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Longhorn's Offical Name is Windows Vista
UnkleAsdf writes "The folks at Redmond have long pointed to the user interface of the next generation Windows release as one of its major selling points. Now, it appears Microsoft has chosen an official name for Longhorn with just that in mind. Enter: Windows Vista. Microsoft is expected to make an official announcement early Friday morning." From the article: "Microsoft has also registered domains to go along with the newly christened Windows, including windowsvista.com. The domains were registered in late March, indicating the company made the decision even before WinHEC gave developers their first taste of Longhorn in over a year."
Asta lavista, Alta Vista. You have fewer lawyers.
then the view thus far is crappy.
Does it run linux?
Windows Vista, that doesn't sound quite right. I think they're running out of names.
Windows Vista in latvian would be Windows Chicken, now that is very lucky for us latvians.. "I hate chicken!"
Okay, fine, so they picked marketing name. Now what version is it really? Eg W2K was 5.0 and XP was 5.1. So is this 5.2, or 6.0, or what?
Which only makes sense, because I'm sure it'll be delayed...ooooh...me thinky long time.
StupidChildren...the reason jesus is crying
"The folks at Redmond have long pointed to the user interface of the next generation Windows release as one of its major selling points."
There seem to be a few surplus characters in that sentence. The words "one of" and that final "s" seem to have been typed by accident.
My other processor is big-endian.
Instead of all this R&D why don't they release a bew theme for XP. Save a lot of messing around.
Could have new widgets that ate memory, CPU, disk space and to phone home.
Cheaper and faster than how they're doing it now.
Perfect.
it's a blue bright blue Saturday hey hey
Despite all the disspointing announcements lately about features being dropped from Longhorn, at least it still had a cool name. Now that's gone too.
I don't like that name. I think Longhorn is far better.
How abbreviation of Windows Vista will look like?
WV, V, MSWV?
..they dared not name it after a year. That would have been like 3drealms naming Duke Nukem 1998 instead of Duke Nukem forever.
The domains were registered in late March, indicating the company made the decision even before WinHEC gave developers their first taste of Longhorn in over a year.
And why is that, exactly? Couldn't it be that they made up many names, selected, say, 10, and registered the domain names to prevent leaking of the name and it being registered by someone else ?
Sounds like a very small price for such a big risk, so I don't see any reason why registration in March should indicate that they actually decided to go with that name at that date...
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The view you see outside your office window while your computer switches from Blue Screen of Death to Red Screen of Death, reboots, crashes, pours water on itself, ignites and then explodes.
Oh, and then customer service asks if you have plugged in your computer.
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{Commercial starts}IT group all a scramble, looks like a technical World War 3, motorcycle boots stomp into the frame, pan up to Arnie's mug...." Windows Vista, Baby!" holding CD at arms length. Looks of salvation on the faces of IT techs.
LOL what am I saying?
Sehr geehrter Toilettenbenutzer!
With a name like Longhorn, they were kind of asking to be re-"branded"
Pardon my ignorance, but could someone tell me what Vista means and how Microsoft relates it to their new OS? NT was New Technology I believe, and that was fitting (well, when it was released anyway) and XP stood for experience (yea, it's some experience alright...) so what's the correlation this time?
According to the article, 'The word 'vista' defined means "pleasing view."'. That is not correct. Vista simply means "view" or "sight" and could apply to good or bad, pleasing or displeasing. It remains to be seen which it turns out to be...
This will be great for Apple's marketing division. In the new "switch" commercials, they could get Schwartzeneggar to say "Hasta la Vista, Windows!"
I quote others only in order the better to express myself. -- Michel de Montaigne
Will this be their *cough* registration site?
http://www.vistawindows.com.au/
Just a thought.. vista is close to visa... couldnt visa sue MS for a name so close to its own..
I was worried they were going to pull one-upsmanship on Apple and name it Windows "Liger", (which is bred for its skills in magic).
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
... WinHEC gave developers their first taste of Longhorn in over a year.
The rest of us have been getting a 'taste' of Microsofts 'Longhorn' for years now.... crappy sw, high prices, poor security, forced upgrades, etc.
It's funny, laugh. I haven't had my coffee yet today.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
The view will be great from a spyware standpoint.
'Volunteers in Service to America' - As you volunteer away your freedom.
You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.
Actually, Microsoft has registered windowsvista.us, not windowsvista.com. The WindowsVista.com registrant is:
Register.com
Domain Registrar
62 Rcom Drive
Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B1
CA
Email: admin@internationaladmin.com
It seems odd that Microsoft are sticking to their decision to abandon year references in their product names (well, excluding the miserable sales-pitch that was Windows 2003). I think they'll lose upgrades over this--not everyone knows that Windows Vista is better than XP (Vista implies a hands-off approach, XP implies that you're part of an experience), but everyone knows that Windows 98 is better than 95, simply because of mandatory obsolescence enforced by the naming scheme.
In portuguese vista means view, so we have "vista da janela" or "windows view". Funny indeed.
So that's what Microsoft did with the 5.8 B$ research budget - looking for new Windows release name :-)
You mean XP = experimental :D
That is how you explain all the damn blue screens!
"If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate." -Zapp Brannigan
Vista Windows. Who will win in court?
Yeah I know, clutching at straws. Was worth a shot though. ;-)
She's built like a steak house, but she handles like a bistro....
After dumpster diving outside Redmond, I managed to come up with this list of alternate names compiled by Microsoft's marketing team:
For the launch of Windows 95, Microsoft used The Rolling Stones, for Windows XP it was Jay Leno. For the launch of Windows Vista, Microsoft will use a celebrity guest that represents the future of the product: Microsoft is considering David Caruso, Shelley Long, John Travolta, or Kevin Costner...
Will the beautiful landscape renderer Vista Pro be sued to change their name?
They were first, but are not big...
Vista Cruiser!
More
one of the things they're waiting for...is a platform. AMD is solid and at 64 bit, but Intel is MS's ol' buddy. Longhorn was already supposed to be out by now, but...Intel doesn't have a good enough 64bit platform to offer it. That's the wait.
Probably 'Nova'.
WebCT has a widely used CMS for on-line courses named Vista http://webct.com/software/viewpage?name=software_v ista
which has been out for at least a few years. WebCT is used heavily in Higher Education for on-line course delivery.
I heard that they're also planning on relaunching their Passport service as Windows Visa.
I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
Asta la Vista baby!
And it crashed.
That's a different sector, and I think that means it's ok to use the same name there.
But there are a lot of software packages called 'Vista' out there. I wonder how trademark registration resolves all that.
None of the packages are an OS?
So the future Windows will be called Vista. But where is the news that really matters?
I want to know what happened to WinFS, Avalon, Indigo and all the other revolutionary tech that Long... Vista supposedly would offer. How much has been cut and how much does Vista really differ from XP? How much will Vista cost?
Somehow, Vista doesn't seem to be, as Bill Gates once said, the the most important release since Windows 95. Let's hope Vista is more than a new color scheme and fancy GUI components.
Oh I think they will make a deal with Microsoft. If they agree to change their name, they'll probably even get a free X-Box, and maybe a couple of games.
I'll probably be modded down for this...
NT = Neanderthan technology :D
All these posts, and no-one has said anything about the word "Offical" yet?
OK, I'll take a stab then:
- I think the "ic" was put in by accident.
OR
- from Bill Gates' point of view, there can be only one "I" in the OS world.
That's the best I've got I'm afraid - my caffeine levels are definitely too low...
Daar is nie 'n lepel nie
It sounds like a cheap resort hotel. I guess Longhorn is targetting the home user; it's hardly a corporate friendly name.
"Welcome to Windows Vista. Here are your complementary towels and fly swatter. You're in room 205. It has a nice balcony view of the interstate. Checkout's at 5am. Enjoy your stay."
codename - MPAA's Bitch
It just sounds clunky and trite to me. How many times has the word vista been used in marketing already? I think even xp2 would have been a better name. Oh well, maybe with enough exposure and marketing, Vista will start sounding better to me:)
Nuts. Somebody has already registered windowsvistasucks.com. Registered three days ago, even!
I guess Windows 2012 just doesn't have that "ring" to it.
Windows 64.
After all, this new version of Windows is likely going to be designed mostly to support the x86-64 CPU instruction set that AMD pioneered and Intel has begun to use, so this sets a break with the 32-bit past of previous Windows versions.
Well, shit, XP was more stable than "Windows Me".
I've upped my standards, so up yours.
I love that name.
When I think Vista I think of a great open landscape, pretty but devoid of anything substantial.
Curiously, Merriam-Webster defines vista as "a distant view through or along an avenue or opening," which isn't really that much better.
And in related news, Microsoft announced it was suing the following cites/towns/counties for trademark infringement:
Vista, CA
Vista, MO
Vista, FL
Vista, IA
Vista, MN
Vista, MT
Vista, NM
Vista, NV
Vista, NY
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windows hahahaha, vista hahahahaha. *wipes off tears of laughter*
Rock is Dead! Long live Paper and Scissors!!
They have chosen a name and I still don't care.
Me and my AMD64 will keep running a Linux distro since it works very well.
How about we hold the press releases I mean articles until Microsoft open sources [even if not GPL'ed] their kernel and other core OS components?
Tom
Someday, I'll have a real sig.
Has anyone else realised that 'Vista' may not be as dumb as it initially sounds?
Windows Vista will likely be shortened to:
Windows VI
'VI' in Roman Numerals is six.
Guess what version Windows Vista will be? 6.0...
Either this is a smart marketing name, or I'm slightly paranoid...
it's Windows 1.0.
Who's your user, program?
..is naturally: Hasta la Vista, Linux!
This OS will will grab Linux by the balls with its iron fist and crunch it! Yeah, baby!
Hasta la Vista, Windows!
So does this mean that if you want to mod windows, you need to battle for domain names with alta vista? Arf!
Remove a few more features you had announced and it will be more like 5.2.0.1-rc1
Anagram("United States of America") == "Dine out, taste a Mac, fries"
Windows Freedom, oh the irony.
Things work quite well. All the apps work, I can develop with Eclipse, JBoss, and MySQL.
User switching is nice, so my wife can have her own email/office environment.
I rarely have to reboot the machine due to problems.
I don't see the value proposition in upgrading to Windows Vista? What is it supposed to give me?
Sam
I heard they were going to name it "Linix Professional Edition".
I think MacOS X will prove to be twice better than Windows V.
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[Gates' lackeys trash the room.]
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The new name for Windows Longtime
Don't put off until tomorrow what you can leave until the day after.
then the view thus far is crappy.
1) Longhorn has been changed to Vista.
2) Vista means 'view'.
3) It's still a long way off - and it was called Longhorn, so we wouldn't be out of line calling it 'Long View'.
4) 'Long View' is a song by the band Green Day.
5) Green Day released an album called 'Dookie'.
6) Dookie is a slang term for feces (i.e. crap).
Hey, you're right!
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
Vista. The view from the basement.
Who can come up with the best description, pretending Vista was an acronym?
Heres my lame entry to get things started:
Very
Intrusive
Software,
Tainting
All.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, The hands acqui
Instead of "home" and "pro" versions, are they planning an Alta Vista and a Baja Vista?
Now that they have dropped most of the features for Longhorn, it is only appropriate they drop the name too.
One ring to bind them - should probably have more fiber and less rings in their diet.
Here's a name they should have looked into- Windows XXP Extra Experience
No, no, no Ford was from Betelgeuse not Vega...
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
and put up some anti-ms-vista propaganda!
Meh.
Who was also thinking about VISA?
;-)
As in
- keep paying
- what you need to enter our beautiful OS
- what you'll have to endlessly renew
Who cares about the view if you're not allowed to wander freely?
I think, therefore I am...I think.
on windowsvistasucks.com
I think you're thinking of the Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser.
Windows Vista will likely be shortened to:
..but besides that, everyone knows that the REAL power is in Windows EMACS; heck, it's so bloated, it's almost a full operating system!
Windows VI
Why...on earth would anyone shorten Windows Vista to Windows VI? Your logic is blowing my mind.
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Why not just name it Windows 6? It's version 6.0, it doesn't have a year, it's not some stupid cutesey name like "Vista"... minimalism is cool. Of course, Fark's Photoshop cult would have a field day with that. I can see it now... "Windows 666". With a picture of Admiral Ackbar saying, "It's a trap!"
After reading this I got up from my desk and walked into the IT office, looked at them and said, "Windows VISTA!!" with a decidely bad spanish accent. After hearing myself say it, I half expected an army of señoritas to bust through the door. Wierd...
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Vista (Vish-ttaa) means faeces. I know, other people have made the same deductions here. -Clueless
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No, no, no. That names aren't gay. They are lesbian.
Anagram("United States of America") == "Dine out, taste a Mac, fries"
... a movie tie-in for V For Vendetta? Seems appropriate. :P
I liked it better when it was called Tiger ... oh wait .....
They really missed the boat. Windows Nova was the obvious choice!
http://www.geocities.com/jonmason1977/gates900.jpg
...why big companies keep selling things with italian/spanish names, pulling them out randomly from a dictionary? Apart from calling an OS "view" (gee... "pussycat" wuold have been better), I can remember the Kia Sorento. Great idea. I really think that everybody in Sorrento (which is written with TWO Rs) wants a SUV. Sure.
C'mon. We have the choice of *Windows Vista* or *Mac OS X TIGER*. C'mon, I know what I'd choose.
Now all they need is to codename a release "beetle" and spread the WV-VW confusion.
Anagram("United States of America") == "Dine out, taste a Mac, fries"
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jul0 5/07-22LHMA.mspx
I think Windows Virgin is a better name. We've already seen Windows XP.. aka Experienced.. this one has a new "kernel" and eye candy.. its a virgin to hack for the very first time!
MidnightBSD: The BSD for Everyone
Does it really matter what moronic name it has? Thinking back the "commoon" name has always been just Windows among the masses. People that want to seem competent will append numbers (95, 98, 2000) or say Win XP but few others care.
Of course everyone knew that ME really stood for "Monkey Excrement".
I still say that with the deletion of features originaly planed, they are just charging you for SP3.
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Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
vv v <- One tooth missing
is it just me, or does anyone else think that Longhorn, while an odd name, was a much more interesting / enticing one. Maybe go more the mac os naming route, something like Win6.0 Longhorn.. granted they have a pension for keeping their name in the main title but Windows Vista just sounds like some crappy tourist attraction at some place I didn't wanna go to in the first place
"Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" ~Frank Zappa
EdelFactor
They were going to go with "Windows AYBABTU" but nobody could figure out how to pronounce it.
www.eFax.com are spammers
My window doesn't have a "view".. heck I don't even have a window!
And XP == eXtortion Plan...
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
That Microsoft should stop calling their OS "Windows".
It's a tired name, now synonymous with spyware, virii, headaches, problems, lack of security and worse. If nothing else, they can market it a lot more easily...
"Tired of the same spyware? Scared of losing your identity to some scammer online??! Microsoft now introduces "Longhorn", a revolutionary new operating system that will put an end to all your old concerns."
Granted... there will just be new concerns, but that's not what marketing is about, is it?
The price is always right if someone else is paying.
Let's See, Windows open to Vistas, and Vista's are pretty.
I suppose Dungheap, or NeedLessStuff Didn't have the same ring.
I remember when LongHorn went into a major beta and the illegal versions went around my college campus, this was over 2 years ago, and then the first leaks happened 4 years ago. At least I hope that means that beta testing is taking a good amount of time. But if some reports are right, (And there's no reason to doubt them) they are also adding more needless features or extra security to deprive us of digital freedom.
Of course let's all take a moment to remember Windows ME, the last time Microsoft tried to force a specific feature on us. I know personally I'm not upgrade, and likely most offices won't as XP is working fine... for now.
Way to go, MS. The US gov't owns a bit of medical software (DMR) called Vista (developed in open source for those playing at home) which they are distributing to all medical practices for FREE starting in August. Let the chaos begin...
To err is human... to really foul things up requires a computer.
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Windows Vista is apparently not trademarked yet according to the USPTO website. There was a little discussion of this on Linux Medical News http://www.linuxmednews.com/1122038173 about a possible trademark conflict with VistA the Veterans Administration healthcare software: '...Probably not. VistA is currently trademarked by a modem company, OpenVistA is trademarked by Medsphere, VistA by itself as healthcare software is up for grabs, as is VistAOffice. Interesting,a search on the USPTO website shows Windows Vista is NOT trademarked currently, but Vista Windows IS by a drapery company. Let the games begin!'
-- IV
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I keep seeing features pushed back from Longhorn, pardon me, Vista. No WinFS or Monad; Avalon, Indigo and IE7 are all going to be backported to WinXP. What, precisely, is Vista going to include?
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
According to this article , it is WindowsVista, not Windows Vista. I'm sure this is for copyright reasons.
You have to know that it's only a matter of time before some yahoo creates a patch which will replace every mention of "Vista" with "Del Boca Vista" now!
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--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
Albeit it has been noted that "vista" has a meaning as an English word (my choice is Volunteers In Service To America) it actually means a lot of things in Spanish and has a very strong Spanish feeling in it.
I've been intrigued for a while for the increasing use of Spanish words in every day speek. Is MS name choice a deliberate attempt to make windows cooler? (well, obviously that is what all the branding thing is about but I meant asking, is there a coolness factor associated with Spanish or Latino things?). Are they trying to be sexier for Spanish speakers? Or is just because how it sounds?
mod me up scottie!
Fitting name for the most pirated OS...
astalavista.box.sk baby!
TFA says Windows Vista will be upon us in 2006 according to MS. Now we all know how MS handles deadlines that are upon them - they ship the code and let the public QA it.
/.ers not to be publicly critical of ever slipping Longhorn/Vista deadlines. Just let MS take their time and get it right/better/as good as they can.
PLEASE DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN.
I am calling on all
IT departments around the world can't take another round of vulerabilities due to poor QA by the world's largest software company.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
Windows Vista is named after the Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser (http://images.google.com/images?q=vista%20cruiser ). A serverely heavy and bloated but yet unsurprisingly ugly piece of American History.
When modding "Informative", please make sure it both has a source and IS actually informative.
The domains were registered in late March, indicating the company made the decision even before WinHEC gave developers their first taste of Longhorn in over a year.
No such deduction can be made. It is possible (and probable) that many domains were registered before any decisions were made.
Raisinettes are my raison d'etre
I switched to Linux on my desktop back in 2000 and don't really care for their new products, no matter how good they are supposed to be. I've not missed them at all over the years and frankly I'm amazed they are still in business.
Meh.
soo....let's see
in the good old days things are simply 95, 98, 2000
now we end up with Millenium Edition, Xtra Pathetic, and then....Vista?
jeeez, what happened to Good Marketing (TM) ?
This would be confusing because people would inevitably shorten it to "Windows Free". Then when all of us who use Mac OS X, or Linux, or *BSD, or anything else say that we are running windows free, people will think that we've upgraded to the latest version of MS Windows.
hmmm, maybe it's a fiendishly clever plot...
un-ALTERED reproduction and dissimination of this IMPORTANT information is ENCOURAGED
Where does he connect to that?!?
Why would Microsoft want to name their OS after France?
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Alright! I know I'm in there! If I don't come out, I'll have to come in after me!
Buick wanted to name a car LaCrosse. It's a sport, I know, but in Quebec, "crosse" is slang for masturbation (je me suis crossé) and for a fraud (I sold him that 5$ item for 25$, je l'ai crossé). They finalled renamed it I think...
Like all things Longhorn, this too shall change
I didn't know Bill was that big a fan of That 70's Show.
Vuja De: That sinking feeling that this is going to happen again. Often occurs in meetings with Product Managers.
Marketing is involved we now have new microsoft software...
The domains were registered in late March, indicating the company made the decision even before WinHEC gave developers their first taste of Longhorn in over a year.
All that registering the domain in late March tells you is that the name was considered a possibility at that time, not that a final decision had been made to use it. I wouldn't be surprised if they tossed around several names and registered all of them as soon as they thought of them.
Sometimes the logic here is astounding.
What?
But what does the Visible & Infrared Survey Telescope for Astronomy have to do with Microsoft?
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so on the Windows Vista page there is this image of two people looking out over a foggy canyon and the heading reads "Bringing clarity to your world".
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
"AlterVista.com"
(and point it to linuxdevices.com, of course... tee hee!)
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
Hasta la Vista, Windows
(yesyesyes I'm a cornball...)
How about Windows Pacer, Windows Pinto or best of all, Windows Edsel Edition???
Personally I think they should call it Horizon, although you can see it, you never seem to get any closer to it
... Windows Vista ... his name is Windows Vista.
You see, in death operating systems do have a name - even the ones that cause mayhem.
sig? Oh, that sig...
their lawyers talked them out of "Minna Daisuki Windows!". See, in the new UI, you control this little man...
you can have my violent video games when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.
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I think they should have named it Windows Blinds instead, or how about Windows Panoramic View?
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
And IBM's school offering in North America is called 'SchoolVista' (Novell) or the newer 'StudeNTVista' (NT based). So what? Vista is a common word.
1 : a distant view through or along an avenue or opening : PROSPECT
2 : an extensive mental view (as over a stretch of time or a series of events)
-M
when you see the word 'Linux', drink!
Yesterday there was an article on cnet on a medical records system called Vista that was created for the VA hospital system. It may be supported by Medicare for free distribution to small practices. Whether Microsoft itended or not, there will probably be a linkage between their OS and this medical software. http://news.com.com/U.S.+to+offer+doctors+free+ele ctronic+records+system/2100-1022_3-5797866.html
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One more thing...how freaking brilliant was it to save the cat that starts with 'L' for now? You know that journalists and editors can't resist using alliteration in their headlines, and Apple has handed them the image of a Leopard versus a Longhorn on a platter. I bet MS will be scrambling to come up with a new name.
I think it's safe to say that I called that one.
The "cue the foo posts in 3, 2, 1..." posts will commence with no subsequent foo posts in 3, 2, 1...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.mspx
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There was an article posted yesterday on cnet on a medical records system for the Veterans Affairs (VA) hospital system called Vista. It is free for distribution and installation may be payed for by Medicare to help small practices start up. Whether Microsoft intended or not, there will probably be a linkage between their OS and this software.
e ctronic+records+system/2100-1022_3-5797866.html
http://news.com.com/U.S.+to+offer+doctors+free+el
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We got a whole continent full of 'em!
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
The Chevrolet Nova sold very well in South America. Consider that an equivalent situation in English would be a dining room set called "The Notable" not getting any sales because people think it contains no tables. http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp for further details.
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Why bother renaming it at all? We've all been calling it Longhorn for years now... it's not like Chicago, where that was an internal name that wasn't often used outside of Redmond. Longhorn this and Longhorn that have been the standard phrases for years in every trade rag... and they're throwing it all away to call it "Vista"... eeeyyyuuuuchhh...
The only possible reason I can think of for it is that they think Longhorn is associated with too much bad publicity, and they want a fresh start. Except, I haven't seen that much "bad" said about Longhorn... so, I guess Bill was bored recently, and decided to let his youngest name the new OS.
At least it's not Windows: Snoopy
Although maybe if it was, we could see the Red Baron straffing Clippy...
If I knew the wedgies I gave you back in 6th grade would have resulted in this . . . I might have taken a moments pause.
So the concept here is you are a end user on the vista of a cliff face before being pushed off by Gates and hurled to your death onto a herd of longhorn cattle correct? And the Tigers, Panthers, and other large cats feast on your carcass right?
Some vista's just aren't that pretty.
Meh.
like the OS itself and anything mircosoft puts out. a whole new name for xp sp3... this just sucks and microsoft should be so ashamed.
"...our stuff is better. we have better stuff," steve jobs said.
"don't you see steve? THAT DOESN'T MATTER!!" replied bill gates.
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There ain't no Vista and there ain't no View...
100% Insightful
How long until some obscure software project named Vista comes out of the woodwork to sue Microsoft, eventually to settle for approx. $1M plus publicity?
This brings to mind a whole slew of new names for their other products:
1) Corner Office (Office with a view)
2) Picture Window (Paint for Vista)
3) Telescope (Web browser with blinders - just like the old IE!)
4) ComMode (Outlook Express - Com and Mode together! Or did you think I meant...)
5) BugZapper (One of those blue-light things out on the back porch - MS Anti-Spy)
Ok, I'm obviously dragging this morning...not enough coffee.
Don't use the Troll mod just because you disagree with me.
Which is probably more appropriate since you will have to check with a controlling interest every time you want to do run/play something...
Oops, forgot to prove what I said. I've been watching too much FOX News!
"OS X is the most advanced operating system on the planet and it has set Apple up for the next 20 years." - Steve Jobs, WWDC 2005
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-- So is this going to be both the Workstation and the Server product name?
-- Have they improved it yet so it needs something less than 480 MB just to load the OS?
-- AND AGAIN WHY do I need this for my BUSINESS users? WHY? Windows 98 and 2000 STILL WORK JUST FINE!!
(Oh, I forgot, we haven't paid Microsoft lately...)
Windows Vista website
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/37/bbwindowsvis ta1mq.jpg
A slashdotting - you get the stick first and then the carrot !
Am I the only person who found it both funny and sick at the same time that their video is hosted at microsoft.com/winme? Apparently that URL has been repurposed for media releases, but it kind of caught me surprise.
e _MBR.asx
Full URL:
http://www.microsoft.com/winme/0507/25234/Win_Nam
XP = 5.1
Server 2003 = 5.2
I haven't seen a longhorn beta but I'm sure there's a version number in there somewhere. Version numbers aren't friendly to end lusers....remember that since 2000 the industry has been in a steady decline due to the necessary fluffing (for lack of a better term) of end lusers.
"Introducing....the ALL NEW and IMPROVED...Windows XP."
versus
"Introducing...the ALL NEW and IMPROVED...Windows five point one point twenty six hundred!"
Apple did it too...System 11 sounds nerdy. TIGER sounds fierce, competitive and on the bleeding edge of technology.
Expect the names to get more nonsensical as time goes on.
It has a link to a shock site.
Oh, wait...
How about "Microsoft Windows 2000 Something"?
Windows VI? Ha! Windows eMX is better!
Bert
First thing I did on reading this article was try to register www.vistasucks.com Unfortunately someone has already pre-empted Microsoft's future userbase.
Argh.
From the focus group comments file:
"There 'aint no Vista, and there 'aint no View and there certainly 'aint no Vista of no View."
(turn your head sideways...)
"Not an actor, but he plays one on TV."
Reminds me of a nice condo community in Florida . . .
There's a story this morning about how today in Atlanta there's an event called "MGB 2005" with the tagline "Going Beyond," that features several major tracks being presented to Microsoft managers and partners from throughout the world. But apparently the name "Microsoft" is not in evidence on any of the event's signage or collateral relating to the meeting. Anyone know what the exact scoop is on that? Is this where the "Vista" name was cooked up?
Now we need to go and change all the jokes saying will it run Longhorn to will it run Vista.
The real name will be Windows 2005 FogHorn.
I used to have a better sig than this, but I got tired of it
But, I wanted socialized health insurance!
I thought for sure they were going with Windows ME2!
A few years ago, "Vista" was actually one of the proposed new titles for a corporate intranet site I was working on. It came from a committee of middle managers. We shot it down because it didn't mean much, didn't communicate anything about the site it would've been attached to, and wasn't easily "branded" into variations on the theme. (Tiny symbols to remind people of the "vista" didn't come to mind for the end of articles, for one example. No space-efficient "Vista" logo elements.) The idea of providing a way to see the overall "landscape" of the company was the idea, but that struck us as so generic to Web sites generally that we thought it wasn't useful.
(But then, really, "Panther" and "Tiger" are just cool names according to Steve J's 12-year-old self... Easier to brand, with fur coat patterns and so on, but no more meaningful.)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other word would smell as sweet... except if you called it stenchblossom.
Somehow that simpsons line seems oddly appropriate right now. A vista is also a good place to commit suicide from.
Oh, a lesson in history from Mr. I'm my own grandpa.
Won't Windows Vista be the 5th version of Windows O/S?
-- ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space!
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I can't even play the video on my Mac!
-- Cheers!
It looks like from that tagline (revealed here: http://news.com.com/Longhorns+new+name+Windows+Vis ta/2100-1016_3-5799734.html?tag=nefd.lede)
and of course the name "vista" they are really going to promote the translucent features and the eyecandy.
"Microsoft has also registered domains to go along with the newly christened Windows, including windowsvista.com. The domains were registered in late March, indicating the company made the decision even before WinHEC gave developers their first taste of Longhorn in over a year."
D ong.com
I wish I had thought of "vista". I registered the following guesses in the hopes that MS would pay me off to get the right one:
www.windowsCrap.com
www.windowsBigFloppyDonkey
www.windowsDerekSmart.com
Veterans Health Information System and Technology Architecture
This is why Open Source is Evil, right?
I tried compiling, but it doesn't work... quick it is crashing...
Check this out... I'll bet 2,000 as a final bidding price...
m =5791636565
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ite
Religion and politics, without the flame. godgab.org
Now they can rename IE 7 to the Vista Crusier!
Any flashbacks yet?
"Attention all planets in the Solar Federation."
"We have assumed control"
"We have assumed control"
"We have assumed control"
"Seven Deadly Sins? I thought it was a to-do list!"
Most of the comments seems to be humorous jabs at what Vista means in other languages. I don't see what's so incredibly funny about what Vista means in sanskrit or whatever. Ah well. In Norwegian, a "dott", which is pronounced like dot in english, means an imbecile. ;)
Most Windows have had 2 numerals following it (XP, ME). This will be better known as Windows VI. VI being the first two letters of Vista and in Roman numerals, 6 because this is Windows NT 6.0.
Back in my day, we watched T.V. by candlelight.
"Don't open the registry...!"
[fx: horrendous clatter of falling objects]
Seems to me that all this thing has to offer is cute skins (that you can get anywhere for free now) and less control of your own hardware (see http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/15/155 216&tid=109&tid=172&tid=158&tid=155
). I'm not sold on it.
nm
Longhorn/Vista will be a dream for hollywood studios wanting to lock you down so much for selling points.
VLC FOR MAC IS DYING! IF YOU DEVELOP, PLEASE SAVE IT!!
I'm from Greece and we have the word "svista" which means "erase them"! That's the best use of Windows sVISTA!
Hasta la Vista, Billy!
Vista will be the version 6.0 (XP is 5.1). It doesn't work with V, but VI means 6...
Wonder what the WebCT folks think about Microsoft staling their product name?
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Dictionary definition of "vista": "n. A distant view or prospect, especially one seen through an opening, as between rows of buildings or trees."
Virtual PC even used to run natively under OS/2, for gosh sakes. :-)
http://bityard.com/article.php?sid=100#Adds
Mainframe/UNIX Bit Twiddler and long time Windows/Linux Hobbyist.
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.
Now I won't be hungry everytime I boot into the OS! =/ Well, I doubt I'll be installing it anyway. Slackware 10 > Windows Vista =)
"Instant gratification takes too long." - Carrie Fisher
Is it me or is someone merely cutting and pasting all the marketing hype from every other version of Windows, rearranging the words, and putting them in each PR campaign?
"It seamlessly connects you to information, people, and devices that help you get the most out of life."
Yeah, my dreams are all going to come true! I tell ya, marketing reps...they need to die!
Does this mean that groups like Vista Windows, AltaVista, WorldVista, Vista, and Friends of Vista are all going to sue Microsoft on the same grounds that Microsoft sued Lindows a while back?
What's that view the cute couple is looking at?
It's Operation Pengu-in Pengu-out, of course! Windows Vista: "The water runs red in 2006!"
MS does not endorse killing entire colonies of penguins with depth charges. However, it simply doesn't think they should be allowed to breed for free and in the open for all to see (think of the children!), and is humanely protecting other marine life from the terrorist penguins... by blowing them up.
I8-D
(Don't tell me nobody has thought of that yet)
Vista : A distant view or prospect,.....
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vista
Obviously its a long way off then; not that i really care anyhow as i havent used windows for many years.
Electronic Music Made Using Linux http://soundcloud.com/polyp
Dude, your missing the point. You tack 64 on the end of all the apps, then prefix it with 'super'
Super Notepad 64
Super Solitare 64
Super NortonAntiVirus 64
It sells itself! Just think, the Nintendo64 wasn't really 64bit, so it doesn't matter if it gets a 32bit version, people believe anything!
It's here....
Microsoft Windows V.I.S.T.A
Very
Insecure
Software
Technology
Asset
Vista - viewing the world as never before...
Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away. - Elvis Presley (source: imdb.com)
Well, there is/was the Mitsubishi Pajero. "Pajero" (in Spanish - at leat in Spain) is someone who masturbates a lot. There, and in other countries, it is now called Mitsubishi Montero.
I'm sure it did. Unfortunately that's not why this subject keeps popping up.
"Nova" is not a common spanish word. You probably thought of "nueva". In spanish "nova" is an astronomical word meaning an exploding star (as in English). "No va", on the other hand means "doesn't move" to any spanish speaker. Also, native spanish speakers leave precious little space between words.
Actually, the equivalent situation is more like a car named a "nogo", where (I made the following up) a nogo is a English word of Hebrew origins describing a small lump of hardened flesh occuring in your left deltoid.
I choose to remain celibate, like my father and his father before him.
So, can a company like MSFT basically name their products whatever they like without fear of copyright just becase they have the $$$ and lawyers to kick anyone else down? I'm sure there are plenty of companies or products with close ties to 'vista' and software. http://vistasoftware.com/ is just the first one that Google turned up for me.
Thats not a bug, its intentional. You actually thought that windows compiles?
Aren't the best vistas usually found near the edge of a cliff?
Vista- a location that affords a panoramic overview of all the neat things you can't actually reach.
Couldn't help myself. ("snort" :-)
MSBPodcast.com The opinions expressed here are my own. If you don't like 'em... Think up your own stuff.
Actually, you can call a turd what you want. The fact remeains that is still a turd.
What want to know is when are we going to get the definitive version of Windows?
When they have competition that requires them to do so.
Microsoft's only possible approach is to make Windows Vista good enough that people feel they want to upgrade and no better. How do they justify to their shareholders that they spent X million dollars on this feature and they didn't really need to and that they'll need to spend Y million more on a new feature they haven't thought of for the next release. That's risky and expensive.
They can leverage their monopoly position and only add just enough new features to excuse a new release and they'd be foolish to do otherwise.
It's no coincidence that the major new feature of Vista is a display model just like Apple's.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
But then, really, "Panther" and "Tiger" are just cool names according to Steve J's 12-year-old self... Easier to brand, with fur coat patterns and so on, but no more meaningful.
I don't know, I think the Preditor Cat theme is a powerful one. It is something that we can all envision the same (when a person says "Tiger" we see a similar image in our mind's eye. When someone says "Vista", it coudl be anything). Further, we have seen many of these animals in teh zoo as a kid on on Discovery Chanel. They are powerful. They are fast. They are to be reconed with. The Lion is the king of the beasts. (don't think Lion won't be an OS X version one day).
Longhorns are steak where I come from (Fort Worth, Texas) and Vistas are what you see on vacation. Neither inspires the confidence that it is virus free or will help me get any work done.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
Well it's better than "Windows Crack"
Frankly, they should have just went for the cross-promotion: "Windows 360"
think about it. A jump forward in OS effectiveness could happen, as it did with the switch from command line to 2D GUI. Creating a built in front-end for GUI that relies on 3D display is a logical way to create that "Oooooh!" factor when selling the product, and create sales for a new product, namely whatever display enhancement method MS chooses to standardize.
From TFA:
"the word 'vista' defined means "pleasing view.""
That sounds like people haven't figured out why that name was chosen. One of the main definitions of a vista is a view: a horizon.
Dunno, seems like good marketing and business sense to me.
"violence is the last resort of the incompetent"
-- violence is the last resort of the incompetent --
They can't call it Longwait anymore because they've ripped out all of the cool stuff... 3D desktop? only on a mac.... still
___Abuse of power comes as no surprise___
Stop saying: postponed launch of Longhorn, and start saying: postponed launch date of Vista
I have nothing to hide. So, why are you spying on me?
In A.D. 2101, boot was beginning.
The retailer I worked for last fall managed to have shelf/price tags installed in over 100 stores with the following description printed on them.
Shiatsu Massage The
rapist
Not a single call came in from the stores to point out the misprint and potential customer nightmare. The error was discovered by management during a Christmas tour, and then only because this particular item was being promoted in the upcoming holiday advertising.
We were constantly dealing with the 19 character limit on the first line of the description. The word Assorted often got cut to Ass on the first line. My favorite was
Lil Nerds Candy Ass
orted.
The Stone Age did not end because humans ran out of stones. - William McDonough
Now sue 'em!
There's no 'on' position on the Slacker switch!
Droz: Sandscrit. You're majoring in a 5,000-year-old dead language.
Guy: Yeah.
Droz: Latin, best I can do. Next!
Next Guy: Phys. Ed.
Droz: Phys. Ed. Okay, you're out of my room. Seriously. Get out.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4708177.stm
it seems that many features are going to be absent, and then added in later through service packs... which, knowing M$, will probably come out every 6 months... the only good thing is that it seems they're making security INTEGRATED into the system for once! FINALLY!
"Executives at the firm have said Vista, which is likely to run on high-specification computers only, has been designed with security as "part of the design, not a bolt-on"."
'Monad' Scripting Shell Unlikely to Debut in Longhorn
WinFS Axed From Longhorn Client and Server
Avalon faces axe as Microsoft dismembers Longhorn
Are we talking about the same operating system? And what does "native" even mean, in this context?
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
i was so sure they'd use my suggestion - "Monopolistic Pile of Shit".
pr0n - keeping monitor glass spotless since 1981.
Windows...
Virus magnet...
Interferes with your media files...
Sinister plots against all alternatives...
Trojans galore from drive-by websites...
And it's overpriced and undersupported!
thanks, but no thanks. "Mac. Just. Works."
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Is Vista pronounced veestuh or vihstuh?
Windows Fister - Guess what we're gonna do to you today.
LOL. Just great.
SCNR
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
They still have the same colors (of course) and general shape, but as opposed to the XP logo, where it's shaded normally, the logo for Vista as drawn as if there's a light shining on the center. Indeed, there's a circle of lightness focused directly on the center, and the outside is darker, as if there was a spotlight shining on it. This, of course, is exactly what Apple did a few months ago with the Tiger logo, because of Spotlight being its major feature...
Hmm. Copying Tiger's features and its logo?
does this mean I can't call it Wronghorn anymore?
3 things about computers: they're alive, they're self-aware, and they hate your guts.
they need to make you feel out of date, so it will probably be windows vista 2009 or whatever year it actually shows up
Somehow, calling a new Microsoft operating system "Chicken" seems oddly appropriate.
Nobody's gay for Mole-Man.
Considering microsoft tortured Lindows and forced them to change a name that only a pinhead would confuse with a piece of junk like windows, you would think they would have investigated the name first.
There is already a virtual operating system product called SVISTA. http://www.serenityvirtual.com/index.php Gee just one letter difference. Maybe its worth a few hundred million dollars to the company that has been using that name for a couple years now.
Maybe people should chip in to a legal fund so Serenity Systems can sue Microsoft? Truly would be poetic justice.
From one of the best reputed Brazilian dictionaries, "Novo Dicionário da Língua Portuguesa", by Aurélio Buarque de Holanda Ferreira, Editora Nova Fronteira, first edition, 14th printing:
"vista:
El Toro Poo Poo
It's one of the best I've seen and dead on target. Just ask anyone who's served in the military.
"[I]t is a wise man who admits the limits of his knowledge or skill, and that pretending either causes harm." --Terry Go
And I doubt it's a really wise marketing step to name OS this way. At least a small country in baltics, with 2.5 millions of inhabitants, will have fun of this new OS.
Calling it Microsoft OS X would be too obvious, now wouldn't it?
The future is in beta
Why is it that Microsoft thinks it can use the name VISTA ? It is already used by one of the more significant open source projects. It may be that not everyone knows about Vista.. http://www.vistasoftware.org/
I would say that the name is already in use.
Thanks,
GerardM
Large-system programming has over the past decade been such a tar pit, and many great and powerful beasts have thrashed violently in it. Most have emerged with running systems -- few have met goals, schedules, and budgets.
Can anyone read the above paragraph and not think of Microsoft Vista (nee Longhorn)?
It would appear that the words of Frederick P. Brooks, Jr. still apply, even 21 years after he wrote The Mystical Man-Month.