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Nerds Make Better Lovers
ultimabaka writes "The New York Daily News, fine bastion of reporting that it is, released an article today discussing the rise of nerd popularity among women in general, and famous women in particular. Detail is given into the dating exploits of Christina Aguilera and Elin Nordegren (nerdy Tiger Woods' supermodel squeeze), among a bunch of regular Janes. Apparently being a nerd is now in?"
Of course we're better lovers.. it's because (among other things):
:-D
- we don't sleep around
- we're generally good at the things we try
- we can concentrate, dammit!
- we have *excellent* finger dexterity
- and most importantly, we have imagination!
more here >>
The day is mine!
Game... blouses.
_rich_ nerds make better "lovers"
Kiss me, I'm a nerd.
So being a rich, well-televised sports figure now makes you a nerd? Interesting.
Sure, they figure it out now that I'm married and totally committed, but noooooo, 15 years ago when I was 18 and single no one figured it out.
It sucks to be a trailblazer sometimes. You young nerds got it easy. Back in my day a cute girlfriend was GIF pr0n & a bottle of lotion.
As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.
After years of hiding my computer literacy, learning to be sensistive, eye surgery to remove the glasses and working out six days a week I learn that I should have perfected my C++ programming instead to get the babes!!!
So long and thanks for all the fish . . . !!!
Only a geek knows how to fsck well.
- Just because we CAN do a thing, does not mean we SHOULD do that thing.
rich nerds are now in.
R.I.P.
2000 years on, and it finally comes true.
OK, I really don't think that Tiger Woods (or any of the other guys mentioned in the article) fit the definition of 'nerd' the way we use it around here on /.
Saturday, May 21st 2005
Saw him in the evening and he was acting really strangely. I went shopping in the afternoon with the girls and I did turn up a bit late so thought it might be that. The bar was really crowded and loud so I suggested we go somewhere quieter to talk. He was still very subdued and distracted so I suggested we go somewhere nice to eat. All through dinner he just didn't seem himself; he hardly laughed and didn't seem to be paying any attention to me or to what I was saying. I just knew that something was wrong. He dropped me back home and I wondered if he was going to come in; he hesitated but followed. I asked him again if there was something the matter but he just half shook his head and turned the television on. After about 10 minutes of Silence, I said I was going upstairs to bed. I put my arms around him and told him that I loved him deeply. He just gave a sigh and a sad sort of smile. He didn't follow me up but later he did, and I was surprised when we made love. He still seemed distant and a bit cold, and I started to think that he was going to leave me and that he had found someone else. I cried myself to sleep.
MAN'S DIARY:
Saturday, May 21st 2005
Apple switched to Intel.
Absolutely gutted.
Got a shag though.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
They have no reservations about coming out and saying that it's money that attracts women to geeks and nerds. Thanks for that tidbit of several thousand year old news.
~Someday, I hope to be an aspiring author.
In the short term, nerds are obviously better lovers because they haven't gotten any their whole life, so they are making up for lost opportunities.
In the long term I would suspect that they would be more loyal to their lovers than non-nerds because they know that the chances of them getting any more from someone else are less than average.
Just because nerd popularity among women in general is rising does not mean you should stop showering. In fact, you should probably do it more.
And change your shirt.
Women love nerds (apparently) but no one likes a dirty nerd.
-Teiresias
Of course we're better lovers.. it's because (among other things):
/. nerds expect their women (or men) to be, uh, open source (fill in your own version of the gpl here).
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Girls wearing "I love dorks" shirts. Annoying, and not necessarily a new fad(although it IS a fad). Now, most everyone I know is claiming their dorkishness. For the first time in its history, there are dork poseurs. We have inherited the problem of the punk rockers and goths before us.
I always thought http://users.ox.ac.uk/~scat1312/geek.html/ sums it up rather well.
Are these women mostly nerds as well?
I don't know if I'd label the examples used in the Article as 'Nerds' per say. David Arquette, Tiger Woods, and Adam Brody aren't probably coding some new linux module. Besides, they aren't really 'nerds' or 'geeks' anyway. If Christina Aguilera was hooking up with say, Richard Stallman, then yeah maybe I'd consider this a valid point. It seems as though instead of being a nerd, the image of being slightly geeky is considered in style.
Sure, a lot of people will look at this and say "nerds... they'll have no experience" and stop there.
But I think the important thing to note is that most nerds are in my experience, a lot less selfish than the average person in their community. And selfishness in bed is _bad_.
The same lack of selfishness also explains open source software, free SF fanzines, and a whole wide range of nerdy behaviour.
Apparently being a nerd is now in?
Let me check my messages.....
0. Nope, still the status quo here!
Bryan R.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, or $12.50 as seen on eBay.....
They might make better lovers for a while, but the chick will leave for a badass.
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Her: Make love to me! Him: Sorry I gotta configure my kernel and then recompile it with -O3. Her: Baby you drive me wild. *jumps on him*
You idiot, it's UNIX, not Eunuchs!
I will say what you did took some, er.... Nevermind.
Soko
"Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm." - Anonymous
Maybe Dilbert's ill fated office romance can now be released to the public!
-- dK
Only in NY Daily News' bizzaro world would a 6'2" guy with rippling muscles, can hit a ball 350 yards with a driver, has WORLD-CLASS hand-eye-coordination, and was routinely named as the MOST AVAILABLE BACHELOR IN THE WORLD (before he got married) would be described as "nerdy".
Yeah, and I hear Brad Pitt is practically a hermit.
Revenge of the Nerds:
Louis: Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex.
You've read 'Distress' by Greg Egan, haven't you?
Don't forget to have the sexual identity portions of your brain surgically removed.
Technoli
Being a nerd will never be "in"... However, being a nerd with lots money will ALWAYS be in.
Bravery?
Transcend Humanity. Please.
Ever since I saw Revenge of the Nerds (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088000/) in 4th grade, I knew this to be true.
However, now that I'm at the age where this could come in handy, I feel strangely misled...
...when the Nerds have the dough-re-mi.
Besides, a top pro athlete (okay, it's golf, but you get my point) and a young top record exec are hardly the classic definitions of 'nerd.'
When the Number 3 Guy in something like the Free Software Foundation -- you know, the under-paid smart one who does all the real work -- bags a supermodel, call me.
I'm not sure what planet has nerd criteria that Tiger fits into, but I know I don't want to go there.
If he's now a nerd, what possible hope do *I* have left?
GTRacer
- Prefers "geek", actually
Defending IP by destroying access to it? That makes sense, RIAA/MPAA. Go to the corner until you can play nice!
Sounds like a blast. Sign me up!
Of course we do. My girlfriend has known that for months ;)
Hades, PoD: Official Advocate
Good luck to you. I'm sure most of the rest of us prefer to leave ourselves unmutilated, but more power to you.
The only downside I've found to having genitalia is that you sometimes spend far too much time wanking off while procrastinating. I don't think chopping my dick off will help in that matter, though. It's all a matter of self-discipline.
Slashdot is kind of like Playboy; we aren't here to read the articles.
(But, not for me)
Or, perhaps you already know this and have the domain registered and the site ready to go.
;)
wasnt this all explained to betty chiulds on the moon bounce a long long time ago?
can anyone say HOTel cORAL esSEX?
There's nothing Intelligent about Intelligent Design.
The article sucks. People are not so easily pigeonholed. If someone likes to watch the Sci-Fi channel, they are branded a 'geek'? What ever happened to shades of grey?
...Mom not right now! I am writing a story to the NYTimes to get some really l337 girls to talk to me and my uber clan! ...
Natalie Portman
This is a generalization based upon my experiences with friends who are also female. All of them, when they were younger, dated men who were just awful, useless individuals. They all gave the same reason for it also- so that they would be able to appreciate "Mr. Right" when they found him. Granted I think logic like that's just stupid, but there you go. The offshoot is that by the time a woman is ready to settle down with a guy, she's looking for the traits that nerds have; stable, monogomous, dedicated, etc. Even though the nerds are rewarded in the end, its still going to be the same useless men who get all the women in high school and college.
If brevity is the soul of wit, then how does one explain Twitter?
It's his wife who is the Nerd. Guys are not the only ones who can be Nerds.
The comment has already been made. Let's move it along people. Nothing to see here.
This is a surprise to anyone?
I mean, come on. We've got Sex Geeks the world over; nerds who put some of that single-minded focus into reading about, and learning about, how to be better lovers. And not just sexually, but emotionally and mentally.
We've always been there, quiet, under the radar, and making beautiful and long-term relationships work. And ones that were not only working, but hella sexy too.
"To pass through the jungle; silence, courtesy, ferocity, as the occasion demands." -- Kamau, "Proper Passage"
meh! You had it easy! We had ASCII art & a bag of sawdust!
In this classic (cough!) film the nerd 'hero' sleeps with the cheerleader heroine (he is in disguise as 'Darth Vader'), satisfying her mightily. She then discovers his identity, and asks how he can be such a fantastic lover, and he reveals the secret: "We nerds never have girlfriends, so all we do is think about sex." After all, it has been proven by science (scientists are nerds, remember) that the brain is the most important sexual organ. It has also recently been proven (again, by nerd scientists who sit at their computers all day) that just THINKING about exercising is almost as effective at increasing strength as actually exercising. Therefore, it makes sense that just thinking about sex must make you better at it.
Serving your airship needs since 1995.
The adrenals produce some testosterone. But I don't have any plans to take those out, or to get a lobotomy. There are people who have had nullifications done. It's a viable option.
Transcend Humanity. Please.
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
"Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex."
-Lewis 'Revenge of the Nerds'
Technoli
I must have missed the part where he taped his glasses together. What makes him a geek?
I don't think geeks are becoming more popular. I think we're just expanding the definition of "geek" until just about anyone can qualify. You wear glasses? You're in! Own a computer? Woah, how geeky! Damn, *and* a PDA??? You must be the ubergeek!
Seriously... being smart and tech savvy isn't enough to qualify for geek status any more. We need to raise the bar.
It's the land of the brave, and the home of the free
Where the less you know, the better off you'll be.
I'm glad their evidence is the set of Tiger Woods, Adam Brody, and David Arquette all whom are rich, famous, and celebrities in professional golf, television and movies. Ok, so they might not be stepping off a yacht in bespoke suits but really... this is what a geek is now? The day one of them obsesses openly about the GPL I might consider this anything but fluff... and probably one of those marketing hits for the website pimped in the article. Chicks ain't swooning en masse over your DIY distro of Linux yet.
What is music when you despise all sound?
Ok, we've got thousands of desperate and dateless geeks here. We're always complaining about the way corporate America manipulates public opinion through advertising and devious PR. And as a group we've proved the ability to raise millions of dollars for geek causes.
Anyone see where I'm going with this?
And can anyone suggeest a national PR firm that accepts PayPal?
Frankly I still procrastinate with the damn best of them! As a eunuch I can still even masturbate, although the urge is quite reduced.
Transcend Humanity. Please.
"Of course nerds are better lovers than jocks. Jocks think about sports all day while nerds think about sex all day"
Ok ok, its not an exact quote but I am at work and can't excatly go googling for the line!
Honor is like virtue, if you must tell people that you have it then chances are you don't.
Christina Aguilera is a nerd?!
"Nae Kin! Nae Quin! Nae laird! Nae master! We willna be fooled again!"
Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex.
--Lewis, Revenge of the Nerds
tell that to the guys in Akihabara.
This has got to be the dumbest thing ever. I love how every example is also filthy stinking rich. Next time I see a model hanging on bunch of Warhammer and Magic the Gathering types, I'll admit I'm wrong. Lame!
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Geek girl, geek girl, I've often overheard;
People say you're a dweeb, and often a nerd.
But I'm sure you're quite intriguing, I bet oh I bet;
Coding, gaming, and surfing, all over the 'Net.
Geek girl, geek girl, I hope you'll agree;
That we appreciate there are girls out there just like me.
Geek Of The Day, "A geeky place for geeky faces."
There are doctors who will do this without a therapist letter.
Transcend Humanity. Please.
This article is obviously a final, pathetic attempt by a desperate, desperate nerd to get some action swinging his way. Jebus be praised!
I knew it! I was right all along.
Now if only some actual women would heed this....
...but is it art?
Wild guess, but probably because it's GOLF.
We have secretly replaced these Slashdot mods' sense of humor with a rusty nail. Let's see if they notice!!
I am sure there will be a lot of comments on this article like "Yay! I can get a hottie!" now. However, speaking as a woman who has dated several geeks, I thought I would share a woman's perspective.
1) I can't tell you how many geek guys I know who can't even take care of their most basic personal hygiene needs. You need to shower at least once a day and use deodorant to become reasonably attractive to any woman. No woman is turned on by stinky body odor.
2) Self-confidence is attractive. Unfortunately, many geeks think self-confidence is something for guys who brag about every "conquest" they have. It's not. Self-confidence is simply respect and love for who you are. Love yourself first and good relationships will follow. This is difficult, but it's the key ingredient to any successful relationship. If you know who you are and you love who you are, people will love and respect you that much more.
3) Complaining/whining is not attractive. Some geeks have very bitter personalities and spend a lot of time whining about how the world would be a better place if only this or that. (The most common one I hear is whining about a job they're in.) If you complain, do something about it! Start your own business. Program something better on the side and sell it. Take control of the situation and create something better instead of griping.
4) Being a slave isn't attractive. If you make it clear that you'll do anything for a woman, and grovel for her affection, you're going to end up attracting the wrong type of woman. Any successful relationship is a two-way street. While there's nothing wrong with showing your love and affection, groveling only means you'll get taken advantage of and perhaps become bitter about (see #3.)
5) Lead a balanced life. No one is less attractive than someone who sits on a computer all day and never gets out of the house. Plus, it doesn't make for a healthy life of your own (I should know; I work from home and often spend 12-16 hours a day in front of the computer.) Get out there, meet people, and have fun. It will make you feel better about yourself to have a good group of friends around, as well.
I have been in several great relationships with geeky guys. I find the most successful relationships I have are with guys who already have a decent level of self-confidence and several friends who respect and love them. They may be interested in computers, but they are also interested in having fun and getting out of the house on a regular basis. Take this guide to heart and you can have a good relationship with the right woman as well.
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Like everyone else here, I don't think these guys are nerds, maybe a little geeky looking or maybe dorks(Tiger Woods is totally a dork), but not nerds. Geeky has been in for a while and money is always is in.
Thus, we can conclude that IT security at the New York Daily News is lax and some "nerd" has figured out a way to post prank stories. Expect a deluge of stories about the Duke Nukem Forever release party.
"Prepare for the worst - hope for the best."
Internet Porn.
We already know what works and what doesnt.
Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
Thank you, sweet zombie Jesus!
Did you know that "FTW" ("for the win") is a direct translation of "Sieg Heil"?
I think that this is a new meme.
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Ashton Kutcher (of MTV's "Punked") is producing Beauty and the Geek on the WB http://www.thewb.com/Shows/GenericShow/0,11116,22
I've enjoyed watching the geeks - learn to dance, get a massage, etc. And they're not viewd as pathetic boors - the girls (cute girls!) are learning to like them. too.
We are certain to have the biggest hard drives, and the longest uptime.
Next they will be calling MJ or Lebron James a Geek.. Jeez...
Ohhh that Brett Farve is such a geek because all he does is sit around and study Game film.
whatever..
So Long and Thanks for all the Fish.
This article said "nerd popularity"!
He says: "The only thing jocks think about is sports. The only thing nerds think about is sex". Love that movie.
Therefore, it makes sense that just thinking about sex must make you better at it.
Which explains, of course, why my inbox keeps getting filled day-in and day-out with male enhancement solicitations.....
Rule #1 -- Politics always trumps technology.
While they say they wan't a guy who is this and this. Most of the time they say they want a geek. But they don't want a geek from the start. They want to take a looser and slowly turn them into a geek. All the woman I have met have this image in their head of the perfect guy and they will only start falling for geeks after they realize that this guy in their head doesn't exist.
Sure if they fall for a geek they will probably be happer in the long run. Because we tend to have better jobs, Less violent temperments, Be being rejected for over 20 years we take a relationship much more seriously because they are so hard to get.
But I doubt that hot chicks will start knocking at our doors anytime soon. They will do what Woman have been doing for many many years. Dating with all the "Attractive" People. Then they realize that they are jerks then settle with a geek.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
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And as I kiss your rosy lips My server checks my email And as I lay down by your side My syslog's piped to tail.
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
From TFA:
"I think geeks are intelligent enough to be wary of the idea that an attractive woman is interested in them," he said. "They aren't as drawn to beauty as they are to intelligence, and wouldn't just accept a ditz."
Yea, we prefer ugly gold-diggers.
It takes the right kind of girl to love a nerd
Now that's the understatement of the year.
For a modern girl who is far from ditzy, the geek could be the mate who brings security and a load of eclectic interests to the relationship
"Hey babe, wanna see my collection of Linux distros?! I keep them in a rack made from an old 80s Mac case..."
Fat chicks doesnt count.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
And he'll laugh at you.
:)
Nerds in? Only a nerdy reporter would write such a thing. Poor guy probably hasnt been laid since the Nixon administration and that was only because he jacked off to the words "Deep throat" in the washington post article.
Nerds are not in. Have no fear wealth Americans, Girls still love money above all else. You're exotic 50 car collection is still a chick magnet, and they're still turned on by your ability to fire thousands of Americans and export their jobs to slave labor.
So go forth Nerds, with this silly idea that the Hott women of America want you.... It's certainly not true, but atleast you wont feel like a fucking loser anymore. Although I do
Star Wars movie openings and Trek conventions would be known as hot singles nights.
Dressing up for movie oenings (LotR, SW, ST) would be considered "men in uniform" and be totally irresistable... unless you're Chewbacca.
Hard drive size WOULD matter, not how fragmentented it is.
I would be getting laid.
Slashdot's rate-of-post filter: Preventing you from posting too many great ideas at once.
I think it's all a ploy by the NYDN to boost its web stats by stroking the egos of /.'rs :) I'd like to see the reaction of the writer would get if she (says Tracy, so I'm assuming) called Tiger a nerd to his face. I think the common denominator in all of those examples is $$$.
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"All jocks think about it sports. All nerds think about is sex." - Louis Skolnick, Revenge of the Nerds
1. It's not a choice, you can't help who you're attracted to.
2. Being attracted to a "geek" is logical - being attracted to a "stud" is emotional - guess which side rules women more strongly?
3. A friend of my and I both left the same company, some months apart. (She's a gal, I'm a guy). We were in a general discussion about dating, and I asked her who her fellow gals in Marketing were attracted to (I was fishing).
The guys they all wanted were big, stocky, masculine "macho" types. The nerd guys, even the ones I felt were at least OK looking, were NOT on the list...
It'll help if you're well-groomed and charming, but out of shape and ugly is still unattractive. You don't have to be a total jock, but there's a world of difference between fit and out-of-shape. Grooming is much the same- odd looks can be OK, but a ton of zits and greasy hair is never good.
Everyone likes someone who cares enough to at least *try* to present themselves well.
Singularity or not, this is something I have to do for myself.
Transcend Humanity. Please.
It has also recently been proven (again, by nerd scientists who sit at their computers all day) that just THINKING about exercising is almost as effective at increasing strength as actually exercising.
... find a geek girlfriend and make austistic babies.
What? Where is this study? I'm curious because I workout regularly (for the last 10 years) and although I'm in good shape, I never really developed an athletes body. Now, some part of that is surely genetics, but I'm wondering if lack of focus has an effect. I really only think about exercising when I'm actually doing it. As a programmer I am completely focused on that for 99% of the time I am awake. I wonder if the mere fact that I don't (or can't) think about being "big musclely dude" detracts from my potential in that area.
Meh, anyway... Let me tell you guys, you don't want the supermodel girlfriend. I have been down that road many times. Attractive (in the pop-culture sense) women may make good playthings for a while but make horrible long term relationships and even worse wives. I actually prefer to have long term relationships because then I don't want to waste energy thinking about that crap. So I guess
Save one for me though as I'm still trying to find a geek girlfriend.
The ratio of people to cake is too big
Hand eye coordination, concentration, and drive to achieve our goals are all fairly strong geek characteristics.
;-)
If it only wasn't for that big yellow burny thing in the sky... Noooooooooo!
What a shock. I think this years Pulitzer is spoken for!
Plays violent online games as: Nerfherder76
The entire article is something put out by a publicist for the Geek 2 Geek http://www.gk2gk.com/ dating site.
:)
Talks about geeks.. how cool they are. Flashes a few pics of celebrities and gives you a hyperlink in the articles text.
The Geek2Geek site only has 4 geeks looking for love within 1000 miles of me. One Girl and 3 Guys
If this was not a paid placement on slashdot, it should have been.
I Encrypt My IM's
yuppers...nerds are better. Except that they like to touch your computer stuff...
...no two people are not on fire.
Man, you've got balls.
I don't care. I'll be forwarding this to all the hot chicks where I work...
I'm extraordinarily attractive, and a genius to boot. The great thing is, I'm not the least bit cocky about it. Women love that.
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Fuck. 10 years too late for *this* nerd... I coulda done with this kinda PR when I was 23!
I didn't regret it once I had my balls taken out. I will not regret it once the rest is cut off either.
Transcend Humanity. Please.
W
T
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Forget the whales - save the babies.
It's actually cheetos. While trying to figure out where the Mountain Dew is as you're attacking the darkness with Magic Missle.
Mercy was given to me by Christ...I must give the same to others.
Things to think about once my paladin hits level 60.
"Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex."
--- -a- "I'd love to change the world, but it'd be easier if the universe exposed its API."
Took some Cajones? Bollocks? [Yes, work-safe]
It must be Windows. It needs half a gig of RAM and a hardware-accelerated graphics card just to run Solitaire.
I can get a date, I'll just show the girl a print out of the New York Times article, then she can't resist mauauhahahahahahh.
But really they covered that nerds are better lovers in "Revenge of the Nerds."
Its shocking that nobody has brought up Revenge of the Nerds where one of the nerds gets it on with the hot cheerleader who doesn't know it's him because he's got a Darth Vader costume on.
When they're done having sex and he takes off the mask the girl is surprised that nerds are such good lovers. She asks him why and he replies it's because all jocks have on their mind is sports, while all nerds have on their mind is sex.
y0, best lovers are gangsta rappin rich pimpin nerds
personals.slashdot.com anyone?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The story is a dupe, the topic is boring, the facts weren't checked. WE GET IT!!
...who notices that the URL implies it's a Generic Show? WE NERDS ARE BEING USED, I tell ya!
You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
Now that that's out of the way, I can make a more rational response.
Women are attracted to intelligence and stability? As a femmegeek, I've known this for ages. What irks me about most of the comments is the reversion to early adolescence that marks these discussions. Using the experiences of high school as a benchmark for your entire life seems a really bass-ackwards thing to do. Almost nobody is, as a teenager, self-confident enough to choose a dating partner without regard to what your "friends" might say. And yes; women can be horribly self-absorbed and shallow. Even women who self-identify as "nerdy". Guess what, though: men can too, and in some ways, they can be even worse about it. I have, sadly, dated male geeks who wanted me around because having an attractive female on their arm supposedly raised their status, somehow. Never mind that I was at least as intelligent as they were; they wanted a trophy, and nothing more. However, I've stuck with the high-IQ set, instead of lowering my standards, because I am attracted to intelligence. I think that many, many other women out there are as well, but given the still-prevalent expectation that "girls aren't..." (good at math, interested in science, fill in your stereotype of choice), most women are more than a little reluctant to admit it. The 50s-era maternal admonition of "boys don't like girls who are too smart" still echoes today.
Luckily, I never bought into it. So I sit here, posting on Slashdot, an intelligent, fit, good-looking geek woman, who isn't ashamed to admit the fact. And I think that I speak for a number of my fellow geekettes, gentlemen, when I say that smart is sexy. If you want to engage my hormones, engage my brain first. I'm not going to make hot sweaty snugglebunnies with anyone with whom I can't have a good conversation.
Doing my level best to piss off the religious right wing...
that you don't find someone who appreciates your nerdy qualities, and you fall in love with all your heart, and then marry them after 5 years and then a year later have them cheat on you with the salad maker illegal mexican immigrant from her work. That sucks - so be careful.
I am twenty-eight. I had my castration done by a MD urologist. I will have the nullification done by the same doctor. I can orgasm without balls, but it's not that good.
Transcend Humanity. Please.
Seriously, what is it with women? I tell them I have a 5 1/2" floppy and they can't wait to get me into bed!
First teachers sleeping with their students and now this?! All I gotta say why couldnt all this of been happening when I was growing up!!!!!!!!!
Buhahuhahuhahuha!
Don't call it femdom. PLEASE!
I will agree that there is a feminizing of men going on (the whole Metro thing) but do not think that you will be "on top" or you ahve a right to be on top. This is largely due to the Pill. It puts power back into women's hands. They get to control if and when they reproduce. It is this finals say that allows them to take on higher education, careers and become wealthy and a huge part of the economy with all the repurcussions therein.
I also admit in societies where everyone is equal, that typically women do end up in power, due to us being baby batter cannons and always following our lower heads.
But do not think that you are superior. Each sex has its strengths and weaknesses. Do not think that any sex is more powerful than the other. We need each other to survive.
The same time you spew all that female superiority BS I can throw out sites like this
I will agree though that women's place in society has suffered since the greek civilization. This is because they were the first ones to realize 1 man+1 woman= 1 child. Previous cultres assumed that the childs paternity was proportional to who the mother had slept with up to the time of conception. Greeks realized it was 1 man, and 1 man's only. This then put women into a position of sequestered in the mans house. Women have been digging out of that ever since. I think it is a travesty that it happened, and I do welcome you as equals but do not begin ever to think you are superior.
Slashdot's rate-of-post filter: Preventing you from posting too many great ideas at once.
I got pics. Look up Fen on kuro5hin.org.
Transcend Humanity. Please.
"All jocks think about it sports. All nerds think about is sex."
-- Louis Skolnick in Revenge of the Nerds
don't tell me you haven't yet figured out that for things to be very enjoyable for the majority of women (there are exceptions, but they are few and far between) you *do* need to use your fingers (in the manner implied) while you use the other parts you mentioned. Not to mention that having dexterous fingers is definitely an asset in 'warming things up' before 'progressing' to said parts.
-- the cake is a lie
The article is using a highly unusual definition of nerd: "A nerd is an excellent provider and a guy who puts you first," says E. Jean Carroll, Elle magazine's love and sex advice columnist. "He'll turn out to be a great father and a great husband."
It's not that nerds are better lovers. It's that they know how to overclock a vibrator.
No, completely wrong yet again. To hell with main stream media.
NERDS ARE NOT IN.
Geeks are. Geeks bathe.
Confidence is attractive. Don't confuse arrogance for self confidence. This is how the hot chicks end up with jerks.
"Self-confidence is simply respect and love for who you are."
I'll agree the respect part, but self-love == vanity and is nither confidence or attractive. Keeping a good appearance is part of self respect, checking ones self out in the mirror before having-at-it is the other.
If women could just make better distinctions between these couple things, they could weed out the jerks and not resort to nerds to avoid the A--holes.
that "Nerds Make Better Lovers" does that mean that they can develop and program a sex robot to pleasure themselves? I hope that the author didn't really think that nerds can actually get real live women did they?
I can come out of my mom's basement (Been living there since I got out of college in '89) , be totally socially inept, and yet.....find one hecuva attractive woman to have whatever gratuitous forms of physical pleasure I want.
Heidi Klum is on the market , right?
=)
"God of Rock, thank you for this chance to kick ass. "
So being a rich, well-televised sports figure now makes you a nerd? Interesting.
Conversely, being a nerd now makes you a rich, well-televised sports figure. Sigh.....
Lewis: "Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex."
(Revenge of the Nerds)
I agree entirely about the supermodel girls - nice to look at, nice to play with, generally want to bash what little brains they have out with a stick... Even when they're bright they have their heads so far up their damned arses they can see sunshine. Mostly.
Also, I've no idea why, but pretty much every girl I 'm ever interested in I get - which is great, but they always fall in love with me - which isn't great - because more often than not I get to know them and don't like them - I have fairly exacting standards. And I hate hurting people....
Anywho, I find the best path to take is one of general non-committal happiness... Also, being British and going for American girls is a real bonus. All you have to do is open your mouth and spit out some disgustingly overblown anglicism and they're like putty.
Mwahahahah...
Oh, and it's almost certainly genetics. Either that or you eat too much/wrong. Try cutting out pasta and bread. Works wonders.
Back in my day a cute girlfriend was GIF pr0n & a bottle of lotion.
I'm dating your' ex!
Is anyone watching this funny reality TV show? The second episode was aired last night on KTLA 5 (Los Angeles, CA, USA). The guys had to do massage stuff while the gals had to fine tune sport cars.
;)
I don't see how geeks and nerds can be better lovers from that show especially with Richard.
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
Things I wish I had really figured out earlier:
... couple days in the hospital disabused me of that notion). Do limit beer, bread, pasta, potatoes, and sugared candy though. Rum and Diet Coke can become the standard substitute for beer, and chicken on the Foreman grill can replace random microwave food amazingly well.
1) Don't stink. Yes, I know you can't tell. Nerd types have had enough cool things happen (code compiled, game beaten, etc) while utterly reeking that we lose the automatic association between hygiene and effective living. I'm serious, everyone else has it, we don't. So just accept:
a) In the morning, you must:
i: Shower. Soap everywhere. It's better to annoy people with longer showers than to annoy them with too short ones. A shower radio can help (this one has MP3 and a mirror for shaving!).
ii: Brush your teeth and use Listerine. At least occasionally floss.
iii: Put on underarm deodorant. I recommend antiperspirant gels. If you have recurring, serious problems anywhere you sweat alot -- it's fungus, and it needs to die. Tinactin works. If you're out in public, and realize your underarms stink -- squeeze teabags under your armpits in the bathroom. Works well (thank you, worse case scenario guide to sex and dating). Oh, those new body sprays (Axe, etc) may be budget cologne, but reactions to them ain't bad. Don't wear too much of it, though, and no it's not a replacement for a shower.
iv: Wear clean clothes. Your pants and your jacket are the only thing you can re-wear. Everything else goes in the biohazard pile.
b) After school or after work, if you're going out anywhere you need to impress anyone, you are generally expected to do all the above again. Annoying, sure. But even if you don't stink by dinner, you may start ripening by bedtime.
c) Your clothes must fit. Baggy is vastly better than too tight. Can't emphasize this enough. Wear a belt; people really hate seeing asscrack. Don't wear corporate tech t-shirts you got at a trade show, except for Google. They're an exception that proves the rule. Speaking of clothes, no visible pit stains, and if it's ever really, really stunk -- it needs to be washed in hot water, generally with bleach, or the bacteria and fungi that eat your sweat will be primed and ready to excrete the stuff that actually stinks. This is the idea behind undershirts and underwear, by the way. The bleach and hot water make your colored stuff fade.
Regarding wardrobe issues -- girls do like shopping with guys (Ken doll, they're not paying, get to be useful, etc), but you actually can't say things like "I dunno, whatever." Feedback is necessary, even if you don't actually know or care. So say things like, "Bring me two or three things, and I'll tell you which is my favorite of them." You actually get to be honest here -- she'll like all three, this ain't the SAT -- but be confident in whatever you answer, and frankly, it doesn't matter that much so answer quickly.
Shoes matter an absurd amount. Exercise shoes (Nike, Reebok) are only to be worn during exercise.
Regarding diet and exercise -- Atkins does work, but alot of people do end up sick (I was the biggest defender of the program
Exercise, it sucks, I know, they lie. But there's a trick: GBA/PSP while pedaling on a stationary bike works shockingly well, especially while playing an RPG.
If you've got some cash, getting a recumbent exercise bike and plopping it in front of your PS2/Xbox works really well too. Just link gaming to pedaling, and your body will think it's enjoying pedaling while your mind is enjoying the game. Weird, but it happens.
Just remember -- exercise is indeed boring, but it's a lot better than eight hours a day of hard labor.
d) This won't fix everything. There's a world of social learning you need to do. You can't learn the social elements from a Slashdot post (though I
Talk nerdy to me.
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If I were you, I would go around saying that at least one person figured it out back then, or else you're going to have a frying pan thrown at you tonight...
So you're saying there's a chance.
There are a lot of assumptions in this approach, which can easily lead to errors in thinking that make the process of finding someone much more difficult:
1. Thinking of 'women' as a monolithic entity. Their values and needs a diverse as that of any male. Be patient, and don't allow yourself to become either bitter or desperate. It's the emotional equivalent of leprosy. Don't give in to it.
2. You really should be thinking in terms of what YOU want, and how to get it. Ask yourself some hard questions about what you really want and why as part of this. Self-deception is wasted energy. What sort of person are you really after? We see this endless stream of leather anorexics with fake tits and fake personalities paraded as some sort of icon, but they're image is just another consumer product.
3. You are not a peer group. You are an individual. Listen to your friends and family, but think for yourself.
4.Quiet girls/quiet guys are the greatest untapped resource ever! Still waters run deep.
I'm curious. What is a real sport?
A real sport has at least two of the following:
* A ball
* A net
* Defense
Baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer, football, cricket all qualify. Golf, darts, auto racing, etc. all fail to qualify.
(Can you tell I'm from New York yet?)
Unix: Where
Maybe now that it is on Slashdot, she'll believe me.
I'm not a troll, but I play one on Slashdot.
"Finally, there's the issue of mood lighting. Nothing looks sexier than a man in boxer shorts illuminated only by a 15-inch SVGA monitor."
"Understand you're having a little Jimmy Page trouble."
I tend to believe the metrosexual men are in fashion; not necessarily nerdy men. No offense, but who wants to be with a person that sits around all day and reads book and sit behind a computer? It's not exactly what most people would consider fun and exciting.
And please don't take this as flamebait because that's definitely not what I have in mind. I'm just suggesting that the men listed are more metrosexual than nerdy.
My lame blog.
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...is chik.
You know where you are? You're in the $PATH, baby. You're gonna get executed!
... being a rich and/or successful and/or famous nerd is now in.
Flying is easy, just throw yourself at the ground and miss. -Douglas Adams
Oh, that the dynamic of attraction and relationships could be explained with the work 'geek' alone.
"We are all geniuses when we dream"
- E.M. Cioran
You're a geek, take an anthropology lesson from society.
Women are looking for providers. They can't help it. It makes sense. Who gets stuck with the baby for 15 years as it grows up? Not the bloke, he can wander off and father a dozen (a thousand?) more. It's just the same way you can't help looking for physically attractive females.
Why are men fascinated by money, cars, houses etc? Status items, evidence of their ability to provide. Why do women spend sooo much time on their appearance?
You want to be sexy to women? Look around you. Start looking and acting like someone who can provide.
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So, anyway, I was sitting in my usual bar, using the WiFi I had set up for them, and drinking Guinness.
Along came a lady.
She was attracted to me for some reason (she thinks I'm really cute), she bought me drinks, she ASKED ME OUT, and we've been together for nearly a year now.
Oh, did I mention she is really hot, sexy, smart, creative, and more than fifteen years younger than I am? Has more formal education than I, earns more money?
There's hope for you, my fellow geeks!
OUT OF MOM'S BASEMENT AND INTO THE STREETS!
It is amazing that nearly all the replies to this are completely stereotyped.
... all nerds. Perhaps it is popular in hollywood for chicks to date nerds, but who the f* cares what's going on in hollywood, it's all fake anyway!
Nerds saying that girls don't want guys who appear to be as stereotypical nerds appear. Followed up with sheep agreeing with them, or joking about the responce.
What do nerds look like?
Well, I've seen everything from the stereotype to punks with 2' tall mohawks to weight lifters to corporate types
it's a sig, wtf?
Somehow I don't think Tiger woods has ever troubleshooted a SCSI card or fired a Magic Missle (except on the greens). Ironically I recall Vin Diesel used to be a big D&D nerd.
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
Once I can get the anatomically correct robotic framework debugged I'll have a really good approximation of the BuffyBot!
I think the definition of who and what is a nerd has been stretched over time. Is it someone who is into a specific cultural meme (Star Trek, LofTR), someone who isn't into sports (that would excluse Tiger Woods), socially awkward (but why all the cons and fests?), someone who is into the nitty gritty of technology, or must they have something from all these? When they start claiming multimillionaire Hollywood actors are nerds I'd say that was pushing it.
I hate to say it but it looks like nerdom has been coopted by the mainstream just like skate boarding and rap music have been.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
2) Self-confidence is attractive. Unfortunately, many geeks think self-confidence is something for guys who brag about every "conquest" they have. It's not. Self-confidence is simply respect and love for who you are. Love yourself first and good relationships will follow. This is difficult, but it's the key ingredient to any successful relationship. If you know who you are and you love who you are, people will love and respect you that much more.
This is a pet-peeve of mine. Many women seem to think that confidence is something you choose to have. Granted, you say it is "difficult", but that isn't the whole story.
I am confident in my work. Did I just "try" and then gain it? No. I was given a shot by someone. A small company took a chance with me, and that experience, while not lasting, was successful. I now have 8 years of experience, and while there have been ups and downs, I have had enough positive experiences to have confidence that my future efforts will not be met with crushing failure.
On the other hand, I have never had a girlfriend. Lots of my female friends tell me and others that they find me attractive (I also have good hygene, and I'm not overweight) but that I likely don't have a girlfriend because of my lack of confidence.
I have never tasted success, so how do they expect me to have confidence? Every girl I had interest in from junior high, high school, and college turned me down. Every woman I have had interest in since I entered the workforce has turned me down. From everything I can gather, based on what they have told me or their friends, these women didn't turn me down because they were dramatically out of my league, but because they saw I didn't have much confidence, and didn't want to be my first. One woman actually did show interest in me until she found out I'd never had a girlfriend.
Someone has to be the first.
You and the previous posters are all dead right about self-confidence being sexy - in fact, self-confidence can make up for a lot of lacking physical attractiveness. So can a sense of humour.
Although hygene *IS* important.
If you are clean, and you are confident, and you don't whine or grovel, and you can be a little funny... you'll do just fine, even if you aren't going to be on any calendars anytime soon.
DG
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If Tiger Woods, a famous rich sportsman, qualifies as a geek then the scope of the term has been expanded to meaninglessnees.
If you look beyond the superficial you may find something worthwhile - nothing new here.
/, never mind...
Women are attracted to successful men - big surprise.
About the only thing they left out was that it's easier to meet a women when you're already in a relationship.
What I do find ironic is how it was all about geek men and hot women - not the reverse. While they are busy praising hot women who look beyond the guy's appearance and the joy they've found; there's nothing about Tom Cruise and a fat chick.
Geeks everywhere will take heart the they Have a chance (tm); completely missing that what they are doing (ranking looks high on the desirable list) is what they are bemoaning. Sure, it mentions that geeks don't want airheads (of course, the amount of airhead that is acceptable is in direct proportion to the hotness factor for most guys); but I bet you won't find many who would turn down an airheaded model for a smart, but much less physically attractive, women.
Women, as a group, are surprisningly rational when it comes to long term choices - and looks is only a small part of that equation.
Next time you're with some friends and see a hot chick with an average guy - watch the reaction - the guys wonder what she sees in him, the girls wonder what he has that attracted her. Oh wait, this is
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
"Jocks spend all their time thinking about sports... Nerds spend all their time thinking about sex."
I'm sorry, but this paragraph just drips with disrespect, and I find I can't let it pass unchallenged.
You've also, I believe, got it wrong: Geeks don't crave discipline and submission (honestly, when a world-class geek faces down a computer, which do you think does the submitting?). What we do like is structure and determinism. We would like the wetware world to be just as orderly and predictable as the software and hardware worlds. So if I, for example, performed activity X, and consistently received from you response Y, I would therefore presume that Y has something to do with X, and will build my mental models accordingly. OTOH, if I perform X, and I receive response mrand48(), then I would presume you're insane, and would be incapable of forming any kind of mental structure.
Geeks are uncomfortable when they don't know what to do because they don't know what the rules are -- because they don't know the structure. In this respect, dear lady, you hold a slight advantage in that such structure is often formalized in D/S (and no, I'm not going to lowercase the 'S' because I'm not that pretentious). But I think you're failing to note an inconsistency in your position. To wit:
When reading your post, one starts to form an opinion of where your obsession lies. You decry people obsessed with themselves, yet seem to grant yourself an exception. This incongruity, not to mention apparent disrespect for your partners (by referring to them as "subs" rather than more human terms), may well come back to bite you unpleasantly on the bottom if you're not cautious.
The only reason I bother to reply at all is because D/S can be a tremendously fun space to play in, but it's enormously frustrating to see D/S abused by people trying to, "prove something," or even to reflect the abuses they themselves endured. I am not accusing you of abuse. I've never met you, and therefore grant you the benefit of the doubt. Indeed, you are probably rather charming company. But working entirely from your post paints an unflattering picture. If you don't wish to be seen that way, you should re-examine how you articulate your position.
Schwab
Editor, A1-AAA AmeriCaptions
usually, this is attractive
Until something is blurted out like:
"Hey, you want to see my Star Wars action figure collection? I even have the original Boba Fett with the missile-firing backpack!"
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
I couldn't disagree more with the idea that self love == vanity. Self-delusion maybe, but not love.
Think about it. When you love someone, you know what their faults are, and although they might get on your nerves sometimes, you know that they're just part of what makes that person who they are. You know when they're going to do that thing, and sometimes you think it's cute or funny.
If you can't figure out what I'm talking about, think about your Mom or Dad for a moment.
Self-love is accepting yourself for all your traits, geeky and otherwise. Yes, not everyone finds your encyclopedic knowledge of FORTRAN or ST:TNG or crypto or as interesting as you find it. But the self-loving geek knows that, and has a sense of humor about it -- its just a PART of who you are.
And, it lays the foundation for love for someone else.
Not lust, or obsession, but actual love, the kind that could turn into a serious, long-lasting relationship.
Because EVERYONE has something geeky and quirky about them that will eventually either drive you crazy, or you'll accept and love it as part of what makes your love the person they are.
My love, for example, is a huge worrier and a geek in the areas of music and shoes. Sometimes this drives me nuts, but mostly I find it endearing and cute. At the moment, closet space is a problem, so the shoes are seeming less cute than they used to seem. And we've been married for 2.5 years.
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haha, I have thought about developing a fake foreign accent for that reason. I found it to be too much work though.
The biggest problem I see with meeting geeky people is that we hate socializing.
I'm thin not overweight so pasta and bread I need just maintain a decent weight. I have tried many different styles of eating over the years (eg. bodybuilder diet, etc.) and finally just chalked it up as genetics. That is until I see this mention of thinking about exercising.
The ratio of people to cake is too big
I have always said Psalm 37:11 Exhortation to Patience and Trust Of David says "But the meek shall inherit the land, and delight themselves in abundant prosperity." should read "But the geeks shall inherit the land, and delight themselves in abundant prosperity."
Scientia et Potentia
>>the brain is the most important sexual organ.
;-)
On you maybe.
Look dudes, if you want the ladies, you need to check out the High Status Male web site.
And if you think the ladies want a nerd, you're wrong - they want what some nerds have: lots of $$$ from cashing out during the dot-com days. And when your nerdy self is at work, they are out satisfying their physical needs with real men.
Mathematically, it's a numbers game. The more girls you talk to and ask out, the better your chances are of dating one. Don't worry about their feelings, etc., just pretend you are listening to them. They like it when you are slightly ignoring them because they see it as a challenge to do more to get your full attention.
Remember this - women are hardwired to be submissive. They are pre-programmed to search for someone who can make them feel secure. If you aren't manly enough to elicit this primitive feeling in a woman, then find a women who is more timid than you. Nice guys do finish last.
I have to disagree with you here, based purely on personal experience. I've been dating continuously in a lot of long term relationships for the last 6-7 years, and I've seen the opposite...
There are a lot of girls who love nerdy guys, big glasses are just a "mark of nerddom". Intelligent girls tend to love the conversations that a nerdy guy can sustain, and the dumb ones will usually love anime and think they're dating some internet-james-bond with "ooh but you can just hack their lives away" ideas, equating computer knowledge with some mystical power.
Additionally, introverts are VERY sexy. Introverts are very bad at interacting in a group, but once they find a single person to interact with that person will be the sole focus of their attention when they do spend time with them.
The only point you made I don't have any experience with is weight... I've been a vegan since I was 6 years old so I've never had a weight problem, but my personal experience definately goes contrary to all your other points.
Josh.
Open Your Mind. Open Your Source.
If being a nerd makes you a better lover, then why are these nerdy men cited in the article getting screwed by having to date these second-banana non-nerd "supermodel" chicks?
If nerds are the best lovers, then shouldn't the best couples be nerd-on-nerd? It just doesn't make any sense any other way.
Someone please set up Tiger Woods with Steve Urkel's sister, so he can find out what dating a real woman is all about!
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
FINALLY! I can get laid!!!!
---- You have been programmed by the Illuminati to not see the word ""!
You ever seen John Daly play a round of golf? The true definition of a sport follows:
Scoring is objective (none of this averaging judges scores crap)
There must be a ball involved.
It must always be played with a team.
Wheels cannot be used by any part of normal game equipment.
So if an American was to try and pick up a british chick, would the accent thing work for him too?
This is very true. Certainly sums me up.
No one's mentioned A Girl's Guide to Geek Guys!
personal attacks hurt, especially when deserved
Oh, this is shameless what I'm about to post, but here it goes.
If you want confirmation that geeks are at least somewhat popular with the ladies, check out the ThinkGeek web page that sells an "I [heart] My Geek" women's T-shirt. They have a whole bunch of shots of actual customers (girls) wearing the shirt, and some of them are babes. I mean, do girls this hot really date geeks? Apparently so, although I never knew.
It's sort of like dating a model, once you're in the club you start getting passed around like a jar of cheese dip at a late night slumber party. Pretty soon one of her friends would call with a computer problem and you'd wake up three days later at her house with a fixed computer and a tequila hangover from hell.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
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As an aside, why is it that everybody assumes the Tom Cruise-Katie Holmes crap is a setup for his and her movie promotion, but do NOT assume the same is true for Brad and Angie? Is it because everybody "knows" Tom is gay and a nutjob while everyone also "knows" that Brad and Angie are hot?
Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
I don't think you're going to actually get a reply, you very well might be the only female that reads /.
Assuming of course that you are female.
According the the PGA, anyway. Remember the court case against Casey Martin, the disabled golfer, that by allowing him to ride a cart, it would impair the integrity of the sport?
[Bender]Hey, what about Casey? If he rides a cart, we'll all ride a cart. It'll be anarchy. This is out of my hands now.[/Bender]
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Does that make things like skiing and pro-cycling not sports either? There's no net or defense in either of those.
Too bad none of those chicks will ever read that article. The only ones reading it are us, and I don't want to date you guys.
Paul.
You are lost in a twisty maze of little standards, all different.
Ok here is my story:
1st GF: animal in the sack, dirty girl, didn't last long, nothing else was there
2n GF: Geeky. Into computers like me, legally blind (240/20 in the bad eye, can NEVER drive). Dated a year and a half, talked about marriage & kids. Did love her a lot. Still think about her sometimes. She got very cold, wouldn't even let me hug her, NEXT! Doesn't even speak to me now, see next point.
Fling: I left gf #2 for this girl, didn't work out. Still friends though. Mostly online (MSN)
3rd Gf: Ended up not having time for me in her life. Works at a nuke plant. Not really a geek though, don't know how well it would have worked anyways.
4th GF: Plays drum in a scottish pipe bank. uses Firefox (instant turn on!), dones't mind that I am a huge geek (she loves thinkgeek.com too). Fell in love within a month, but no sex, she's a virgin and catholic (been going to church with her a bit.. not too sure how I feel about that yet), so wants a ring before we even live together, wasn't too sure I could deal with that.
Miskate: #3 has time for me now, went back to her (nookie possibility). Last week she calls me, she prego from someone she was seeing when I was seeing #4 for the first time. Thats done, I'm out.
#4 wants me back; saw her last sat. It's like nothing changed. Realized what body parts to think with. True love and friendship is better than sex! Besides, it will happen eventually. She may not even wait for marriage if were sure.
Us geek guys just have to find the right girl. Someone that can appriciate your finer points (nice guys, good in bed, faithful, good at fixing things, able to figure out the instrucation manual for something,etc..) and look past the things that some people may not like. I can honestly say that I am happy being a geek guy and wouln't change it for anyone!
K Man
Kim Polese?
Kim, baby, call me! Better yet, give me your number, I'll call you. No, wait, call me. Wait...
Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
for me, as I've gotten older I've gotten MUCH more attention from the ladies.
When I was 16, couldn't get a single date. Now that I'm in my late 20s, I have to turn women away.
Nerdiness is in!
Although I suspect that is also has a lot to do with the following. I'm black, and as politically incorrect as it may be to say; there aren't many attractive black men my age who do not have criminal records or a bunch of kids. When women get to the age where they're thinking about having a family, smart men who obey the law become a lot more desireable.
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
Nerd... a quick search of google presents us with the following specimen: THE NERD
So really what's going on here is that these rich jocks and art boys have called themselves nerds in order to mate higher up the food chain. Power to you rich dudes.
Now for what really makes a better lover: Study, listen, watch, breathe, hang out with, learn everything about your girl. Find out exactly where her buttons are (in and out of bed). Then, press away. It's like a piano, with practice you can make cool melodies. More concrete: study up on sex, improve your physique - yeah, that requires working out - and keep your humour and intelectual charm.
last of all tips: women aren't worth it anyway, don't bother.
Geek Break Up Lines
11. (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail? R
(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail? R
(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail? F
Relationship failed.
10. Now that Half Life 2 is out, I need to refocus my priorities.
9. You have been unsubscribed from my dating list. Please click this link to confirm.
8. I need a lover who understands that 20 hours a day on the Internet is normal.
7. I don't think we should date any more, but we can still be on each other's buddy lists.
6. I'd like a true beauty so I don't have to spend so much time photoshopping your ugly face out of our photos.
5. It's like in X-Men number 135, where Cyclops and Jean Grey (as The Phoenix)...
4. Let's face it. You love Intel, and I'm an AMD man. It's not going to work out.
3. What do you mean your EULA says that once I've removed the shrink wrap I can't return it?
2. After you e-mailed me your full-body shot, I realized I was looking
for someone more feminine
1. So long and thanks for all the fish.
I felt up a rape victom once... does that count?
:)
And no i didnt rape her
Now that you got your confidence pumped a bit with these news, go on and read this guide!
Seriously, it's not sarcasm, jokes or anything. It's two wpmen giving tips about relationships, building confidence, and so on, specifically for geeks.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Its quite apparent that mainstream society doesnt get it. I surely dont have girls knocking down my door. And I'm a somewhat affluent home-owning 24 year old guy.
The Doormat
If you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention.
Looks matter, but if you're going for looks alone, I guess you'll get what you deserve.
;-) (as long as we're doing the stereotype game, why not have some fun as well?)
Not commenting on the article, qualifying a multimillionaire as an average nerd is just too weird, but on the stupid posts on "how to date hot chicks" and "women are naturally submissive" which is indicative to how wrong this whole article is in the first place.
I know this is totally out there, but maybe the amount of dates you get may be an indication of how much you can dig women in general...
People (not only women, even men) are perceptive. They recognize humor (a big turn-on) and yes, even total obsession with sex, and lots of other factors that may be mutually attractive at one time or another. Looks matter, but so do a lot of things. Smell for instance
The sooner you can get over this whole inferiority-complex-turned-into-superiority gig, the better. It might give you a chance for a real life. Look around you if you can't speak from first hand experience, it's perfectly possible to be with a dream man/woman and still be utterly alone. Look for things that tend to stay and that really turn you on, not perfect tits (although it IS a nice bonus...)
Disclaimer: I used to be a total asshole, once I discovered the "tricks to date hot chicks". I'm sooooo glad I got over it somewhat intact.
BTW: anticipating the "sooo, what you're saying is you date UGLY chicks", my wife is pretty beautiful, not a super model though, but then again, neither am I. And the overall package (distro) is hard to beat, even if the competition has perfect tits.
I think, therefore I am...I think.
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printf("No");
while(TRUE);
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
Damn. At first glance, I thought that this story was about the appeal of nerdy women (the summary could have read that way). I was about to send it to my girly-girl bitch relatives who I don't talk to anymore because when I do, I get this "You're not feminine and not a real woman!" vibe from them. You know, the "Computers are Hard! I can't Sit At This Stupid Thing!" kinda women. Would have loved to shove such an article up their a*rses. Damn. (No, I'm not frumpy or ugly either)
Women have all sorts of tricks to get free attention. Geeks often don't have or use this skill... even if they know how. I've read Paul Graham's why geeks are geeks rant, but still you can be proactive about it.
Where a T-Shirt that says:
"If I can make a computer...
I can make you cum"
I bought one at tshirthell.com... It works.
Follow Me To Certain Death
I hate golf, you insensitive clod!
You can't handle the truth.
Hell, I've met various types of scientists at parties -- just gotta go to the right parties. Also, smarter and more evolved/refined people congregate together at parties, usually -- unless they're doing the white-picket-fence thing, which just isn't for me (or my SO, aren't I lucky!).
Also, give your geek some space to breathe, and work on work/hobbies/projects, and to visit other people. A little bit of space can go a loooong way.
Zhrodague.net - I do projects and stuff too.
I prefer them younger, however, so I only look at PNG.
Just don't tell my wife.
You have two hands and one brain, so always code twice as much as you think!
... we have access to the world's largest repository of porn, and therefore we know all the positions, where the clitoris is and how to spit on your cock for a bit of anal invasion.
An artist, lawyer and programmer are sitting at a pub, having a few drink and soon the conversation turns towards cheating on their wives.
:)
The lawyer pipes up. "Don't do it guys, I don't care how pretty she is. I see this every day in my profession, some fool cheats on his wife with some pretty little thing, she finds out, before you know it he's lost half his house, half his assets, half his future paycheck and can't even see his kids any more...And with all that stress, it's just not worth it."
Then the artist pipes in. "no no no no...life is for living...how can you live in fear like that. Imagine the romance...the passion...the secrecy and mystery. That is what life is about my friend, who cares if you get caught, life should be lived dangerously and passionately."
The programmer looks up over his glasses and says "yeah, I've got mistress...have had one for quite a few years now".
The lawyer and artist are shocked. The certainly wouldn't have expected that from thier geeky little friend. The artist pipes up:
"Oh my friend...tell us, what's it like. Are you always stressed out worried about what you could loose...is it passionate and wonderful...what?"
The programmer looks up again and say "It's great...best thing I've every done.........wife thinks I'm with the girlfriend, girlfriend thinks I'm with the wife, I can go get some coding done."
boom tish
In my days we had no GIFs, it was all punch cards. And with those you didn't need lotion!
You can't handle the truth.
there are even romance novels about nerds, so my wife informs me. Something about "Nerd in shining armor by Vicki Lewis Thompson".
Stop signs are only Suggestions
DOS: Dios, Papua New Guinea
MVS: Mucuri, Brazil
PDP: Punta Del Este, Uruguay
ATI: Artigas, Uruguay
AMD: Ahmedabad, India
PPC: Prospect Creek, AK, USA
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
...but still, every relationship ends with the words 'you always sit in front of your fscking computer'.
Don't JUST talk about yourself and your interests.
I'll assume for the sake of easy to read sentences that I'm talking to straight male nerds, but this advice applies to all genders and sexual orientations.
Ask her about herself, about her interests, about her life, about her friends.
LISTEN to what she says.
Think about what she said, and comment or ask more questions related to the topic. Go ahead and share relevent anecdotes from your own life.
I trust you can all see how interrogation -- which is NOT attractive -- is distinct from what I've just described.
Also, when you are talking about yourself, don't just talk about how great you are. Admitting nervousness or some aspect of vulnerability is very attractive, so long as it doesn't cross the line into abject insecurity or whining.
One way to open up that area of conversation is to talk about things that you hope to do, but haven't yet been able to try or complete. NOTE: If 'have sex' is on this list, don't include it in this conversation! I mean things like write a novel or travel to antarctica.
Liza
These opinions are my own. My employer is not aware of them, does not endorse them, and is not responsible for them.
The entire article reeked of the assumption that geeks are men.
At least bother to state "male geeks" if that's what you're going to talk about.
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It's true. Think about it -- Hollywood is your high school drama class, all grown up (figuratively speaking, of course).
Who wants to become famous? Kids who are obsessed with pop culture, and who watch TV, movies, and play video games all night (and sleep all day). Sound familiar?
So why is it surprising when celebrities hook up with people who are probably just like themselves?
-1 creepy - Ayanami Rei handle
+2 nerdy - Utena sig
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No, just because someone is talking about their problems doesn't mean they are looking for a solution. Every woman I've ever had a relationship who had a problem already knew how they were going to treat the solution, they just wanted to talk through the problem to get sympathy. Everytime I offer a solution when they talk about those problems, I get bad responses.
And, the women I spend my time with (particularly the one I am marrying) are not lazy or mentally underdeveloped. Typically, if a man has a lot of problems, he doesn't talk about it to anyone and just deals with the emotions involved. And typically, as the grandparent suggests, if a woman has a lot of problems, she talks about them to those close to her in order to feel better about her approach to the problem. Maturity or intelligence level have nothing to do with a woman's tendencies to follow her feelings and be sympathetic of others, be it a natural instinct or societal influence.
Besides, wouldn't the more intelligent approach be to have a fluid solution, so it can adapt to failure?
Your list of suggestions make sense, but as a self-proclaimed "geek guy" who believes he already follows most of those, I'd still have to make a few counter-points.
1. I *do* complain (or whine; your pick how you wish to label it) a lot about things I observe in the world around me. If that's too "unattractive" for a woman to deal with, so be it. But I usually point such things out to spark a conversation. I'm typically upset at something I think needs to be pointed out and addressed, rather than just swept under the rug. All too often, I think women want to avoid confrontation or discussion that might not be of the "happy, happy - joy, joy" type. You know... the types that try to end all political discussion at a table as soon as it starts, with a "can't we just talk about something ELSE?!" plea?
2. I'm not too convinced many women really want a guy that seems very "into" them at all? Practically every time I've been in a new relationship that I was really excited about (felt those "sparks" from the first time we met and all that good stuff), the thing that seemed to immediately terminate it was expressing the fact that I felt so strongly about it! My theory is, women want to feel like they're the ones who "won the guy over" themselves... They want to be the one in the "driver's seat" after the guy makes that first move and does the initial "hitting on them" and they accept. No matter how much you're falling into "like", "love" or "lust" for the woman, the only thing she wants is for you to pay attention to her on her terms, and always drop what you're doing to come over there *if you're invited*, but NOT to start doing things on your own to show how much you care. It has to be HER show, played out the way SHE wants it to play out.
3. On the "balanced life" thing, sure - everyone needs to get out in public now and then. But if you're really into computers, you can use that to your advantage rather than it working against you here. The computer is the ultimate communications tool! Get into a local IRC chat room for your city or state and organize a "get together" for the people who congregate there. Use email to invite some people out for dinner or bowling or trivia night or whatever you think they'd all enjoy. Do some searches online for recommendations of interesting things to do or see in your area. Buy a cheap hand-held GPS and get into the new hobby of GeoCaching! (www.geocaching.com)
Yesterday, while sifting through the UK version of a Cosmo, I found the most remarkable ad I think I've ever seen. It was for a soap product, I think, but the photo was that of 20 Exactly Normal Looking Women. It occured to me that I dont think I've ever actually *seen* Normal Looking Women before...
I put the ad in front of my fiance, and watched. Over about seven seconds, his face turned from daily-default expression to smelling-onions-and-old-celery. "They're all tubby" he said. I was crushed.
I was crushed because I work out three times a week, pay all the bills, get paid roughly three times as much as he does, ride a motorcycle, have fabulous hair, very often get asked out, and this all adds up to one thing.
I can't be normal. I'm not allowed. If I get to be normal, it means that I've just lost whatever it was that made me.
I listen when he's having a horrible day. I dance when there's no music for no reason. I come home and work on the house-wifey duties, and I make him laugh so hard and so often that any tone in his stomach is at least 60% to my credit. I never thought that I'd have to figure out how to be a good mate despite being pretty because now being pretty is synonymous with being ditzy.
He is an engineer, and a mechanic, and one of the most nerdy guys I've ever met. He is doting, and flattering, and patient, and as long as I continue to be nothing short of a full-blown goddess, he will continue to be wonderful.
At least pretty-boys are low maintainance. At least jocks and players they know they're worthless, it actually turned them into better people. Nerds aren't the underdogs, they're the staple, now...and they know it.
Congratulations boys, now you're the trophy.
{...reality is wrong, Dreams are for real...}
Is it the nerdliness, or just the bank account? Hot chicks hooking up with ugly rich guys is nothing new.
SEE?!!
Men Understand Women Just Fine!!!
we knew you were lying...
{...reality is wrong, Dreams are for real...}
May be women are getting nerdy too. Who knows?
Taking care of ones body is a lifestyle issue, not an appearance issue. I suspect he is looking for a woman who is compatable with his running habit, and likly to understand him, not just a hottie. I am quite sure you misunderstand the reason that he put that requirement on the list.
"I'll have a Guinness, no wait, make that a Coors Light" -Grad student I work with, who shall remain anonymous...
You mean my mom was right when she said they would like me when I was older? Damn....
In undeveloped countries, the consumer controls the market. In capitalist America, the market controls you.
...in my experience, women who do end up in a relationship with a geek will continue to date geeks, even if the first relationship ends badly.
I am a certifiable geek, of the linux variety. Most of my friends are also extremely geeky individuals, running the spectrum from gamer to comic book collector to otaku to DIY hardware junkie. One of the more interesting trends that we have noticed is that the women we end up in relationships with all ended up with something of a geek addiction, even the ones who were not at all geeky themselves. Despite being originally suspicious of our more geeky habbits, almost all of our exes moved consciously to other geeks, and several of our current girlfriends reported a similar experience in their past.
At the risk of self promotion, the parent has a point. Geeks tend to be succesful providers (almost all white collar jobs). We are inherently devoted to and trusting of those close to them. We tend to put creativity and effort into dating (take a girl "properly" stargazing, it's dark, secluded, romantic, fun, and for many girls very novel). We tend to have fairly loose expectations in regard to wardrobe, hair, makeup, etc. (being beautiful in a cocktail dress and 4-hour hair and makeup job is nice but expected, being beautiful in an oversized sweatshirt and a ratty old baseball cap is a huge ego boost). We actually are interested in and attracted to intelligence and personality (all guys have the "oh my god it has boobs!" phase, and it always passes once we actually start making female friends). And, not unimportantly, we're as a rule above average lovers (not only do most of us have a remarkably good understanding of biology and mechanics, we are creative and we tend to put her satisfaction first).
Anyway, ranting aside, it is my conclusion that the "geeks make horrible boyfriends" stigma is patently false, and that most women reach this conclusion rather quickly.
we practice a lot when we're by ourseleves.
(with apologies to Woody Allen)
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
I can finally get rid of my contact lenses and start again wearing my _heavy_ "duty" glasses. Hey, I'm at ~ -12 dioptry!!!
If you look at my comment history I sound like a complete broken record on this, but one thing that's really good at least for burning fat is to get yourself a nice healthy addiction to DDR. Start stepping to say Max 300 regularly and you'll burn quite a few calories doing so (573 precisely executed steps in a minute and a half...)
Just don't play it where many people can smell you... (ie get a good METAL pad and play in the basement or something). Then again I'm already skinny to begin with but apparently it's helped a lot for a fair few people.
For a while I dated this really really hot woman who was great in bed, and felt I was too. Tons of chemistry/attraction, kissing was amazing (wow, does that hook one in!) but conversation was pretty boring. Also, she was not a professional type of woman, which bothered me. She was more of a feeler, than a thinker. She didn't think most of the stuff I thought was funny, was funny... python, office space, simpsons, etc... Yet, she still wanted me. I made a decision to break up with her based on intellectual dissatisfaction. It was strange breaking up with a really hot woman as I always thought that as a geek, I'd be the one getting dumped by hot women...
;)
I then dated a gal I got along fantastic with for 2 years. Smart, geek-compatible, we were both professionals in a career, we made each other laugh a lot, we were both touchy-feely, she was clean and sweet and thoughtful and rather cute (but not *hot* per se), and she'd do things like take a day off work to take care of me when I got really sick once. The problem is, the sex/chemistry was just not quite there. I really tried- I had to, because I knew how well I was getting along with this woman- but in the end we both just had this flagging sexual interest in each other. The nail in the coffin was when I started an exercise program to get my ass back in sexy shape (for both of us) and she... did nothing but watch me.
I had a dry spell after that and before long I was fantasizing about Hot Chick again. Gave her a call, she was receptive, chat on the phone was hot, and in fact she's visiting tonight for 3 days or so (she's a little distance away, which is fine w/me). I expect a lot of hot, confusing sex, but the loneliness on the search for Everything Girl is just rough sometimes, and I'm not a one-night-stand type of guy, unfortunately. I expect to get tired of this gal right around the time she leaves (when I've plateaued in sexual satisfaction and the law of diminishing returns kicks in).
I am working on some other "leads" but nothing has come to fruition yet. I don't know if "importing an ex" for a few days is defensible objectively, but man, I could use a little TLC, I've had a rough few weeks and I'm fairly excited about seeing her. With the last g/f, we had to try to have sex- with this one, we have to try NOT to. It's fairly confusing, but I am still looking.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't worry, fellow nerds. not only is it possible to get the hot girl (depending on her insecurity), she actually gets boring. Be careful of getting attached to her, though
p.s. Exercise helps a LOT. Women seem to notice even after just a couple of weeks of moderate exercise.
My stance on that is that I don't want a girl to like me for something I'm not. I'm not British. I don't want someone to like me for being British, when I'm NOT BRITISH!
One of peers (can't say friend, because he's a pompous ass that abused his last girlfriend, who I AM friends with, and then dumped her for a 13 year old) told me I should wear pink hair(?!?!?), and all sorts of goth chicks would be all over me. I made the point that I've made in this post... I'm not pink hair.
If it bothers you so much, how do you feel about short chicks? Then you'll be taller than her and feel more confident.
"Avoid employing unlucky people - throw half of the pile of CVs in the bin without reading them." -- David Brent
These words are constantly repeated by many people around the world who have the experience, lived their lives and known women enough to know what makes them really happy.
:)
Some grapes are actually sour, even if they've grown way up there.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
No. Now they've got wrl... ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
This is a JOKE!
I'm still working on getting a human, but I THINK I'm making progress...
Am I the only one who is trying to get my gf to be MORE nerdy?
So far the best she's done is a pun about re-naming The 5th Element to "Boron"
I just found the box to change my sig. Um.... [timeless witticism].
Shouldn't that be MAN'S BLOG
And today, very dislexic I am, hmm...
This doesnt apply to ugly nerds.
i.e: you lot.
I have always been attracted to "Nerds" only I wouldn't call them nerds but rather "Men." Instead of letting their egos get in the way like most men they are relationship builders, motivated, generous, caring, know what they want, and appreciative, especially when they find a good women who is willing to do all of the above with them. The ones that are intelligent are easier to talk to and are open to what others think and feel. I've only dated "nerds" and find that out of all my girlfriends, I am usually the one that is most times happier and not as stressed as they are with their egotistical "boys." So if a women wants a real men, take it from me, the "nerd" is the way to go!
This is exactly right: PRETEND to have confidence. Learn how to ACT as if you were self-confident, even though you're not. Spend time with self-confident people, watch how they act, watch what they say (but don't be creepy about it). Put on an act, pretending to be self-confident, and practice on strangers you'll never see again. You can even work on this on IRC, where nobody will know that you're actually shy.
Just keep up the act, until you get good enough at it that it comes naturally, and nobody knows the difference. Don't lie about your accomplishments or whatever, just about your attitude.
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Anyone seen the E3 fraggin dolls? They have to be every /.er dream girls.
"You're saying that people are born to want a certain body shape."
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Yes, I'm saying that there are certain characteristics which we are *hardwired* to find attractive.
e.g.
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"That women are looking for providers implies their only function in life is to serve man and squat out their babies every few years. That's BS, and completely sexist."
"Serve man". I didn't say anything about serving.
You think that a male's purpose is anything other than to impregnate females? Life has no meaning, the *sole* purpose for *all* life is to have children and pass the genes on to the next generation.
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Uh, I believe the point being made was not 'to serve man', but 'to serve themselves'.
My 229 is all the Sig I need http://thegunwiki.com/
Clearly, you haven't been in Japan. :)
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That quote's not from George Washington, not precisely. It's from the Treaty of Tripoli, which was passed under John Adams, and I don't think it was credited as having been written by any one government figure of the time. That said, it was quite unanimously accepted.
More here.
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
...that's not very encouraging.
"Those who consume the bulk of goods are those who make them. We must never forget this secret of our prosperity."
Start trolling your local noncompetitive martial arts and fencing groups. Geeks like those. (Though I my jujutsu club was heavily loaded with jocks. Perhaps something with less contact.)
Not every geek looks like a geek. You notice the greasy dude in the Fett shirt and penguin hat that hasn't been washed since the Reagan administration because you think he's a geek---what else could he be? But you'd be surprised. Some of us can blend into a crowd. (Well, except for the paleness. But your star burns!)
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
And except that he hasn't got a bad-boy image, and seems a genuinely nice-guy with some actual talent ... nerd sounds like an awful stretch.
When Tiger was a freshman at Stanford, he was 6'2 140lbs, wore very thick glasses off the course (-11 nearsitedness), suffered from allergies, and (according to his college teammates) was an awful dancer. His college teammates called him "Urkel".
The Tiger Woods we see today is largely the result of Lasik surgery, strenuous weight training, and an image that is carefully controlled by IMG.
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Where's the 'ANY' key? I see Esk, Kitarl, and Pig-Up...
chl
Commenting on this part only.
Elin Nordegren, to whom Tiger Woods is married, would never have ended up with a guy like Tiger if he had not been worth $500 million+.
I disagree. Being the best golfer in the world is a huge chick magnet, whether it pays millions or not.
I guess I picked up the habit of driving a used car from my parents, who, as long as I can remember, have driven used cars that they bought outright. My car cost as much as six months of payments on a moderately priced new car, and it's given me more than a year of faithful service. I can't imagine blowing a huge amount of cash on an upgrade that amounts to basically "looks shinier". I have all the car I want or need, thank you very much.
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
Me too! - The BITCH!
"I'd like to think oysters transcend national barriers Adrian"
- we don't sleep around
Speak for yourself
I guess since we're all out juggling dates with supermodels, none of us has time for slashdot anymore.
Information doesn't want to be anthropomorphized anymore.
Get your dick OUT of the floppy drive
I have to agree with the parent post (lumpy).
Notice it's all the young and naive people who are still young and aren't thinking about the future who are concerned and so self-absorbed with sleeping with a girl that fits some pre-concieved notion of what has value and is beautiful. The fact is, if you want sex and not love then go ahead and screw all the hot girls you want but the law of diminishing returns sets in after you've experienced them, if you do anything too much you get burnt out on it, this includes sex with hot girls. The fact is such pleasure is self-created because you are getting a high from the challenge of scoring a hot chick, but in the end after it becomes easy it loses its value.
The fact is what are your goals in life is ultimately the question people should be asking themselves. If you want to be an eternal bachelor (or bachelorette) all your life, with no kids, more power to you. But I'd think anyone with any sense want's a person they are able to like and love years down the road with a family and not end up lonely in some old age home trying to remember the good times while they they are staring into eternity alone. Just remember its the people who have families that create workers that pay for things like Social security, disability, etc. To each his own.
I may just be wierd, but I think nerds make better boyfriends than non-nerds. Most can have an intelligent conversation, which is more than I can say for most of the population in the world. Most are generally nicer (I hang out with several, and I rarely need to open a door for myself.) Most tend to be individuals (there is nothing I hate more than a cookie-cutter person.) Also, most conventionally handsome guys I've met have been real assholes. They think too highly of themselves. However, I may not be an authority... I also like nerds because they enjoy the things I enjoy (RPGs, good books, computer stuff.) But am I a nerd girl? I'm not a supermodel, but I'm not greasy and fat either. On that note, I hear a lot of you here on /. describing nerds as greasy, fat, and living with their mothers... I don't think that is the norm.
Most of the nerds I know may not be conventionally handsome (with rippling muscles and fashionable hair), but they tend to be very clean at least.
Also, it seems assumed that all nerds are fat. Most of my friends aren't. Can we say 'stereotype?'
I'm a college student, and most of the nerds I know are either adults or other college students who live on their own. Several are going for engineering degrees, which means they will be able to support themselves. If they live end up living with their mothers, it is because they are taking care of her or saving money for a house.
I don't know about other girls (and I mean other girls worth getting - ones who aren't stupid sluts), but I find commen sense attractive.
Yeah, if you're such a stud, how come you can't write a sentence with even decent grammar? I'm not fat. I'm not ugly. And you know what? I know nerds ARE better lovers. And you know what? They DO have sex lives, they just don't feel the need to brag about it to their other egotistical "friends."
Tiger Woods is nerdy? Since when was a champion sportsman nerdy? Having champion sports ability and being a nerd are two mutually exclusive things...
I drink to make other people interesting!
When it comes to beautiful women being attracted to nerds, it isn't for your brain. It is for your pocket book. Bill Gates doesn't bring to the table what Brad Pitt can. Bill is fugly, lets face it. Brad is sword swing, fist smacking, lady loving super actor extreme. More over the guy gots a six pack that makes body builders cry. Bill has his little belly and his glasses.
So why oh why would a beautful woman choose super nerd over super stud? Bill brings in more money a year than Pitt can accumulate in a lifetime. Security is the active word. Security is what she is guarenteed.
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Follow Me To Certain Death
In more ways than one.
Aren't we a bit biased?
Wasn't this pointed out in "Revenge of the Nerds" like two or three decades ago?
The article isn't about how geeks make better lovers. If you read the article, it's more of an ad campaign for the new nerd TV shows.
Oh, for the days of the Riptide Detective Agency.
"Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex."
-Louis Skolnick - Revenge of the Nerds
This is the most profitable time in world history for nerds. From Bill Gates and the Google guys, down to the average nerd who is now making 110k/year programming c++, nerds and geeks are making more money than ever.
Everyone loves money. Even nerds love money. But girls really love money.
"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac"
Any sufficiently advanced libertarian utopia is indistinguishable from government.
the article is basically telling everyone what i have been promoting for years! I am a the type of girl who lives in a mini skirt, wears lots of pink, was in love with the backstreet boys in my teens and reads cosmopolitan religiously (to laugh at the suckers who date bad boys). I change my wardrobe every season and at some stage owned the Britney Spears "Baby One More Time" costume. I have dated the same nerd since first year uni and will marry him soon. I wouldnt have it any other way. My boyfriend watches SG1 and Atlantis religiously, he has a coin collection and spends the majority of his life silencing his computer. He's goofy and a bit socially inept (he emails me during the day to ask what he should say to ppl) but ever so adorable!!!!! He's cute, with fair skin (u say pastey i say fair), very thin, wears these adorable glasses and has the cutest mop of hair!!!!! In fact most of the time when we are out in public I am normally fawning over him and telling him how gorgeous he is to the point where he's like "oh dear please dont fuss"!!!!! Since going out with him I have been introduced to stargate (yes I am now a fan!), star wars. I have sat there and watched him pull apart his computer, he tells me about all the funky articles on this site and we have light saber fights (and make light saber noises)! He's interesting, always full of facts about everything and can always explain how things work. He proposed to me after 7 months of dating, bought me a huge ring with his scholarship money, will actually shop with me and generally treats me like a princess. There are girls out there like me who love nerds (or will love them if they got the chance to know one) and if you dont ask them out on a date you'll never know who you could have missed out on!!!!
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This is my sig. It's prescription, I swear. I need it for reading things... on the other side of things
Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I am not a "nerd", nor a "geek"[1]. I am a computer professional, a techie, competant and knowledgable in the technologies that the modern world depends on.
"Nerd" and "geek" were lables applied to us by the "popular" crowd, the willfully ignorant jerks[2] who think they run things these days, yet don't have the faintest clue how anything works, and so go by "gut feelings", not based on any real knowledge.
And you wonder why the world's in the wretched shape it's in?[3]
mark
1. "Geek" comes from the old carnival slang, and referred to the (usually) mentally retarded guy who made his living in the freak show as "the wild man of Borneo", or some such, and bit the heads off live chickens. As such, Newt Gingrich would qualify.... (He served divorce papers on his wife, while she was in the hospital for cancer.)
2. A friend of mine, who teaches in colleges when he's not being an astronomer, describes the food chain when he teaches "science for non-science majors". The next to the bottom are the business majors, who "don't get it, but don't let that worry them". The bottom are communications majors (you know, the folks who go into journalism and advertising), who "not only don't get it, but don't know that they don't get it".
3. This is *not* the Real Twentyfirst Century. I want the *real* one back, NOW, thankyouveddymuch.
She told you to move it so she can put in some junky Pier 1 crap she saw on Trading Spaces? LoL
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
I'm doing this in the interest of saving time.
The way I speak to total strangers on an online forum is completely different from the way I conduct myself with people in person. Manners aren't my problem. My problem is the fact that I cannot speak to strangers without either some sort of business reason (for instance, if I was buying something from a sales clerk), or through a very strong mental effort. Especially attractive women. It's incredibly difficult.
My second problem, is that there is no place that I have yet found that I enjoy going where I can meet people. As such, I will not enjoy myself, and I will very seldom go out to the same place twice because it's simply a chore.
These are my problems. If you have concrete advice for overcoming them I haven't heard a dozen times before, I'm all ears.
I wouldn't expect to buy a new (well, new to me) car every year either; that's ridiculous. I do assure you that there's a middle ground between paying a third of the sticker price for that "new car smell" (given that the car loses a third of its value once driven off the dealer's lot) and having to get out and push half the time.
I suppose I just can't justify the up-front expense of getting a new (or newer) car. My history of car trouble in the seventy thousand miles or so I've owned a car has been (a) one of my tires blew out on the highway, (b) my fuel pump fell into the gas tank, requiring a trip to the mechanic, and... that's actually it. I routinely took 600 mile road trips in it, and I'd still be driving the first car if I hadn't gotten into an accident and had it crushed into a small metal cube.
How many tows or breakdowns have you had in your last seventy thousand miles?
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
I have to say that I disagree with the whole premise of the original Times article...it seems to be suggesting that non-geek-girls should hook up with geeky guys.
"The caveat to mating with a geek, as some dating experts see it, is coming to terms with his less-than-studly looks and less-than-suave demeanor. All thoughts of embarrassment have to go out the window."
If you're a true geek, you wouldn't feel embarrassed by your mate's geekiness - you'd revel in it. And why would any savvy geek accept anything less than someone who "gets" them? If someone is "embarrassed" by your geekiness, then it's a sure sign that you should be suspicious of their motives and ask them sweetly to enjoy a long book of Vogon poetry.
I'd say that geeks belong with geeks. We understand each other and there's no need to pretend or put up with anything and we all can go see all the old Star Trek movies together - and enjoy it!
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