

      It still could be a moth or something - some of them do have really shiny eyes. Maybe that gives us some clue - it implies (if it was a moth) it was in flash range (which isn't usually much for built-in units).

      [1] No, not that one.

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    47. Re:My solution by Junta · · Score: 1

      And then replied to undo your mod ;)

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    48. Re:My solution by stuffman64 · · Score: 1

      For anyone still reading this thread, I've decided to do another image comparing the difference between the photos. As you can see, the trail ends before it reaches the top-left of the image, meaning that the object must have been traveling from the lower-right to the top-left. Meteors wouldn't do that; case closed.

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    49. Re:My solution by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Are you sure the flash was used?

      Despite the old proverb, many cameras lie, telling you that the flash was used, when it really wasn't.

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  80. Swamp gas. by LouCifer · · Score: 0

    All right, Beatrice, there was no alien. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus

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  81. I saw something quite similar to this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw something quite similar to this once, when I was on the beach in Charleston, SC. It looked almost as if a plane had crashed into the ocean, but I believe it was just the shadow of a jet trail from the sun:

    http://misc.dhtns.com/trail_shadow.jpg

    However, it doesn't quite look like the sun was in a position to cast that shadow in the picture in question.

    -Elliott

  82. Martians by OwlWhacker · · Score: 1

    Well, it's obviously Martians.

    First they blow up your lightbulbs,
    Then they attack you,
    Then they catch your cold,
    Then you win.

  83. Alice Springs! Pine Gap! oh god, it's started... by Corf · · Score: 1

    Something has gone horribly wrong with the joint NSA/Aussie venture working with aliens from outer space in their secret Pine Gap research base. The interplanetary war has begun, started by agents of the United States Government. I, for one, am going to lay in a supply of iodine tablets and pure drinking water in anticipation of the fallout that is sure to come after we attempt to nuke their orbiting stealth battle platforms.

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  84. Cosmic Rays! by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

    Somebody find Reed Richards ASAP!

  85. a streak of dark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've heard of a streak of light, well this is just a streak of dark.

    Universal Theory of Dark

    For years it has been believed that electric bulbs emitted light. However, recent information has proven otherwise. Electric bulbs don't emit light, they suck dark.

    Thus we call these bulbs dark suckers. The dark sucker theory proves the existence of dark, that dark has mass heavier than that of light, and that dark is faster than light.

    The basis of the dark sucker theory is that electric bulbs suck dark. Take for example, the dark suckers in the room where you are. There is less dark right next to them than there is elsewhere.

    The larger the dark sucker, the greater its capacity to suck dark. Dark suckers in a parking lot have a much greater capacity than the ones in this room.

    As with all things, dark suckers don't last forever. Once they are full of dark, they can no longer suck. This is proven by the black spot on a full dark sucker.

    A candle is a primitive dark sucker. A new candle has a white wick. You will notice that after the first use, the wick turns black, representing all the dark which has been sucked into it.

    If you hold a pencil next to the wick of an operating candle, the tip will turn black because it got in the way of the dark flowing into the candle. Unfortunately, these primitive dark suckers have a very limited range.

    There are also portable dark suckers. The bulbs in these can't handle all of the dark by themselves, and must be aided by a dark storage unit. When the dark storage unit is full, it must be either emptied or replaced before the portable dark sucker can operate again.

    Dark has mass. When dark goes into a dark sucker, friction from this mass generates heat. Thus it is not wise to touch an operating dark sucker.

    Candles present a special problem, as the dark must travel into the solid wick instead of through glass. This generates a great amount of heat. Thus it can be very dangerous to touch an operating candle.

    Dark is also heavier than light. If you swim just below the surface of a lake, you will see a lot of light. If you swim deeper and deeper, you notice it gets slowly darker and darker.

    When you reach a depth of approximatley fifty feet, you are in total darkness. This is because the heavier dark sinks to the bottom of the lake and the lighter light floats to the top.

    The immense power of dark can be utilized to man's advantage. We can collect the dark that has settled to the bottom of lakes and push it through turbines, which generates electricity and helps push dark to the ocean, where it may be safely stored.

    Prior to turbines, it was it was much more difficult to get dark from the rivers and lakes to the ocean. The indians recognized this problem, and tried to solve it.

    When on a river in a canoe travelling in the same direction as the flow of dark, they paddled slowly, so as not to stop the flow of dark; but when they travelled against the flow of dark, they paddled quickly so as to help push the dark along its way.

    Finally, we must prove that dark is faster than light. If you were to stand in an illuminated room in front of a closed, dark closet, then slowly open the closet door, you would see the light slowly enter the closet; but since the dark is so fast, you would not be able to see the dark leave the closet.

    In conclusion, I would like to say that dark suckers make all our lives much easier. So the next time you look at an electric bulb remember that it is indeed a dark sucker.

  86. powershot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NASA is using a Canon PowerShot G3 to monitor clouds? Smells like a hoax to me.

  87. solution by cephus440 · · Score: 1

    "Meteor experts don't think it's a meteor. Atmospheric scientists don't think it's lightning".
    What do they know? Those stupid hacks still can't predict the weather tomorrow.
    It appears to be lightning hitting the dock light. Or a blown transformer w/ a projectile.

  88. Bulb failure by jkantola · · Score: 1


    My first interpretation was that the bulb on the light-pole simply blew up, and the resulting flash either messed the CCD to produce the streak (I've seen many similar artefacts on digital photos), or perhaps the streak is a kind of lens flare.

    1. Re:Bulb failure by davet · · Score: 1

      I think you're close. My pet theory is that the flash from a failing lamp lit up the image more-or-less uniformly (due to scattering from the air and/or lens). The "dark streak" is the shadow of some stucture between the lamp and the camera (either internal to the lamp or its mounting). The bright "smoke", which appears on the other side of the bright flash, would be the reverse, light from the flash reflected into the lens creating a flare.

      Just got the first page of the other form to load and it looks like one poster there (smith @ canada.com) had the same idea.

  89. A little image processing tells me by human+bean · · Score: 1

    that the dark streak and the bright artifact do not meet. The streak looks to be "above" the bright artifact, and continues past it.

    Also, the bright artifact has a brighter core that is vertical with respect to the rest of the frame. This could be consistent with a reflection off a cylinder such as a lightpole.

    It's probably just the reflection off my tinfoil hat.

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  90. Was the image taken digitally? by bchernicoff · · Score: 1

    They said the bulb was burned out when they examined the light pole. Light bulbs usually go out with a bright flash. Is it possible that the image was taken when the bulb flashed and the line is an artifact of the CCD? This last 4th of July I got some strange purple lines in images I took of fireworks going off. They weren't part of the fireworks flash, but artifacts from the camera having light metered to a specific level and then suddenly encountering a bright flash (this would be different than when the camera is expecting a flash from the internal flash).

    1. Re:Was the image taken digitally? by dcigary · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what I was thinking as well. The artifact is called a Vertical Smear and from what I can tell is usually a problem with video cameras, not still cameras. But, they never said what type of camera took this, so it very well could be what this is.

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    2. Re:Was the image taken digitally? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > They said the bulb was burned out when they examined the light pole. Light bulbs usually go out with a bright flash.

      An outdoor lamp like that is probably a sodium lamp. Those just go out, no flash.

  91. Particle passing across the film as the picture? by t0rc · · Score: 1

    It looks like it could be some sort of reaction by a particle passing parallel across the surface of the film when the picture was snapped. It would have to be a very slow moving particle though in order to produce that sort of effect though. Thats the only think I can think of however unlikely that is. If it isn't totally obvious, I'm totally talking out of my ass by the way.

  92. Width of the streak by Lonesome+Squash · · Score: 1
    It's VERY wide. If it is in fact as far away as it appears in the photo, the object (if there was one) must have been rather large. If it were a smoke trail from an object, it would have persisted. If it were a meteor it would have appeared as a LIGHT streak, rather than a dark one.

    tFA doesn't say how long the exposure was. If it was long, the possibility of a popping bulb at the same moment that a bug flew past the camera begins to seem more plausible.

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    1. Re:Width of the streak by hedge_death_shootout · · Score: 1

      That's a fast insect to make such a smooth long streak.
      Assuming an exposure time of 1/60th of a second, and a 30 degree angle of view, the insect flying at a distance of say 15cm from the camera, we can calculate using Pythagoras... ah sod it who cares.

  93. You call it a streak by stinkyfingers · · Score: 1

    I call it a skid mark. Whatever.

  94. Timestamps on the images by suso · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, here is something revealing, it seems that his before and after images are reversed:

    $ strings strangebefore_pryde_big.jpg | head
    uExif
    Canon
    Canon PowerShot G3
    ACD Systems Digital Imaging
    2004:11:25 15:23:11
    0220
    0100
    2004:11:22 18:53:07
    2004:11:22 18:53:07
    IMG:PowerShot G3 JPEG
    $ strings strange_pryde_big.jpg | head
    uExif
    Canon
    Canon PowerShot G3
    ACD Systems Digital Imaging
    2004:11:25 15:20:49
    0220
    0100
    2004:11:22 18:52:52
    2004:11:22 18:52:52
    IMG:PowerShot G3 JPEG
    $ strings strangeafter_pryde_big.jpg | head
    uExif
    Canon
    Canon PowerShot G3
    ACD Systems Digital Imaging
    2004:11:25 15:22:47
    0220
    0100
    2004:11:22 18:52:37
    2004:11:22 18:52:37
    IMG:PowerShot G3 JPEG
    $

    1. Re:Timestamps on the images by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You beat me to it - I noticed because of the changing shape of the clouds, though. Clouds don't move downwards and shrink.

    2. Re:Timestamps on the images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but look at the boat on the right in line with the dock; it's just barely visible in the after photo, but it is mostly obscured by the crane. That moves like the pictures are in the correct order.

    3. Re:Timestamps on the images by bcattwoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah, but this was in Australia. In the Southern Hemisphere clocks run counter-clockwise (well, still clockwise to them), so time runs opposite of what it does in the Northern Hemisphere.

    4. Re:Timestamps on the images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tbat confirms it. it was a blip in the space-time continuum...

    5. Re:Timestamps on the images by suso · · Score: 1

      Haha, I was waiting for someone to make a joke like that. Or someone to say something about the picture having to do with alien activity which caused time to move backwards.

    6. Re:Timestamps on the images by zenofjazz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More importantly, both the "before" and "after" are taken AFTER the "strange" shot. anyone care to comment?

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    7. Re:Timestamps on the images by geekboy642 · · Score: 0

      "Clouds don't move downwards and shrink."

      This is insightful?

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    8. Re:Timestamps on the images by breon.halling · · Score: 1
      That's what I thought initially, as well. I'm going to assume, though, that I was looking at the wrong timestamp value:

      [From grandparent, emphasis mine]
      $ strings strangebefore_pryde_big.jpg | head
      uExif
      Canon
      Canon PowerShot G3
      ACD Systems Digital Imaging
      2004:11:25 15:23:11 -- Date Time
      0220
      0100
      2004:11:22 18:53:07 -- Date Time Original
      2004:11:22 18:53:07 -- Date Time Digitised
      IMG:PowerShot G3 JPEG

      I was assuming the date/time tag was the date and time of the photo, but maybe it's just the date/time of writing it to a JPG?
      So, in summary, if the date/time original tag is to be believed, the sequence went thusly:
      1. strangeafter_pryde_big.jpg -- 2004:11:22 18:52:37
      2. strange_pryde_big.jpg -- 2004:11:22 18:52:52
      3. strangebefore_pryde_big.jpg -- 2004:11:22 18:53:07
      So the before and after shots are reversed, but the mystery pic still occurred between them.
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    9. Re:Timestamps on the images by thisissilly · · Score: 1

      Why the heck are you running "strings"? Use jhead instead, if you want to pull out Exif info. You can even pull out and save the small jpg thumbnails your camera uses on its LCD.

    10. Re:Timestamps on the images by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, you're looking at the timestamps from a post processing session, when he took the screen captures from his time lapse series in whatever video editing software he was using. Since the "flash" frame is more interesting he grabbed that one first (hence its earlier timestamp), then grabbed the surrounding two a few minutes later which makes sense.

      The second set of timestamps are obviously the ones from the camera that took the original time lapse images since they're separated from each other by 15 seconds in both cases. Although "before" and "after" are clearly mislabeled- before should be after and vice versa.

    11. Re:Timestamps on the images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You can even pull out and save the small jpg thumbnails your camera uses on its LCD.

      Why? You've got the processing power to make a new thumbnail easily. Does the camera know something that you don't about how to crop the thumbnail? What's the advantage?

    12. Re:Timestamps on the images by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      Does the camera know something that you don't about how to crop the thumbnail? What's the advantage?

      Speed. If the image contains a lot of data, that data must be copied off the device to create the thumbnail. So, in order to preview the image in order to decide if you are going to upload it; you first have to upload it anyway. ;-)

    13. Re:Timestamps on the images by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Aha, I think you're right. Looking at how the big shining cloud moves, it does look like the pics are mislabeled.

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    14. Re:Timestamps on the images by valentyn · · Score: 1

      ACD Systems Digital Imaging? That's the photo editing package at www.acdsystems.com, right?

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    15. Re:Timestamps on the images by suso · · Score: 1

      Why the heck are you running "strings"?

      Uh, because I didn't know about jhead. But beyond that, sometimes doing strings on things helps give better clues than interpreting programs can. strings is more generic and just shows me everything. Humans can often see patterns that computer programs cannot.

      Its the smae rseaon why you can raed tihs snetcnee, but a cpomtuer wloud hvae trbloue wtih it.

  95. Re:Solution posted by SystemF · · Score: 1

    That solution you posted is for an entirely different photo and it seems, entirely different phenomena.

  96. Re:Solution posted by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1, Funny

    While his explanation seems plausible that does not account for:

    1) the slight gray streak of what appears to be smoke in the picutre

    2) why the light no longer works

    The answer to the second issue could simply be one of those quirks where the bulb had reached its end of life at approximately the same time the picture was taken.

    While the author is certainly more knowledgable in the area he talks about than I am, I can't say I can agree with his conclusion. The flash as shown in the photo appears to be more consistent with the effect a lightning strike has (i.e. a bright flash).

    Further, if you look closely at the picture, you can distinctly see what appears to be a puff of whitish-grey smoke surrounding the light pole in question. This would also be consistent with a lightning strike. I know this because I observed the after-effect of a transformer outside my parents home getting hit by a lightning strike years ago. Even though I looked out the window seconds after the strike there was still a bit of smoke hanging about.

    The fact that there is no noticable damage to the pole can be explained by using the electrocuted pickle example (get out your CSI DVD in case you're wondering what I'm talking about).

    Finally, there is no rainbow effect noticeable in the photo compared to his example.

    Just some food for thought (or beer if you like).

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  97. Light Post detail by coniote · · Score: 1

    If you compare the "before" picture against the "after" one, you'll notice that the tip of the light post where the flash is in the picture looks like smoking. I assume that it was, indeed, a micrometeorite which hit the light post.

  98. Streaks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Korea only old people get streaks - Uh..wait, crap, - scratch that..I just disproved my hypothesis. Time to do some laundry!

  99. Lots of Meteorites hit Australia yesterday by Shanes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Se here for some reports.

    1. Re:Lots of Meteorites hit Australia yesterday by ozbird · · Score: 2

      They're news reports of the same fireball reported on the east coast of Australia, two weeks after the streak photo was taken in Darwin.

      Move along - nothing to see here.

  100. I have an answer... by chinton · · Score: 1

    The streak and flash is the discussion server crashing and burning under the weight of the mighty /.

  101. Re:Solution posted by dubious9 · · Score: 1

    Umm... that's not the POTD that we are talking about, but rather another that he has posted. The pictures are not even close. Did you make it past the first sentence?

    Troll or karma-whore? You decide.

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  102. Duh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's just Kirk and the gang returning with the whale so that the alien probe will stop destroying Earth. You can't see the rest of the ship because it's cloaked.

    Duh?

  103. Explanation: Chinese Military Projects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Chinese have an army of spies in the USA, and one of their top targets is technology related to unmanned aerial drones. The photo snapped in Australia is likely an image of a experimental Chinese drone gone awry. The Chinese launched the drone off the coast of Australia and attemped to use it to spy on Australian civilian targets.

  104. Ionization? by Mundocani · · Score: 1

    I wonder if it's some sort of lightning strike. Not one with a spark (not in the photo anyhow), but simply the column of ionized air terminating (and destroying) the street light. There are a lot of clouds in the sky so maybe there's a sizable charge built up and it's discharging to the streetlight, which is a tall, metal, grounded object.

    I've never experienced lighting directly, but I recall something about the air ionizing before the strike, which is what creates the path for the electricity to follow.

    This photo is part of an automated sequence, so perhaps the electrical strike happened just a moment before the image was taken, or perhaps the ionized air was enough to destroy the light without an actual 'spark'. Without witnesses it's hard to say whether it was lighting and, as many have questioned, what's the condition of the streetlight now?

    1. Re:Ionization? by LouCifer · · Score: 0

      The info with the picture says that the image isnt present on the picture before or after. And that the glass atop the post was not damaged, although the bulb wasn't working.

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      Religion is for people afraid of going to hell.
    2. Re:Ionization? by Mundocani · · Score: 1

      Still makes me wonder if it was some sort of ionization strike. I know they said that it wasn't lightning, but can you have the ionized air form without having an actual strike occur? If so, then the gray column could be caused by the ionized air column and the flash is the bulb being energized and burning itself out from the charged strike. Those tall voluminous clouds sure look like the sort that could build up a nice charge. A strike would probably be very quick and not show up in the before and after photos. Again, I'm no meteorologist and don't know if the ionization could develop without being followed by an actual spark. Also, lightning follows an erratic path but does the ionized air which preceeds it, or could the ionization follow a straight line consistent with the gray streak in the photo?

    3. Re:Ionization? by Cragen · · Score: 1

      One item that has not been yet mentioned, and supports (to the best of my knowledge, which would fit in the period at the end of this sentence) is that a lightning strike is actually multipart - the ionization trail up and the lightning strike down. Maybe there was the ionization UP but the lightning, for some reason did not come down. Maybe it just forgot. (If I remember the TV documentary right. There was a research guy firing up these "lightning rods" to simulate ion trails. It was pretty cool. Slo-mo of strikes showed the two-phased event of a strike. At least for those. I have no idea if it happens that way everytime.) My original theory involved the pole that seems to be at the place of the flash. The flash and the lack of further information seems contrived. After all, we have to take the fellow's word that the explanation is true. That is not exactly the best first step in finding an explanation.

  105. Obligatory MIB quote by appelflapje · · Score: 0

    The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus. There you go. Case closed. :)

  106. Streetlight Blowing Up Overloaded the CCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simple, the streetlight gave up the ghost by blinking out with a bright flash. This bright flash in turn overloaded the CCD resulting in a streak in the photo.

    You can simulate this yourself by pointing your digital camera at a bright light. You should see all sorts of streaks running through the image.

  107. uh...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  108. Re:Solution posted by Ulexus · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Umm. That is the solution for a _different_ picture.

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  109. there it is! by JbirdUAH · · Score: 1

    i wondered where my Happy Fun Ball went!

  110. Um, holy shit by daveschroeder · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your response makes you look *really* stupid, because the "solution" you just read has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE MYSTERY PICTURE IN QUESTION. Worse, every single other response to the parent - most of which were BEFORE you - recognizes that (though I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there, since it took you some time to write your response). The "solution" is talking about a completely different and unrelated picture!

    *Wow*.

    Thanks for a good laugh though.

  111. I apologize. It had to be done. by mooniejohnson · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our streaky and glowing new overlords.

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  112. Re:Solution posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    rofl. How you managed to give a detailed explanation on how the "solution seems plausible" when it was a solution to an entirely different picture/problem is beyond me.

    Typical /.'ers.

  113. Re:Solution posted by martingunnarsson · · Score: 0, Redundant

    No, that's for the wrong picture. RTF document before you link it!!

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  114. that does explain it by Savet+Hegar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If it was reflecting right back at the camera, it could certainly result in that line.

    It wouldn't reflect directly back, but at a slight angle. The light hitting the lense at an angle would make one side long. In this case....very long.

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    1. Re:that does explain it by BillyZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Line up the three images in order and tab through them. THe time between each image is very short. Therefore the "line" was in for an extreemly short period of time. To me, the line looks like what you would see had a string or hair passed in front of the lens as it were capturing that frame. The glint on the end could simply be something on teh end of it. First thing that comes to mind would be a spider

      "the spiders can fly by wire, called "ballooning". The spider raises her abdomen and releases a thread in the breeze that grows longer and longer until the upward lift is sufficient and the spider is lifted."

      perhaps not THAT particular spider.. thats just the first google link that demonstrates my point.

      so, sorry... there really is nothing to see here. Move along. No looking into the light thingy necessary.

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    2. Re:that does explain it by Moderatbastard · · Score: 0

      Angle shmangle - the light would have made a streak brighter than the background sky, not darker than it. Unless it was made of reversed polarity photons or something.

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    3. Re:that does explain it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No points are pointless.

    4. Re:that does explain it by fredorpaul · · Score: 1

      No they weren't that close. At this resolution it would only take maybe 10 seconds for that smoke to dissipate enough to not be noticeable in the photo. If you look at the pictures in sequence the lamp does look different after form before. My guess is photoshop. Well done but its a fake.

  115. I know what it is. by robyannetta · · Score: 1

    I remember seeing the same thing in The Omen.

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  116. photo by vulcanrob · · Score: 1

    Clearly some new Romulan weapon, obviously fired from that cloaked bird of prey. This area probably had a very high neutrino density.

  117. MOD PARENT DOWN by daveschroeder · · Score: 1
  118. I'm betting on the simple... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 1

    Blue chunk of iced poop falling from a plane.

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  119. YOU FOOLS! This is so easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is obviously the friction trail created by the hypersonic-speed flight path of the super-hero MICROMAN!

    Sheesh that was easy! What a bunch of morons! ;-D

  120. It's obvious... by Gottjager · · Score: 1

    Frozen airline poo. You can all stop thinking about it now.

  121. I for one by Torontoman · · Score: 1

    Welcome our new Tractor-beam producing overlords.

  122. sun beam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just a sun beam through a tiny hole in the clouds

  123. My Questions by ErroneousBee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1. Is the trajectory staight, or does it drop slightly. Putting a ruler up against my screen indicates it drops slightly, but that doesnt mean anything.

    2. Is it a flash, or is it a steady bright light (like what a meteor head would be). Need to know the exposure time for that info.

    3. Is there any sign of the trail in the after photo.

    4. How long is it before the after photo was taken?

    5. It the flash infront of, behind, or exactly congruent with the pole top.

    6. Is the trail wider at the top than the bottom. If it is, is this dispersion of smoke or paralax and the object was moving away.

    7. Is the image film or digital.

    8. What is the white stuff? Shock front? Something disintegrating? Why is it that funny shape?

    9. Was the light working previously? When was it last known to be working? There may be pictures of it from the night before.

    Well, thats my questions. I think its a meteor.

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    1. Re:My Questions by hshana · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just curious, how do you decide when to use a question mark and when not to?

    2. Re:My Questions by ErroneousBee · · Score: 1

      I throw one of my large fat stuffed fingers in the general direction of the key, if it misses I give up.

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    3. Re:My Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      #2, #3, #4, and #7 can be answered by reading the EXIF information of the photos.

  124. I've seen those before... by Dutchmaan · · Score: 1

    Now obviously I could be wrong, but under the right conditions I have seen jets make shadows just like that...and the first time I saw one it kind of creeped me out too.

  125. Anybody else notice this? by cube00 · · Score: 0

    I thought this was kind of odd. The black streak ending in what looks like an explosion?

    Dunno..

    http://users.rowan.edu/~schwab17/pictures/strange. jpg

  126. Re:Solution posted by Minwee · · Score: 1

    Nah. The real aolution is here.

  127. EXIF info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    exif info from before, strange, after:

    strangebefore_pryde_big.jpg

    Model - Canon PowerShot G3
    XResolution - 180
    YResolution - 180
    ResolutionUnit - Inch
    Software - ACD Systems Digital Imaging
    DateTime - 2004:11:25 15:23:11
    YCbCrPositioning - Centered
    ExifOffset - 223
    ExposureTime - 1/20 seconds
    FNumber - 5.60
    ExifVersion - 0220
    DateTimeOriginal - 2004:11:22 18:53:07
    DateTimeDigitized - 2004:11:22 18:53:07
    CompressedBitsPerPixel - 3 (bits/pixel)
    ShutterSpeedValue - 1/20 seconds
    ApertureValue - F 5.60
    ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
    MaxApertureValue - F 2.20
    MeteringMode - Multi-segment
    Flash - Flash fired, auto mode, red-eye reduction mode
    FocalLength - 9.09 mm
    SubsecTime - 3682872
    FlashPixVersion - 0100
    ColorSpace - sRGB
    InteroperabilityOffset - 1587
    ExposureMode - Auto
    WhiteBalance - Auto
    DigitalZoomRatio - 1.00 x
    SceneCaptureType - Landscape

    Maker Note (Vendor): -
    Macro mode - Off
    Self timer - Off
    Quality - Normal
    Flash mode - Not fired
    Focus mode - One-Shot
    Easy shooting mode - Full Auto
    Contrast - Normal
    Saturation - Normal
    Sharpness - Normal
    Metering mode - Center weighted averaging
    Focus type - Manual
    Focal length - 0 - 0 mm (18688 mm)
    Flash details - Internal
    Focus mode 2 - 18208
    White Balance - Auto
    Sequence number - 0
    Flash bias - 544.00 EV
    Subject Distance - 384 mm

    File: - strange_pryde_big.jpg

    DateTime - 2004:11:25 15:20:49
    DateTimeOriginal - 2004:11:22 18:52:52
    DateTimeDigitized - 2004:11:22 18:52:52

    File: - strangeafter_pryde_big.jpg

    DateTime - 2004:11:25 15:22:47
    DateTimeOriginal - 2004:11:22 18:52:37
    DateTimeDigitized - 2004:11:22 18:52:37

    1. Re:EXIF info by Mad+Hughagi · · Score: 1

      Does the EXIF time info count backwards?

      before: DateTimeOriginal - 2004:11:22 18:53:07
      strange: DateTimeOriginal - 2004:11:22 18:52:52
      after: DateTimeOriginal - 2004:11:22 18:52:37

      This would imply that the before shot was taken 15 seconds before the strange shot, and the after shot was taken 15 seconds after.

      This seems like a reasonable amount of time for any particulate cloud to disperse. Mind you a bottle rocket seems a bit weak to launch on such a straight trajectory...

      Still seems most likely that there was some sort of projectile launched from the lightpost.

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    2. Re:EXIF info by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      They're in the wrong order, as has already been noted. Just look at the way the clouds move.

    3. Re:EXIF info by tkg · · Score: 1

      Look at the times again. According to that info the before image was taken 30 seconds *after* the after image.

      Something is definitely not right.

    4. Re:EXIF info by tkg · · Score: 1

      reply to self.

      Well, as has been pointed out by others, it only means the image sequence is reversed.

    5. Re:EXIF info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      reply to self

      i am a stupid loser.

  128. Stupid moderators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congratulations.

  129. reflected light by Savet+Hegar · · Score: 1

    It appears the "flash" is light reflecting off of the lightpost. The streak could easily be explained by the light hitting the camera at an angle.

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    1. Re:reflected light by ErroneousBee · · Score: 1

      There is also a bright spot in the water where the reflection might possibly be. Could test this by looking at other photos where the lamp is on, se it the lamp puts a reflection there too.

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    2. Re:reflected light by Savet+Hegar · · Score: 1

      I meant sunlight reflecting off of the light. I doubt the light would be bright enough.

      The lack of continuity in the other pictures could be the sunlight coming through the clouds for that one picture.

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  130. I've got it! by BHennessy · · Score: 1

    Another sighting of the Australian puma!

  131. Ball Lightning? by Slashdolt · · Score: 1

    It certainly looks very much like ball lightning to me. Googling "ball lightning" seems to confirm this, in my opinion.

    Unfortunately, ball lightning is often dismissed.

    1. Re:Ball Lightning? by OwlWhacker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's an interesting experiment, that you can do in your own home, to create 'ball lightning':

      jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/4wres/

  132. Skid marks of the Gods by dfn5 · · Score: 1
    SSIA

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  133. MOD PARENT! WRONG PICTURE! by quakeroatz · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Right solution, wrong picture!!

  134. MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While you're at it, mod this dickwad down for being the 17th person to point that out.

  135. MOD PARENT DOWN by rbarreira · · Score: 1

    That Aolution is the aolution to a completely different article ;)

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  136. Object hitting the water? by diakka · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I didn't notice this until I looked at the before and after pictures in sequence with the main picture. But it appears that the streak may be the trail of some object hitting the water. If you look where the streak meets the water, there seems to be something bright where the streak meets the water that is not in either of the other 2 images.

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    1. Re:Object hitting the water? by CodeHog · · Score: 1

      I agree. I zoomed in on the where the bright spot and it appear to be behind and slighly to the right of the pole. Not like it hit the pole, but the 'flash' simply covering up the outline of the pole. The 'flash' maybe the spray of water coming up from an object that hit the water. Perhaps a diving bird of some sort?
      Another interesting point, the end of the streak appears to curve rapidly downward at the end. It is not a straight line into the water.

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    2. Re:Object hitting the water? by CodeHog · · Score: 1

      Next question: is it an object hitting the water or leaving the water? Has anyone seen a picture of a missle being launched from beneath water?

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    3. Re:Object hitting the water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It couldn't possibly be something leaving the water. The path it takes is so straight and nothing that leaves water takes that straight a path. Most missiles launched from underwater experience a split second or so of freefall before some secondary booster kicks in. Besides, there's no uber-bright trail from any booster. Gotta be something falling into the water at a very high speed.

    4. Re:Object hitting the water? by Stevyn · · Score: 1

      I see the bright dot in all of the pictures. I think it's a light on the bridge. The pole is so thin, however, it's hard to see.

    5. Re:Object hitting the water? by CodeHog · · Score: 1

      The path at the water is not straight. If you follow the trajectory in a straight line, it should end up closer to the middle point between the 2 poles. It goes 90 degrees just before hitting / leaving the water.

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    6. Re:Object hitting the water? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I think you qre not looking at the right spot.
      In the picture of the 'event' look at the tanker.
      count 3 poles of its aft. the third pole has a bright spot substantially brighter then the any other light.

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  137. gravy! by TRIEventHorizon · · Score: 0

    looks like slashdot has raped ANOTHER NASA server!

    Slashdot - 2
    NASA - 0

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  138. Its a bottle rocket by spike2131 · · Score: 1

    The black streak is exhaust.

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  139. Let's just hope that /.ers cannot create anything by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

    in the sky

    I would rue the day I walk outside, looked up, and saw goatse.....

  140. The two are not nesicarily related by genner · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else think it may just be a weird coincidence. The bulb was not borken but it wasn't functional either. Lightbulbs often emit a flash of light right before they burn out. The conrail streak may not be related to this, quite possibly from some fireworks. The streak just happend to line up with the lamp. Then the camera caught the lamp just as it flashed before it burned out.

    1. Re:The two are not nesicarily related by hool5400 · · Score: 1

      Fireworks are only allowed to be used in the Northern Territory on the 1st of July every year. They don't sell skyrocket type fireworks here, only small mortar, and small whizzy things. Nothing that would reach the height or distance that the trail suggests.

      Two related strange events in a short time frame are much more likely than two independant events.

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  141. Re:Solution posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're the 16th person to point that out. RTF replies before you add a new one!!!!

  142. It's simpler than all that. by kc01 · · Score: 0
    Two things are at work here:
    A plane's contrail and sunset.

    I suspect the contrail dispersed after the shot was taken, before the next NASA shot was snapped.

    As for the sunset- Surely people have seen mountain peaks and clouds which are still in full sunlight, while the surface is in shadow?

    As much as I'd like there to be a more interesting resolution to this, I just don't see it.

  143. Re:Solution posted by gowen · · Score: 1

    You're the 10th person to point that out. Illiterate or simply couldn't be bothered to read the other replies? You decide.

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  144. Sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even after so many people pointed it out, it was continuing to be modded up, and was +5 as I posted, and for a couple minutes after. Since I was posting at +2 karma bonus, there was a chance of some moderators seeing my post sooner in threaded view vs all the 0 and +1 posts.

  145. Might be by rootnl · · Score: 1

    A "laser" attached to a friggen shark.

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  146. Those pictures have got to be in the wrong order! by PhilHibbs · · Score: 4, Informative

    Take a look at the way the clouds are moving - I've never seen clouds billowing inwards.
    before
    "the" picture
    after

  147. Re:Solution posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ummm. Well done. You're the 15th person to point that out.

  148. It's a Boeing Bomber... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check your local Joe Dirt type and see if he's lugging around a "meterorite." Check for space peanuts too.

  149. Re:Object hitting the water? YOU FOOLS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Look...I told you fools earlier...its MICROMAN using his hypersonic power of flight to dive into the water to fight the evil of Dr. Atlantcus and his submerged menions!

    Jezz!

  150. Re:Solution posted by mordors9 · · Score: 1

    Since you have been outed as a fraud, it appears that my own solution is now just as valid. I believe it is a consortium of Martians coming to sign the closing papers on the other recent Slashdot articles. Remember we are making Parks and designing suitable housing for the Red Planet.

  151. anti-crepuscular ray by NewtonTwo · · Score: 1

    This is the same phenomena you see from the sun

    http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/atoptics/ray1.htm

    At the moment of instantaneous flash, a source of ambient light travels towards the camera, same as the sun, in parallel rays. Since the camera, observer, is at a distance, these rays seem to diverge as they approach, think of railroad tracks that appear closer together further down the track, but are nonetheless parallel.

    Unlike the suns crepuscular rays though, which we see as brighter owing to the fact that most are blocked by clouds when we observe crepuscular rays, only a very tiny fraction of the rays are blocked in this photo, possibly by a section of the pole the flash occurs from. Thus, the ambient lighting is slightly increased, except along the parallel ray that is blocked.

    I have not come up with a valid source of the flash, I must admit the smoke confuses me there, but my best guess it a transformer or bulb.

  152. beware!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pr stunt for http://www.whitenoisemovie.com

  153. Re:Solution posted - Mod parent DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You're the 13th person to point that out. Maybe read the previous replies before adding one.

  154. Re:Solution posted - Mod parent DOWN by rbarreira · · Score: 1

    And even with 13 people reporting it, it seems it's not enough judging by the moderation

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  155. Da Plane!... by simpl3x · · Score: 1

    Was a filter of some sort used? It looks as though it's a plane, since there is an artifact by the street light, not something hitting the street light. It appears reflected to me. The path is darker than the object.

  156. again and again and again... by dangil · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our alien overlords

  157. do do do do DOO do by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 1

    I want to believe ;)

  158. What's the big deal? by mazarin5 · · Score: 1

    I don't see what the fuss is about, it's just where the texture repeats!

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  159. Re:Those pictures have got to be in the wrong orde by jace78 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, those pictures are out of order. Check the time stamp on the pictures.

  160. Curvature of the Earth by borgasm · · Score: 1

    It's rather odd that the streak is a perfectly straight line.... You would think that if "something" is in the atmosphere, it would curve, possibly degrade in trajectory (stupid friction)

  161. BTW by simpl3x · · Score: 1

    Is there a casing surrounding the cammera, and is it metal? That could account for the "perspective" shift. It appears like a view camera, where a tilt can control perspective.

  162. Its a known problem ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... with the firmware version 1.02 of the G3 camera devices. Please upgrade to solve the problem.

    1. Re:Its a known problem ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We'd rather think of it as a Feature of the 1.02 revision.

      -AC

  163. my guess by hypergreatthing · · Score: 1

    I think it's some space debris falling at a high angle. Metal in origin, a part of it would have survived through the atmosphere and traveled at high velocity, turned into a molten form and splashed down in the lake. As you can see, besides the flash (from the impact) there was steam from the water. The dark streak that was left behind was the burning of impurities in the metal itself. I bet if they took divers out to that location and checked the bottom of the floor they would find a fist full of metal that's fairly un-corroded from the rest of the junk there.

    1. Re:My guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that you are on the right track. However, according to the APOD caption the light was inspected and all that they found was that the light was not working. Apparently there was no sign of the bulb having exploded, but perhaps it would be good to talk to whoever inspected it just to be sure.

      Like you I also think that the streak is the effect and the blub's blowing is the cause instead of the other way around.

      Also, the "smoke" looks almost like lighthing to me. Perhaps it's an electrical discharge caused by the loss of the circuit as the bulb blew, but the current still flowing for a few milliseconds?

      EMS

  164. Speculation be drowned- What about the Streetlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone think to check the streetlight for damage ?

    sheesh

  165. It's a goldang ray gun by AppyPappy · · Score: 1

    I bet the Bush Administration was trying to wipe out a nearby gay bar with a laser weapon and missed. Instead, it struck that light pole. Ole W's prolly got him a Death Star up there in space that he's using to shoot everyone who doesn't live in Jesusland. And I'm pretty sure Australia didn't vote for Bush. So they are gonna get it for sure.

    And don't try to tell me different cause I'uns went to college. Well, NC State anyway.

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    1. Re:It's a goldang ray gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'uns went to college. Well, NC State anyway.

      Did you get your job with John Deere yet?

  166. Obligatory Simpson Reference... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to be the first to welcome our new black streak overlords.

  167. Summary by iowaporter · · Score: 1

    Here's what I have gathered from the other posts: 1. Something from "out there" - unlikely, because there would be some residual effect in the next photograph. However, a small enough object may not make that big of a splash or smoke. Additionally, if the object struck the street lamp, it would have caused damage (which it didn't). If the object didn't strike the pole, then it created the flash coincidentally directly behind the pole. 2. Problem with camera, et. al. - unlikely, because none of the other images show a similar problem. Also, the "problem" would have to have created three coincidental effects. a) the streak, b) the flash, and c) the smoke. 3. Streak came from the street lamp - unlikely, because the street lamp shows no damage. I can see a bright flash from a burning out bulb causing a streak on the film, but that does not explain the smoke. Other than image doctoring, have I missed anything?

  168. That... by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 1

    Was JUST a demonstration of my powers. Next time I will hit downtown Enid Oklahoma unless I receive the sum of One Million Dollars. Muhahahaha Muhahahaha Muhahahaha!

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  169. Notpron by My+Iron+Lung · · Score: 1

    Maybe this is just APoD's game of NotPron (deathball.net/notpron/). We're supposed to take the image and raise the contrast or look at it under the moonlight or something so we can reveal a hidden message that leads to the next mystery. 0.0001% of the population make it to Level 2.

  170. OMG the sky is falling!!! by gosand · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Meteor experts don't think it's a meteor. Atmospheric scientists don't think it's lightning

    Paleontologists don't think it is a dinosaur, NASA doesn't think it is a spacecraft, financial experts don't think it will have an adverse effect on the economy, lawyers could be preparing a lawsuit on behalf of Bigfoot for IP infringement, the FDA has said it could have adverse side effect, the White House has declined to comment. Currently the photo is on sale at eBay with the high bid at $785.

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    1. Re:OMG the sky is falling!!! by danielobvt · · Score: 1

      Dont forget Congress: Congress has formed a comittee to study the phenominon and will release a 1000 page report in 3 years detailing current theories.
      Nah, they would never do that.....

  171. BULLSHIT ALERT by TFGeditor · · Score: 1, Interesting

    One of the original stories on this http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11 483286%255E13762,00.html credited the photo to amateur photographer Wayne Pryde. The bit about cloud "monitoring" appears only in the APOD story. WTF?

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    1. Re:BULLSHIT ALERT by Minwee · · Score: 1
      In your article:
      "I was taking a series of time-lapse pictures of the build-up of clouds," Mr Pryde said.

      In the APOD post:
      "Meteor experts don't think it's a meteor. Atmospheric scientists don't think it's lightning. The photographer insists that the streak and flash on the above image has not been created digitally. So what is it? Nobody is sure. APOD's editors do not claim to know - one purpose of posting this image is to mine the eclectic brain trust of APOD's readers to help see if some unusual phenomenon was caught serendipitously. The strange features were captured on a series of images intended to monitor cloud changes in the background. Images taken just before and after the above frame show no streak or flash. The light pole near the flash has been inspected and does not show any damage, although the light inside was not working. If you think you know what is going on, instead of sending us email please participate in an online discussion. If a convincing argument or consensus is reached, the answer will be posted on APOD at a later date."

      Now, what was that you were saying about "cloud monitoring" being only mentioned by APOD?

    2. Re:BULLSHIT ALERT by feargal · · Score: 1

      WTF indeed.

      May I quote the ninth paragraph of the article you linked to:

      "I was taking a series of time-lapse pictures of the build-up of clouds," Mr Pryde said.

      In the case that news.com.au altered the story since you read it, I sincerely apologise for the insult which you are about to receive.

      How about you RTFA you post next time, idiot.

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    3. Re:BULLSHIT ALERT by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      There is a difference between "taking a series of time-lapse pictures of the build-up of clouds" by an amature (as proclaimed in the second article) and "images intended to monitor cloud changes." The latter (by use of the word "monitor") suggests some sort of remote camera setup snapping frames at programmed intervals (as opposed to a human photographer), and further suggests some sort of official (weather service, science station, etc.) purpose.

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    4. Re:BULLSHIT ALERT by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      How about you learn the significance of placing a word in quotes. The operative word is "monitoring" (usually done automatically/remotely) as opposed to simply taking a sequence of photos (by a human in real time).

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    5. Re:BULLSHIT ALERT by zerOnIne · · Score: 1

      The pictures were taken automatically by the digital camera 15 seconds apart.

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    6. Re:BULLSHIT ALERT by ozbird · · Score: 1

      Taking time lapse photos is "monitoring".
      From Dictionary.com:
      monitor v tr. ... 3. To keep track of systematically with a view to collecting information.

      P.S. Ironic .sig

    7. Re:BULLSHIT ALERT by feargal · · Score: 1

      I apologise; I called you an idiot as I thought you had not fully read the news.com.au article. I did indeed miss the significance of your use of quotes. I believed your motivation for quoting the word was that you felt it was not the correct term for the activity being pursued. I retract my earlier statement, and I apologise wholeheartedly for any upset I may have caused you.

      Now, as we're being fastidious, the word "monitoring" does not imply automation as you assert. Some monitoring may be automated, but not all monitoring is automated. To assume otherwise is a syllogistic fallacy. Similarly, the word "monitoring" implies absolutely nothing about remoteness.

      In fact, the APOD article does not provide any information whatsoever about the circumstances of the monitoring carried out, except that it included a "series of images".

      In contrast, the news.com.au article states that the photographer "stood near the Darwin Cenotaph on The Esplanade and looked down to Fort Hill Wharf".

      It seems too that "monitoring" is not the only word you have problems with. You point out that news.com.au credited the photo to "amateur photographer Wayne Pryde", implying that the lack of this information in the APOD post is suspicous.
      There is nothing in Mr. Pryde's status as an amateur photographer that precludes him from studying cloud formations. An amateur is somebody who engages in an activity as a pasttime.

      Perhaps you find it incredible that Mr. Pryde studies cloud formation in his spare time. If this is true, I would first point out your selective quoting of the news.com.au article; it described him as a "keen amateur photographer" (emphasis mine). I would also suggest you look at other techical/artistic fields which enjoy amateur participation. For example, there are people who write computer software in their spare time. There's a news website called Slashdot which often has articles about this particular phenomenon.

      Of course, your suspicion may be caused by the deep ambiguity regarding Mr. Pryde's status as a photographer in the APOD post. After all, they recklessly referred to him as "the photographer", so I see the potential dilemma. You may sleep soundly tonight however: I checked the email address provided for Mr. Pryde and the domain, crowneplazadarwin.com.au, is registered to Darwin International Hotels. Assuming Mr. Pryde is an employee there I think one can also assume that studying cloud formations is not part of his job description. Furthermore, his address, itsupport, and the fact his name appears on the whois data implies that his professional expertise is in IT.

      This would tally with the description in news.com.au of Mr. Pryde as an "IT expert".

      In the case that English is not a native language to you, I sincerely apologise for the insult which you are about to receive.

      How about next time you call bullshit, check where you are standing. Idiot.

      Of course, the photo may indeed be a fake, but the points you raised are irrelevant. The most obvious red flag is the reference of nameless experts: "meteor experts" and "atmospheric scientists" in the APOD post; "photographic experts" in the news.com.au article.
      Another red flag is that no explanation is given for the exclusion of a meteor or lightning as possible causes. These are good reasons to doubt the authenticity of the photograph. I will monitor developments with interest.

      BTW, nice sig - "Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever."

      I assume you're aiming for immortality.

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    8. Re:BULLSHIT ALERT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      those phrases mean the same thing, you idiot.

  172. You Can All Stop Speculating Now by stinkyfingers · · Score: 1

    There's a link at the bottom of the page that explains the picture. http://space.mit.edu/~lewin/apod/

    Come On. Read to the bottom!

    1. Re:You Can All Stop Speculating Now by jjohnson · · Score: 1

      That's the solution for a previous challenge, dumbass. If you'd read it you'd know that.

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  173. A meteorite fast enough to vaporize on impact... by Goldenhawk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Somehow I doubt that a meteorite that was going fast enough to vaporize on impact would leave a *dark* steak in the frame. Secondly, if it was big enough to leave that wide a dark streak, it would make a MUCH bigger impact than that little flash. But moments later, there's no visible sign, even in the water.

    I personally own a similar Canon G-3, and I've never seen a dark streak on the image, even when shooting pictures with a strong point light source (as was speculated for a blowing-out light bulb). In fact, with the G-3, a well known problem is "purple fringing" around bright lights. None of that here, so the bright splotch is probably not that bright.

    I personally subscribe to the "bug in front of the flash" theory.

    (Question: one post suggested the EXIF data shows the flash fired. Why would a halfway decent photog leave the flash on for a distance shot like this? It just risks illuminating the dust between you and the subject matter.)

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  174. An SCO Spokesman: by R.Caley · · Score: 1

    ``We don't know what it is, but it's ours and everyone who has looked at the photo now needs an SCO licence for their brain.''

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  175. Nothing to see here.. by supachupa · · Score: 1

    It is merely a weather balloon. Now look at this light for a sec.

  176. slashdotted .....aaaaargh!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why cant we host the image at slashdot itself ? why do we have to down site after site ? hmmm... copyrights maybe a problem. but cant we do something abt it ?

  177. Can you see the fringes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks to me like there are a series of fringes parallel to the streak (and below) suggesting an optical origin.
    My hypothesis is that sunlight happens to reflect off the pole and at exactly the time of the photo
    hits the camera (sun is moving). The streak is from the camera lens scattering this sunlight...

  178. Debug the camera... by Cocoa's+Puff · · Score: 1

    It looks like a lightning bug to me. If you lower the brightness and increase the contrast of the image, you can see a shape below the flash that looks like a body with wings. The body of the bug caused the dark streak, and he flashed us just as the shutter was closing.

  179. Something to do with the Submarine? by syntap · · Score: 1

    There appears to be a surfaced submarine to the right of the impact area. Maybe this was one of those space-based "throw metal at the ground" weapons being tested on the sub.

    1. Re:Something to do with the Submarine? by Deinhard · · Score: 1

      I don't think that is a submarine. However...everyone assumes that this streak is coming from the upper left. What if there's a submerged submarine and something was just launched?

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  180. Ninja Koala by wickedj · · Score: 1

    They just got tired of the lights running all night and couldn't sleep.

  181. Dude, it's beyond tired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll be complaining about hanging chads next. Get over it. Get over yourself.

  182. Fireworks by JWG · · Score: 1

    seems to be the simplest answer to me, something like a bottle rocket could make a flash like that when it explodes and a tiny, almost indistinguishable cloud of smoke as a tail. I am surprised such a hoopla is being made over this, when there are so many possible explanations for the phenomena pictured.

  183. First post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yaaay!!!

  184. I, for one, Welcome our streaking overlords. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    eom

  185. the 45 degrees angle by meshko · · Score: 1

    of impact suggests to me that this is probably artificially launched.

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  186. Where was the KABOOM!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...There was supposed to be an Earth Shattering KABOOM!

    o.O

  187. Airplane debris by Seska · · Score: 1

    I think it's a piece of debris from an airplane. Perhaps a chunk of ice, which might explain the trail. Do any airplanes discharge their toilets while airborne?

  188. Hey Santa, don't drink and fly by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 1

    See? How difficult was that?

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  189. From TFA by allism · · Score: 1

    "The light pole near the flash has been inspected and does not show any damage, although the light inside was not working."

    1. Re:From TFA by Ubergrendle · · Score: 1

      "The light pole near the flash has been inspected and does not show any damage, although the light inside was not working."

      I interpret that comment to mean that the light fixture housing is not smashed, and no physical damage has occured. That doesn't mean that the lighting element isn't burnt out, which still supports my original hypothesis.

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  190. Fire the Laser by BlakeCaldwell · · Score: 1

    Number two... fire the laser!

  191. Some programmer at Canon is laughing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...I mean, what engineer writing firmware for a digital camera could resist putting in an easter egg like that???

    I know that I sure wouldn't be able to resist. I'd have a list of options to spring on the unsuspecting photographer, like:

    • bunny-ears added to people in the scene
    • green Matrix-like tint
    • tiny UFO in background
    I mean, how much fun would that be, if one out of every million photos taken with that model camera had a little UFO up in the corner of the sky? It would be the coolest thing to watch people go nuts trying to figure that one out.
  192. Venus by JustOK · · Score: 1

    Now, look at this little red light. Its just swamp gas from a weather balloon reflecting off of Venus.

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  193. Shadow by FuzzyDustBall · · Score: 1

    I see shadows like this all the time. An object small cloud or something casts a shadow that shadow can be seen as a line of darkness against a light background. Just so happens the shadow is falling on the lighs sensor making it come on. Still 1 in a million picture though.

  194. Flare by leenoble_uk · · Score: 0

    Did someone in the boat let of a flare?

  195. BFG or a rocket by pdamoc · · Score: 1

    It could be a rocket impacting a dude with invisibility or maybe a weird kind of BFG-10K (the original has red trails you know)
    High end machine too. (judging from the rendering details)

  196. I usually don't do this, but by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    This story is two weeks old.

    LK

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  197. Ummm sorry.... by Derek · · Score: 1

    ... that was my orbiting brain laser. Sorry for the confusion.

    -Derek

  198. Position of boats/ships by JustOK · · Score: 1

    Anyone look at the position of the boats. Specifically the little one nearest the flash. Position doesn't seem consistent between the before/during/after.

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  199. server by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Itsa 'nother slashdotted server going up in a smokey poof

  200. just a flower by stm2 · · Score: 1

    Somebody put a little flower in front of the camera. It is so close that is out of focus.

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  201. Can you tell me what I'm looking at? by swb · · Score: 1

    I see a bright light in upper right corner of the photo. The line is going from upper left to bottom right, and appears to have nothing to do with the bright light; the line itself seems to have nothing to do with any flash of light.

  202. Do they even connect? by The+Spanish+Ninja · · Score: 1

    Now, my eyes certainly aren't the best, too many years squinting at computer monitors, but it looks to me like the black streak doesn't even touch the flash, but instead vanishes over the horizon, somewhere in that land mass. Also, if it was something hitting the pole, it would have been damaged, and if it had hit the water, later photos would have shown the splash/ripples. Well, maybe. It would depend on the length of time between photos, I guess. It doesn't extend to the end of the photo, either, but goes into some of those clouds on the left. The flash looks like it has some kind of aura around it, like when they remade the first Death Star blowing up, but again, it's hard for me to see, and it could just be the light reflecting off a ripple in the water. I think the flash it just the light blowing, however. I don't know. If the black streak were in more than just the one picture, I would just chalk it up to a distant vapor trail from a jet taking off or something. If it's something flying through the air, it'd have to be travelling pretty damn fast to be so straight, whether it's going up or down. My best guess would be at it travelling up. I should think that if it were falling, it'd have more of an arc to it. Really, we'll probably never know what it is.

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  203. Not reversed by elhaf · · Score: 1

    If you follow the speedboat on the far right, it is heading inbound. It moves a little to the left, then ducks behind the pier except for a small bit of the tail end of it. This happens in proper sequence. Likewise the tugboat moves just a little to the right in each successive picture.

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    1. Re:Not reversed by Racter · · Score: 1

      Watch the skies.

      Or more specifically, the clouds.

      Plus, someone's discovered the same thing by examining the image metadata timestamps.

  204. If it's a bug then... by 4ginandtonics · · Score: 1

    This is more evidence to corroborate the theory that mutant bugs are taking over the earth.

    Here's more evidence:

    http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/mshnvm/volcanocam/faqs /2 0020924-mutant-fly.shtml

    1. Re:If it's a bug then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  205. Some numbers by Shillo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ok, I did some work on this...

    First, EXIF fields in the photos... something you should look at first.

    Camera: Canon PowerShot G3
    Date and Time (original): 2004:11:22 18:52:52
    Exposure Time: 1/19 sec.
    Aperture: f/5.6

    And for the photo After:
    Date and Time (original): 2004:11:22 18:52:37

    So the photos were taken with 1/19 sec. exposure, every 15 seconds.

    I took the two images into GIMP, substracted them, brightened the result a lot (using Levels) and ran it through despecle. First, the lamps do look perfectly identical between the photos (or there'd be a spot around the lamp where it changed shape). In fact, the only bright bits that remain (apart from the sea reflections) are the flash and the streak.

    The streak looks conical, at 1-1.5 degrees (I measured roughly using GIMP). It ends before the edge of the picture. It's about 1200 pixels long, in fact. The street lamps are 60 pixels long... Assuming that a street lamp would be on the order of 5-10 metres high, you get about 100-200 metres streak.

    The cloud is VERY visible on the difference image; it has yellow-orange central spot and 2 pure-white spots to the sides; this seems consistent with a central fire and a smoke circle.

    Now I substracted the before and after image and brightened them the same way. I *think* there is a visible dark spot at the place where the white cloud was; however, the image is so noisy that it could just be my imagination.

    I think that the flash and the cloud were from the blown lamp. They dissipated rapidly, but there could be traces left... I'd have to do much better image processing to be able to tell.

    I have no idea whatsoever what the dark streak could be. It doesn't look like a CCD sensor problem - overloaded CCDs leak brightness straight up, as far as I know. I also don't know of any lens flare that can darken the photo. It could be smoke, in which case something would be hitting the street lamp. But that would've caused lots of visible damage.

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    1. Re:Some numbers by Hooptie · · Score: 1
      Why does the "After" photo have a timestamp BEFORE the mystery photo?

      Hooptie

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    2. Re:Some numbers by Shillo · · Score: 1

      Heh, you just made me recheck. And yes, you are right, and no, I didn't swap the files. Aparently the filenames on the original site were borked a bit.

      > identify -verbose strangeafter_pryde_big.jpg | grep Time
      Date and Time: 2004:11:25 15:22:47
      Exposure Time: 1/19 sec.
      Date and Time (original): 2004:11:22 18:52:37
      Date and Time (digitized): 2004:11:22 18:52:37
      SubsecTime: 533
      User Time: 0.460u
      Elapsed Time: 0:01
      > identify -verbose strange_pryde_big.jpg | grep Time
      Date and Time: 2004:11:25 15:20:49
      Exposure Time: 1/19 sec.
      Date and Time (original): 2004:11:22 18:52:52
      Date and Time (digitized): 2004:11:22 18:52:52
      SubsecTime: 834
      User Time: 0.460u
      Elapsed Time: 0:01
      > identify -verbose strangebefore_pryde_big.jpg | grep Time
      Date and Time: 2004:11:25 15:23:11
      Exposure Time: 1/19 sec.
      Date and Time (original): 2004:11:22 18:53:07
      Date and Time (digitized): 2004:11:22 18:53:07
      SubsecTime: 828
      User Time: 0.470u
      Elapsed Time: 0:01

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    3. Re:Some numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they digitize them backwards ... maybe time just works differently in that part of Australia ...

    4. Re:Some numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the coreolis effect works backwards down there, why can't time? :)

    5. Re:Some numbers by Flave · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, if the streak is 100-200 metres and the exposure is 1/20 second, this means that the object was travelling:

      100 m = 100 * 3.3 * 20 * 60 * 60 / 5280 = 4500 mph
      200 m = 200 * 3.3 * 20 * 60 * 60 / 5280 = 9000 mph

      So it was travelling between 4500-9000 mph. Now, considering that the speed of sound on a standard day at sea level is around 750 mph, shouldn't there have been a pretty serious sonic boom?

    6. Re:Some numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Assuming that a street lamp would be on the order of 5-10 metres high, you get about 100-200 metres streak"

      Also assuming that the streak and the lamppost are the same distance from the Camera. That's big unfounded assumption btw.

    7. Re:Some numbers by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Date and Time (original): 2004:11:22 18:52:52
      Exposure Time: 1/19 sec.
      Aperture: f/5.6

      And for the photo After:
      Date and Time (original): 2004:11:22 18:52:37


      Original 18:52:52
      "After": 18:52:37

      ?

      Clearly, it's a visual aberration caused by the wayback machine's time vortices.

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    8. Re:Some numbers by aonifer · · Score: 1

      The after photo was taken before the "during" photo. Clearly streaks like this are a result of moving backwards through time.

    9. Re:Some numbers by Alsee · · Score: 1

      Why does the "After" photo have a timestamp BEFORE the mystery photo?

      Obviously the mystery object caused a brief and localized temporal inversion.

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  206. this is a reflection, or an object near the lens by number6x · · Score: 1

    This is either an internal relection within the camera, or an object so close to the lens it is out of focus.

    My first guess is the internal reflection of some mechanism behind the camera lens. It looks just like the reflection you see of yourself when looking out of a window.

    The line is too straight to be a moving object out by the shore. It is more likely a string or stick with something on the end close to the lens. (the string would be swinging to make it straight.)

    I'm going with internal reflection.

  207. forgetting the simple answer... by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

    a line of dust on the film/ccd... dots and patches occur on most digital slrs if lenses are removed in non sterile surroundings often enough...

  208. Not the street lamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, after looking at the 3 photos (before, during, and after) it can't be hitting/from the street lamp. Here is why: 1. Before and After both show street lamp intact. 2. Flash obscures street lamp, so it occurs in front of the lamp or from the lamp. 3. It appears that the smoke is behind the lamp (at least partially) since the lamp is not obscured as much as the water. What I originally thought it might have been was a transformer exploding from the lamp and the camera doing something strange to cause the dark line. But since the lamp looks no different in the before and after photos, this likely isn't the case. Based on the lack of a smoke cloud in the after picture and the odd fact the smoke appears to be falling in the event picture...

  209. It's not what you think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This image, whatever it is, is not an image of an impact. If something had impacted the light pole there would be trails of debris streaking away from the impact in the opposite direction. If you look at the large image, there appears to be smoke or steam surrounding the light pole. Being a photographer my first instinct is that something happened to the light, or something in the light, that caused a bright flash. The line is merely an optical artifact of the event. There are probably other lines, but the visible one is the only one that runs entirely along a neutral gray background where a slight change in contrast would be very visible.

  210. A missile? by jedrek_burakiewicz · · Score: 1

    Do you think it couuld be a stray military missile? Such things sometimes happen (remember suspicions about a TWA airplane being hit by a rocket?), and compare streaks with those on pictures below: http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/aminet/pix/vehic/missil e.jpg http://www.sterett.org/images/miscphotos/Dave%20Bi lak/DB-Missile%20trail.jpg http://www.cpf.navy.mil/rimpac2000/images/missile3 .jpg

    1. Re:A missile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha! Must have been the same missle that got TWA flight 800 right? Like that nutcase reporter claimed a shoulder launched Phoenix missle? The AIR launched 100+nm ranged THOUSAND pound missile?

      Hehe yeah maybe its a missile. Get out the tinfoil hats!

    2. Re:A missile? by mdvolm · · Score: 1

      It definitely looks like a missile to me. That also might explain why there is no apparent wake from the impact, kind of like when an olympic diver pulls off a great dive.

  211. The truth is out there by bkhl · · Score: 1

    Finally we have proof.

  212. Hair by chris_eineke · · Score: 1

    Looks like a human hair on the lense to me...

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  213. It's the memory chip. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since it is linear, could it be that the camera memory was mid-scan and the elements in the matrix were not fully refreshed due to a current surge or sag?

  214. Prototype already built... by ordep_mod · · Score: 1

    ...well fellow Slashdotters, from what I can theorize from squinting at the photo, it looks like someone has already built a prototype space elevator. First mentioned on Slashdot - here.

  215. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw something like this the other day! I was driving to get some food and when I reached a red light, I looked up into the sky and there was a black streak across the sky. It looked like an airplane con trail, except no puffiness, smooth, and black! I then crossed the intersection and pulled into Chickfila, and then looked backup into the sky, and could not find this streak at all, anywhere! That was the wierdest thing I have ever seen!

  216. Smoke by TheGrim · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one seeing smoke from the bottom of the lamp-post?

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

  217. flare gun shot off a boat by cyberb0b · · Score: 1

    Look, there are boats in the picture, there could be another one past the light pole, obscured by the trees. Maybe tied up to the low level docks you can see to the right of the light pole.

    Someone on the dock or in a boat behind the tree shot a flare gun out towards the water. The streak across the picture is an artifact because the flare was so bright.

    Now the real question is whether there was another flare shot from the grassy knoll?

    1. Re:flare gun shot off a boat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, I agree...its a signal flare.

      Damian

  218. After scrutinizing the photo for quite some time.. by sean.m.bober · · Score: 1

    The Department of Homeland Security has determined that this is definitely some sort of weapon of mass destruction.

    ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

  219. Shadow going up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe the light bulb in the lamp failed and created a bright flash.

    Maybe the streak is a shadow of the light fixture.

    So that the shadow is going UP from this bright light source...?

  220. It's a hoax by ivanmarsh · · Score: 1

    Anyone else notice that the smoke trail doesn't taper off as it gets higher into the sky? It's just as wide as it fades into the clouds as it is near the ground.Someone forgot to Photoshop in perspective. All this image needs is Bigfoot in the foreground and a UFO or two off in the distance... oh, and http://www.fark.com printed in the bottom of it.

  221. Impact trama, or lack thereof. by Mulletproof · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok, it's really simple.

    1) It's bright.
    Bright things moving though the atmosphere tend to be very very hot.

    2) It's durable.
    Things that make it this far down tend to be be fairly substantial in nature.

    So now we supposively have a bright, hot, durable object impacting a body of water at high speeds... THAT LEAVES NO TRACE AFTER IMPACT. Steam maybe? A ripple or two? Honestly, would somebody like to run a simulation on a superheated baseball sized rock slamming into the ocean at close to mach? Maybe a golfball to be conservative? Heck, I'm speculating the damn thing might explode just in temperature differential alone when it touches the water, if not angerly boil for a good long time.

    The only conclusion I can specuate where it may have been any substantial object falling from the sky is that one in a billion chance it actually fully vaporized a second before impact. Even so, you'd still have some sort of audio event at those speeds, I'm imagining.

    I'm going for visual artifact or an environmental lighting glitch myself.

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    1. Re:Impact trama, or lack thereof. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's no streak.
      It's a space station.

    2. Re:Impact trama, or lack thereof. by koick · · Score: 1

      Ah, yeah, like the photographer would have reported hearing a hella bang, and why didn't he walk over to the pier to look for anything??

    3. Re:Impact trama, or lack thereof. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if it was a BRIGHT object travelling across the scene during the exposure, it would leave a light streak, not a dark streak.

      Therefore, if the streak and the flash are created by the same object, then it was dark while it was falling, and created a flash only when it intersected the light pole (or the water behind the light pole). There is also a "glow" around the pole.

      The problem is that the size of the streak, combined with the speed, and the relatively small flash means that it couldn't have been very massive. If it's not massive, but it's large, then it should have a lot of wind resistance, and wouldn't be travelling fast.

      Here's another idea: something in the water behind the lamp fired a projectile and the object is moving up and left, rather than down and right. That explains the flash, the high speed, and a sizeable object. Still, doesn't really look like that's what it is.

      - RobinH

  222. "Wow" by i41Overlord · · Score: 1

    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no mod points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  223. Two-Dimensional Dilemma by VernonNemitz · · Score: 1

    Part of the problem is that with a single viewpoint, we cannot know how far from the camera the bright spot was really located. I think its intersection with the light pole is a visual coincidence, and that it is IN FRONT of the pole. Part of my reason for thinking this has to do with the so-called "smoke", which looks to me more like a side view of a supersonic shock wave. Part of that "smoke" is clearly in front of the base of the light pole. So, the distance between the camera and the pole should be inspected, for impact evidence.

  224. This is an very common phenomenon by Thagg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can see this dark streak almost every day in southern california, or almost anyplace that has contrails visible in the sky. When the contrail goes between you and the sun, you can see a dark band coming down from it. Watch for it!

    Basically, what you are seeing is the equivalent of a sunbeam, except that it's a shadow-beam. A sunbeam occurs when there is a small hole in the cloud, and the light going through the hole illuminates the dust particles and water droples in the air along the path of the light. If the light is strong and the background relatively dark, it is easy to see these sunbeams (or God rays.)

    Shadows through the sky are somewhat harder to see, because the contrast is not as great. When they are dramatic, as in this picture, you have to have the fortuitous situation of looking through a long, well defined slab of shadowed air, with well-lit air on either side. Airplane contrails are the perfect shadow source for this.

    Imagine a 3D volume of a shadow cast by a contrail. It is a long thin slab of shadowed air. If you are within that slab, and looking along it, all the air in that direction is shadowed, for many miles, so the contrast between the shadowed air and the surrounding air is strong.

    A good bit of the light around the shadow beam is not light scattered by dust or water droplets, but is just the same Raliegh-scattered light that makes the sky blue. The dark streak through the sky will be noticably darker and especially less blue than the surrounding air.

    As you can tell, this is one of my favorite (of many!) atmospheric optical phenomena. Once you start to look for them, they are quite easy to see. Occasionally you can see them from natual cloud formations or even topographical or architechural features when the conditions are just right.

    Thad Beier

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    1. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by DoorFrame · · Score: 1

      It does indeed look like a contrail now that you mention it. If it just lined up with a coincidentally exploding lamppost we'd be all set.

      It actually looks like there's something on fire below the lamppost and the smoke is curling up... don't know about that.

    2. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by ozbird · · Score: 1

      Nice theory, except that the camera is facing towards the Sun (look at the shadow of the wharf on the water), and there is no sign of a contrail or shadow visible on the before and after pictures (taken at 15 second intervals.)

      The Sun-angle also rules out a crepuscular (or anti-crepuscular) ray.

    3. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by corngrower · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You may well be correct in saying that the streak is a shadow of a jet contrail. But I still wonder why it appears only on this photo and not the previous or subsequent one. The 'flash' could just have been the sun reflecting off the glass in the lamp during the exposure. I've noticed this shadow phenomena myself.

    4. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by smccassar · · Score: 1

      My husband and I saw a straight band of shadow like this one a few years ago in Stockton, California. We were unable to see anything that might cause it. The phenomena was within our sight for about three minutes. However, we didn't see any flash at the base of it, as the bottom of the shadow was lost in the buildings of the city.

    5. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by Council · · Score: 1

      I don't believe it could be a contrail because it runs smack into the horizon without losing brightness. Geometrically, it doesn't seem right, though I could be wrong.

      Additionally, if you were in the shadow, the sun have to be along the line of the contrail. But the sun is off to the right, far from the line. So that's not possible. Though again, I could be missing something.

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    6. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by kindbud · · Score: 1

      It can't be the shadow of a contrail or anything like that. The Sun is located behind and to the right of the photgrapher. The shadow cast by a contrail should descend from the upper right to the lower left in this scene, not the opposite way as shown.

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    7. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by NewtonTwo · · Score: 1

      Why would the sun angle rule out anti-crepuscular theory?

      I haven't had time to look it up, but I wouldn't be too surprised if the luminence of an exploding transformer was similar to the sun.

      At the distance from light to lenss in this case, even a very small source could produce the same crepuscular effect as the sun.

    8. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that may explain the lamp failing. The "band" of shadow fell across the lamps daylight sensor, lamp tried to switch on and the bulb or compoent blows out. Maybe.

    9. Re:This is an very common phenomenon by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Not to take any credit away from your theory, but I thought I'd mention that jet-streams are actually a reasonably rare occurance in australia.
      Our atmosphere just isn't right for them - as opposed to europe etc, where the sky criss-crosses with them.

      I dont pretend to be a meteorologist, but I've onyl ever seen jet streams in australia when there are *no* cumulo nimbus' hanging around. (I'd imagine that you'd need more cirrus conditions for jet streams) ..so.. possibly, but unlikely in australia?

  225. Re:My solution: Rods by ginbot462 · · Score: 1

    I've heard of the same thing. Rods if you search on UFO stuff. There just bugs.

    http://www.ufotheatre.com/rods/rods.htm

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  226. It was a meteor, here's the link to the local news by Lachlan · · Score: 1
  227. Intergalatic Space Bypass by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 1

    That was easy next... Actually I think it is just a survey marker the heavy equipment will be here next tuesday.

  228. photoshopped image... by zebruh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maybe this will shed some light. It's a Photoshop "difference" between the before image and the mystery image, with a bit of levels adjustment to make it more obvious. http://img119.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img119&image=x2fst rangeprydebigdi.jpg

    1. Re:photoshopped image... by zebruh · · Score: 1

      In my opinion, it looks like a flying insect. Perhaps the camera's flash caught it at the beginning (or end) of its trajectory, and the dark streak is the rest of it, blurred and non-flashed. (This possiblity has already been discussed here)

    2. Re:photoshopped image... by d3cr33p · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, near the flash...I...am I the only one that can see a faint outline of....ELVIS! The king HAS returned!

    3. Re:photoshopped image... by sabernar · · Score: 1

      It looks kinda like a lightning bug to me. That's what I thought when I took a look at the large picture on APoD, and this difference image kinda confirms it in my mind.

      Of course, it could just be coincidence and it can just be an artifact like most people are arguing.

    4. Re:photoshopped image... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This looks like a satellite to me.

    5. Re:photoshopped image... by ekimminau · · Score: 1

      That clearly shows the Loch Ness monster from below and slightly to the right. It you look at it carefully this almost exactly matches the improper angle of the killing shot from the Macgruder film which which would lead one to believe Kennedy have fallen forward and the to right rather than back and to the left.

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    6. Re:photoshopped image... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe you mean the Abraham "Zapruder" film...

    7. Re:photoshopped image... by Alsee · · Score: 1

      Elvis? Don't be rediculous.

      It's obviously the Virgin Mary in the image.

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    8. Re:photoshopped image... by Suidae · · Score: 1

      Na, thats just a regular old cheese sandwich.

  229. Are you a pothead, Fokker? by i41Overlord · · Score: 1

    Yes, we ALL noticed it. That's what this entire thread is about!

  230. Eyelash or some other hair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's an eyelash or a hair or piece of fur flying through the air. For a second it lands on or is directly in front of the lense. Then the wind blows it on it's way again. The white part is the folicle (or whatever it's called) of the hair. It looks all blurry because it's right in front of the lense and isn't focused on.

  231. 2 things: light exploding and distant light house by tallbill · · Score: 0

    There is a barge that is going by on the right side of the picture near the bridge and the crane that is down. Way off in the distance behid this there is a light off on the horizon (on the far right of the picture.

    If you down load all three pictures into one directory and then use gthumbs (or any other slide show program) you can see the three pictures repeating in sequence.

    You will notice that the there is a small annular ring with thick lines coming from it right and down from the flash (almost on top of it).
    This same annular ring shows up in a small size on the next frame.

    My quess is that as this was late and the light levels were low, that there was a distant light house (that flash on the horizon?). The effects of the light from the light house are what may have cause some of what we see.

    I don't think that Ihave a full solution, but it seems to me that at least some of what we see is due to lens effects. Why else would the little saturn shaped annular region with 45d degree lines jump up and to the right on the next picture.

    You can really see this if you animate the pictures as well as the light on the horizon.

    One other note: There is no reflection on the water of the streak, but strangly it seems that there is another streak that parallels the first.
    It should reflect the first if it was way off in the air and not just a CCD effect. That is what it seems like to me, a CCD effect at the same time that a light on a pole exploded. And that just happened coorespond with the effect on the lens of the distant light house.

    So we have two things: A light exploding on a pole with a CCD effect at a 45 degree angle and
    a distant light house with a cycle that occasionally corresponds with the shutter of this camera.

    Does this sound reasonable?

  232. It's just something close to the lens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's something like a hair or spider web, so close to the lens that it's unfocused. Small things that close and out of focus usually show up transparent like that.

  233. photoshopped image... by zebruh · · Score: 1

    Maybe this will shed some light. It's a Photoshop "difference" between the before image and the mystery image, with a bit of levels adjustment to make it more obvious. http://img119.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img119&image=x2fst rangeprydebigdi.jpg

  234. Mystery solved by elhaf · · Score: 1

    But if the before and after pictures are swapped, then it still moves correctly, but in the opposite direction. And zooming in, I think I can see the wake to the left of the boat, which agrees with reversed photos. It's behind the dock, then about middle from dock to edge, then near the edge, moving right. It's telling that some of the street lights on the dock are on, and the picture is taken near dusk. Thus, the timing is such that the bulb tries to turn on, but blows.

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    1. Re:Mystery solved by DogsBollocks · · Score: 1

      One would assume that the light from the anomaly would have illuminated other objects nearby.

      I was trying to determine if the anomaly did indeed occcur on the light pole, if it did then we should be able to see the light bouncing off of the other nearby poles/objects.

      This image almost looks like a "set-up" there is no reflection of that light pole in the water because of the ground in the way.

      I agree though that right about the time of these pictures would be "lighting up time" so I could see the explosion occuring but the dark streak is a strange one.

      Have you noticed how all the pictures of UFO's are always grainy and out of focus, shame because I really want to believe.

  235. Duh by JohnnyBolla · · Score: 1

    It's an eSheep burning up on re-entry.
    Don't even pretend like you don't know what eSheep is just because you're all into Linux and shit.

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  236. C'mon by Krisbee · · Score: 1

    C'mon guys, haven't you ever seen a meridian from below before ?

  237. lol by i41Overlord · · Score: 1

    Good one.

  238. Image Analysis... by TyrelHaveman · · Score: 1

    I did some image processing on this image and discovered a couple things:

    1) The "streak" does not line up with the street light. If I draw a straight line right along the very bottom side of the streak, it's barely touching the street light. But who really knows...

    2) As someone else mentioned, the "before" and "after" images are reversed.

    3) The leaves in the trees/bushes near the camera do not move more than a pixel or two. The clouds move a little (looks pretty cool in sequence, actually), but not a lot. This leads me to believe that there is very little wind. However, by watching the waves in the water over the 3 frames, it appears that the wind is traveling towards the camera and to the camera's right. This is consistant with the direction the "smoke" appears from the streetlight with the "flash". Due to the somewhat calm nature of the wind, the smoke must have been traveling for some non-zero period of time, and obviously a much longer time than the period of the exposure of the camera (or we'd see smoke blurred all the way out from the light).

    4) Now I will contradict the last thing I said. Notice that the "smoke" from the light is perfectly semetrical and has an odd shape, sort of like a curly-brace '}'. Its direction relative to the light is exactly opposite that of the streak. This may lead one to conclude these two shapes are related. Fudging #1 a bit, this would lead me to believe that the streak and the "smoke" are artifacts generated by the lens of the camera. Notice that the streak only appears on parts of the image with certain brightness levels. One might note also that the hue of the streak is exactly the same as the hue of the clouds around it, it is just darker.

    So I don't know exactly what's going on, but my guess would be a camera artifact taking place as a result of an exploding street light at the moment the image was captured.

  239. Physical Inspection by michaelepley · · Score: 1

    The article mentions the lightpost will be/was inspected for damage. I would like to see the results of such an inspection (and an inspection of the surrounding area) if it was in fact performed.

  240. The person Swimming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe someone should find out from the person swimming off of that boat.
    Looks to me like the light probably blew out and the flash from it caused the camera to have the streak..

  241. BAMF! by Grayden · · Score: 0

    Anyone else notice the guy by his car in the "after" picture which is apparently actually the "before" picture? He's below the first white building to the left of the flash, near the bottom of the tree line.

    He is absent from the streak picture.

    He is back again in the "before" picture which is actually the "after" picture, standing near the cliff edge at the left end of the beach parking lot.

    Clearly the streak is an artifact of the EM pulse created during his teleportation.

  242. Well clearly, by Avardan · · Score: 1

    It's a miniature black hole. Think someone in China caught it on film too? The flash is where it entered the water, just happened to be in-line with the light pole.

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  243. Not the same thing by tallbill · · Score: 0

    Why spread useless information? If you read the article that you linked to you would have read this: "Residents, including Mr Hannaford, who scanned the sky after hearing the bang found it cloudless, starry, and with a waning half-moon directly above." The picture is not from 4:30 AM, nor is it "cloudless or, starry, and with a waning half-moon directly above"

  244. Mr. Smith says "Move Along Folks..." by Sumbody · · Score: 1

    Its the Matrix coming undone at the seams, and hoping for a better plotline to finish the trilogy with.

    Nobody's seen Keanu in a while.

  245. Clearly a fake by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 1
    It's clearly a fake, and not a good one either.

    Here's my take on it.

    The guy may be somwehat okay with Photoshop, but he oughta learn a bit more physics.

  246. Seems pretty simple to me... by SloWave · · Score: 1


    The street lamp failed with a bright flash, sparks, and smoke. Happens all the time. The camera captures both direct light from the flash and indirect light from the flash reflected from particles in the air. The indirect light is mostly uniform except where the street lamp pole is shadowing the flash. Hence a streak. Happens all the time at sunsets if you look carefully.

  247. But the question is... by siskbc · · Score: 1

    ...did you see Elvis?

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    1. Re:But the question is... by Shillo · · Score: 1

      With enough processing... there's an Elvis hidden in every picture!

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  248. Its way behind the streetlight by PalmKiller · · Score: 1

    Not likely since it was no where near that streetlight, that "flash" is the splash with heat release when it hit the water.

  249. Insect theory refined by russotto · · Score: 1

    It's a firefly. The "smoke" is the wings (illuminated by the firefly's own light), the bright flash is the light, the dark path the firefly's path before lighting up. Anyone know if there are fireflies in that area?

  250. Accident of Focal Plane Shutter? by LordByronStyrofoam · · Score: 1

    A piece of crud hanging by a thread or hair from the opening blade of a focal plane shutter in a 35MM film camera will generate a diagonal black streak. Was this picture taken with an SLR?

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  251. Not a flash across the grass by Alain+Williams · · Score: 2, Funny

    I read the headline and eagerly hoped for a picture of another lady running across a test match cricket pitch .... alas, it wasn't.

  252. Re:Solution posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your the 4th person to point out to somebody was the Nth person to point that out. RTF replies before you add a new one yourself!!!

    Note: I'm only the 1st person to point this out, so this doesn't count.

  253. Perhaps it's something going up... by TyrranzzX · · Score: 1

    Like a model rocket or say, a bullet? It could also be radiation of some kind instead of a solid object, a kind of radiation which turns atmosphere dark and lightpoles sparky.

  254. POV by fpentali · · Score: 1

    The broken light is throwing everyone off. Forget the light, just coincidence. The "line" doesn't extend to the light, imo. I think it actually has to do with the land behind the light across the water. Thats where the "end" is.

    Look at it from that point of view.

  255. Rocket, meteor, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Evidence:
    Black line from sky to ground, or nearly so. I've seen these before in desert dusty settings as contrails of jets flying over, exactly like that, but this is too narrow.

    White "splash" at end of black streak. Could be object hitting water, like a meteor. Very possible.

    "Smoke" near flash point. This seems odd if the origin is above and not below, because the flash and smoke would have to appear at the same time, rather than flash, then smoke (or spray, if water impact). Maybe if the shockwave of the spray/explosion was sufficient, it could compress, then decompress the air in front of it to form a tiny cloud. Aircraft wings do this on occasion.

    Theories:
    If the dark line were not so straight, I'd suspect a two stage model rocket launched closer to the "beach", with the first burning out just a few feet off the ground, and the second stage one of those ultra-light puppies that basically disappears when lit.

    I like the insect theory. I was taking pictures with a G2 (predecessor to the camera used here) and got a "UFO" along with my shots of the Chicago Air and Water Show. It took ten minutes to determine that the perfectly focused dark odd shape was actually a butterfly about ten feet in front of me when I was photographing parachutists in the background. It couldn't be any farther away because the atmospheric distortion would have softened the edges. So a bug by the lens, aligned with a fish jumping - that could about do it.

    The cosmic ray theory is good except for one thing - they show up a lot in space probe images and are always white lines, not dark. The electrical signal caused by the ray turns the CCD imager on, not off.

    However, a cyclical error in the imager or processor that does not overlap the scan rate could, itself, have been caused by a transient electrical event (often a cosmic ray) in the processor. Doing so could make a diagonal line in the image. It might even make the flash. It wouldn't make the smoke effect, though.

    My only theories that seem to account for everything are meteor coming down or rocket going up, or of course hoax.

    A meteor seems best just given that anything in space, the smaller it is, the more frequently it shows up. Earth picks up tons of space dust every day from micro meteors. This would simply take a metallic or carbon-rich meteor smaller than a baseball, which statistically speaking probably hit somewhere on the planet dozens of times a day.

  256. A bit of skepticism. by dannycim · · Score: 1

    You've got to ask yourself, are the streak, flash and smoke actually connected events or are they coincidental?

    And here's the kicker: Were the two photographs really taken in that order and not the reverse? That would explain why there's absolutely no remnants of smoke in the "after" picture.

  257. I get this all the time by RealProgrammer · · Score: 1

    I think it's a hair across the lens.

    But then, I'm not a RealPhotographer...

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  258. Revised prophecy by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 1

    "A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans... or at least put out a street light."

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  259. Sorry, can't resist. by Omestes · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our miniscule streaky overlords.

    Seriously though, this is pretty dumb, it appears to be nothing but a camera problem, either that or it miraculouly doesn't effect ANYTHING around it. I had a camera once that did nothing but leave little smear shapes around things, wasn't aliens or meteors, it was a shit camera.

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  260. Did anyone check street the light? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was it damaged? Kinda important here.

  261. Lens Flare from Bulb Burnout by grgcombs · · Score: 1

    The lamp on the light pole burned out with a pop, the resulting "trail" is nothing more than a pseudo lens flare or visual artifact caused by the flash on the camera.

  262. APOD Updated - "Participate in Slashdot" by Leeji · · Score: 1

    They just updated the message in the APOD to suggest people participate here: [Note: This bulletin board is currently experiencing load problems. Please check back later, or participate in the discussion on Slashdot.org here.] Thank you, Slashdot, for enabling the eclectic brain trust of APOD readers!

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  263. It's not an artifact: Proof by Drexus · · Score: 3, Informative

    I analysed the images and found that there is reflected light on the water that places the flash very close to the street light. Try this: - Load all three images into Photoshop. - Convert each image to Multichannel mode. - Select the yellow channel only in each image (channels window) - Bring up your curves window "Cmd+M":mac, "Ctrl+M":PC - Set the highlights: input 40% output 0% and the shadows: input 62% output 100% Do this for each image on the yellow channel only (save the curve and reuse it for each image for accuracy) Once each yellow channel is adjusted. (make sure you are not viewing channels in the the channel colour - view yellow as black) Tab through (cycle) each image to see the highlight in the water appear. (zoom out from each image with your keyboard - PS will place them all at the same position on your screen for a still animation). The light reflection you see will be a similar effect produced by lights on the waters edge from a NYC skyline at night - Tall and defused. It's not a bug. There is no smoke. That is a flash near the street light. No camera flash was used, and there is no sun beams present in the scene. I have no other explanation at this time. All I can say is the dark line is not smoke.

  264. Bottle Rocket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like a picture of a bottle rocket just as it explodes. The bottle rocket would have exploded between the camera and the light posts in the background. Because there are no good points of reference for the contrail, it looks farther away than it is.

    Although the bottle rocket would have to originate outside of the picture at the upper left, which is unlikely unless there's a tall building or hill over there. That and it's unlikely that the contrail would be completely gone by the time the after picture was taken.

  265. Interesting theory...but? by nuknuk · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I like this theory. Interesting!

    The flash/"smoke ring" isn't addressed, but it could be a coincidence? The thing is, it couldn't really be light reflecting off of that pole from the sun, as it would be currently in the path of the "shadow-beam". So what is it?

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  266. Re:It was a meteor, here's the link to the local n by Lachlan · · Score: 1

    The photo appears if it was taken in the Sydney area. The Manning area is 200 km north, and it is quite possible that if someone was 200km away, they do not have the same cloud coverage as Sydney. Why do you say the photo was not taken in early morning?

  267. Obviously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the work of John Titor!

  268. Is it a shadow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you had a bright flash from the light as it burned out, an obstacle in the upper left corner of the light globe, AND the proper humidity conditions, you might get a visible shadow pointing away from the light. Kindof the reverse of what you sometimes get when the sun breaks through a cloud deck.

  269. My solution answers all questions by alienmole · · Score: 1

    I don't need any questions answered, it's clear that this could only be one thing: a quark matter strike!

    Albeit a very small one.

    However, it vindicates this guy.

  270. isn't it going the wrong way for that? by dominux · · Score: 1

    the sun is top right, shadows and sunbeams should go top right to bottom left I think.

    1. Re:isn't it going the wrong way for that? by Thagg · · Score: 1

      Dominux,

      There is a bright cloud in the upper right, but I believe that the sun is to the upper left. It's impossible to say, except for the shadow-beam :)

      Seriously, this looks so exactly like a typical shadow-beam that I can't believe it's anything else. Note well that the beam ends at a cloud. I would be extremely surprised if the cloud wasn't long in the direction between the viewer and the cloud.

      Others have noted that the beam doesn't show up in the previous or subsequent photos. These shadow beams are typically of short duration, as the geometry of the sun, cloud, and veiwer needs to be fairly exact for a high-contrast shadow beam to be visible, and the clouds move pretty fast.

      I've attempted to use sun-angle calculators, but haven't succeeded yet. Still, if you are looking east from the coast of Australia at 18:52 on Nov 22, as this picture apparently is, you would expect the shadow to be at an angle that matches what is seen in this picture very closely. (note that it is summer in australia now, and I believe they have a kind of daylight-savings time, so 18:52 is the middle of the evening.)

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    2. Re:isn't it going the wrong way for that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > There is a bright cloud in the upper right, but I believe that the sun is to the upper left. It's impossible to say, except for the shadow-beam :)

      The cloud is brighter on the right side than the left side, so the sun must be on the right side of the picture. (I'm sure the photographer could verify this based on the time of day and location where the picture was taken.)

    3. Re:isn't it going the wrong way for that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For god sake, man. The bank below is illuminated by light coming from the right! Put away your calculator and use some common sense.

  271. Lighting and location. by answermatic5000 · · Score: 1

    The possibility that it is a plane contrail is pretty null, because the light source of the picture comes from the far right corner, either even with or maybe behind the larger white cloud. This would make casting a shadow across a cloud parallel to the light source fairly far-fetched, unless you're taking into consideration reflection, but that would have to be an incredibly strong reflection to create such a contrasting streak. The streak almost seems transparent, and if you look close enough appears to end on the horizon, not passing over the small amount of water between the horizon line and the lamp post. This could be a trick of color though, because the trail has a sort of blueish hue in comparison with the ionized clouds behind it. Light flash on the post does look like a reflection, at least the brighter yellow hue. There are smaller whisps of what almost looks like smoke surrounding it. What I can think of, other than the absurd, is a sort of electrical charge in this falling object, that came so close to the light that it fried the blub. This would account for the undamaged pole and the non-working light, and possibly the flash. The trail seemes too long and large for a falling object though, and frames before and after show no trail or streak. This would let one infer that if it were a falling object it would be travelling very, very fast, and if touchdown was in the water there would have been a splash in the following frames. The other interesting thing is that the trail doesn't appear beyond the clouds in the upper left of the picture, meaning that it either originated in the clouds or could only show with a contrasting background. SO, after all this, I still don't know for sure. But my guess is a highly charged particle or group of particles, after travelling through the clouds and creating the trail at very high speed, passed by the lamp and created a short from the energy they were omitting. They then hit the water, making no or little splash, all withing a short period of time.

  272. Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...of the coming of the Lord.

  273. Re:Those pictures have got to be in the wrong orde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about the movement of the boats? They all seem to be going in a constant direction.

  274. Not so fast by iowaporter · · Score: 1

    But how do you explain the smoke?

    And, a reflection would cause a bright streak, not a dark streak.

    1. Re:Not so fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it isn't smoke. I'm not saying he's right, just that since we don't know much for certain about this photo, we can't even be sure that the white stuff IS smoke. IANAPhysicist, but it seems to me that smoke, being made of tiny particles, wouldn't be able to occur like that. Ie., around the rock itself, but not along the streak. Not to mention smoke doesn't dissipate that fast, so why isn't it in the second pic?

  275. I believe it could be much simpler than you think. by CmdrNate · · Score: 1

    It appears the streetlight simply burnt out... This would cause a small explosion, but does not damage the light... The artifact cast is just from the bright light emitted. If you look very closely, there is a small amount of 'fuzz' around the light in the last picture that wasn't there in the first... Occams Razor ;-) Simplest explanation is the most likely... Also, the boat in the background isn't moving ;-) Anyway, flame away...

  276. Didn't anybody notice by SixDimensionalArray · · Score: 1

    If you zoom in to where the bright light is, about 400% digital zoom with Photoshop, you can tell that the smoke is actually coming out from far below the tip of the light? It actually looks like some steam or something coming from the ground, moving up from the left side of the pole.

    At least the steam/smoke part of it definitely doesn't look like anything related to this so-called "impact".

  277. Has anyone looked at the water? by DrFishstik · · Score: 1

    Zoom in on the pic at the end of the steak. Theres a weird shape. Any ideas? It looks like its either the source or the endpoint.

  278. Jet wash? by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 1

    wonder if an airplane left a line in the clouds?

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  279. PROOF by Drexus · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Note the reflection (view my other post on how to filter the reflection using PS channels)

    Before

    Flash

    After

  280. I've seen this phenomenon before! by umrgregg · · Score: 1
    I was driving to California via I-40 last month and saw the exact same phenomenon minus the explosion at the tail. Let me explain:

    I was heading west in Arizona with a front of clouds, similar to that in the picture, in front of me. I saw for a brief amount of time a straight, diagonal line across the cloud front. I would appear and disappear. It was so cool, I pulled over to take a shot with my Digital Reb. On inspection of the sky it appeared that the line was a shadow being cast on the cloud front by a exhaust trail from a high flying jet. It looked almost exactly the same. But, unlike the picture there was no explosion to mark where the shadow terminated on the horizon.

    My take is that this is merely a con-trail shadow, and the explosion is him capturing the reported failure of the wharf light in one of his time exposed shots.

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  281. Flash continues behind the bridge pillar... by 85-928S-Euro · · Score: 1

    If you look just to the upper right of the rightmost tree, there is what appears to be a light-purplish flash behind the bridge pillar. The light post appears to be on the other side of the bridge (or conveyor) and looks like the trajectory would end up in the water. The sonic boom, if there was one, could have caused the lamp to go out without the particle physically striking the post. Probably a near miss. While it could be a jpeg compression artifact, it IS in the trajectory of the 'tunnel'. I think that the most likely explanation is a sand-grain sized meteorite who's final demise was caused; not by striking the light post, but by the atmospheric friction which happened to be at the highest just above the surface of the water. The moisture from the water might have played a role in the atmospheric density. It is a one and a billion shot but how many billions of images have been taken since the invention of the camera!

    1. Re:Flash continues behind the bridge pillar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If you look just to the upper right of the rightmost tree, there is what appears to be a light-purplish flash behind the bridge pillar.

      The purple aura is a known artifact of the camera used. Meteorites get hot. They glow. I say it's a shadow.

  282. solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ball lightning

  283. Crowbow!! by SplunkDotNet · · Score: 1

    It's the first unoffical test of the crossbow project. Because the best defense is a good ofense.

    No but really that is quite interesting, if it's real. 14:57, 14:58....

    1. Re:Crowbow!! by answermatic5000 · · Score: 1

      Actually I have a friend in an unnamable government department working on space lazers.... oh yes, it's definately a space lazer. Shooting out lamp posts from space in front of a camera man.....

  284. Re:Crossbow!! by SplunkDotNet · · Score: 1

    *hangs head in shame*

    should have read title when previewing...sorry

  285. Behind glass? by CyberSnyder · · Score: 1

    Was the photo taken outside or from inside behind glass? If the latter, its a reflection.

  286. australian streak by ukuleledre · · Score: 1

    one thing that everyone is overlooking: if you look at all three photos, you'll notice that the "light pole" is actually the mast of a sailboat on the other side of the pier. look closely and calmly at the before and after shots. you can just see the rigging on the mast. the light poles on the pier are regularly spaced, of one consistent height, and have obvious light fixtures on top. the other vertical elements (irregularly spaced, of differing heights, with no obvious light fixtures) are boat masts, including the pole that is intimately involved with the mysterious phenomenon. some masts have running lights atop them, but those are generally very small. the "exploding bulb" theory is completely invalid, i think. also, as several posters have mentioned, the sunlight on the clouds indicate that the sun is below the horizon to the right and behind the photographer. on another list, the guy who supplied the photo said it was early in the morning when he took the pictures. there's no sun to reflect off of anything down by the water, unless it's off the clouds first. there's definitely no way that a contrail could leave a shadow at that angle, despite what many very confident posters would have you believe. sun shadows are parallel to sunlight! it's not a contrail shadow! it's not anticrepuscular rays! it's not heilegenschein, a halo, a corona, the glory, or a rainbow! and besides, none of the various aspects of the phenomenon appear in the photos immediately preceeding and succeeding the photo in question. most of the possibilities discussed would last longer than a few seconds. the bug hypothesis has not been soundly eliminated. otherwise, it must be a photographic artifact. was the photo taken from inside? could the phenomenon be a reflection off the inside of a window? so many great ufo photos were just some guy's watch reflecting off the glass...

  287. Re:Those pictures have got to be in the wrong orde by elhaf · · Score: 1

    According to the timestamps, the before and after are reversed. They are all taken in about 30 seconds. The boat on the right goes from behind the dock to the right, which matches its wake, and the clouds billow up in that order.

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  288. Do the obvious by Unreal7000 · · Score: 1

    Anyone thought to go and check the light?

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  289. It did not strike the Earth.. by 85-928S-Euro · · Score: 1

    To add to that, the image shows the particle disintegrating in a flash from atmospheric friction within feet of the surface of the Earth.

    Therefore, it is NOT the first image of an object striking the Earth.

  290. It looks like a sprite... by metalgina · · Score: 1
    hmmm, it looks like that dark streak ends/begins at that water 'sprite'. Those globular lightning discharges you can see from space shooting up through the atmosphere? that's what I mean by 'sprite'. We seriously need to figure out what those things are and how they work since they seem to shoot up through the atmosphere like something shooting up to the surface from under water.

    Considering that ocean covers 75% of our planet I think there are a LOT of things us silly monkeys don't understand about the dominant environment on this planet. It looks like something either shot down or was sent to space or something else along that line. I'd check to see if there are any satelite pics that were taken at the same moment and see if it was one of those ball-lightning 'sprites' or if something entered the atmosphere from that trajectory.

    The shadowy 'streak' seems to be some sort of light at a wavelength we can barely see. I'd say it was a streak of carbon from something from space like space-junk or a small meteor but the streak doesn't seem to dissipate with the weather. It looks like some form of light since it's a straight line as opposed to a smoking streak of something...there's my 2 cents...LET THE BASHING BEGIN! :)

  291. dissipating vapour trail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the timestamps reveal that there are no photos in the series from before the photo with the streak could this be a dissipating vapour trail from a jetliner?

  292. Not to ask the obvious but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did anyone bother to go actually look at the light in question and examine it.....you know... that real life stuff....

  293. Another similar streak in San Francisco, 1977 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Australian strake is not alone. On the internet, we can find a photo of another mysterious strake, in double, from San Francisco, 1977:
    http://www.perspectivas.com.mx/noticias/
    That San Francisco double strake seems to be just a problem on the print, if not a hoax, but it's very similar in appearance to the Australian one.

  294. photo enhancement by futileboy · · Score: 1

    For what it's worth I just did a photoshop diff on the durning and after images and then bumped up the contrast a smidge. The results can be found here: Image Link (5.2 MB JPEG)

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    1. Re:photo enhancement by Iron+Monkey · · Score: 1

      Wow - the image of a Greek God is clearly visible in the clouds above! Obviously Australia has angered Zeus! :)

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  295. Flash looks like lightning ground leader by cgi-bin · · Score: 1

    The "flash" looks like the upward moving ground leader from a lightning strike. Those leaders often do not connect to form an actual strike. It actually appears to be coming from the base of the lamp, not the top, which would be the most logical place for a leader to form.

    The streak, I'm not so sure. As others have suggested, it could be a contrail "shadow", however, it seems much too straight to be a hair, or even a shadow, as contrails quickly deform. Even if the ground has no wind, upper atmosphere usualy does and contrails will not stay that straight for very long. It does apear to converge (smaller top-left, to larger closest to the flash). But, I could be wrong on that.

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  296. Pretty obvious in that one photo by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 0

    Look at the before and after and there's nothing. Can't be smoke.

    1. Re:Pretty obvious in that one photo by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      I looked at all three. Still looks like smoke around the lamp to me. The white plume only shows up in the picture with the streak. There is none before or after. Definite proof of smoke as smoke can dissipate at varying speeds due to different environmental conditions as well as the kind of element being burned and releasing the smoke. I would guess this lamp is a mercury-vapor lamp. So it's not unreasonable to expect that the "smoke" seen around the light could has something to do with the vapor in the lamp. After all the light wasn't working when they went to look at it. It's not irrefutable proof, but I'm thinking this has something to do with either the light itself, or something hitting the light in such a way that the damage is not obvious.

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  297. When pigs fly by axonal · · Score: 1

    Anyone else noticed that the cloud in that re-leveled picture looks like a flying pig?

  298. Glass Bow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll wager a wild guess that it's a glass bow...

  299. Plane by simpl3x · · Score: 1

    Pretty cool! This makes me think that it's a reflection from a case or a filter of the sky above the camera, with a plane traversing it. The perspective is perfect.

    The camera has to have a case of some sort protecting it.

  300. If it is not a meteor... by kevlar · · Score: 1

    If this isn't a meteor, which I'm not entirely sure why it couldn't be; then it is a shadow from some sort of vapor train that you cannot see in the picture.

    I suppose it could also be an amateur rocket fired from the ground and/or an elaborate hoax.

  301. Look a the friendly pictures! by xutopia · · Score: 1
    Before, during and after

    The streak appears when the post blows up. Did anyone notice that post blow up or am I the only one to have look at more than just the streak?

  302. APOD Mystery Photo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The photo appears to catch three unrelated but remarkably aligned events:
    1. A shadow from a contrail. I've seen lots of these here in big sky country and they look exactly like that.
    2. A puff of smoke from an engine starting.
    3. The streetlight luminaire starting in the twilight and the bulb blowing out with a bright flash. (Note that the streetlight wasn't working when it was investigated).

  303. What are people looking at? by macemoneta · · Score: 1

    I don't get it. I've been staring at the images for about 15 minutes, and aside from the hair on the lens, I don't see anything interesting.

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  304. OBLIG: I for one by Spazed0ut · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our dark streaking, flashing non-terrestial overlords.

  305. A strand of hair. by stickystyle · · Score: 1

    Duh.

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  306. Govt weapon? by Lord+Floppy · · Score: 1

    Maybe its a test fire of a satellite defense network. A low power test to see the accuracy of the weapon.

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  307. jeez, enough already! by ukuleledre · · Score: 1

    everything has been ruled out! it's a reflection on the window the camera was pointed through! who knows what it was, maybe tracklights, the photographer's toy lightsaber, a beam on the ceiling and a wall sconce... we have to let it go and move on.

  308. My guess by cdn-programmer · · Score: 1

    The fellow should have checked out the street lamp.

    My guess is that the bulb exploded, launching a light projectile towards the upper left hand corner of the picture on a plane that is more or less parallel with the plane of the picture.

    Opposite this projectile a much more massive chunk traveled downward and from this peice we see some smoke trails traveling both downward and upward. The downward trails appear to ensnarl the pole somewhat.

    Given the shutter speed is about 1/3 of the usual minimum for taking pictures there is ample time for the projectiles to travel the distances we observe.

    Another possible explanation is a small pyro device tossed into the air which explodes on this side of the street light. If one looks closely it does appear that some of the smoke is on this side of the street lamp pole. So maybe we had some kids fill a soda bottle with gunpowder and light a fuse and toss it into the air. Checking hospital reports may yeild the clues we need!

    Given the size of the long trail into the upper left hand corner however, I suspect that whatever was thrown in this direction was on fire and we are only seeing a vapour/smoke trail that disappears within a few seconds (like 15 for instance). I wonder if sodium from a high pressure sodium lamp can do this.

  309. Oh Goody! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They've found my oludium-236 explosive space modulator!

  310. Light didn't work in BEFORE picture? by lilmouse · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that the light wasn't working in the "before" picture, either. So the fact that the light doesn't work now isn't really as interesting as it could be.

    I know plenty of places that are slow about replacing burnt out street lights!

    --LWM

  311. Austrailian Streak and Flash by In+the+shell · · Score: 1

    The "light pole" is actually a mast / crane of the ship nearly hidden from view , except for its superstructure off to the left. The bright flash is either a light on the mast or perhaps a flash due to some welding. The gray line is the shadow of a passing aircraft. The shadow is very likely in the distant background, but lines up with the mast. The clouds in the upper right are illuminated by the sun off to the left. Brian Hawes

  312. its a bug by Zurgutt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seeing the diff reminded me of cool picture i saw on photo site: http://hagar.nomad.ee/pildid/images/3362.jpg
    Cloud of mosquitos caught in flash. Looks like a flying crosses scene from Pink Floyds "The Wall" movie :)

    The actual site is http://foto.kala.ee/

  313. The bulb was burnt out by Antithetical · · Score: 1
    After being checked, the bulb was found to be broken. There's also a note saying that they hope to check the top of the post soon. "The wharf lamp bulb was yesterday found to be blown but the top of the post will not be checked for damage until today."

    News story

    Here's a picture of damage caused by another meteor

    1. Re:The bulb was burnt out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree that this seems like a burnt out bulb.. The bulb burned out at exactly that moment, The subsequent flare caused a shadow from the lamp post and/or cover to explain the line.

      The "smoke" effect seems mostly symmetrical to me (Especially when looking at the image subtraction examples from the bug threads).. This seems consistent to me with the type of halos you see when you take a picture of yourself in a mirror with the flash on.. In this case however the halo is coming from the flare of the bulb burning out..

      Is it possible that photographer did the same thing the previous evening? It would be great to see if the lamp was working the day before. That would really tend to support that it was the bulb burning out. Of course if it was out the day before then that blows this idea out of the sky..

    2. Re:The bulb was burnt out by alw53 · · Score: 1

      The smoke seems to be coming from the boat engine -- probably it was just started. Sailboats usually have small engines as backup propulsion.

  314. Anyone notice the man in the car? by D3r1v3D · · Score: 1

    I haven't read anybody mention something about the man getting out of his car in the after photo. If you look at the tree in front of the second all-white building on the left, directly underneath it, you can make out a car. If you look at the before, occurence, and after photos, you can see the man getting out of his car. As to what this means, I'll leave that up to you.

    1. Re:Anyone notice the man in the car? by babybird · · Score: 1

      This would probably be interesting except that if you look at the EXIF headers in the image made by the camera, what's actually happening is that the man is getting INTO his car just before the flash (the before and after shots were named in reverse, i.e. after is before and before is after). Maybe we should be tracking him down and asking what he did? ;)

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  315. Obvious to boaters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This appears to be exactly what an emergency flare would look like when hitting the water. This flare was not shot straight up, instead at an arch.

  316. It's so clear to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone is obviously looking at this the wrong way! As very small aliens (large home planet-heavy gravity being the reason) have all but been proved to exist among us, this is clearly an alien ship LEAVING the planet. Allow me to elaborate.

    First: The postion of the smoke and flame coincide with the departure streak.

    B: When you factor in the departure angle, Rotation of the earth, postion of the moon and wind direction (based on the wakes in the water) it is the PERFECT time and angle for such a departure. These same conditions would not have come again until 2012!

    3: The lamp post CLEARLY is smaller on the top, which is almost always the favored landing zones for these craft. Due to their metallic dome shapes it is nigh imposible to recognize them to the casual observer.

    Finaly: Located just 3 miles west of the location is Austraila's 7th largert ball bearing factory. This type of factory will be the first to go when the invasion begins. Rendering all vehicles useless in less than 8 years.

    Big E is always here to clear things up.

  317. Contrail Shadow by volvoguy · · Score: 1

    I definitely don't claim to be an expert, as I only visited this website about a week ago, but it looks kinda like the "contrail shadows" found here:

    http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/atoptics/rayshad.htm

    That doesn't really explain the flash - but that looks unrelated to me anyway.

  318. poison pigeon falls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeap. i saw it

  319. aaaargh! by ukuleledre · · Score: 1

    read the previous posts! it's not a contrail shadow!

    1. Re:aaaargh! by volvoguy · · Score: 1

      take a deep breath... it's ok... really.

      I only saw one other mention of contrails and it didn't include a picture. If you know what they look like, my message wasn't intended for you.

  320. Note to self by Kris1066 · · Score: 1

    Do not test secret doomsday weapon carrying rocket where people can photograph it. Right now I'm only an Angry Scientist. I graduate to Mad after I make a play for world domination.

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  321. hair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    its a hair falling in front of the camera.

  322. More questions than answers. by CodeHog · · Score: 1

    There is not enough valid information about the pictures to come up with a sound answer. Although I tend to agree with posts along the lines of the most obvious explanation is probably the correct answer(Occam's razor).

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  323. It's a dead pixel in the camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is almost certianly a dead pixel in the camera. It shows all the classic signs of a dead pixel.

  324. Bulb failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I concur that the bulb blew out. The fact that smoke doesn't appear in the following frame is a matter of dispersion and illumination (the bright light from the filament illuminates the smoke in the frame in question). After all, the Sun is low in the sky and the foreground is not well iluminated as a result of clouds. I don't think the streak is a shadow of an out of focus foreground structure, although that's a good hypothesis. The streak apparently ends at the horizon, but this could be a contrast issue. I have attempted to fit a line to the streak. The streak has some curvature to it, which could be the result of distortion in the digital camera lens or the fact that the actual streak is curved (see below). This makes it difficult to determine if the streak intersects the lamp post, but my best fit indicates the extension of the streak below the horizon lies above the lamp post. My best guess is that the streak is the exhaust stream from an aircraft (not a contrail). I have observed numerous sunsets for over 15 years on five different continents. I often see short-lived (less than a few minutes) ray structures (streaks). Sometimes these are the shadows of clouds, other times, the shadows of contrails, or the contrail itself, or the exhaust trail that becomes apparent under only the right conditions of light and contrast. So, my conclusion - you have a combination of two events - an exploding lamp post bulb and an aircraft exhaust trail that becomes apparent under critical lighting conditions. Granted, a bit of a stretch, but more plausible than a meteorite hitting a lamp post. Is the camera pointed in the direction of an airport? Were the pictures taken more than a minute apart? I will agree - a meteorite hitting a lamp post would be very cool, but less plausible than what I am suggesting. jjs

  325. Dark Streak by Boronx · · Score: 1
    The dark line looks like the shadow a contrail makes in the sky on rare occaisions as the sun sets below it.

    I can't see anything in the picture that could be making such a shadow, BTW.

  326. Ah! M$ is to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If he's using a Canon he's obviously used M$ Windows to load the image onto his computer. In order to stop it being file-shared, Windows has added an encrypted line to ensure that the image can only be used on the originating computer...

    Now had he used Open Source he would have been fine!

  327. Microscopic Purple Hole by somzaug · · Score: 1

    My first impulse was to guess "camera artifact." But some people who are knowledgeable about digital cameras who have posted here seem to doubt that it is; so let's assume that it is not.

    It has already been speculated that microscopic black holes sometimes intersect the orbit of the earth, passing through the earth and/or its atmosphere in a few micro or milliseconds.

    If the picture's only artifact had been the dark streak, my guess would have been that we were seeing exactly that: the trail created by a microscopic black hole traveling through the atmosphere. This would explain how an object traveling through the atmosphere at high speed could do so without creating great heat (and an atmospheric glow): rather than displacing atmospheric molecules (consequently imparting kinetic energy and creating heat), a black hole would be _absorbing_ them, leaving a partial vacuum in its wake. This vacuum would be visible as the dark streak.

    But we also have the flash to contend with. Not just the flash, but also the fact that the flash occurs in a location very near a streetlamp in the picture. For the moment, let's assume that this indicates that the object in question hit the streetlamp.

    Let's describe the flash. In addition to the bright region just to the right of the top of the lamppost, there is a dimmer region that is roughly the shape of a squat "T". (This may be a lens artifact, but it may not.) The "top stroke" of the T extends perpendicular to the dark streak, about 3 times the width of the bright part of the flash on either side. The "down stroke" of the T is a halo-ish circular glow just beyond the bright part of the flash along the path of the dark streak.

    I do not think that a black hole would explode or decay on impact with matter slightly more dense than the atmosphere. I don't have science to back up this guess, it's just my instinct. Also, while I don't know what a decaying black hole would look like, for some reason I don't think it would look the way this flash does.

    So if we need an object with strong gravity to explain the dark path, but we can't use a black hole, what does that leave us? I am going to theorize the existence of something I will call a "Purple Hole." (I just Googled the term, and I don't see that it has been used in astronomy or physics. Apologizes if that turns out to be wrong. Apologizes also to http://ghs.ming.k12.wv.us/Purple_Hole/Gilbert High School.)

    A black hole, while exhibiting extreme gravitational effects, is made up of ordinary matter. So the physics used to analyze black holes, and to predict when and under what circumstances they might decay, and what the products might be if they do decay, are based on models where the amount and density of matter is extraordinary, but the matter is not.

    But what if the object in question were a mixture containing, in addition to ordinary matter, dark matter and possibly dark energy? We might have an object whose gravitational effects were similar to those of a black hole, but whose behaviors in terms of decay were quite different.

    In particular, it is possible that the decay of the object would produce mainly weakly interactive particles. These particles would mostly pass through ordinary matter showing little or no macroscopic effect. This would explain the lack of visible damage to the street light. It might also help to explain the fact that the object decayed at all (whether it struck the streetlamp or not). A microscopic examination of parts of the streetlamp might show paths left by decay particles.

    OK, maybe this is silly. But it's fun. Thanks for reading this long post.

  328. Power transformer blew up...that's my story... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

    Looking at the blowup of the main picture, the light is emenating from a standard power pole. Closer inspection shows a central blast arch, with a larger surrounding blast arch - dust or steam billowing out at an angle from behind the pole.

    From what I see, it appears a transformer on the backside of the power pole blew up - causing the flare; the picture was taken miliseconds after the explosion.

    The line on the image in the sky is probably the artifact of a lens flare, caused by the intense light at the moment of maximum light output - a milisecond before the picture was snapped and scanned - leaving the artifact behind.

    If I was able to visit that location, I would examine the power pole at the point and see if there is no residue from a transformer blow-up or other malfunction of power lines at that location.

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  329. Some info... by mark2004 · · Score: 1

    I was privy to the first 10 pages of original discussion, so hopefully I can add some helpful insight to this mystery.

    1. It is not a contrail shadow, nor any sort of shadow related to the sun. The sun is off the upper *right* of the picture, as evidenced by the clouds.
    2. The original post stated that the lamp-post was inspected and showed no damage, only that the light did not work. The light had not exploded, so theories to that effect are lost causes (sorry.)
    3. Upon closer inspection, the "lamp-post" actually appears to be the mast of a ship. The lamp-posts are regularly spaced and taller than the pole the streak ends on.
    4. A photo-analyst (or so he claimed) mentioned that the color of the flash at the end of the streak was definitely related to the color of the light reflecting off the water. The consequences of this, however, were not explained. *shrug*

    All in all, the most convincing theory I have heard is that it is a winged insect passing in front of the camera. A quick google shows the fastest it could be going is ~10 m/s, which would have it travelling a maximum of .5m (~19in) during the exposure. The only problem is that in the incorrectly-labelled after photo, there appears to be a small amount of white smoke around the base of the pole.

    Cognitate on!

  330. Nothing to see here... by MrRee · · Score: 1

    Move along, there's nothing to see here.
    That? That was swamp gas.
    Move along...

  331. Someone has to say it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new pole-flashing alien overlords!

  332. Strangelets by dmitri2060 · · Score: 1

    Look up strangelets

  333. Let me see... by Freddles · · Score: 1

    The forumsetup to discuss it is currently hosed, so perhaps fellow slashdotters can shed some light over the mystery?"

    Yeah, it's definitely hosed.

  334. The invasion has begun... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad I'm out here in the middle of nowhere.. They'll never come here for.. *connection terminated*

  335. Flash explained... by pVoid · · Score: 1
    That's a good point you make. What it tells me, aside from the fact that it might be a tampered image (Which everyone already knew), is that in the case it's legit, the flash must have lasted a very short amount of time.

    Think of it like this: you take a flash picture of someone in pitch black, it doesn't matter if the shutter is set at 1/2 second, the exposure will only be as long as the flash (~1/40.000th second).

    That being said, the flash *is* actually blurred. IF you look at it, it looks blurred radially outwards. With the center being to the bottom right and more intense (indicating motion, but also explosion during motion).

    I personally think the plume of smoke has nothing to do with the artifact. I also have a hunch that tells me the flash is actually a much smaller object way *in front* of the lamp post. (not further behind). Don't ask me why, it's just a hunch.

    If I were to rationally come up with a hypthesis, I'd be inclined to say it's a firework-like object that blew up and never hit the water. That's what the flash looks like. Although, the trajectory indicates too high speed to be a firework. Maybe ammunition, or a fighter jet flare of some sort?

  336. Flash/splash NOT aligned with light pole! by mike18xx · · Score: 1

    Blow up the pic a bit, and you'll see that it's several pixels off to the right of the pole.

  337. Answer: it is a sun shadow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As seen/explained here:
    http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Plume.ht ml

  338. Sun-Struck CCD by dcigary · · Score: 1
    When I saw this, I immediately thought back to my old webcam that I had pointed out the front of the house. Unfortunately, the webcam was pointed into the sun, and it produced sun-struck streaks on the CCD. In this case, the angle and width of the streak in the "mystery image" looks close to mine. Also note that the streak was not visible in low light conditions on my webcam, only when the light level was above a certain limit did the streaks show up. So, here's my hypothosis:

    • 1. Camera has been in use for a while watching clouds.
    • 2. Camera is pointing to the SSW, enough to catch the sun as it travels through the sky.
    • 3. Trail in mystery picture, if you look closely, actually ends at the horizon, not at the post, thus capturing the setting sun.
    • 4. The camera just happened to catch the bulb on the dock going out, producing a large flash.
    • 5. The flash caused the camera to reduce the light level, thus illuminating the streak.


    • Note I haven't looked into the EXIF data at all from the images, but it would be interesting to see what the apeture of the camera is in the mystery picture as compared to the other two.

      Anyhow. There's my theory. Maybe that's it?
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  339. It's a "rod". by douglips · · Score: 2, Informative

    troon is absolutely right - this thing is a bug flying across the field of view, illuminated by a flash.

    There is a certain class of crackpot who thinks that out of focus pictures of insects flying across a photoframe are evidence of some strange unknown creature.

    Fortunately, we can visit their websites and laugh at them. Unfortunately, they can now point at the Astronomy Picture of the Day and say "See! NASA found more evidence for rods!"

    Link to roswellrods.com - don't forget your tin foil hat, and your annoying-flash-website spelunking equipment.

    Link to an actual sane person describing the phenomenon

    More discussion

  340. you mean that dark streak? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You haven't seen these? When an airplane contrail is aligned with the setting sun, its shadow casts a straight dark line across the sky, pointing to the point opposite of where the sun is setting. I see them a lot in Silicon Valley.

  341. Wait...Fark.com...no....Slashdot.org.waaaaiiiiitt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must've mistyped this URL.

  342. Faked? by retro128 · · Score: 1

    Any chance that this is just a clever Photoshop hoax? It looks from the picture like a street light blew up. Why didn't this dude run down to the pier and take a picture of the damage?

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    -R
  343. It could be in the camera by c3tzVDjx · · Score: 1

    It looks like it could be a static spark in the camera. In the right conditions, the act of advancing the film can generate enough static to cause a spark in the camera and expose the film. It is just a coincidence, that the spark happened at the top of the light pole. There is what looks to me like lightning around the light pole, that is to big to have gone unnoticed by onlookers. The line could be a result of the spark or something unrelated in the processing.

    1. Re:It could be in the camera by cetan · · Score: 1

      That's great and all

      but it was a digital camera.

      --
      In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
  344. The solution by AhabTheArab · · Score: 1

    After further analysis and applying advanced image enhancement techniques, this image will make clear what the cause of this is. http://webpages.charter.net/gohome/strange_pryde_b ig.jpg

  345. except by geekoid · · Score: 1

    the there appear that the pole is a power line pole, and not a street lamp.
    there is no light in the before picture, like the other street lamps
    the smoke is both rising and falling
    and the smoke is in front of the lamp.

    it seems to me that something behind the trees gave off some smoke (steam?) and a puff happened to catch the sun just right.

    --
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  346. Photoshopped, and here's why by Alien54 · · Score: 1
    Photoshopped, and here's why
    1. Pictures before and after do not show the streak. You would think that the smoke trail would linger in the air for a while thereafter.
    2. The edges of the smoke streak are what seems to be perfectly straight. Against, atmnospheric turbulance should cause the edges to be slightly billowed and/or irregular
    3. The edges of the streak should be more like a long thin cone, indicating an expansion of the smoke plume as time passes with the transit of the proposed meteorite through the atmosphere. In the photo, the edges of the smoke plume are parrallel to each other.
    4. The flash of light shows a seemingly symmetrical splash of light at right angles to the path of the streak. An impact would have hot particles going off at various angles, shedding sparks and light depending on the angle of impact.
    5. Vaporization would tend to be omni directional, modified by the speed of transit/impact.
    The secret to good photoshopping is attention to details.
    --
    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  347. Bad Science from "The Bad Astronomer" by mike18xx · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Bad Science from "The Bad Astronomer" -- On the Bad Astronomy page (which I am unable, for some reason, to create an account on due to the "robot" rejecting a correct letter/number verifier.), "Bad Astronomer" (henceforth, "BA") wrote:
    If this were a meteor hitting the lamp, then the center of the streak should hit the lamp-- if we are to believe the image shows the lamp exploding upon impact, the trail should not have had time to drift. Since the streak misses the lamppost, I assume that this picture does not show a meteor.
    Why are "we to believe the image shows the lamp exploding"? Wouldn't it be an easier assumption that the lamp is simply in the foreground and the bright object is either the incandescent meteor itself or its splash & steam-cloud in the water behind the post?
    Also, a small meteor would have long since slowed to free fall by the time it hit the ground, so the angle of attack would be vertical, not at the 33 degree angle in the picture.
    Bullets traveling less than one-tenth the speed of a meteorite are easily able to miles of atmosphere without slowing to free-fall. A reasonably aerodynamic iron/nickel meteorite could easily slam straight in at an oblique slant angle at still supersonic speed. (The small white arc which is just to the right of the flash/splash is, I maintain, slight condensation attending the atmospheric shock-wave which is visible only from a vantage point along the plane of the shove-wave.) I believe the image shows the impact of a dime-to-quarter-sized meteorite traveling slightly under the speed of sound at splash-down. Not only does it satisfy Occam's Razor with only a single item explaining all features on the image (dark trail, white arc, bright flash), but also represents a phenomena which actually isn't that unusual, and which have been recorded on film on more than one instance before.
    1. Re:Bad Science from "The Bad Astronomer" by mike18xx · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, where are people getting the idea -- in the first place -- that the lamp bulb ever "exploded"? The remarks on APOD merely indicate that the lamp was examined and found to be "not working". Since street-lights commonly burn out, this is nothing unusual IMO. I rather expect it would have been mentioned if the thing were actually in pieces.

    2. Re:Bad Science from "The Bad Astronomer" by ToSeek · · Score: 1
      I believe the image shows the impact of a dime-to-quarter-sized meteorite traveling slightly under the speed of sound at splash-down. Not only does it satisfy Occam's Razor with only a single item explaining all features on the image (dark trail, white arc, bright flash), but also represents a phenomena which actually isn't that unusual, and which have been recorded on film on more than one instance before.

      I'm not aware of any images of meteors actually hitting the Earth. I think this would be a first in that regard.

      Also, your explanation does not explain why in the diff image there's no line marking where the lamppost blocks the smoke, as there would be if the light and smoke had formed from a splash in the sea behind the lamppost. Good try, though - I'm leaning toward the bug hypothesis myself, but there are problems with that one, too.

  348. I know! I know! by DeathByDuke · · Score: 0

    Its Dr Evil re-entering the atmosphere!

    We're Dooooooomeed!

  349. the shiny spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    look at yellow part of artifact;
    look at bright cloud;
    look at shiny red spot in bottom left of lake
    (centered at x=888 y=1346, it's pretty round);

    my guess is that it could be a piece of glass
    floating on the lake, reflecting a part of the
    sky on the lens of the camera;

    the streack could be caused by movement of this
    object on water;

    so, the blue part of artifact should be the
    reflection of the sky, but its shape is weird.
    Maybe due to shape of the floating object.

    The other solution is that an alien drowning in
    the lake emitted a laser signal (shiny spot) to
    its orbital spaceship to send a rescue
    capsule (the artifact).

    1. Re:the shiny spot by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

      the shiny red spot
      is in the before and
      after pictures

      but the artifact
      is not - perhaps the camera
      has a bad pixel

      --
      THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
    2. Re:the shiny spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but the intensity is not exactly the same;
      have you ever seen a car's reflect when it's really
      sunny ? when it doesn't blind you, it's still
      shiny. And here, we have a lens, not an eye;
      so it's not blinded.

  350. More Questions by J.+Random+Luser · · Score: 1

    Which direction was Cassiopia?
    .
    Where do the souls of street lamps go when they die?

  351. Bottle Rocket by MacGabhain · · Score: 1

    Ok, bigger than a bottle rocket, launched from off to the left at a low tradjectory over the bay, exploding as it approached the ground. Shutter happened to release right when the firework exploded.

  352. Well that would explain by babybird · · Score: 1

    That would explain the lack of obvious physical damage to the lamp then.

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    Keith D.
  353. Skybox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course, it's the skybox!

    Wouldn't have happened if they had been using the Half-life 2 engine.

  354. Firefly by mortonda · · Score: 1

    Yeah, it looks like a firefly, flying up to the left during the picture, and maybe a little bit towards the camera. Alternately, is could be a bug captured by the flash at the beginning of the picture, fading out as it flew up to the left.

  355. Re:OBLIG: I for one [OFFTOPIC: Let's end this] by narcc · · Score: 2, Funny

    They welcomed our dark streaking, flashing non-terrestial overlords 2 years ago ... In Japan!

    In Soviet Russia, dark streaking, flashing non-terrestial overlords welcome YOU!

    In Korea, only Old People welcome dark streaking, flashing non-terrestial overlords

    These aren't the dark streaking, flashing non-terrestial overlords you're looking for...

    [/me waves goodbye to karma]

  356. Strange streak in Oz by lynx321 · · Score: 1

    Surely - lightbulb "blew" (exploded, formed a minimininova) & threw shadow of lampstandard, lampshade or whatever, UP into sky through evening mist; thus making the mist visible. The principle being that sparrows are more common than canaries, perhaps even in Oz. Question now - why did the bulb "blow"?

  357. The lightbulb by Punboy · · Score: 1

    "The light pole near the flash has been inspected and does not show any damage, although the light inside was not working."

    I bet the light in the light pole blew, and when it did flashed brightly. the picture was taken at just the right moment to catch the flash, and in doing so got some glare on the lens.

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  358. Link to explanation by spudchucker · · Score: 0

    After a bit of research (reading the article) I found this link

  359. did anyone notice the haze surrounding the light? by joeaggie · · Score: 1

    Someone may have mentioned this already, I haven't had time to look through all the posts. But, did anyone notice the haze around the light? At first I thought it was steam from a building and didn't think much of it, then I realized the towering cumulus cloud in the background isn't a cold weather cloud, at least not in weather cold enough to make steam obvious. After I saw the before and after pictures and noticed that the haze wasn't present there... I'd say I have to go with the bug theory. It seems perfectly possible the flash illuminated a shiny bug as it was flying by and perhaps the haze if a reflection off the wings? I'd also have to say that it seems unlikely that its an "explosion". I own a Canon G5 (which is basically a G3 with one more megapixel) and it suffers from hellified chromatic aberation. I've seen happen from own flash on objects 30-40 feet away. I'd say whatever the light source was in that picture had to have been rather diffuse otherwise there would've been "purple fringing"

  360. If it was smoke by iowaporter · · Score: 1

    You would be correct if the streak was a smoke trail.
    More likely, it is the falling (or rising) object exposed over time (1/19 sec).
    My favorite theory is that it is a rising bug. The spark at the lowest point is a reflection of the camera flash (it did flash).
    The position of the lightpole is a coincidence.

    1. Re:If it was smoke by Alien54 · · Score: 1

      The straightness of the trail seems to eliminate bugs. It is perfectly straight.

      --
      "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
    2. Re:If it was smoke by hanche · · Score: 1
      The straightness of the trail seems to eliminate bugs. It is perfectly straight.

      It is not

      perfectly

      straight, as you'll find out if you draw a straight line next to it with your favourite image editor. Is it such a surprise that an insect carried on a moderate wind can have a nearly straight trajectory over a time span of 1/20 s? I think not.
  361. Damn Romulans! by ishpeck · · Score: 1

    It's somebody lighting a cigarette while in a cloaked romulan warbird. One of the old kinds. . . with the shoddy cloaking devices.

    --

    "If I were to ask you a hypothetical question, what would you like it to be about?"

  362. Raindrop Theory by Ackibat · · Score: 1

    I think it might be a raindrop streaking across in front of the camera lens, reflecting the sunlit sky. It looks like it's about to rain. The wind would cause the raindrop to slant. It's just a coincidence that the lamppost is in the same location as the raindrop's reflection.

  363. It wasn't a bug by HerbanLegend · · Score: 1

    I think I can prove it isn't a bug. If you look at the before-during-after photos in sequence, there is some specular highlighting that goes on in the foreground during the flash. This means that the light of the flash was reflected off the ground. Look closely, and you'll see several pixels light up in the "parking lot" area during the "blast".

    So any solution that relies on the flash being very close to the camera has to be wrong, unless you can explain the reflection off the asphault of the parking lot some other way.

    1. Re:It wasn't a bug by hanche · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Look closely, and you'll see several pixels light up in the "parking lot" area during the "blast".

      All I see looks like sensor noise, with the odd bits of jpeg artifacts thrown in.

  364. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great link. Cecil Adams knows all.

  365. some kind of spirit.. by auspiv · · Score: 1

    I am really suprised that nobody has suggested what I thought of. The lighter "thing" at the tip of the light post looks like some kind of a spirit. The dark line was it's flight path and it went throught the light causing it to malfunction. Just my thoughts...

  366. A Strange Streak Imaged in Australia by locyr · · Score: 1

    I am not sure that we can definitely resolve this (it would be a surprise to me if I could given the small amount of information available), but this discussion doesn't seem to be following very strict logic, and perhaps I can help a bit there. To begin with, we should all keep in mind that to have the discussion at all we must discount hoaxes both by and *upon* the photographer. We must make this leap of faith (no offense intended to Mr Pryde), but should always keep it in the back of our minds. Having taken this step, lets not forget (as many here seem to have done) what data we are offered. For example, the lamp "in" the fireball "was not working" after the picture. I think we can presume that we would have been explicitly told if it had been exploded or melted, and we were not. It is not possible for me, at least, to definitively determine the scale of the event. It does seem to me that if the fireball was real, and had enveloped the lamp, there would likely remain some sign of it. Likewise if it was real and exploded behind the lamp, we would hope to see the lamp outlined in it. Neither is the case. Thus it seems likely that the event happened *in front of* the lamp. If this is the case, then we have no reason to think that the event was very big, and in fact if it was very close to the camera it might have been quite small. A close look at the fireball shows a clear/white "shock wave" somewhat separate from the yellow fireball itself. If the lens opened a bit before the flash was taken, and if the fireball was quite close to the camera, then we can imagine (as one possibility) something coming obliquely at the camera across the little bay, exploding in front of the camera just as the lens opened, leaving a small cloud of smoke or dust in a shock front which was then illuminated by the flash. I do not say "this is what happened". And I have heard experts say this could not have been a meteor. But if a small meteor *nearly* hit the ground but the last remnant exploded (admittedly producing no fragments, so it wasn't likely a iron meteor. Perhaps it was just an icy remnant of a more complex body) near the front of the camera, coincidentally in line with the lamp post, it seems that the result would look very much like this picture. The fact that it was closer, and thus smaller than it appears, might explain why there are no signs of the explosion or trail in the next frame, 15 seconds later, as one might expect if the event were larger and farther away. If we accept that the event was small and close to the camera, we can probably find other explanations, but I confess that I like the small meteorite explanation best given the circumstances. ./Leigh Clayton [Toronto, Canada]

  367. Anyone surveyed the alleged damage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone run out to that dock and check the light and dock for damage.

  368. I've seen these lots of times by radinator · · Score: 1

    It's the shadow of a contrail. The atmosphere has some haze, so the sunlight is reflecting off the air in all areas but the contrail shadow.

    The list portion of the cloud on the right indicates that the sun is above and to the left of the photo, exactly where it would be to make such a shadow.

    As a pilot, I've seen this while flying a couple of times, and a few times from the ground. Watch carefully the next time a contrail is exactly in line with the sun (so from your POV the contrail crosses the sun).

  369. A straightforward "lens flare" explanation ... by Xcott+Craver · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The sun is behind the camera, and the light flash is very close to being inline with the sun. Plus, it occurs at a point where a (decently reflective) man-made object happens to be.

    This leads me to suspect that the sun reflected intermittently in the glass of the lamp. The tiny "smoke" trail you see around the light looks very much like the light trails that are generated by a point source, such as a candle flame, when a camera vibrates a bit during an exposure.

    How could a reflection be intermittent? I suppose if the top of the light pole was moving around a bit, say from wind or waves, you could have this happen.

    This does not explain the diagonal streak, but a plausible explanation is that the streak is a lens flare from the point flash.

    Xcott

    1. Re:A straightforward "lens flare" explanation ... by fiber_halo · · Score: 1

      Excellent description... That's the most logical explanation I've read so far..

      Thanks for the post.

    2. Re:A straightforward "lens flare" explanation ... by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Except lens flares aren't dark, they're brighter than the background. Otherwise a good explanation.

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      True confidence comes not from realising you are as good as your peers, but that your peers are as bad as you are.
  370. No, really. by Quasar+Sera · · Score: 1

    It's Moya.

  371. I think I know what it is... by Keitanu · · Score: 1

    If you double-click the image a few times, it expands, right? Well, I did that a couple of times and I think that I know what it is. I've seen people who said it was a light from a pole, a meteor, an insect; I've seen a whole bunch of things. The insect theory doesn't really hold up when you think about it; how do you explain the flash of light? A trick of the light and/or light from the poles doesn't explain it either; a trick of the light would be more spread out, and none of the other poles are lit up like that, so the only thing that could be happening there is an exploding bulb. I think that the streak is a piece of hair or something, but that it's unrelated to the flash of "light". I think it rather unlikely that the "light" is natural at all. My theory is that the film was damaged or mishandled at some point. It looks like a flaw in the film close up, particularly the "mist" around the light pole. It may have been slightly torn or something. If that were a natural phenomenon, you would have SEEN it; it would've been visible to the naked eye. Yet the photographer saw nothing, and nothing showed up on pictures taken immediately before and after this image. This is why I think that this is the most likely theory.

    1. Re:I think I know what it is... by hanche · · Score: 1

      The insect theory doesn't really hold up when you think about it; how do you explain the flash of light?

      Easy; an insect close to the camera, out of focus and intensely lit up by the camera flash will look just like that.

  372. NOT photoshopped, and here's why by Travis+Fisher · · Score: 1
    As many people above pointed out, there is interesting meta-data contained in the JPEG comments sections of these files. This meta-data, for instance, tells that the file contains Exif meta-data, was produced by a Canon Powershot G3 with ACD Systems Digital Imaging, and gives a timestamp for the file. A tool like photoshop would change this meta-data. For instance, the shrunken image in the Astromonomy Picture of the Day site reports that it was produced by Adobe ImageReady.

    Yes, of course it would be possible for someone to use a JPEG tagger program to alter the meta-data of a photoshopped file. But would you think to do this? I wouldn't have. And for a mundane sort of mystery like this picture presents, why would you bother? There is no fame or fortune to be had by this photographer. Would you go not only to the trouble to photoshop the streak and flash into the picture, but also to cover your tracks by restoring the meta-data to fool people who look at the file with a binary editor or JPEG comment reader?

    On the other hand, this does raise an interesting question of how could one check that an image had been digitally edited? Modern digital cameras usually are configured to compress the image (to JPEG or some other compressed form) before they even store it to flash memory. I wonder if there are particular tell-tale signs of repeated JPEG compression, like what would happen when the compressed camera image is decompressed, edited, and recompressed. It also may be possible to figure out which software produced the JPEG file by quirks of different implementations of the JPEG compression algorithm. The JPEG standard leaves room for different compressors to choose different data to discard to perform lossy compression, and it may be possible to determine from which data remains enough information to figure out what software produced the file.

  373. b52's overhead? by goon · · Score: 1
    '... You can see this dark streak almost every day in southern california, or almost anyplace that has contrails visible in the sky. When the contrail goes between you and the sun, you can see a dark band coming down from it. Watch for it! ...'

    there are no mention of the direction of the streak or the location of the photograph taken. but suprise suprise I see B52's
    regularly fly (thursdays at 0700 and 1600) a route E-NNW and visa versa which I presume is changeover crews to/from Diego Garcia (Camp Justice) leaving contrails. So it is possible that such trails exist on non comercial traffic routes. In the absence of commercial traffic at this height/direction (above 35'000 ft) If you not aware of the time/directions you may mistake it for something else.


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  374. Something you guys may be interested in by pingurslapp · · Score: 1

    http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11 599504%255E28102,00.html

    Is it just me or is this not the first sighting.

  375. It's a... by MeatNoodle · · Score: 1

    Hair on the lens. The flash may be the end of the hair catching some sunlight (squint facing the sun and see the glare off your eye lashes to see what I mean.)

    These frames are probably time-lapse, and so the hair blew onto the lens... snap a picture was taken... the hair blew away again... snap another picture.

    --
    "That's exactly what I said, only different."
  376. I know! by jonnystiph · · Score: 1

    It's the seam in the sky. See the ST:TOS "The earth is hollow for I have touched the sky"

    I am so Smart, S-M-R-T, I mean S-M-A-R-T

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  377. saw this on TV last night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The streak is caused by a swarm of cockroaches. I learned about this on the X-Files last night.

  378. Time between pics... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to the metadata in the pictures, they were taken 15 secs apart:

    Nov 22, 2004
    18:52:37
    18:52:52
    18:53:07

    Cheers,
    Psychoned

  379. Problem = Bulb Burn Out + JPEG Artifact by WaxParadigm · · Score: 1

    According to these exif headers in the parent post, the picture is JPEG, a compressed format. Without the RAW picture to analze, I'd pass the "tail" off as a possible artifact created by the JPEG creation software inside the camera as it dealt with the bright spot.

    Lights don't always burn out instantly, they can _burn_, which includes creating smoke. Depending on the conditions and that we're likely talking about a large filiment (like you see in the metal halide and similar industrial bulbs) it wouldn't surprise me if it burnt brightly for several seconds before (and into) when the picture was taken. This would explain seeing smoke and the bright light at the same time.

    The only thing left is ensuring that it's an appropriate time of day for lights to be on. It looks like some of the lights are on, and that it's dusk/dawn (the exif headers corroborate that it is dusk). Dusk is when automatic lights turn on.

    We're possibly seeing nothing more than a bulb burning out (during turn-on or soon there after, which would be a reasonable time given that this is when most bulbs have problems) and a JPEG artifact.

    I would like to see a picture from the night before and night after (they would likely show that that light is worked the one day and not the next, unless the maintanance guys are quick).

    1. Re:Problem = Bulb Burn Out + JPEG Artifact by WaxParadigm · · Score: 1

      Smoke could also be from failing transformer/ballist (or whatever you call the equivilant gadget a street light).

    2. Re:Problem = Bulb Burn Out + JPEG Artifact by fbjon · · Score: 1

      If a jpeg compression were that extensive, it would have to be because of a bug in the camera hardware. And if so, the streak is before the camera has to deal with the bright spot (which isn't that bright anyway).

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  380. Crikey by Cthefuture · · Score: 1

    So many weird explanations.

    Assuming it's not a doctored photo then to me it just looks like a meteorite impacting the water.

    With the angle of the sun and the sparse but dense clouds I would say the explosion/flash is just the sun reflecting off a splash of water.

    Look in the before/after pictures and you can see a small wave creating the same type of effect from the sun off the water.

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  381. not an artifact by esobofh · · Score: 1

    the sun is slow on the horizon, could be opposite that angle.. if it was something moving it would show an arc with gravitational pull.. nothing moves that fast. it's clearly a lens flare or reflection of some sort.

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  382. Yeah... uh, no. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    That sounds about 50,000 times less likely than space debris that _just_ grazes the post (or hits the water behind; not touching the lamp-post)

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  383. Is it a bird,is it a plane by sherby · · Score: 1

    It looks a lot like a seabird caught by the flashgun (bright flash == the eyes, 'smoke' around the light is the body + wings), with the dark streak being the bird exiting stage left. To get the eyes lit up the bird must have been flying towards the camera and must have been quite close to leave such a long streak. EXIF info in the images indicates that the exposure was long (1/20sec); a bird would probably cover about a metre-ish in that time, so the distance to the end of the track from the camera would have to be quite small (~a couple of metres). Or it could be a particle beam from one of those star wars satellites getting a bit trigger happy :-)

  384. More analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I also performed gimp-magic on the photos and obtained the following results:

    The streak is 1150 pixels long and lasts for .05 seconds, which means that if the object were as distant as the light post, it would be travelling at roughly 420 km/h, which is a decent estimate of terminal velocity. What concerns me most about this idea of things falling from the sky is the (apparently) flash and smoke at the bottom, which strikes me as highly uncharacteristic of projectiles hitting things which are not broken.

    Incidentally, 420 km/h is also a good estimate of the typical speed of a model rocket. The flash and smoke do look rather familiar to me as the shape you see when launching such rockets, although I would also expect the smoke plume at the bottom to be the same color as the smoke streak, which it clearly is not. I'm also not certain what variety of geek prefers to launch his model rockets from the tops of lightposts.

    I'm going to have to cast my vote now for "random defocused object illuminated by flash," mainly because there are, despite our efforts, still vastly more insects in the world than there are geeks with such strange habits.

  385. I must be hungry. by mh101 · · Score: 1

    I read the title as "A Strange Steak Imaged in Australia.

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  386. WIMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe this is a Weakly Interacting Massive Particle, it does not respond to EM fields, it just flys through the universe until it strikes somthing dense, like the ocean, creating a small explosion

  387. Let's get some facts down. by fbjon · · Score: 1

    It's certainly a bit suspicious. Looking at the EXIF tags, I don't understand why the time of taking/digitizing of the picture decreases with each successive picture. Also, those times (18:53:07, 18:52:52, and 18:52:37) suggest 15 seconds between each shot, not just a few, which can also be seen from the high cloud in the middle. Thus the boat to the far right is not "speeding", it is crawling forward at a low speed, and the reason the other boat is moving slightly is because it's drifting.

    Taking a look at the flash, it doesn't appear to be that bright. Basically, it's a yellowish blotch that partially obscures the pole nearest it.

    Looking at the long streak, we can note a few things: although slightly difficult to determine, the streak extends over the sky, slightly over the horizon, but not all the way to the flash; it's perfectly straight; it has an even width all across, and even intensity except the top part; it appears to fade out at the top end, and has disappeared by and even before the edge of the photo.

    Finally, the fuzz, or "mist" just to the right of the flash. It is not perpendicular to the long streak; it has a almost straight, but not curved, form. The form is like a line, just slightly bent in the middle towards the flash, with smaller, perpendicular oval blobs at the ends in the direction of the flash, and a curvation in the middle that goes around the flash. The middle curvation has a slightly square, not-quite-round shape.

    All of the really small details I mention could be false, due to the heavy compression, but the larger facts are definitely facts. I'm unsure if the pictures are recompressed. All the EXIF tags are intact, except for a mention of ACDsee, and a later modification date, probably the upload date from the camera. I don't know if the Canon PowerShot G3 can produce images with this much compression and low quality, but since it's not a cheapo camera, I highly doubt it. The camera was on auto-mode, which might explain the color and brightness change in the last picture.

    My Explanations:

    a) Something fell from the sky.
    Maybe, probably not. Different points on the trail are obviously not at different distances from the camera (even width), thus, the object has to be moving. The "shockwave" or "bow wave" in front of the object is not perpendicular to its path, and is also straight, not bow-formed. In any case, it's not coming from the clouds in the distance.

    b) Lightning.
    Unlikely. Doesn't explain the straight streak, doesn't explain why the smoke is below the flash, or spread out as it is while the flash is still occuring.

    c) Streak/mist is a sensor or lens artefact.
    Unlikely. Definitely not a sensor artefact, those do not come in diagonal versions. The mist could possibly resemble some lens flare, but is only on the right side of a fairly weak flash. The streak is darker than the background, lens flares are brighter.

    d) The lamp blew out.
    Unlikely. Explains the flash, and possibly the mist (or smoke), but shows the middle finger to the long straight streak. The streak is unlikely a shadow, since there's nothing to cast a shadow on in the middle of the air. The streak is, again, of even width all across, perpendicular to the camera lens axis. The thin streak is also not a shadow of a long pole.

    e) It's a fake.
    Likely.

    Any comments, corrections?

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    1. Re:Let's get some facts down. by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Sorry, some missing text: a) .... (even width), thus, the object has to be moving perpendicular to the lens axis, in which the small part tof its trail that can be seen could certainly be straight. The shockwave ......

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    2. Re:Let's get some facts down. by ZenShadow · · Score: 1

      I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusions, but I thought I would point out that sensor artifacts on digital cameras most certainly *can* be diagonal, depending on the cause.

      As a simple example, somewhere in my archives I have a shot of city lights that I took with my 10D with a 30 second exposure; the result was 16-point star effect on all of the point sources. The only filter on the lens was a standard UV filter that I use to protect the lens from getting scratched.

      One possibility is that there was an extremely bright point source that was polarized in such a way that it caused a similar effect, but only partially...

      Just food for thought.

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    3. Re:Let's get some facts down. by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Ah, but I think that is hardly an effect because of the camera having a digital sensor? More like a lens effect, and they can look very strange sometimes, indeed. Although, a flare around a point source is unlikely to be in only one direction. And as you say, it's a 16-point star, not a 1-point one.

      My point was to separate these effects, to clarify their separateness; lens-, sensor-, and film artefacts all look different, and any one single imaging device may (possibly) exhibit 2 of these (and maybe more?).But But I can't imagine any one of them that can both show a dark 1-point star from a moderately lit almost-point source light, and that can be applied in this case. The CCD fatigue+camera panning before picture theory is a nice one, but the trail is too straight, and the pics are aligned.

      Moreover, someone pointed out that a street lamp is unlikely to explode, and it might likely be morning anyway, in which case the lamp would be turning off. And it's even likely not a lamp post, but a ship's mast which is close to the flash.
      So the possibilities amount to: meteorite (in front, at, or behind the pole), a spider swingin' by or other bug, a wicked coincidence of unknown flash+contrail shadow (it doesn't necessarily stretch over the horizon, it may just be an illusion), or a fake.

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    4. Re:Let's get some facts down. by wem122 · · Score: 1

      I don't claim to know anything about the forenzics of photography... But I do know that there are some occurances which have no TRULY plausible explinations. Thus proving that some things are "Stranger Than Fiction".

  388. Re:Those pictures have got to be in the wrong orde by Uncle+Jimmy · · Score: 1

    Clouds always billow inwards in the southern hemisphere.

  389. Inspect the Post! by rchoetzlein · · Score: 1

    Look guys.. Assuming its not a hoax, it's clear something hit the top of that post. The brightest area of the flash is to the bottom right of the very top of the post, which is consistent with a high-speed object coming in from the top left of the image, hitting the post, and producing a flash to the bottom-right of the impact point. Even the cloud around the flash is in the right direction, perpendicular to the dark streak. The dark streak is consistent, and the exposure would be darker so long as the moving object is not on fire or giving off light itself. My advise: Inspect the post! To say that "the street light doesn't work" is not nearly enough info! The lightbulb doesn't have to smash to produce a flash from a high-speed object. It most likely hit the steel pole, or the steel cover on the >top of the bulb dome. It could have just nicked the post at the top. My advice: 1) Climb to the top. 2) Take high-res pictures all over the top of the post. 3) Collect dust and look at it under a microscope. 4) Compare to neighboring posts. I'd like to know what it is too...

  390. Re:Some numbers - the dark streak is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chemtrail people will tell you the dark is streak is know as DOR. The bright flash is a portal.

    Your assignment Mr.Phelps is to find out what this DOR is.

    Cliff

  391. A Strange Streak Imaged in Australia by lightfootcheroke · · Score: 1

    The answer is obvious. The camera caught the exact moment that the lightbulb burned out. When a lightbulb burns out it emits a bright flash of light. Ever see one burn out at home when the switch is turned on. The streak is caused by the cameras reaction to the bright flash of light from the bulb.

  392. A Strange Streak Imaged in Australia by lightfootcheroke · · Score: 1

    The answer is obvious.
    The camera caught the exact moment that the lightbulb burned out. When a lightbulb burns out it emits a bright flash of light. Ever see one burn out at home when the switch is turned on.
    The streak is caused by the cameras reaction to the bright flash of light from the bulb.

  393. uhh... MTHEL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like the aussies are testing the Mobile Tactical High-Energy Laser (MTHEL), Missle Defense System.

  394. why why why? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    Why doesn't someone just bother to look at the fucking street lamp which was supposedly shattered and solve the goddamn "problem"?

    Fucking scientists. :P

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  395. The answer is obvious by lightfootcheroke · · Score: 1

    The camera caught the exact moment that the lightbulb burned out. When a lightbulb burns out it emits a bright flash of light. Ever see one burn out at home when the switch is turned on.
    The streak is caused by the cameras reaction to the bright flash of light from the bulb.

  396. I Have Seen This Before Now by Pooua · · Score: 1
    I have observed streaks like these. In fact, I had an encounter with a sky-streak, several years ago, which I have recounted in my online diary:

    Intersection

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  397. Fraud by havardi · · Score: 1

    I can see that the area of 851,1029, (the streetlight that is still lit)-- is the EXACT same in the 2nd and 3rd frame. You can even see the box-shaped halo around the area.

    Why didn't noise affect this area like it did for every other pixel-- it was copied and pasted!

    1. Re:Fraud by havardi · · Score: 1

      Wow I'm an idiot. I accidently cut and pasted it myself while trying to compare the light levels in the two frames. Kill me.

      Ok, to redeem myself, there are possibly two witnesses in this photo- under the trees at 770,1162 there is a car. In the last frame a person appears to be beside the car, possibly getting out after seeing or hearing whatever happened.

      Also, at 380,1231 there is an object in the first frame that seems to disappear in the next two.

      Lastly, at 2244,1018 there is a light that seems to wink out at the same time as this event.

      sigh

  398. I have seen a black streak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On November 26, maybe it was the 27th, I was in rural Minnesota enjoying a camp fire with a two other people.

    At approximately 2 a.m., central timezone, we observed a very distinct black streak in the clouds. The moon was backlighting the clouds. The streak was moving sideways across the clouds.

    After discussing the phenomena we thought it may have been the shadow of a high level aircraft contrail cast upon the tops of the clouds.

    I think in Minnesota there are military aircraft stationed in St. Paul, Minneapolis and Duluth.

    It was very eerie to watch!

  399. Photoshopped, and here's why II by Alien54 · · Score: 1
    Take for example this nifty product:

    CrossIPTC software for digital pictures is a repair and cross-platform conversion tool to efficiently exchange IPTC metadata using extended characters between Windows and Macintosh platforms. CrossIPTC rewrites IPTC accents for Windows when created by a Macintosh computer [or vice-versa] to ensure compatibility and properly display author, captions, keywords, categories, credits and origins information containing texts with accents. Some CrossIPTC Features : - Mass conversion of extended characters into IPTC fields. - Translates Macintosh accents to Windows accents or Windows accents to Macintosh characters. - Works with all standard IPTC fields and with customised (non-standard) fields - Displays IPTC metadata information for each image - Lets you copy image IPTC data set to clipboard when browsing folder images. - Allows to display captured IPTC character strings, in Hexadecimal values - Optionally keeps a copy of input files to a backup folder. - Customization of period interval between two scans for processing - Language: English Designed to facilitate images and digital photos transmission, CrossIPTC enables automatic stock photography conversion during migration from one platform to another executing a mass repair on IPTC File Info fields added to JPEG or TIFF pictures: it translates Macintosh extended characters to Windows characters or Windows accents to Macintosh accents. Since extended characters are absolutely necessary for example in French, German, Portuguese and Spanish texts, no more need to avoid the use of accents for the description of digital pictures to treat by the other platform: the images are always tagged with appropriate accuracy to allow a good cataloguing and indexation. CrossIPTC works with all standard IPTC fields and with customised (non-standard) fields.

    Other similar tools are available, of course, and could be well known to a photo geek. Of course, selling the rights to the photo means hundreds if not thousands of dollars in reproduction rights. Nothing outrageous. Just extra beer money.

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  400. Not an insect. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By overlaying the next photo in the series on top of an inverted version of the main image, it is evident the mystery vapor is between the pole and the tree.

    So, on the imaginary z axis, it goes like this: 1. Camera, 2. Tree, 3. Mystery Vapor, 4. Pole, 5. Water, 6. Horizon.

  401. Only a fly by sodul · · Score: 1

    I've done some photoshop on the picture an the "flash" and "smoke" is actually a bug, the head body and wings are clearly visible:

  402. An intriguing dark streak... by Chili-71 · · Score: 1

    I've actually seen hundreds of these, but I've never seen one captured (film or digital image). It's not a freak camera malfunction or some one's hoax - they are real. They always transverse at about the same inclination: I've never seen a truly vertical one. What are they? I think they are probably conduits to heaven for souls, but noone's going to buy that.

  403. Bug Report by qwepoi198273 · · Score: 1

    Well done! Clearly a bug! Or, as we like to say in the biz, "an undocumented feature".

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  404. Strange streak in Australia. Suck it & see by lynx321 · · Score: 1

    As they used to say: suck it & see.i.e.Experiment: Arrange to blow a bulb in light on similar weather day at same place & time & film or video it. If same streak results well & good & all Slashdot scienists, philosophers & assorted jokers can shut up. If no streak keep repeating experiment till get one as this joker thinks you're certain to get it sooner or later, depending on weather. To blow bulb: switch power off, screw in a coin under bulb(in my day for house lights it used to be a sixpenny piece)switch power on -- beautiful flash!!! But another coin will do If Oz iz out of 6d pieces, or a correctly folded piece of silver paper. If you have friends at the local power station, municipal/port/park electricity switch the on/off problem is easy, if not then interest the local/world media & it may come to pass. But for God's sake shut up & try it.